Tuesday, March 01, 2005 at 07:27:11 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Sent to me by a cuz in MN - FYI

From the McCurtain OK Daily Gazette, Jan 11, 2005

VALLIANT MAN IN CRITICAL CONDITION AFTER HIS THROAT IS CUT

A Valliant man found with his throat cut at his residence on Gardner early today is alive but in critical condition, authorities said.

Jackie Dean Womack, 50, was in critical condition at McCurtain Memorial Hospital. Emergency medical services personnel transported him to the hospital at about 6 a.m.

Police chief David Carrell, at is request, said the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation has taken over the investigation. Details are lacking as the man has been unable to talk to the authorities, and it is uncertian who inflicted the wound.


Thursday, March 03, 2005 at 14:57:49 (PST)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

One of the lessons we learn from history is to hopefully not repeat the mistakes that led up to wars and loss of information in the past. By not repeating those same errors, hopefully, we, as genealogist, will not repeat the same results. But every so often we need a reminder of what has happened in the past. We sometimes forget the essence of the past, the nuts and bolts of what happened, and how it happened, and how the effects of it can still be felt today. We have more tools at our disposal and are equiped with a better education than our ancestors were as a whole, this should make our generation the authors of good genealogies and not some erroneous information copied from some speculative source posted on the net.
These things have a tendency to multiply like fleas on a dog's back. Researchers of today are privy to a multitude of gedcoms to glean information from and many take advantage of borrowing and posting complete genealogies as their own without the work involved in citing the sources. The LDS, DAR and even our on Descendants of Thomas and Louvisa Rice Womack book has mistakes in them made by people like you and I.
Wars, fires, floods, lack of education and foresight makes our job a challenge that daunts us on a daily basis. I am reminded of the great tragedy of the Civil War where 622,000 of sombody's ancestors died and set brother against brother. Considering that a soldier probably had an average of four children, this war left two and a half million children fatherless and an untold number of families devastated at the loss of kin and property.
Adoptions and children being raised by relatives, widows remarrying and children being bound out didn't help any. We should as researchers of our genealogy be very cautious as to what we pass on as documented facts.
We should freely share our information, be it a small bit we discovered or helping someone with their line.
Speaking of wars, this site is just an example of what happens to the children. See Missing Identity http://www.jewishgen.org/missing-identity/
Jack


Friday, March 04, 2005 at 11:45:31 (PST)
Daisy Johnson
daisylk@ameritech.net

hi
if theres someway you can help me.just run across this page.throught i would give it a try.the last name davis frist name Rufus my uncle last seen i was about6yrs oldthey lived in PHILADELPHIA.COULD YOU EMAIL me where to start.thanks


Saturday, March 05, 2005 at 06:45:34 (PST)
J Gresham
jannifer_g@yahoo.com

I am trying to find information about my grandmother's family. She was from Carter County KY and her name was Lucille Jones. Her family is listed in the Grayson, Carter County Census 1900, 1910 and 1920. She married my grandfather Rev. Thomas P. Edwards of Estill County KY after 1920. She always told about being a cousin of Mattie Womack who married Andrew Slye (parents of Leonard (aka Roy Rogers).

JONES WILLIAM M W KY KY CARTER GRAYSON 1910

William 40 (born November 1868,also known as Willie)
Mollie 34 (born March 1876, maiden name was Everman and I think she
Mary, daughter
of Samuel and Mary Hord Everman
Lucile 15
Kennie 13
Bettie 10
Raymond 7
Ralf 4
Roland 1
Martha (mother) 74


Saturday, March 05, 2005 at 07:01:14 (PST)
J Gresham
jannifer_g@yahoo.com

I am trying to find information about my grandmother's family and a possible Womack connection. My grandmother was from Carter County KY and her name was Lucille Jones. She always told about being a cousin of Mattie Womack who married Andrew Slye (parents of Leonard, aka Roy Rogers. I am trying to identify whether my grandmother's grandmother was a Womack.

JONES WILLIAM M W KY KY CARTER GRAYSON 1910
William 40 (born November 1868,also known as Willie)
Mollie 34 (born March 1876, maiden name was Everman and I think she
might be Mary, daughter of Samuel and Mary (Hord) Everman
but I do not have conclusive proof)
Lucile 15 (my grandmother, married T.P. Edwards) Kennie 13 (married a ? Bently, ? McAllister and Vic Hardin)
Bettie 10 (married Tim Hannah, son of Albert and Ethel (Goble) Hannah)
Raymond 7 (never married)
Ralf 4 ("Ralph", married Edith Lewis)
Roland 1 (I think this is "Ceph", never married)

Martha (mother) 74 (was she a Womack??)


Sunday, March 06, 2005 at 11:14:18 (PST)
William Eugene Womack
Ghostrider420@direcway.com

I recently visited the Roy Rogers Museum, which was recently relocated from Apple Valley, Ca. to Branson, MO. It's a great museum. Many family photos are on display. I was surprised at the large number of Womack photos. Like me, Roy's mother's name was Martha Womack. If you're ever in Branson, a tour is sure worth the time.


Monday, March 07, 2005 at 22:47:07 (PST)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

Hello,

My Womacks are said to be decendant from Davie Crockett. David Crockett Womack comes up through out the line, but who knows? I haven't been able to find a link. My mother's cousin is said to have documentation, but she is old and far away and very tight fisted with stuff in her later years. Anyway, if anyone has ANY information on this line, please let me know! erindent@charter.net


Monday, March 07, 2005 at 23:25:41 (PST)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

Hi,

I have the brand auth. and brand image that was registered by William Jefferson Womack and by his son John Seaman Womack if anyone is in this line and interested in this, too.

Erin


Wednesday, March 09, 2005 at 00:56:34 (PST)
Erin Dent
erindent

From the Hawkins Funeral Home Records in Jack County Texas:

Womack, Thomas Marion
Male White
Married Bertha A. Barth in 1921
Born August 22, 1858 Texas
Died October 17, 1946 Jacksboro, Texas
Father W. L. Womack Mother
Oakwood Cemetery Jacksboro, Texas


AND:

Womack, Bertha Asbary
Female White Housewife
Married T. M. Womack in 1921
Born Feb 23, 1892 Parker County, Texas
Died August 21,1968 Mineral Wells, Texas
Father M. B. Barth Mother Lucinda Ensley
Oakwood Cemetery Jacksboro, Texas


Hope this is of help to all of you cousins!

Erin


Thursday, March 10, 2005 at 20:05:11 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Erin,

I saw two posts on Genforum.genealogy.com/Womack, which are of interest to most of the researchers on this web page (some folks here maintain large data bases of Womacks and collateral families). We are very much interested in the sons of Maj. Jacob Womack and Sarah Johnson. Here are the children of Jacob Womack by Patricia:

"131,26 Major Jacob and Mary Womack

1 Martha b 20 March 1758 d ca 1840 Benton Co Ala m Robert Bean b 3 May 1758
2 Sarah m ________ Lane (Son of Tidance Lane)
Patricia's note:(I am not sure if this is correct or if there us another Jacob lived on Little Limestone Creek Washington Co Tenn. Possible the father of the above or the above Major Jacob the father of Jacob on Little Limestone Creek or if they are the same person and married two or more times one wife being Sarah Johnson, dau of Joseph Johnson/Johnston of Lunenburg Co VA
3 Johnson
4 John
5 Jesse
6 David
All above the Arkansas early inhabitants
7 William ? Pendleton SC White Co Tenn. Jeremiah, Jonathan, and David of Grainger Co Tenn. And David and Johnson of Grainger, Wh Co Tenn. Also Jenkin and Jacob of early Arkansas 1820’s"

I've identified the William of Pendleton, SC (Jacob was in Pendleton Co., SC on the 1790 census) and White Co., TN and I'm adding this information because of the name "Crockett" being carried down the line. William named a son Crockett and his dau., Mary Jane Womack Robinson named her son William Crockett Robinson:

Note: William Womack died ca. 1846-1850 White Co., TN. His youngest child is three years old.

1850 White Co., TN 1850 11 Dist, roll 900 White Co., TN
Page 105A, House 1431
16 Womack Rachell 44 b. 1806 TN
17 Womack John F. 21 b. 1829 TN
18 Womack Mary Jane 18 b. 1832 TN m. George W. P. Robinson
19 Womack Susan 15 b. 1835 TN
20 Womack Benjamin 11 b. 1839 TN
21 Womack Cynthia 9 b. 1841 TN
22 Womack Lizanna 6 b. 1844 TN
23 Womack Crockett 3 b. 1857 TN

(Rachael Unknown Womack and children moved to Madison Co., AR ca. 1859. Johnson Womack died in Madison Co. ca. 1839)

1860 Marble Twp., Madison Co., AR p. 381
Rachel Womack, age 53, b. TN
Benjamin, age 20, b. TN
Cynthia, age 18 b. TN
Lizanna, age 15, b. TN
Crockett, age 13, b. TN

1860 Marble Twp., Madison Co., AR, b. 483
J.(John) F. Womack, age 30, b. 1829 TN
Mary Unknown, age 36, b. 1834 TN

1860 Marble Twp., Madison Co., AR p. 481 m. 8 Nov 1852 White Co., TN
George W. P. Robinson, age 40, b. 1820 TN, d. ca. 1862 ..buried Nard Cemetery, Carroll Co., AR
Mary (Mary Jane Womack), age 25, b. TN
William C. (Crockett), age 9, b. 1851, White Co., TN
Martha A., age 6, b. 1854 White Co., TN
Amanda, b. age 3, 1857 White Co., TN
Alexander Woodrow, b. 1860 Carroll Co., AR
and Arizona, b. 22 Apr 1862 Carroll Co., AR


March 5, 2005:
"I have Fannie Womack (my 3rd greataunt) married to Elijah David Weaver. Her father being Johnson or johnson Ashley Womak, mother unknown. Where does the Cherokee information come from? If Johnston was her father and her mother were Cherokee, then she would be only half. Anyone know of her mother then? Thanks.

Erin Dent"

Did Patricia indicate Johnson Womack was the father of Fannie Womack, who married Elijah David Weaver? This is just my opinion....I think Fannie Womack Weaver was the dau., of David Womack, who is most likely my Larkin Womack's father. Weaver researchers insist that her father was Larkin Womack. No one to date has been able to confirm with documentation of her father's name. This being the case, she named her son Larkin Weaver after her brother. My Larkin named a son David, probably for his father, named a son Jacob for his grandfather, named a son John for his uncle and named a son William for his uncle. In the "Basye Family In The United States", which I just purchased from Ebay, I found this: ".....In "Book E," at page 307, in the office of the Recorder of Deeds St. Louis Missouri, appears a deed dated and acknowledged October 27, 1815, recorded November 29, 1815, from Larkin Womack and Frances (also written elsewhere in the deed Fannie) Womack (late Frances Quick (F.13) to James Fugate, assigning all her dower interest in the estate of Jones Quick, deceased......". So my estimate of Larkin's marriage to Frances Basye Quick was pretty close. I'm guessing June of 1815. Their first son was born 15 Feb 1816.....but you know the first one can come any time, according to old wives' tales!

March 10, 2005
"David Womack, married to Elizabeth M Brisco, his father was Johnson Ashley Womack. I have that line back to the late 1500's. I can be contacted at
erindent@charter.net"

The family group sheet of Johnston Womack, wife Elizabeth submitted by Patricia to the Washington Association of Genealogists indicated Patricia thought Johnson was married to Elizabeth and she was puzzled by the age difference. But the children are David and Elizabeth Brisco's children. I think your David's name was probably David Johnson Womack or Johnson David Womack. This family group sheet can be found on LDS's IGI site

Re: your post of March 7, 2005 on this web page about your family's belief that your Womacks are related to Davy Crockett and the name David Crockett Womack.....this is certainly is possible. Davy Crockett was the son of John Wesley Crockett (son of David Crockett, Sr. and Elizabeth Hedge) and Rebecca Sullivan Hawkins. Major Jacob Womack was a committeeman on the Watauga Petition of 5 July 1776. David Crockett, Sr., and his son, William Crockett signed this petition. Davy was born in 1786 Limestone Cove, Washington Co., TN. This a note Patricia had in her research: "(I am not sure if this is correct or if there us another Jacob lived on Little Limestone Creek Washington Co Tenn. Possible the father of the above or the above Major Jacob the father of Jacob on Little Limestone Creek or if they are the same person and married two or more times one wife being Sarah Johnson, dau of Joseph Johnson/Johnston of Lunenburg Co VA)"

Is the David Crockett Womack a descendant of your David Womack or he an ancestor of your David Womack?

Beth


Friday, March 11, 2005 at 03:48:05 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Beth, et al

We know were two Jacob Womacks at Watauga - one one of the Commissioners, the other a signer - the only assumption we can make of this is that the signer was the son of the commissioner (Maj Jacob)... no real proof of course, strictly circumstantial, but you never know..........

I also see that the wife of Jacob is rearing an ugly head as Mary again - methinks this is where someone got the idea my Mary Wills Womack was the wife of Maj Jake, a cousin to my 4th great; and the real husband of Mary Wills -- Unfortunately the DAR has a problem with her being listed as the wife of the ole Maj....and by the way, all you people that have her as Mary Wills Cole, drop the Cole - her son David's Bible record shows her as WILLS....I have a transcript of it......Doesnt anyone think it would be rather weird for parents to name a child after the last name of the mothers former husband???

Her grandfather Josiah Whitlock did not name her in his will of Oct 1769; but did name a brother and sister or two - it mentioned her father Doctor Wills as deceased - looking at this, and the fact the census records indicate she was born between 1760 and 1770 (Kentucky indicates 1765-70); she would have been born after the will was written, her father died while she was still in the
womb, but sometime in 1769; and she had to have been born after Oct 1769-probably early 1770..then her mother, Mary Whitlock Wills, married John Cole in Aug 1772 (18 Aug on bond or certificate)..


Saturday, March 12, 2005 at 06:27:05 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ATTN: Sam and Roger have u two heard of The Valentine Papers if not u two might want to read them lots of info. about our Womacks in it. Information on the Womacks while in England I believe and some other important info. such as Womack orphans and such and their guardians. Will give yall info. on how to look at these records at my local library if yall need me to it will not be a problem to me just let me know.


Saturday, March 12, 2005 at 11:35:56 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Derrell
Thanks for you input - have had a copy of the pages that pertian to Womacks for some years now - on a disk somewhere in the great cavern of my lousy filing system.

What we really need, since we have beaten the VA bunch to death looking for an
immigrant ancestah, is access to the Brit records on the colonies - I dont think those got burned in a courthouse fire, etc -- It is quite obvious there was some reather painstaking records keeping of births, deaths, property, etc - so Ole King whats-his-name would know who, what and how much to tax...I doubt seriously that the availabe records there are cataloged - rather in loose files somewhere in a dingy basement under inches of dust...and hopefully not too damp and moldy!

I also believe that there are many church records that have yet to be made available to everyone - those hold some truths and fiction breakers methinks..

Unless someone has something in the bottom of an old trunk they havent looked at, we are at wits end on this side of the water -- all we can do is try to link up what we have back to those we know for sure were in early VA...AND, hope for a good break somewhere in our lifetime...

So, Derrell, mi amigo - keep on diggin like you have and you just may be the one to crack this wide open...


Saturday, March 12, 2005 at 13:01:26 (PST)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

The Valentine Papers are available online if you have the bells and whistles membership on Ancestry.

Ann must have seen parts of them because she quotes from the often.

I think that's where all the wife beating, pig and apple stealing and horse racing information comes from on the first brood.


Saturday, March 12, 2005 at 17:28:43 (PST)
pamela welborn
oakst2347@aol.com

I AM PAMELA WELBORN MY HUSDON WAS ALBERT RAY WELBORN HE DIE 2-29-2004 IN MENDENHALL MS. I AM LOOKING FOR JOHN AND VIOLA WELBORN THAT LIVE IN MT,OLIVE MS.IN 1920.IF ANY ONE CAN HELP ME PLEASE DO SO THANK YOU


Saturday, March 12, 2005 at 17:45:14 (PST)
PAMELA WELBORN
OAKST2347!AOL.COM

I AM PAMELA WELBORN I AM LOOKING FOR WELBORN THAT LIVED IN MT.OLIVE MS. IN 1900


Sunday, March 13, 2005 at 04:43:36 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ATTN: Pamela I fount these records Mount Olive is in Covington County Mississippi

This is what I found Pamela hope it helps

1910 Census MS/Covington Co./5-Bt/District 9
Wilborn John 26yrs Married 8yrs MS---MS---MS
Viola 29yrs Married 8yrs MS---MS---MS
Troy 7yrs MS---MS---MS

1920 Census MS/Covington Co./Oakohay/ District 9
Welbourne J W 37yrs MS---MS---MS Farmer
V V 41yrs MS---MS---MS
Troy 16yrs MS---MS---MS
Curtis 9yrs MS---MS---MS
Homer 4yrs? MS---MS---MS
Haword 4yrs MS---MS---MS


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Info Found at Familysearch.org

Husband
JOHN W. WELBORN Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 1900 , Smith, Mississippi
Death: 07 MAY 1958
Burial:





--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Wife
VIOLA V. PRINCE Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 1900 , Smith, Mississippi
Death: 03 JAN 1960
Burial:



Sunday, March 13, 2005 at 10:52:00 (PST)
Audrey Horner
AudrHorn8@aol.com

Hello Sam and All,
Sam,I sent you an e-mail a month or so ago, you didn't respond, so I guess I'll post my info here for all. A year or so ago, I wrote you requesting info on my husband's Womack line, you were kind enough to respond and I was thrilled. We did have a difference of opinion when it came to whether or not Mary Womack born July 10, 1903 in Cave Springs, Missouri was a daughter of Archer Preston Womack and Nora Erwin Compton, as you correctly stated that there was no proof. After conversing with older family members, they told me that Mary's 'real' name was Valley Lockey Womack, a name she hated, when Valley turned 18, she just up and changed it to Mary and was forever known by that name. No legal paperwork involved, just did it. I have had many distractioons from genealogy this year, including the passing away of my Mother so I haven't been as diligent as I use to be, however, I have started back up and did run across a census page with Valley listed on it, once again, not iron clad proof, as most researchers demand, but all I got and probably all I ever will have!! The census page, if you want to look at it yourself for verification purposes:
1910 Missouri Census, Walnut Grove Township, Greene County, page 264A, Ancestry Image #34, Line 36, Household #354, Arch Preston-Head, Line 40, listed as his daughter is Valy, age 7. This is my husband's grandmother, also known as Mary Womack. I also wanted to make sure you had an updated e-mail address for me, which is AudrHorn8@aol.com, sorry, I was not aware that you still had my old one. Thank you, Audrey Horner


Sunday, March 13, 2005 at 12:03:49 (PST)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net



Texas 1920 Census Alphabetical by County

TEXAS WOMACKS






ANGELINA COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, Henry Y KLUTTS, L V Miss 27 Nov 1870
WOMMACK, Lotty BROWN, Eli 10 May 1866


BAYLOR COUNTY

Vera Cemetery near Seymour TX
Womack, Baby (no further information)


BOSQUE COUNTY

Land Records
Womack, A P Womack, A P 1043

Marriages
WOMACK, A V ALSUP, Armintie 08 Apr 1896
WOMACK, Abbie E NEW, F D 09 Nov 1892
WOMACK, C L BAREFIELD, Emmie 09 Jan 1893
WOMACK, Calvin MYERS, Etta 07 Jan 1890
WOMACK, Cora NEW, Robert 25 Jul 1894
WOMACK, D W MYERS, Rachel Elizabeth 28 Jun 1892
WOMACK, E S MYERS, S Lee 24 Mar 1889
WOMACK, Elizabeth Jane JOHNSTON, C A 21 Feb 1894
WOMACK, Etta STRINGER, G L 06 Oct 1892
WOMACK, F W WOMACK, Rachel Mrs 20 Aug 1895
WOMACK, Florence STRETCH, W M 10 Mar 1881
WOMACK, J P CRUCE, Georgia 15 Jul 1884
WOMACK, John A WALLS, E J Miss 17 Sep 1879
WOMACK, Julia A WILDER, D E 30 Nov 1876
WOMACK, L R CHILDRESS, Nealie 24 Dec 1885
WOMACK, M A Miss ROY, Richard D 06 Oct 1884
WOMACK, M J Miss GARY, Isaac C 26 May 1885
WOMACK, Mary A HERNDON, J L 28 Dec 1882
WOMACK, Mildred P MORRIS, F M 21 May 1885
WOMACK, Mintie LIGON, George W 20 Nov 1883
WOMACK, Ollie May LEWIS, Chas A 17 Oct 1891
WOMACK, R T GLASS, Annie 20 Dec 1893
WOMACK, Rhoda ARCHER, Earl 21 Jun 1888
WOMACK, S F Miss WELCH, Wm J 07 Nov 1877
WOMACK, S H Miss BAXTER, W B 02 Sep 1886
WOMACK, Saphronia WELCH, T R 15 Jul 1884
WOMACK, Sarah BELCHER, James L 15 Dec 1892
WOMACK, T S Miss PINKERTON, J T 22 Apr 1894
WOMACK, W M GOODALL, Janie 01 Jan 1885


BOWIE COUNTY

old settlers of Texarkana, prior to 1888

Womack, J. W.



CALDWELL COUNTY

Marriages
BKS C-D Page 363
Womack, H W McCarty, J M Jul 27 1872


Jeffrey Cemetery
Womack, Francis Frank 9 Mar 1900 24 May 1958
Womack, Lura Pearl . . . . .1912 1975


CHEROKEE COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, Hattie MCKINNEY, R A 18 Sep 1892





CHILDRESS COUNTY

Land Rcords
W&NW RR CO H Womack, R L 486 1103


COLLIN COUNTY

1850 Census Index
Wormack 13A



CORYELL COUNTY

TAX ROLL A thru H, 1884

NAME Abstract # SURVEY ACRES Other Taxables
Bishop,L.J. 1063 L.Womack 500 C,H,c,s
Wolf, Mrs. M. A. 1063 L.Womack 150
Grimes, J. A. 1063 L.Wommack 630


Birth/WWI Registrations
Warren, J J Womack, T 58 1800
Womack, Larkin Womack, L 1063




COTTLE COUNTY

Land Records
BBB&C RR CO Womack, A 2 1418
Was also shown as Wommack A



CRANE COUNTY

Land Records
Womack, P V Womack, P V 40 987


CROSBY COUNTY

Lorenzo Cemetery
Womack, Sarah C. 04/20/1851 07/26/1940


DALLAM COUNTY

WWI Draft/Birth Information
Name DOB Race POB Location of Reg
Womack, Mal K. 6 Sep 1884 W Dallam TX


DALLAS COUNTY

Marriages
WARNOCK, Thos E MAPLES, Margaret E 19 Dec 1878
Womack J. H. McQueen Agnes A. 18-Feb-1891
Wilmans Bertie Womack C. C. 23-Dec-1888 Martinier, J.
Bennett C. G. Womack Mrs. J. P. 27-May-1898 Fuller, D. F. M. G.
Jordan D. A. Wamack Sue 04-Jan-1891 Mothershed, W. P.
Nance J. P. Wamack Miss Ida 10-Dec-1890 Bramblitt, E. C.


Smith Cemetery, Irving
Womack, John R., 24 Jul 1881 29 Sep 1939

Sowers Cemetery
WOMACK, Abe M 28 Mar 1875 12 Dec 1958


DAWSON COUNTY

WWI Draft/Birth REgistration
Name DOB Race POB Location of Reg
Womack, William Lafayette 29 Mar 1899 W Dawson
Womack, William Wallace 25 Feb 1874 W Dawson

Land Records
G RR CO 35 Womack, T6S 82 945


DEAF SMITH COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, John L AICHLMAYER, Margaret Rita 08 Feb 1953
WOMACK, Mac BAKER, Sloan 20 Sep 1919
WOMACK, W B RUNTON, Bessie May 02 Nov 1924

Draft Registrations WWI
Name DOB Race Birth other Info Where Registered
Bowers, Robert Womack 18 Nov 1896 W Nocona TX Deaf Smith TX
Womack, Richard Homer 29 Feb 1876 W Deaf Smith TX


DENTON COUNTY

Pilot Point Community Cemetery
NAME ADDITION SQUARE BLOCK LOT GRAVE #
Mayfield, Florine Womack Masonic 5 5 8 6
Pederson, Thomas Womack Yarbrough 11 4 6 4


DICKENS COUNTY

Spur Memorial Cemetery
Name Maiden Name Obit Section/block/lot Birth/Death dates Owner of Lot
Robinson Mattie Ada Womack Obit Old 21 7 06-28-1873 07-26-1944
P.T.B.Robinson Robinson, Mattie Ada Womack


Dickens Cemetery -
Womack, Randy Location: N-08-37, No dates given


EASTLAND COUNTY

Land Records
Wormack, Joseph H Womack, J 653
Womack, D G Womack, D 1621
ET RR CO Womack, M 34 1214



EL PASO COUNTY

Land Records
Stewart, CD Womack, W O 318 9877



ELLIS COUNTY

Land Records
SIMON WARMACK S. WARMACK 1175

Marriages
WOMACK, W C SEGRAVES, Sarah E 06 Sep 1885


ERATH COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, D L STRACENER, Minnie 01 Dec 1895
WOMACK, Florence ROGERS, T P 08 Jul 1888
WOMACK, J A THOMPSON, Miss Laura (I 264) Book/Page?


FANNIN COUNTY

Marriages

WOMACK, J L MCDONALD, Mary 27 Jan 1869
WOMMACK, Martha M MCDONALD, John 06 Mar 1856


Cemeteries

Oakhill Cemetery
Womack, Elizabeth Ann Sep 29, 1829 Mar 25, 1900 w/o W B Womack
Womack, Estella Dec 09, 1888 Aug 03, 1897 d/o JA and VT Womack
Womack, Mary Marshall Jun 10, 1858 Jan 13, 1937 w/o W B Womack
Womack, Oliver A Jan 10, 1891 Aug 01, 1892 s/o AJ and VT Womack
Womack, R M May 17, 1876 May 15, 1948
Womack, W B Dec 28, 1900 Nov 30, 1952
Womack, W B Aug 29, 1829 Jun 01, 1907 h/o Mary Marhsall
and Elizabeth

Doss, Sears or Lindsey Springs Cemetery
Womack, Eliza Maybell 14 Feb.1876 07 Nov.1877 dau. of J.H.& M.R.Womack
Womack, Infant 15 Nov1885 15 Nov 1885 of J.H.& M.R.Womack
Womack, M.R. 03 Oct.1851 28 Sep 1888

Lindsey Cemetery near Randolph
Allen, Infant of W.& L.C.Allen 07 Feb.1884 14 Feb.1884 next to Minnie Womack
Womack, Minnie E. wife of W.J. 16 Sept.1867 10 Oct.1884 next to Inf.Allen

S E Blanton Cemetery
Womack, A Dec 25, 1987 Nov 30, 1897

Land Records
Womack, William Wommack, W 1155
Moore, J B Womack, T 1 1458
UL 2 Womack, W L 2 1219


FAYETTE COUNTY

1850 Census Index
WORMACK 204B



FLOYD COUNTY

Land Records
AB&M Womack, A 46 2340
AB&M Womack, W 46 2415
AB&M Womack, W 46 2585
AB&M Womack, W 46 2414


FOARD COUNTY

Land Records
H&TC RR Co A M Womack 450 1275
H&TC RR Co A M Womack 460 1056



GLASSCOCK COUNTY

WWI Draft/Birth Information
Name DOB Race POB Locationof Reg
Womack, Cal Sugg 15 Dec 1887 W Brownwood TX Glasscock


GONZALES COUNTY

Harwood Masonic Cemetery
Perkins, Elizabeth Womack



GRAYSON COUNTY

Fairview Cemetery
Womack Hilliary W Sep 10, 1912 Mar 03, 1985 Wed Leona Huff Mar 02, 1928
Womack, JOhn F 1865 1944 S/W Laura B Womack
Womack, Laura B 1866 1949 S/W John F Womack
Womack, Leone Huff Jan 20, 1917 Jun 26, 1990 Wed Hilliary W Womack
Womack, Walter Francis 1889 1917 Pvt US Army WWI

Gordonville Cemetery
Womack Clark 1878 1957
Womack Grace 1883 1962
Womack George Turner 07-19-1913 02-12-1996 (Buster) (Cpl Army WW II)
m. 11-21-1931 Lurlene Hopkins
Womack Elmer Lee 10-24-1916 07-07-1995 m. 09-26-1934 Marvis Godwin
(PFC Army WW II)
Womack Willie C. 10-23-1905 06-04-1987 m. 08-11-1925 Ruby M.
Womack Albert H. 11-11-1911 01-04-1976 ( PFC Army WW II )
Womack Julia Joe 12-02-1918
Womack baby 08-21-1914
Womack Thomas L. 01-18-1914 12-25-1991
Womack Vera 07-08-1915 06-02-1995

Preston Bend Cemetery
Carender, James Thomas, Jun 02, 1867 Jan 07, 1944, m. Sep 21, 1894
Carender, Mary Ann Womack, Jun 10, 1879 Jun 19, 1916, wife of James T Carender

City Cemetery, Whitewright
Womack, Edna Ray ---------- May 26, 1935

Sadler Cemetery, Sadler
O'Neal, Lula Womack Sep 08, 1868 Oct 24, 1923
O'Neal, E R Feb 12, 1893 Mar 18, 1893 S/O W B & M L O'Neal
(child poss hers? there is no other O'Neal listed)
Wommack, J W Sep 28,1833 Jan 30,1884
Wommack, Mary C Oct 18,1835 Oct27,1923
Wommack, Nancy SSep15,1800 Mar15,1877

Oakwood Cemetery - Denison TX
Womack, Effie Hayden Jan 21, 1895 Sep 08, 1984


GRIMES COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, A LAWRENCE, Adaline 04 Jul 1853
WOMACK, Henrietta M MONTGOMERY, J M 04 Jun 1850
WOMACK, Mary F GREEN, John H 01 Mar 1858
WOMACK, Matilda S M DAVIS, Benjamin F 23 Aug 1853

1850 CENSUS INDEX
WAMACK 731A-774A



GONZALES COUNTY

Harwood Masonic Cemetery
Perkins, Elizabeth Womack

Mansfield Cemetery
Hall, Mollie Lois (Womack), 14 Oct 1894, No Date


HALE COUNTY

Land Records
EL&RR RR CO A3 Womack, A 42 2129


HARRISON COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, Franklin M MADDUX, Nancy E 07 Sep 1853
WOMACK, Jacob LOVEL, Lucy 04 Jul 1841
WOMACK, John WOODLEY, Amanda 30 Jan 1856
WOMACK, Louisiana ELLIOTT, W W 12 May 1844
WOMACK, Mary A HILL, William T 31 Jul 1853
WOMACK, Matilda GREER, M D 05 Feb 1841
WOMACK, Orville J MADDUX, Rachel B 29 Nov 1853

Land Records
Womack, Larkin Womack, L 735
Wornick, Jacob Wornick, J 733
Womack, Larkin Womack, L 734


HEMPHILL COUNTY

WWI Draft/Birth Information
Name DOB Race POB Location of Reg
Uzzell, Minter Womack 28 May 1874 W Hemphill Co


HOPKINS COUNTY

Marriages
Womack, ALferd Reppond, Willie 20 Apr 1918
Womack, G. A. Hinkle, Hazel 23 Dec 1937
Womack, G. P. Dawson, Leora 22 Dec 1900


HOUSTON COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, F M Miss GREGG, A M 26 Dec 1887
WOMACK, J B GLENN, Addie 14 Sep 1887


HUNT COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, C B PATILLO, Mary Ida 10 Feb 1889



JACINTO COUNTY

Land REcords
Womack, Morris K Womack, M K 486,487,488
Womack, Morris K Womack, M K 489,490,491
Womack, Morris K Fraser, W B, 492
Womack, M L JR Womack, M L 423
Womack, F J Womack, F 167 480


JACK COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, E J BOATMAN, R G 29 Jun 1884
WOMACK, I C MCDONALD, D B 29 Jun 1889
WOMACK, I C BEEBE, Prudie 11 Dec 1895
WOMACK, J S RAINS, M J 14 Mar 1886
WOMACK, Margaret J LANGSTON, H S 01 May 1877
WOMACK, T M BRISCO, C J 10 Feb 1885
WOMACK, W J MCDONALD, Rebecca J 03 Jul 1889

Land Records
SP RR CO Womack, T 2 2341
Womack, W J Wommack, W 1199
Womack, W J Womack, W 912
Buckner, George Womack, T 1500


JOHNSON COUNTY

Land Records
Womack, AM Womack, A 893


JONES COUNTY

Land Records
SP RR CO Womack, A G 16 1208
SP RR CO Womack, A S 16


LAMAR COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, Geo M PEARCY, Mary F 14 Aug 1872
WOMACK, Jas CARLEY, Winney 17 Jul 1872
WOMACK, Maggie WALKER, Jno 08 Nov 1873
WOMACK, Mary E POSS, E H 07 Dec 1870
WOMACK, Mary L WEAVER, J C 14 Oct 1874
WOMACK, Virginia E HENRY, James A 17 Dec 1869
WOMACK, Wm H CLACK, Julia 06 Jan 1863


LAMPASAS COUNTY

Oak Hill Cemetery
Womack, Mary Agnes, 1904 - 1936




LEE COUNTY

1880 Census

50 22 329 330 Womack L A W M 31 . . . 1 . . . Farming . . Ala Ala Ala .
50 23 329 330 Womack Martha M W F 28 . Wife . 1 . . . Keeping House . . Geo Geo Geo .
50 24 329 330 Womack Elizabeth W F 5 . Dau . . . . . . . . Ala Ala Geo .
50 25 329 330 Womack William W M 3 . Son . . . . . . . . Tex Ala Geo

50 33 332 333 Womack Julius W M 25 . . . 1 . . . Farmer . . Ala Ala Ala .
50 34 332 333 Womack Nancy A W F 26 . . . 1 . . . Keeping House . . Geo Geo Geo .
50 35 332 333 Womack Hety W F 4 . . . . . . . . . . Tex . . .
50 36 332 333 Womack Henry F W M 1 . . . . . . . . . . Tex . . .


LIMESTONE COUNTY

Coolidge Cemetery
Adams Willie Womack 10/22/1883 09/15/1977
Womack D. M. 06/10/1859 07/11/1932
Womack Dealy 03/14/1866 01/29/1931


LUBBOCK COUNTY

1900 Census
273B 30 0 0 159 160 Womack Charles H. Laborer W M Aug 1854 45 S . . . MS GA MS



LYNN COUNTY

Land Records
EL&RR RR CO Womack, L 489 1045


MITCHELL COUNTY

Land Records
H&TC RR CO Womack, G 22 1569
T&P RR CO Womack, T1G 4 1491
T&P RR CO Womack, T1N 4 1570
T&P RR CO Womack, T1G 10 1639
(these are as listed, must be some kind of code after last name)


MONTAGUE COUNTY

Land Records
Womack, Jesse Womack, J 853


MONTGOMERY COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, Aurelia COTHRAN, E W 27 Sep 1842
WOMACK, F A O JEFFRIES, W C 10 Dec 1849
WOMACK, Mary Margaret ANDERSON, Dr Caleb L 24 Jun 1851
WOMAK, Jesse BEASLEY, Eugenia 11 Jul 1850


Land Records
Bruce , C G Womack (no name/initials given) 729
Womack, M L Jr Womack M 54 727
Womack, M L Jr Womack M 52 730
Bruce, C G Womack, M 08 728
Womack, M L Jr Womack, M 61 735
Womack, K L Jr Womack, M 51 726


MORRIS COUNTY

Land Records
Womack, William B Womack, W 316



NACOGDOCHES COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, R L BULLOCK, Sarah H 08 May 1887


NEWTON COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, John C THOMPSON, Nancy H 16 Mar 1852
WOMACK, Nancy H COLVILLE, John P 20 May 1855


ORANGE COUNTY

Marriages
Womack, A. F. Bradford, Mrs. A. A. 13 Feb 1902
WOMACK, M M Miss HAYNES, S P 18 Mar 1880
WOMACK, Wm B DAY, Amanda A 30 Aug 1880
Davis, Jesse Womack, Miss Hazel 29 Aug 1918
Keats, J. F. Womack, Mrs. Alpha 07 Apr 1917


Birth Information
Name DOB Register Parents
Womack, Jack Garnett 19 Oct 1930 vol 3 p 202 John Garnett & Delma Letney


PANOLA COUNTY

Waldrop Cemetery
WARMACK WILLIAM 00-00-1847 00-00-1877

Land Records
Womack, Larkin Womack, L 270 706
Wornick, Jacob Wornick, J 1028
Womack, John Womack, J 705
Womack, John Womack, J 894
Womack, John Womack, J 701
Womack, John Womack, J 703
Womack, John Womack, J 841
Womack, John Womack, J 702


1850 Census - Microfilm # 432-913
Index only
LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. BORN
6 389 389 Womack Julius 21 M farmer AL
13 399 399 Womack Francis 53 F W widow(sic)MO
14 399 399 Womack John 36 M W farmer MO
15 399 399 Womack Lucy Ann 27 F W MO
16 399 399 Womack Jacob 26 M W farmer MO
17 399 399 Womack Newton 24 M W farmer MO
18 399 399 Womack Larkin 21 M W farmer MO
19 399 399 Womack James 18 M W farmer MO
20 399 399 Womack Wm. 16 M W AR
21 399 399 Womack Panola 14 F W TX

23 179 179 Womack Jacob 54 M W Farmer MO
24 179 179 Womack Lucy 34 F W Housekeeper AL
25 179 179 Womack Fredonia 17 F W Housekeeper TX
26 179 179 Womack Zenora 14 F W TX
27 179 179 Womack Lavilla 12 F W TX
28 179 179 Womack Elmira 10 F W TX
29 179 179 Womack Levinia 07 F W TX
30 179 179 Womack Jeremiah 04 M W TX


1860 CENSUS INDEX

27 28 Womack Elmira 10 TX
27 25 Womack Fredonia 17 TX
27 23 Womack Jacob 54 MO
27 30 Womack Jeremiah 4 TX
27 27 Womack Lavilla 12 TX
27 29 Womack Levinia 7 TX
27 24 Womack Lucy 34 AL
27 26 Womack Zenora 14 TX
21 5 Wormack James 24 TN



1850 SLAVE SCHEDULE
See Tx Afro-American Page


PARKER COUNTY

Land Records
Womack, Thomas J Wormack, T 1632
Womack, William Womack, W 1645


PECOS COUNTY

Land Records
H&GN RR CO 12 Womack, L A 12


POLK COUNTY

Land Records
Womack, Frank Womack, F 723
Womack, Mark S Womack, M 83


REAGAN COUNTY

Land Records
T&P RR CO 36 Womack, T5M L 46 967


RED RIVER COUNTY

Land Records
Harrington, E M Womack, T 197 1615

Marriages
WOMACK, Fannie HORNE, T W 08 Jul 1869


ROCKWALL COUNTY

Marriages
WOMMACK, Frances B REGISTER, A G 21 Jun 1887


RUSK COUNTY

Land Records
Womack, John Womack, J


SAN AUGUSTINE CO

1850 CENSUS
08 205 205 Womack John C. 26 M Physician Ala
09 205 205 Womack Charlotte 28 F Ala
10 205 205 Womack Frances 05 F Mi (Probably should be MS)
11 205 205 Womack Mary 03 F Texas
12 205 205 Womack Charlotte 02 F La

Obits
11-29-1942 Wilkes McCallum dies. Survivors are daughters: Mrs. LilaCompton,
Mrs. Reta Womack; Mrs. Lila Wiseman, Mrs. Addie Bell Williams.; sons : Clive,
H.A. and David?; father :John N. ; 3 brothers: Vick,Tommy andMarion; 2 sisters:
Mrs. Walter Cooper and Mrs Virgil Ramsey.


SAN SABA COUNTY

Land Records
REUBEN WORMACK R. WARMACK 23 1338

SCURRY COUNTY

Land Records
H&TC RR CO 97 Womack, B F 252 2226


SCHLEICHER COUNTY

WWI Draft/Birth Information
Name DOB Race POB Location of Reg
Womack, Clarence Abram 08 Sep 1882 W Schleicher
Womack, Clifford Thomas 29 Dec 1888 W Texas Schleicher




SHACKELFORD COUNTY

Land Records
LAL Womack, A M 26 1225


SHELBY COUNTY

Cemetery
Herbert C. Womack May 31, 1905 Aug. 5, 1996 Married
Ella Avis Womack Oct. 13, 1906 July 21, 1990 Feb. 4, 1933


SMITH COUNTY

Liberty Hill Cemetery
Womack, Dorothy S. - 1 Jan 1890 19 July 1976 Mother


STERLING COUNTY

WWI Draft/Birth Information
Name DOB Race POB Location of Reg
Harrison, John Womack 30 Dec 1892 W Marshall TX Sterling


TARRANT COUNTY

Johnson Station Cemetery
Womack, Mary A., nee Mitchell, Feb. 27, 1822 - Oct. 25, 1893

Mansfield Cemetery
Hall, Mollie Lois (Womack), 14 Oct 1894, No Date


TRINITY COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, Mary J BRASHEAR, Alford 09 Feb 1882

Land Records
Womack, W N Womack, W N 17911
Womack, Abraham J Womack, A J 652
Womack, David Womack, D 651
Womack, W N Womack, W 16 937
Womack Womack, A J 666


WALKER COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, Louis STEWART, Zella 16 Jul 1899
WOMACK, M E WATKINS, J P 26 Jul 1903


WASHINGTON COUNTY

Marriages
Womack K. Dement Nannie Oct/18/1909 16 291 582
Wormack J. J. Sapp W. A. May/04/1875 05 162 317


WISE COUNTY

Marriages
WOMACK, J A MEEKS, Lizzie 28 Dec 1894
WOMACK, J L ROGERS, Annie 05 Mar 1891
WOMACK, Sophronia B MCNERLY, Joseph 01 Dec 1881


YOUNG COUNTY

Probates--1920-1959, Vol II

Womack, E.R. 172
Womack, J.R. 178
Womack, Jackie Wright 107
Womack, Mary E. 23
Womack, Noble 3
Womack, Noble A. 24

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MISCELLANEOUS




TEXAS CONFEDERATE PENSION APPLICATIONS

Womack, A. J. 28700
Claimant: Womack, A. J.
Pension Number: 28700
County: Grayson
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Womack, Abram Richmond 50659
Claimant: Womack, Abram Richmond
Pension Number: 50659
County: Trinity
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Womack, Adiline F. 15860
Claimant: Womack, Adiline F.
Pension Number: 15860
County: Lamar

Husband: Daniel
Pension Number:
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Womack, Andrew Jackson 24148
Claimant: Womack, Andrew Jackson
Pension Number: 24148
County: Hardeman
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Womack, C. C. (Mrs) 18668
Claimant: Womack, C. C. (Mrs)
Pension Number: 18668
County: Grimes

Husband: Mark Sanders
Pension Number:
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Womack, Cyrena 36839
Claimant: Womack, Cyrena
Pension Number: 36839
County: Dallas

Husband: John C.
Pension Number:
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Womack, Daniel Brown 34150
Claimant: Womack, Daniel Brown
Pension Number: 34150
County: Dallas
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Womack, David G. 15869
Claimant: Womack, David G.
Pension Number: 15869
County: Lampasas
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Womack, E. C. rej
Claimant: Womack, E. C.
Pension Number: Application Rejected
County: Brown
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Womack, E. W. rej
Claimant: Womack, E. W.
Pension Number: Application Rejected
County: Bosque
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Womack, Eliza Jane 51069
Claimant: Womack, Eliza Jane
Pension Number: 51069
County: Hardeman

Husband: Andrew Jackson
Pension Number: 24148
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Womack, Eudora F. 29648
Claimant: Womack, Eudora F.
Pension Number: 29648
County: Brazoria

Husband: Thomas A.
Pension Number:
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Womack, Fannie 35071
Claimant: Womack, Fannie
Pension Number: 35071
County: Bowie

Husband: Jordon Martin (wommack)
Pension Number: 17365
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Womack, Frank Coleman 07874
Claimant: Womack, Frank Coleman
Pension Number: 07874
County: Hardin
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Womack, G. M. 36955
Claimant: Womack, G. M.
Pension Number: 36955
County: Red River
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Womack, Georgia Ann Mahala 41273
Claimant: Womack, Georgia Ann Mahala
Pension Number: 41273
County: Trinity

Husband: Henry H.
Pension Number: 18464
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Womack, Henry H. 18464
Claimant: Womack, Henry H.
Pension Number: 18464
County: Trinity
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Womack, J. B. 12248
Claimant: Womack, J. B.
Pension Number: 12248
County: Anderson
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Womack, J. K. (Mrs) 37774
Claimant: Womack, J. K. (Mrs)
Pension Number: 37774
County: Hill

Husband: James K.
Pension Number: 12416
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Womack, James K. 12416
Claimant: Womack, James K.
Pension Number: 12416
County: Hill
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Womack, John Albert rej
Claimant: Womack, John Albert
Pension Number: Application Rejected
County: Freestone
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Womack, John H. 24203
Claimant: Womack, John H.
Pension Number: 24203
County: Wilson
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Womack, John Watts (Mrs) 35175
Claimant: Womack, John Watts (Mrs)
Pension Number: 35175
County: Atascosa

Husband: John Watts
Pension Number: 34392
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Womack, John Watts 34392
Claimant: Womack, John Watts
Pension Number: 34392
County: Bexar
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Womack, L. A. (Mrs) 42159
Claimant: Womack, L. A. (Mrs)
Pension Number: 42159
County: Trinity

Husband: William Henry
Pension Number: 18463
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Womack, Lucy C. 06562
Claimant: Womack, Lucy C.
Pension Number: 06562
County: Houston

Husband: Jacob
Pension Number:
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Womack, Lucy O. 17248
Claimant: Womack, Lucy O.
Pension Number: 17248
County: Mclennan

Husband: William David
Pension Number: 08408
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Womack, Luella L. 40219
Claimant: Womack, Luella L.
Pension Number: 40219
County: Parker

Husband: Berges Riley
Pension Number:
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Womack, M. J. (Mrs) 19148
Claimant: Womack, M. J. (Mrs)
Pension Number: 19148
County: Morris

Husband: Josiah Duncan
Pension Number:
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Womack, M. S. 09824
Claimant: Womack, M. S.
Pension Number: 09824
County: Grimes
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Womack, Martha K. 49556
Claimant: Womack, Martha K.
Pension Number: 49556
County: Foard

Husband: R. P.
Pension Number: 36631
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Womack, Mary E. 45291
Claimant: Womack, Mary E.
Pension Number: 45291
County: Red River

Husband: G. M.
Pension Number: 36955
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Womack, Mary 27388
Claimant: Womack, Mary
Pension Number: 27388
County: Bosque

Husband: Thomas Jefferson
Pension Number:
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Womack, Mary 33778
Claimant: Womack, Mary
Pension Number: 33778
County: Mills

Husband: David Green
Pension Number:
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Womack, Matilda 51362
Claimant: Womack, Matilda
Pension Number: 51362
County: Falls

Husband: Daniel, Jr.
Pension Number:
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Womack, Nannie rej
Claimant: Womack, Nannie
Pension Number: Application Rejected
County: Unknown

Application is missing, but other records
indicate application was made
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Womack, R. P. 36631
Claimant: Womack, R. P.
Pension Number: 36631
County: Foard
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Womack, Richard H. 46493
Claimant: Womack, Richard H.
Pension Number: 46493
County: Tom Green
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Womack, S. H. 15762
Claimant: Womack, S. H.
Pension Number: 15762
County: Jasper
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Womack, Sarah A. 05449
Claimant: Womack, Sarah A.
Pension Number: 05449
County: Collin

Husband: William E.
Pension Number:
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Womack, Sarah E. 38146
Claimant: Womack, Sarah E.
Pension Number: 38146
County: Bosque

Husband: Elbert Washington
Pension Number:
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Womack, Sarah 02706
Claimant: Womack, Sarah
Pension Number: 02706
County: Limestone

Husband: Abner J.
Pension Number:
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Womack, Susan E. 29325
Claimant: Womack, Susan E.
Pension Number: 29325
County: Hardin

Husband: Frank Coleman
Pension Number: 07874
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Womack, Susan 50847
Claimant: Womack, Susan
Pension Number: 50847
County: Wichita

Husband: James Andrew
Pension Number:
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Womack, William David 08408
Claimant: Womack, William David
Pension Number: 08408
County: Mclennan

Application is missing, but other
records indicate application was made
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Womack, William Henry 18463
Claimant: Womack, William Henry
Pension Number: 18463
County: Trinity
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Wommack, Catherine 11840
Claimant: Wommack, Catherine
Pension Number: 11840
County: Cass

Husband: Robert A.
Pension Number:
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Wommack, James William (Mrs) rej
Claimant: Wommack, James William (Mrs)
Pension Number: Application Rejected
County: Cass

Husband: James William
Pension Number:
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Wommack, Jordon Martin (Womack) 17365
Claimant: Wommack, Jordon Martin (Womack)
Pension Number: 17365
County: Bowie
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Wommack, S. A. (Mrs) 25770
Claimant: Wommack, S. A. (Mrs)
Pension Number: 25770
County: Cass

Husband: Elija John
Pension Number:
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Wommack, Virginia L. 24801
Claimant: Wommack, Virginia L.
Pension Number: 24801
County: Waller

Husband: Elijah Bransford
Pension Number:
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Warmack, Nanny 47288
Claimant: Warmack, Nanny
Pension Number: 47288
County: Grayson

Husband: John
Pension Number:
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Wormack, M. J. (Mrs) rej
Claimant: Wormack, M. J. (Mrs)
Pension Number: Application Rejected
County: Morris

Husband: Josiah Duncan
Pension Number:
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WWI AND KOREAN WAR MONUMENT

BOWIE COUNTY
J. N. Buddy Warmack


THE LONDON SCHOOL EXPLOSION-May 25, 1937
(Henderson Co TX??)
Womack, Bernice, Student


NEWSPAPER LISTINGS
Womack, Joseph D., letter in postoffice, Gonz.Inq. 9 Apr 1881
Wamue, Mr., Atlanta, Harwood col., No. 17 Gonz.Inq 21 Oct 1882

MEMBERSHIP ROLL OF SUNSET PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, Dallas Co, TX
1927-1993
Womack, Mrs. H. D.
Womack, Oscar
Womack, Mrs. Oscar

Joined Name
09/10/50 Womack, H. D. PFB RR 12/31/73
09/10/50 Womack, Mrs. H. D. PFB RR 12/31/73
04/15/51 Womack, Oscar LaMesa (CA) Pres. 10/14/51 to St. Andrews, Dallas
04/15/51 Womack, Mrs. Oscar LaMesa (CA) Pres. 10/14/51 to St. Andrews, Dallas
09/16/51 Womack, Dorothy PFB 10/14/51 to St. Andrews, Dallas
09/16/51 Womack, Diane PFB 10/14/51 to St. Andrews, Dallas



Texas 1920 Census Alphabetical by County


Sunday, March 13, 2005 at 12:28:22 (PST)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

Beth,

This is in my files on that. Let me know if it matches up with what you have. Thanks. Erin

1) From Madison Co. Musings, Volume IX, Fall 1989, No. 3, pages 114-120. States that Jacob Womack is Johnson Ashley's father and that Sarah Johnson is his mother; states that Johnson Ashley is listed in the 1799 Tax List for Grainger, Tennessee; on the 1815-1816 Tax List for Arkansas Territory in Lawrence Co.; and on the 1820 census for Lawrence, Territory of Arkansas; and that he came to Madison Co. before 1832 and settled in what would become Madison Co. near the Washington Co. line.

2) Madison Co. Musings, Volume IX, Fall 1989, No. 3, pages 114 -120. States that Jacob Womack is Johnson's father and that Sarah Johnson is his mother; states that Jacob is listed on the Washington, Tennessee Tax Lists in 1778, that he is listed in Burke, North Carolina and that he is listed in the 1790 census for Pendleton, South Carolina.


Monday, March 14, 2005 at 01:29:17 (PST)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

This information I have has lots of names and such, but it is 338 pages long. To big to post, so if you are looking for someone in this area, let me know.
Erin



WASHINGTON CO., ARK., FEDERAL LAND RECORDS

This file was compiled from the Bureau of Land Management
land records and includes Homestead and Cash Entry Patents
before 1908 for what is now Washington Co, AR.



L Name F Name MI Sec No T R Acres Date Warrant Name Remarks



WOMAC MARY A 7 15N 32W 80 1860/10/01
WOMAC MARY A 7 15N 32W 0 1860/10/01
WOMAC WILLIAM C 19 15N 32W 120 1860/10/01
WOMAC WILLIAM C 19 15N 32W 0 1860/10/01


Monday, March 14, 2005 at 01:37:46 (PST)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net


WOMACK GENEALOGY

THE OFFICIAL PUBLICATION OF THE WOMACK FAMILY ASSOCIATION


President: Walter Womack, McMinnville, Tennessee
Editor: Oscar Womack, Daylight, Tennessee
Secretary: Mrs. Clifton Wolfe, Route 14, Knoxville, Tennessee
Genealogist: William Perry Johnson, Box 531, Raleigh, North Carolina
Treasurer: Mrs. R. L. Anderson, McMinnville, Tennessee



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VOL. I, NO. 2 - DECEMBER 1957 - WHOLE NO. 2
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PHOTOCOPY OF EARLIEST LAND PATENT TO A WOMACK--
RICHARD WOMACK, 450 ACRES, HENRICO COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1672/3




From: Land Patent Book 6 (1666-1679), page 447,Virginia State Library, Richmond, Virginia

The above Patent reads as follows ("translated" by William Perry Johnson):To all st: Whereas st: Now know yee that I ye sd Sir Will Berkeley knt. st: give and graunt unto Richard Womack foure hundred and fivety acres three rood eight po: of land on ye North side of Appomatock River in Henrico Cout extending as ffolloweth (beginning at a small branch of ye Ashen Swampe and running along ye Swampe So: by Ea: 220 po: over a small branch to a Pokicory No: Ea: over ye same branch 26 po: then up ye branch No: Ea: by Ea: 94 po Ea: by No: along ye branch to ye head of it 102 po So: So: Ea: 22 po: to John Puckett his line No: Ea: b Ea 54 po: No: Ea: by No: 130 po: to ye head of ye Spring Run No: Ea: by Ea: 56 po: No: by We: 34 po: No: We: 60 po: to Mr. Baugh his line neigh ye Round Kash[?] No: No: We: 15 po: to Maior [Major] Harris his cornor We: by So: 380 po: to ye place aforementioned the sd land being due unto ye sd Richard Womack by and for ye transportacon of nine persons into this Collony whose names are: Dated the 15th March 1672/3
Sarah Johnson
Jane Hayes
Jean Grigory


John Adams
Jane Barrett
Jane Treble


Mary Cooke
Tho: Browne
An: Percer


Monday, March 14, 2005 at 12:49:34 (PST)
Carolyn Wiley
Carolynspast@aol.com

WOMACK-YANCEY-DAVIS-ROBERTS

There is more than one Davis-Yancey-Womack connection in VA and Caswell, CO., NC. Please read to the bottom of the page. A good story is worth repeating.




Annie Elizabeth Yancey (1821-1900) of Caswell Co., NC
Her Experience With Early Plastic Surgery



Ancestry: Annie E. Yancey, daughter of Bartlett, son of Bartlett, son of James, son of Charles, son of Charles Yancey

Annie Elizabeth Yancey was born in Caswell County, NC on June 15, 1821, and was the sixth child of Bartlett and Nancy Graves Yancey. During her early childhood she suffered the common diseases of children. As a young child her health was very poor, so much so that she was unable to attend school. Her entire formal training amounted to only nine months. At age seven her father passed away. This she could not understand. Annie Elizabeth was blessed with a brilliant mind, was an avid reader, and was eager to learn. It was said that she read all of her father's law books through several times. Medical books were also available to her and she read them. She was determined to learn.

The disease which haunted her for many years was diagnosed as inflammatory rheumatism. This plagued the child for quite a long period of time. Her doctor tried about every medicine available to him at that time. It was the decision of the doctor, and agreed to by the family, that the patient should be salivated. This was accomplished by giving heavy doses of calomel. Following the treatment the patient contracted what was called "Ozena". Her skin and flesh appeared to be in a stage of decay. Her condition became critical. The flesh was in such a condition that her nose dropped off. Survival seemed to be almost miraculous. Of course, loss of her nose greatly disfigured the face. As a young woman, life became almost unbearable. Often she felt the urge to walk a few yards east, sit on the stone mourner's bench, surrounded by rock walls shaded by cedars, and among those who had passed, cry over her oppressive burdens. She fully decided that she "could not go through life in that condition". When she arrived at the age to make decisions, it was agreed that she should go to a surgeon in Philadelphia for what we call today plastic surgery.

After careful study by the doctors and surgeon, she was told that they could take flesh and skin from her arm or forehead and make a nose for her. Annie Elizabeth objected to taking it from the arm on the premise that this might affect her ability to use it. The doctor then asked if she would agree for the transplant to be taken from her forehead. That seeming to be the best solution, the patient agreed. During the entire operation, she watched the procedure through a set of mirrors, and without a modern day anesthetic. Silver tubes were used to hold the nose in proper shape and to serve as nostrils.

This brought a reawakening to her. It changed her life. Happiness and contentment were again part of her. Life became meaningful. She was truly happy.

Following the death of her mother, and at age 34, Annie Elizabeth and Thomas Jefferson Womack were married. Secret aspirations became a reality. The fulfillment of love and gratitude filled her heart. She looked forward to children. Their first was a boy and they named him Bartlett Yancey for his late grandfather. Today a large portrait of the three by Roberts is on display at the home of Miss Annie Yancey Gwyn, a favorite cousin of the Womack family. By deduction and some research, the painter has been identified as William Anderson Roberts (1837-1899). He was a famous artist, a nearby neighbor, and at age 20, painted the portrait of the three in 1857. This was his third commercially painted portrait for which he was paid $60. In that portrait the lifetime scar on Mrs. Womack's forehead was almost obscured by the brush.
WILLIAM ANDERSON ROBERTS IS THE SON OF ELIJAH AND REBECCA DAVIS ROBERTS. REBECCA IS THE DAUGHTER OF OUR REV. WAR GRANDPA JOHN BOSWELL DAVIS. Is Miss Annie Yancey Gwyn online or related to any Womack searchers in this group? We'd like to contact her.

In Annie Elizabeth's adult life she assisted with community problems, assumed civic responsibilities, even the performance of marriages, especially for slaves. When doctors could not be secured she was called into service.

The Womacks had three other children - Sally Henry, Nancy and Thomas Pancoast, who was named for his father and the famous surgeon who performed the operation on his mother's nose. Today there is a large Medical Foundation and a Pancoast Surgical Procedure, both so named in memory of the famous surgeon.

PLEASE LIST A SURNAME IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF EMAIL TO CAROLYNSPAST@AOL.COM.



Monday, March 14, 2005 at 17:13:17 (PST)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

I think I found the Davy Crockett connetion to the Womacks. Thanks everyone!

Erin


Monday, March 14, 2005 at 19:16:46 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Ladies and Gentlemen
Notwithstanding the eagerness of some to post information here -- lets please keep the posts to a small roar - in other words, not lengthy dissertations - many of the recent posts have information that is listed either on Rogers web page or mine -- and available to anyone -- also the Womack Association Genealogy Volumes are all available here on WGN - merely remind people they are here -- check the home page out --


Monday, March 14, 2005 at 23:42:57 (PST)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

Sorry. I thought I was being of help. I'll Shut up now...


Tuesday, March 15, 2005 at 06:32:22 (PST)
SSgt. Michael Womack
mikew@elylib.uk

Hello, I am now stationed at Lakin Heath AFB in England. It is just 7 miles from the cathedral at Ely & I have been there several times checking old documents that pertain to the UK Womacks. One day I met an older gentleman, Thomas Axelander Womack, who was a Womack descendant who had done a lot of research in the Thames Public Library and had much information about the Britt Womacks. Worshams, Allens, Pucketts origins in the UK.
I only have access to the Ely Library computer an he does not do computers therefor I will have to visit him as I can and relay his information. Most of the old records in the UK are kept in the parish churches, there is not a central data base that I know of and everything is hard to decipher from records five hundred years old. The parish custodians are very choosy about letting anyone handle the old books. The next time I go to Ely I will question Thomas about his information and post my findings here.
My line is through Maj.Jacob and Mary Wills Cole Womack.
SSgt. Michael Womack


Tuesday, March 15, 2005 at 08:54:28 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@netzero.com

Michael
Major Jacob Womack WAS NOT married to Mary Wills Cole Womack
First there was no Mary Wills Cole Womack - there was a Mary Wills
whose mother Mary Whitlock Wills married John Cole in Aug 1772..
Mary was John Cole's stepdaughter -

Jacob Womack, my 4th great gramps, and a cousin to Maj Jake, married Mary Wills.
Proof of her maiden name is in her Son Danie;'s Bible record of which I have a transcript --

This misnomer has been handed down thru a lot of time; even the DAR has been duped on this one...

At this time, there is some derision whether not Maj Jake was married to a Sarah Johnson or a Martha someone -- most lean towards the Sarah ..

By the way, there are old colonial records stored in London somewhere, used to be Somerset House but were moved to a Public Records Office somewhere -- I must say tho, it is refreshing to have a Womack there that can find some time to do research and pass it along -- that has been sorely needed --

By the way can you e mail me your line back???

Mine is
Richard I
Richard II
Alexander Sr
Alexander Jr
Jacob Sr
Thomas
Samuel M
Thomas A

Maj Jakes would go:

Richard I
Richard II
Richard III (brother ot Alex Sr)
Maj Jake

Note that I do not count the alleged William Womack/Mary Judd Allen yet...

Samuel L
Samuel O
Samuel W (me)


Tuesday, March 15, 2005 at 21:38:50 (PST)
Mark Womack
markwomack@womacknet.com

test


Tuesday, March 15, 2005 at 22:45:49 (PST)
Mark Womack
markwomack@womacknet.com

Well, just ignore my test there. Sorry. I am in the middle of moving the WGN site to a different domain name and in the process I am revamping the web pages, etc.

As I was going through the pages, I am sorry to say that we haven't had very many recent submissions for feature or source articles. I know folks like Sam and Roger have been posting stuff on their own web sites, and that is great. But if there is anyone out there that wants to submit articles for publication on the WGN site, please let me know. You don't have to be a web/html guru, I can help with that part.

I would also like to have a better set of links to external information. The external links we have right now are out of date and the sites don't exist anymore. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.

Please email inquiries to me directly instead of the message board here.

thanks!
-Mark


Wednesday, March 16, 2005 at 07:30:43 (PST)
roselyn
rmansueto18@yahoo.co
http://partnerclicks.net/click.php?APID=2&affID=0001008

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Quitting is hard, but don't give up!
Quitsmoking Now! For better Life,,!!!



Wednesday, March 16, 2005 at 08:26:59 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Rose u should put she also not just he females smoke as much as males. LOL yall crack me up when yall say this stuff about smoking when ppl that r in the best shape of their life then the next week or month they die from causes u mention and it's their friend the smoking being palbearer at their funeral. what a shame. THE WAY I SEE IT IF U SMOKE OR NOT IF IT'S YOUR TIME TO GO U WILL LEAVE THIS OLD WORLD NO MATTER WHAT U R DOING OR WETHER IN GOOD OR BAD HEALTH.


Wednesday, March 16, 2005 at 20:03:29 (PST)
Billy Alday
bkalday@webtv.net..

Hello
I am looking for the tie of Alday to Womack.
Thanks for any info.
Billy Alday


Wednesday, March 16, 2005 at 23:28:29 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ATTN: Billy

Richard and Ann Nancy/Nancy Ann Womack III had a daughter named Ann Womack and she did marry a Josiah Alday. Ann was Major Jacob Womack's sister.


Wednesday, March 16, 2005 at 23:48:07 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Attn: Billy

ID: I77492235
Name: Josiah ALDAY
Given Name: Josiah
Surname: Alday
Sex: M
Change Date: 13 Jul 2001

Marriage 1 Ann WOMACK
Married: 14 Jan 1760 Lunenburg Co., VA
Children
Benjamin ALDAY


Wednesday, March 16, 2005 at 23:51:11 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Some Blankenship Marriages

Mary Emma Blankenship, age 24, married Jno Dallas Womack, age 22, of
Halifax, February 15, 1893, parents were J.T. and Bettie B. Blankenship,


Ann Eliza Blankenship and Lafayette Womack April 3, 1858 page 173, parents
were Charles W. and Mary L. Womack and Braxton and Orentha Blankenship,
married by Silvany Gardner


Saturday, March 19, 2005 at 01:27:55 (PST)
W. Dale Blankenship Jr.
wdaleduck@msn.com

Hello! I have been researching my family name BLANKENSHIP for a few years now and recently found that my grandmother's maiden name was WOMACK. My grandfather was CLIFFORD BLANKENSHIP and if the information is right her name may have been ANN.
They lived in Everton Arkansas and are burried near there. I wasn't raised by my father and have been stumped to find Clifford's parents My folks are deceased and I haven't been able to get the info from other family members and until now I haven't tried to research the WOMACK line other than possibly her father was a preacher of some sort in Arkansas. If anyone has info to share so that I may begin documenting my WOMACK line, I would appreciate. Thank you and God bless!


Saturday, March 19, 2005 at 02:45:04 (PST)
W. Dale
wdaleduck @msn.com

Okay had it wrong. I e-mailed my Aunt this morning who was up and sent me a message back quickly. Clifford was my grandfather but was not married to a womack but she was his mother and her name was Ella. His father was named Tom and spelled the last name Blankinship instead of Blankenship but changed it sometime in early 1900s. They were married in Benton, Arkansas 17 Dec 1902. She was 23 and he was 19 years old. Thats all Aunt Mary Ella new. She did not know Ella Womack's parents. Now I no why had trouble with the last name for grandparents. any info would be appreciated. thanks and god bless


Saturday, March 19, 2005 at 22:33:30 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

What Kind of Genealogist are You?


Not all genealogists are pursuing the same hobby. I classify genealogists into 4 general categories, with what I estimate are the percentages of genealogist who fall in each group:

COLLECTORS OF DEAD RELATIVES (25%) - These folks happily collect whatever information they find. They seldom if ever take the trouble to confirm anything from original records. They seek quantity rather than quality, are generally interested in all their ancestral lines, and as many of their lines of cousins, no matter how distant, as they can find. The Internet and the GEDCOM file have put them in hog heaven, and you can hear them enthusiastically talking about the 2,500 new cousins they added last week. They are probably the most enthusiastic genealogists, are the most willing to share their information with others, and are most likely to have their whole line available on the Internet. They are the biggest offenders when it comes to passing along errors, but collectors are also very easy to identify, and can be avoided by those who take the hobby more seriously. They actually have more fun trading ancestors with other "Collectors" anyway, and think the others take it all too seriously.

HOBBYISTS (40%) - These folks often learned about genealogy from a book or a class. They keep good records, tend to limit their research to their direct ancestors, a few surname lines, and/or cousins closer than 5th or at most 6th. They tend to put a great deal more emphasis on biographical information, photographs, and copies of certificates and documents (not because they're sources, but because they're historical mementos.) Lists of names and dates with no "meat" tend to bore them, and they're more likely, if they get such lists, to start digging into the libraries and local records to see if they can give the name a personality. For them, the family genealogy is a continuing saga of people's lives, and their pride is in piecing together the story. They record sources sometimes, but they aren't necessarily all that conscientious about it. They are not nearly as turned on by Internet web sites, but ohhh, do they love email! For them, genealogy is a social experience and email connects them with more interesting people with more interesting stories. They're also the most likely to be seen at family reunions, notebook or tape recorder in hand.

PROFESSIONALS (25%) - Most of these folks don't actually do this for a living, but they have a lot in common with the folks that do. For them, documentation is the key. Quality is all important, quantity immaterial. Unlike the hobbyists, they feel genealogy is far less social, as they're not all that impressed with oral history, in that they suspect that many of the cute and interesting stories are exaggerated and even fictional. Most of the people documented in their records have primary or at least very dependable derivative sources, or they are marked clearly as "unproven" or even "questionable". They tend to spend lots of time scouring census records, church registers, and public record offices. Like the Collectors, they are very turned on by the Internet, but unlike them, they are using it to locate new record sources in distant places where they can finally get what they need to prove that elusive connection. These folks tend to happily fit the stereotype of the genealogist at the microfilm reader in the deepest, darkest basement room in the library.

SKEPTICS (10%) - These folks aren't as visible as the other three categories. They are really not all that interested in genealogy, per se, but for other reasons, are involved in genealogy research. They might be found among adoptees or persons assisting them; members of patriotic groups like the DAR; lawyers looking for heirs or other missing folks; or historians researching events or localities. Because their quests involve things more important than just curiosity about family or the fun of a hobby, they require a much greater level of proof than even the professionals, and reject many connections that even the most diligent hobby genealogists would quickly accept. There is also a class of skeptic into which a few ex-genealogists fall ... persons who decided that most of the information available is likely to be bad, if not because of transcription errors and premature jumping to conclusions, but because of intentional hiding of the truth by the ancestors and cousins themselves, trying to cleanse history in their favor. They often quit the hobby in frustration.

While most genealogists pretty clearly fall in one of these categories, some do fall on the borderlines between them. The librarian who is really a hobbyist, but has the skill to document like a professional. The collectors who spend more time and effort documenting their direct ancestry, but lets the cousins fall where they may. The historian who gets involved in the story of a family of folks from his/her town, and ends up researching and documenting them as a separate project. Whatever type of genealogist you are, my guess is that you could place yourself pretty accurately on this continuum, and with a little thought, you could place everyone else you deal with somethere on it, too.




Saturday, March 19, 2005 at 22:34:19 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net


Sunday, March 20, 2005 at 19:43:24 (PST)
Mark Womack
markwomack@womacknet.com

Moved February messages to the archive.


Thursday, March 24, 2005 at 09:37:08 (PST)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

FYI
I thought I would break the zone of silence on the message page.
Jack


Thursday, March 24, 2005 at 09:43:38 (PST)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Yikes it works!
Well here is a little FYI, the folowing are Womacks buried in the Texas National Cemeteries;
Kerrville National Cemetery
Kerrville, Kerr County, Texas
Womack, Clifford E, d. 11/28/1939, US Army, PVT, OK, Plot: 1A 0 20, bur. 11/29/1939
Womack, Lee C, d. 03/21/1942, US Army, PVT, GA, Plot: 2D 0 19, bur. 03/23/1942

San Antonio National Cemetery San Antonio, Bexar County, TexasWomack, Gus J, d. 10/21/1918, Plot: F 0 1088, bur. 10/21/1918

Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery
San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas
Womack, John A, b. 06/09/1898, d. 06/06/1994, US Army, PVT, Plot: 8A 0 1195, bur. 07/25/1994
Womack, John Fontain, b. 09/10/1895, d. 06/02/1973, US Navy, SN, Res: San Antonio, TX, Plot: 2-A 0 2386, bur. 06/05/1973
Womack, Julius Otto, b. 08/14/1930, d. 08/28/1963, LA, Plot: MA 0 11, bur. 08/28/1963
Womack, Louise A, b. 06/15/1905, d. 01/17/1996, US Army, 1ST SGT, Res: San Antonio, TX, Plot: 2-A 0 2386, bur. 01/19/1996
Womack, Lylas D, b. 07/02/1932, d. 03/04/1999, US Army, 1ST SGT, Res: San Antonio, TX, Plot: 25 0 517, bur. 03/08/1999
Womack, Olvis , b. 07/15/1918, d. 04/15/1980, MSGT USA, Plot: AH 1963, bur. 04/18/1980, *
Womack, Willis G, b. 05/21/1929, d. 08/01/1982, COL USAF, Plot: 3 1168A, bur.
08/03/1982, *

Houston National Cemetery
Houston, Harris County, Texas
Womack, Charlotte K, b. 09/03/1927, d. 06/04/1995, US Army, PFC, Res: Magnolia, TX, Plot: G2 0 2112, bur. 06/08/1995
Womack, Edmund James, b. 05/17/1949, d. 03/24/1989, SGT U S A F, Houston, Harris, Texas, Plot: K 2394, bur. 03/30/1989, *
Womack, German Sr, b. 08/03/1922, d. 04/04/1997, US Army Air Corps, PFC, Res: Milwaukee, WI, Plot: C-11 B 72, bur. 04/11/1997
Womack, Herbert Alvin, b. 11/14/1924, d. 11/17/1993, S2C NAVY, Plot: G1 363, bur. 11/19/1993, *
Womack, Joan, b. 01/10/1918, d. 02/26/1987, Plot: I 2758, bur. 03/02/1987, *
Womack, John Henry, b. 09/04/1920, d. 04/13/1998, US Army, PVT, Res: Nacogdoches, TX, Plot: K2 0 124, bur. 04/17/1998
Womack, Johnnie, b. 01/16/1922, d. 10/02/1991, PFC USA, Plot: J 1113, bur. 10/07/1991, *
Womack, Leon, b. 01/06/1914, d. 11/26/1996, US Army, 1ST SGT, Res: Houston, TX, Plot: J 0 3840, bur. 12/03/1996
Womack, O.T., b. 01/22/1924, d. 12/26/1985, STM1 US NAVY, Plot: J 322, bur. 12/31/1985,


Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 18:12:50 (PST)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Wishing everyone a happy Easter. Go to http://www.grayace.com/dex/bunny.html for a cute message. Then send the URL to your grand children they will enjoy it.
Jack


Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 19:19:31 (PST)
sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Jack
Shake the tree a little harder - only one apple fell out -- I got to thinking I had posted something (usually when I do it gets quiet a few days) -- anyhow, thanks for the cemetery info --


Monday, March 28, 2005 at 10:07:05 (PST)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Sam
I sincerely hope that you can take a little constructive criticism.
Do you think the reason for the lull in postings could possibly be due to your post berating and chastising some of the exuberant people who do post? I have a cousin who is becoming an avid genealogist who will no longer post because she fears ridicule from you. She is only one of the few who feel the same way.
Posting to the board is a privilege afforded to all, whether it is a miniscule bit of information or a lengthily dialog. The post may be a repeat of information others have posted before but thats okay, some researchers never dig into the archives and a reminder helps at times. A simple obit post or a long dissertation may furnish someone the clue they need to complete a search.
We should never discourage anyone who is posting matter that pertains to genealogy or information on computer security. We all need help at times and I think the Womacks are a breed of helpful and considerate people who are mindful of others feelings. I know you have helped an untold number of people in the past but I beg of you please refrain from the caustic remarks, some are not like you or I , they are a little more sentisive.
Jack


Monday, March 28, 2005 at 22:27:03 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Jack
Message received - however, I do not believe my last post about the misnomer on my 4th great, of whom I have extolled the mistake numerous times, should have caused any great holding back from anyone I would have welcomed an answer from Michael on that one and the fact that I also stated it was great we had someone in England that could add to the research --

Constructive critism is ok - but too often loosely defined -- Yes, I do criticize people who dont post even the miniscule bit of info they may have -
That is constructive also -

I do also criticize those to whom I send info outside WGN, after getting their query off WGN, and never get a response saying they got the info; or if it even helped at all --

But, also, if anyone has a problem with me - they they should have the intestinal fortitude to come direct to me and say so - not second hand from someone else -

I am sorry some people believe the way they do about posting info - afraid of what I will say?? Nice excuse - but no kewpie doll...

So, I guess the best thing for me, WGN and everyone else is to stay outta the way and keep off and not try to do anything here or for anyone on the side.
Some people are too sensitive; not to say cant read between the lines very well at all!!









Monday, March 28, 2005 at 23:35:54 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

I have had ppl not tell me they got my info. or read my post That reminds me I wonder if they did get it.Any how have a good day all


Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 07:22:40 (PST)
Sandi Phillips
sphillips@tucsonairport.org

Good Morning:

Well I can tell we are all Womacks - sensitive, straightfoward, to say the least, and always trying to help or get some help...hehe

Come on you guys, I'm new here - Sam lead me to his website and I love it. I wish I had more info to give, but unfortunately, like I said, I'm new to this and most the information I have you all already have - but if I ever did come across something I thought would be interesting I would post it - regardless if it might be a repeat or not - like Jack said, sometimes a little reminder is great, especially without going back into the archives. Those of you who have been doing this for a while pretty much have this information memorized, why? Because you have had it repeated over and over, and have done most of the research, but new ones like me are still learning all of the information that you have known for years...Sam, don't stop posting - you have a lot of interesting things - and Jack you appear to be very well documented as well...I have gone back into the archives and personally it was overwhelming how much information there was - in fact I have gone back several times and reviewed things, so I welcome when someone posts a new message with some of the old stuff - it helps me a lot to get more comfortable with all the names and dates of who and where and when...

Keep up the good work - and someday I hope to be able to chime in and give some new information that may you all have gotten yet...

Sandi


Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 12:53:39 (PST)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

DERRELL
You can rest assured others have read your postings. I for one found some interesting reading in there, may not have been exactly in my line but interesting because I study all lines and record a lot of information I find in the post for future reference. I have an inkling that we are all descendants of one early Colonial progenitor so I always find something useful to store in my databases that will help someone in their quest. ERIN DENT'S post are refreshing and a lot of info in there I didn't have, so you guys post away, trust me, they will be read. Sure a lot of us are in a group that trade info by e mail but by posting somebody else gets in the loop. To all my cousins who hesitate to post I say post what you can and often as you can, we need the input. Personally I enjoy helping others with what little I have.
Caveman Jack


Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 21:16:10 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Derrell
I can truthfully say you have been more truthful and giving here on WGN than any I have seen in years - Keep up the good work - but after 32 years of Womack research ( or was that 33??) I am tired - time someone took over my reins and those of others ---


Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 12:00:01 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Thx Sam and Jack


Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 13:42:49 (PST)
Jerry L. Griffin
g7347@teleclipse.net

I had posted I think twice before about my ggg/grandparents Kinchen Griffin and Ferebe WOMACK who were married in 1817 in Wake county N.C.(at the time of the post I was trying to prove if they were indeed my ancestors and my relation to the WOMACK line. Well several weeks back I proved that these people were indeed my ancestoral grandparents and that Albridgton WOMACK would be another ancestoral grandparent. I guess "this is a little success story" but now I am intrigued by the WOMACK heritage and want to find out all I can about my ancestors. Thanks for letting me share.

Warmest regards,

Jerry L Griffin


Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 22:15:11 (PST)
Randall Merriott
merriott@nts-online.net

Looking for marriage record of Edward C Womack, b. 9 Nov. 1841, Winn Parish, La, d. 8 Aug 1912, Brown County, Texas and Sarah A Jordan. They married probably about 1863 in Winn Parish, Louisiana. However, I have no proof of this. Edward C Womack is son of Jesse W Womack and grandson of David Womack of Gadsden County Florida. Daughter Martha Ella WOMACK Kirksey was born February 11, 1864.

Military records and pension application indicate that Edward was serving in the Confederate Army during this period.

Louisiana Confederate Soldier Database - "Womack, Edward C.,Pvt. Co. C, 12th La. Inf. En. Aug. 18, 1861, Camp Moore, La. Roll to Oct. 31, 1861, Discharged Oct. 7, 1861, at Columbus, Ky."

From Spring of 1862 to the close of the war Edward served with Waller's 13th Texas Cavalry Battalion in Texas and Lousiana. Listed as Private E.C. Womack, later promoted to Sgt.

Possibly took a furlough to marry Sarah, but haven't yet found any record of this or of the date of their marriage.

Would like some confirmation that Ella was his blood offspring and not adopted later after the war.

Thanks,

Randall Merriott (gg grandson of Martha Ella)
Lubbock TX


Friday, April 01, 2005 at 13:51:10 (PST)
Patricia Collins
pkcollins@earthlink.net

I found your site by accident and was thrilled. Was wondering if anyone had any information on my Womack side of the family. Grandma says there are kin in Texas, but she didn't know how they tied in with Grandaddy. She only remembers that some cousins would come to NC to visit. This is my lineage that I have verified thus far:
Marion Womack born 1843 married Lydia Ann Spence born April 2, 1842
Children: Cornelia (Neely) born about 1861, Columbus (Lum) born about 1867,
Etta aborn about 1870, Mary born about 1871, *William Green* born
22 June 1873,Emma born about 1874. Lydia was washing clothes at the
creek, fell hitting her head and seizured until she died. She was
pregnant with twins who were born and died along with her. They
were named Raymond and Tharna.
William Green Womack (1873-1936)married Rosie Baker
Children: Lidia Vallie (Vallie) born August 18, 1895, Vernon Mayton
Thomas (Tom) born May 13, 1901, Bleaker May (Bleaker)
born May 14, 1904, Gloomie Imeter (Gloomie) born
November 6, 1906, Pernie Essie (Pernie) born January 28,
1909, Myrtle Blanche (Myrtle) born March 18, 1911~still
living, William Preston (Pres) born August 17, 1913,
*Layton* born December 3, 1915
Layton Womack ( 1915-1990)married Mary Magdalene Honeycutt~still living
Children: *Barbara Nell Womack*
James Ray Womack
Barbara Nell Womack married Donald Ray Collins
Children: Patricia Kaye Collins
Clayton Ray Collins

I have been working on my paternal line and just starting with the research on my maternal line. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Have a great day,
Pat


Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 21:00:50 (PST)
Randall Merriott
merriott@nts-online.net

Following is an extract from Edward C. WOMACK's Confederate Pension Application. Brother L.L. (Lewis) is mentioned as well as sisters Bettie (Elizabeth Womack Stovall) and N.A. (Nancy Womack ?) Shepperd.


From Texas Confederate Pension Application of Edward C. WOMACK

Date of filing 9 Aug 1909; rejected 31 Aug 1909

Name of Applicant - E.C. Womack
County - Brown
Post Office - Blanket

Statements:



``I surrendered at close of war''

Age - 67
Birthplace - Winn Parish, LA
How long a resident of Texas - 36 years
County of residence - Brown Co.
How long a resident of this county - 33 years
Post office - Blanket
Ever applied for a pension before - No
Occupation - Farmer and merchant
In what State was the command in which you served organized- 1st La, then Texas
How long did you serve - Enlisted July 16 1861 - to close of war
Letter of Company, number or name of battalion, regiment or battery - Co. E of Waller's Battalion, Greene's Brigade
Transferred - No
Branch - Cavalry
Commissioned - No
Special services - No
Transferred any property to establish eligibility - No
Application Date - 23 July 1909


Witnesses G.W. Eaton and D.M. Scott gave an affidavit that E.C. Womack had been a resident of Texas since prior to Jan. 1, 1880.

Mrs. N.A. Shepperd and Mrs. Bettie Stovall gave the following affidavit concerning E.C. Womack's service:

``E.C. Womack is our brother. We know that he belonged to the Confederate Army both in La. & Texas. He belonged to Waller's Battalion in Texas. We lived in Texas at the time he joined Waller's Battalion. He went from here to join the Army and remained in the army until its close. He came home one time and stayed about one week, we wrote him letters frequently while he was in the army. We addressed letters to Waller's battalion.''
Certificate of the State and County Tax Assessor - blank
Assessed value - left blank

Deposition taken by County Judge of Eastland County, Texas of L.L. Womack 30 July 1909:


``My name is L.L. Womack, age 59 years, residence in Stephens County, Texas, and P.O. address is Ranger. I personally knew E.C. Womack, he is my brother. I have know E.C. Womack all my life. I personally knew that E.C. Womack enlisted in the Confederate Army and served in that army as a soldier. I know that E.C. Womack enlisted at Goliad, Texas, in Waller's Battalion in the year 1862 in the spring, and served continually in the war until close in 1865.''

``I was at my Father's house when E.C. Womack went to the war, and I know that my brother E.C. Womack left there for Goliad to enlist in the army, and came home on a furlow (sic) once during the war and I got letters from him during the war. I never knew anyone else possing (sic) the same name.''

Are you positively certain that said E.C. Womack applicant for pension, is the identical person serving as testified by you?
``Yes''
Do you know whether or not the said E.C. Womack applicant for pension served honorably from the date of his enlistment until the close of the late Civil War between the States, or until he was discharged from said company and regiment, or the special service to which he had been assigned?

``Yes''

``I know he never abandoned his post of duty, or the service during the war.''


Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 20:42:24 (PDT)
Dave Schoff
rdschoff@hotmail.com

For FYI
San Antonio Express-News, San Antonio, Bexar, Texas, Sunday, April 3, 2005

Womack – Jesse Yell Womack II (“Jess”) died suddenly on April 1, 2005 while on a pleasure trip with his wife, Lou. He was born January 21, 1947 in San Angelo, Texas to parents, Owen Walter Womack and Emily Crain Womack. His ancestors included a pioneering ranching family from Victoria County who were instrumental in bringing Brahma cattle to Texas during the 19th century. Jess moved to San Antonio with his family in 1958, becoming a life-long resident of the city. He was educated at Eaglebrook and Saint Andrews preparatory schools. Jess graduated from the University of the South at Sewanee, Tennessee, where he was a member of Kappa Sigma fraternity. Additionally, he received a graduate degree in business administration from Trinity University. Jess married Helen Louise Strumberg on May 5, 1971. Their marriage was to be the primary focus of each of their lives, producing four children and great shared joy. Jess was a member of the San Antonio Country Club, the Argyle, the Order of the Alamo, the German Club, the Texas Cavaliers, and the Conopus Club. His Board memberships included the San Antonio Zoo and previously the Mission Road Development Center. His business interests were varied including agricultural and ranching operations in Blanco and Victoria counties. These endeavors stimulated what was to be an abiding interest in conservation of the natural resources under his direction. For this Jess and his wife were awarded the honor of being designated “Land Steward of the Year” in 2003 by the State of Texas. This Award recognized his exceptional devotion to the preservation of the wetlands on his ranch near the confluence of the Guadalupe and San Antonio rivers. Other efforts included involvement in the youth hunting educational activities of the Texas Wildlife Association and the on-going research of the Ceasar Kleberg Wildlife Foundation. Jess was a devoted husband and father. His schedule always was arranged to accommodate these goals as a priority of the first order. He had an unequaled talent for combining his role as a loving husband, devoted father while being a best friend to each and every member of his family. They recognized him as an enduring blessing to them and their lives. Jesse was a member of the First Presbyterian Church of San Antonio. The friends of Jess knew him as a “hail fellow, well met”. He provided great entertainment in a hunting camp or around a campfire. Once, he cultivated you as a friend, you could never have one better or more interested in your well being. His laughter and jolly manner would be you blessing forever. Preceding him in death are his father, Owen Walter Womack; mother, Emily Crain Herder; and stepfather, Paul K. Herder. He is survived by his loving wife, Helen Louise Womack; children, Louisa and husband Jack Mayfield; Jesse Yell Womack III and wife Lisa; Dr. Virginia Nell and Husband Dr. Robert Duncan; and William Henry Crain Womack III; and grandchild, Emily Grace Mayfield. Other survivors include his sister, Suzanne Womack Canavan; brother Walter Crain Womack; aunt, Eileen Sullivan; and numerous nephews, nieces and cousins. Memorial service, Tuesday – April 5, 2005, 3:00 pm; First Presbyterian Church, 404 N. Alamo. Rev. Richard R. Kannwischer will be officiating.


Monday, April 04, 2005 at 01:53:09 (PDT)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

Children of David Womack and Elizabeth M. Brisco Were:

William “Will” Jefferson Womack born Feb. 1 1833 Washington Co. Arkansas died Sept. 21,1889 m. Mary Nelson Ensey

Thomas “Jeff” Jefferson Womack born May 11, 1834 Wasington Co. Arkansas died Feb. 22, 1893 m. Eliza Jane Ensey (sister to Mary Nelson Ensey who married William Jefferson Womack)

Margaret E. Womack Aug. 22 1835 Arkansas, died Sept. 29, 1927 Jack Co Texas married James A. Miller

Charity Womack born 1837 married Elijah Armstrong

Mary Womack born Jan 14 1839 married John Worden

According to the book, "Early Texans", John had 13 children by his first wife Louisa Burris, seven who reached maturity: William, Mary A., Nancy J., Jerusha, Francis M., Jack a nd Hezekiah ( Andrew born in 1857 was listed on the 1870 Ce nsus ) Members of the Primitive Baptist Church.

Nancy Womack Aug 7, 1840 married William Worden


William Jefferson Womack is my line.
Erin


Monday, April 04, 2005 at 02:40:18 (PDT)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

These William and Thomas Womack's are the sons of William Jefferson Womack and Mary Nelson Ensey Womack. They worked on the High Farm in Jack County Texas. Mary Nelson Ensey Womack died in 1875 and William had remarried and started another faimly. William Jefferson Womack's Mother, Elizabeth lived with william and his new family in 1880. William was married to Elisa J. at that time.


1880 Texas Census:
Census Place: Precinct 1, Jack, Texas
Source: FHL Film 1255313 National Archives Film T9-1313 Page 7A
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
William HIGH Self M M W 29 GA
Occ: Cattle Raiser & Farmer Fa: SC Mo: SC
Martha E. HIGH Wife F M W 31 TX
Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: MO
Alma STRICKLAN SDau F S W 5 TX
Fa: TN Mo: TX
George STRICKLAN SSon M S W 2 TX
Fa: TN Mo: TX
Wm. WAMACK Other M W 16 TX
Occ: Helps On Farm Fa: TN Mo: AR
Thomas WAMACK Other M S W 19 TX
Occ: Helps On Farm Fa: TN Mo: AR


Monday, April 04, 2005 at 03:02:53 (PDT)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

PS to last post:

By the way, there are a couple of errors on the census below. William's middle name was Jefferson not Jackson. Jackson was Elisa J.'s madian name. She was also a widow before marrying William and her deceased husband's name was Elkins.

Erin


Monday, April 04, 2005 at 03:05:16 (PDT)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

1880 Texas

* Census Place: Precinct 1, Jack, Texas
Source: FHL Film 1255313 National Archives Film T9-1313 Page 7A
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
Wm. WAMACK Self M M W 47 AR
Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: AL
Louisa J. WAMACK Wife F M W 32 TN
Occ: Keeping House Fa: NC Mo: AL
John S. WAMACK Son M W 14 TX
Occ: Helps On Farm Fa: AR Mo: TN
James C. WAMACK Son M S W 10 TX
Fa: AR Mo: TN
George A. WAMACK Son M S W 8 TX
Fa: AR Mo: TN
Arazonia WAMACK Dau F S W 3 TX
Fa: AR Mo: TN
Mollie WAMACK Dau F S W 1M TX
Fa: AR Mo: TN
James C. ELKINS SSon M S W 10 TN
Fa: TN Mo: VA
Elizabeth LEDBETTER MotherL F W 68

Note: William Jackson Womack, sp. Louisa J. Ledbetter. RGW


Monday, April 04, 2005 at 13:41:54 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

After seeing Dave's post of Jesse Yell Womack II's obituary yesterday, I became curious about his line (I'm sure most of you already have this knowledge but me). Mr. Womack's death is a terrible loss, and I extend our deepest sympathy to his family.

Jesse's line is:

Richard Womack, III *
Nancy Childers

Jesse Womack *
Dorothy Pryor

John N. "Jack" Womack *
Frances Coleman

Francis Hancock "Frank" Womack *
Nancy Grimes ***

Jessie Willis Womack *
Mary Angela Yell

Jesse Yell Womack I **
Jane Smith

Owen Walter Womack ****
Emily Crain

Jesse Yell Womack II


* Research of Annette Womack Carpenter - Rootsweb's World Connect

** "Womack Genealogy" VOL. I, NO. 2 - DECEMBER 1957 - WHOLE NO. 2
ITEM 12. Mrs. Jesse Yell Womack (nee Jane Smith) writes that her husband, who died in 1956, was the son of Jesse Willis Womack and Angela Yell, and the grandson of Frank Womack from Alabama. Mrs. Womack has twin sons. Of these, Decker married Miss --- Caldwell. They have one daughter Cynthia and a son Decker Smith. The other twin, Owen, married Emily Crain. They have one daughter Suzanne and two sons, Jesse Yell and Walter Crain.

*** WGN Post March 05, 1999 by Jim Cooper (Excerpt)
"....Jesse W. Womack storeowner came to Taylor from Alabama in 1877. He was married to Aggie Yell of Montgomery, Texas in 1876. This is from the Taylor Sunday Press article in a Womack vertical file. Another article in the vertical file was a copy from a History of Texas book (date unknown) that indicates that Jesse W. Womack was born in Washington Co., Alabama in 1849, a son of ??(page is blurred on the side) and Nancy (Grimes) Womack. They came to Texas in 1845, joined the Confederate cause in 1863. This article states he died in 1875. Children of J.W. Womack and Nancy Grimes were , ??(blurred), John F., William, Fannie A., Jesse W., and James B. This Jesse W. Womack, son of Jesse W. and Nancy Grimes, was educated in Montgomery Co, Texas, and also attended a commercial school in New Orleans. where he graduated at age 21. In 1877 he opened a mercantile store in Taylor, in partnership with John Sturgis. In 1878 the store burned, was replaced by a one-story brick bldg, which was shortly torn down and replaced with a two-story brick building in 1889. (There is a picture of it in the vertical file which mentions an opera house operating on the top floor.) Jesse married Aggie Yell , daughter of Judge P. M. and Mary (Rodgers) Yell in 1876. Their children are listed as Cecil, Olga, Frank B., Jessie, a babe unnamed and one deceased when young...."

Note: Error in above data - Nancy Grimes was married to Francis Hancock "Frank" Womack.

**** Mr. Womack's obit

1830 Washington Co., AL Census
250 13 Womack John Jr (John N. Womack, Jr., spouse, Tabitha Ford)
254 15 Womack John Sr (John N. Womack, Sr., spouse, Frances Coleman)

1840 Washington Co., AL Census
278 20 Wamuck John (John N. Womack, spouse, Frances Coleman)
278 25 Wamuck F H (Francis Hancock Womack, spouse, Nancy Grimes)

1850 Montgomery Co.,TX Census
Page 45A, House 217
36 Wamack F H 35 M W Farmer 1000 AL
37 Wamack Nancy 27 F W AL
38 Wamack Mary 11 F W AL
39 Wamack Jack F 8 M W AL
40 Wamack William G 7 M W AL
41 Wamack Francis A? 4 F W TX
42 Wamack Jesse W 11m F W AL (Jesse Willis)

1860 Montgomery P O., Montgomery Co., TX
F. H. Womack, age 45, b. AL
N., age 35, b. AL
M., age 19, b. AL
J. F., age 17, b. AL
W. G., age 15, b. AL
F. A., age 13, b. AL
J. W., age 11, b. AL (Jesse Willis)
J. B. age 7, b. AL (this should be TX)

1870 Montgomery Precinct., Montgomery Co., TX
F. H. Womack, age 55 b. AL
Nancy, age 38, b. AL
Jesse, age 21, b. AL (Jesse Willis)
Joe B., age 16, b. TX

1880 Precinct 6, Williams Co., TX Census (Taylor, TX)
Jessie WORMACK Self M Male W 29 AL Genl. Merchant AL AL
Angie WORMACK Wife M Female W 21 TX Housekeeper TN TN
James HAMILTON Other M Male W 56 PA Stock Broker VA VA

1900 2WD-Taylor., Williamson Co., TX
Jesse A. Womack, b. Dec 1850 AL (the A. is actually a W.)
Mary A., b. Oct 1857 TX Had 7 children, six are living; m. 25 yrs.
Cecil, b. Feb 1881 TX (dau.)
Olga, b. Jan 1885 TX
Frank R., b. Jul 1888 TX
Jesse Y., b. Jan 1890 TX (Jesse Yell I)
Ernest L., b. Nov 1892 TX
William G., b. Dec 1894 TX

1910 2-WD Taylor, Williamson Co., TX
Jesse W. Womack, age 60, b. AL (Jesse Willis)
Mary A., age 51, b. TX
Olga E., age 24, b. TX
Francis R., age 21, b. TX
Jesse Y., age 20, b. TX (Jesse Yell I)
Ernest L., age 17, b. TX
William G., age 15, b. TX

1920 Corpus Christi, Nueces Co., TX
Jesse Y. Womack, age 29, b. TX (Jesse Yell I)
Janie. age 21, b. TX
Owen, age 3 1/2 b. TX
Decker, age 3 1/2 b. TX


Friday, April 08, 2005 at 09:13:35 (PDT)
Steve Womack
swomack@comcast.net

Does anyone have information on when or where Louvisa Rice Womack passed away? I have doing some research on the old Womack cemetary in Warren County and need some help on this question.

Any help would be appreciated.

Steve Womack


Friday, April 08, 2005 at 20:50:30 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

This is one post I find necessary

Dave Maher, one of our contributors, and a distant cuz to all, is to undergo bypass surgery Monday per his wife Rhonda -- join me in prayers for Dave and send your messages of support to both @ rhondaanddave@bigpond.com


Saturday, April 09, 2005 at 12:24:54 (PDT)
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Thursday, April 14, 2005 at 10:33:01 (PDT)
Dana O'Hare (Womack)
dana_ohare@yahoo.com

Hi! My name is Dana and was born a Womack. I didn't really know my father who was Eugene Dana Womack Jr. He left when I was six years old. Now that I am in my late 20's, I really would like to know about my heritage on my father's side of the family so I can pass it along to my own children. Here is what I know and maybe I can fill in the blanks for some of you.
My father Eugene Dana Womack Jr was born in West Virginia in January 1941. He was married to my mom Brenda King. His parents were Eugene Dana Womack Sr and a woman whose last name was Stewart. I know that they had moved from West Virginia and lived in upper Florida. I know Eugene SR divorce the Stewart woman and re-married. There was another boy who was born named Robert Womack. I don't know which marriage it came from. My father was in the US Navy and I know some of the ships he was on but that is about it.
I was wondering if anyone can help me. I didn't know where to start and this looked like a good place since you are all Womacks yourself. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Thursday, April 14, 2005 at 19:51:34 (PDT)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

Dana,
Womacks have been in WV for a while. I found a 9 year old Dana Womack (male) in Jefferson, Kanawha, West Virginia in the 1930 census - this could be your grandfather.
If you are still in the state you search should be easy by visiting the local court house and library.


Thursday, April 14, 2005 at 23:43:10 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ATTN: Dana here is some info for ya

EUGENE DANA WOMACK

87 yrs old
place living at this time-->SAINT ALBANS WV


Friday, April 15, 2005 at 16:36:22 (PDT)
Dana Womack
dana_ohare@yahoo.com

I finally got permission from my mother to research my fathers side. :)
I know that Eugene Dana Womack Jr was my father and he was born January 22, 1942 in Charleston WV. His father who was Eugene Dana Womack Sr was born in the same place and his wife's name was Ruth Catherine O'Neill. They divorce and he re-married a woman named Bertie and they had moved to Lackland, FL and my grandmother moved to Tucsan, AZ where my dad grew up. She had re-married to a man named Dorsey Stewart but he died and she moved to New Shamerna Beach, FL.
My grandfather Eugene Sr's parents were Thomas Womack and Ida Annis McLaughin. He was born in Charleston WV too. That is as far back as my mom knows.
Does this fit anyone's tree?
Thanks


Friday, April 15, 2005 at 16:38:09 (PDT)
Dana Womack
dana_ohare@yahoo.com

By the way, I live in NY and have almost all my life but I was born in Norfolk, VA.


Friday, April 15, 2005 at 18:03:55 (PDT)
Dana Womack
dana_ohare@yahoo.com

I have found some more children my father Eugene Dana Womack JR. had. Apparently my mother was his 4th wife. His first wife was Judy and were married in AZ. They had 2 children Craig Allen Womack and Andrea Dawn Womack. They moved to San Diego, CA where my father served some time in the Navy. They divorced and my father married a Philipino woman without the US's approval and they had a daughter named Eugena. That marriage was annulled. He then had an affair with a Mexican woman named Sandy who he met in Tuscan AZ and had a daughter but no marriage was involved. He then married a woman named Inell in VA and had 2 children named Jeffery Allen and Tina Louise but they were murdered in the early 70's. Then he married my mother Brenda Sue King and had myself (Dana Kristine Womack), and my two brothers Eugene Dana Womack III and Duane AJ Thomas Womack.
Has anyone been looking for this info?


Saturday, April 16, 2005 at 08:36:08 (PDT)
Kathleen J. Palone
southernroots@sbcglobal.net

My maiden name is Kathleen J. Anderson. My father John G. Anderson. His William H. Anderson of Tennessee. His father John G. Anderson, Sr. His wife Sallie Oldham Haynes. Her sister Kate W. Haynes married Frank J. Womack of Texas. They had two children, Morris Kenneth Womack and Charles Cowan Womack of Houston, Texas. I am very interested in my family geneology and am looking for living relatives who might share stories about these people and possibly E Mail some photos for my geneology project. Please contact me.

Thanks


Saturday, April 16, 2005 at 18:42:02 (PDT)
Tammy
willys41.1@juno.com

Hi cousin Erin,

You know, speaking of your William Jefferson Womack (and my Thomas Jefferson Womack, his brother) - I've wondered before about the both of them having the same middle name. Makes you wonder 'where' or from what family member they got that Jefferson name from. What do you think?
love cuz Tammy


Saturday, April 16, 2005 at 18:48:22 (PDT)
Tammy
willys41.1@juno.com

P.S. Oh, by the way, here's my 2-cents worth: (*smile*) I know that there have been many times that I've read this message board and been helped by some tid-bit of info. and it's all interesting info. to me. Even those who post concerning Womack lines other than my own. I enjoy reading all of it. There have been many times when I've helped others with their Womack lines, and/or given and sent them info. on my Womack line when they needed it. And sometimes I never hear from them again. Sad, but that's just the way it goes sometimes. I'm never surprised by that anymore. I just wonder (deep thought here, haha) if they suddenly dropped off the face of the earth, or what?? But then there are times when those I've helped by sending them the Womack info. they needed, do express their gratitude and truly are grateful for the info. But either way, I'll still help those who need info., if and when I can. I enjoy helping and I enjoy reading others' posts here. It's all interesting to me, like I said. Also by the way Jack, I always enjoy and look forward to your emails and posts, as well as the others.
Tammy


Sunday, April 17, 2005 at 02:23:56 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

I know some ppl like that tammy seeing I gave pics and stuff and they right me an e-mail of letters they have but aren't willing to give me copies of all documents they have on Womacks especially when they had an aunt that was a genealogist that had gotten a hold of many documents but I was told not to share what I was sent but I did anyways so it could help others. Ironic ppl claim to be helpful but still tend to hide stuff from ppl trying to just fill the gaps.


Monday, April 18, 2005 at 21:57:25 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Dana,

This is my best guess on your line.....

1840 Halifax Co., VA Census
Miles Womack, age 30-39 b. ca. 1805, d. 1846 Halifax Co., VA
wife: Frances Hawkins Womack, age 34
Henry E.Womack, age 13
James W., Womack, age 12
Elizabeth Womack, age 4
Mary C. Womack, age 3 (Doretta's line)
2 females 0-5 yrs old

Note: Miles was possibly the brother of Mark's Henry Womack

1850 Halifax Co., Va Census
Page 29A, House 447
24 Womack Frances 44 F W 3000 VA
25 Womack Henry E 23 M W Farmer VA
26 Womack James W 22 M W Farmer VA
27 Womack Elizabeth 14 F W VA
28 Womack Mary C 13 F W VA
29 Womack Cornelia S 8 F W VA
30 Womack Labon G 7 M W VA
31 Womack William M 6 M W VA (William Miles...Dana's line)
32 Womack David B 5 M W VA
33 Womack Emily F 3 F W VA

1860 Scottsburg P O, Halifax Co., VA Census
Frances W. Womack, age 56
Mary C. Womack, age 21
Thomas Womack, age 19 (where was he in 1850?)
William M. Womack, age 17 (William Miles)
Emily Womack, age 13
Unnamed Womack, age 2 (Jefferson Davis Womack, Mary C.'s child by Little John McCargo)

1870 Ceredo Twp., Wayne Co., WV
William Womack, age 25 b. VA Farmhand (William Miles in the HH of Joe E. McCormick)

1880 Curry Twp Putnam Co., W VA
William Warmick, age 30, VA VA VA (William Miles)
Malvina Warmick, age 28, VA OH OH
Mary F Warmick, age 6, b. KENTUCKY

1900 Curry Twp., Putnam Co., W VA
William Womack, age 55, (b. Mar 1845) VA VA VA (died 1921)
Malvina Womack, age 50, (b. Oct 1849) W VA VA VA
Pearlie Womack, age 17 (b. Dec 1882) W VA
Thomas M. Womack, age 12 (b. Apr 1888) W VA (Dana's line)
Henry E. Womack, age 9, (b. Nov 1892)W VA

William and Malvina Womack are buried in Griffith Cemetery, Putnam Co., WV. Malvina Womack's maiden name was probably Manning.

1910 Census - Can't find Thomas M. on the 1910

1920 Precinct 7-Union, Dunbar Twp, Kanawha Co., WV (Josephine Street)
Thomas M. Womark, age 32 W VA VA VA
Ida Womark, age 23 (Ida Annis McLaughlin)
Arthur Womark, age 6
Virginia Womark, age 3-1/2
Eugene Womark, age 19 mos (Eugene Dana Womack, Sr.)

Note: Thomas M. Womack, b. 1 Apr 1888, d. Feb 1979, age 90 Dunbar, Kanawha Co., WV Source SS Death Index

Note: Eugene Dana Womack, Sr., b. 18 Apr 1918, d. 15 Jan 1989, age 70 Lakeland, Polk Co., FL Source SS Death Index

I also have some data on Thomas Womack, son of Miles Womack and Frances Hawkins. He removed to Putnam Co., W VA. He also had a William Miles Womack. Thomas's son, Sidney Morgan Womack was the father of the Dana Womack, who Royce found on the 1930 Jefferson, Kanawha Co., W VA census. If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll post it.


Tuesday, April 19, 2005 at 19:33:34 (PDT)
Dana Womack
dana_ohare@yahoo.com

Thank you Beth for all of your information. It is so cool to know about my Womack side of the family that I've never known. It's just too bad I don't have any aunts, uncles or cousins to ask questions too since my father was an only child. Thanks again.
I don't know if I posted the information before but if anyone is keeping a current record of up to date Womacks, I can post my brothers info too.
Thanks again.
Dana


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Wednesday, April 20, 2005 at 00:17:09 (PDT)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

OK, I am going to do something I wouldn't usually do and ask someone NOT to post something. The Advertisments for cigs or anything else do not really belong here. Forgive me if I am oversteping my bounds, but what do these ads have to do with our 'family'? Thanks.

Erin


Wednesday, April 20, 2005 at 00:25:21 (PDT)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

Hey Tammy,

I don't know for sure why they named them both with the middle name of Jefferson. I'm still working on that one. I do know that William went by Will and Thomas went by Jeff though.

My mother, just today, got an envelope of stuff from Roselyn. I has the obit. for William Jefferson Womack in it! I was thrilled as I have never seen it before. It has a picture and information in it! She also sent a copy of Johnson/Johnston Womacks pension application for Rev. War!

I was excited to finally get something new! Any family that is interested in copies let me know and I will scan them in and send them email. Just drop me a line and let me know! Always willing to share what I have to help out!

Erin


Wednesday, April 20, 2005 at 07:36:36 (PDT)
Elizabeth
southernfamilytree@yahoo.com

Hey,
Looking for some information....My gggggrandfather was Willliam Womack (1736-1819) and his wife Mary Allen (1746). I am looking for information on there parents and however far back some one has information. Need it to complete my family tree on the Womack side. thank you elizabeth


Wednesday, April 20, 2005 at 12:00:09 (PDT)
Sandi Phillips
sphillips@tucsonairport.org

Thank You Erin

Some people have a lot of nerve - or just plain do not have any common sense - I don't need to stop smoking and I don't intend to start - so I wish they would take their advertisements to someone who cares....

Sandi


Wednesday, April 20, 2005 at 12:51:20 (PDT)
Doretta
dreec@EKNS.net

Hi Beth --- Glad to hear from you. I have been reading postings and thinking about the data but I have taken sometime out on the MILES WOMACK line. Too many dead ends and brick walls. I tried to run the SELF and HAGAR/HAGER lines (who are somewhat connected to ARCHIBALD WOMACK), but I got no-where on the computor. I gave up trying to hack on the computor and took up weed hacking in the garden. I have been having more success doing weed hacking, but it is harder on this old lady. I would love to get back to working on WOMACKS but I am still trying to figure out what wall that just might crumble. Anybody got any ideas to share? Let me add that MILES WOMACK's wife FRANCES HAWKINS was daughter of LABAN HAWKINS born about 1760 Amelia Co VA died about 1820 and wife CATHERINE McGEHEE born June 1771 Cumberland Co VA died 23 Oct 1842 Halifax Co VA. FRANCES and MILES married abt 1826 (4 July 1826 Halifax Co VA?) and LABAN and CATHERINE married abt 1784 VA. In typing the name CATHERINE, I wonder if MARY C. WOMACK's middle name could be CATHERINE and named after her grandmother? No proof. Just a thought. Dotetta


Wednesday, April 20, 2005 at 13:52:09 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Attn: Doretta I found this still looking for more

Laban Hawkins1,2 (M)
b. circa 1768, d. 18 May 1820
Laban was born at Virginia, circa 1768.3 He married Catherine McGehee on 30 December 1784.2 Laban died on 18 May 1820,,.2 Laban's will was probated on 24 July 1820.4



Children of Laban Hawkins and Catherine McGehee:
Martin Hawkins
John Hawkins
Nancy R. "Annie" Hawkins d. b 1842
Elizabeth B. Hawkins
Sarah M. Hawkins
Frances W. Hawkins
Martha M. Hawkins
Tazewell M. Hawkins
Joel Hawkins+ d. 31 May 1830
Royall Hawkins b. a 30 Jun 1840
Citations

[S394] DAR National # 196732.
[S3] Walter H Millard - Katie LaRee Millard, Family Group Sheet.
[S484] 1880, U.S. Census.
[S12] Testator Labau Hawkins, Dated 1/27/1820; probated 7/24/1820
Will Book 11:639.

Catherine McGehee1 (F)
b. 1771, d. circa November 1842
Pop-up Pedigree
Catherine was born at Virginia, in 1771.2 She was the daughter of William McGehee and Catherine (mcgehee). She married Laban Hawkins on 30 December 1784.1 Catherine died circa November 1842,,.1 Catherine's will was probated on 28 November 1842.3



Children of Catherine McGehee and Laban Hawkins:
Martin Hawkins
John Hawkins
Nancy R. "Annie" Hawkins d. b 1842
Elizabeth B. Hawkins
Sarah M. Hawkins
Frances W. Hawkins
Martha M. Hawkins
Tazewell M. Hawkins
Joel Hawkins+ d. 31 May 1830
Royall Hawkins b. a 30 Jun 1840
Citations

[S3] Walter H Millard - Katie LaRee Millard, Family Group Sheet.
[S484] 1880, U.S. Census.
[S11] Catherine McGehee, Dated 6/30/1849; probate 11/28/1842
Will Book 20:129.


Wednesday, April 20, 2005 at 17:59:33 (PDT)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

Food for thought:

I've been trying to find the maiden name of both Carter Womack's wife and his father Thomas' wife.

What if Thomas' wife's name was CARTER and Carter's wife's name was Jordon. These are both new names to the line and would follow some previous patterns.

Just a thought.


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Thursday, April 21, 2005 at 02:50:05 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Stumbled onto this Sam and Roger might have this alrdy

RUTHERFORD COUNTY, NC - DEEDS - Deed Index "W-X-Y-Z", 1779-1917
Sorted by Grantee (Whitehead - ZVJOLLYCo)


Bright, LJ & T. / Womack, AB / Mtg/H-3/464/1904
Eakin, John / Womack, Abner / Deed/24-26/665/1812
Enloe, Abraham / Womack, Abner / Deed/24-26/90/1807
Franklin, John / Womack, Abner / Deed/24-26/689/1912
Melton, Joshua / Womack, Andrew / Deed/25/21/1809
Bostic, Samuel E. / Womack, Asa B. / Deed/65/251/1892
Green, Harriett & GW / Womack, Grover / Deed/97/348/1913
Coffey, HE & OE / Womack, JE / Deed/102/545/1916
Carpenter, JH / Womack, John B. / Deed/48/505/1865
Bryan, AR / Womack, John E. / Deed/92/503/1909
McClure, Annie & JA / Womack, LB / Deed/90/594/1909
Butler, BR & LA / Womack, LL / Deed/103/284/1916
Carpenter, Laura & WG / Womack, PG / Mtg/U-4/55/1915
Eaves, AJ / Womack, PG / Deed/105/278/1916
McDaniel, AH & TL / Womack, PG / Deed/57/402/1885
Mosley, GR & PW / Womack, PG / Mtg/C/313/1890
Mosley, John / Womack, PG / Mtg/G/574/1895
Buttler, Deliliah & Richard / Womack, Phillip / Deed/57/400/1885
Buttler, Deliliah & Richard / Womack, Phillip / Deed/57/400/1885
Jones, Alpha V. & WB / Womack, TB / Deed/95/321/1912
Martin, Dorie & TP / Womack, TB / Deed/95/321/1912
Eaves, Guilford & NL / Womack, Thomas / Deed/54/102/1877
Camp, Thomas / Womack, William / Deed/11-Oct/91/1798
Coxe, Tench / Womack, William / Deed/25/257/1810
Duponcean, Peter S. / Womack, William / Deed/25/257/1810
Fisher, Peter / Womack, William / Deed/25/257/1810
Kintzing, Abraham, Jr. / Womack, William / Deed/25/257/1810
Calton, TF / Womack, Willis / Prom Note/D/109/1891
Jolly, John / Womack, Willis / Deed/44/509/1843
Coxe, Francis S. & Tench C. / Womick, AB / Deed/64/561/1891
Coffey, HE & Othie / Womick, John / Deed/82/136/1905
Coffey, HE & Othie / Womick, John / Deed/84/16/1905
Carpenter, MG & LT / Womick, PG / Mtg/T/275/1914


Friday, April 22, 2005 at 05:57:12 (PDT)
Doretta
dreec@EKNS.net

Help Sam --- Thanks for the password. I think it is a good idea to have one to keep from being buged by persons who are troule makers, but I don't know how to use it. Is it used so I can receive E-Mail from you? Please help me. This computer stuff is sometimes overwhelming. Doretta Also I don't know about those paper clips either.


Friday, April 22, 2005 at 11:25:24 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Doretta
I dont remember sending you anything concerning a password -- copy and paste that message and send to me at my e-mail address shown here - pls dont forward - copy and paste -- Methinks it be good you dont know how to use what you got -
Someone may be spoofing my address --
Sam


Friday, April 22, 2005 at 11:57:11 (PDT)
Doretta
deec@EKNS.net

OK Sam, will do like you say, but give me a little while. I need to look up how to copy and paste first. Doretta


Friday, April 22, 2005 at 12:46:51 (PDT)
Doretta
dreec@EKNS.net

Sam --- I am having trouble doing that copy and paste thing. Do you want me to send it to you by snail mail? Contact me by E-Mail. Doretta


Friday, April 22, 2005 at 16:24:05 (PDT)
Doretta
dreec@EKNS.net

Hi Sam, Derrell, Beth and all of you interested in Miles Womack's line. --- But first Sam let me say that I am still willing to send you that page by snail mail if you want it. That was a dirty trick on both of us that someone did by using a spin on your e-mail address. At first I thought it was yours until I read your posting. Then I checked that address against yours that you posted. Thats when I found the little differences like the "n" between "sam" and "saw". I still don't know how to use passwords, but that is OK with me for now. I guess it saved me a lot of trouble not knowing. ----- Derrell --- Thanks for that stuff you sent. Laban Hawkins' Will is interesting. Although it does not say in the source just what Frances received from her father, it does say that John and his brother Royal Hawlins are to take care of their mother. She was to be supported out of Laban's estate as long as she lived. Laban died in 1820 which was before Frances married Miles Womack in 1826. I have often wondered who the older female was in Miles Womack's household in 1830. She was not there in 1840. Anyway I don't think the female was Frances' mother Catherine, but I can't be sure until I find John and/or Royal Hawkins on the 1830 and 1840 censuses to see if they really did take care of their mother. Catherine didn't die until 1842 and if she is in their household, then the older female in Miles Womack's household is likely his father's wife. That is a guess on my part. Does anyone have any other idea who she might be? Can anyone tell me how to get the different censuses on the computer so I can do some checking? Doretta


Friday, April 22, 2005 at 16:26:45 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Doretta,
Place your cursor over the message - drag until highlighted - then go to edit, click on copy - bring up an e mail send - the go to the body of the mail, clic and get the cursor or whatever flashing and then b ack to edit and hit paste..
Should put that in a new message -- then address to me -- and send
Need thia resolved quicker that snail -- \
sam


Friday, April 22, 2005 at 19:29:04 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Doretta
OK just remember before sending me mail the space between the @ and msn have to be removed - if they aint there from tis page - aint me -

I rrarely post here any more as when I do people tend to hold off for 3-5 days for some reason before they do anything -- gbut that one needed addressing right away -

Anyway, people want info from me - send person to person - I will not post here because of past experience - the rest of you, post as you will - I wont bite..


Saturday, April 23, 2005 at 10:18:16 (PDT)
Doretta
dreec@ EKNS.net

Sam --- Thanks again for that copy and paste tip. We are always interested in tips. That tip helped don to at last figure out only the message part (which was only the password) would copy and not the data in the address space. (By the way Sam, he typed the address wrong for you. That "B" between the "WHAT" and the "EVER" should have been "G". He also forgot to type the attach: lower case letters data that was in the address space.) Anyway Sam I don't send E-Mail often since we are on one phone line. I must run my husband out of his comfort space and use his computer. In time we will get two lines, but for now while I am still learning the computer, one line works. Like a five year old, I love getting mail anytime, so if you or anyone wants to E-Mail me, please do. I need some more pratice on Don' computer. Sam, and all of you other reachers, I was checking out Miles Womack's wife's family conections. Frances Hawkins Womack's grandfather was Joseph Hawkins. Joseph's sister, Keturah Hawkins married William Childress/Childers who was the grandson of Philomen Childers. Now Philomen Childers was the grandson of Henry Pew/Pugh and Jane Womack. Also Philomen Childers' niece was Nancy Ann Childress who married a Womack. That Womack was either William or Jacob Womack or she could have married both. I don't know nor do I myself have any proof, but I thought these family connections were very interesting. I wanted to pass my thoughts on to those of you who have worked on these families and might have proof or clues. I am always looking for clues on how Miles Womack might fit into the overall Womack picture. I am interested in what all you researchers think. Lots of you have or know how to get data. What you think is important in how Miles Womack fits into the Womack overall picture. That overall connection is out there just waiting to be found. Any ideas, thoughts or proof on Miles' connections, I welcome. You can post here or E-Mail me. I so do want to see Miles placed in the overall Womack picture. Thanks again Sam for your help. Doretta


Saturday, April 23, 2005 at 12:03:04 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Doretta,

Nancy Ann Childers, daughter of Henry Childers, married Richard Womack, III. Their son was Maj. Jacob. Even researchers who worked on this family some time ago have Childress and Childers for Nancy's name.

One thought on the older female in Miles's household in 1830.....Frances's sister, Elizabeth, b. ca. 1799, didn't marry James Bottom until 1836.


Saturday, April 23, 2005 at 15:47:40 (PDT)
Doretta
dreec@EKNS.net

Beth --- Elizabeth, the sister of Frances isn't a bad guess, but she is too young. That eldery woman in Miles Womack's household in 1830 was born about 1760-1770. Miles and Frances were born about 1800-1810. By the way, with Major Jacob Womack being Richard (the third)'s son, that puts Jacob in Keturah Hawkins' generation. Doretta


Saturday, April 23, 2005 at 16:47:59 (PDT)
dcox
dcox@kerrlake.com

Doretta & Beth,

The female age 60 to 70 may be Miles' mother, Rebecca. Miles's father died about 1829. Rebecca was still alive in 1832. This is from Mark Womack's research.

Doris


Sunday, April 24, 2005 at 10:18:51 (PDT)
Doretta
dreec@EKNS.net

Doris --- Thanks for that data on Rebecca. Do you, Mark or any other researcher have any idea where Miles' parents are buried? To me, it seems likely that they are buried in Halifax Co. VA somewhere. Maybe even in this cemetery. When Frances Hawkins Womack (wife of Miles) died before March 1866, land was surveyed then to be divided up between their children. One of the lots was #4 with 30 and 1/2 acres. The 1/2 acre was reserved around the graveyard as a family burying ground. This lot description begins at the railroad bridge (over Difficult Creek?) and goes along the railroad where it makes a corner with lot #3. Lot #3 contained the mansion house and it went to daughter Cordelia Womack Meens. Lot #4 was allotted to the heirs of Burras Womack dec'd. I don't know for sure, but I think Burras is son David B. Womack who died in 1858 at age 11. I could be wrong on who Burras is, but there should be a court record of somekind as to who did receive the family graveyard. Do you or any other researcher know who got that graveyard? I am interested in all who are buried there. I have no information on what name the cemetery was known by. Also I would like to add that the data that I have seems not to be complete. Laban G Womack seems to have been left out of the land division. If that is true, then why was he left out? Are there court records on him. Also does anyone know when the railroad bought their land near Clover and from whom? Doretta


Sunday, April 24, 2005 at 11:49:06 (PDT)
Tammy
willys41.1@juno.com

Hi Derrell,

Well, here we go......I sent you LOTS of info. and was happy to do so. And you sent me info. on your W. J. Womack's line, who as we know, was a brother to my direct Womack Ancestor 'Thomas Jefferson Womack', which most of I already had, thanks for my cousin Erin. But the point really is, that I truly appreciated everything you sent me. The only instance where I asked you not to share was, as you know, was when it pertained to personal letters that I sent you copies of that were written by MY Womack kinfolk, one to the other. That, I did not have to share with you, but did so, because I thought you might enjoy reading them. Those, I feel, are personal and precious letters of correspondence between my Womacks. If I asked you not to share certain info. I sent you, then it was only because it must have been personal correspondence dating back many years ago between my Womacks, that has been handed down to me, yes, by a cousin. I just sent it to you thinking that you might really enjoy reading it. The other info., which by the way, was a lot of info., that I sent you, and I have no problem with you sharing it. My husband and I have recently moved across Country and many of my Genealogical files are still boxed up. I just haven't had the time to unload them yet. Hopefully I'll get around to that very soon. I am never hesitant to share information and always do so with a 'glad heart'. I may be slow these past few months in doing so, but only because my days and weeks are now so busy.

Cousin Erin, thank you so much for the copy of William J.'s obituary! I was so excited and thrilled to receive that from you. Forgive me for being so late in thanking you. I have a brand new grandbaby, my first grandchild actually, and I'm now babysitting him every day during the week, as my daughter had to go back to work. The days seem to really fly by now. *smile* Will be in touch with you soon! Lenore says Hello and we'll be visiting soon at our Boatman Reunion in June in New Mexico.
love Tammy


Sunday, April 24, 2005 at 20:40:57 (PDT)
Lexy Womack
www.womack@hotmail.org

I just found out that my greatgrandpa is leanes cousin im 12 years old.


Monday, April 25, 2005 at 14:26:10 (PDT)
dcox
dcox@kerrlake.com

Doretta,

Corrections and additions welcomed. I hope I haven't confused my directions when referring to north, south, east, and west. I didn't try to be as accurate as to indicate northwest, southeast, ect.

>where Miles' parents are buried<
Mark, a friend of Marks from the local area, my husband and I walked over part of Lots #3 & 4. There are no headstones, not even rocks indicating graves only sunken places and the plant that grows over graveyards (I forget the name of the plant). I have no idea if any of Miles Womack's Family are buried here, but there are indications that a graveyard exist on Lot #4 or maybe it is Lot #3. I also don't know if the home was built by Miles or was already there when he and Frances inherited the property from the Laban Hawkins' Estate. Only feet west of the graveyard was a large sunken place which we surmised was the location of the home. Both the home and the graveyard are only feet from the railroad tracks. Lots #3 & 4 are approximately 1/2 mile following the driveway into the Lot and is off Highway #360. There is a road to the west closer to Lots #3 & 4 but no driveway to enter off that I could find when my husband and I went back later.

While looking over my records to answer your questions, I realized I didn't have Frances Womack's death notice. I rechecked the death records for 1866 and she is not listed even though there are many listed for 1866. I think she probably died during the years of the Civil War and from what I know almost no deaths were recorded during that time period.

I have nothing in my records for Labon G. Womack except for his birth date which is about 1843 and comes from the 1850 Halifax Co VA Census when he was 7 years old.

Regarding David Burras Womack I have the following. The name Burras comes from the McGehee Family. His maternal grandmother was a McGehee.

Note: Nathan Womack born about 1746 of Cumberland Co VA married Anna McGehee of Cumberland Co VA on 25 February 1775 in Cumberland Co VA. Anna's parents were Edward McGehee and Elizabeth DeJarnette. I don't believe this will tell us much from where Miles Family fits into the larger Womack Family; however, every clue is worth further research.

Back to David Burras Womack. "The Heirs of Burras Womack as the Grantee with the Grantor being the "Estate of Miles Womack with the kind of deed being "part interest in" Deed Book 60 Page 485 dated 28 May 1866 concerning 30 1/2 acres. From this deed is the hand drawn map of the land division of the Heirs of Miles Womack.

The railroad splitting the property runs east to west. On the south side of the railroad are Lots #1 & 2 with Lot #1 lying west of Lot #2. Lot #1, 40 acres deeded to William Womack. Lot #2, 37 acres deeded to Thomas Womack.

On the north side of the railroad are the remaining lots. Beginning near the railroad on the north side is Lots #3 & 4. Lot #3 deeded to Theoderick Meems and wife Cordelia (Womack). Lot #3 is listed as lot with house and is within Lot #4. Lot #4, 30 1/2 acres deeded to Heirs of Burras Womack with a Family Burial ground located on Lot #4. So, I am not sure whether Cordelia or Burras owned the burial ground. I would need to read the deeds when the property was later sold to determine who owned the burial ground.

Proceeding north, Lot #5, 36 acres deeded to Mary Womack.

Lot #6, 40 acres deeded to Charles Smith and wife, Martha (Womack).

Lot #7, 40 acres deeded to William Arnold and wife, Emily (Womack).

Lot #8, 36 acres deeded to William Ritchie and wife, Elizabeth (Womack).

Lot #9, 33 acres deeded to James Womack.

Lot #10 20 acres deeded to Henry Womack.

This adds up to 312 1/2 acres.

Difficult Creek meanders along the entire west side of all lots and along at least part of the southern side of Lots #1 & 2.

"The Richmond Danville Railroad" dated 1847. I don't know if this is the start, completion, or operational date. The actual date of the section running through the Womack Estate I don't know.

Additional note - the time to walk the woods in VA is in the months between heavy frost and before Spring. We have ticks, the large ones are not so bad as they are easily felt and seen on the body; however, we have very tiny ones which are terrible. And if one is unlucky enough to step in a bed of them, by the time you realize they are on you, they have "dug in". January and February are good months to research graveyards and our winters in VA are mild except for a couple of days here or there.

Doris


Monday, April 25, 2005 at 15:56:07 (PDT)
dcox
dcox@kerrlake.com

Doretta,

After thought on Laban G. Womack - In 1850 Laban is listed as age 5 - maybe he died between 1850 and the start of the death records of Halifax Co VA which I think was 1853.

>Also does anyone know when the railroad bought their land near Clover and from whom?<

A small point: I believe this 312 1/2 acres would be considered located in the Scottsburg area rather than Clover.

I have all the Womack Deed index (thanks to Mark Womack) for grantor and grantee and there is no deed from a Womack to the railroad for this land. Either it was not deeded or it was deeded prior to the Womacks owning the land.

Doris


Monday, April 25, 2005 at 20:29:42 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Doretta
I am assuming interrment in a family plot rather than a church cemetery - If I remember, by federal law, all interments prior to the 1914 death records thang, had to be recorded in church records - I am sure we all realize, lazy recorders and illiterates and ne'er do wells, didnt do that - well not all of them anyway - but from my experience, the recording in church records was lousy at best - bar none - I am not Catholic; but the best records were probably kept by the Catholic church in the area -- If they were buried in a Catholic cemetery -

Half the time, or less, the people who survey cemeteries DO NOT actually check the church records; merely the stones in the cemetery -- and those who post that info, sans real fact - are quite amiss and should not be posting genealogy data to the net-- I know where my immediate family is in the cemetery - the church does not!! Some greats and great greats I know approximately where they are; but, not the specific plot...church records should show that - they dont -

Perhaps a funeral home in the area may, at best, have some records....pray on that one!!


Monday, April 25, 2005 at 20:47:48 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Does anyone have any suggestions for the father of Francis Womack?

1840 Roll 48, Town Dist, Newton Co., GA
Francis L. Womack, age 20-29
Female, age 20-29
Female, age 15-19

1850 Covington P O, Newton Co., GA
Francis Womack, age 34, b. GA
Nancy, age 23, b. GA
William, age 9, b. GA
Francis, age 7, b. GA
John, age 2, b. GA

1860 Covington P O, Newton Co., GA
In the household of J. B. Mabry
F. S. Womack, age 40, b. GA Occu: Clerk (widower)
Francis Womack, Jr. age 17 Occu: Printer
Martha Reb (Rebecca?), age 13

1870 Covington P O, Newton Co., GA
F. S. Womack, age 54, b. GA
Martha F. Womack, age 28, b. GA (second wife)
John M. Womack, age 20, b. GA
Iola E. E. Womack, age 13, b. GA
Valentine M. Womack, age 6, b. GA
Sarah Sorrows (Sorrells?), age 9, b. GA (step dau?)
Jesse W. Womack, age 4, b. GA
Thomas F., age 1, b. GA

1880 Twp. 9, De Kalb Co., AL
Martha WOMMAC Self W Female W 37 GA Kpg House GA GA
Valentine WOMMAC Son S Male W 15 GA Wks on Farm GA GA
Jessee W. WOMMAC Son S Male W 13 GA Wks on Farm GA GA
Thomas F. WOMMAC Son S Male W 11 GA Wks on Farm --- ---
Anna B. WOMMAC Dau S Female W 7 AL None --- ---

1900 Brindley Twp., De Kalb Co., AL
Jesse Wommack, age 32, b. Oct 1868 AL SC SC Farmer
Allice C. Wommack, age 28, b. Oct 1872 AL GA GA
Dollie M. Wommack, age 9, b. May 1891 AL AL AL
Evel Wommack, age 6, b. Aug 1893 AL AL AL
Leona Wommack, age 8 mos., b. Sep 1899 AL AL AL

Francis's son, Jesse Wahn Womack, married Alice Jolly and lived in Wichita Falls, Wichita Co., TX.


Tuesday, April 26, 2005 at 00:45:42 (PDT)
Rustam Iralin
roustamlds84@hotmail.com



I am planning on going to BYU in winter 2006. I really want to study in your university because it is a very good a school.
Recently I was told that I could not be accepted to either BYU-Provo or BYU-Idaho without submitting an affidavit of support. My parents cannot really help me with finances; they are very poor to make it so i am trying to find some ways to get admitted to your school. Few weeks ago I connected with some people from scholarship Department and they said they would like to give me a scholarship covering educational expenses only if i have been accepted. As you once told me i could not be accepted without any money to pay tuition. So here comes a question: can you accept me FIRST so i could get my scholarship and begin studying? I have friends in USA who can sponsor me with only $ 5,000-6,000. But they need me to be accepted first to BYU to make sure they will pay for a “real” student.
I really need it. I have studied in university for 2 years here in Russia and I know what studying at the university is in reality and how it much differs from studying in a high school. My classes were really hard and i tried to give my best to pass exams and get credits and at the same time get to serve at church and do some school and leadership activities. And I feel so sad that i cannot enter BYU which is the best school i have ever known only because i don’t have enough money. I know you would say there are millions of talented students like me and they all want to get better education. But we are all different. Studying at BYU i can bring a lot of experiences i got here in Russia, something special. I have many talents and experiences i would like to share with the students there.
I have been trying to enter BYU for a year and I should have given up because all sponsors i had before just suddenly refused to help me after they promised they would. Of course it hurt a lot but i knew that it was just a Plan of Heavenly Father for me to get these trials so i could learn something important. So i did not give up and i believe i won’t because education at BYU means too much to me now. So please help me find a way to make it right; please give a chance to realize myself, like who i am and what kind of person i can be. I would be so grateful to you for any information. I am looking forward to hearing from you soon. Thanks a lot.

Rustam Iralin


Wednesday, April 27, 2005 at 10:06:35 (PDT)
Sandra Myers Bellflower
sfmbellflower@yahoo.com

Womack / Calls

Does anyone have any connections between Womacks and Calls in Coffee County Tennessee? Thank you advance.


Thursday, April 28, 2005 at 00:41:22 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

No Sandra but r u looking for something in particular perhaps I can give ya hand finding some info.


Thursday, April 28, 2005 at 09:07:53 (PDT)
Anne Swann
anneswann7@yahoo.com

Has anyone out there heard of "Womack's Fort" located somewhere near Second Broad River in what was once Burke County, NC (now McDowell County)? From old Burke County land records: "#1494, p. 494, Alexander Erwin, 100 acres on Second Broad River, including Womack's Fort. Entered 8 Jan. 1779. Transferred to Mary Bradly." Also "#1803, p. 599. Thomas Bradly, 300 acres on Second Broad River inclding both sides of the river and a 'shole' and Womacks old place for complement. Entered 25 Nov. 1778." I have no idea which Womack may have owned this property originally, but am still investigating. Just thought someone might have heard of the "Fort". FYI: A Johnson Womack joined Rev. War effort in old Burke Co. in 1780, not many miles from Second Broad River area. Later moved to Madison Co. Ark. Many thanks for any info.

Anne Swann
Marion, NC


Thursday, April 28, 2005 at 11:57:24 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Anne,

Thank you very much for this valuable information. We knew from Johnson's RW pension app that he was in Burke Co., but hadn't found this record. Johnson was the son of Maj. Jacob Womack. The fort in Burke Co. could have also been built by Jacob. He and his family probably migrated to TN from that area. Jacob built "Womack's Fort" in what is now Washington Co., TN, east of the Holston River. Based on the following info found in TN, the time frame is correct:

"HISTORY OF JONESBOROUGH, TN: Jonesborough is the oldest town in Tennessee, established in 1779 by the General Assembly of North Carolina as county seat of Washington County, first county west of the mountains. In 1784 the State of Franklin was organized here, with Jonesborough as its first capital. In 1775 the settlers on both the Watauga and Nolichucky Rivers purchased great acreages of land from the Cherokee Indians, comprising almost all the six upper counties of the present Tennessee (then within North Carolina). Desiring their own government, these settlers petitioned the Provincial Council of North Carolina to be annexed as an official entity. In 1777 the "County of Washington" was formed. The first meeting to decide the location of the new courthouse was at the home of Charles Robertson, and it was decided that John Carter, Andrew Greer, William Cobb, Jacob Womack, George Russell, John Sevier and James Stuart would lay out the plans and location of the new courthouse.

HISTORY OF TN BY GOODSPEED
pg 894: Washington County was laid off by an act of the Legislature of North Carolina, passed in Nov 1777, and was made to include the whole of the territory afterward erected into the State of TN. One of the first magistrates appointed was Jacob Womack. The first session of the court of pleas and quarter sessions was begun and held on 23 Feb 1778: Jacob Womack was appointed stray master. Jacob Womack was one of those appointed to make return of the taxable property. At the Nov term, 1778 Jacob Womack was appointed one of the Commissioners to lay off the place for erecting the courthouse, prison & stocks.

(Note: Jacob went with General John Sevier (later Gov. Sevier) to the NC Legislature to petition for this land. Gen. Sevier appointed Jacob Second Major of his troups. These troups became the "Overmountain Men" in the RW and fought among other places in the Battle of King's Mountain.)

pg 913: Fort Womack, which stood two miles east of Bluff City, was built by Jacob Womack. Biographical TN General Assembly 1796-1861 G9293 Mch.

Jacob Womack 1746, Lunenburg., VA, son of Richard, one of the first Magistrates of Washington Co. 1777; Straymaster 1778; Justice of Washington Co. 1778-80; Kings Mountain Men G973336 Red Book.

From Haywood’s History of TN, pg 61 The Wommack Fort was built about the latter part of Jul 1776, east of the Holston (river), ten or twelve miles above the mouth of the Watauga."

I would appreciate it very much if you could provide the web site where your data was found.

Thanks again, Anne.

Beth


Thursday, April 28, 2005 at 12:49:51 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

The other possibility for the builder of Womack's Fort in Burke Co., NC is Thomas Womack, husband of Louvisa Rice, who died there after 1781.

From Roger's web page:

"History: Thomas had a Fort, called Womack Fort, in Burke Co., NC., Reference to it is made in Lincoln Co. Deeds. They were in Burke Co., NC before Rutherford Co., NC., was formed. Most records of Burke Co., NC are lost. From WG 1957-1960, furnished by W.P. Johnson, Genealogist of Raleigh, NC (deceased). From Burke Co., NC., Miscellaneous Papers (C.R. 14.099 in the Archives & History, Raleigh, NC.) St. No. Carolina: I promise to pay or cause to payd unto Thomas Womack or his order the full and just sum of fore hundred pounds good and lawful money of North Carolina, it being for value received. Witness my hand and seal this 28th day of Januy in one thousand seven hundred and eighty. Test: Oliver Spadlin... Jon Ragsdale. Revolutionary War Pay Vouchers (see pg 358 of the Dec1957 issue of THE NORTH CAROLINIAN). Thomas Womack of Burke Co., NC., dated 1781. Thomas Womack must have died in Burke Co., NC., as there are no further Records until Louvisa Appeared on the 1790 census in Rutherford Co., NC., with her family."


Thursday, April 28, 2005 at 13:35:01 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Somewhere, I do have to look in my photo files, I have a photo of a historical marker for a Womack's Fort - but, if I am not mistaken, this one was in TN,not NC... when I find - will post and anyone wanting a copy can e mail me -- please only after I find the dang thang again!!

OH yes, for those of you who are descendants of Thomas and Louvisa - the info you sent me for the update to Oscar's book was lost in a crash - can you resend?
I have some on a disc, but no where near what I had on the computer when it dumped... Thanks


Thursday, April 28, 2005 at 15:59:29 (PDT)
David Womack
dwwomack1959@comcast.net

Found this on the web with a Google search:

Womack's Fort Militia Roll, 1776
Capt. Jacob Womack's Company
Fincastle County, Virginia
(now Sullivan County, Tennessee)

So I guess when the fort was built, it was built on land in Virgnia that later became part of Tennessee.

Here is the Link:
http://www.tngenweb.org/revwar/counties/sullivan1776.html

David


Thursday, April 28, 2005 at 22:44:21 (PDT)
dcox
dcos@kerrlake.com

Beth,
Also address this to anyone who can help clarify how many Jacob Womacks born in the 1740 time period and which data belongs to which Jacob.

Beth wrote: >Johnson was the son of Maj. Jacob Womack<

The following information I have is all from various internet postings.

I have two Jacob Womacks born about 1740.

Jacob(1) with tile of "Major" I have married to Martha (unknown) with alternate names of his wife being a Mary (unknown) or Mary Wells. A daughter listed as Martha Womack married to Robert Bean. And they had a daughter, Martha Womack married to Levi Berry Womack.

This Jacob, I have with this data, it is obvious the data can't be for just one Jacob Womack. Most likely I placed some of it under this Jacob until I could determine which Jacob:
*1740 Born about 1740 in VA; Parents as ?Richard Womack III & Anne Nancy Childers
*1752 Halifax Formed from Lunenburg Co VA
*1757 Jacob Womack a witness to the Will of David Flournoy of Prince Edward Co VA [Note: 1830 Cumberland Co VA a David Flournoy married Ann Womack.]
*1758 Virginia Colonial Militia, Lunenburg Co VA, Ensign
*1758 Virginia Colonial Militia, 1651-1776 Certificates.
County: Lunenberg County Date: Sep 1758
Name: Jacob Womack Rank: Ensign
*1758 Virginia Colonial Militia, 1651-1776 Certificates.
County: Lunenberg County Date: Sep 1758
Name: Jacob Womack Rank: Sergeant
*1761 Deed Book 7 Page 141 Lunenburg Co VA 2 Sep 1761 Between Jacob Womack of the province of North Carolina and Samuel Comer of the County of Lunenburg land in the Parish of Cornwall (Charlotte Co VA) in the County of Lunenburg 175 acres. [Note: Mary Whitlock Wills Cole's Will, dated 1818 mentions a daughter Letty Comer}
*1764 Jacob Womack Nov 28 Poll List Halifax Co VA
*1764 Residence Orange Co NC [?Jacob P. Womack married to Nancy Faddis.]
*1765 Jacob Womack 17 Jul Poll List Halifax Co VA
*He was Major in the militia in East Tenn.
*1772 One of 13 commissioners for Watauga Settlement.
*1777 Washington Co VA Captain Jacob Womack makes oath that the within is a just Pay Roll of the men called into Duty under his Command signed Thomas Maddison 4th February 1777.
*1777 June 9th Received the amount of the within Pay Roll signed Jacob Womack
A true copy from the original lodged in the auditors office Wmsg. 29th Octr. 1778 Dun. Rose
*1790 Pendleton Co SC Page:10 Jacob Womack 52500
*1810 VA 1810 Federal Census Index Page: 342
Lunenburg Co VA WAMMOCK, JACOB 22010-21110-02 [?Jacob married to Mary Wills]
*1810 NC 1810 Federal Census Jacob Womack [?Jacob married to Nancy Faddis]
Orange Co NC Township: Hillsborough Page: 111
3rd. Col=1 All other col's. =0
*WAMUCK JACOB 12 AND 13 CONSOLIDATED REGIMENT, LOUISIANA MILITIA. PRIVATE PRIVATE Roll Box 218, Roll Exct 602

Jacob(2):

Peter Jacob Womack born Abt. 1737; Parents unknown
Married Sarah Johnson daughter of Joseph Johnson & Mary (unknown)
Residence: Goochland Co VA
Son: Johnson Womack born about 1762 Goochland Co VA
Information on Johnson Womack:
Military Service - Revolutionary War
*1780 Burke Co NC when called into Revolutionary War Service.
*Residence - Crawford Co AR, Lawrence Co AR, Madison Co AR, Washington Co AR, Pendleton Co S C, TN
*1837 Two Pension Applications for Revolutionary War.

There were two Jacob Womacks signing the WATAUGA PETITION - one was a member of the Committee and the other was a non-member. Source: "Tennessee Cousins" Author: Worth S. Ray

Doris


*1752 Halifax Formed from Lunenburg Co VA


Friday, April 29, 2005 at 05:36:30 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Doris,

From your list, I'll just tell you which ones are not Maj. Jake.

* [Note: Mary Whitlock Wills Cole's Will, dated 1818 mentions a daughter Letty Comer} Note: son of Alexander Womack, Jr.

*[?Jacob P. Womack married to Nancy Faddis.] Note: son of John Womack and Lucy Pryor

*1810 VA 1810 Federal Census Index Page: 342 Lunenburg Co VA WAMMOCK, JACOB 22010-21110-02 Note: son of Alexander Womack, Jr.

*[?Jacob married to Mary Wills] Note: son of Alexander Womack, Jr.

*1810 NC 1810 Federal Census Jacob Womack [?Jacob married to Nancy Faddis]
Orange Co NC Township: Hillsborough Page: 111
3rd. Col=1 All other col's. =0 Note: son of John Womack and Lucy Pryor

*WAMUCK JACOB 12 AND 13 CONSOLIDATED REGIMENT, LOUISIANA MILITIA. PRIVATE PRIVATE Roll Box 218, Roll Exct 602 Note: This is the War of 1812. He is probably Jacob Green Womack, son of David Womack and Mildred Pryor. Someone please correct me if this assumption is wrong.

*There were two Jacob Womacks signing the WATAUGA PETITION - one was a member of the Committee and the other was a non-member. Source: "Tennessee Cousins" Author: Worth S. Ray Note: The committeeman was Maj. Jake. The other.....probably one of his sons....don't think it was Johnson because he was with Captain Jonathan Kemp, Maj. Jake's brother-in-law. It could have been one of his other sons, John, Jesse, David or William.

Note: Maj. Jake could have been married to a Mary or Martha, but I've found no documentation. He married Sarah Johnson, of Lunenburg Co., VA, dau. of Joseph Johnson. Source: "The Johnson Report" by Harold Johnson. His last known record is:

From Grainger Co, TN court records 1796 - 1802 (WPA transacription at TN
State Archives) - several mentions of Jacob and David Womack. In one court
record, Jacob referred to as Major Jacob Womack. In another court record,
Jacob and David listed together as part of a jury to lay off a road. Source: Robert Burke.

I also found this very interesting:

WOMACK GENEALOGY pg 56: Washington Co., NC (now TN) File No.63 JACOB WOMACK 262 Acres, Washington Co., NC, 23 Sep 1778, Entry No. 433. 400 acres to Major JACOB WAMACK, on west side of Fains Branch, the waters of Little Lime Stone. Beginning at a white oak at the road that goes from the place where the said WAMACK formerly lived (now the property of Christopher Taylor) to Benjamin Gests. Surveyed 24 Mar 1779, 292 Acres for JACOB WAMACK on west side of Fain's Branch, Adj. W. Carter. Chain Carriers; Josiah & Francis Hamilton, Grant, No 231, issued 23 Oct 1782. Book 44 Pg. 260.

NOTE: Christopher Taylor was a Captain in the Rev. War. He moved his family to Washington Co,. TN. After the war. he settled on 205 acres of land on Limestone Creek. His 2 story log home still stands in Jonesboro, TN today. Andrew Jackson lived in the Taylor home from 1778-79 while practicing law in Jonesborough. Source: Chaster Johnson, P.O. Box 582, Hurst, TX. 76053-0582: "History of Washington County, Tenn."


Friday, April 29, 2005 at 05:58:36 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

This is also very confusing, but the Poll List is probably a tax list (we used to pay Poll Tax in our state):

*1764 Jacob Womack Nov 28 Poll List Halifax Co VA
*1764 Residence Orange Co NC

From Carlos Womack’s book:

"The following papers were found in an old box of papers, upstairs in the Courthouse, Farmville, VA. Margaret Womack, widow and Relict of Richard Womack dec'd. Plt against Richard and Jacob Womack Defts - In Chancery. (Prince Edward Co. order Book 1759-1765 p. 1)
"July 8, 1760 executed on Richard Womack , Jacob Womack no inhabitant. Margaret Womack, widow and Relict of Richard Womack, Jr. deceased Late of this county that your Oratrix in or about this month of June in the year of our Lord One thousand seven hundred and fifty three, intermarried with one Richard Womack, Jr. of the Co. of Lunenburg that Richard Womack Sen."

my notes above are in brackets < >


Friday, April 29, 2005 at 07:23:48 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser

I guess the excerpts from Carlos's book disappeared when I posted. It was regarding Margaret Archdeacon Cody Womack, widow of Richard Womack, IV, suing Richard III and Maj. Jake, indicating that Jacob was not a resident of the area in 1753.


Friday, April 29, 2005 at 11:29:37 (PDT)
Doretta
dreec@EKNS.net

Beth, Doris, Sam --- The boundry between N. Car and VA was run by Wm. Byrd II in 1728. The line began in the east and west, but Byrd's survey only extended west about 1/2 or maybe 2/3 of what is Virginia's line today. I don't know where he stopped. The line has been extended several times and is today also the boundry of Tenn and Ky. I just know bits and pieces of that Boundry Line Story and always interested in learning more of it. N. Car and Va were at each other throats for a long time over their land claims. In the 1700's both of them claimed land all the way to the Mississippi River. When Henderson wanted to make a treaty with the Indiand, he as a person could not do it under Va law and Va would not do it for land over the mountains. Henderson then went to the area claimed by both Va and N.Car and under N.Car law was able to make the treaty. Later before KY became a state, Va and N. Car settled their differences and Fort Boonesbourgh became Va land and then later in the State of Ky. --- The area of southwestern Va, the area that is now maybe Pittsylvania and other nearby counties seem to have had settlers early. Maybe it had some but not many when the area was formed as Brunswick County and Andrew Parish (ca1720-1732). Then it grew with settlers. Robert "Buster" Stevens says that by the year 1730 England was asking for more tobacco and they (Eng? VA?) began making liberal land grants to encourage men to move westward. One such grant of 40,000 acres was made (year not mentioned) to the Caldwell Settlement in Brunswick County, (later area of Charlotte Co) on Cub Creek and Staunton Rivers. Lunenburg Co and Cumberland Parish were formed in 1746. Maude Clement says Lunenburg Co included area that is area of present day counties of Patrick, Henry, Franklin, Bedford, Campbell, Pittsylvania, Halifax, Mecklenburg, Charlotte and Prince Edward. Then in 1752 a petition by inhabitants living in the forks of Dan and Staunton Rivers asked that Lunenburg be divided and so it was. The new area which had Staunton River and Blackwater Creek for its Northern boundry and extended westward to the mountains was named Halifax County. By this time there were lots more people living there. The courthouse was located at HALIFAX OLD TOWN (Peytonsburg, VA), also called OLD TOWN. The courthouse was built in 1759. Doretta


Friday, April 29, 2005 at 13:13:54 (PDT)
kevin
ktrueblood6214@sbcglobal.net

i am looking for any photos that people would share for my website for others to view in regards to the dejarnette families. alot of them married into the mcgehee family and i am looking for anything regarding hester or esther ann stith.


Friday, April 29, 2005 at 17:22:15 (PDT)
Parke Coleman Bogle
pbogle@psknet.com

Laban Coleman, born Abt. 1770, died in Lunenburg County, Va in 1849 or 1850; married Elizabeth Wormack, born abt. 1775, died before 1880; in Chesterfield County, VA on Oct. 19, 1797. They later moved to Lunenburg County where Laban's will is probated. Does anyone out there have information on this family? Parke Coleman Bogle


Friday, April 29, 2005 at 19:00:09 (PDT)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

Don't mean to preach to the chior here but thought I'd try to help.
Prior to the Revolution and likely for some time after - a fort was not necessarily a "military" thing. Prospectors and adventurers had "forts" to entice people to move west and they weren't always stockaded areas but at time natural forts (surrounded by cliffs on three sides or water). Powell's Fort near Winchester, VA is an example.

Having grown up in the South and West it was hard for me to understand why people in the mid 1700's were building houses on top of each other in the area where I now live. It was strickly for safety. They farmed "their land" a ways from their house so they could easily "circle the wagons" if the need arose.
Also, you might try looking at the very extensive history on the battle (political not hand to hand) for the state of "Franklin". I haven't but the area of TN you guys are mentioning for Fort Womack was very engaged in trying to become not Tennessee but Franklin.
One more point to the sermon, and I'll do the benediction - almost all of the original colonies (including Connecticut) claimed land to the Mississippi River since there charters usually said from sea to sea and the French or Spanish claimed everything west of the Miss. River.
Amen and someone please pass the collection plate. :)


Friday, April 29, 2005 at 19:01:03 (PDT)
Doretta
dreec@EKNS.net

Doris --- You helped me pinpoint about where Miles Womack family's land was located. I knew the Railroad was close but I didn't know it cut through the land, nor did I know its name. Don't go out in those weeds. We also have those pesty tick critters here in KY. I know you and Mark and others are working hard to figure out Miles and Henry's line and I do so want to Help. I found some web sites on the Richmond Danville Railroad. There seems to be 8 vol. of manuscript (MS84-133) at Virginia Tech in their Special Collections Dept. These records on this railroad include stockholders and director's minutes and correspondence, contracts, deeds, and reports. I don't know if it is possible to read this stuff on the computer. If it is possible I wouldn't mind reading it. That kind of stuff I digg. I don't yet know how to bring it up. But I did find Maude Carter Clement's AN ABBREVIATED HISTORY OF PITTSYVANIA COUNTY VA pub 1952. She says a railroad convention met in Danville VA in Oct 1835 and Whitmell P Tunstall (of Bellegrove Plantation) was represnting the area in VA Legislature and introduced a bill to charter thr R.R. They won their charter in 1847 and was then incorporated in VA. The first train arrived in Danville on June 19, 1856. Maude Clement says the first road was in 1747 laid out and cut from William Bean's plantation on the Dan River to the courthouse at Old Town. Doris, I checked adain in Roger C Dodson's PROPERTY LINES FROM AN OLD SURVEY BOOK 1741-1901. It is confusing trying to figure out his data on whom first owned the land and where. About where you say those lots were located I find a large survey for Peter Hudson (4 June 1751) 6,310 acres and for John Legrand (Ligon?) (4 Nov 1748) maybe 400 acres or more. Both of them on the Clover side of Difficult Creek near the railroad bridge. On the Scottsville side of Difficult Creek where the RR runs, there seems to be several smaller surveys to different men with the surname of Wall. All made in 1848 or 1849. But on the east side of the RR between there and the river I find a Joseph Nash (26 Aug 1825) 100 acres and two surveys for Hezekiah Blankenship (6 April 1825) 130 acres and (26 Aug 1825) 100 acres. Also last June 12 (2004) Teresa Womack Moore posted to WGN about a reunion for Zora Womack Conner and that she found J.D. Womack buried in a field. She said the headstone read March 31 1858 to Feb 7 1918 and also a headstone for Hugh Williams McCargo 1815-1845. I think the J.D. Womack is Jefferson Davis Womack. Her posting sounds like the graveyard you mention with lots 3 and 4. I don,t really know, just a guess on my part. (Don's Aunt Peggy (Porta) says Jeff is buried in Halifax Co VA and the graveyard has or did have an iron fence around it, but she couldn't tell me the name or the spot where it was.) The Hugh Williams McCargo mentioned is a brother of Jeff's father, Littlejohn S. McCargo who died in 1889 and left 1/2 of his land to Jeff. It is possible that the graveyard could have been Hawkins or McCargo or Womack since Jeff maybe could have gotten land from all. As I understand it, Jeff had at one time about 500 acres. When he died, his 2nd wife Lucy married 2nd an Edmundson and the land went under his control as the husband of Lucy. I might add that Mary's lot I think had a boundry with some McCargo's land. What McCargo, I don't know. I think she maybe died before 1880 but for sure before 1889. I am now trying to figure out how to find sites on history of the early churches and early ministers. Maybe I will get lucky and find where some early records are now. Doretta


Friday, April 29, 2005 at 20:17:38 (PDT)
dcox
dcox@kerrlake.com

Beth,

Thank you.

So, Peter Jacob Womack married to Sarah Johnson is the same individual as Major Jacob Womack, is that correct?

Doris


Saturday, April 30, 2005 at 02:49:53 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Doris,

Yes, that is correct. He might have also been married before. Martha, his dau. who married Capt. Robert Bean, was b. in 1758. According to Annette Carpenter Womack, she was born in Orange Co., NC. Johnson's RW pension app said he was born 1762 in Goochland Co., VA. I know Jacob and Sarah were married when her father died in 1761.

Beth


Saturday, April 30, 2005 at 09:53:13 (PDT)
Tammy
willys41.1@juno.com

Hello,

I finally got my boxes unpacked that contain my genealogy files. I found some copies of old receipts that were handed down to me by a Boatman cousin, L.S. These receipts may or may not be of any help to us. And some of you may already have these copies? I haven't had time yet to really study them or 'research' them. (except for a few of them) Some of the names of these receipts are Jacob Womack, Johnson Womack, etc. with various spellings of those first names. I'm going to scan them and put them all on a temporary webpage on my personal website. If anyone would like to view and copy/print these receipts from off my temp. webpage, just email me and I'll be happy to send you the link to the page. Hope they'll be of some help, regarding David Womack and his parents and grandparents, or maybe give us some clues or answer some questions. (Womack line - Thomas and William Jefferson's grandparents, etc. etc.) Some of the dates are from the 1700's, etc. Sorry it's taken me so long to do this, but with us moving and getting settled in our new home, AND with me now taking care of my new grandbaby, I just wasn't able to get to it any sooner. But this weekend, I'll be busy scanning them and getting them ready for you to look at.


Saturday, April 30, 2005 at 13:53:23 (PDT)
Kathy Womack Tucker
tonytucker@charter.net

BETH and all:
I've been trying to track down my Womack ancestors, and believe that I'm on the right track...not completely sure, tho. I haven't wanted to pay Ancestry for any help, but found the Womack Census Records at Sam's site. They have really given me some ideas.

I was searching for John S. Womack, hopefully in Cherokee Co., AL, and found him in the 1870 Census. He was grouped with Henry C., 26 (b. 1843); Frances, 22 (b. 1847); Amanda, 2; and Elisabeth, 4. Henry and Frances were both born in GA.

I then went to the 1850 Census in GA, and found Henry Wamack (age 6) and he was grouped with Jesse N. Wamack (b. 1818), Amanda M. (b. 1816 GA), William O., Ann R., Mary and Turner.

Had a heck of a time with Jesse's parents...could've been so many...but went to Rootsweb and found that Jesse would fit right in being William Womack and Rebecca Hunt's son (they married June 19, 1813 in Jasper Co., GA). Their other children were: Francis, William, Martha and Susan.

Maybe William's Francis is the one you're looking for...hope so! Everyone please keep on posting...I love it!


Saturday, April 30, 2005 at 19:41:00 (PDT)
dcox
dcox@kerrlake.com

Doretta,

The information on the railroad I got from the Library of Virginia web site. They have more information on the railroad but I don't believe it is in circulation which means you would need to view it at the library. You might check your local library to see if there are books which have been written whcich can be sent to your library on the interlibrary loan program. Mark was interested in the railroad also, but I don't know if he pursued it.

I doubt the graveyard on Lot 3 or 4 is where Jefferson Davis Womack is buried, because there are no headstones at this graveyard. Also, this graveyard is in trees not in a field. The home place is also in the trees. At the turn-in to the driveway, I believe Edmondsons live there today, but I don't know which one. The only Edmondsons I have any knowledge of were State Troopers over 30 years ago.

When you speak of the railroad bridge, are you speaking of the one on 360? If so, that bridge is a good ways from Miles Womacks place. If you are traveling towards Danville on 360, the farm is located between Clover and Scottsburg Center. After leaving Clover on Hwy 92, turn right onto 360 headed West, you will cross the railroad bridge, then you will cross the bridge for Difficult Creek, and it is on the left before you get to Scottsburg Center. Later in the week, I will try and remember to get out the map for Halifax and get the highway numbers which run on both sides off 360.

I don't know about the other Halifax researchers, but I haven't done any original research in at least a year and a half. I have been wanting to go to Prince Edward Courthouse.

Maybe this coming week I can post some of the data from the indexes which may shed light on Jeff's and Mary's land.

Another interesting thing in the indexes was a lawsuit brought by the railroad against Miles and Frances for damages. If I remember, the railroad won the case for damages. Considering how close the railroad was to the house, I can understand Miles and Frances concern.

Doris


Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 20:43:55 (PDT)
Alice Dewey Robinson
genealogyrme@shaw.ca

James Watt Womack and Ida Mae Osenton
Can some one tell me where James and Ida were married,died,cemetery any newspaper items. Ida Mae Osenton is conected to my 2 oldest sons family. Ida would be their great aunt. I belive she is a sister to George E.Osenton .
Can any one help?
Alice


Monday, May 02, 2005 at 11:01:05 (PDT)
Doretta
dreec@EKNS.net

Doris---I don't know if this post is clear about those look ups in R. Dodson's book. If not let me know. --- I used a regular road map and the maps in Dodson' book. In his book Dodson gives maps of the surveys (on even number pages) and the page facing (on odd number pages) he gives a copy of USGS map for the same area. The regular road map helped me to find the pages in Dodson's book that I wanted. In Dodson's book I used pages (106&107) and looked at pages (108&109). I first found the railroad on page 107 and then tried to pick out on page 106 its about path. On page 106 there was not any roads, creeks or railroad. Just surveys so I had to guess the railroad path. I did not find any surveys for WOMACK on that page, but I did try to pinpoint where the railroad would go. There are lots of surveys on page 106. On Dodson's USGS map on page 107 it looks like the railroad crosses Difficult Creek, then swings down and goes through Scottsburg. There is a little road with no number going from Scottsburg towards what I guess is 360. anyway at that spot on the little road is Scottsburg School and across the little road is a cemetery. I am naming these points so you know what area was covered. The area on the railroad between Difficult Creek and Scottsburg is what I tried to pinpoint on the survey page (106).---Doretta


Monday, May 02, 2005 at 14:28:38 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Attn: Alice Robinson http://dubbie.tripod.com/wonder/womisc.htm this web sit is where I found this info I went to Gooogles and put James Watt Womack in the search bar

67. JAMES WATT WOMACK, merchant, sometime public official,
b. at Oldtown, Nov. 24, 1852, moved to farm on Three Prong in G.Co.
until 1863, moved to Greenup. attended Greenup schools until 1867,
moved to Oldtown, but came back to Greenup to school Clerk in
general store of Womack & Kouns and at Laurel Furnace store.
Lifelong Democrat, deputy sheriff l875-82, sheriff 1883-1886,
state representativel890-92, county judge 1912-1918. A Mason.
He died June 9, 1951, 98yr-6mo-16da. M. Ida Mae Osenton of
Wheelersburg, Ohio, b. Feb. 16, 1860, d. July 1930, dau of
John Thomas and Katherine Cameron Osenton (See Osenton famili)-
They had no children, but reared her niece, Mabel Osenton, who
m. O.W. Stennett of Russell, and with whom James Watt Womack lived
during latter part of his lifetime.


http://www.lawrencecountyohio.com/families/k_p/kounsjacob2.htm
50. James Watt WOMACK.


He was married to Martha A. STARK (daughter of Henry STARK and Adelaide HOWE) on 5 Jan 1864 in C'burg. Martha A. STARK was born about 1844 in KY. James Watt WOMACK and Martha A. STARK had the following children:


93 i. Luella WOMACK was born on 6 Jul 1876 in Greenup Co, KY.


51. William Neville BOSTICK was born on 1 Sep 1847. He died on 20 Dec 1930.

James W. Womack, age 98, died 9 June 1951 in Greenup County, Kentucky
www.ancestry.com





Monday, May 02, 2005 at 17:41:58 (PDT)
dcox
dcox@kerrlake.com

The following is the Grantee list of Womacks in Halifax Co VA:

Grantee - Grantor - Kind - Book - Page - Date recorded - Area & Location

Abraham Womack Daniel Hudson B&S 7 267 Nov 17 1768 480A Beavers Ck
Abraham Womack Robert Wade Est &c B&S 43 261 Aug 22 1836 1/7 of 245A Staun
Abram Womack John Coleman B&S 48 531 May 22 1843 Int in tract
Abraham Womack Robert Wade Est B&S 49 223 Dec 8 1843 Int in 245A Staunt
A V Womack Marshall R &wf B&S 64 666 Mar 10 1876 1A 35 poles Clover
Ann S Womack Beverly Canada &wf B&S 65 567 Aug 27 1877 21A
Allen W Womack Mary Womack Est Part 68 420 Feb 11 1881 11A
Ann S Womack John C Crowder &wf B&S 68 521 Mar 28 1881 Lot Scottsburg
A V Womack &c Isaac Adkisson Est by Comr B&S 69 516 Apr 21 1882 1 5/8A nr Clover
A V Womack &c Beverly Canada &c B&S 70 [7]46 May 23 1883 Lot Clover
A V Womack Martin Wackerly &wf B&S 71 132 Jul 23 1883 98A Roanoke Dist
A V Womack Thos Ba[i]lin B&S 74 394 Nov 4 1885 Lot Clover Depot
A V Womack M R Womack Est Part 75 35 Feb 18 1886 139 Piney Ck
A V Womack Tr A H Blunt &wf D of T 76 124 Sep 6 1886 1/2 int in 307 1/2A Dif
A V Womack &c C [T] Bethel B&S 77 542 Aug 15 1887 14.14A Roa Dist nr Clover

Doris


Monday, May 02, 2005 at 18:09:55 (PDT)
dcox
dcox@kerrlake.com

The following is the Grantee list of Womacks in Halifax Co VA:
Grantee - Grantor - Kind - Book - Page - Date recorded - Area & Location

A V Womack E C Hurt &wf B&S 81 163 Jun 6 1890 23.86A nr Clover
A V Womack James Foster &wf B&S 81 172 Jun 13 1890 12A nr Clover
A V Womack &c Elizabeth Martin &c by Clerk B&S 81 216 Nov 11 1889
1/[4] of 43 1/3A
A V Womack &c James Yuille Est B&S 81 217 Nov 11 1889 16A
A V Womack &c George R Watts by Clerk B&S 81 218 Nov 11 1889 34 3/4A
Hundleys Old Mill
A V Womack &c R A Parker by Clerk B&S 81 221 Nov 11 1889 30A Staun
Dist Rookneal[sic] (Brookneal) Rd


Monday, May 02, 2005 at 18:28:23 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@netzero,com

To those of you might happnstance send me main - dont sent to samawadee@msn.com anymore - have had numerour problems and cannot any longer tolerate them -
use samsawadee@netzero or puchai@excite.com - not that I expect to hear from anyone of you - but there they are


Monday, May 02, 2005 at 19:32:15 (PDT)
dcox
dcox@kerrlake.com

Parke Coleman Bogle,

Re: Laban Coleman, born Abt. 1770

*1797 Laban Coleman Elizabeth Womack 19 October 1797 Chesterfield Co VA
*1804 LDB 20:61
15 Jun 1804 – Laban Coleman to Tussekiah Baptist Society, $1, 1 ac; Lunenburg Co, adj land sold by Ward Hudson to sd society; to extend to road.
*1810 Lunenburg Co VA Census
COLEMAN Salom Roll 069 Page 326 10001-30011-01
COLEMAN Salom:
Males under 10: 1
Males 45 & up: 1
Females under 10: 3
Females 26 and under 45: 1
Females 45 & up: 1
Slaves: 1
*1817 Laban Coleman Surety for the marriage of:
Thomas Franklin Polly Coleman Laban Coleman 2/10/1817
*1820 Lunenburg Co VA Census
Roll 137 Page 164 or 176 No Twp Listed
Laban Coleman
*1830 Lunenburg Co VA Census
Roll 195 Page 007 No Twp Listed
Laban Coleman
*1840 Lunenburg Co VA Census
COLEMAN Saban Roll 565 Page 278 No Twp Listed
*1844 LDB 33:236
6 Jan 1844 – Labon Coleman & wife Elizabeth to John A Johns, Drury A Smith, Thos Gee (M), Joel Johns, Thos A Johns, Jas E McCraw, Hatcher Clark, John T Dowdy trustees for Regular or old side Baptists called Tussekiah Congregation, $1, 156 [poles] 6 perches; Lunenburg Co, by survey John C Stokes, land whereon to erect a church for sd congregation, on ridge div waters Tussekiah/Church Crks at road, adj Labon Coleman, estate L Crymes.
*1850 Laban Coleman
Mortality Index: 1850 Age: 83 Gender: M Occupation: Farmer
Death Date: March, 1850 Death Location: Lunenburg, Virginia
Cause: Dropsy Birth Location: Virginia

Parke, I don't know who the parents of Laban and Elizabeth are. There are several Womacks from Chesterfield Co VA but without more information, it would be hard to place Elizabeth. Their marriage record may list their parents; all I have is the marriage off the internet.

Doris


Tuesday, May 03, 2005 at 20:37:51 (PDT)
dcox
dcox@kerrlake.com

The following is the Grantee list of Womacks in Halifax Co VA:
Grantee - Grantor - Kind - Book - Page - Date recorded - Area & Location

A V Womack &c Milly Williams by Clk B&S 81 222 Nov 11 1890 13 1/2A
Catawba Rd
A V Womack &c Robert J Pulliam by Clerk B&S 81 223 Nov 11 1889 84A Hyco R
A V Womack &c Isaac Adkisson Est by Clk B&S 81 224 Aug 22 1889 Lot
near R & D RR Clover
A V Womack &wf Wm Logan Est by Admr & Tr Rel 83 347 Apr 11 1892 Lot
Clover 139A [Pi] Ck
Ardelia Womack &c Jesse B Nunnally Est Part 84 557 May 6 1893 178 1/4A
Sandy Ck
A V Womack Agnes Heidelberg Est B&S 85 208 Oct 2 1893 72ft Main St Clover
Adam Womack E C Hurt &wf B&S 85 394 Jan 30 1894 10A Roa Dist
A V Womack Tucker C Watkins &wf B&S 87 260 May 27 1895 60A nr Clover
A V Womack Bettie A Womack &c B&S 87 411 Aug 8 1895 Int in lot Clover
A V Womack C A Gregory &wf &c B&S 89 559 Aug 13 1897 Int 14.14A
nr Clover
A V Womack R T Howerton &wf B&S 91 182 Sep 26 1898 Lot Main St Clover
A V Womack R T Howerton &wf B&S 91 482 Feb 27 1899 1 5A Clover
A V Womack R T Howerton &wf B&S 92 236 Aug 2 1899 1.3A Clover


Thursday, May 05, 2005 at 09:35:25 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@netzero.com

Thought this interesting

Name: WOMACK, Jane
Location of Event: Tasmania [Australia]
Notes: Entry number 64
Ship: Aeolus
Year: 1809
This entry is from the book 'Notorious Strumpets and Dangerous Girls: Convict Women in Van Diemen's Land 1803-1829' by Phillip Tardif (ISBN 0-207-15798-7) which is out of print. It can be found in some libraries or use Books We Own List
"Notorious Strumpets & Dangerous Girls" by Phillip Tardif. Biographical details of 1,700 women transported to Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania) 1803 - 1829
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Not sure how he got in with the wimmen, but..................
Name: WOMACK, William
Location of Event: Tasmania
Notes: Entry number 64
Ship: Aeolus
Year: 1809
This entry is from the book 'Notorious Strumpets and Dangerous Girls: Convict Women in Van Diemen's Land 1803-1829' by Phillip Tardif (ISBN 0-207-15798-7) which is out of print. It can be found in some libraries or use Books We Own List


Thursday, May 05, 2005 at 10:42:13 (PDT)
Daniel Womack
czzyzx41@hotmail.com

Based on the houseofnames entry for the Womack surname I read: "First found in Norfolk where they were anciently seated as Lords of the manor." I also remember seeing something about 1601 and a Henry Womack or so being listed as an Earl in Norfolk. Could this be correct? Is there or was there a peerage in our family in which our ancestors held title and do those titles exist today? If not, how and when were they lost?
I'm sure this is a FAQ but I thought I'd bring it up and see if anyone had any information on the subject. I assume if we have historical records of Wamukes and Womukes back before the 16th century and most peasants couldn't read or write then that would mean we at least had enough noble stature to be listed on official records. Reply via email preferred but I'll keep checking in to see if someone has responded. Thank you very much.


Thursday, May 05, 2005 at 12:49:43 (PDT)
Daniel Womack
czzyzx41@hotmail.com

OK I've done just enough research to realize "Lord of the Manor" isn't really a title but just says that we once owned our own land. Well ok so at least we were land owners and for the time I suppose that says something. I have read a little of David Dunn's entries from 2000 but I'm still unclear as to whether we held any peerage at all in Norfolk or that is, any right to arms. I see the Bishop Laurence Womack and I'm still confused by that houseofnames mentioning of Earls. I'm beginning to think the Womack family never had any heraldry because no one in the family ever held a title that would qualify us for it. I don't care so much about having nobility in my family history I do just want to know whether to even continue searching for any links to peerage or if instead I should give it up because there are none. Thank you.


Thursday, May 05, 2005 at 12:53:02 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@netzero.com

Daniel
Those Womacks you refer to in England were vicars and etc - not earls or other noblemen -- the only true Coat of Arms belonged to Bishop Lawrence/Laurence Womack -- he had no male heir in his will other than a nephew or great-nephew -

The Henry you refer to, as I remember, was a vicar - I have a copy of his will from 1627 -- also that of Arthur, another vicar or some important post - 1607

One word of caution to all that want to display a coat of arms for any name -
The arms are legally passed down only to the oldest son; and if I remember the info from the College of Arms in England - if the oldest son is dead - and his oldest is living - then it passes that way - brothers 2 thru how many get the short end of the stick so to speak -- not to mention the girls. I'll try to get back with the College and get a better reading of the line of succession..


Thursday, May 05, 2005 at 17:11:11 (PDT)
dcox
dcox@kerrlake.com

The following is the Grantee list of Womacks in Halifax Co VA:
Grantee - Grantor - Kind - Book - Page - Date recorded - Area & Location

A V Womack M R Womack Est B&S 92 237 Aug 2 1899 Lot Church St Clover
A V Womack &c Richard Smith Est by Comr B&S 96 361 Sep 13 1902 97 1/4A
A V Womack J W Dunkley &wf &c B&S 97 545 Jul 8 1903 23.86A nr Clover
Adelia Womack Jesse B Nunnally Est Part 100 315 [no date] 35.80A
Sandy Ck
A V Womack Tucker C Watkins &wf Corrn 102 193 Nov 26 1906 60A nr Clover
A V Womack C H Martin Est by Comr B&S 111 55 Nov 29 1912 103.27A
Roa D nr
A V Womack Charles H Martin &wf by Tr B&S 113 290 Dec 29 1913 100A
Roa Dist
A V Womack Clifton Duffy &wf B&S 117 11 Feb 5 1916 65 1/3A Roa D
Ralphs Br
A V Womack Geo W Douglas Est B&S 132 332 Aug 9 1923 9.20A nr Clover
A V Womack C G Blackstock &wf B&S 135 239 Mar 20 1925 Timber on
100A nr
Burras Womack Heirs of Miles Womack Est Part 60 485 May 28 1866
30 1/2A
Bettie A Womack &c Isaac Adkisson Est by Com B&S 69 516 Apr 21 1882
1 5/8A nr Clover
Belle Womack Annie B McDowell &h B&S 92 103 May 30 1899 38A Mead
Dist
Ben Womack Wm R Barksdale B&S 99 12 Jun 4 1904 120.12A Mead Dis
B W Womack John H Collie &wf B&S 104 186 Feb 13 1908 120A Bye Ck Mead
Ben Womack Adam Womack B of S 105 214 Oct 7 1908 Pers
Ben W Womack Sarah Ann Logan &c B&S 111 343 Jan 30 1913 2.60A Mead Rodd


Thursday, May 05, 2005 at 17:32:19 (PDT)
Daniel
czzyzx41@hotmail.com

Thanks Sam. The more I read that coat of arms would have belonged to Bishop Laurence and we're not even sure exactly what his heraldry looked like and likely anyone inheriting the arms would have changed them over time so much so that any Womacks in line to inherit arms could pretty much create their own based on the limits of their title and preference.
Looking back on my own line I personally have no right to arms. I am the eldest son of an eldest son and so it ends from there. If the only peerage held by a Womack are that with the church, my membership with the Latter-Day Saints would surely eliminate any right to arms I'd think even if I were in such a position.
Anyways I've become obsessed lately with British History and so that brought my question.


Thursday, May 05, 2005 at 18:37:11 (PDT)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

The following is the Grantee list of Womacks in Halifax Co VA:
Grantee - Grantor - Kind - Book - Page - Date recorded - Area & Location

Banister Womack Nathan Tucker &wf B&S 119 79 Jul 4 1917 Tract Mead Dist
Ben Womack Armistead Logan &wf B&S 119 349 Oct 25 1917 6A Mead Dist
Ben W Womack Louis Logan &wf by Tr B&S 123 366 May 12 1919 100A Ban R
Mead D
B L Womack Tr Tucker Chappell &wf D of T 123 374 May 13 1919 1/2A &
2A Meadville D
B W Womack W S Nichols &wf &c B&S 125 275 Jan 13 1920 127.70A Mead
Dist
B W Womack Armistead Logan &wf B&S 127 324 Nov 22 1920 29A & 9A
Mead Dist
B W Womack Isham Logan Est B&S 135 80 Feb 2 1925 5A Mead Rodden Rd
Bettie E Womack Town of Clover B&S 136 630 Mar 25 1926 #52 & 62
Cem Plat Clover
Ben Womack Tucker Chappell &wf B&S 137 229 May 10 1926 2A N Mead
Dist
B W Womack Walter Guy &wf by Tr B&S 141 143 Dec 31 1927 127.70A
Mead Dist


Friday, May 06, 2005 at 09:32:39 (PDT)
Beryl Jean Branum
j_branum@hotmail.com

Hi, I ran across some Jones ancestry by Paul Latmir while doing a google search in the archive section here. I tried to email him but it was blocked. Hope he is still around and can give me some answers to some Jones information. I have a myfamily.com site with about 30 distant cousins that are related to Seaborn Lisbon Jones and Catherine Long's daughter, Tacy Jones through her marriage to Shadrach Jones Moore. One of my cousins posted some info on Seaborn's ancestry that is not documented but it comes from the Jones line that Paul posted here. Here is the Jones Line that is posted on our site:
Descendants of David Jones




Generation No. 1


1. DAVID1 JONES was born Abt. 1752 in South Carolina, and died Abt. 1801. He married TACY FLOYD. She was born Abt. 1756.


Child of DAVID JONES and TACY FLOYD is:

2. i. CHARLES WESLEY2 JONES, b. Abt. 1777, Union County, South Carolina; d. 25 July 1833, Bedford County, Tennessee.



Generation No. 2


2. CHARLES WESLEY2 JONES (DAVID1) was born Abt. 1777 in Union County, South Carolina, and died 25 July 1833 in Bedford County, Tennessee. He married REBECCA NORMAN. She was born 02 February 1781 in South Carolina, and died 19 December 1859 in Howard County, Arkansas.


Child of CHARLES JONES and REBECCA NORMAN is:

3. i. SEABORN LISBON3 JONES, b. Abt. 1798, South Carolina.



Generation No. 3


3. SEABORN LISBON3 JONES (CHARLES WESLEY2, DAVID1) was born Abt. 1798 in South Carolina. He married CAROLYN LONG 13 July 1820 in Bedford County, Tennessee. She was born Abt. 1803 in Virginia.


Child of SEABORN JONES and CAROLYN LONG is:

4. i. TACY4 JONES, b. 1818, Beford County, Tennessee.



Generation No. 4


4. TACY4 JONES (SEABORN LISBON3, CHARLES WESLEY2, DAVID1) was born 1818 in Beford County, Tennessee. She married SHADRICK JONES MOORE 1839 in Talladega County, Alabama. He was born 26 March 1814 in Johnston County, North Carolina, and died 05 June 1894 in Potter, Polk County, Arkansas.

Notes for SHADRICK JONES MOORE:

Cove, Polk County, Arkansas 1870 Census:

STATE: ARKANSAS MICROFILM: M-593 #61

COUNTY: POLK DATE: 1870

TOWNSHIP: COVE ENUM: JOHN F. LANE

POST OFFICE: DALLAS Asst. Marshall

122 122 MOORE, S. J. 56 M W Farmer 120 250 NC

Tasey 52 F W KH TN 1 1

Edney L. 20 F W HK MS 1

Theophelus 18 M W Works on farm MS 1

?Levina L. 16 M W Works on farm TX 1 1

Rebecca 14 F W TX 1 1

Mary E. 12 F W TX 1 1 1

Susan 10 F W TX X X

William 8 M W TX X X

SANDFORD, James 80 M W Preacher 75 VA

If this is the correct family of Seaborn Jones, then somehow I am related to those here at this site. Anyone who may have an answer, please contact me at my email address. Thanks


Friday, May 06, 2005 at 12:57:07 (PDT)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

The following is the Grantee list of Womacks in Halifax Co VA:
Grantee - Grantor - Kind - Book - Page - Date recorded - Area & Location

Chas Wm Womack B&S 8 31 Jun 21 1770 315A Sandy Ck
Chas Luke Williams &wf B&S 12 88 Mar 15 1781 60A
Chas Mary Wilson B&S 13 492 Sep 21 1786 272A
Chas James Henry B&S 15 374 Jul 23 1792
Chas Beverly Miller B&S 19 146 Oct 26 1801 500A
Chas W &c Tr John Cobbs D of T 33 346 Aug 22 1825 65A & pers
Charles W &c James Young &c B&S 35 496 Nov 29 1828 Lot nr Co House
Charles W William W Womack Gift 36 427 Oct 27 1828 486A Polecat Ck
Charles W &c John Dismukes &wf B&S 39 227 Nov 28 1831 250A Polecat Ck
Charles W Wm W Womack &wf B&S 49 479 Apr 23 1844 115A Polecat Ck
Charles W &c Henry Farmer &wf B&S 51 95 Nov 26 1845 6 1/4A Little Birch Ck


Friday, May 06, 2005 at 17:13:44 (PDT)
Thomas W. Alsobrook
T4Als@aol.com

Do any of you know the names of the children born to Temperance Womack and James Alsobrook. They were married in Southampton, county, Va., 13 March 1783 A Matha Womack (unmarried) left one eleventh of her estate to the children of James and Temperance Alsobrook. The will did not name the children.I believe I am descended from James and Temperance but without knowing the names of their children I am at a road block.


Friday, May 06, 2005 at 21:34:20 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Attn: Thomas Alsobrook Found this info at ancestry.com

ID: I33021
Name: Temperance WOMACK
Sex: F

Father: William WOMACK
Mother: Mary

Marriage 1 James C. ALSOBROOK b: bef 1743
Married: 13 Mar 1783
Children
James C. ALSOBROOK b: 1774 in Halifax County, North Carolina
Landon ALSOBROOK b: 1780 in North Carolina
Asa ALSABROOK b: 13 Apr 1790 in North Carolina

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 07:30:40 (PDT)
Doretta
Donreec@EKNS.net

Doris --- Thanks for posting the Halifax County VA Grantee list of Womacks. I find it very interesting. Abraham Womack - Daniel Hudson/Hutson and 480A on Beavers Creek is the Woodlawn Lands. On the web, The Early History of Woodlawn says that Abraham Womack sold the property ten years later in 1779 (deed presented at court on Feb 17, 1780) to John Coleman, both of Halifax Co Va. Now Daniel Hutson/Hudson is maybe of the Hudson family that maybe this Abraham Womack married into. Anyway Henry, Miles, and William Creed Womack's sister Mary A Womack married Julius Caesar Hudson who seems to be from this same Hudson family. ---- Also I have a new Email Address. --- Doretta


Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 12:24:22 (PDT)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

The following is the Grantee list of Womacks in Halifax Co VA:
Grantee - Grantor - Kind - Book - Page - Date recorded - Area & Location

Charles W-Charles W Vasser B&S 55 388 Mar 27 1854 1/2 int in Real & pers
Charles W-Wm Cole Est by Comr B&S 55 434 Apr 24 1854 8A Polecat Ck & Mill
Chas H children of-Martha Womack Gift 60 617 Jan 28 1867 Int 150A Dower
Chas H heirs of-Chas Womack Est Part 60 635 Feb 25 1867 158A Polecat Ck
Chas W-Jas S Easley &wf &c B&S 63 103 Jan 6 1873 13 3/4A Clover
C W-Nath T Green Comr B&S 64 326 May 25 1875 16&c A 15&c A
C W &c-Isaac Adkisson Est by Com B&S 69 516 Apr 21 1882 1 5/8A nr Clover
C W &c-Beverly Canada &c B&S 70 746 May 23 1883 Lot Clover
C W-M R Womack Est Part 75 35 Feb 18 1886 337A Difficult Ck Farm
C W &c-R E Womack by Comr B&S 80 52 May 28 1889 20A nr Dryburg
C W-G E Nichols &wf B&S 100 296 Oct 27 1905 115 1/2AMt Laurel Clo R


Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 18:13:47 (PDT)
Bud Pearson
bud345@cox.net

Good Morning!

Looking for information having to do with Alfred A Womack. Born 1927. Married Betty Lou Elaine Hall 10/1/47 in Ellicott City, Md. Divorced 5/23/50.

Thanks for any information.

Bud Pearson (Oceanside, Ca.)


Tuesday, May 10, 2005 at 14:54:50 (PDT)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

The following is the Grantee list of Womacks in Halifax Co VA:
Grantee - Grantor - Kind - Book - Page - Date recorded - Area & Location

Charlotte-W G Womack Est Dower 100 314 30 1/4A Peytonsburg Rd
Coly-Isham Logan &c Est Part 100 583 Feb 26 1906 5.47A Mead Rd
C W-W H Sims Est B&S 107 595 Dec 19 1910 39 1/2A Roa D nr Clover
Cornelia L &h-L D Dunn &wf B&S 126 522 Jun 23 1920 47A Ridgeway Pickaway Rd
C W-M C Sims Est &c B&S 130 362 Jun 21 1922 29A Roanoke Dist
Cleo Delta &c-C W Womack Est by Comr B&S 133 521 Apr 16 1924 119.51 & 39.5A Clover Mt L
Delia S &c-Isaac Adkisson Est by Comr B&S 69 516 Apr 21 1882 1 5/8A nr Clover
Edward-Thomas McCargo &wf B&S 39 506 Mar 21 1832 200 1/2A Wades Ck


Tuesday, May 10, 2005 at 23:11:25 (PDT)
Dave Maher
Rhondaanddave@bigpond.com.au

With regards to Daniel asking about Coat of Arms, There is no Nobility in the Womack line. The Rev Laurence Womack had four sons and one daughter from Prudence,and one daughter from Jane.
Any title would have been passed to those sons.
I think the first step for anyone in America trying to claim the right of the Womack Coat of arms they need to be able to trace their line back to England, then to the Rev Laurance's family.
I have seen lots written on who was believed to be the first Womack into America, but still waiting for the first bit of proof. Not guess work.
I trace my line back to Rev Laurence directly, with all Certs. and church records.
I am also in touch with several Womack relations in Norfolk England, and they cannot find any connections to early America as yet.
Using a coat of Arms that you have no legal right too is like wearing War Service medals that you did not earn.
Dave.
Queensland
Australia
11 Generation descendant of Rev Laurence


Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 01:49:57 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

WOMACK WILLS AND ADMINISTRATIONS IN VIRGINIA, 1623-1800
At least 21 Womacks are known to have died in Virginia prior to 1800, the earliest being Richard Womack who died intestate in Henrico County in 1684, the county where our Womacks first settled. Unfortunately, many of Henrico's earliest records have been destroyed. Will records are missing in Henrico for the fol. lowing years: 1634-1676, 1719-17241 1738-17431 1758-1766 and 1770-1773 (thus approximately 40% of Henricols will records prior to 1800 are lost). Both William Womack I (our immigrant ancestor) and his son, William Womack II, died in Henrico prior to 1677, so they do not appear on record. Also, a large number of Womacks settled in the early 1700's in that part of Prince George County which became Dinwiddie County in 1752. Dinwiddie records have been completely destroyed (a 100% loss), and the records of wills before 1800 for Prince George County have been destroyed for the years 1702-1712, 1729-1786, and 1793-1800 (a 78% loss). These tragic losses in Henrico, Dinwiddie and Prince George Coun. ties have been and will continue to be severe handicaps in the tracing of the various branches of our Womack family in Virginia.

Following is a list of the 21 Womacks that died in Virginia prior to 1800, and arranged in chronological order for easy reference:

Richard Womeck Henrico County - 1684 - inventory.
Thomas Womack Henrico County - 1697 - will.
John Womack - Prince George County - 1725 - will.
Richard Womack - Henrico County - 1730 - administration.
Abraham Womack - Henrico County - 1733 - will.
Thomas Womack - Henrico County - 1733 - will.
Mary Womack - Chesterfield County - 1750 - will.
William Womack - Goochland County - 1762 - will.
Thomas Womack - Chesterfield County - 1780 - will.
Jesse Womack - Bedford County - 1782 - will.
Thomas Womack - Chesterfield County - 1782 - will.
Joel Womack - Chesterfield County 1783 - inventory.
Alexander Womack - Campbell County - 1784 - will.
Sarah Womack - Chesterfield County - 1785 - will.
William Womack - Cumberland County - 1786 - will.
James Womack - Southampton County 1787 - inventory.
John Womack - Prince George County - 1787 - will.
William Womack - Charlotte County - 1790 - will.
Thomas Womack - Southampton County - 1795 - will.
Jesse Womack - Chesterfield County - 1797 - inventory.
Nathan Womack - Cumberland County - 1798 - will.


Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 04:48:20 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Just in case any1 needs NC burials on Womacks Womicks and Womichs here they are

LEBANON METHODIST CEMETERY
Womack, Frank P. April 26, 1879 December 28, 1954
Womack, Sally E. May 25, 1883 May 30, 1952

Womack, Rosell Fred c1926 c1938

Womack, Oscar Alonzo February 1, 1914 February 25, 1914

Womack, Fred Parker September 20, 1904 November 15, 1930

Womack, Anderson William February 3, 1888 December 7, 1967 WW I

Womack, Margaret E. McGinnis November 29, 1956 September 29, 1932 w/o AWW

Womack, Infant March 24, 1920 s/o Otho

Womack, Hugh Anderson September 17, 1925 March 21, 1926 s/o Otho

Womack, George W. November 15, 1899 November 22, 1981
Womack, Julia H. September 10, 1906 November 12, 1969

Womack, Bryant Homer May 12, 1931 March 12, 1952 Korea

Womack, Fletcher Eugene April 4, 1941 April 28, 1969

Womack, Linda Ann May 6, 1960 November 16, 1961 d/o GLW

Womack, Collett R. July 14, 1901 December 27, 1976
Womack, Annie O. December 16, 1905 January 18, 1971

Womack, Junior C. December 25, 1926 ------
Womack, Iris J. November 12, 1931 August 7, 1990

Womack, Jeffrey Dean November 16, 1955 June 21, 1985
Womack, Debra Hudgins November 25, 1956 October 26, 1992

Womack, Amos White c1914 c1920 s/o Ancey

Womack, Bertha Ruppe May 18, 1886 January 15, 1964
Womack, Thomas L. November 8, 1883 November 20, 1979

Womack, G. B. March 2, 1876 January 5, 1918

Womack, Jane January 4, 1846 July 9, 1932
Womack, Rev. William W. June 30, 1844 January 9, 1934

Womack, Corrie May 5, 1871 March 8, 1940
Womack, Minnie July 10, 1873 May 12, 1959

PLEASANT GROVE UNITED METHODIST CEMETERY, Rutherford County NC
Womack, J.C. 1904 Infant son of

Womack, Steve April 7, 1931 January 16, 1932 Son of
C.R. & Louise Dobbin

Womick, J. T. 1861 August 24, 1886

Womick, Bessie H. December 7, 1879 September 21, 1881 Daughter
of
J.T. & Alpha Womick

Womick, Eva Cole July 18, 1880 May 1, 1918

Womick, Quinn Lee November 22, 1877 January 1, 1955

Womack, Winnie B. October 24, 1891 April 23, 1976

Womack, Burl November 23, 1890 May 3, 1973

Womack, John E. July 14, 1869 July 24, 1951

Womack, Mattie H. November 8, 1880 September 26, 1976

Womack, A. E. (Tobe) April 4, 1911 May 10, 1973
Womack, Dinah E. October 20, 1914 _______
Womick, Worth, Sr. May 27, 1900 December 17, 1991

Womick, Irma Freeman June 15, 1899 November 17, 1971

Womack, James L. (Jim) October 26, 1915 May 20, 1977

Womack, Virginia Briscoe August 26, 1917 June 17, 1994

CHATHAM COUNTY, NC - WILLS - John Womack, Sr., 29 Jul 1813
----¤¤¤¤----

John Womack, Sr. Will - Dated 29 July 1813, Probated Feb. 1814
Chatham Co. Will Bk. A pg. 242
NCSA Film # C.022.80001

In the name of God, Amen. I John Womack Sr. of Chatham County and State
of North Carolina, being in Sound and perfect mind and memory blessed be
God do make publish and ordain this my last Will and Testament this
Twenty Ninth day of July in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight
hundred and Thirteen in manner as follows.
First, I give and bequeath unto my son Rora Womack, the tract of Land
whereon I now live containing Two hundred and Eighty Six Acres, also
Fifty Acres on the River concluding the Mill, also one Negro Man by the
name of Ned.
Item. I give unto my son William Allen who generally goes by the name of
William Womack one Negro Man by the name of Sam.
Item. I lend unto Susannah? Allen her life all the stock of Horses,
Cows,
Hogs and all the Household and Kitchen furniture & plantation utensils
with the crop that is now growing and after her death to be equally
divided between Robert William and Elizabeth Allen.
Item. I give unto my (son?) James Womack five shillings to be raised out
of my Estate.
Item. I give unto my son John Womack five shillings to be raised out of
my estate.
Item. I give unto my daughter Patsey Parham five shillings to be raised
out of my estate.
Item. I give unto my daughter Nancy Baute/Ballte/Bante? Five shillings
to be raised out of my estate.
I do also ordain and appoint Rora Womack and William Allen my
executors to this my last Will & Testament. Signed and ordained and
published by the said John Womack to be his last will and Testament in
the presents of us the year and date above written.
John Womack {Seal}

Test.
Parish Cross
Proved Feby 1814 by Parish Cross

Rutherford Memorial Cemetery, Rutherford County, North Carolina
Womack, Bate March 13, 1905 October 20, 1989

Womack, Rena H. c1901 c1989
Womack, Morgan H. c1897 c1970

Womack, Inez G. c1927 ------
Womack, James c1923 -----

Womack, Virgil Lee c1925 ------
Womack, Virginia Hoyle c1926 ------

Womick, Henry Hudson c1912 c1984
Womick, Edna Fowler c1919 -------

Catawba County Cemeteries - from 9 volumes of "Catawba County Cemeteries"
published by the Catawba County Genealogical Society (C) 1986-1998
WOMACK |Bessie |3:094 |Mt. Pleasant Methodist
WOMACK |Elisha |3:095 |Mt. Pleasant Methodist
WOMACK |Elizabeth |3:095 |Mt. Pleasant Methodist
WOMACK |Erah B. Allen |3:094 |Mt. Pleasant Methodist
WOMACK |Ida J. |3:102 |Mt. Pleasant Methodist
WOMACK |Lee A. |3:094 |Mt. Pleasant Methodist
WOMACK |S. Rebecca |3:095 |Mt. Pleasant Methodist

Union Cemetery, Rutherford County, North Carolina
Womack, Carl July 12, 1882 July 27, 1933

Womack, Elizabeth Smawley June 24, 1892 February 8, 1949

Womack, Joe January 17, 1931 -----
Womack, Vivian February 25, 1939 January 8, 1991

Womack, Baby No Dates

Womack, Thomas No Dates CSA

MACON CO., NC - CEMETERIES - Woodlawn Cemetery, Section 2 of 6
Headstone, Womack:
Footstone: Ella Hughes Womack Aug. 15, 1883 Feb. 19, 1969
Footstone: John Silas Womack June 2, 1874 July 24, 1957

Double stone, Womack:
Ralph Womack 1907 - 1978
Katherine Womack 1910 - 1992; footstone: [blank]

Cliffside Cemetery, Cliffside, Rutherford County, North Carolina
Womack, Alda M. December 17, 1923 -------
Womack, G. Horace May 17, 1911 November 20, 1988

Womack, H. Grover May 28, 1887 March 9, 1965

Womack, Mary S. July 2, 1886 April 2, 1986

HOLLYBROOK CEMETERY
Lincoln Co, NC
Womack, Eva Sigmon 18 Oct 1889 29 Jul 1972
Womack, Frank Payne 28 Jul 1884 3 Oct 1970
Womack, Lewis S 22 Oct 1895 8 Nov 1961
Womack, Josephine Abernathy 29 Sep 1899 28 Jul 1990

MOUNT PLEASANT BAPTIST CEMETERY, Sandy Mush, Rutherford County NC
Womick, L. B. September 15, 1849 October 23, 1919
Womick, C. P. March 18, 1878 December 25, 1894
Womick, Mrs. M. J. January 29, 1856 October 6, 1934

Womick, M. E. May 18, 1848 August 27, 1912
Womick, P. C. May 9, 1847 October 14, 1925

Womick, Texie Blanton July 8, 1900 July 8, 1948

Womick, John S. August 29, 1886 January 12, 1953

Womick, Alice freeman April 27, 1887 February 15, 1941

Womack, Eunice C. September 14, 1912 August 17, 1988

Womack, Lindsey W. July 11, 1910 December 19, 1963

Womick, Earl Lee May 11, 1914 December 22, 1977 WW II

Womack, William S. October 11, 1923 October 14, 1983
Womack, l. Frances November 9, 1921 ------

Hedrick, Mary Womick May 21, 1912 February 15, 1986

Wake County, NC - Kennebec Baptist Church Cemetery
Womack, Jack, b. 7 Jul 1933, d. 19 Apr 1999, US Army
Womack, Marion, b. 26 Jun 1938, d. 6 Jul 1977, US Army
Womack, Rita J., b. 1904, d. 1983
Womack, Thomas V., b. 1901,d. 1975, shared w. Rita Womack

CLEVELAND COUNTY, NC - CEMETERIES - Mountain Rest Cemetery, Section #4
Womack, George I. Jun 19, 1881 Aug 5, 1954
Womack, Edith Hoover Oct 9, 1891 Sep 1, 1966

LINCOLN COUNTY, NC - CEMETERIES - Keever Cemetery
Morris Alexander Womack April 16,1887 - July 14,1972
Nancy Perkins Womack May 30,1859 - March 9,1933
Ola Keever Womack Nov. 8,1887 - Jan. 20,1970
Wife of Morris Alexander Womack

MACON CO., NC - CEMETERIES - Watauga Baptist Church Cemetery
Triple stone, WOMACK
Father James Otto Womack 1884 - 1955
Mother Sarah H. Womack 1893 - 1933
Daughter Lois Womack 1933 - 1933

MACON CO., NC - CEMETERIES - Woodlawn Cemetery, Section 6 of 6
Double Stone: Womack
Samuel Bernard Womack October 10, 1927 [no date] US Navy World
War II MSGT US Air Force Korea Vietnam
Christina M. Slade Womack December 24, 1931 April 9, 1997 Born
in Middlesex, England

MACON CO., NC - CEMETERIES - Woodlawn Cemetery, Section 4 of 6
Headstone, Womack:
Footstone: Reid Womack PFC US Army World War II May 22, 1913 Oct.
23, 1983
Footstone: Elda Ledford Womack [no dates]

Shiloh Baptist Cemetery, Rutherford County, North Carolina
Womack, Essie L. October 1, 1902 March 4, 1983

Wall’s Baptist Church Cemetery, Rutherford County, North Carolina
Womack, Elizabeth October 13, 1848 August 21, 1917
Womack, John November 3, 1844 December 30, 1916

Wake County, NC - Mount Pleasant Presbterian Church Cemetery
Womack, Billie G., b. 22 Jun 1872, d. 27 Apr 1936, shared w.
Rosie Baker Womack
Womack, Rosie Baker, b. 3 May 1874, d. 18 Jan 1947, w. o. Billie Womack

Bertie County NC Dickens Cemetery
Inell Dickens Womack
1945-1973
Jefferey A. Womack and Tina L. Womack
no dates
(all three names above are on the same grave marker)

GASTON COUNTY, NC - CEMETERIES - Alexis Baptist Church Cemetery
WOMACK, Clyde W. Sep 26, 1912 Sep 1, 1979
WOMACK, Annie M. Apr 16, 1917

LINCOLN COUNTY, NC - CEMETERIES - Pleasant Grove United Methodist Church
Cemetery
Womack, Infant Daughter
February 19, 1938
Infant daughter of G.W. & Annie Womack
Budded on earth to bloom in heaven

Old Bethlehem Cemtery - Polk County, NC - Cemteries
Womack, Martha Parker June 14, 1808 October 7, 1883 w/o Gassoway

Womack, Anderson Co. C 55NC Inf. CSA No Dates

GILBOA UNITED METHODIST CHURCH CEMETERY, Rutherford County, NC
Womack, Anlo Nanney c1894 c1979
Womack, George Otho c1885 c1940

Pleasant Grove Baptist Church Cemetery, Rutherford County, North Carolina
Womack, Howard Glenn April 22, 1908 June 9, 1991
Womack, Lucille Camby May 22, 1915 -------

Providence United Methodist Church Cemetery, Rutherford County, North Carolina
Womich, Elizabeth 49 years November 27, 1858
Womich, Isom 24 years August 12, 1882

Womack, Mary Carpenter February 9, 1844 March 9, 1901

Womick, Asa B. October 20, 1828 July 6,1907

Womack, Hannah June 5, 1841 December 20, 1908

Womich, Vicky Sherman 3y3m26d December 20, 1908

Womich, Jane E. 74 years April 7, 1898

Womich, M. L. 91y 10m May 24, 1861

Tanner's Grove Methodist Cemetery, Rutherford County, North Carolina
Womack, Betty Lou May 10, 1933 d/o Jack
Womack, J. C. May 9, 1932 s/o Jack

CATAWBA COUNTY, NC - CEMETERIES - Maiden Cemetery, Sect. 4
James Ralph Womack
24 Sept. 1921 - 12 Nov. 2000 Sgt. US Army Air Forces WWII
Evelyn Setzer Womack
18 March 1926 -

Mt. Harmony Cemetery, Cleveland County, North Carolina
Womack, Gasoway c1808 c1869

KISTLER'S CHAPEL UNITED METHODIST CEMETERY, Rutherford County, NC
Womack, Jennifer Joann February 22, 1971 February 23, 1971

Wake County, NC - Wake Chapel Christian Church Memorial Gardens
Womack, Annie M., b. 23 Aug 1911, d. 3 Feb 1986
Womack, W. Preston, b. 17 Aug 1913, d. 9 Mar 1982

PHILLIPS CHAPEL METHODIST CHURCH CEMETERY, Alamance County, North Carolina
Womack, Irene Sauls 01-01-1913 12-03-1962
d/o Rufus & Theodosia Sauls

ANSON COUNTY, NC - CEMETERIES - Morven Cemetery, Morven, NC
Womack, Joseph Edgar
Mar. 18, 1882
Mar. 1, 1935
27 Years A Methodist Minister.
O, Cross That Liftest Up My Head,
I Dare Not Ask To Fly From Thee:
I Lay In Dust Life's Glory Dead,
And From The Ground There Blossomes Red
Life That Shall Endless Be.
"JEW" footstone

CHATHAM COUNTY, NC - CEMETERIES - Merry Oaks Cemetery
Partial Listing
J. B. Womack 12/16/1848 - 10/17/1917

The Green Cemetery, Cleveland County, North Carolina
Davis, Sarah Womack September 6, 1791 c1850
Davis, William F. March 19, 1788 July 16, 1876
Davis, Willis January 12, 1831 c185

MACON COUNTY, NC - CEMETERIES - Franklin Baptist Cemetery
S. E. Womack July 2, 1883 - July 28, 1911

BETHEL CEMETERY – SW WAKE COUNTY, N.C.
HOLLY SPRINGS, N.C.
WOMACK, Susan Sep 22,1827 – Dec 29,1917

Wake County, NC - Cemeteries
Womack, Jack Jr., b. 31 Jul 1959, d. 3 Aug 1959

Wake County, NC - Justice Cemetery
Womack, Henry, b. 1939, d. 1953


Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 16:35:20 (PDT)
Doretta
donreec@EKNS.net

Sam,Beth,Doris and others working on VA WOMACKS --- On Roots Web, John Browns' site, I found a note under William Clarke (Clark) born abt 1634 died 1713. It said: Quote One of William's wives was the widow of William Womack for a suit in General Court 8 April 1674 was resolved by conveying two-thirds of William Womack's property to his brother Abraham Womack and the remainder to his widow then the wife of William Clarke. Unquote --- In October 1689 William Clarke and Abraham Womack had a boundary dispute and it was resolved on 30 May 1690. Later Abraham Womack helped to inventory William Clarke's personal property for settlement of William Clarke's will which was recorded 5 October 1713. (John Brown's sources were Henrico Co VA, Deeds & Wills 1688-97, page 144 and Henrico Co VA Deeds & Wills 1710-14, page 228). William Clarke named his wife Mary in his will and also children, one of whom was Ann Pride. (She married William Pride and this William Pride had a brother John Pride who married Susannah Puckett.) Ann was William Pride's 2nd wife. He married 1st Jane Halcott and they had a son Halcott Pride. (There was a Halcott Pride who was the 1st husband of Martha who married 2nd a Hudson. These Hudsons were later connected to Womacks in Halifax Co VA.) The only thing I could find out about William Clarke's two wives was that one seems to maybe have been named Mary Gibson. Could she have been the one who married also William Womack? Can anyone shed any light on this William Clarke's wives and children? What William Womack was the 1st husband of Wm Clarke's wife? Also I wonder if the two Halcott Prides are the same person. Can anyone shed any light on Halcott Pride? Derrell, I want to thank you for posting the VA will list for Womacks. I wonder if the above Abraham Womack connected with William Clarke is the same Abraham in the will list who had a will in 1733 in Henrico Co VA? --- Doretta


Friday, May 13, 2005 at 02:32:47 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

The following sample is taken from the first pages of the book.

Part I: William and Mary Jane Womack of Henrico Co., Virginia.

The ancestor of most of the Womacks in America today is believed to be William Womack who was born about 1610 to 1620 presumably in England, county Norfolk. There are still Womacks in that area. On a tour of England in 1970 a Womack store was noticed in Sleaford. William is believed to have come to Henrico County, Virginia between 1630 and 1640. The five sons of William--William, Abraham, Richard, Thomas and John are mentioned in the Colonial Records of Virginia as was the ancestral home being Norfolk, England. There were two daughters, Ann and Mary.

1. William Womack, the Immigrant b presumably in England, County Norfolk b 1610/20
d Henrico Co., Va. 1674/77. m Mary Jane Allen, widow d a 1685. The children may not be listed in order of birth. All may have been born in Henrico Co., Va.

...2.1 William Womack, Jr. b 1640s d Henrico Co., Va. a 1674. m Jane (_______).
ch: Thomas, Mary. See Part I for descendants.

...2.2 Abraham Womack I b 1644 d Henrico Co., Va. Will dated Nov 1732 proved Oct 1733. Wife unknown. Some believe she may have been Sarah Sumercales, one headright named in his patent of 1688. ch: Abraham II, William, Thomas, Martha. See Part II for descendants.

...2.3 Richard Womack I b a 1650 d Henrico Co., Va 1664. m Mary Puckett b l647 Henrico Co., Va. ch: Richard, William, Elizabeth. See Part III for descendants.

...2.4 Thomas Womack b c1647 d Henrico Co., Va. 1697. m Mary Puckett. no ch. See Part V for his record.

...2.5 John Womack b c1653 d Prince George Co., Va. will 1725. m Mary (_______).
ch: John Jr., William, Richard, Abraham. See Part IV for his record.

...2.6 Ann Womack b 1657. m Will Puckett. ch: Elizabeth Ann, William, Richard, Womack. See Part V for her descendants.

...2.7 Mary Womack b 1659. m Thomas Puckett b c l658. ch: Thomas, Frances, William, John. See Part V for her descendants.

...2.8 Jane Womack b Henrico Co., Va. c 1662. m Henry Pugh Jr. b c 1665 d Henrico Co., Va. c 1710. Will 5 May 1709, prob 3 Mar 1711. ch: Ann. See Part V for her descendants.

Ref: Valentine Papers pp 1772,1774

William patented land in the Bermuda Hundred Section of Henrico Co., Va. in 1665.
Ref. CDXVII Century Applic. on William Womack b 1620 Eng/Va. in 1957.

William Womack on tithing list of Henrico Co., Va. in 1679. Va. Rec. Bk. 1677-92 pp 492, 716, 762. Va. State Library.
Also "Rand, Hale & Allied Families" by Nettie Hale Rand, 1940.

Other references:
Valentine Papers pp 1772, 1774.
William & Mary College Quarterly V24 p 208.
Virginia Historical Magazine, Minutes of the Council and General Court of Colonial Virginia p 369.
Chesterfield Co Va. p 48 by Lutz.

The descendants of William Womack remained essentially southern families. In the 1790 census there were at least 30 Womack families in Virginia. There were 11 in North Carolina and 2 in South Carolina. Later they went westward to Tennessee, Kentucky and Missouri and later still to the north- west and farther west. They went south to Alabama, Georgia, Texas and other states.

The Womack name is spelled with many variations in the records: Womack, Wamack, Wamoche, Wommack, Waamock, Wamocke and many others. The most used pronunciation of the families in North Carolina and Tennessee put the accent on the first syllable as Wom'ack. In a few instances an "r" was used in the first syllable as War'mack.


Friday, May 13, 2005 at 03:03:18 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ATTN: Pleasant Womack line yall might want to read this will

Petersburg, VA Wills

Will of Matilda Hall
(Will Book 2, page 215, Hustings Court, Petersburg,VA.)

I Matilda Hall of the Town of Petersburg and State of Virginia, do
hereby make my last Will and Testament in manner and form following
that is to say-
First I desire that no more of my personal estate be sold than what my
executor may think proper to sell, leaving it entirely to his option
to dispose of a part retain the whole.
Secondly I lend to my Best and only Friend for the term of his natural
life all my estate both real and personal goods chattes and effects of
whatever kind and this only Friend is Pleasant Warmack I know of no
other on Earth, Without the let hinderance or molestation of any person
or persons whatsoever for and during the said term of his natural life.
Thirdly after the death of the said Pleasant Wamerek, I give devise all
my estate both real & personal as herein before mentioned unto William
Edwerd Wamack, the son of the said Pleasant Wamack and the reversion
and reversions remainder and remainders, subject as before stated to
his fathers life with all the goods Effects and chattles whatsoever to
him the said Wm.Edwerd Wammuck and to heir for ever, And lastly I do
opoint my said friend Pleasant Wamock my exetor of this my last Will
and Testament.And it is my will and desire that he shall not be obliged
to give any security for his Executorships as aforesaid Hereby revoking
all other or former Wills or Testaments by me heretofore made in
witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my Seal this
ninth day of June in the year one thousand Eighteen hundred and twenty
fore Signed Sealed published and declared as for the Will or Testament
of the above named Matilda Hall.
Meltady(herxmark)Hall (Seal)
In presents of us
Witness test
Parham R.Heath
John Dennis
Dudley Brockell
Stephen Baranzzino

At a Hustings Court held for the Town of Petersburg at the Courthouse
of the said Town Thursday the 16th day of June 1825.
The last Will & Testament of Matilda Hall dec'd. was proved in open
Court by the oaths of Parham R.Heath and Stephen Baranzzino two of the
witnesses thereto and is ordered to be recorded.
Teste J.Grammer C.H.


Friday, May 13, 2005 at 03:19:37 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

COURT ORDERS - CHARLOTTE COUNTY, VA
BOOK FOURTEEN 1803 - 1805
4 March 1803

Pg 11 Pleasant Robards, Stephen Robards, Joshua Robards, William
Robards, Arthur Robards, Fanny Irby, who was Fanny Robards, Judy Chandler, who
was Judy Robards; children of Martha Robards who was Martha Womack; Plaintiffs
vs Thomas Womack, adm'r of William Womack, dec'd, and William Womack, son of
Francis Womack, dec'd, Avery Womack, Elizabeth Cauthorn, who was Elizabeth
Womack, John Spraeling and Mary his wife, which sd Mary was Mary Womack;
children of Abraham Womack, dec'd, William Womack, Mary Owen, who was Mary
Womack, and Martha Womack; children of Johann Womack and Francis Rice, Thomas
Rice, Samuel Rice, Abraham Rice, Johann Rice, Fanny Rice, Molly Cheatham who was
Molly Rice, Elizabeth Puckett, who was Elizabeth Rice; children of Sarah Rice,
dec'd, who was Sarah Womack, Francis Hamilton, Daniel Owen & Mary his wife, who
was Mary Hamilton, children of Judy Hamilton, who was Judy Womack, Mary Mann,
who was Mary Womack, Josiah Hatchett, Joseph Talbot and Martha, his wife who was
Martha Hatchett, Judith Funkening, who was Judith Hatchett, and William
Hatchett, children of Elizabeth Hatchett who was Elizabeth Womack; Defendants -
a suit in chancery.
. . . ordered that the land and slaves be sold and the proceeds be
divided into nine parts , one ninth to the heirs of Martha Robards; one ninth to
Thomas Womack; one ninth to William Womack, son of Francis Womack; one ninth to
the heirs of Abraham Womack; one ninth to the heirs of Johann Womack; one ninth
to the heirs of Sarah Rice; One ninth to the heirs of Judith Hamilton; one ninth
to the heirs of Elizabeth Hatchett; one ninth to Mary Mann -- brothers &
sisters of the intestate.

6 June 1803

Pg 40 An indenture between David Blankenship & Nancy his wife one the
one part and Lillous (?) Womack one the other part.


Friday, May 13, 2005 at 04:12:11 (PDT)
Doretta
Donreec@EKNS.net

Yesterday I forgot to give a third source that was mentioned by John Brown on his Roots Web Site. It was MAGAZINE OF VIRGINIA GENEALOGY, Vol 32, PAGES 24,30,129. It was for that dispute between Abraham Womack and William Clarke.--- Doretta


Friday, May 13, 2005 at 04:13:56 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Will of Sarah Kyle, abstracted, 1822 - Botetourt Co. VA

Will of Sarah Kyle, widow of William Kyle(Abstract)
Entered: Botetourt County Will Book September Court 1833

27th day of May 1822"
"I, Sarah Kyle, widow of William Kyle deceased........"
leave to:
daughters
Sally Rowland - slave Rachael
Harriet Price $100
grandchildren
Charlotte Rowland, if deceased to mother Sally Rowland
Maria Poage if deceased to sister Sarah Poage
Harriet Dickinson if deceased to sister Caroline
Robert Pitzer if deceased to brother James Pitzer
Joseph Kyle Womack if deceased to sister Sarah Ann Womack
Sarah Ann Beale if deceased to brother William Beale

19 October 1824 Codicil
Removes Harriet Price as an heir as she has been given her amount

29 Sept 1828
Adds son James Kyle, accounts he manages for her " principal is not to be called due for 12
months", James is to receive the interest

June 12, 1833
Takes the gifts left to the grandchildren and leaves it to their mothers (mothers of Poage and
Pitzer grandchildren are deceased)
Charlotte Rowland to Sarah Rowland
Harriott Dickinson to Charlotte Dickinson
Joseph Kyle Womack to Jane Womack
Sarah Ann Beale to Ann Beale
Maria granddaughter if she dies to sister Caroline Allen instead of sister Sarah "who has
departed this world"
Robert Pitzer "shall share equally with his brother James"
Adds son James Kyle and son-in-law Charles Beale to son-in-laws George Poage and John Dickinson
as executors

Sept Court, 1833, Botetourt Co, VA
"Sarah Kyle has made a donation Coura Mortis to four daughters Sarah Rowland, Jane Womack, Ann
Beale, Charlotte Dickinson, the Court orders it to be entered upon the record that on the 16
August 1833 and immediately previous to her death she gave to her said daughters all her
household furniture with the exception of one Bed and furniture which was given to Harriet Kyle
wife of James Kyle and all her money an homo except Ten dollars was given to her granddaughter
Charlotte Kyle."



Friday, May 13, 2005 at 06:17:43 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@netzero.com

"The first known mention of a Womack was in England, where Henry
Womack was vicar of Great Ellingham in the County of Norfolk about
1601."
This statement is totally incorrect. I have a transcript, small tho it is, of a Womack will from 1535, there there are two wills on Womacks dated in the 1580's in Norfolk records, I have Arthur's will from ca. 1607, and the aforesaid Henry's from 1627ish(he had a son named William)...
Then we have William Wamuke as an alumni of Cambridge, being born ca 1475 or earlier. At one time I read something about a tax record on Johann or Johannes Wombok sometime in thelate 1300's, 1370's I think..
I seen also the statement that the name may have derived from a Dutch name,"Walmack," altho I havent been able to find any evidence of that...However, there is a Womack in England whose grandfather came from the Netherlands.
As far as where the name originated, anyone's guess is as good as the others.When doing the censuses, I found many countries of birth for Womack or similar names - Here are some of them:

ACADIA AUSTRALIA AUSTRIA BELGIUM BOHEMIA CANADA CROATIA CZECHOSLOVAKIA DENMARK ENDLAND FINLAND GERMANY GALICIA-GALIZIEN-HALYCHYNA HOLLAND HUNGARY IRELAND ITALY LITHUANIA MORAVIA NORWAY PHILIPPINES POLAND PRUSSIA RUSSIA SCOTLAND SLOVAKIA SWEDEN SWITZERLAND SYRAN-ARAB-REPUBLIC TURKEY WALES -

While some of the names may later prove not WOMACK as we know it - some are exact spellings all were too close to discount at this time.
As for the name variations there are 80 some odd listed here - but there are more - these are mainly from the US and England:
48 VARIATIONS IN THE US!!(So far!)

WALMACK, WAMAC, WAMACH, WAMACK, WAMMACK, WAMUCK,
WAMMUCK, WARMACK, WAMEC, WAMECK, WAMIC, WAMICK,
WAMOCK, WAMOK, WAMOX, WAYMACK, WAYMOCK WEMACK, WEYMACK,
WIMIC, WIMMICK, WOLMACK, WOMAC, WOMACH, WOMACK, WOMMACK,
WOMACKS, WOMACQUE, WOMAK, WOMAX, WOMECK, WOMECKE, WOMIC,
WOMICK, WOMMICK, WOMOCK, WOMMOCK, WOMUCK, WOMMUCK,
WORMACH, WORMACK, WORMICK, WORMECK, WORMIK, WORNMACK,
WUMAC, WUMACK, WYOMACK

Note: Checking on Wormeck, it is definitely German - all the names of the
parents - two sets are of German origin.. I also found one Womack, a female,
born in Brandenburg, Germany around the late 1890's. I have previously
found a Womack male born in or around Berlin, Germany, late 1890's also.
I also found sometime back a female Womack born in 1818 or thereabouts in
Denmark - Germany one other possible - WOMBECK

49 VARIATIONS IN THE UK!!(So far!)
(Actually, there may be
couple more not listed yet.

WAIMICH, WAMOCK, WAMUKE, WAYMACK, WAYMAK, WAYMOUCH,WEMOCK, WEYMACK, WEYMECK,
WHOMAC, WHOMACK, WHOMIC, WHOMACH,WHYMACH, WHYMOCK, WIMACK, WIMICK, WIMOCK,
WIMMOCK, WOMACH, WOMACK, WOMACKE, WOMAK, WOMAKS, WOMICK, WOMAX, WOMEK, WOMECK,
WOMOCK, WOMOCKE, WOMOK, WOMUCK, WOMAKC, WOMVCK, WOMMACK, WOMMACKE, WOMMAKE,
WOMMOCK, WOMMOCKE, WOOMACH, WOOMACK, WOOMMACK, WOOMACKE, WOOMOCK,
WOOMMOCK , WOOMMAX, WOORMMOCK, WOYMMOCKE, WYMACK


One I found on 1895 IA state census--WOMACHKA, husband and
wife both born Bohemia(CZECH) You might find this interesting
http://www.iarelative.com/czech/

And just remember, there are 3 countries that share a similar history:
Australia, Canada and the US - We all had our cowboys and indians
(the Aborigines being the indians in Australia); and are English
speaking (for the most part)countries.


Friday, May 13, 2005 at 11:10:26 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

To all, A beautiful lady has answered the call and gone home to be with her Savior.

I received a call from Neysa Powell Thursday she was in Ada Oklahoma. Her mother Nyda Ruth Womack passed away Thursday May 12, 2005. The funeral, grave side services, will be at the Sunset Memorial Gardens, Odessa TX Monday May 16 at 2pm. She will be laid to rest next to her husband Jack Carl Womack.
Nyda Ruth Echols b.January 10, 1931 in Duncan, Stevens Co. Oklahoma to Allen Wilson Echols and Ethel Estell Hall. Nyda and Jack Carl Womack were married October 16, 1947 in Lovington New Mexico. Nyda had been a nurse for 30 years, giving herself to comfort others. She loved her family, they were the light of her life and the love of her heart. She was loved by all that knew her.
Nyda and Jack had two children, Neysa Jean and Kirk Allen Womack.
Jack Carl Womack died September 10, 1987 in ElPaso TX during By-Pass surgery and is interned in Sunset Memorial Gardens between Odessa and Midland.
Nyda had been in ill health for some time now and Neysa and Dwayne had gone to Ada for a visit before Mothers Day.

With Loving Sympathy

No matter how deep the shadow,
Or how long and dark the night,
There is a loving Father
Who keeps us in his sight;
So while the days are saddened
And your eyes with tears are dim,
Seek out His tender comfort,
And find your rest in Him.
Jack
Note; Jack Carl Womack was the son of Wendle Kirkendal Womack (Kirk Sr.) and Lena Taylor and descendant of Thomas and Louvisa Rice Womack


Saturday, May 14, 2005 at 06:37:26 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

I found this descending chart in a book written by Margaret Miriam Strong (Mrs. Philip H. Hale), b. 1855. The book was published in 1928 St. Louis MO.

I. William Womack, of E. Dereham, County, Norfork, England

II. Arthur Womack, A. M., Rector Lopham County, Norfolk, 1578, married at Hargham, Norfolk, May 12, 1579, Alice Rowse; buried at Lopham, June 18, 1607.

III. Lawrence Womack, D. D., Rector of Lopham County, Norfolk, 1607 to 1642, and of Fersfield, 1642. Married __________. Died 1642

IV. Lawrence Womack, born County Norfolk, May 12, 1612, M. A., Cambridge, 1633; Chaplain to Lord Paget, had benefice in west of England, where he attained fame by his preaching. Little known of him from 1648 to 1660. In 1660 a prebend in Hereford Cathedral; in 1660, Dec. 8, Arch deacon of Suffolk; in 1662, D. D.; in 1663 prebend of Ely Cathedral; in 1683 consecrated Bishop of St. David's. Was noted for his publications supporting the liturgy, etc. Had a fine collection of books. Married, first, ________; second, in West Bradford, Nov 18, 1668, Anne, daughter of John Hill and widow of Edward Alymer, of Claydon County, Suffolk; third, at St. Bartholomew, the Less, London, April 15, 1670, Katherine Corbett, of Norwick, age 40. She was still living in 1697. By third marriage no children; by second, a daughter, Anne, who died in 1685. By first, at least one son, Edward. Lawrence Womack died in Westminister, Nov 7, 1685; buried at St. Margaret's Church, London, where there is a tablet to his memory. Left his books and property to his nephew, Lawrence Womack, Rector of Castor, of Yarmouth.

V. Edward Womack, born March 12, 1653; died in Sufolk, England, Prince Edward County, Virginia. Moved to George in 1765. (typed as printed)
Sept. 8 1723. Married ________. Children were:

VI. Abry or Abraham Womack, also called Ashby. Born Aug 15, 1685. Died in Virginia, Feb 4, 1756. Came from England to Virginia. Married _________.

VII. Richard Womack, born Dec 7, 1710, in England. Lived in (didn't finish this)

VIII. Sarah Womack, sister of Sherwood and Cicely Womack, born about 1729; married about 1746, to James Cody.

IX. Mary Cody, born in 1746. Married George Lumpkin in 1762.

X. John Lumpkin, born 1763; married 1780, Lucy Hopson. John Lumpkin, moved to Georgia and formed the first Wilkes County, jury in 1784.

XI. John Lumpkin, born Oct. 4, 1785; married Anne Ragland Hopson, Dec 15, 1807. Both Johns died in Oglethorpe County, GA.

XII. Mary Ann Lumpkin, born ______; married J. M. Strong.

XIII. Twelfth child was Margaret Miriam Strong, born May 18th, 1855. Married Philip H. Hale, of London, England, Feb. 22, 1880.


Saturday, May 14, 2005 at 13:01:27 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@netzero.com

Beth

The lady is quite wrong on Bishop Lawrence Womack having a son Edward that survived him and died in VA (see below) - male heir was nephew also named Lawrence son of brother John.. his children are named below in the Parish Register.
His first wife was Anne as shown (last name unknown); Second was Anne Aylo(m)er (also shown as Aylmer)- Actually she was a Widow of a man named Aylmer.
Her maiden name is purported to be Hill - married or license taken, Nov 18, 1668; Katherine Corbett was third marriage or license taken Apr 25 1670.

Source for marriages 2 and 3: Marriage Licenses of Archbishop of Cantebury London (indicates these dates were when licenses taken)

Check out: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rgwomack/lopham.htm and also
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rgwomack/mautbywomacks.htm

Note: two daughters by first wife - and the statement about survivors...
Here's more from the Horringer Suffolk Parish Register about Womacks. Baptism: "Ann dauter of Larrance and Ann Womack" August 21 1665 making it clear her birth and burial of her mother August 26 1665 are linked, as the Biographical Notes in the volume also say. The Biographical Notes about the Bishop also say "Another child Mary died in infancy" thus explaining that one, and showing that couple did have other kids. But it also says "no children survived him". This is very interesting and not in the DNB article: "In 1642 he succeeded his father at Lopham, but was soon deprived of it. Before that he had been living at Quidenham as chaplain to the Holland family".

Yeah I know a bit long winded and not to discount your info- just to add to.
S


Saturday, May 14, 2005 at 14:02:57 (PDT)
Jamie
birls@boone.net

Looking for info on Womack's in NC in 1700-early 1800's. Specifically in Johnston/Wake/Cumberland Co (NC) Esp. if anyone has any confirmed evidence that connects the Womack's with the Rowland family in those counties. There are several Willie Womack's that I'm having trouble sorting out too (in these counties) if anyone can help me with that! Lines I'm looking at: John Womack d. abt 1765 Johnston Co, NC & wife Sarah,(this area of Johnston Co later became Wake Co, only know of 1 son Benjamin: need to know of other children. Benjamin was born bef 1745 and died abt 1790-91 in Cumberland Co NC: he was married to Ann; one son known: Willie born abt 1790-91, died abt 1820 married Frances Jones in Wake Co 1817; they had one son Benjamin born abt 1818-19. Thanks for any help anyone can give!


Saturday, May 14, 2005 at 15:56:02 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

You know, Sam, I'm not half as intelligent as you, and I indicated it by making an assumption in genealogy. Mrs. Hale was quite an educated lady for her time, and she married a gentlemen who was born in London. Perhaps she had the opportunity of enhancing her endeavor by researching in England while visiting with his family or while studying abroad. Her work included many letters of correspondence with descendants of her lines, but there were no sources for early data you discount. Instead of disproving her family line, we should look at the positive side of the Wormack genealogy in the book.......what new information did we learn?


Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 06:30:37 (PDT)
Tammy
willys41.1@juno.com

'Morning,

I was wondering, does anyone know anything about the "Womack Point" mentioned in the index of Life & Times from the Clay County, Arkansas Courier Newspaper? I ran across that yesterday on a website while doing my Womack research. It caught my eye and thought maybe some might know something about that? I haven't yet ordered the book but was wondering if anyone had heard of it? All is says in the index is 'Womack Point'. I thought it was interesting. Also I finally got all those old receipts scanned, from the 1700 & 1800's which mention Jacob and Johnson Womack. Now the receipts do not mention the 'where' but we're pretty sure they, or at least, some, pertain to Arkansas, because some of the Sheriff's names written on the receipts were traced back to Arkansas.


Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 10:06:59 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@netzero.com

Beth
Not insinuating a plus or minus intelligence for anyone - just going with the fact of the Bishops Will, and the info from Rog's two webbers I listed below..

There is a clue or hint we all need to explore - that of an alleged Elizabeth Womack, father Thomas - who was born ca 1595, married a William Sharpe and came to the colonies about Aug 1620 - Sharpe later died and she married a man named Parker - then he died and she married a Baugh -- Somewhere there is evidence she had headrights in her own name - but no one was named -

The only info I have of Elizabeth being a Womack came from Sharpe/Baugh researchers - but surmising she was and some of those headrights were relatives she brought over??..I believe I remmeber they were in the 1630's...


Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 12:27:17 (PDT)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

Beth, Sam, and all interested in early Womacks,

I can't tell you how many patents I have read through or tried to read at the Library of Virginia in search of the one mentioned by Martha McDaniel Thompsom, ie. William Womack, the Immigrant, patented land in 1665 at Bermuda Hundred Section of Henrico Co VA. I haven't read every patent and some were just unreadable, but I have not been able to find this patent. This is the one referenced by the Colonial Dames, etc.

The last time someone gave a clue about "Margaret Weym'ke", I searched for this patent and found it.

Title Jones, David.
Publication 20 November 1646.
Gen. note "See page 340 of this book no. 2 in the abstract book, under the title "No Country."
[Patent Book 2 page 340: nothing of interest, dwc.]
Other Format Available on microfilm. Virginia State Land Office. Patents 1-42, reels 1-41.
Related See also the following surname(s): Joanes.
Note Location: Charles City County.
Description: 650 acres a neck of land, lying between two creeks opposite against Taphanna Marsh; upon the northerly side of the river. .
Source: Land Office Patents No. 2, 1643-1651, p. 94 (Reel 2).
Three hundred (300a) of this land was formerly granted to David Jones on the 4th day of July 1635.

The following is one of seven persons listed as a headright in the above patent. Patent Book 2 page 94.
Margaret Weym'ke or Woym'ke or
Margaret Weymeke or Woymeke or
Mararet Weymlke or Woymlke.

I wrote all those possible spellings, because I couldn't be sure of the writing.
I didn't abstract the other headrights, wish I had, because now I can't remember if I didn't because they didn't ring any bells or whether it was just an oversight. I'll have to go back and recheck. Also, I didn't try and figure out where this land is today.

Elizabeth Womack father Thomas is a new clue. I have never heard this before.


Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 18:14:10 (PDT)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

Re: Elizabeth (Womack) Sharpe, Parker, Baugh.
From Library of Virginia

Title Parker, Elizabeth.
Publication 12 February 1635.
Gen. note Parker, Elizabeth, widow
Location: Henrico County.
Description: 200 acres between the land granted by patent unto Wm. Dawkes on the east and the Gleab land on the west.
Source: Land Office Patents No. 1, 1623-1643 (v.1 & 2), p. 330 (Reel 1).
[It appears Elizabeth Parker was granted the first 100 acres - due unto her in right of her first husband William Sharpe who was ?orginial planter? by Thomas Dale his governor and 100 acres by and for the transportation of two servants ?Gilbert Platt? ?John Nornman?
--------
Title Parker, Elizabeth.
Publication 11 July 1636.
Note Location: Henrico County.
Description: 500 acres between Curles and Varinaes So. upon the main river &c.
Source: Land Office Patents No. 1, 1623-1643 (v.1 & 2), p. 373 (Reel 1).
[The said 500 acres being due unto her the said Elizabeth Parker as followeth viz. in right of her late husband ?Sarjarent William Sharpe? for transportation of....
[none of the names are Womack]
-----------
Title Parker, Elizabeth.
Publication 17 August 1637.
Note Location: Henrico County.
Description: 950 acres joining easterly upon Fower mile Creeke, westerly upon the land of Seth Ward.
Source: Land Office Patents No. 1, 1623-1643 (v.1 & 2), p. 454 (Reel 1).
[none of the names look like Womack]


Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 19:29:44 (PDT)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

Sam and Doretta,

Thanks for the additional information on Elizabeth Womack Sharpe Parker Baugh.
I ran a search on Samuel and Isaac Sharpe and didn't find anything of interest.
While reading some information a few days ago at LVA, it stated that early on the patents/land grants were hung on a string as they were granted and recorded when they got to it; in using this process many were lost which may explain why we can't find where the early Womacks entered the country.

Doretta,

I haven't forgotten the Halifax index, just lazy. It is very small print and tedious work. My eyesight even with glasses is less than desirable.


Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 19:48:12 (PDT)
doretta
Donreec@EKNS.net

Doris --- Elizabeth Womack maybe arrived on the ship "BONAVENTURE". It seems she married William Sharpe, Thomas Parker, and William Baugh. What order or the dates she married, I don't know. I believe the above ship carried females to be wives of the single men in the colony. I don't know if Elizabeth was a widow or maiden or a married woman arriving with husband. Anyway a son of hers, William Baugh married Jane Hatcher and maybe also Jane Byrd, daughter of William Byrd and Maria Horsmanden. Jane Hatcher and William Baugh had a daughter Priscilla who married William Farrar/Farrah. Elizabeth Womack and William Baugh maybe had a son James who married Elizabeth Ashbrook and they had a daughter named Elizabeth who married Edward Hill. Edward Hill was the son of Ann Clark/Clarke and James Hill. Ann Clark/Clarke maybe also married William Pride, son of William Pride and Jane Halcott. William Pride and Jane Halcott also had a son John who married Susannah Puckett and their son William Pride married Elizabeth Baugh who also married Edwaed Hill. Also Halcott Pride, brother of William and John had a daughter Mary Pride who married Cadwaller Jones. I have no idea who David Jones is and if he is connected. This is all from several sites on Roots Web and needs proving, but maybe there are some clues mixed in with all those William fellows. ---Doretta


Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 19:58:42 (PDT)
Phyllis E. (Womack) Kinder
pekinder@mindspring.com
None


I am still looking for information on my Womack Great Grandparents. My father's name was Elmer Lewis Womack Jr., born April 23, 1916 to Elmer (Lewis or Louis) Womack and Minnie Belle McGee. Elmer Lewis Womack and Minnie Belle McGee were married December 19, 1909 in Temple, Comanche County, now it is Cotton County, Oklahoma. In 1910 Census, it shows Elmer Lewis Womack to be born in Colorado about 1877 and his father was born in South Carolina. His wife, Minnie Belle McGee was born in Montepelier, Clay County, Mississippi on January 13, 1885 to William Alexander McGee Jr. and Nancy Ann Thornton. I am looking for information on my Great Grandfather Womack and his wife. Also information on when and where my Grandfather, Elmer Lewis Womack was born in Colorado.

If anyone has any information on an Elmer (Lewis or Louis) Womack, born about 1877 in Colorado, please let me know. Thanks, Phyllis.



Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 20:44:18 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@netzero.com

Doretta - I sent a little bit more than this to Doris - was quite lengthy - but this is the major part of it --

Elizabeth Womack
Birth: About 1595 London, London, England Using the age in the
muster below she would have been born about 1599/1600.
Death: Before 01 FEB 1650 VA
Father: Thomas Womack
Marriages:
(1) William Sharp After 1634 Of, , , Virginia( date incorrect they had two children on the 1624/25 muster).
(2) Thomas Parker abt 1634 VA - no known children
(3) William Baugh aft 1638 VA - had children

From: Henrico County, Virginia: Beginnings of Its Families: Part I
William Clayton Torrence
William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine, Vol. 24, No. 2.
(Oct., 1915), pp. 116-142.

List of the Livinge & Dead in Virginia Feb. 16, 1623."(2)
A List of the Livinge. At the Colledg Land.(3)

Seriant (Sergeant) William Sharp, Mrs. Sharp

"The Must(er) of the Inhabitants of the Colledge: Land in Virginia taken
the 23th of Janery 1624 (1625)"
William Sharp, aged 40, came in the Starr in May----, Elizabeth, his wife, aged 25, in the Bonaventure, August 1620, Isaac, his son, aged 2 and Samuel, his son, aged 2 months. Sharp's servant, Richard Vause, aged 20, came in the Jonathan, May 1620(1). [based on childrens ages, they had to have been born here][sam]

Thomas Parker in the Neptune I listed this because he may be her second. Which apparently was short lived -

"Gilbert Platt is first mentioned as a "servant" imported by Elizabeth Parker, widow, in a patent which received 12 February 1635." I knew there were others and thanks for bringing them in.. based on this, her marriage to Parker was quite short lived..

William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine, Vol. 24, No. 3.
(Jan., 1916), pp. 202-210.
(4) Ibid., VII, p. 424, and Stanard's Some Emigrants to Virginia, p. 5.
In the Virginia Magazine, etc., Vol. XIX, p. 193, is mention of William
Baugh, late of London, now gone into Virginia (date 5 June, 1639). Mr.
Stanard adds that "probabaly this is William Baugh who was born about
1610 and was a justice of Henrico County in 1656."

There was a Thomas Womack, son of Hugh (great gramps of the Bishop) who had a daughter named Elizabeth born around 1601 - the coincidence is there; but no substantiation...


Monday, May 16, 2005 at 05:46:59 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

I stand corrected on the Thomas, son of Hugh, having a daughter Elizabeth -
Twas Arthur his brother - no known children of Thomas (yet)..


Monday, May 16, 2005 at 10:07:52 (PDT)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

Here is the 1930 Fedral Census. I have correntions at the end as these are my family members and the census is wrong on these dates. I hope it helps someone.

1930 KANSAS FEDERAL CENSUS

Name Home in 1930 Est State Relationship to (City,County,State) YOB Born Race Gender Head of Household


Ralph J Womack Humboldt, Allen, KS abt 1895 Kansas White Head Regina H Womack Humboldt, Allen, KS abt 1898 Wife Ralph J Womack Humboldt, Allen, KS abt 1919 Son Josephine R Womack Humboldt, Allen, KS abt 1921 Daughter John J Womack Humboldt, Allen, KS abt 1922 Son Lawrence W Womack Humboldt, Allen, KS abt 1924 Son Bernard J Womack Humboldt, Allen, KS abt 1926 Son Paul E Womack Humboldt, Allen, KS abt 1927 Son William E Womack Humboldt, Allen, KS abt 1929 Son Charles M Womack Iola, Allen, KS abt 1894 Kansas White Head Ester J Womack Iola, Allen, KS abt 1893 Wife William N Womack Iola, Allen, KS abt 1920 Son Robert E Womack Iola, Allen, KS abt 1922 Son R Rex Womack Iola, Allen, KS abt 1927 Son Ross A Womack Iola, Allen, KS abt 1921 Daughter Mary D Wamack Iola, Allen, KS abt 1872 Canada White Head Francis W Womack Iola, Allen, KS abt 1902 Kansas White Head Doris A Womack Iola, Allen, KS abt 1900 Wife John W Womack Iola, Allen, KS abt 1925 Son Jack F Womack Iola, Allen, KS abt 1929 Son Lulie L Womack Logan, Allen, KS abt 1901 Missouri White Head Edna Womack Logan, Allen, KS abt 1901 Wife Loe A Womack Logan, Allen, KS abt 1856 Missouri White Head Prudence Ann Womack Logan, Allen, KS abt 1863 Wife Francis Womack Clarence, Barton, KS abt 1904 Missouri White Head Alpha Womack Clarence, Barton, KS abt 1909 Wife Mary C Womack Clarence, Barton, KS abt 1927 Daughter David E Wammack Galena, Cherokee, KS abt 1903 Arkansas White Head Mabel I Wammack Galena, Cherokee, KS abt 1909 Wife David E Wammack Galena, Cherokee, KS abt 1925 Son Walter E Wammack Galena, Cherokee, KS abt 1927 Son Thelma M Wammack Galena, Cherokee, KS abt 1929 Daughter Richard A Wammack Lowell, Cherokee, KS abt 1853 Tennessee White Head Mattie D Wammack Lowell, Cherokee, KS abt 1869 Wife Harlan C Wammack Shawnee, Cherokee, KS abt 1898 Texas White Head Edna M Wammack Shawnee, Cherokee, KS abt 1910 Wife Virgil Wammack Shawnee, Cherokee, KS abt 1927 Son Howard Wammack Shawnee, Cherokee, KS abt 1928 Son Dorsey Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1877 Missouri White Head Mabel Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1877 Wife Adrian Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1915 Son Clifford Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1907 Missouri White Head Edith Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1908 Wife Phyllis J Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1928 Daughter Harold Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1923 Son Fred Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1888 Missouri White Head Della Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1902 Wife Cearl Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1913 Son Jerome Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1874 Missouri White Head Ida Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1870 Wife Helen Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1912 Daughter Mercedes Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1915 Daughter Warren Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1910 Kansas White Head Kathleen Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1912 Wife Richard H Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1884 Missouri White Head Ellen M Womack Arkansas, Cowley, KS abt 1877 Wife Grace Womacks Atlanta, Cowley, KS abt 1914 Kansas White Stepdaughter Donald Womacks Atlanta, Cowley, KS abt 1917 Stepson S C Womacks Atlanta, Cowley, KS abt 1920 Stepson Eugene L Womacks Omnia, Cowley, KS abt 1909 Kansas White Head Louise H Womacks Omnia, Cowley, KS abt 1909 Wife Carmen L Womacks Omnia, Cowley, KS abt 1929 Daughter Carol J Womacks Omnia, Cowley, KS abt 1929 Daughter Thompson L Wammack Finley, Decatur, KS abt 1888 Kansas White Head Mary L Wammack Finley, Decatur, KS abt 1890 Wife Rosa M Wammack Finley, Decatur, KS abt 1916 Daughter Freida A Wammack Finley, Decatur, KS abt 1920 Daughter Gilbert C Wammack Finley, Decatur, KS abt 1922 Son Lewis B Wommack Finley, Decatur, KS abt 1890 Kansas White Head Goldie T Wommack Finley, Decatur, KS abt 1894 Wife Lewis O Wommack Finley, Decatur, KS abt 1918 Son Phyllis L Wommack Finley, Decatur, KS abt 1926 Daughter Maylon E Wommack Finley, Decatur, KS abt 1928 Son Clarine Wammack Finley, Decatur, KS abt 1866 Wisconsin White Head Winema Wammack Finley, Decatur, KS abt 1892 Daughter Glenn F Womack Jennings, Decatur, KS abt 1907 Czechoslovakia White Farm Hand Frank Womacks Wild Cat, Elk, KS abt 1897 Missouri White Head Dorris Womacks Wild Cat, Elk, KS abt 1895 Wife Sue Louise Womacks Wild Cat, Elk, KS abt 1922 Daughter Mary Wamack Junction, Geary, KS abt 1871 Texas White Head Earl D Womack Smokey Hill, Geary, KS abt 1900 Oklahoma White Head Stella E Womack Smokey Hill, Geary, KS abt 1914 Wife Beatrice M Womack Smokey Hill, Geary, KS abt 1922 Daughter Harley B Womsck Ulysses, Grant, KS abt 1894 North Carolina White Lodger Hattie G Womsck Ulysses, Grant, KS abt 1893 Indiana White Lodger Ernest Womick Ulysses, Grant, KS abt 1905 Missouri White Lodger Lyul Wommack Hoosier, Kingman, KS abt 1890 Missouri White Head Bertha Wommack Hoosier, Kingman, KS abt 1896 Wife Jodie J Wommack Parsons, Labette, KS abt 1883 Missouri White Head Nola E Wommack Parsons, Labette, KS abt 1883 Wife Lucille L Wommack Parsons, Labette, KS abt 1911 Daughter Dorothy L Wommack Parsons, Labette, KS abt 1913 Daughter Cyril W Wammack Summit, Marion, KS abt 1904 Missouri White Head Virginia Wammack Summit, Marion, KS abt 1904 Wife Sarah Lee Wammack Summit, Marion, KS Daughter George F Womack Elkhart, Morton, KS abt 1892 Kansas White Head Elsie M Womack Elkhart, Morton, KS abt 1892 Wife Doris M Womack Elkhart, Morton, KS abt 1912 Stepdaughter Helen Womack Elkhart, Morton, KS abt 1916 Daughter Lewis Womack Elkhart, Morton, KS abt 1917 Stepson Jewel Womack Elkhart, Morton, KS abt 1917 Daughter James J Womack Elkhart, Morton, KS abt 1848 Father George E Womack Rolla, Morton, KS abt 1921 Kansas White Nephew Francis C Womack Rolla, Morton, KS abt 1899 Texas White Head Hulda W Womack Rolla, Morton, KS abt 1899 Wife Claude F Womack Rolla, Morton, KS abt 1920 Son John F Womack Rolla, Morton, KS abt 1923 Son Morris L Womack Rolla, Morton, KS abt 1926 Son Lillian M Womack Rolla, Morton, KS abt 1929 Daughter Boyd Womack Sylvia, Reno, KS abt 1905 Kansas White Lodger William Womack Sylvia, Reno, KS abt 1875 Missouri White Head Margaret Womack Sylvia, Reno, KS abt 1874 Wife William Womack Sylvia, Reno, KS abt 1897 Son Emery Womack Sylvia, Reno, KS abt 1910 Son Stella Womack Sylvia, Reno, KS abt 1916 Daughter Joel E Womack Sylvia, Reno, KS abt 1880 Missouri White Head Lucy Womack Sylvia, Reno, KS abt 1877 Wife Floyd Womack Sylvia, Reno, KS abt 1907 Son Rex Womack Salina, Saline, KS abt 1911 Kansas White Roomer Nellie Womack Salina, Saline, KS abt 1912 Kansas White Roomer Levi L Womack Kechi, Sedgwick, KS abt 1903 Oklahoma White Head Mabel I Womack Kechi, Sedgwick, KS abt 1903 Wife Lloyd W Womack Kechi, Sedgwick, KS abt 1925 Son Alvina M Womack Kechi, Sedgwick, KS abt 1927 Daughter Clevis L Womack Kechi, Sedgwick, KS abt 1919 Daughter Roy Womacks Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1894 Kansas White Head Nell Womacks Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1901 Wife Forest Les Womacks Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1920 Son Frances Womacks Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1922 Daughter Forrest L Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1867 Ohio White Head Eliza Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1873 Wife Frank Womacks Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1898 Kansas White Son Richard E Womacks Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1924 Grandson Earnest Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1905 Missouri White Roomer Gladis Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1909 Arkansas White Roomer Ted Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1902 Indiana White Head Geneveie Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1908 Wife Edwin Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1889 Arkansas White Head Lora Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1894 Wife Idelia Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1911 Daughter Thelma Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1913 Daughter Edwin Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1919 Son Bert Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1891 Kansas White Head Mary Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1893 Wife Virginia Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1918 Daughter Max Womack Wichita, Sedgwick, KS abt 1924 Son Jack Wommack Liberal, Seward, KS abt 1884 Tennessee White Head Willard Wommack Avon, Sumner, KS abt 1899 Missouri White Head Fannie Wommack Avon, Sumner, KS abt 1896 Wife Bonnie Wommack Avon, Sumner, KS abt 1925 Daughter James Womack Kansas City, Wyandotte, KS abt 1896 Texas Negro Head V Jennie Womack Kansas City, Wyandotte, KS abt 1900 Wife Lula Womack Kansas City, Wyandotte, KS abt 1874 Missouri White Head Roy B Womack Kansas City, Wyandotte, KS abt 1896 Son

MY CORRECTIONS:
Earl Dewey Womack March 6, 1900

Stella Elizabeth Pratt May 6, 1913

Mary Jeanette Raines-Womack Aug 15, 1870

Beatrice Mae Womack Nov 2, 1929

All living in Juction City KS, Geary County

Erin


Monday, May 16, 2005 at 18:46:42 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ netzero.com

Censuses -
to save yourselves some time - go to my web page and click in on censuses - every Womack I could find from 1790 thru 1930 is there by year, state, county --assuredly corrections are in order as the takers werent too fastidious with their data..send corrections and I will post...

Also, on that same page is a link to Womack Doctors - if you know of any others and can provide verification they were doctors - send to me and I will post..


Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 11:44:26 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@netzero.com

Anyone having information on a George Grant Womack(various spellings) b. Jun 5 1863 MO, d. Haines, Baker, OR Jan 17 1940; spouse Dora House b. abt 1868 MO
d. same place Jun 9 1934 - they were married Sep 11 1887, Worth Co MO.
Son George Donald b. abt 1904, in ID. There probably are other children but
none on 1910 census but this one. 1920 census has him as G Donald -- If you have info - please sent to me with a cc to GSJAENSCH@MSN.COM; or to Gary with a cc to me - we have her parents already -- thanks, danke schoen, muchas gracias and all that....


Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 11:04:04 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Nuther mystery:

Jethro Womack, b. Dec 13, 1857, Terre Haute MO(sic); m. in Blaine Co ID Emma Hunton Jul 6 1894. She was b.abt 1862,1874 or 1877 depending on which record you choose. Supposedly also b.in MO. They had 3 chilluns-Mabel in 1892; Jethro 1895, and Frank abt 1897. All b. ID

By the 1900 census, Emma had remarried an Edwin P McWilliams and had a 1 year old son. The 3 Womack children were with her. She was shown as age 22....which would, if correct, would show she had her first child, Mabel at the age of about 14.

Apparently she and Jethro divorced - as Jethro married an Ida or Addie Farris on
Jan 2 1900. The marriage record shows Ida, the 1920 census shows her as Addie,
they have a son Charlie age 19 at that time. Jethro died in 1923.

Edwin and Emma divorced apparently; as in 1920 he is shown with a son 11, dau 9;
as divorced (1920, Kitsap Co WA).

Her maiden name is unknown. She and Jethro both were supposedly born in Clark Co MO - one family with an Emma, aged 18, 1880 Clark Co census, was that of a Frank Halleck - Note the naming of the 2 sons.

Just for curiosity sake, would like to know if anyone has anything on her correct birth day or year - what happened to her after 1910?
Thankee


Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 22:23:11 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@netzero.com

I found her last name it was Hunt - still need to know what happened to her after 1910..


Friday, May 20, 2005 at 08:38:32 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@netzero.com

Thot y'all all might like to see this:
28.
1535 James Wannoke Rector of Yaxham to be buried in the chauncell before
St Peter in Yaxham..
...onto the church of St Peter in Yaxham...in reperacon xs....
in the Cathedrall Church in Norwich of the holy trinite xxd....
to everyone of the Gylde in Yaxham iiis.iiiid....
to the Church of Yaxham ... to bye a peyer of chalis xls....
to the iiii ordres of Fryers in Norwich houses iiis.iiiid...
to the house of seke men in ..Norwich gates xiid...
at my burial day every prest have ivd. & every man woman and child id....
I will have an honest prest to syng for my sowls & my friends sowles in the
church of Yaxham.. & he to have vil.xiiis.iiiid.
to ye mending of ye hye wayes in
Yaxham wher ned ye to be don iiis.iiiid....
that myn ececutours shall have the profight of my
benefice of Yaxham from the day of my deth unto th Annunciation of our
Lady next coming....
to John Webster clarke parson of Whymbrugh xls. ...
Executours John Webster clarke parson of Whymbrugh & William Wannoke "my nevy"
for their labour xxs...
Witness John Thorp prest Stevyn Potter of est Derham & other...
N.C.C. 56 PLATFOOTE
Here is the line, (I think)
Descendants of William Wamuke
1 William Wamuke 1470 -
...2 William Womocke
.....3 William Womocke - 1585 (the "nevy," waiting for his will)
.......+Agnes Scarlett 1516 -
.....3 James Womocke (waiting for his will)
.....3 Margaret Womocke
.....3 Isabel Womocke
...2 James Wamuke (will above)

According to my contact in England this is a Womack, just another spelling....
She is working on James and William, sons of his brother.


Friday, May 20, 2005 at 09:19:52 (PDT)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

The following is the Grantee list of Womacks in Halifax Co VA:
Grantee - Grantor - Kind - Book - Page - Date recorded - Area & Location

Edward Tr-Littlejohn McCargo D of T 49 90 Sep 6 1843 238A Pers Difficult
Elizabeth Heirs-W W Womack Est Part 65 678 Nov 17 1877 401A Sandy Ck
Eliza A-Jos C Terry Sr B&S 66 479 Jan 28 1879
Edgar &c-R E Womack by Comr B&S 80 52 May 28 1889 20A nr Dryburg
E L-Meadville Public School B&S 107 541 Nov 21 1910 5A Mead Dist
Elizabeth-Jennings W Womack B of S 110 491 Oct 22 1912 Pers
E L-J S Jackson &wf B&S 111 169 Dec 23 1912 35A Mead Dist
Emmitt-John Cole &wf B&S 113 158 Nov 24 1913 L22 B3 N Ridge St
Edward-Wm Hobgood B&S 122 176 Nov 29 1918 54A Roa Dist
E L &c-J E Johnson &wf B&S 122 355 Jan 9 1919 209.67A Mead Dist


Friday, May 20, 2005 at 09:50:09 (PDT)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

The following is the Grantee list of Womacks in Halifax Co VA:
Grantee - Grantor - Kind - Book - Page - Date recorded - Area & Location

Ernest L-Meadville Dist School Bd by Comr B&S 127 443 Dec 23 1920 5A Mead Dist
E W-J A & Susan A Mebane B&S 130 24 Mar 16 1922 1/4 Int L3,4,5 B56
E W &c-R H Smith B&S 130 458 Jul 24 1922 1/4 Int Sdy L Logan St S B
E W-W I Jordan Est by Exors B&S 131 509 Mar 17 1923 1/3 Int 132.2ft Wall St So B
E W-Earle T Anderson &wf B&S 138 68 Nov 8 1926 57ft Fenton St So
Elizabeth E-W W Throckmorton Agmt 139 358 Jul 26 1927 200A Roa Dist nr C
Frances W &h &c-Laban Hawkins Est by Tr Rel 40 326 Nov 26 1832 627A Difficult Ck
Florence &c-James W Rodden by Comr B&S 101 268 May 11 1906 30A Birch Ck Dist
Green-J B Nunnally Est by Extrx &c B&S 63 172 Mar 24 1873 108 1/10A
G B-George W Johnston &wf B&S 113 549 Feb 23 1914 100A Roa Dist


Tuesday, May 24, 2005 at 14:08:33 (PDT)
Ruth Hasten Walsh
delins1@earthlink.net

I am seeking information about descendants of Achilles Womack and Myrtle Nichols. Achilles Womack, son of William Melton Womack, M.D. and Lydia Magdalena "Maggie" Blanton, was born 1-1-1878 in Whitewright, Fannin Co., TX. He married Myrtle Nichols in Oklahoma. Census records reveal they had three children, Roy, Flora L., and Geraldine. Achilles and Myrtle were divorced before 1830. In 1830 Achilles was living with his daughter Flora Womack Millett in San Pedro, CA. Achilles died at Los Angeles County Gen'l Hosp on 8-6-1943. Cause of death reported to be carcinoma of face. His daughter Flora L. Bagley was the informant on his death certificate. He is buried in the Inglewood Park Cemetery in Inglewood, Los Angeles Co., CA.

At the of his death Achilles daughter, Flora L. Womack Millett Bagley, was living at 1823 So. Cabrillo, San Pedro. I am investigating possibility that Flora may have died in San Joaquin Co., CA under the surname of Collins. It is not yet known what happened to Achilles other two children.

Achilles Womack's mother, Magdalena "Maggie" Blanton was the daughter of Stephen Fletcher Blanton and granddaughter of Rev. Jeremiah Blanton and Sarah Rebecca "Sallie" Womack. In other words, Maggie's ancestry stems from the illicit affair between Ann aka Nancy Blanton and Abraham Womack b. ca 1708 in Henrico Co., VA.

Any with information about members of this family, please contact me at delins1@earthlink.net or at ruthwalsh@excite.com.

Ruth


Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 11:26:58 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@netzero.com

Arkansas has added the 1942-1950 deaths to their index - I have replaced the three separate indexes with one since this one is alphabetical by first name by last name - not by year then the name...I hav emade some notes to the page - if anyone else can add anything - send and I will add to the page..
Thanks...


Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 16:17:58 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ netzero.com

Looking for whereabouts, 1850, of Abram Wommack, b. abt 1815 VA, wife Sarah, b. abt 1816, Va Son Hiram b abt 1841, Jonathan b. abt 1844, Rebecca b. abt 1851, Edward b. abt 1856. Poss son Isaac b ca 1829, all children shown as b. AR -- altho Isaac could have been son of David and Catherine ? Womack of TN..
Trying to work 1870 images for AR backwards - White and Woodruff counties were not indexed by Ancestry -- maybe others -- Abram was in Marion Co 1860 census.
Isaac, Izard..

There was a Leeanne on the 1870 White Co AR census with a Sarah Womack, b.abt 1815, VA - Isaac, above, had a wife Leanda and children of the same names as those with Sarah -- so would give a good bet that Isaac was a son -- and that poss Isaac was lost in the CW -- Close by is a John Womack, wife Ellen B (maiden name Denton). John was the son of Jacob and Nancy Bates Womack..a somewhat removed great uncle of mine (GGG-GF's brother). Please E mail any info,
post here if you want and if you think it will help someone else..thankee


Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 16:25:08 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ netzero.com

Correction on years of birth of Abram and sarah, 1825 and 1826 respectively - then Isaac b. 1829 woul prob have been a brother... sorry this stuff tets to ya after a few hours!!


Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:09:33 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ netzero.com

Seriously people, I havent been imbibing much of anything but water and tea..
Disregard that change of dates to the 1820's - on Abram and Sarah..


Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 00:13:36 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

1850 Census Marion Co. AR

Catharine Womack Not Stated, Marion, AR abt 1794 Tennessee
David Womack Not Stated, Marion, AR abt 1793 Tennessee
David L Womack Not Stated, Marion, AR abt 1849 Arkansas
Isaac Womack Not Stated, Marion, AR abt 1829 Arkansas
Jacob Womack Not Stated, Marion, AR abt 1830 Arkansas
Maryann Womack Not Stated, Marion, AR abt 1831 Arkansas


Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 00:34:50 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ netzero.com
www.samsawadee.net

I just finished coping, pasting and uploading a listing of CW Womacks, both Union and CSA - be aware that on the CSA side it appears TN and VA are missing.
Will check into that later and if can find will correct pages.. just go to my
webber, above, scroll down and click on the appropriate flag.


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Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 23:27:57 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

William is my 3rd great grandfather and Thomas is my 3rd great uncle. Just posted these because I didn't see them on your list Sam no biggy figured I'd give ya the info. incase

Womack, William J.
Confederate
Cavalry
19th Regiment, Texas Cavalry (Burford's)

William J. Womack (First_Last)
Regiment Name 19 Texas Cavalry
Side Confederate
Company F
Soldier's Rank_In Private
Soldier's Rank_Out Corporal

Thomas J. Womack (First_Last)
Regiment Name Madison's Reg't Texas Cavalry
Side Confederate
Company F
Soldier's Rank_In Private
Soldier's Rank_Out Private

Womack, Thomas J.
Confederate
Cavalry
Madison's Regiment, Texas Cavalry (Phillips') (3rd Regiment, Arizona Brigade)


Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 23:32:14 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

I thought I'd post the site I got that from http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/

This site give u an idea where and what battles they faught in some may not have ny history but some do just if yall see names u recognize at Sam's site this site address I posted is just if you want to read about the battles they faught and is for every name like kin married into the family or something if you know they faught in the CW


Friday, May 27, 2005 at 07:07:26 (PDT)
Sandi Phillips
sphillips@tucsonairport.org

Hello All

Found this while looking in Colonial Ancestors - don't know if anyone might be interested but here it is:

Oaths of Allegian, Valley Forge, 1778: Source: "The Army and Navy of United States 1776-1891", George Barrie Publisher, Philadelphia, 1890, at http://colonialancestors.com/revolutionary/oath6.htm:

W. Womack, quartermaster 1st N.C. regt.

Sandi


Friday, May 27, 2005 at 08:19:49 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Sam,

I know you trying to establish a relationship to the "other" Womacks, i.e. Sarah, wife of Abram, in White Co. to your family, but I don't believe there is any in this era.

Abram WOMMACK b. ca. 1815 TENNESSEE on the 1860 Marion Co., AR census was probably a son of David Womack and Catherine Wood, dau. of Abraham Wood. I suspect that David Womack is part of my group who came into Arkansas ca. 1815.

1816 Tax List of Lawrence Co., AR, Territory of Missouri (Excerpt)
WOMACK, David (m. Catherine Wood)
WOMACK, Jesse (son of Maj. Jake)
WOMACK, John
WOMACK, John (a second listing of the same name)
WOMACK, Johnson (son of Maj. Jake)
WOOD, William


1850 Marion Co., AR Census
HH 52 Jacob Womack - in the HH of William Wood and Margaret Rhea, who is Catherine Wood Womack's nephew.

HH 56 David Womack, wife Catherine Wood, daughter Catherine Womack

HH 58 Isaac Womack, age 21, wife Maryann, son David

HH 59 James Cochran, wife Mary. James is probably the son of Betsy Womack Cochran, daughter of Jesse Womack, (son of Maj. Jake) per probate of Jesse Womack's will 26 Feb 1827 Lawrence Co., AR Territory of Missouri

1860 Izard Co., AR
Isaac Womack, age 31 - probably David and Catherine Wood Womack's son

On the 1860 Marion Co., AR census James Cochran was next door to Abram Wommack. On the 1870 White Co., AR census James Cochran (a younger one) was next door to Sarah Womack.

I know that Abraham Wood was in KY and then Bedford Co., TN before migrating into AR. "Abraham Wood sold to Thomas Dean 10 ac. Abraham Wood of Independence Co, AR conveyed to Thomas Dean land in Bedford Co., TN, on waters of Big Flat Creek, borders cabin of Abraham Wood. The land is that on which Davis (David) formerly lived." (Sorry, I didn't note the source) 1822 Bedford Co., TN Land Sale Record: p. 110, Land Deed Genealogy of Bedford Co., TN 1807-1852
Davis (David) Womack

Also, here are some 1860 AR Womack census records for your web page:

I didn't add their families - only heads of household

1860 Crockett Twp., Arkansas Co., AR
Abram WORMACK, b. ca, 1787 SC (w/wife) - one page and one household from James WAMACK

1860 Brown Twp., Columbia Co., AR
A. M. WORMACK

1860 Magazine Twp., Yell Co., AR
Burrell WORMACK Robert Burke's family

1860 Clark Twp., Johnson Co., AR
Josiah WORMACK - Josiah C. C. b. Jackson Co., AL d. Logan Co., AR


Friday, May 27, 2005 at 09:36:12 (PDT)
Sam
samsawade @ netzero.com

Just another lil tidbit from the peanut gallery:

National Gravesite Locator

http://gravelocator.cem.va.gov/j2ee/servlet/NGL_v1


Friday, May 27, 2005 at 09:40:55 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ netzero.com

Beth
Thanks - unfortunately that Sarah was in the same area as John was - and John was the son of Jacob Jr - my GGG-GF bro -- that is one interest - and I am naturally curious about all dem Whoa-macks or wom-ucks.


Friday, May 27, 2005 at 09:42:58 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ netzero.com

Derrell
Thanks - as I think I mentioned - I do not believe they are complete - I know for sure TN and VA ar emissing from the CSA side of it -- will post those you sent shortly---


Friday, May 27, 2005 at 15:45:48 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

I found this at ancestry.com thought yall might want it for help looking at censuses it does make since

Transcription Problems
In addition to phonetic various, it's important to keep in mind that some letters are easily misread, which can cause indexing problems. The following letters are among those easily misread, but also remember that individual handwriting can significantly influence the way a name is interpreted by an indexer.
- Upper case letters
F and H
J and I
J, G, and Y
K and R
S and L
O and Q
P and R
T and F
U and V
W and M, UU

- Lower case letters
a and ee
a, o, and u
b and f
d and el
j and i
k and t
s and l
t and c
ss, fs, ps
w and vv
y and g


Friday, May 27, 2005 at 16:11:01 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Womack : English Place name that designated a 'hollow or crooked oak' tree. The person who wound up with the surname was the one who lived nearby. Requested by Mark Womack

The Surname Thesaurus

NameX matched
58 Surnames
Search took: 0.046875 Seconds

Surname Match Score C1881 NBI EO SO

Womac 99 x
Womacke 99 x
Wommack 99 x x
Womacks 98
Wommacke 97 x
Womake 96 x
Womeck 96 x
Wommac 96
Womacko 96
Womacku 96
Womackg 96
Womacki 96
Womacc 96
Womak 95 x x
Wommak 94
Wommake 93 x
Womaks 93 x
Womacky 93
Womackii 92
Woomock 92 x
Womek 91 x
Womakc 91 x
Womackiii 90
Womalk 90
Womax 88 x
Womackm 87
Womackd 87
Womackv 87
Womackr 87
Womackt 87
Womacque 85
Womwack 84 x
Womck 83 x
Woamck 83 x
Womacp 82
Womakd 82 x
Woemack 81 x
Woma 80 x
Womackiv 80
Womackmy 80
Womackof 80
Womach 79 x x
Womas 79
Womask 79 x
Woomack 79 x x x
Womback 78 x
Womcack 78
Woommack 77 x
Womackson 77
Wamack 76 x
Wimack 76 x
Womock 76 x
Womuck 76 x
Womick 76 x x
Wommach 76
Womcak 75 x
Womackouns 75
Womacot 75


Saturday, May 28, 2005 at 09:33:54 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ netzero.com

Let me run a couple of name findings by you:

Womack
English: unexplained. The surname is well established in England (Yorkshire and Norfolk) as well as North America, and there is a Womack Water in Norfolk, but the name remains unexplained. It may possibly be connected with Dutch Walmack, from Middle Dutch walmac(k)e ‘twig’, ‘faggot’, applied as a nickname for a thin person. [remember a faggot used to be a stick of wood as I recall.]

warmack
altered form of English Womack (itself unexplained).
Americanized form of Polish Warmiak, a habitational name or regional name from any of various places in Poland, in particular Warmia, a region of northeastern Poland.

waymack
Of uncertain origin. Possibly a variant of English Waymark, which is probably a
derivative of the Old Breton personal name Wiumarch, composed of the elements
uuiu ‘worthy’ + march ‘horse’. See also Wymer. [Interesting as this was brought
up in the old Womack Genealogy publications, but with a slightly different definition of Wiumarch.]
Dictionary of American Family Names, Oxford University Press,
ISBN 0-19-508137-4

Willwe ever really know???


Saturday, May 28, 2005 at 10:52:47 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

I Understand that there is a book written by Captain John M. Womack in the Tennessee State Library of Archives called "The Diaries of Captain John Womack" of which only a few copies remain. John is in my family line and if anyone has copied or transcribed it I would forever be indebted to them for a copy. John was the son of William "Big Billy" Womack my GG grandfather and the brother of Solomon Womack my G grandfather. I'm sure I will never be able to make the trip to see the book myself but would like to add it to my Ged files. This should be of intrest of all the Thomas and Louvisa descendants. Perhaps someone will make this a WGN project.
I have a number of treasures I prize highly amoung them are dozens of typed Geds from some no longer living. Tons of stuff from Ray Bryan and even a copy of the manuscript of Carlos U Womacks book sent to me by his niece Janet.

BTW Janet wrote me and said Carlos is not expected to live. He has been in an alzheimers home for some time. Carlos 75 is of the old school and his books are no longer in print. He did research the hard way with letter writing and digging in all the county archives and librarys in person.
A signed book written by a Pecos Pate Boone telling about the early days in OK, TX, and NM and of my Mother who was a Cowgirl and Bronc rider in her youth, She performed in Pate Boone's Wild West Shows in 1918. For you who are into South Louisiana early history there is a book written by my Nephew, Gene Thibodeaux titled Rice, Railroads and Bullfrogs, A history of Rayne , Louisaina. Library of Congress # 2001130759. Has litterly hundred of names dating back to 1833. He also wrote and published a book about his home town Church Point LA and the surrounding praries of LA. in 1999.
Jack


Sunday, May 29, 2005 at 04:55:10 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/index.php This web site has news paper articles in the early 1800's to the mid 1900's

I found articles on Womack/Wamack/Wammack

Just firgured if anyone wants to possibly get articles on their ancestors and it work My 2nd Great grandpa Isom Conrad Womack got a divorce from his first wife I didn't know they had and now I have the date and place of divorce so good luck on your article searches


Sunday, May 29, 2005 at 09:20:40 (PDT)
Nelson Womack
nwomack@neb.rr.com

Jack,

Check out the following website it's about the 16th Tennessee Infantry Regiment.
http://www.tngenweb.org/records/military/civilwar/16regtnvol.html


Sunday, May 29, 2005 at 10:22:29 (PDT)
elizabeth
southernfamilytree@yahoo.com

Looking for living Womack's in Carter County Ky to contact for information on that line of the family. thanks


Monday, May 30, 2005 at 13:29:32 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ netzero.com

I will be uploading, sometime this PM, a listing of Womacks in US Vets cemeteries. Many on the lst have middle names, there are dates of birth and death for many of them, some of them are children and wives of veterans. Also
the cemeteries, by state, where interred.

Also, believe it or not, I found an AR divorce index for the years 1923-27; and 1934-39. Putting that out there on me AR page. Also one for TX.

A little trivia on the TX divorce index - 1968-2002 - there were 1642
Womacks, 92 Wommack, 24 Wammack, 2 Wamack, 2 Womock...the listing apparently
lists each twice; so these figures have to be halved to get a true count of couples it seems..but then, what the heck may go back and get them for TX while I can still get into the place -- other states you have to ask for a look-up and may have to pay - these two were freebies--anyway keep eyes peeled for postings.


Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 12:44:08 (PDT)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

The following is the Grantee list of Womacks in Halifax Co VA:
Grantee - Grantor - Kind - Book - Page - Date recorded - Area & Location

Henry by Tr-Miles Womack Est Part 60 485 May 28 1866 20 1/2A
Harriett A E-M D F Womack D in T 66 91 Feb 19 1878 126A Polecat Ck
H W-W T Rickman &wf B&S 107 139 Apr 29 1910 91A Roanoke Dist
Herbert-P W Farmer B&S 122 94 Nov 6 1918 29.95A Ban Dist
Herbert-Wilson Boxley &wf B&S 122 169 Nov 26 1918 17.79A Ban Dist
H M-H H Edmunds &wf B&S 122 240 Dec 20 1918 143A Mead Dist
H L &c-J E Johnson &wf B&S 122 355 Jan 9 1919 209.67A Mead Dist
H C[hand written in, middle initial "W"] &wf-H C Lacy &wf B&S 128 515 Jun 20 1921 91A Roa Dist
Isham-John Watkins &c B&S 2 224 Sep 18 1760 200A Polecat Ck
Idella-George W Johnson &wf B&S 11[9] 38 Jun 9 1917 61A Roa Dist


Friday, June 03, 2005 at 05:56:33 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ netzero,com

Previously, we were perplexed about Henry Womack in Accomac(k) Co VA - I went thru the US Gen Web county page for Accomac(k). I was advised by one of the people there that many of the so called Accomac(k) records were actually filed in a couple of counties over the border in another state[MD or MA??]. I queried those counties and nil came up on Henry Womack of any spelling -- Not that most of us havent already; but I think I can finally lay to rest mine and David Dunn's conclusion the "perfect" genealogy of Henry is nothing but a FAKE! And, that anyone claiming descent from that one really doesnt exist!!!


Sunday, June 05, 2005 at 00:21:08 (PDT)
syed noor hussain
canada_ali_pak@yahoo.com

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Monday, June 06, 2005 at 07:02:13 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ netzero,com

Y'all all know we still have the name suspect in the Immygrant and his spouse.

One enigma is the naming process they had back then - John, Thomas and William
defintely are names from mainly the Yorkshire branch of Womacks. Altho, they
do show up in the E Dereham/Lopham Womacks..

If our branch had came from the E Dereham/Lopham's - there would have been
more Lawrences, Arthurs, Henrys, Hughs, James; and yes, even Samuels in the earlier bunch. I may be proven wrong, but you know naming patterns.

Abraham?? Someone had a deep religious conviction; or his name came from
a wife's side of the hill..In the LDS Ancestral file, which we know is loaded with errors because of what people put out there, the earliest one of any substance is the Abe of 1644 in VA..

The British IGI shows, with duplication, Abe and Abe Jr of VA being born
in England or Wales....The US IGI and Pedigree files show the VA Abe begining with about 1644 as we know it..so I do want to throw this out there:

ABRAHAM JUDD
Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 01 MAY 1602 Cranbrook, Kent, England (notice the county)
Death:
Burial:

Wife MARY SLOMAN
Birth:
Death:
Burial:

---------------------------------------------------------
Timothy Allen (I believe this is the one who took care of the Orphans?)
Birth: 1594 , , England
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
Burial:

Wife ? Worsham (now where have we seen that name before??)
Birth:
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
Burial:

Children

1. Mary Jane Allen
Birth: About 1615 , Henrico, Virginia (dont really buy this)
Christening:
Death: 1677
Burial:
Or:
Mary Jane ALLEN
Birth: 1620 , , England (makes more sense than above)
Christening:
Death: 1685
Burial:
Dates of death, close? No Kewpie??


Monday, June 06, 2005 at 19:37:58 (PDT)
Jamie
birls@boone.net

Does anyone have any info on these Womacks? This was in Johnston Co NC in the area that later became Wake County.
Johnston Co Deed Book E-1:214 28 Oct 1765
Sarah Womack to Benjamin Womick "My whole Rite and Title of my thirds of a tract of land belonging to John Womick deceased containing 160 a cors..."..."the said part of land containing 53 acors." Wit: Charles Jones & Hardy Sanders Note: at this time in NC the widow was entitled to 1/3 of her husband's land

Then: 17 Nov 1769 Benjamin Womack Jo. Co. to John Bradford, Junr, Hallifax Co...160 A in Jo Co...."by virtue of his birthright as Son and Heir to John Womack deceast. Who purchased the same of Dunkin Lemons for whome the land was survey'd and granted by Original deed from the Proprietors." Wit: William Moore, G.S. Turner, Chrsito. Woodward, Benjamin (B)his mark Womack

Note: NC State Archives: Duncan Lemmon granted 160 acres in Johnston Co 1 July 1760.

I'm esp. interested in info on Benjamin and any other children of John & Sarah, as well as Womack's of Johnston, Wake & Cumberland Co NC. Thanks!


Tuesday, June 07, 2005 at 11:45:40 (PDT)
andrea phillips
andrea_womack@hotmail.com

Has anyone been able to find information on Freelove Thompson or her family. She was the Wife of Alexander WOMACk. In the late 1830's, they moved to Polk Co., Tn., where they remained until the 1860's. About the time of the Civil War, they settled in McMinn Co.,where they stayed until their deaths.


Tuesday, June 07, 2005 at 18:50:32 (PDT)
roy
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

Sam - on your Accomack County inquiry.
Accomack was formed around 1660 from Northampton County, however it was actually a county before that called (Accawmack) around 1630. So a good 20 years of history is likely in the Northampton archives, if at all.

It is and was a part of the "outer" banks of Virginia and borders the state of Maryland on the North. Seems to have quite an history and you may end up with records in Maryland since that state is contiguous with the county and the rest of Virginia is across the Chesapeake Bay.


Tuesday, June 07, 2005 at 23:40:58 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ATTN: Andrea Womack http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmcminn/#LAND

LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT OF ALEXANDER WOMAC
State of Tenn.
McMinn Co.
Know all men by these presence that I Alexander Womac in the
presents of mind do make this day my Will. I give to my wife Freelove, my land
& stock, household & kitchen furniture, after the funeral expenses is paid
and for Free Paris still to work the farm and keep up the repairs & pay the
taxes and take care of my wife so long as she lives and at her death I want
all sold and equal divide made with all the children alike and Elizabeth to
have to make her equal. I wish this to be faithfully executed and in order
that it be done I appoint James A. Womac to tend mu bus??? and to attend at
the death of the old woman to wind up this my will. Signed, Sealed, and
delivered the presents of us this 11th day of May 1874. I also give my mare
colt to Green Paris & his wife Lucinda the loving day and date above for the
services in waiting on me.

Alexander X Womac (Seal)
His Mark

Thomas Prince
illegible

Contributed By: Connie Baumann
Return To: McMinn Co. Web Genealogy Project

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/a/u/Connie-J-Baumann/ <---- This sight is Connie Baumann's she has pictures of some of the Womac/Womacks in your line Andrea

This is the start of here Decendent Chart
Descendants of James Alexander Womack III
Page 1 of 8


[ Home Page | First Page | Previous Page | Next Page | Last Page | Index of Pages ]
1 [9] James Alexander Womack III b: Abt. 1797 in Lunenburg Co. VA d: Aft. 11 May 1874 in Shoal Creek, McMinn Co., TN Burial: 1874 Homeplace, McMinn Co., TN
.... +Mary Neal b: Abt. 1802 in North Carolina d: 1832 in North Carolina Burial: 1832 Unknown m: Bef. 1821 in Prob Rutherford Co., NC


Wednesday, June 08, 2005 at 06:40:52 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ netzero.com

Actuallly the Free Paris mentioned, in the will Derrell posted below, was known as Free Farris; but real name was Frances Meredith Farris, b. TN Mar 15, 1846; d. McMin Co TN Dec 20, 1906. Married Linda R Womack, b. Polk Co TN Aug 11, 1848, d. Mcminn Co TN Oct 5 1908. They married Jul 23, 1868. Linda was the daughter of James Alexander III and Freelove Thompson - they may have had more children but I only have name of one Chatt Farris (female) Born Aug 7, 1875 in McMinm Co TN, d. Meigs Co Oct 3, 1936. She married a cousin James Samuel Womack,
b. McMinn CO Jan 9, 1876, d. Dec 28, 1943, Meigs Co..James was son of Ransom Andrew, a son of Alex III and Freelove; and brother to Linda R. Bit confoosin, but guess cuz marryin' was the norm back then..


Wednesday, June 08, 2005 at 06:57:09 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ netzero.com

Yesterday was browsing around with teh various DNA things - same across on McCown that apparently had a Womack way back - checked the Pedigree and it appears this person connected to the Thomas Womack, who had the daughter named Elizabeth, who hit Jamestown in about 1620. Altho the person did not have the name of the female -- Unfortunately he had her born in 1630, the Jamestown muster, or census in 1623/24 indicated she was 25 when she arrived in 1620.
This is the one Elizabeth Womack/Sharp/Packer/Baugh that had headrights, unnamed, in the mid 1630's..this pedigree I saw had her bearing children to Baugh from 1639 to 1660 something. Couldnt have done that because she died in 1650 and would have been over 50 years old at the time of some of the birthings -- My info was thru the Sharp(e) researchers -

I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the Thomas - Elizabeth Womack connection; nor anything other than a William Sharp hit Jamestown well before 1620; and an Elizabeth came over in 1620(no last name given nor ships list), probably as a load of women to be brides for single men in the colony--they had two sons who were age 2 and 2 mons old, respectively, on the 1623/24 muster. Isaac and Samuel. William apparently died ca. 1635 or 36, she married a Packer, he died within about 2 years, and then she married in about 1638--William Baugh..about 10-15 years younger than she..

As I think I have mentioned before, this may be our Womack connection to the immigrant - a headright of a relative??? This needs more research to be sure..


Wednesday, June 08, 2005 at 07:23:20 (PDT)
Sam
samsawade @ netzero.com

OK OK I know a lotta posting - but I went back and checked the LDS records and came up with these for children of Free and Linda Womack Farris - The Chatt I mentioned below, I found not on this list but with James as Charity..

1. Alexander Farris
Birth: JUL 1870 Tennessee Death: After 1920

2. John Will Farris
Birth: 11 MAY 1871 Mcminn, Tennessee
Death: 19 MAY 1912 Mcminn, Tennessee
Burial: 22 MAY 1912 Mcminn, Tennessee

3. Mary Freelove Farris
Birth: 1873 Mcminn, Tennessee

4. Diana Farris
Birth: 1874 Mcminn, Tennessee

5. Nannie Bell Farris
Birth: 1876 Tennesse Death: 1941

6. Matilda Farris (twin)
Birth: 11 AUG 1877 Mcminn, Tennessee
Death: 09 JUN 1913 Mcminn, Tennessee
Burial: 12 JUN 1913 Mcminn, Tennessee

7. William Farris (twin)
Birth: 11 AUG 1877 Mcminn, Tennessee
Death: 19 JUN 1913

8. Jane Farris
Birth: 1879 Mcminn, Tennessee

Odd that twins born same day, died within days of each other..


Sunday, June 12, 2005 at 12:02:15 (PDT)
Jeff Fisher
JFisher777@aol.com

Wow, what a site on the Womack's! Quite overwhelming.

I have a question for you...below is an entry from you....I have seen the census...and am suspecting that Hety Womack is my great great grandmother, Hester Womack....but anyway, I was supprised to see the not you had below expanding on the names of her parents...where is that information from and do you have any other information on this line of the family?
_______________________________

* Census Place: E.D. 94, Lee, Texas
Source: FHL Film 1255316 National Archives Film T9-1316 Page 80C
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
Julius WOMACK Self M M W 25 AL
Occ: Farmer Fa: AL Mo: AL
Nancy A. WOMACK Wife F M W 26 GA
Occ: Keeping House Fa: GA Mo: GA
Hety WOMACK Dau F S W 4 TX
Fa: --- Mo: ---
Henry F. WOMACK Son M S W 1 TX
Fa: --- Mo: ---
Note: Julius J. Womack, sp. Nancy Irene Sapp. from Roger Womack www.womacknet.net
_____________________________

Thanks for your help
Jeff Fisher


Monday, June 13, 2005 at 23:17:44 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ netzeero.com

Anyone have any idea of the parents of Benjamin Womack, b. abt 1755 NC or GA;
he married a Mary Lanier, b. 1759 in GA - I can trace Mary back to her 2nd greats and beyond - In fact her 2nd greats and my 9th greats are the same (Lanier). But I cant place ole Cuz Ben no where..


Friday, June 17, 2005 at 17:21:04 (PDT)
Edward Bowen
ebowensr@yahoo.com

I am looking for any information on a Thurman Womack born in Mich. around 1892. From an old birth certificate it appears his middle inital is H. but am not sure since what I have is a copy of a copy and is not clear. He married Pernia Conditt August 3, 1914 and they had a daughter Dorothy O. Womack born January 16, 1919. Thurman died before the 1920 census. They were living in Durant, Ok. at this time. It turns out that Thurman is my actual grandfather but I did not find this out untill after my mother and grandmothers death. I am in hopes that someone will be able to help me. Thank you. E. Bowen


Friday, June 17, 2005 at 19:37:58 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Ed I will try and help these r from 2002 archives

Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 18:21:00 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
Ed, I think your guy probably died between 1919 and 1920 - I am guessing your grandmother is the Perney Womack listed with the Conditt family - she is listed as age 21, widowed, with a girl Dorthea (?) - that's Bryan Co., OK 1920, Albany township, page 1b




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Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 18:36:23 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
Ed, sorry to do this in two postings, but my knowledge of OK records is limited, so I had to look it up. You should be able to get the death certificate from the state vital records office. This is in theory - apparently the state started in 1916, but if Arkansas is any model, 1919 -1920 they may or may not have it on file. http://www.health.state.ok.us/program/vital/brec.html has the details. Or there may be an obituary or funeral home notice.




Friday, June 17, 2005 at 20:08:17 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Attn: ED
Go to this site has lots of William Conditt's Info.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ok/bryan/bryan.htm

1920 Census OK-Bryan Co.-Albany Twp

Head of house hold will be Pernia's dad John H Conditt

Womack Perney 21Yrs Wd AR-AR-AR
Dortha 11M OK-USA-AR


Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 10:01:50 (PDT)
Carlene Peacock Brown
Tyra302@aol.com

I need the parents of Mary Jane Womack, born ca 1814, KY and married James Holmsley, born ca 1810 KY. They had a daughter, Nancy, born 1834 Ark and died 1859 Madison Co., Ark. Nancy was married to Bayless Shumate, born 2-17-1833, Harlan Co., KY and died 12-18-1927 Washington Co., Ark. Nancy Holmsley was 1/2
Cherokee, but I don't know which of her parents was Cherokee. I suspect it was James Holmsley. I am researching this Womack family for Sally Lyons Kindle, who is in bad health and unable to do it herself. Most of her family is Cherokee. Any help on the Womack family would certainly be appreciated. Contact me at Tyra302@aol.com


Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 13:18:07 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Ann
Beg yer pardon - AR has death records from 1914 to 1950 on line -- I am not saying they are complete; but the Womacks are at:

http://dubbie.tripod.com/samsville/ar-dth-index.html

And yes, still with MSN - DSL now and its great!!


Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 13:21:26 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Sorry forgot to mention - the link to OK Death records is here:

http://www.deathindexes.com/oklahoma/ it is skimpy but does have infor on how to obtain a a record - at the bottom are links for all states. Click and go!


Sunday, June 19, 2005 at 07:58:06 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

From LDS - cannot attest to validity of this but:

James HOLMESLEY
Birth: 1810 Ky
Death: Sep 15, 1881
Father: John R. HOLMESLEY
Mother: Mary JAMES
Spouse: Jane Or Jennie WOMACK
Birth: abt 1810. poss Elkins, Washington CO AR
Death: abt 1899
Marriage: ABT 1833


Not so sure this is the same one, but if it is and Jane or Jennie died in 1899
they must have been divorced?
1880 Census Comanche Co TX
James HOLMESLEY Self M Male W 73 KY Farmer VA VA
Eliza HOLMESLEY Other M Female W 65 TN Keeping House SC SC
Ira TUNNELL GSon S Male W 07 TX AL AL
Ada TUNNELL GDau S Female W 05 TX AL AL


Monday, June 20, 2005 at 08:52:43 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Add this to the post below:
Children:
Nancy Holmesley b: 1834 in Madison Co.,Richland,AR
William Holmesley b: 1836 in Madison Co.,Richland,AR
Sarah Holmesley b: 1837 in TX
Jane Holmesley b: 1841 in Madison Co.,Richland,AR
Holford Holmesley b: 1843 in Madison Co.,Richland,AR
Lucinda Holmesley b: 1844 in Madison Co.,Richland,AR
Louiza Holmesley b: 1847 in Madison Co.,Richland,AR
Vancusy Holmesley b: 1848 in Madison Co.,Richland,AR

From Ancestry.com - again check for validity.


Monday, June 20, 2005 at 09:46:38 (PDT)
Jean Reed Herbelin
jrhgwh@aol.com

I was in Van Buren County, AR at the Plant Cemetery there and found the gravestones of the following :
Jacob L. Wammack b. Nov 184? d. 1903?
Milum J. Wammack b. ? 4, 1850 d. May 15, 1909
Delilah Cathrine Wammack 1842- 1911 Wife of Jacob L Wammack
Spensor W. Wammack b. Nov. 3,1878 d. Nov. 11, 1896

I have pictures of the above, if there are any relatives who would like them just e-mail me.


Tuesday, June 21, 2005 at 14:09:32 (PDT)
Joann Horton
mikeandjoann@yahoo.com

I have visited this wonderful web-site many times in the past. I am the granddaughter of John William Womack and Ollie McFarland Womack of Corpus Christi, Texas. My mother was Jean Womack Beard who passed away May 2, 2002. I would like to hear from anyone who knew my mother and her sisters, Madelyn Womack, Helen Womack Segrest, Bobby Womack Reagan and Frances Womack Gorham. Madelyn, Helen, and Bobby are all deceased and Aunt Frances is not doing well. My cousin, Sandra Gorham Stever, is putting together a book of tales of our aunts and mothers and would love to hear any stories anyone might have about them. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Joann Horton.


Wednesday, June 22, 2005 at 12:46:52 (PDT)
Chris King
george_king_2000us@yahoo.com

My great Grandfather is Harvey C Womack of Womack, Louisianna. He was born 21 June 1908 in Womack, La and died 7 Nov 1990. I am stuck on him and cannot find his parents. Can anyone help????


Thursday, June 23, 2005 at 09:42:39 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Chris
Methinks this be he:

1920 Census Jackson Parish, Police Ward 5, LA taken Apr 2, 1920
Womack, G B, age 35 born LA his parents born LA
Ollie age 31 born Ar father born AL mother born LA
Harvey age 11 born LA
Jack age 10 born LA

This may be a bit far fetched but

1900 Census, Same Place as 1920, Census done Jun 23 1900
Dwelling/Family 211/213
Womack, Howard age 36, May 1864, he and parents born LA
Lolitha C wife age 37, Oct 1862, born LA parents born MS
Guey B son age 14, Oct 1885, all children born LA
Labella dau age 12, Dec 1887
Maggie M dau age 8, Sep 1891
John W son age 6, Jun 1893
William R son age 5, Feb 1895
Petrolia P dau age 6/12, Nov 1899

I have sent other data to you via e-mail, a bit to long to post more than this here. I included this also - posted here so you know something when you sign in here.
Sam


Friday, June 24, 2005 at 12:43:42 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Not sure if you are aware of it but a number of states have their death indexes
on line - so far I have compiled the following and will be posting to one of my sites soon, accessible thru my main web page:

AL-1908-1959
AR-1914-1950
GA-1919-1998
LA-1900-1949


Friday, June 24, 2005 at 22:22:27 (PDT)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

In today's Obit. in the Alamogordo Daily News, Tommy Lee Womack died June 21, 2005.Was born September 19, 1940 in Konawa, Oklahoma. His father was T. L. Womack, who also past away in Alamogordo some time back. It states that he will be buried in Colbert, Oklahoma where his sister, Thelma Irene Womack-Gibbs resides.
It lists neices and nephews also. Last names include Gibbs, Turpen and Fifer.
It also states that Tommie Lee Womack graduated highschool in Gallup, New Mexico and lived here in Alamogordo, NM from 1963 to 2004.


Friday, June 24, 2005 at 22:38:23 (PDT)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

Sorry, I think that should be Colvert, Oklahoma instead of Colbert.


Friday, June 24, 2005 at 22:47:51 (PDT)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

Here we go. I finally found the actual obit. I spoke of.

From Alamogordo News

Obituaries
Tommy Lee Womack, 64

Jun 24, 2005, 08:29 am

Tommy Lee Womack, born Sept. 19, 1940, went to live with the Lord on June 21, 2005.

He was preceded in death by his father, T.L. Womack and his mother, Thelma Irene Gibbs Womack. He is survived by a sister, Marsha Turpen of Bloomfield, N.M.; nephews, Robert Lee Fifer of Alamogordo, N.M., Richard Glen Fifer of Thoreau, N.M.; a niece, Kelly Turpen of Bloomfield, New Mexico; uncles, Jerry Gibbs of Robert Lee, Texas, and Bud Gibbs of Tyler, Texas; an aunt, Judy Chandler of Colbert, Oklahoma; a great nephew, Danny Fifer, and nieces Kylee Fifer and Starlyn Fifer.

Tommy was born in Konawa, Oklahoma. He graduated from high school in Gallup, N.M. and lived in Alamogordo, N.M. from 1963 to 2004. He was a member of Grace Methodist Church, Woodmen of the World, and Alamogordo Evening Lions Club. He served as Assistant Manager at White Sands National Monument Gift Shop. Tommy was an avid fisherman and loved the outdoors.

Services will be held at the United Methodist Church in Colbert, Oklahoma followed by graveside services at the Colbert Cemetery.

Sorry about the previous errors.
Erin


Saturday, June 25, 2005 at 13:30:37 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Jeff Fisher and Ann McDonald:

I'm flying by the seat of my pants again, so I'll have to get Ann to please look at this regarding Kinchen. Jeff inquired June 12 about Julius Womack, b. ca. 1855 AL, m. Nancy Sapp.

1850 Lowndes Dist., Lowndes Co.,AL
William Womack, age 24 b. AL
Elizabeth Womack, age 21 b. AL
Lewis Womack, age 1 b. AL

Next County South of Lowndes
1850 No Township Listed, Monroe Co., AL
Kinchen R. Wormac, age 50 b. GA
Mary, age 48, b. SC
Sherod age 20, b. AL
Louisa, age 18 b. AL
Pantheon, age 15 b. AL
Henryetta, age 13 b. AL
Wiley, age 10 b. AL
Mary, age 8 b. AL
Kinchen, age 6 b. AL
Nancy, age 6 b. AL
John, age 3 b. AL

1860 Burnt Corn P O, Monroe Co., AL
HH 664/608
(Mary Agnes E. Jones Womack, widow of Kinchen R. Womack)
Mary Wamac, age 55, b. SC
Henrietta, age 21, b. AL
Mary, age 18 AL
Nancy, age 14 AL

HH 665/609 (Next HH)
(Possibly another son of Kinchen R. Womack?)
William Womack, age 33 b. AL
Elizabeth, age 30, b. AL
Lewis, age 12 b. AL
Mary, age 10 b. AL
Julius, age 7 b. AL
William, age 3 b. AL
Zela, age 1 b. AL

Ann, I believe this is going to be the Eliza Womack to whom Mary Agnes E. Jones Womack sold land in 1870. Sallie and John Watts are next door to Eliza Womack on the 1880 census.

1870 Dennards Bluff P O, Monroe Co., AL
Elizabeth Warnoc, age 42, b. AL
Lewis, age 21 b. AL
Mary, age 17, b. AL married John Watson
Julius, 16, b. AL
William, age 13, b. AL
Zela, age 10, b. AL
Thomas, age 8, b. AL
Silvie Warnoc, age 88 (Race B.) Laborer

1880 Old Texas Twp., Monroe Co., AL Page 427A
Eliza WORRACK, age 57 AL SC AL
William WORRACK, age 23 Son AL AL AL
Zellah WORRACK, age 20 Dau AL AL AL
Thomas WORRACK, age 18 Son AL AL AL

1880 E. D. 94, Lee Co., TX Page 80C
L. A. WOMACK, age 31 b. AL (Lewis Womack, brother of Julius)
Martha M. WOMACK, age 28 b. GA
Elizabeth WOMACK, age 5 b. AL
William WOMACK, age 3 b. TX

1880 E. D. 98, Lee Co., TX Page 80C
John SAPP, age 31, b. GA
James E. SAPP, age 6, b. TX Son mother b. AL
Henrietta SAPP, age 2, b. TX Dau.

1880 E. D. 98, Lee Co., TX Page 80C
A. H. SAPP, age 71 b. GA Ireland Ireland
Sarah SAPP, age 50 b. GA SC SC
M. Q. SAPP, age 22 b. AL GA GA
Sarah A. SAPP, age 19 b. GA GA GA

1880 E.D. 94., Lee Co., TX Page 80C
Julius WOMACK, age 25 b. AL
Nancy A. WOMACK, age 26, b. GA (Nancy Sapp)
Hety WOMACK, age 4 b. TX
Henry F. WOMACK, age 1 b. TX


Monday, June 27, 2005 at 11:49:20 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com
www.samsawadee.net

I have death records for 17 states compiled - like about 550 names for CA - would be done but my DSL went out for about 24 hours - should finish that today.
When I get them ALL finished will upload to one of my sites -- Keep an eye on my main page, above, for link...if there is no link to a particular state you may have interest in - there were no records on line for that state --

But now I have a question - I am searching for the parents, birth and death location of one Elma Womack, born Feb 1905, died Oct 12, 1936 - she is buried in the cemetery where my greats on down to my dad are buried - - I have checked AR death index and also have written for a copy of a death certificate. Arkansas has no record of her death. I have been unable to locate her on a census as of yet - Womack may have been a married name rather than maiden.

The only thing I can figure is that she died out of state, but was brought to AR and buried. Why, I have no idea; but she must be a relative of some sort..
I have written the person who keeps the cemetery records - hopefully they kept good enough records to know where she is in the cemetery and any other info - I would like to buy her a marker, regardless, a relative or not..


Tuesday, June 28, 2005 at 04:39:42 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

It is now 4:38 AM Jun 28 - I have finished uploading all the deat records I have except TX - I like about 1500 names to go on that big 'un...too wasted to
do it now....hope you guys like what I have done....


Tuesday, June 28, 2005 at 12:26:41 (PDT)
Sandi Phillips
sphillips@tucsonairport.org

Hi Sam

Just took a gander at your death records - that is pretty amazing - you must be totally give out....talk at ya later....


Tuesday, June 28, 2005 at 20:52:50 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Sandi
Thanks, at least you recognize quality when you see it - e mail me your phone number and we will talk - just remember to take the space out before and after the @ in my address.

S


Wednesday, June 29, 2005 at 20:41:01 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net


The passing of a great Geanoligist.
Carlos Uvalto Womack went to be with his Lord today, Wednesday June 29 at 2:45 pm. Carlos had been in an Alzheimers hospital for quite some time.
Carlos was the author of 'The Descendants Of William and Mary Jane Womack' book and its revisions. He was a master from the old school that did not have the benefit of a computer to do his research on, but relied on researching libraries court houses and record archives in person.
Carlos and Ray Bryan Womack are probably comparing notes with their ancestors who have gone on before.
Our deepest sympathy in this time of grief and loss to niece Janet Brewer and family.
Jack


Thursday, June 30, 2005 at 11:06:57 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
womackhunter.homestead.com

I see Jack has posted the news about cousin Carlos. May he rest in peace.
For those of you in the CO area -
Services will be held at 2:00 PM at the Dewitt Funeral Home in Fountain, CO on Friday, July 1st. Visitation will be from 12:00 noon until 2:00. Burial will be at Memorial Gardens on Tues., July 5, 2005. Rev. Kirk Larson, the husband of a great-niece of Dodge City, KS will officiate.


Thursday, June 30, 2005 at 11:46:19 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
womackhunter.homestead.com

Beth, I'm sorry I've been off-line for a while as we had some health issues
around here for the last couple of months.

Anyway -
Kinchen R. 1850 Monroe Co. is indeed my ancestor.

I don't honestly know if William in Lowndes is his brother, son, nephew or cousin. My list of
Kinchen's children is based on the 1850 household. There
were alot of Williams running around, half of them related to the Lewis family
and they are a pain to sort out.

Since we don't know when Kinchen and Mary married, it's hard to say when
their first kid would be born. BUT, he had a kid named Wiley, which makes
me really wonder if he had a kid named William.

I seriously suspect that who you might have there is William aka Green
aka William Green, son of John and Sarah Avery Lewis Womack, b. abt
1822. NOT Green's nephew William Green or other nephew William,
who would both be too young.

But, I'll do some more checking.

Sam, thanks for the link! Great list. The only one I see there I know right
off the top of my head is uncle Wiley,
who died at the Confederate Home in Sweet Home, Ark. in 1927. Who, BTW, is the
above referred son of Kinchen.
There are a bunch who should be listed in Camden and Bearden, but they aren't. So
you just know some folks just didn't bother with gubmit forms.




Thursday, June 30, 2005 at 12:19:28 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Obit as written by Janet Brewer, posted with her permission.

Carlos Uvalto Womack was known as "Noot" or "Nootie" to his family & friends, Carl to his military friends, & Carlos to those working at The Brighton Gardens where he was living at the time of his passing on June 29, 2005. He was born on June 20, 1919, in Roosevelt, OK. His parents were Henry Kinchen & Mary Lou Etta (Shelton) Womack. His family then moved to Crowley, CO where he grew up & attended school. As a boy, Carlos was baptized & joined the Crowley Community Baptist Church & still remains a member there. During World War II, Carlos joined the Air Force from which he retired as a Chief Warrant Officer on Feb. 1, 1971 after 30 years of service to his country. He was military through & through. He married Alice Mayble Watson on Sept. 7, 1937. To this union, a son, Carlos Uvalto Jr.(Val) was born. While a junior at the Air Force Academy, Val contracted Hodgkin's disease & passed away on Feb. 9, 1965. Alice passed away on April 9, 1971. Carlos married Louise (Lou) Love Holten & they made their home in Colorado Springs, CO. Lou passed away on Aug. 14, 2004. Carlos was an avid genealogist & compiled an extensive history of the Womack family. His genealogy books are a part of the genealogy library at the Church of the Latter Day Saints in Salt Lake City, Utah. as well as at other libraries.
He was loved very much by his sisters, Elba Palmour of Ordway, CO & Henrietta Baker of Colorado Springs, his stepchildren, Lynda (Jerry) Winchell, Jay (Diane) Holten, & Tanya Tapper, his step grandchildren & great grandchildren as well as his nieces & nephews. He & Lou were interested in seeing that all had a chance for a college education & helped provide for that.
He was preceded in death by his parents, his two beloved wives, his son & 3 brothers, Wilfred, Jack, & LaVerne.
Services will be held at 2:00 PM at the Dewitt Funeral Home in Fountain, CO on Friday, July 1st. Visitation will be from 12:00 noon until 2:00. Burial will be at Memorial Gardens on Tues., July 5, 2005. Rev. Kirk Larson, the husband of a great-niece of Dodge City, KS will officiate.


Thursday, June 30, 2005 at 17:51:24 (PDT)
SAm
samsawadee@msn.com

Sorry to hear about Carlos - He will be missed..
Sam


Friday, July 01, 2005 at 00:39:34 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

A little TX trivia fer ye:

Mary C Womack High School
County: Gregg
Lakeport

Womack Cemetery
County: Montgomery
Keenan

Womac Ranch
County: Menard
San Augustine Draw

Womack Ranch Airport
Feature Type: airport
located 11 mi SW from Menard
County: Menard
San Augustine Draw

Womack Farm Airport
located 10 mi SW from Waco
County: McLennan
Gholson

Womack Lake
County: Lamar
Slate Shoals

Womack
County: Bosque
Laguna Park

Womack Branch
stream
County: Bosque
Laguna Park
Clifton

Womack Hall
Feature Type: locale
County: Bosque
Clifton


Sunday, July 03, 2005 at 20:02:15 (PDT)
Jim Lotspeich
lotspeich@dock.net

We are doing research for my mother for her DAR application and are seeking some printed reference to substantiate that Major Jacob Womack is the father of Martha Womack that married Robert Bean. Can any of you be of help? Several websites list the wife of Jacob to be either Mary Wills or Martha with no last name so we are confused there. But a Martha is listed as the daughter and we are seeking substantiation of that relationship for the DAR.

Mother is 89 years old, in poor health, and we are trying to get her application completed and to DAR before she passes. A cousin of hers has established the family link to Martha Womack and Robert Bean. We need to establish the link between Martha and her father Jacob.

Thank you for any assistance you can provide.


Monday, July 04, 2005 at 01:30:49 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Jim
Just dont use Mary Wills - she is the wife of my 4th great Jacob, a cousin to
the other Jacob and has been confused many times - I guess we will never get
people to make corrections...look thru the messages below and find a Beth--
she has done a lot on Major Jake - perhaps she can help you.
Sam


Monday, July 04, 2005 at 16:43:03 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
womackhunter.homestead.com

Jim, I've been checking the primary source documentation on various things, and at the moment can give you no primary sources on Martha Womack Bean - however - you don't need it.
Robert Bean, as I recall, was a veteran of the Revolutionary War. I think a Bean might be able to find the document faster than I can, but he was a member of the Over Mountain Men who fought at the Battle of King's Mountain on 7 Oct 1780. He was only 16 at the time but he was mustered up with his relatives. I do think I can tell you where to find a fairly decent listing of their children as a source - one of their grandchildren (which is escaping me) had a widow who filed a pension claim - and listed all KINDS of family information - the name escapes me - William R Womack? but I have the file listed in my notes as......WC 593 from the Indian Wars.
Also, if you want to invest $35 to see if there might be a tidbit of info to help you - the Bean family has a CD of The Bean Tree available - http://www.southernbeanassociation.org/library.htm -
has a link to where you can order it.
Robert Bean died 7 Nov 1824, and is buried in Beane-Roulston Cemetery, Marion Co., TN
Various descendants are members of the DAR, but as you know, they are making new members reprove the old lines to eliminate spurious data (HI SAM!)
Anyway, if you can prove to Robert Bean, you might as well stop there without getting to Jacob.
And then should she remain with us longer and enjoy this sort of thing, she could add Jacob with more research - but if speed is of the essence - go with Robert. The Southern Beans can help you, I'm sure.


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 07:23:52 (PDT)
Jan Wallace
copperpenny1@hotmail.com

I am searching for a will (if there is one) of Alexander Womack Jr. ( s/o Alexander and Martha Womack) who married Mecly/Milly Buckner. I descend thru their daughter Judith Womack who married James Buckner.


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 10:40:59 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Jan
Try Bedford Co TN after 1820.
Sam
(Alex thru Jacob, Judith's brother)


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 10:48:40 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Jan
Should have posted this also - from LDS files:

Alexander Womack
Birth: About 1745 Virginia
Death: About 1840
Father: Alexander Womack
Mother: Martha Alexander

Alexander Womac
Birth: About 1740 Lunenburg, Virginia
Death: About 1820
Father: Alexander Womac
Mother: Martha Pruitt

If you will note there are two different maiden names for his mother. Have no
idea of the validity of either; nor where anyone got either of them. Nor which of the alleged death years is correct.Would look anywhere between, and if you do find a will, please send me a transcript - I will be looking also and will
send you one if I find it.

You are aware his actual name was James Alexander Jr?? This is proven by the name of his last child, James Alexander Womack III.


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 14:06:59 (PDT)
Jim Lotspeich
lotspeich@dock.net

Ann, thanks for the information. Did Robert Bean die on 7 Nov 1824 or 17 Nov 1824? I have seen it listed both ways at different websites and listings.


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 15:28:37 (PDT)
Derrell
dsrobinson2@cox.net

BETH I HAD TO POST THE EMAIL I WANTED TO SEND YOU HERE MY COMPUTER POWER PACK BLEW OUT SO UNABLE TO GET EMAIL OUT RIGHT NOW SORRY

Sorry I haven't emailed ya lately had a thunder storm here and the lights went out and when they came back on the power pack on our computer blewso we r trying to get a new one but I went to the library over the weekend and have verification of Major Jacob Womack as truely being a Major actually about 2 or 3 sources states him being a Major in the Reveloutionary War. But here are a couple of deeds I found.

Washington Co. TN Deeds 1775-1800

May 1790

Jacob Womack to John Hampton, South Carolina, 162 Acres

p87-88 September 9th 1786 Jacob Womack, farmer, Burke Co., NC To John Hampton Camden District, S.C., 262 acres on the west side of Fain's branch. CONS: 50 lbs NC money. ADJ: William Carter. SIG. Jacob Womack. WIT: Joseph Greer, James Richardson, John Blanton.

p486-487 [very dim] March 15th 1799 James Wood, part of his 200 acre grant #1264 To Micheal Ingle; 100 acres. CONS: $200. ADJ: Jacob Wammuck, John McGinnes, James Parker, Fain, Henry Taylor, Christopher Taylor. SIG: James Wood. WIT: Wm Bayles, John Sliger, Sr. CT: May 1799

Here is where the verification of Jacob Womack being a Major. I'll just type the lines that lead to the mention of him.

Jacob Brown of Nolichucky (This was a short Bio of Jacob Brown/Jacob Womack only named in it once)

As William's stated, "Brown's forcefulness and capacity entitled him that recognition..." He and John Carter were the two Colonels under Major Jacob Wommack to insure the safety of the area.

MCMAHAN - BLAIR HOUSE

In 1774 John McMahan built a log house at the head of Knob Creek, which was the first house in what is now Tennessee to have a stone chimney and a shingled roof. Joseph and Robert Young, Jacob Womack, Abednego Inman, and the Cobb family were early residents of the Knob Creek community.

Washington County and the Revelutionary War

Jacob Brown and John Carter were both militia colonels: Jacob Womack was major.

Government by North Carolina

The settlements elected John Sevier, John Carter, Charles Robertson, Jacob Womack, and John Hail as representatives to the North Caolina Provincial Assembly meeting at Halifax, November and December 1776. Womack did not attend. ( My addings Beth ---> If Jacob Womack would have attended he would have been one of the first of many who signed North Carolina's first Constitution and Bill of Rights)

It mentions that by the advice"of the honorable the Council of Safety of said province, [we] have ventured to choose Messers John Sevier, Jacob Womack, Charles Robertson, John Carter and John Hail, delegates to representus in the provicial Congress."

An ordinance appended to the North Carolina Constitution named the members of the Washington District Court: Jacob Womack. (There were other names but I didn't type them in)Derrell Jr

In early 1777 the court reorganized and members were: Jacob Womack. (There were other names but I didn't type them in)Derrell Jr

The first term for the Washington County Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions met in February 1778 at the home of Charles Robertson (there was no courthouse). Those taking the oaths as justices of the peace, militia and officers were: Jacob Womack. (There were other names but I didn't type them in)Derrell Jr

County officials chosen were: Jacob Womack, stray master. (There were other names but I didn't type them in)Derrell Jr



Derrell


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 15:41:29 (PDT)
Karin Wammack
kariregi@yahoo.com

So is Alexander (married to Martha Alexander or Pruit) James Alexander Womack Sr?? Thank you!


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 18:34:12 (PDT)
Karin
samsawadee @ msn.com

Karin
Reading posts can be frustrting, I know -- but there is never been a post that changed the descent as follows:

Descendants of Alexander 1 Womack

1 Alexander 1 Womack b: 1710 Dale Parish, Henrico County, VA d: Bef. Apr 01, 1784 Prince Edward Co VA
...+Martha 2 b: Abt. 1720 m: Dec 13, 1742
...2 Alexander 2 Womack b: Aft. 1742 VA d: Bedford Co TN
......+Milly Buckner b: VA d: VA m: Abt. 1762 in VA
...................3 James Alexander III Womack b: 1797 VA d: Abt. 1877 McMinnville, Tn
......................+Mary Neal b: Abt. 1802 NC d: Abt. 1832 NC m: Abt. 1821 in Rutherford Co NC
......................*2nd Wife of James Alexander III Womack:
......................+Freelove Thompson b: Abt. 1805 d: Abt. 1877 m: Aft. 1832
......................*2nd Wife of Alexander 2 Womack:
......................+Sarah McDearmon b: Bet. 1754 - 1781 d: Bet. 1803 - 1871 m: Dec 25, 1798 in Prince Edward Co VA

As far as Martha's maiden name - someone gotta show me a birth cert or bible record - or a family document that shows the name - else - nothing but guesswork. Frivulous posting to LDS and Ancestry has caused all us Womacks a lot of problems - I never post to either unless I am sure - therefore, I have never posted..but some people gotta be a "hey looka me" ....no dang proof nothing - any thing I have out there - has to be looked at and verified - I do know what is fact and conjecture -- up to others to prove the conjecture...

By the way Ann, got your drift on the DAR thang!!


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 21:25:30 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Derrell, Ann and Jim Lotspeich,

Robert Bean, b. 3 May 1764, m. Martha Womack, was the son of Elizabeth Henderson and Lt. John Bean, son of William Bean and Elizabeth Hatton, Lt. John Bean was the brother of William Bean, who m. Lydia Russell, who were the parents of Jesse Bean, father of Col. Robert, Richard and Mark. (more about them below)

Children of Robert Bean and Martha Womack are:
1. Lemuel Bean, b. 1782 d. ca 1849 Itawamba Co., MS m. Sarah Unknown
2. Rhoda Bean, b. 1783 d. ca. 1848, m. John Howard Owens
3. Obadiah Bean, b. 1785 d. ca. 1840 Marion Co., TN m. Barbara Heifner
4. John Bean, b. 1788 d. ca. 1846 Itawamba Co., MS m. Sarah Unknown
5. Elizabeth Bean, b. 1789 d. ca. 1854 Itawamba Co., MS m. John Patton (their dau., Sarah Patton m. Asa Womack, son of William Womack (son of Abraham and Elizabeth Stubblefield) and Lucy Womack (dau. of Thomas Womack and Louvisa Rice)
6. William Bean, b. 1791 d. ca. 1839 Benton Co., AL m. Margaret Unknown
7. Robert Bean, b. 1794 d. ca. 1858 Marion Co., TN m. Sarah Wynne
8. Oliver Bean, b. 1796
9. Sarah Bean, b. 1798 d. ca. 1868 Cherokee Co., TX m. Benjamin F. Selman
10. Jesse Bean, b. 1800 d. ca. 1880 Webster Parish LA m. Nancy Sweeten and Naomi Pyburn
11. Martha Bean, b. 1803 d. ca. 1854 AL m. Levi Berry Womack, brother of the above Asa Womack

Let's get our heads together and see if we can come up with data on Major Jacob Womack and Captain Robert Bean in the same place at the same time. We know they were in Washington Co., TN together as the Overmountain Men fought under Col. John Sevier in the RW. John Sevier signed the Watauga Petition, which Maj. Jake was a committeeman. Here is another possible place where the Womack/Bean families were together. However I really think the Robert Bean below is Col. Robert Bean, son of Jesse Bean, son of William Bean.

1816 TAX LIST LAWRENCE CO., AR
BEAN, Robert
WOMACK, David, father of Larkin OR David of Randolph Co., AR (m. Katie Wood)
WOMACK, Jesse, father of Pleasant, et. al.
WOMACK, John (maybe John L. of Randolph Co., AR)
WOMACK, John (a second listing of the same name)
WOMACK, Johnson

The above Col. Robert Bean was too young to get his rank in the RW and would have been to old for the CW. .....maybe the War of 1812? This Robert Bean's grandfather, William Bean, was a commissioner with Maj. Jake on the Watauga Petition. His brothers Richard and Mark owned a salt mine in an area which became Lovely Co., AR. The Beans and partner ? Sanders were allowed to remain because of the government's need for salt. Mark Bean was the Sheriff of Crawford Co., AR 1821.

1828 Crawford County, Arkansas Tax List
MULBERRY TOWNSHIP
Bean, Mark
Bean, Robert

UPPER TOWNSHIP
Wamack, Larkin

"Several hundred people had made the Lovely Purchase their home, when on 16 Oct 1827 the Arkansas General Assembly, without governmental consent, created Lovely County and placed its seat of government at Nicksville, a few miles above the mouth of Sallisaw Creek in present Sequoyah County, Oklahoma. The Cherokees negotiated and entered a treaty 6 May 1828 whereby they exchanged their lands in Arkansas for seven million acres west of the Arkansas boundary, which was fixed by this treaty at its present location. Among other things, the government agreed to remove all white settlers. Congress passed an act 24 May 1828 providing two quarter sections of land for each head of family, widow or single man over twenty-one who had been displaced by the Treaty of 1828."

Among those families listed are:

WOMACK, JOHN AR Chicot 10/15/1833 Little Rock
WOMACK, JOHNSON AR Chicot 3/27/1834 Little Rock
WOMACK, LARKIN AR Sebastian 11/15/1830 Batesville
WOMACK, PLEASANT AR Desha 1/14/1850 Helena
WOMMACK, WILLIAM AR Jefferson 10/16/1838 Little Rock

The counties above were only the site of the land was they were awarded. I have found no record of any of the above Womacks in these counties.

Last known reference to Major Jacob Womack:
Grainger Co, TN - 1799 - David Womack, Johnston Womack Grainger Co, TN court records 1796 - 1802 (WPA transacription at TN State Archives) - several mentions of Jacob and David Womack. In one court record, Jacob referred to as Major Jacob Womack. In another court record, Jacob and David listed together as part of a jury to lay off a road.

The dates of two children of Maj Jake we can somewhat verify:

Martha Womack (m. Robert Bean) b. 20 Mar 1758 either Henrico Co., VA or Orange Co., NC
Johnson Womack (d. ca. 1838 Madison Co., AR) b. 2 Jan 1762 Goochland Co., VA, per his RW pension app.

From Carlos's book and also the research of Patricia Cox Jackson, a descendant of Johnson Womack:

Children of Maj. Jake we have to date:
1 Martha Womack, b 20 March 1758 d ca 1840 Benton Co Ala m Robert Bean b 3
May 1758
2 Sarah Womack, m ________ LANE (Son of Tidance Lane) *** This is possibly
William, son of Tidance/Tidence Lane
3 Johnson b. 2 Jan 1762 Goochland Co., VA d. ca. 1838 Madison Co., AR
4 John possibly John L. Womack Randolph Co., AR
5 Jesse (Pleasant M. Womack's father (census 1850 Madison Co., AR)
6 David *** Larkin Womack's father
All above the Arkansas early inhabitants
7 William Womack (Pendleton SC, White Co., TN)

Note: Jeremiah, Jonathan, and David of Grainger Co., TN; David and Johnson of Grainger and White Cos., TN. Also Jenkin and Jacob of early Arkansas 1820's

Ann wrote to Jim last week: "Robert Bean, as I recall, was a veteran of the Revolutionary War. I think a Bean might be able to find the document faster than I can, but he was a member of the Over Mountain Men who fought at the Battle of King's Mountain on 7 Oct 1780. He was only 16 at the time but he was mustered up with his relatives. I do think I can tell you where to find a fairly decent listing of their children as a source - one of their grandchildren (which is escaping me) had a widow who filed a pension claim - and listed all KINDS of family information - the name escapes me - William R Womack? but I have the file listed in my notes as......WC 593 from the Indian Wars."

Excerpt of names from Trish Carden's web site, which has a list of soldiers who fought in the Battle of Kings Mountain 7 Oct 1780 pertinent to this discussion:

George Bean
Jesse Bean
Jesse Bean (Capt.)
John Bean
Robert Bean
William Bean (Capt.)
Lane, Aquilla
Lane, Charles
Lane, Isaac
Lane, Isaac, Lieutenant
Lane, James
Lane, Jesse
Lane, John
Lane, Richard
Lane, Samuel
Lane, Tidence
Lane, William
John Sevier (Col.)
Jacob Womach (Capt.)

Derrell, the William R. Womack whom Ann noted above is possibly William, son of Maj. Jake I listed above. If you have an opportunity to work at the library soon, please see what you can come up with on Robert Bean and William Womack.

As Ann said, DAR is disallowing some memberships until further proof of ancestry. I have not seen any proof of Maj. Jake's marriage to a Martha or Mary, or any records where he was with Robert Bean. But we do have Maj. Jacob's marriage to Sarah Johnson in either Lunenburg or Goochland Co., VA.


Wednesday, July 06, 2005 at 06:35:46 (PDT)
Johnny Thomas
thomasjl22@cs.com

Looking for family lines for Mary Ann Womack.
Mary Ann Womack, Jun 10, 1879 Jun 19, 1916, wife of James T Carender,
Jun 02, 1867 Jan 07, 1944, m. Sep 21, 1894. They are both buried in Preston Bend Cemetery, Grayson County,Texas.This is my g/grandparents.
I hav no information about the Womack side of the family.
Can any onee help?
Thank you
Johnny


Wednesday, July 06, 2005 at 08:42:48 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

This may pin it down a little closer to when Robert was called Colonel:

From bios of Independence Co AR:
Col. Robert Bean ran the first keel-boat up White River and established himself at the mouth of Polk Bayou (Batesville AR) in 1814. So it would appear War of 1812 mebbe was when he became a Colonel.


Wednesday, July 06, 2005 at 10:03:22 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
womackhunter.homestead.com

I still can't dredge from my files or memory who the grandkid was who filed all that info in the pension - I suppose I could actually go look, but what's the fun in that! The William I was thinking of was actually son of Martha Bean and Levi Womack, but as we all know, William Womacks are thick on the ground.

As for when Robert died, I just checked and 2 different surveys of the cemetery say 17 Nov 1824, so until someone lays eyes on the stone, I think you should go with that. I've seen it both ways as well.

ANYWAY! Martha Womack Bean supposedly died at the home of her daughter Martha Bean Womack (don't you just love this stuff!) in what is now Calhoun Co. AL. Anyone happen to know where she was buried?

And, our friends in NC granted the following land grants to NC soldiers (which of course included TN at that point)
The heirs of Edmund Bean
The heirs of William Bean
Robert Bean (228 acres, 30 months in service)
the heirs of Jesse Bean
The heirs of Jacob Bean

I'm using the NC archives old index to search....just a sec, I have to send my brain back
10 years to use this interface.....darn it, he's listed there but I can't get it to pull up the record.
Someone might need to drift by the NC state archives and pull the Bean records up to see
where/when they were granted.





Thursday, July 07, 2005 at 02:00:40 (PDT)
derrell jr
dragonfly23452002@yahoo.com

1809 Grainger County, Tennessee Tax List

William Bean, 1 free poll
Heirs of Robert Bean, 320 acres B. Station G. Creek



Thursday, July 07, 2005 at 15:04:30 (PDT)
derrell jr
dragonfly23452002@yahoo.com

It mentions that by the advice "of the honorable the Council of Safety of said province, [we] have ventured to choose Messers John Sevier, Jacob Womack, Charles Robertson, John Carter and John Hail, delegates to represent us in the provincial Congress." They ended the petition by asking that " these our delegates be received and admitted to vote . . . and that part of the county now called Washington District may be erected into a seperate county of North Carolina . . . ". Those signing the petition were: Robert Bean, John Bean, William Bean, William Bean Sr. and Jesse Bean.

Beth there were lots of other names but thought you might want these keep in mind this petition happened at Halifax, November and December of 1776

The list I posted and put there were other names only one I found on the same things I found on Jacob Womack was William Bean

Beth the Lydia you mention was mentioned in that section I post Washington County and the Revolutionary War Here i what was said about her

An advanced scouting group of Indians captured Lydia Bean, wife of William Bean, hurrying to the fort. She was taken to an Indian village and was to be burned, but Nancy Ward stepped forward and saved her. Lydia Bean stayed with Nancy Ward for a short time and taught the Idian squaws how to make butter and cheese.

Beth there is lots where John Bean and William Bean pop up I have your home address if you want I will try and mail copies from the library to you. But I was going to send this deed info. here it is

Washington Co., TN Deeds 1775-1800

Jesse Bean to Richard Gates, 245 acres

The following Revolutionary War soldiers either enlisted in Washington County, lived in Washington County or died in Washington County.

Bean, John; in company of Dragoons to patrol
Bean, William; CPT, Watauga Riflemen
Beard, Robert; VA Line


Friday, July 08, 2005 at 03:26:37 (PDT)
derrell jr
dragonfly23452002@yahoo.com

Beth I am going to try to head up to the library today and I'll check on Robert Bean and William Womack for yall Lord Will nothing happens by then

Cuz


Friday, July 08, 2005 at 03:31:55 (PDT)
derrell jr
dragonfly23452002@yahoo.com

Title of Article Robert Bean-Martha Womack fam., TN, GA

Periodical American Genealogy Magazine
Stephenville, TX: Jul 1992. Vol. 7, Iss. 4



Surname BEAN, WOMACK

Record Type -

Subject -

Locale -

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Copies of this article may be obtained by completing the request form.


Friday, July 08, 2005 at 03:40:37 (PDT)
derrell jr
dragonfly23452002@yahoo.com

FOUND THIS STUFF AT --->

www.amarillolibrary.org

Select--Texshare Databases
USERNAME LOGIN--RMN1009
PASSWORD--------TX79189

CLICK--Heritage Quest Online (WILL BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF PAGE UNDER GENEALOGY AND HISTORY)

THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL HAVE ACCESS TO

Search Census
Search Books
Search Persi
Search Revolutionary War

TITLE OF ARTICLES I HAVE POSTED FOUND IN PERSI SECTION UNDER PEOPLE

Title of Article William Bean bio., Rev. War soldier, PA, NC

Periodical Hamblen Heritage
Morristown, TN: Spring 1998. Vol. 13, Iss. 2



Surname BEAN

Record Type -

Subject -

Locale -

States/Provinces -

Counties -

Countries -





Copies of this article may be obtained by completing the request form.


Sunday, July 10, 2005 at 04:56:11 (PDT)
Ann Lowy
bazsyb@aol.com

My Great Great Grandmother was Rhoda Womack born in South Lopham, Norfolk UK in 1799, married John Whitebread on 16 June 1818 in St Nicholas church, North Lopham, died March 6 1855 in Stoke Ash, Suffolk UK. Had 7 children.

In St Nicholas church is chart which staes Arthur Womack was rector of Lopham 1578-1607 and Laurence Womack 1607-1657.

Does anyone have any information about Rhoda's parents/siblings and whether she is related to the 2 rectors mentioned above?


Sunday, July 10, 2005 at 07:49:30 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

This tidbit may be of interest to someone;

SEARCY, ISHAM GREEN (1824-1902). Isham Green Searcy, lawyer, soldier, and public official, was born in Rutherford County, Tennessee, on February 24, 1824. He was educated in Tennessee, moved to Texas in his twenties, studied law, and opened a law practice at Anderson in Grimes County by 1853. He married JULIA WOMACK BAKER, probably before coming to Texas. They had three children. During the Civil Warqv he was a first lieutenant in Company D, Eighth Texas Infantry.


Sunday, July 10, 2005 at 16:38:18 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Ann Lowy
I have the info you want. Sent you an E mail - please read and get back to me.

Sam


Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 10:15:32 (PDT)
Patty Hersh
pattyh@wesleyic.com

I am looking for an Andy and Sue Womack that lived in Kansas City (prior to that in Chicago, Illinois). They had a son name Tom ... should be around 23 now.

We lost touch and have moved back to the midwest and are tryign to locate them.

Please help!!

Thanks,
Patty Hersh


Wednesday, July 13, 2005 at 19:20:18 (PDT)
Mary Conner
ttr225rider2001@yahoo.com

I am trying to track down my ancestors and have hit a road block. I have gotten to my Great Grandfather Emmett Womack (born 11/14/~1903, died 2/26/1996), wife Virgina Hale. I would like to find who my great grandfathers parents were, if anyone has any information I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!

Please note: There is, I believe, a descrepincy in his birth date. The death record shows his birthdate of 1930. I know this is not correct because my grandmother (one of his daughters) was born in 1926.


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 00:56:13 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Mary Conner~

With not much info to go on, except the SSDI dates of your Emmett Womack and a dau. b. in 1926, I will take a stab at the Womacks of MO.

Here's one who might just fit the bill:

1930 Benton Twp., Wayne Co., MO
Emmit B Wamack Benton, Wayne, MO abt 1895 Missouri White Head
Virginia M Wamack Benton, Wayne, MO abt 1907 Wife
Mary B Wamack Benton, Wayne, MO abt 1925 Daughter
Delbert E Wamack Benton, Wayne, MO abt 1926 Son
Loucile F Wamack Benton, Wayne, MO abt 1928 Daughter

This Emmett B. Womack was b. 30 Apr 1894 and d. 6 Dec 1989 Piedmont, Wayne Co., MO.

If you think this is the right Emmett, we'll take a look for his parents and siblings.

Beth


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 06:39:34 (PDT)
Mary Conner
ttr225rider2001@yahoo.com

Beth

Thank you very much! You are correct my great grandfather and great grandmother lived in Piedmont, MO. I believe my grandmothers (Emmett's wife) maiden name was Hale. Could you explain the Benton name to me? Also my grandmothers name was Mary Beatrice Womack (married to Walter Monroe McDowell), so I believe you have found the correct Womack's.

I had thought that my great grandfathers birthday was about 1903, it appears that he was born before that though.

Again thank you for the help and I greatly appreciate you helping my to find my ancestors. It would be great to be able to trace all the way back.

Mary


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 06:52:32 (PDT)
Derrell
dsrobinson2@cox.net

I believe u r right Beth here is what I found at www.familysearch.org

Emmett Byron Womack Compact Disc #5 Pin #582699
Sex: M

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Event(s):
Birth: 30 Apr 1894 Place: Annapolis, , MO
Death: 6 Dec 1989 Place: Piedmont, Wayne, Mo

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Parents:
Father:
Mother: Living

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Marriage(s):
Spouse: Virginia Mary Ann Hale Disc #5 Pin #582700

Marriage: 4 Jul 1923 Place:



Submitter:
Frankie rhodes
6428 S. 940 W , Murray, UT, United States of America 84123

Emmett WOMACK
Birth Date: 30 Apr 1894
Death Date: 6 Dec 1989
Social Security Number: 498-10-2102
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Missouri

Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 63957
Localities: Piedmont, Wayne, Missouri


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 08:27:56 (PDT)
Mary Conner
ttr225rider2001@yahoo.com

Derrell

Thanks for looking! Any ideas as to how I can find out who the parents of Emmet Womack and Virginia Hale are? I would really like to trace my family history back as far as I can. I am very interested in finding out who my ancestors were as well as what my blood lines are.

Thanks!


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 14:06:09 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Mary
Took me about 3 hours or so but came up with this onyour family line:

Name: Florence Eliza Jane Murphy
Sex: F
Birth: 13 MAY 1874 in Texas Co MO
Death: 3 JUN 1938 in Annapolis, Iron Co MO
Death: 12 JUN 1938
Burial: Minimum Cem in Minimum MO
Note:
Date: 11/5/01 8:37:59 PM Central Standard Time
From: nwomack@neb.rr.com (Nelson Womack)
To: hldebord@aol.com (abstracted by HLD)
I can help with the information of Stephen Gilmore DeBoard's second wife:
Her name was Florence E.J. Murphy, was born June 15, 1874 and died June 12, 1938. She was the daughter of William Murphy(but I do not have proof, family oral history). She married (1) Jasper Marion Womack on June 10, 1888. The had two sons: Edward Turl Womack (my grandfather), and Emmett Womack. Apparently they divorced. Jasper married Ella House and had several children. Florence E.J. married (2) Stephen Gilmore DeBoard on June 13, 1897 in Iron County, MO.
Nelson Womack

Subj: Florence Murphy Deboard (abstracted by HLD)
Date: 5/9/04 1:44:30 PM Central Daylight Time
From: nwomack@neb.rr.com (Nelson Womack)
I just received Florence (Murphy) DeBoard's death certificate in the mail the other day. Her full name was Florence Eliza Jane Murphy, born 5-13-1874 in Texas County, MO, died 6-3-1938 in Annapolis, Iron County, MO. Her parents are listed as Emmett Murphy and Armentie Ratliff.
Nelson Womack


Father: Emmett Murphy
Mother: Armentie Ratliff
Suggested Next Step:
Search OneWorldTree for:
Murphy, Florence Eliza Jane

Marriage 1 Jasper Marion Womack
Married: 10 JUN 1888
Children
Edward Turl Womack
Emmett B. Womack b: 1896 in MO

I found this by inputting her Deboard son, William into Ancestry...


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 15:31:37 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Mary,

Benton is the township they resided in.

Your Womack line goes like this: (ah so, ah so, again flying by the seat of my pants.....I probably need correcting on the lineage!)

Abraham Womack
William Womack + Mary Jane Allen
William Womack + Mary Elizabeth Farley
Abraham Womack + Elizabeth Stubblefield
William Womack + Lucinda Womack, dau. of Thomas & Louvisa Rice Womack
William "Buck" Womack + Sarah McBee
Abner Terril Womack
+ 1st Lucinda Hahn - died ca. 1865
+ 2nd Mary Pirtle Womack Jobe - divorced
+ 3rd Mary Johnson
Jasper Marion Womack
+ 1st Florence Elizabeth Jane Murphy Deboard
+ 2nd Ella House

Children of Jasper Marion Womack and Florence Eliza Jane Murphy are:
Edward Turl (Terril?) Womack, b. 9 Apr 1889, d. 4 Dec 1968
+ Minnie Mae Morris
Emmett Byron Womack, b. 30 Apr 1894, d. 6 Dec 1989
+ Virginia Mary Ann Hale

Your gggrandmother, Florence Eliza Jane Murphy, b. 13 May 1874, d. 12 June 1938, was the dau. of Emmett Murphy and Armentie Ratliff. Florence m. 2nd Steven Gilmore Deboard.

You have a "cuzzin", Nelson Womack, who also descends from Jasper Marion Womack. He is a researcher on WGN. His email addy is: nwomack@neb.rr.com


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 15:51:48 (PDT)
Kent Davis
DAVISTK@realtracs.com

Hello Womack Researchers,

I started working on my Womack line a couple of years ago. My line goes through (1)Hawkins Womack, (2)James Solomon Womack, (3)David Womack, (4)Agnes Jane Womack, (5)Annie B. Reeves, (6)Loyd Cooper Davis (my grandfather).

My grandfather is 96 years old and he gave me much of the information and went with me to various cemeteries in Bedford, Moore and Lincoln Counties in Tennessee. We live in Marshall County, Tennessee.

Does anyone know of a website that has this line posted? I would like to compare my work with others that have studied this line.

Thanks
Kent


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 16:33:36 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Kent you got the right bunch --
Just a litle prelim stuff - I am sure others will pitch in:

Descendants of Alexander 1 Womack

1 Alexander 1 Womack b: 1710 Dale Parish, Henrico County, VA d: Bef. Apr 01, 1784 Prince Edward Co VA
...+Martha 2 b: Abt. 1720 m: Dec 13, 1742
...2 David 03 Womack b: Abt. 1765 VA
.. +Elizabeth 07 b: Abt. 1773 VA m: Bef. 1794
.......3 Elisha H Womack b: Jul 04, 1789 Va. d: Jul 15, 1878 Lynchburg, Moore Co., Tn. Burial: Lynchburg Cem., Lynchburg, Moore Co., Tn.
.........+Mary 17
.......3 David 08 Womack b: Abt. 1790
.........+Elizabeth//2
.......3 Michael 1 Womack b: Abt. 1794 VA d: 1861 Howard Co., Ark. Burial: Corinth Cem., Corinth, Howard Co., Ark.
..........+Sarah 2 Jones b: Abt. 1795 NC d: Abt. 1865 Howard Co, AR m: 1810 in Bedford Co TN
.......3 Hawkins Womack b: Abt. 1806 VA d: 1854
..........+Jane Jenny Cooper b: abt 1808 NC

Alexander is my 5th great -


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 17:26:36 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Mary and Beth
Have some more information - goo, bad or indifferent - I am sending via e-mail as it is rather large for posting here - but the gist of it is - I cannot connect Jasper M to Abner T in anyway, census, LDS, nor Ancestry,

Sam


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 18:07:42 (PDT)
Nelson Womack
nwomack@neb.rr.com

Sam,

Jasper M. Womack is the son of Abner & Mary Ann "Polly" (Pirtle) Womack.

Jasper Marion Womack Obituary:

Jasper Marion Womack, was born to Abner and Polly Ann Womack; May 13, 1867 and departed this life on 7-8-1957, at the age of 90 years, one month,and 25 days. He was united in marriage to Ella Alma House on July 31, 1898, and to this union was born 10 children, 3 of whom preceded him in death, 2 sons, Luther and Ciccro and one daughter, Hazel. He leaves to morn his passing, his wife, Mrs. Ella Womack, 5 sons, Tom, Raymond, and Cecil of Van Buren, Willard of St. Louis, and Ralph of Sullivan. Two daughters, Mrs. Jewell Townsend of Van Buren and Mrs. Nellie Carpenter of St. Louis. Also two sons by previous marriage, Ed of Leadington and Emmett of St. Louis, 48 grandchildren, 60 great grandchildren, and 9 great, great grandchildren and a host of relatives and friends.
Services were held at the Assembly of God Church on July 10, 1957, with interment in the Van Buren Cemetery. McSpadden Funeral Home was in charge of the services.

He is also mentioned Christian Levi Womack's Obit.

C.L. Womack Obituary:

Christian Levi Womack, son of Abner and Lucinda Womack, was born on January 25, 1860 in Perry County, MO, and died at the home of his daughter, Mrs. C.M. Deitzel, in Redford, Mich., on Monday, December 25, 1939, aged 79 years 11 months.

Funeral services were held Thursday at 1:30 pm at the Flat River Church of Christ, followed by interment in the Mine La Motte Cemetery. Hood Service.

On November 6, 1881, he was untied in marriage to Sarah Dalton, who preceeded him in death seventeen years. They were the parents of seven children, a son Frank, a daughter Lellie (Mrs. J. W.) Wright and a stepson, William Buxton, having also preceded him in death.

He leaves to mourn his passing five daughters, Mrs. W.A. Green and Fred Arnoldi of Ecorse, Mich., Mrs. C.M. Deitzel of Redford, Mich., Mrs. Arthur Rogers and Mrs. Gus McMillen of Flat River; also a stepson, James Buxton of Ecorse, Mich., a half sister, Mrs. Wilbur Hughes of Doe Run; a half-brother, Jasper Womack of Van Buren; twenty grandchildren, seventeen great grandchildren, other relatives and many friends.

Early in life Mr. Womack was converted and at the time of his death was a member of the Church of Christ at River Rouge. He was loving father and grandfather and his kindly influence will live on in the hearts of everyone left behind.


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 19:20:15 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Thanks, Nelson! BTW - do you descend from Ed or Emmett?


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Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 21:26:23 (PDT)
Judy and Darrel Womack
jwma@comcast.net

Beth I wish to thank you, I just got a copy of my G Uncle's WW 1 draft card. He had talked so much about the 1st WW War, he and our son talk about Germany as our son was serving where Art had been fighting. Art died May 1987, at age 93.
Thank you again


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 23:15:51 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Your very welcome, Judy.


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 23:27:54 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Nelson
Thanks
that was my assumption even if I never found him on a census until later in life - however, methinks all the census data was not transcribed --


Friday, July 15, 2005 at 04:55:30 (PDT)
Nelson Womack
nwomack@neb.rr.com

Sam & Beth,

Sam you are correct about the census, I've never been able to find Jasper or his sister Susanna Rosella "Rose" in the 1870 census. I believe that they are with their mother, Mary Ann "Polly" Pirtle.

By 1880 Rose is married and living in Wayne County, MO:
Marriage License:

State of MO, County of Madison:
This is to certify that on the 17 day of June 1880 Mr. Lafayette Morris and Miss Rosella Womack were by me united in marriage according to the Laws of God and of the State of Missouri at my residence in the county of Madison and State of Missouri. Elder H.J. Uray
Filed for record Sept 3rd 1880 W.J. Collier Recorder

1880 U.S. Census Wayne County, MO

Dwelling #185, Family #186, Morris, Fayette, M, age 26, Head, Born in MO, Father born in MO, Mother born in MO; Morris, Rose, F, age 15, Wife, Born in MO, Father born in MO, Mother born in MO; Morris, Wm T., M, age 6, Son, Born in MO, Father born in MO, Mother born in MO; Morris, Sarah A., F, age 42, Mother, Born in IN, Father born in IN, Mother born in IN; Morris, John, M, age 21, Brother, Born in MO, Father born in IN, Mother born in IN; Morris, Lucinda, F, age 15, Sister, Born in MO, Father born in IN, Mother born in IN; Morris, Charles, M, age 23, Brother, Born in MO, Father born in IN, Mother born in IN

Jasper is also in Wayne County, MO in 1880; I believe that the Isaac J Wamac is Jasper M. Womack, because Mary married a Henry Hale in Madison County, MO June 8, 1873 and Mary had a brother named Isaac Jasper Pirtle. Her father's name was Isaac N. Pirtle.

1880 U.S. Census Wayne County, Benton Township, MO

Dwelling #224, Family #225, Hail, Henry, Head, M, age 51, Born in VA, Father born in VA, mother born in France; Hail, Mary, Wife, F, age 42, Born in IN, Father born in IN, Mother born in IN; Hail, Charles, Son, M, age 5, Born in MO, Father born in VA, Mother born in IN; Hail, George E., Son, M, age 2, Born in MO, Father born in VA, Mother born in IN; Wamac, Isaac J., Step-son, age 13, Born in IL, Father born in MO, Mother born in IN.

Beth

Edward Turl Womack, yes Turl is correct, was my grandfather.


Friday, July 15, 2005 at 16:09:43 (PDT)
KENT
DAVISTK@realtracs.com

Sam,

Thanks for the information. I had not began to look back past Hawkins Womack. I noticed that you did not have a death date for Jennie Cooper Womack. There are two gravestones for her in County Line Cemetery. The old one says Jennie Womack, age 83 years, a new one shows Jennie Cooper Womack 1803 - 1886, wife of Hawkins Womack 1806 - 1854. I have a picture of them. I also took pictures of the grave stones for D. S. Womack, Ruth Morris Womack, B. A. & Jane Womack and Agnes Jane Womack Reeves.

I also copied many marriage records for Womacks in Bedford, Lincoln and Moore Counties along with cemetery records.

Kent


Friday, July 15, 2005 at 17:19:23 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

All
I was puttering around with Google and came up with this URL

http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/deathrecords.html

It is basically what it implies - someone has went to a lot of time to gather and index this information -- some links dont work - some you can get the death information down to the wife and parents of the individual -- info and access varies by state -- some you have to pay to get in - when those come up I suggest you review the pages I placed Womack Death info on ---

I found there was info there on deaths that I didnt have access to at the time
I did my thing.

Give you an idea of what is available on some of the state pages, here is an example from SC:

View Details - Record: 2 of 8 records
Series: S213184 Volume - 0020 Page - 00495 Item - 01
Date: 1771/03/05
Description: WOMACK, ISHAM, PLAT FOR 400 ACRES IN CRAVEN COUNTY.
View Details - Record: 3 of 8 records
Series: S111001 Volume - 0013 Page - 00514 Item - 05
Date: 1775/06/16
Description: ELLIOTT, THOMAS, MEMORIAL FOR 13 TRACTS MAKING A TOTAL OF 2,950 ACRES IN S. C.
View Details - Record: 4 of 8 records
Series: S108092 Reel - 0162 Frame - 00177 ignore - 00
Date: 1776 C. OR LATER
Description: WOMACK, JACOB, ACCOUNT AUDITED (FILE NO. 8716A) OF CLAIMS GROWING OUT OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
View Details - Record: 5 of 8 records
Series: S108092 Reel - 0162 Frame - 00182 ignore - 00
Date: 1776 C. OR LATER
Description: WOMACK, JOHNSON, ACCOUNT AUDITED (FILE NO. 8716B) OF CLAIMS GROWING OUT OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
View Details - Record: 6 of 8 records
Series: L10005 Reel - 0010 Plat - 05323 ignore - 00
Date: 1776/04/20
Description: WOMACK, ABRAHAM, PLAT OF 1,000 ACRES ON WANDO RIVER, SURVEYED BY JAMES RIVERS. (C.345)
View Details - Record: 7 of 8 records
Series: S213190 Volume - 0032 Page - 00579 Item - 01
Date: 1796/02/13
Description: VICK, NANCY B., PLAT FOR 344 ACRES ON BRANCH OF BEAVER DAM CREEK, PENDLETON COUNTY, NINETY SIX DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY JOHN CLARKE KILPATRICK.
View Details - Record: 8 of 8 records
Series: S213192 Volume - 0038 Page - 00078 Item - 02
Date: 1800/09/27
Description: WOMACK, WILLIAM, PLAT FOR 120 ACRES ON BRANCH OF COLONELS FORK, PENDLETON COUNTY, WASHINGTON DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY JOHN CLARKE KILPATRICK.

Even tho the name is different, i.e. Vick, Womack is mentioned - the Series/Volume/Page/Item gives you the location if you want to obtain a copy of the document -- pretty neat huh??
Anyway jest wanted to share this with ya..


Friday, July 15, 2005 at 21:09:51 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

OOps
Yes I know the additional info from SC wasnt death info - but two of the names should interest Beth anyway!!


Saturday, July 16, 2005 at 07:41:13 (PDT)
David Womack
dwwomack1959@comcast.net

Been trying for years trace my Womack roots past my Grandfather
Granville Curtis Womack and I think I might finally have a connection.
All I knew about my great-grandfather was his name, "Joe" and he never married my great-grandmother (such a scandal for the times). I found a Joe Granville Womack that seems to fit, especially with the middle name Granville and that being my grandfather's first name. Here is what I know about this Joe Womack and his parents:

Descendants of Dennis Whitmore Womack

Generation No. 1
1. DENNIS WHITMORE WOMACK born 15 Jun 1857 in Pike, AR, and died 19 Jan 1929 in Centre Point, Howard, AR. He married MARTHA J. TRIBBLE 28 Feb 1877 in Hempstead, AR, daughter of JOHN TRIBBLE and SARAH FULKS. She was born 17 Nov 1858 in AR, USA, and died 15 Jul 1937 in AR, USA.

Children of DENNIS WOMACK and MARTHA WOMACK are:
i. JOSEPH GRANVILLE WOMACK, b. 27 Nov 1877, Arkansas; d. Bef. 1930.
ii. SALLY D. WOMACK, b. 1881, Arkansas; m. JIM THOMAS, 19 Jan 1916.
iii. LULA WOMACK, b. 12 Sep 1883, Arkansas.

Generation No. 2

2. JOSEPH GRANVILLE WOMACK was born 27 Nov 1877 in Arkansas, and died Bef. 1930. He married (1) NORA V. WILEY 27 Jan 1901, daughter of ROBERT WILEY and SARAH UNKNOWN. She was born Feb 1881 in Texas, and died Bet. 1908 - 1910 in Texas. He married (3) MYRTIE CRAWFORD 19 Oct 1924.

Notes for JOSEPH GRANVILLE WOMACK:
1910 U.S. Census Texas Hunt 2 Justice Precinct.
1917 World War I Draft Registration Card Collin Farmersville. Next of Kin listed as Mrs. M.J. Womack of Center Point, Arkansas
1920 U.S. Census Texas Collin Farmersville ED# 15 listed as a lodger in the household of Henry Dillan.

Children of JOSEPH WOMACK and NORA WILEY are:
i. WILLIAM DENNIS WOMACK, b. 12 Nov 1901, Texas; d. 19 Dec 1973, Ozona, Crockett, Texas.
ii. CLOVIS CAHAL WOMACK, b. 14 Apr 1908, Texas; d. 13 Mar 1966, Tom Green, Texas.

My Grandfather was born 24 Jun 1912 in Fannin County, Texas.

Does anyone know anything about this Joseph Granville Womack and family? I am at a major brick wall on this. Thanks in advance.

David Womack


Saturday, July 16, 2005 at 10:53:37 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

David
Best I could do for right now

1. DAVID DICKINS 17 WOMACK (MICHAEL 16, DAVID 035, ALEXANDER 14, RICHARD JR3, RICHARD SR.2, WILLIAM 011) was born Dec 07, 1829 in Bedford Co TN, and died Mar 06, 1898 in Howard Co AR. He married LYDIA EMALINE LOKEY Mar 06, 1848. She was born Apr 25, 1828, and died Jun 19, 1913 in Howard Co AR.

Notes for DAVID DICKINS 1 WOMACK:
David was a millwright - owned and operated the Nashville Woolen Mill which produced jeans,
flannels, blankets, etc.David was a millwright - owned and operated the Nashville Woolen Mill which produced jeans, flannels, blankets, etc .

1880 Census, Nashville, Howard Co, AR
David WOMACK Self M Male W 50 TN Miller VA SC
Liddy E. WOMACK Wife M Female W 57 TN Keeping House TN TN
Jeamul M. WOMACK Son S Male W 21 AR At School TN TN
David D. WOMACK Son S Male W 19 AR Farm Laborer TN TN
Josephine WOMACK Dau S Female W 15 AR At Home TN TN
Katherine WOMACK Dau S Female W 11 AR At Home TN TN
Liddy, or Lydia's age is shown as 57 on the original census image - does conflict with
actual birthdate.

1870 Census Brewer Twp, Pike Co, AR, Dwelling/Family 45/45

David D Womack age 40 born TN
Lydia E age 41 Born TN
Sarah E age 20 born AR[all children born AR]
Charles W age 18
Francis A age 16 [female]
Dennis W age 14
James M age 12
John D age 10
Mary I or J age 05
Katie E age 02
David A age 14 [see 1870 above, age conflict]

You will note in the genealogy report, the lineage --
I had a heckuvva time trying to find Joe or Joseph Granville. could not
find on 1880 nor 1900 censuses. Ar Nor TX
Couldnt find Dennis on the 1880, AR nor TX.


Saturday, July 16, 2005 at 17:15:46 (PDT)
David Womack
dwwomack1959@comcast.net

Sam,
Thanks so much for the information.
David


Saturday, July 16, 2005 at 22:18:57 (PDT)
patricia harlan
PLangH99@aol.com

Can anyone identify the Richard Womack who was divorced in Simpson County, MS
in 1834. His wife was Lucinda. In the Superior Court records it states she
went to Alabama for a short time and then moved to Smith County, MS. The records also mentions a child. Who is Richard's father? There are several
Richard Womack in Simpson County, MS in 1830.


Sunday, July 17, 2005 at 12:25:41 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

David,

On the 1920 Greenville, Hunt Co., Texas, there's a J. E. Womack, age 24. I found his draft registration card, dated 4 June 1917. His name is Joseph E. Womack, b. 29 Nov 1895. He is single, living at Rt. 1, Greenville, TX On the card where it says "who to notify" it has J. M. Womack. Another Womack with the same info is Lester M. Womack, b. 16 Nov 1896. They are brothers. Greenville is not that far from Leonard.

I've traced this line back to 1860.


Sunday, July 17, 2005 at 12:27:13 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

David
Thought you might like to know where they were interred:

HOWARD COUNTRY AR
Old Corinth Cemetery
Womack, Dennis W. -- Jun 15, 1857 - Jan 19, 1929;
Womack, James Michael -- Jul 01, 1859 - May 22, 1885; Son of D. D. & Lydia )Dennis' Brother)
Womack, D. D. -- Dec 07, 1829 - Mar 06, 1898, Age 68 yr 2 mo 29 d; (Dennis' father)
Womack, Lydia E. -- Apr 25, 1828 - Jun 19, 1913; Wife of D. D. Womack (Dennis'mother)
Womack, Michael -- 1794 - 1861; Sarah Jones -- 1795 - 1865; (Dennis' grandparents)
War of 1812 Honor of Service Marker (Michael has been given credit as the TN marksman that
killed Gen Packingham at the Battle of New Orleans


Monday, July 18, 2005 at 14:46:23 (PDT)
Raechelle
shelle007@yahoo.com

Can anyone give me directions to the Hutchins Cemetery in Jack Co Texas? I have searched the Web to no avail. I am going there next week if I can figure out how to get there. My great great Grandfather William Jefferson Womack and several other family members are buried there. I will be willing to share photographs when I get back from my trip.

Thanks in Advance
Raechelle


Monday, July 18, 2005 at 16:18:13 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Raechele
The cemetery is near Jacksboro TX - his obit is at
http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/RandysTexas/images/WomackObit1.JPG -

and another reference is at http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/RandysTexas/womack.html




Monday, July 18, 2005 at 18:04:30 (PDT)
Melissa
mnbrown2003@yahoo.com

I am searching for info about Copiah County Mississippi Browns and Boyds.

I am the granddaughter of Shurly Boyd, who later changed his name to Sheddie Brown, adopting the surname of his father Alpheus Brown and Beulah Boyd.

I belive Alpheus Brown's cousin Burdean Womack attended Coppiah County Public School in Hazelhrst, Mississippi. He was born March 20, 1915





Monday, July 18, 2005 at 23:52:03 (PDT)
Derrell
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ATTN Raechelle e-mail Janet Walker at this e-mail she had told me before it is on private land but if I was to go there she would give me here cousins as a way to contact them and they might be able to have gotten me on the land so write her and she will probably help ya with it all just tell her I told ya to e-mail her. Janet--->walkerjt@ptsi.net

And I would love to have copies of those pics if you don't mind when you get ready


Monday, July 18, 2005 at 23:57:24 (PDT)
Derrell
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ATTN Raechelle if you take photos of the graves if you don't mind take pictures of all of the even the one that says Womack, infant on it and I will pay you for those thx


Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 02:58:18 (PDT)
robyn margaret murphy
smurphy@pgwc.gov.za

hi
i am searching for my great grandfathers,relatives.his name was edward, murphy and he had a son by the name of william birch murphy.edward was irish, and has joined the british army,was sent to south africa,where he married and raised his family.if anyone could assist with me with his distant relatives etc, it would be highly appreciated: my e mail addy as foloows:
smurphy@pgwc.gov.za
many thanks

regards


Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 06:25:08 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Raechele
What you want are the Texas cemetery sites I use, Go to
http://www.usgennet.org/usa/tx/topic/cemeteries/index.html
There are 32 listings in the Hutchins cemetery and two are Womacks
Womack, Infant Aug 27, 1924 Aug 27, 1924
Womack, William J. 19th Tx Cav. Co. F Walkers Div.

Other good sites are http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~t42cemeteries/
Many photos Here http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~t42cemeteries/
Paul may have directions for you, paulsmith@copper.net
Jack


Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 09:28:06 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Jack,
The first link you mentioned has been redone - at least from the main page when you click in on TX Cemeteries - I found only a couple workable links and a week or so ago was in there and it was set up differently and worked fairly well.

The second link is better and is better set up than the other was when it ws working.


Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 10:50:13 (PDT)
Jack Womack
Jackwomack@grandecom.net

Sam
I just checked and both of these links are working fine.

http://www.cemeteries-of-tx.com/ and the mirror site at;

http://www.usgennet.org/usa/tx/topic/cemeteries/

Gary Webb and Gloria Mayfield have put a lot of effort in the site, they have added New Mexico, Oklahoma and now Louisiana. I try to contribute as much as I can by walking out cemeteries I visit and record what I can. These guys need all the help they can get. There are some interesting links also, one the "Executions" list the burial places of those that were executed by the state.
Another good site is The Lone Star Junction at http://www.lsjunction.com/
not a cemetery site but a lot of info on the early settlers.


Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 11:03:19 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Sam
I forgot to mention I was in the Pioneer Cemetery in Eastland Co TX recently for my wifes cousin's funeral and discovered something unusual. All cemeteries bury with the person facing East, this is traditional. There is a grave in the Pioneer Cemetery where the person is facing South, I was told that it was the grave of a horse thief that was hanged where he was caught on a hill close to Rising Star TX. This was done to warn all cattle and horse thief that they could not see Heaven in the East The Cemetery was founded in 1879 if my memory serves me right.
Jack



Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 14:38:21 (PDT)
Derrell
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Hello all I went to a Womack reunion in Duncan,Ok over the weekend seen my 91yr old great grandma she is doing pretty good she's still dipping her snuff LOL but anyways everything went well. I met Linda Womack Lewis she has been on here before she is my second cousin and I met and seen 3rd and 4th cousins. About 30 or more people was there and one of my uncles said 2yrs or so ago there was 3times that many so anyways my great aunts filled me in on some stuff. The Womack's owned land there there and it is now Duncan Lake. But I am going to try and go back in August on my vacation Lord's will nothing happens by then. Now I see why we haven't gotten all the Womack line info. yet LOL Families are huge. But anyways figured I'd let yall know I did finally make it to the reunion.


Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 16:02:07 (PDT)
David Womack
dwwomack1959@comcast.net

Justed wanted to thank Beth and Sam for there help and info provided below.
Also, wanted to provide a link to another site with cemetery information:

http://www.findagrave.com/index.html

I use it off and on, does have ads though.

David


Wednesday, July 20, 2005 at 15:48:48 (PDT)
Raechelle Janzen
shelle007@yahoo.com

Here are the directions that I got from Erin Dent for the Hutchens Cemetery. She got them from someone who has a Jack Co TX history book. Thanks Erin!!!

Raechelle Janzen

Hutchens Cemetery
Located 4 miles North of Jacksboro on the old Postoak Rd, turn right through double gate and follow road 1 mile east. The cemetery is on the Austin Callaway place.


Friday, July 22, 2005 at 02:18:32 (PDT)
Harold Williams
williamsharold38@aol.com





Posted by: Harold Williams
07/20/2005, 18:17:20

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: EASY WAY TO GET RICH


:=Posted By: Harold
:=Date: Wednesday, 16 January 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
:=In Response To: Re: make money and get rich fast and easy (C. Begne)
:=
:=: Author: jay
:=: Subject: Make 800,000$ with only SIX DOLLARS!
:=: Make 800,000 dollars in just a few months!!!
:=: Posted by Reda on Friday, 20 June 2003, at 3:24 a.m.
:=
:=: Dear Friends: Greetings: I am a retired attorney. A few years ago a man came to me with a letter. He asked me to verify the fact that this was legal to do. I told him I would review it and get back to him. When I first read the letter my client brought me, I thought it was some ?off-the-wall? idea to make money. A week and a half later we met in my office to discuss the issue. I told him the letter he originally brought me was not 100% legal. My client then asked me to alter it to make it perfectly legal. I asked him to make one small change in the letter. I was still curious about the letter, so he explained to me how it works. I thought it seemed like a long shot, so I decided against participating. But before my client left, I asked him to keep me updated on his results. About two months later, he called me to tell me he had received over $800,000 in cash. I didn?t believe him, so he asked me to try this idea and find out for myself. I thought about it for a couple of days and decided I really didn?t have anything to lose, so I asked him for a copy of the letters. I followed the instructions exactly, mailed 200 copies, and sure enough, the money started coming in! It arrived slowly at first, but coming. I kept a precise record of the earnings, and in the end, it totaled $978,493! I could hardly believe it. I met with my friend for lunch to find out exactly how it worked. He told me there are quite a few similar letters around, but this one is different because there are six names at the end of the letter, not five like some others. This fact alone results in your name being in far more returns. The other fact was the help I gave him, making sure the whole thing was legal, since no one wants to take the risk of doing something illegal.
:=
:=: By now you are surely curious to know what small changes to make. If you sent a letter like this one out, in order to be completely legal, you must actually sell something in order to receive a dollar in return. So when you send a dollar to each of the names on the list, you must include these words, ?PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST? and include your name and address. This is the key to the program. The item you will receive for the dollar you sent to the six people below is the letter.
:=
:=: At the time I first tried this idea, I was earning a good living as a lawyer. But everyone in the legal profession will tell you there is a lot of stress that comes with the job. I told myself if things worked out, I would retired from my practice and play golf. I decided to try the letter again, but this time I sent 500 copies. Three months later , I had totaled $2,341,178!
:=
:=: Here are a few reasons a person might give for not trying this program: ?Some people think they can never make a lot of money with anything this simple. ?Some are afraid they will be ridiculed for trying ?Some dream of large sums of money, but do nothing to actually achieve it. ?Some are just plain lazy. ?Some are afraid of losing their investment. They think this program is designed to beat them out of a few dollars.
:=
:=: The system works if you will just try it. But you must follow the simple instructions exactly, and in less than three months, you will receive $800,000 GUARANTEED! Keep what you are doing to yourself for awhile. Many will tell you it won`t work and will try to talk you out of your dreams. Let them know of your success after it works.
:=
:=: LETTERS FROM PARTICIPANTS IN THIS PROGRAM:
:=
:=: My name is David Rhodes. In 1992 my car was repossessed and bill collectors were housing my. I was laid off and my unemployment ran out. In October of 1992, I received a letter telling me how to earn $800,000 anytime I wanted. Of course, I was skeptical. But because I was so desperate and virtually had nothing to lose, I gave it a try. In January 1993, my family and I went on a 10-day cruise. The next month I bought a brand new Mercedes with cash! I am currently building a home in Virginia and I will never have to work again. This money program really works perfectly every time. I have never failed to receive less than $500,000. This is a legitimate, money-making opportunity. It does not require you to sell anything or to come in contact with people. And , best of all, you only leave the house to mail the letters. If you have always believed that someday you would get the lucky break, then simply follow the instructions and make dreams come true.
:=
:=: Larry McMahon, Norfolk, VA Six months ago, I received this letter and ignored it. Five more came within a period of time and I ignored them also. I was tempted, but I was convinced that they were just a Hoax. After three weeks of deliberating, I decided to give it a try ( not expecting much ). Two weeks went by and nothing happened. The fourth week was unbelievable! I cant say I received $800,000 but I received $400,000. For the first time in years, I am debt free. I am doing this again, only this time starting with 500 post. I strongly recommend that you follow the instructions exactly as outlined in this letter.
:=
:=: INSTRUCTIONS 1. Immediately send $1.00 to each of the six people on the list at the end of this letter. Wrap the dollar bill in a note saying ? Please add me to your mailing list? and include your name and address.
:=: 2. Copy this letter. You do not have to type it 200 times. Simply place your cursor at the top of the page, hold it and drag it all the way down to the end of the letter. Then click on "edit" and select "copy". Now open up a notepad file on your computer and put the cursor at the top of the page in the notepad, click on 'edit' and then select 'paste' it will copy the letter for you onto your computer.
:=: 3. Remove the name next to the #1 on the list and move the rest of the names up one position (#2 becomes #1, #3 becomes #2, etc?..) Then place your name in the #6 position. Then save it, make sure it is saved as a txt. file.
:=: 4. When you have completed the instructions, take this letter and then go to (Google,Yahoo,...) and type in (Making Money Massege board,or post massege,...)and start posting your copy to 200 message boards,or more this is only the minimum, you can post as much as you like...The more copies you send the better the results. Keep a copy of this letter so you can use it a second time. Post it out again in six months, but Post it with the addresses you receive with each dollar. It will work better the second time. NOTE: This service is 100% legal - (Refer to title 18 section 1302 of the U.S. Postal & lottery laws)
:=: How does it work? When you send out 200 Posts, it is estimated that at least 15 people will respond and send you a $1.00. ($15.00) Those 15 will Post 200 Posts each and 225 people send you $1.00 ($225.00) Those 225 people Post 200 Posts each and 3,375 people send you $1.00 ($3,375.00) Those 3,375 post 200 posts each and 759,375 people send you $1.00 ($759,375.00) At this point your name drops off the list, but so far you have received $813,615.00. P.S. When your money begins to come in, give the first 10% to charity with spirit and share a good fortune!
:=
:=
:=: 1. Jonathon Markwood 3308 Birdsong Way
Birmingham, AL 35242
:=: 2. p. Ortner 29 Briarlee Dr. Tonawanda, NY 14150
:=: 3. Heidi Young 7409 StHWY 206 Sidney Center
NY 13839
:=: 4. Josh Larson 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris IL
61054
:=: 5. Dustin Garcia 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris
IL 61054
:=: 6. Harold N. Williams Jr. P.O. Box 740732 San Diego, Ca 92174
:=
:=: This really really works,I tried it once and I'm doing it again, first to be honest I only posted 145 posts and I didn't recive alot only 6,689.00$ in 3 months,at least this means that it realy works ,so this time I'm posting 604 posts and I've got so far in 2 month 15,640.00$ this is realy like a dream come true. So go on and try it trust me you've got nothing to lose....
:=
:=: important tip - Cover money by paper fully by which it can not been seen in light , because postal employees do some cheat some times....ok



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Posted by: Harold Williams
07/20/2005, 18:17:20

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: EASY WAY TO GET RICH


:=Posted By: Harold
:=Date: Wednesday, 16 January 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
:=In Response To: Re: make money and get rich fast and easy (C. Begne)
:=
:=: Author: jay
:=: Subject: Make 800,000$ with only SIX DOLLARS!
:=: Make 800,000 dollars in just a few months!!!
:=: Posted by Reda on Friday, 20 June 2003, at 3:24 a.m.
:=
:=: Dear Friends: Greetings: I am a retired attorney. A few years ago a man came to me with a letter. He asked me to verify the fact that this was legal to do. I told him I would review it and get back to him. When I first read the letter my client brought me, I thought it was some ?off-the-wall? idea to make money. A week and a half later we met in my office to discuss the issue. I told him the letter he originally brought me was not 100% legal. My client then asked me to alter it to make it perfectly legal. I asked him to make one small change in the letter. I was still curious about the letter, so he explained to me how it works. I thought it seemed like a long shot, so I decided against participating. But before my client left, I asked him to keep me updated on his results. About two months later, he called me to tell me he had received over $800,000 in cash. I didn?t believe him, so he asked me to try this idea and find out for myself. I thought about it for a couple of days and decided I really didn?t have anything to lose, so I asked him for a copy of the letters. I followed the instructions exactly, mailed 200 copies, and sure enough, the money started coming in! It arrived slowly at first, but coming. I kept a precise record of the earnings, and in the end, it totaled $978,493! I could hardly believe it. I met with my friend for lunch to find out exactly how it worked. He told me there are quite a few similar letters around, but this one is different because there are six names at the end of the letter, not five like some others. This fact alone results in your name being in far more returns. The other fact was the help I gave him, making sure the whole thing was legal, since no one wants to take the risk of doing something illegal.
:=
:=: By now you are surely curious to know what small changes to make. If you sent a letter like this one out, in order to be completely legal, you must actually sell something in order to receive a dollar in return. So when you send a dollar to each of the names on the list, you must include these words, ?PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST? and include your name and address. This is the key to the program. The item you will receive for the dollar you sent to the six people below is the letter.
:=
:=: At the time I first tried this idea, I was earning a good living as a lawyer. But everyone in the legal profession will tell you there is a lot of stress that comes with the job. I told myself if things worked out, I would retired from my practice and play golf. I decided to try the letter again, but this time I sent 500 copies. Three months later , I had totaled $2,341,178!
:=
:=: Here are a few reasons a person might give for not trying this program: ?Some people think they can never make a lot of money with anything this simple. ?Some are afraid they will be ridiculed for trying ?Some dream of large sums of money, but do nothing to actually achieve it. ?Some are just plain lazy. ?Some are afraid of losing their investment. They think this program is designed to beat them out of a few dollars.
:=
:=: The system works if you will just try it. But you must follow the simple instructions exactly, and in less than three months, you will receive $800,000 GUARANTEED! Keep what you are doing to yourself for awhile. Many will tell you it won`t work and will try to talk you out of your dreams. Let them know of your success after it works.
:=
:=: LETTERS FROM PARTICIPANTS IN THIS PROGRAM:
:=
:=: My name is David Rhodes. In 1992 my car was repossessed and bill collectors were housing my. I was laid off and my unemployment ran out. In October of 1992, I received a letter telling me how to earn $800,000 anytime I wanted. Of course, I was skeptical. But because I was so desperate and virtually had nothing to lose, I gave it a try. In January 1993, my family and I went on a 10-day cruise. The next month I bought a brand new Mercedes with cash! I am currently building a home in Virginia and I will never have to work again. This money program really works perfectly every time. I have never failed to receive less than $500,000. This is a legitimate, money-making opportunity. It does not require you to sell anything or to come in contact with people. And , best of all, you only leave the house to mail the letters. If you have always believed that someday you would get the lucky break, then simply follow the instructions and make dreams come true.
:=
:=: Larry McMahon, Norfolk, VA Six months ago, I received this letter and ignored it. Five more came within a period of time and I ignored them also. I was tempted, but I was convinced that they were just a Hoax. After three weeks of deliberating, I decided to give it a try ( not expecting much ). Two weeks went by and nothing happened. The fourth week was unbelievable! I cant say I received $800,000 but I received $400,000. For the first time in years, I am debt free. I am doing this again, only this time starting with 500 post. I strongly recommend that you follow the instructions exactly as outlined in this letter.
:=
:=: INSTRUCTIONS 1. Immediately send $1.00 to each of the six people on the list at the end of this letter. Wrap the dollar bill in a note saying ? Please add me to your mailing list? and include your name and address.
:=: 2. Copy this letter. You do not have to type it 200 times. Simply place your cursor at the top of the page, hold it and drag it all the way down to the end of the letter. Then click on "edit" and select "copy". Now open up a notepad file on your computer and put the cursor at the top of the page in the notepad, click on 'edit' and then select 'paste' it will copy the letter for you onto your computer.
:=: 3. Remove the name next to the #1 on the list and move the rest of the names up one position (#2 becomes #1, #3 becomes #2, etc?..) Then place your name in the #6 position. Then save it, make sure it is saved as a txt. file.
:=: 4. When you have completed the instructions, take this letter and then go to (Google,Yahoo,...) and type in (Making Money Massege board,or post massege,...)and start posting your copy to 200 message boards,or more this is only the minimum, you can post as much as you like...The more copies you send the better the results. Keep a copy of this letter so you can use it a second time. Post it out again in six months, but Post it with the addresses you receive with each dollar. It will work better the second time. NOTE: This service is 100% legal - (Refer to title 18 section 1302 of the U.S. Postal & lottery laws)
:=: How does it work? When you send out 200 Posts, it is estimated that at least 15 people will respond and send you a $1.00. ($15.00) Those 15 will Post 200 Posts each and 225 people send you $1.00 ($225.00) Those 225 people Post 200 Posts each and 3,375 people send you $1.00 ($3,375.00) Those 3,375 post 200 posts each and 759,375 people send you $1.00 ($759,375.00) At this point your name drops off the list, but so far you have received $813,615.00. P.S. When your money begins to come in, give the first 10% to charity with spirit and share a good fortune!
:=
:=
:=: 1. Jonathon Markwood 3308 Birdsong Way
Birmingham, AL 35242
:=: 2. p. Ortner 29 Briarlee Dr. Tonawanda, NY 14150
:=: 3. Heidi Young 7409 StHWY 206 Sidney Center
NY 13839
:=: 4. Josh Larson 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris IL
61054
:=: 5. Dustin Garcia 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris
IL 61054
:=: 6. Harold N. Williams Jr. P.O. Box 740732 San Diego, Ca 92174
:=
:=: This really really works,I tried it once and I'm doing it again, first to be honest I only posted 145 posts and I didn't recive alot only 6,689.00$ in 3 months,at least this means that it realy works ,so this time I'm posting 604 posts and I've got so far in 2 month 15,640.00$ this is realy like a dream come true. So go on and try it trust me you've got nothing to lose....
:=
:=: important tip - Cover money by paper fully by which it can not been seen in light , because postal employees do some cheat some times....ok



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Posted by: Harold Williams
07/20/2005, 18:17:20

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: EASY WAY TO GET RICH


:=Posted By: Harold
:=Date: Wednesday, 16 January 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
:=In Response To: Re: make money and get rich fast and easy (C. Begne)
:=
:=: Author: jay
:=: Subject: Make 800,000$ with only SIX DOLLARS!
:=: Make 800,000 dollars in just a few months!!!
:=: Posted by Reda on Friday, 20 June 2003, at 3:24 a.m.
:=
:=: Dear Friends: Greetings: I am a retired attorney. A few years ago a man came to me with a letter. He asked me to verify the fact that this was legal to do. I told him I would review it and get back to him. When I first read the letter my client brought me, I thought it was some ?off-the-wall? idea to make money. A week and a half later we met in my office to discuss the issue. I told him the letter he originally brought me was not 100% legal. My client then asked me to alter it to make it perfectly legal. I asked him to make one small change in the letter. I was still curious about the letter, so he explained to me how it works. I thought it seemed like a long shot, so I decided against participating. But before my client left, I asked him to keep me updated on his results. About two months later, he called me to tell me he had received over $800,000 in cash. I didn?t believe him, so he asked me to try this idea and find out for myself. I thought about it for a couple of days and decided I really didn?t have anything to lose, so I asked him for a copy of the letters. I followed the instructions exactly, mailed 200 copies, and sure enough, the money started coming in! It arrived slowly at first, but coming. I kept a precise record of the earnings, and in the end, it totaled $978,493! I could hardly believe it. I met with my friend for lunch to find out exactly how it worked. He told me there are quite a few similar letters around, but this one is different because there are six names at the end of the letter, not five like some others. This fact alone results in your name being in far more returns. The other fact was the help I gave him, making sure the whole thing was legal, since no one wants to take the risk of doing something illegal.
:=
:=: By now you are surely curious to know what small changes to make. If you sent a letter like this one out, in order to be completely legal, you must actually sell something in order to receive a dollar in return. So when you send a dollar to each of the names on the list, you must include these words, ?PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST? and include your name and address. This is the key to the program. The item you will receive for the dollar you sent to the six people below is the letter.
:=
:=: At the time I first tried this idea, I was earning a good living as a lawyer. But everyone in the legal profession will tell you there is a lot of stress that comes with the job. I told myself if things worked out, I would retired from my practice and play golf. I decided to try the letter again, but this time I sent 500 copies. Three months later , I had totaled $2,341,178!
:=
:=: Here are a few reasons a person might give for not trying this program: ?Some people think they can never make a lot of money with anything this simple. ?Some are afraid they will be ridiculed for trying ?Some dream of large sums of money, but do nothing to actually achieve it. ?Some are just plain lazy. ?Some are afraid of losing their investment. They think this program is designed to beat them out of a few dollars.
:=
:=: The system works if you will just try it. But you must follow the simple instructions exactly, and in less than three months, you will receive $800,000 GUARANTEED! Keep what you are doing to yourself for awhile. Many will tell you it won`t work and will try to talk you out of your dreams. Let them know of your success after it works.
:=
:=: LETTERS FROM PARTICIPANTS IN THIS PROGRAM:
:=
:=: My name is David Rhodes. In 1992 my car was repossessed and bill collectors were housing my. I was laid off and my unemployment ran out. In October of 1992, I received a letter telling me how to earn $800,000 anytime I wanted. Of course, I was skeptical. But because I was so desperate and virtually had nothing to lose, I gave it a try. In January 1993, my family and I went on a 10-day cruise. The next month I bought a brand new Mercedes with cash! I am currently building a home in Virginia and I will never have to work again. This money program really works perfectly every time. I have never failed to receive less than $500,000. This is a legitimate, money-making opportunity. It does not require you to sell anything or to come in contact with people. And , best of all, you only leave the house to mail the letters. If you have always believed that someday you would get the lucky break, then simply follow the instructions and make dreams come true.
:=
:=: Larry McMahon, Norfolk, VA Six months ago, I received this letter and ignored it. Five more came within a period of time and I ignored them also. I was tempted, but I was convinced that they were just a Hoax. After three weeks of deliberating, I decided to give it a try ( not expecting much ). Two weeks went by and nothing happened. The fourth week was unbelievable! I cant say I received $800,000 but I received $400,000. For the first time in years, I am debt free. I am doing this again, only this time starting with 500 post. I strongly recommend that you follow the instructions exactly as outlined in this letter.
:=
:=: INSTRUCTIONS 1. Immediately send $1.00 to each of the six people on the list at the end of this letter. Wrap the dollar bill in a note saying ? Please add me to your mailing list? and include your name and address.
:=: 2. Copy this letter. You do not have to type it 200 times. Simply place your cursor at the top of the page, hold it and drag it all the way down to the end of the letter. Then click on "edit" and select "copy". Now open up a notepad file on your computer and put the cursor at the top of the page in the notepad, click on 'edit' and then select 'paste' it will copy the letter for you onto your computer.
:=: 3. Remove the name next to the #1 on the list and move the rest of the names up one position (#2 becomes #1, #3 becomes #2, etc?..) Then place your name in the #6 position. Then save it, make sure it is saved as a txt. file.
:=: 4. When you have completed the instructions, take this letter and then go to (Google,Yahoo,...) and type in (Making Money Massege board,or post massege,...)and start posting your copy to 200 message boards,or more this is only the minimum, you can post as much as you like...The more copies you send the better the results. Keep a copy of this letter so you can use it a second time. Post it out again in six months, but Post it with the addresses you receive with each dollar. It will work better the second time. NOTE: This service is 100% legal - (Refer to title 18 section 1302 of the U.S. Postal & lottery laws)
:=: How does it work? When you send out 200 Posts, it is estimated that at least 15 people will respond and send you a $1.00. ($15.00) Those 15 will Post 200 Posts each and 225 people send you $1.00 ($225.00) Those 225 people Post 200 Posts each and 3,375 people send you $1.00 ($3,375.00) Those 3,375 post 200 posts each and 759,375 people send you $1.00 ($759,375.00) At this point your name drops off the list, but so far you have received $813,615.00. P.S. When your money begins to come in, give the first 10% to charity with spirit and share a good fortune!
:=
:=
:=: 1. Jonathon Markwood 3308 Birdsong Way
Birmingham, AL 35242
:=: 2. p. Ortner 29 Briarlee Dr. Tonawanda, NY 14150
:=: 3. Heidi Young 7409 StHWY 206 Sidney Center
NY 13839
:=: 4. Josh Larson 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris IL
61054
:=: 5. Dustin Garcia 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris
IL 61054
:=: 6. Harold N. Williams Jr. P.O. Box 740732 San Diego, Ca 92174
:=
:=: This really really works,I tried it once and I'm doing it again, first to be honest I only posted 145 posts and I didn't recive alot only 6,689.00$ in 3 months,at least this means that it realy works ,so this time I'm posting 604 posts and I've got so far in 2 month 15,640.00$ this is realy like a dream come true. So go on and try it trust me you've got nothing to lose....
:=
:=: important tip - Cover money by paper fully by which it can not been seen in light , because postal employees do some cheat some times....ok



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Posted by: Harold Williams
07/20/2005, 18:17:20

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: EASY WAY TO GET RICH


:=Posted By: Harold
:=Date: Wednesday, 16 January 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
:=In Response To: Re: make money and get rich fast and easy (C. Begne)
:=
:=: Author: jay
:=: Subject: Make 800,000$ with only SIX DOLLARS!
:=: Make 800,000 dollars in just a few months!!!
:=: Posted by Reda on Friday, 20 June 2003, at 3:24 a.m.
:=
:=: Dear Friends: Greetings: I am a retired attorney. A few years ago a man came to me with a letter. He asked me to verify the fact that this was legal to do. I told him I would review it and get back to him. When I first read the letter my client brought me, I thought it was some ?off-the-wall? idea to make money. A week and a half later we met in my office to discuss the issue. I told him the letter he originally brought me was not 100% legal. My client then asked me to alter it to make it perfectly legal. I asked him to make one small change in the letter. I was still curious about the letter, so he explained to me how it works. I thought it seemed like a long shot, so I decided against participating. But before my client left, I asked him to keep me updated on his results. About two months later, he called me to tell me he had received over $800,000 in cash. I didn?t believe him, so he asked me to try this idea and find out for myself. I thought about it for a couple of days and decided I really didn?t have anything to lose, so I asked him for a copy of the letters. I followed the instructions exactly, mailed 200 copies, and sure enough, the money started coming in! It arrived slowly at first, but coming. I kept a precise record of the earnings, and in the end, it totaled $978,493! I could hardly believe it. I met with my friend for lunch to find out exactly how it worked. He told me there are quite a few similar letters around, but this one is different because there are six names at the end of the letter, not five like some others. This fact alone results in your name being in far more returns. The other fact was the help I gave him, making sure the whole thing was legal, since no one wants to take the risk of doing something illegal.
:=
:=: By now you are surely curious to know what small changes to make. If you sent a letter like this one out, in order to be completely legal, you must actually sell something in order to receive a dollar in return. So when you send a dollar to each of the names on the list, you must include these words, ?PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST? and include your name and address. This is the key to the program. The item you will receive for the dollar you sent to the six people below is the letter.
:=
:=: At the time I first tried this idea, I was earning a good living as a lawyer. But everyone in the legal profession will tell you there is a lot of stress that comes with the job. I told myself if things worked out, I would retired from my practice and play golf. I decided to try the letter again, but this time I sent 500 copies. Three months later , I had totaled $2,341,178!
:=
:=: Here are a few reasons a person might give for not trying this program: ?Some people think they can never make a lot of money with anything this simple. ?Some are afraid they will be ridiculed for trying ?Some dream of large sums of money, but do nothing to actually achieve it. ?Some are just plain lazy. ?Some are afraid of losing their investment. They think this program is designed to beat them out of a few dollars.
:=
:=: The system works if you will just try it. But you must follow the simple instructions exactly, and in less than three months, you will receive $800,000 GUARANTEED! Keep what you are doing to yourself for awhile. Many will tell you it won`t work and will try to talk you out of your dreams. Let them know of your success after it works.
:=
:=: LETTERS FROM PARTICIPANTS IN THIS PROGRAM:
:=
:=: My name is David Rhodes. In 1992 my car was repossessed and bill collectors were housing my. I was laid off and my unemployment ran out. In October of 1992, I received a letter telling me how to earn $800,000 anytime I wanted. Of course, I was skeptical. But because I was so desperate and virtually had nothing to lose, I gave it a try. In January 1993, my family and I went on a 10-day cruise. The next month I bought a brand new Mercedes with cash! I am currently building a home in Virginia and I will never have to work again. This money program really works perfectly every time. I have never failed to receive less than $500,000. This is a legitimate, money-making opportunity. It does not require you to sell anything or to come in contact with people. And , best of all, you only leave the house to mail the letters. If you have always believed that someday you would get the lucky break, then simply follow the instructions and make dreams come true.
:=
:=: Larry McMahon, Norfolk, VA Six months ago, I received this letter and ignored it. Five more came within a period of time and I ignored them also. I was tempted, but I was convinced that they were just a Hoax. After three weeks of deliberating, I decided to give it a try ( not expecting much ). Two weeks went by and nothing happened. The fourth week was unbelievable! I cant say I received $800,000 but I received $400,000. For the first time in years, I am debt free. I am doing this again, only this time starting with 500 post. I strongly recommend that you follow the instructions exactly as outlined in this letter.
:=
:=: INSTRUCTIONS 1. Immediately send $1.00 to each of the six people on the list at the end of this letter. Wrap the dollar bill in a note saying ? Please add me to your mailing list? and include your name and address.
:=: 2. Copy this letter. You do not have to type it 200 times. Simply place your cursor at the top of the page, hold it and drag it all the way down to the end of the letter. Then click on "edit" and select "copy". Now open up a notepad file on your computer and put the cursor at the top of the page in the notepad, click on 'edit' and then select 'paste' it will copy the letter for you onto your computer.
:=: 3. Remove the name next to the #1 on the list and move the rest of the names up one position (#2 becomes #1, #3 becomes #2, etc?..) Then place your name in the #6 position. Then save it, make sure it is saved as a txt. file.
:=: 4. When you have completed the instructions, take this letter and then go to (Google,Yahoo,...) and type in (Making Money Massege board,or post massege,...)and start posting your copy to 200 message boards,or more this is only the minimum, you can post as much as you like...The more copies you send the better the results. Keep a copy of this letter so you can use it a second time. Post it out again in six months, but Post it with the addresses you receive with each dollar. It will work better the second time. NOTE: This service is 100% legal - (Refer to title 18 section 1302 of the U.S. Postal & lottery laws)
:=: How does it work? When you send out 200 Posts, it is estimated that at least 15 people will respond and send you a $1.00. ($15.00) Those 15 will Post 200 Posts each and 225 people send you $1.00 ($225.00) Those 225 people Post 200 Posts each and 3,375 people send you $1.00 ($3,375.00) Those 3,375 post 200 posts each and 759,375 people send you $1.00 ($759,375.00) At this point your name drops off the list, but so far you have received $813,615.00. P.S. When your money begins to come in, give the first 10% to charity with spirit and share a good fortune!
:=
:=
:=: 1. Jonathon Markwood 3308 Birdsong Way
Birmingham, AL 35242
:=: 2. p. Ortner 29 Briarlee Dr. Tonawanda, NY 14150
:=: 3. Heidi Young 7409 StHWY 206 Sidney Center
NY 13839
:=: 4. Josh Larson 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris IL
61054
:=: 5. Dustin Garcia 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris
IL 61054
:=: 6. Harold N. Williams Jr. P.O. Box 740732 San Diego, Ca 92174
:=
:=: This really really works,I tried it once and I'm doing it again, first to be honest I only posted 145 posts and I didn't recive alot only 6,689.00$ in 3 months,at least this means that it realy works ,so this time I'm posting 604 posts and I've got so far in 2 month 15,640.00$ this is realy like a dream come true. So go on and try it trust me you've got nothing to lose....
:=
:=: important tip - Cover money by paper fully by which it can not been seen in light , because postal employees do some cheat some times....ok



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Friday, July 22, 2005 at 08:39:16 (PDT)
TIM ANDREW WOMACK
RODEOCLOWN64@AOL.COM

HEY ROGER! I CAME ACROSS A LINK THAT WAS NEW TO ME......PERHAPS NOT SO
WITH ALL THE PROFESSIONAL(sic?)RESEARCHERS THAT ARE USING THIS SITE......
WWW.LEGACY.COM TYPE IN THE NAME........WOMACK (AND WATCH WHAT HAPPENS) YOU CAN EVEN PUT YOUR OWN DATES IN THE SPACE AND EVEN,
IF YOU KNOW WHAT CITY THEY LIVED AND DIED IN,THE PROPER NEWS PAPER TO CHECK
THE OBITS.......Y'ALL PROBABLY ALREADY KNEW ALL THIS ANYWAY !!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE ON THIS SITE........TIM A.WOMACK
(KAREN VOLD'S lil'BROTHER)


Friday, July 22, 2005 at 09:00:12 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Roger or Mark
Looks like cleanup time again - the nerve of some people.


Friday, July 22, 2005 at 14:27:23 (PDT)
Joanna Nelson
paukenfrau@hotmail.com

Hi, my grandmother's name was Frances Jane Womack. I don't know much about her except that she was a twin (identical I think--I believe her twin's name was Joyce but I'm not sure), born around 1923 (in Oklahoma I think), married a man by the name of McNabb, lived in Oklahoma City, and died when my mother was about 8, which would have been 1950 or 1951.

I know almost nothing about her, and if anyone has any information about her, that would be great. Thanks.


Friday, July 22, 2005 at 18:32:28 (PDT)
David Womack
dwwomack1959@comcast.net

Joanna,

Quick Search came up with a Jane Wamack (Womack) living with mother Pearl Womack and sister Joyce bothe Jane and Joyce are listed as 6 wich would be 1924. The are listed as living on West Ninth Street in District 102, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma County, Oklahoma.

Wa(o)mack, Pearl Head 42 WD MS PA AL Credit Manager Clothing Store
---------, Joyce Daughter 6 S OK AK MS None
---------, Jane Daughter 6 S OK AK MS None

Hope this helps,

David


Friday, July 22, 2005 at 20:05:30 (PDT)
Harold Williams
williamsharold38@aol.com





Posted by: Harold Williams
07/20/2005, 18:17:20

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: EASY WAY TO GET RICH


:=Posted By: Harold
:=Date: Wednesday, 16 January 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
:=In Response To: Re: make money and get rich fast and easy (C. Begne)
:=
:=: Author: jay
:=: Subject: Make 800,000$ with only SIX DOLLARS!
:=: Make 800,000 dollars in just a few months!!!
:=: Posted by Reda on Friday, 20 June 2003, at 3:24 a.m.
:=
:=: Dear Friends: Greetings: I am a retired attorney. A few years ago a man came to me with a letter. He asked me to verify the fact that this was legal to do. I told him I would review it and get back to him. When I first read the letter my client brought me, I thought it was some ?off-the-wall? idea to make money. A week and a half later we met in my office to discuss the issue. I told him the letter he originally brought me was not 100% legal. My client then asked me to alter it to make it perfectly legal. I asked him to make one small change in the letter. I was still curious about the letter, so he explained to me how it works. I thought it seemed like a long shot, so I decided against participating. But before my client left, I asked him to keep me updated on his results. About two months later, he called me to tell me he had received over $800,000 in cash. I didn?t believe him, so he asked me to try this idea and find out for myself. I thought about it for a couple of days and decided I really didn?t have anything to lose, so I asked him for a copy of the letters. I followed the instructions exactly, mailed 200 copies, and sure enough, the money started coming in! It arrived slowly at first, but coming. I kept a precise record of the earnings, and in the end, it totaled $978,493! I could hardly believe it. I met with my friend for lunch to find out exactly how it worked. He told me there are quite a few similar letters around, but this one is different because there are six names at the end of the letter, not five like some others. This fact alone results in your name being in far more returns. The other fact was the help I gave him, making sure the whole thing was legal, since no one wants to take the risk of doing something illegal.
:=
:=: By now you are surely curious to know what small changes to make. If you sent a letter like this one out, in order to be completely legal, you must actually sell something in order to receive a dollar in return. So when you send a dollar to each of the names on the list, you must include these words, ?PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST? and include your name and address. This is the key to the program. The item you will receive for the dollar you sent to the six people below is the letter.
:=
:=: At the time I first tried this idea, I was earning a good living as a lawyer. But everyone in the legal profession will tell you there is a lot of stress that comes with the job. I told myself if things worked out, I would retired from my practice and play golf. I decided to try the letter again, but this time I sent 500 copies. Three months later , I had totaled $2,341,178!
:=
:=: Here are a few reasons a person might give for not trying this program: ?Some people think they can never make a lot of money with anything this simple. ?Some are afraid they will be ridiculed for trying ?Some dream of large sums of money, but do nothing to actually achieve it. ?Some are just plain lazy. ?Some are afraid of losing their investment. They think this program is designed to beat them out of a few dollars.
:=
:=: The system works if you will just try it. But you must follow the simple instructions exactly, and in less than three months, you will receive $800,000 GUARANTEED! Keep what you are doing to yourself for awhile. Many will tell you it won`t work and will try to talk you out of your dreams. Let them know of your success after it works.
:=
:=: LETTERS FROM PARTICIPANTS IN THIS PROGRAM:
:=
:=: My name is David Rhodes. In 1992 my car was repossessed and bill collectors were housing my. I was laid off and my unemployment ran out. In October of 1992, I received a letter telling me how to earn $800,000 anytime I wanted. Of course, I was skeptical. But because I was so desperate and virtually had nothing to lose, I gave it a try. In January 1993, my family and I went on a 10-day cruise. The next month I bought a brand new Mercedes with cash! I am currently building a home in Virginia and I will never have to work again. This money program really works perfectly every time. I have never failed to receive less than $500,000. This is a legitimate, money-making opportunity. It does not require you to sell anything or to come in contact with people. And , best of all, you only leave the house to mail the letters. If you have always believed that someday you would get the lucky break, then simply follow the instructions and make dreams come true.
:=
:=: Larry McMahon, Norfolk, VA Six months ago, I received this letter and ignored it. Five more came within a period of time and I ignored them also. I was tempted, but I was convinced that they were just a Hoax. After three weeks of deliberating, I decided to give it a try ( not expecting much ). Two weeks went by and nothing happened. The fourth week was unbelievable! I cant say I received $800,000 but I received $400,000. For the first time in years, I am debt free. I am doing this again, only this time starting with 500 post. I strongly recommend that you follow the instructions exactly as outlined in this letter.
:=
:=: INSTRUCTIONS 1. Immediately send $1.00 to each of the six people on the list at the end of this letter. Wrap the dollar bill in a note saying ? Please add me to your mailing list? and include your name and address.
:=: 2. Copy this letter. You do not have to type it 200 times. Simply place your cursor at the top of the page, hold it and drag it all the way down to the end of the letter. Then click on "edit" and select "copy". Now open up a notepad file on your computer and put the cursor at the top of the page in the notepad, click on 'edit' and then select 'paste' it will copy the letter for you onto your computer.
:=: 3. Remove the name next to the #1 on the list and move the rest of the names up one position (#2 becomes #1, #3 becomes #2, etc?..) Then place your name in the #6 position. Then save it, make sure it is saved as a txt. file.
:=: 4. When you have completed the instructions, take this letter and then go to (Google,Yahoo,...) and type in (Making Money Massege board,or post massege,...)and start posting your copy to 200 message boards,or more this is only the minimum, you can post as much as you like...The more copies you send the better the results. Keep a copy of this letter so you can use it a second time. Post it out again in six months, but Post it with the addresses you receive with each dollar. It will work better the second time. NOTE: This service is 100% legal - (Refer to title 18 section 1302 of the U.S. Postal & lottery laws)
:=: How does it work? When you send out 200 Posts, it is estimated that at least 15 people will respond and send you a $1.00. ($15.00) Those 15 will Post 200 Posts each and 225 people send you $1.00 ($225.00) Those 225 people Post 200 Posts each and 3,375 people send you $1.00 ($3,375.00) Those 3,375 post 200 posts each and 759,375 people send you $1.00 ($759,375.00) At this point your name drops off the list, but so far you have received $813,615.00. P.S. When your money begins to come in, give the first 10% to charity with spirit and share a good fortune!
:=
:=
:=: 1. Jonathon Markwood 3308 Birdsong Way
Birmingham, AL 35242
:=: 2. p. Ortner 29 Briarlee Dr. Tonawanda, NY 14150
:=: 3. Heidi Young 7409 StHWY 206 Sidney Center
NY 13839
:=: 4. Josh Larson 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris IL
61054
:=: 5. Dustin Garcia 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris
IL 61054
:=: 6. Harold N. Williams Jr. P.O. Box 740732 San Diego, Ca 92174
:=
:=: This really really works,I tried it once and I'm doing it again, first to be honest I only posted 145 posts and I didn't recive alot only 6,689.00$ in 3 months,at least this means that it realy works ,so this time I'm posting 604 posts and I've got so far in 2 month 15,640.00$ this is realy like a dream come true. So go on and try it trust me you've got nothing to lose....
:=
:=: important tip - Cover money by paper fully by which it can not been seen in light , because postal employees do some cheat some times....ok



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Posted by: Harold Williams
07/20/2005, 18:17:20

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: EASY WAY TO GET RICH


:=Posted By: Harold
:=Date: Wednesday, 16 January 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
:=In Response To: Re: make money and get rich fast and easy (C. Begne)
:=
:=: Author: jay
:=: Subject: Make 800,000$ with only SIX DOLLARS!
:=: Make 800,000 dollars in just a few months!!!
:=: Posted by Reda on Friday, 20 June 2003, at 3:24 a.m.
:=
:=: Dear Friends: Greetings: I am a retired attorney. A few years ago a man came to me with a letter. He asked me to verify the fact that this was legal to do. I told him I would review it and get back to him. When I first read the letter my client brought me, I thought it was some ?off-the-wall? idea to make money. A week and a half later we met in my office to discuss the issue. I told him the letter he originally brought me was not 100% legal. My client then asked me to alter it to make it perfectly legal. I asked him to make one small change in the letter. I was still curious about the letter, so he explained to me how it works. I thought it seemed like a long shot, so I decided against participating. But before my client left, I asked him to keep me updated on his results. About two months later, he called me to tell me he had received over $800,000 in cash. I didn?t believe him, so he asked me to try this idea and find out for myself. I thought about it for a couple of days and decided I really didn?t have anything to lose, so I asked him for a copy of the letters. I followed the instructions exactly, mailed 200 copies, and sure enough, the money started coming in! It arrived slowly at first, but coming. I kept a precise record of the earnings, and in the end, it totaled $978,493! I could hardly believe it. I met with my friend for lunch to find out exactly how it worked. He told me there are quite a few similar letters around, but this one is different because there are six names at the end of the letter, not five like some others. This fact alone results in your name being in far more returns. The other fact was the help I gave him, making sure the whole thing was legal, since no one wants to take the risk of doing something illegal.
:=
:=: By now you are surely curious to know what small changes to make. If you sent a letter like this one out, in order to be completely legal, you must actually sell something in order to receive a dollar in return. So when you send a dollar to each of the names on the list, you must include these words, ?PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST? and include your name and address. This is the key to the program. The item you will receive for the dollar you sent to the six people below is the letter.
:=
:=: At the time I first tried this idea, I was earning a good living as a lawyer. But everyone in the legal profession will tell you there is a lot of stress that comes with the job. I told myself if things worked out, I would retired from my practice and play golf. I decided to try the letter again, but this time I sent 500 copies. Three months later , I had totaled $2,341,178!
:=
:=: Here are a few reasons a person might give for not trying this program: ?Some people think they can never make a lot of money with anything this simple. ?Some are afraid they will be ridiculed for trying ?Some dream of large sums of money, but do nothing to actually achieve it. ?Some are just plain lazy. ?Some are afraid of losing their investment. They think this program is designed to beat them out of a few dollars.
:=
:=: The system works if you will just try it. But you must follow the simple instructions exactly, and in less than three months, you will receive $800,000 GUARANTEED! Keep what you are doing to yourself for awhile. Many will tell you it won`t work and will try to talk you out of your dreams. Let them know of your success after it works.
:=
:=: LETTERS FROM PARTICIPANTS IN THIS PROGRAM:
:=
:=: My name is David Rhodes. In 1992 my car was repossessed and bill collectors were housing my. I was laid off and my unemployment ran out. In October of 1992, I received a letter telling me how to earn $800,000 anytime I wanted. Of course, I was skeptical. But because I was so desperate and virtually had nothing to lose, I gave it a try. In January 1993, my family and I went on a 10-day cruise. The next month I bought a brand new Mercedes with cash! I am currently building a home in Virginia and I will never have to work again. This money program really works perfectly every time. I have never failed to receive less than $500,000. This is a legitimate, money-making opportunity. It does not require you to sell anything or to come in contact with people. And , best of all, you only leave the house to mail the letters. If you have always believed that someday you would get the lucky break, then simply follow the instructions and make dreams come true.
:=
:=: Larry McMahon, Norfolk, VA Six months ago, I received this letter and ignored it. Five more came within a period of time and I ignored them also. I was tempted, but I was convinced that they were just a Hoax. After three weeks of deliberating, I decided to give it a try ( not expecting much ). Two weeks went by and nothing happened. The fourth week was unbelievable! I cant say I received $800,000 but I received $400,000. For the first time in years, I am debt free. I am doing this again, only this time starting with 500 post. I strongly recommend that you follow the instructions exactly as outlined in this letter.
:=
:=: INSTRUCTIONS 1. Immediately send $1.00 to each of the six people on the list at the end of this letter. Wrap the dollar bill in a note saying ? Please add me to your mailing list? and include your name and address.
:=: 2. Copy this letter. You do not have to type it 200 times. Simply place your cursor at the top of the page, hold it and drag it all the way down to the end of the letter. Then click on "edit" and select "copy". Now open up a notepad file on your computer and put the cursor at the top of the page in the notepad, click on 'edit' and then select 'paste' it will copy the letter for you onto your computer.
:=: 3. Remove the name next to the #1 on the list and move the rest of the names up one position (#2 becomes #1, #3 becomes #2, etc?..) Then place your name in the #6 position. Then save it, make sure it is saved as a txt. file.
:=: 4. When you have completed the instructions, take this letter and then go to (Google,Yahoo,...) and type in (Making Money Massege board,or post massege,...)and start posting your copy to 200 message boards,or more this is only the minimum, you can post as much as you like...The more copies you send the better the results. Keep a copy of this letter so you can use it a second time. Post it out again in six months, but Post it with the addresses you receive with each dollar. It will work better the second time. NOTE: This service is 100% legal - (Refer to title 18 section 1302 of the U.S. Postal & lottery laws)
:=: How does it work? When you send out 200 Posts, it is estimated that at least 15 people will respond and send you a $1.00. ($15.00) Those 15 will Post 200 Posts each and 225 people send you $1.00 ($225.00) Those 225 people Post 200 Posts each and 3,375 people send you $1.00 ($3,375.00) Those 3,375 post 200 posts each and 759,375 people send you $1.00 ($759,375.00) At this point your name drops off the list, but so far you have received $813,615.00. P.S. When your money begins to come in, give the first 10% to charity with spirit and share a good fortune!
:=
:=
:=: 1. Jonathon Markwood 3308 Birdsong Way
Birmingham, AL 35242
:=: 2. p. Ortner 29 Briarlee Dr. Tonawanda, NY 14150
:=: 3. Heidi Young 7409 StHWY 206 Sidney Center
NY 13839
:=: 4. Josh Larson 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris IL
61054
:=: 5. Dustin Garcia 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris
IL 61054
:=: 6. Harold N. Williams Jr. P.O. Box 740732 San Diego, Ca 92174
:=
:=: This really really works,I tried it once and I'm doing it again, first to be honest I only posted 145 posts and I didn't recive alot only 6,689.00$ in 3 months,at least this means that it realy works ,so this time I'm posting 604 posts and I've got so far in 2 month 15,640.00$ this is realy like a dream come true. So go on and try it trust me you've got nothing to lose....
:=
:=: important tip - Cover money by paper fully by which it can not been seen in light , because postal employees do some cheat some times....ok



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Posted by: Harold Williams
07/20/2005, 18:17:20

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: EASY WAY TO GET RICH


:=Posted By: Harold
:=Date: Wednesday, 16 January 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
:=In Response To: Re: make money and get rich fast and easy (C. Begne)
:=
:=: Author: jay
:=: Subject: Make 800,000$ with only SIX DOLLARS!
:=: Make 800,000 dollars in just a few months!!!
:=: Posted by Reda on Friday, 20 June 2003, at 3:24 a.m.
:=
:=: Dear Friends: Greetings: I am a retired attorney. A few years ago a man came to me with a letter. He asked me to verify the fact that this was legal to do. I told him I would review it and get back to him. When I first read the letter my client brought me, I thought it was some ?off-the-wall? idea to make money. A week and a half later we met in my office to discuss the issue. I told him the letter he originally brought me was not 100% legal. My client then asked me to alter it to make it perfectly legal. I asked him to make one small change in the letter. I was still curious about the letter, so he explained to me how it works. I thought it seemed like a long shot, so I decided against participating. But before my client left, I asked him to keep me updated on his results. About two months later, he called me to tell me he had received over $800,000 in cash. I didn?t believe him, so he asked me to try this idea and find out for myself. I thought about it for a couple of days and decided I really didn?t have anything to lose, so I asked him for a copy of the letters. I followed the instructions exactly, mailed 200 copies, and sure enough, the money started coming in! It arrived slowly at first, but coming. I kept a precise record of the earnings, and in the end, it totaled $978,493! I could hardly believe it. I met with my friend for lunch to find out exactly how it worked. He told me there are quite a few similar letters around, but this one is different because there are six names at the end of the letter, not five like some others. This fact alone results in your name being in far more returns. The other fact was the help I gave him, making sure the whole thing was legal, since no one wants to take the risk of doing something illegal.
:=
:=: By now you are surely curious to know what small changes to make. If you sent a letter like this one out, in order to be completely legal, you must actually sell something in order to receive a dollar in return. So when you send a dollar to each of the names on the list, you must include these words, ?PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST? and include your name and address. This is the key to the program. The item you will receive for the dollar you sent to the six people below is the letter.
:=
:=: At the time I first tried this idea, I was earning a good living as a lawyer. But everyone in the legal profession will tell you there is a lot of stress that comes with the job. I told myself if things worked out, I would retired from my practice and play golf. I decided to try the letter again, but this time I sent 500 copies. Three months later , I had totaled $2,341,178!
:=
:=: Here are a few reasons a person might give for not trying this program: ?Some people think they can never make a lot of money with anything this simple. ?Some are afraid they will be ridiculed for trying ?Some dream of large sums of money, but do nothing to actually achieve it. ?Some are just plain lazy. ?Some are afraid of losing their investment. They think this program is designed to beat them out of a few dollars.
:=
:=: The system works if you will just try it. But you must follow the simple instructions exactly, and in less than three months, you will receive $800,000 GUARANTEED! Keep what you are doing to yourself for awhile. Many will tell you it won`t work and will try to talk you out of your dreams. Let them know of your success after it works.
:=
:=: LETTERS FROM PARTICIPANTS IN THIS PROGRAM:
:=
:=: My name is David Rhodes. In 1992 my car was repossessed and bill collectors were housing my. I was laid off and my unemployment ran out. In October of 1992, I received a letter telling me how to earn $800,000 anytime I wanted. Of course, I was skeptical. But because I was so desperate and virtually had nothing to lose, I gave it a try. In January 1993, my family and I went on a 10-day cruise. The next month I bought a brand new Mercedes with cash! I am currently building a home in Virginia and I will never have to work again. This money program really works perfectly every time. I have never failed to receive less than $500,000. This is a legitimate, money-making opportunity. It does not require you to sell anything or to come in contact with people. And , best of all, you only leave the house to mail the letters. If you have always believed that someday you would get the lucky break, then simply follow the instructions and make dreams come true.
:=
:=: Larry McMahon, Norfolk, VA Six months ago, I received this letter and ignored it. Five more came within a period of time and I ignored them also. I was tempted, but I was convinced that they were just a Hoax. After three weeks of deliberating, I decided to give it a try ( not expecting much ). Two weeks went by and nothing happened. The fourth week was unbelievable! I cant say I received $800,000 but I received $400,000. For the first time in years, I am debt free. I am doing this again, only this time starting with 500 post. I strongly recommend that you follow the instructions exactly as outlined in this letter.
:=
:=: INSTRUCTIONS 1. Immediately send $1.00 to each of the six people on the list at the end of this letter. Wrap the dollar bill in a note saying ? Please add me to your mailing list? and include your name and address.
:=: 2. Copy this letter. You do not have to type it 200 times. Simply place your cursor at the top of the page, hold it and drag it all the way down to the end of the letter. Then click on "edit" and select "copy". Now open up a notepad file on your computer and put the cursor at the top of the page in the notepad, click on 'edit' and then select 'paste' it will copy the letter for you onto your computer.
:=: 3. Remove the name next to the #1 on the list and move the rest of the names up one position (#2 becomes #1, #3 becomes #2, etc?..) Then place your name in the #6 position. Then save it, make sure it is saved as a txt. file.
:=: 4. When you have completed the instructions, take this letter and then go to (Google,Yahoo,...) and type in (Making Money Massege board,or post massege,...)and start posting your copy to 200 message boards,or more this is only the minimum, you can post as much as you like...The more copies you send the better the results. Keep a copy of this letter so you can use it a second time. Post it out again in six months, but Post it with the addresses you receive with each dollar. It will work better the second time. NOTE: This service is 100% legal - (Refer to title 18 section 1302 of the U.S. Postal & lottery laws)
:=: How does it work? When you send out 200 Posts, it is estimated that at least 15 people will respond and send you a $1.00. ($15.00) Those 15 will Post 200 Posts each and 225 people send you $1.00 ($225.00) Those 225 people Post 200 Posts each and 3,375 people send you $1.00 ($3,375.00) Those 3,375 post 200 posts each and 759,375 people send you $1.00 ($759,375.00) At this point your name drops off the list, but so far you have received $813,615.00. P.S. When your money begins to come in, give the first 10% to charity with spirit and share a good fortune!
:=
:=
:=: 1. Jonathon Markwood 3308 Birdsong Way
Birmingham, AL 35242
:=: 2. p. Ortner 29 Briarlee Dr. Tonawanda, NY 14150
:=: 3. Heidi Young 7409 StHWY 206 Sidney Center
NY 13839
:=: 4. Josh Larson 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris IL
61054
:=: 5. Dustin Garcia 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris
IL 61054
:=: 6. Harold N. Williams Jr. P.O. Box 740732 San Diego, Ca 92174
:=
:=: This really really works,I tried it once and I'm doing it again, first to be honest I only posted 145 posts and I didn't recive alot only 6,689.00$ in 3 months,at least this means that it realy works ,so this time I'm posting 604 posts and I've got so far in 2 month 15,640.00$ this is realy like a dream come true. So go on and try it trust me you've got nothing to lose....
:=
:=: important tip - Cover money by paper fully by which it can not been seen in light , because postal employees do some cheat some times....ok



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Posted by: Harold Williams
07/20/2005, 18:17:20

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: EASY WAY TO GET RICH


:=Posted By: Harold
:=Date: Wednesday, 16 January 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
:=In Response To: Re: make money and get rich fast and easy (C. Begne)
:=
:=: Author: jay
:=: Subject: Make 800,000$ with only SIX DOLLARS!
:=: Make 800,000 dollars in just a few months!!!
:=: Posted by Reda on Friday, 20 June 2003, at 3:24 a.m.
:=
:=: Dear Friends: Greetings: I am a retired attorney. A few years ago a man came to me with a letter. He asked me to verify the fact that this was legal to do. I told him I would review it and get back to him. When I first read the letter my client brought me, I thought it was some ?off-the-wall? idea to make money. A week and a half later we met in my office to discuss the issue. I told him the letter he originally brought me was not 100% legal. My client then asked me to alter it to make it perfectly legal. I asked him to make one small change in the letter. I was still curious about the letter, so he explained to me how it works. I thought it seemed like a long shot, so I decided against participating. But before my client left, I asked him to keep me updated on his results. About two months later, he called me to tell me he had received over $800,000 in cash. I didn?t believe him, so he asked me to try this idea and find out for myself. I thought about it for a couple of days and decided I really didn?t have anything to lose, so I asked him for a copy of the letters. I followed the instructions exactly, mailed 200 copies, and sure enough, the money started coming in! It arrived slowly at first, but coming. I kept a precise record of the earnings, and in the end, it totaled $978,493! I could hardly believe it. I met with my friend for lunch to find out exactly how it worked. He told me there are quite a few similar letters around, but this one is different because there are six names at the end of the letter, not five like some others. This fact alone results in your name being in far more returns. The other fact was the help I gave him, making sure the whole thing was legal, since no one wants to take the risk of doing something illegal.
:=
:=: By now you are surely curious to know what small changes to make. If you sent a letter like this one out, in order to be completely legal, you must actually sell something in order to receive a dollar in return. So when you send a dollar to each of the names on the list, you must include these words, ?PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST? and include your name and address. This is the key to the program. The item you will receive for the dollar you sent to the six people below is the letter.
:=
:=: At the time I first tried this idea, I was earning a good living as a lawyer. But everyone in the legal profession will tell you there is a lot of stress that comes with the job. I told myself if things worked out, I would retired from my practice and play golf. I decided to try the letter again, but this time I sent 500 copies. Three months later , I had totaled $2,341,178!
:=
:=: Here are a few reasons a person might give for not trying this program: ?Some people think they can never make a lot of money with anything this simple. ?Some are afraid they will be ridiculed for trying ?Some dream of large sums of money, but do nothing to actually achieve it. ?Some are just plain lazy. ?Some are afraid of losing their investment. They think this program is designed to beat them out of a few dollars.
:=
:=: The system works if you will just try it. But you must follow the simple instructions exactly, and in less than three months, you will receive $800,000 GUARANTEED! Keep what you are doing to yourself for awhile. Many will tell you it won`t work and will try to talk you out of your dreams. Let them know of your success after it works.
:=
:=: LETTERS FROM PARTICIPANTS IN THIS PROGRAM:
:=
:=: My name is David Rhodes. In 1992 my car was repossessed and bill collectors were housing my. I was laid off and my unemployment ran out. In October of 1992, I received a letter telling me how to earn $800,000 anytime I wanted. Of course, I was skeptical. But because I was so desperate and virtually had nothing to lose, I gave it a try. In January 1993, my family and I went on a 10-day cruise. The next month I bought a brand new Mercedes with cash! I am currently building a home in Virginia and I will never have to work again. This money program really works perfectly every time. I have never failed to receive less than $500,000. This is a legitimate, money-making opportunity. It does not require you to sell anything or to come in contact with people. And , best of all, you only leave the house to mail the letters. If you have always believed that someday you would get the lucky break, then simply follow the instructions and make dreams come true.
:=
:=: Larry McMahon, Norfolk, VA Six months ago, I received this letter and ignored it. Five more came within a period of time and I ignored them also. I was tempted, but I was convinced that they were just a Hoax. After three weeks of deliberating, I decided to give it a try ( not expecting much ). Two weeks went by and nothing happened. The fourth week was unbelievable! I cant say I received $800,000 but I received $400,000. For the first time in years, I am debt free. I am doing this again, only this time starting with 500 post. I strongly recommend that you follow the instructions exactly as outlined in this letter.
:=
:=: INSTRUCTIONS 1. Immediately send $1.00 to each of the six people on the list at the end of this letter. Wrap the dollar bill in a note saying ? Please add me to your mailing list? and include your name and address.
:=: 2. Copy this letter. You do not have to type it 200 times. Simply place your cursor at the top of the page, hold it and drag it all the way down to the end of the letter. Then click on "edit" and select "copy". Now open up a notepad file on your computer and put the cursor at the top of the page in the notepad, click on 'edit' and then select 'paste' it will copy the letter for you onto your computer.
:=: 3. Remove the name next to the #1 on the list and move the rest of the names up one position (#2 becomes #1, #3 becomes #2, etc?..) Then place your name in the #6 position. Then save it, make sure it is saved as a txt. file.
:=: 4. When you have completed the instructions, take this letter and then go to (Google,Yahoo,...) and type in (Making Money Massege board,or post massege,...)and start posting your copy to 200 message boards,or more this is only the minimum, you can post as much as you like...The more copies you send the better the results. Keep a copy of this letter so you can use it a second time. Post it out again in six months, but Post it with the addresses you receive with each dollar. It will work better the second time. NOTE: This service is 100% legal - (Refer to title 18 section 1302 of the U.S. Postal & lottery laws)
:=: How does it work? When you send out 200 Posts, it is estimated that at least 15 people will respond and send you a $1.00. ($15.00) Those 15 will Post 200 Posts each and 225 people send you $1.00 ($225.00) Those 225 people Post 200 Posts each and 3,375 people send you $1.00 ($3,375.00) Those 3,375 post 200 posts each and 759,375 people send you $1.00 ($759,375.00) At this point your name drops off the list, but so far you have received $813,615.00. P.S. When your money begins to come in, give the first 10% to charity with spirit and share a good fortune!
:=
:=
:=: 1. Jonathon Markwood 3308 Birdsong Way
Birmingham, AL 35242
:=: 2. p. Ortner 29 Briarlee Dr. Tonawanda, NY 14150
:=: 3. Heidi Young 7409 StHWY 206 Sidney Center
NY 13839
:=: 4. Josh Larson 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris IL
61054
:=: 5. Dustin Garcia 6 W. Lincoln St. Mount Morris
IL 61054
:=: 6. Harold N. Williams Jr. P.O. Box 740732 San Diego, Ca 92174
:=
:=: This really really works,I tried it once and I'm doing it again, first to be honest I only posted 145 posts and I didn't recive alot only 6,689.00$ in 3 months,at least this means that it realy works ,so this time I'm posting 604 posts and I've got so far in 2 month 15,640.00$ this is realy like a dream come true. So go on and try it trust me you've got nothing to lose....
:=
:=: important tip - Cover money by paper fully by which it can not been seen in light , because postal employees do some cheat some times....ok



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Saturday, July 23, 2005 at 00:24:53 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ATTN Joanna

1920 Census OK,OK Co., 3-Wd Oklahoma City

Womack S D 34 AR AL IA Inspector Produce Comp.
Womack Pearl 31 MS PA AL Accountant Motor Comp.
Womack Sue 9 AR AR MS
Womack B 8 AR AR MS


Sunday, July 24, 2005 at 16:26:49 (PDT)
sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Hey Y'all all out theah!!

Please try these two URLs and let me know what ya think; AND, if you can add to
let me know what ya got and will add to -- thankee muchly...

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dubbie/death/womack-bur-az.html

http://www.samsawadee.net/wonder/womack-birth-az.html


Tuesday, July 26, 2005 at 15:44:37 (PDT)
ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
womackhunter.homestead.com

Sam,

Womack, Guy V Auto Accident

This is Guy son of Kinchen Roger, grandson of Kinchen R, great grandson of Mansel.

It is thought by the family that Guy had picked up a hitchhiker, who whacked him one over the head, causing the accident that led to his death. So, accident/murder.

And that explains where Jake Milledge went - he was still in TX for the WWI draft.

The William born in Powelton GA should be one of mine - that's where Abraham's family lived,
but darned if I know which of the Williams that particular one is.


Tuesday, July 26, 2005 at 23:07:13 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Ann
thanks for looking - at least you are number 4 of 4 that recognize an effort when they see it...


Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:01:19 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Sam, On to the birth records. I believe Cubbe, Cubby and Webb Sherwood are some of the Choctaw Womacks. Possibly that's Cubbie son of George W. who was b. abt 1908, although I thought he was b in CA. Cubby who was the father of Marie b. 1911 would be George W.'s brother I think.

Ann


Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 21:11:53 (PDT)
Sam
sammes

Ann
I can only say what the legal documents say. But, yes, he gotta be that one in OK.


Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 21:18:28 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

And by the way, all you aspiring wannabees of American Indian Descent; dont get yer jeans up tight. They aint no Womack in these yewnited states that is 100% American Indian unless he/she was adopted, or the wife of a Womack... and then even the children are diluted... 100 % Genetical impossibility...if thru the male line...........


Thursday, July 28, 2005 at 19:52:44 (PDT)
Bob Moore
MooRob4@aol.com
n/a

Hello Womack Researchers:
While searching for my wife' ggrandfather today I found two womack men who died
while in captivity at Point Lookout in Maryland while in the Civil War.
No date of death given, but their military units were given.
1. Benjamin T. Womack, Company "C" 53rd Virginia inf. regt.
1860 Census Virginia, Campbell County, Western District Carth Craig P.O.
Census taken 17 July 1860
744/791 James Womack 45 m carpenter / $50 born Virginia
Mildred Womack 34 f "
Benjamin " 17 m laborer "
Sarah " 12 f "
Mary " 8 f "
Malissa " 6 f "
Jerry " 3 m "
James " 2 m "
Charles Dudley 25 m laborer "
2. James Rufus Womack, Co "A" 30th N. C. Inf Regt.
1860 census North Carolina, Chathan County, Middle Division Pittsboro P.O.
173/165 James Womack 54 m Farmer 4050/4825 Born N.C.
Claranday " 51 f "
Arabella " 28 f Domestic "
Wiley W. " 24 m Farm laborer /250 "
Letitia " 18 f Domestic "
James R. " 17 m farm labor "
Romulous M. " 15 m "
George W. " 12 m "
Young Jones 23 m farm laborer /200 "
Perhaps some of you may have this information, but perhaps others may be looking for it. My wife's ggrandfather was a prisoner of war in this same
camp but he survived. His family from Spartanburg District South Carolina
lost six brothers in the Civil War. My wife's ggrandfather and one other brother survived the war. Bob


Friday, July 29, 2005 at 00:16:23 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

If anyone has access to the WW I Draft Registration Cards thru an Ancestry.com membership, please check this out for me. http://www.accessgenealogy.com/


George Warmack b. 14 Dec 1875 White born in Perry Co., AR

I just need to know from the draft card where the above George Warmack was living ca. 1918 when he registered for the draft.


My great grandparents were in Perry Co., AR prior to 1908, had a son George, but he was born 28 Sept 1894.

Thank you,
Beth


Friday, July 29, 2005 at 03:47:27 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Beth

Name: George Warmack
City: Not Stated [yes it was - says Ragsdale]
County: Perry
State: Arkansas
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1875
Race: White
Roll: 1530567
Person to Notify: Grace Davis Warmack
Occupation Farmer


Friday, July 29, 2005 at 04:08:12 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Ann
Regarding the earlier post:

In 1901 was celebrated the marriage of Mr.[A M] Whortan to Miss Agnes Womack, of Texas, a daughter of K. R. and Sallie (Gossett) Womack. Her father is living and makes his home in Crowley, Colorado, but the mother's demise occurred in 1919.[actually according to the info I have her mother died May 10, 1920]


Saturday, July 30, 2005 at 11:34:43 (PDT)
Marie-Claire Webber
les_webbers@hotmail.com

Greetings,

Our place of residence for the past six years has been on Ponce de Leon Court, in Decatur, Ga. The mansion (now converted into 12 appartments) was constructed by Mr. Jesse L. Womack in the 1920's. Mr. Jesse L. Womack, his wife, Clara and son Gilbert are buried in Pleasant Grove Cemetary in Decatur. Jesse L. Womack's sister, Jewel, resided on the street until 1996.

Can anyone help us in finding additional information on this property and this branch of the Womack family? We are grateful for any information you are willing to share.

Many thanks!
Marie-Claire Webber


Saturday, July 30, 2005 at 19:24:22 (PDT)
Raechelle Janzen
shelle007@yahoo.com

Hi,
Well I made it to the Hutchins Cemetery near Jacksboro TX (Jack County) this week and took some photos of some of the grave markers. Unfortunately, I didnt locate my GG Grandfather William Jefferson Womacks grave there. I dont know if it has been stolen or what but I can say I was very disappointed that it wasnt there. There were 4 of us searching it and after we walked over it time and time again we decided it just wasnt there. The cemetery is very run down and the markers are hard to read and some are broken and totally illegible. But at least I did locate William Jefferson's mother Elizabeth Ledbetter's grave which was great because at least she is in my direct line but unfortunately hers was hand made from concrete and is extremely hard to read. I also went to the Poolville TX Cemetery and took a picture of Thomas Jefferson Womacks grave marker.I also went to the Jack Co Court House and found marriage licenses for Thomas Marion Womack and CJ Brisco, and Eliza Jane Womack and RG Boatman. I was unable to locate the marriage licenses for Isom Womack or any of the marriages of William Jefferson Womack.
Oh by the way the directions to the cemetery that I got from Erin were right but owner of the property is now a man named Gail Weldon who lives in Jacksboro.

Below is a list of the markers I have pictures of. Contact me by email if you want me to send you any of the pictures. I also have pictures of the Hutchins Cemetery sign and overall picture of the cemetery along with a picture of an old homestead on the property that might have belonged to the Hutchins family of couse that is just a guess.

Hutchins Cemetery:
Dr. HC Burns
Lucinda Burns (wife of HC)
Our Baby boy Milton & Louis Brisco
Lorene Brisco
Elizabeth Ledbetter
Elizabeth Buckner
Isabelle Charity (Womack) Hutchins
Joseph Edward Brisco
Louis C Hutchins
Nancy Fannie Brisco
Neaty Bell Buckner
William Brisco

Poolville Cemetery
Thomas Jefferson Womack





Saturday, July 30, 2005 at 19:34:17 (PDT)
Kathy
harpy12@hotmail.com

Does anyone have any information on an

Aquilla Womack Carter b: abt. 1788

married in Tenn to

Francis Hogg b: abt. 1781 Newberry Dist, SC

both died Pope Co., IL
I would be greatful for any information.


Saturday, July 30, 2005 at 20:08:10 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn,com

You know I have posted info here for people who have requested it - but nary an acknowledgement whether or not people who were sent that info got it or not.. no more posting, come to me direct and if you dont respond I will black list the hell outta ya - You people ask for info - I have been posting here and sending emails for a long time, most dont know that - but that crap is stopping here as I rarely get an acknowledgement you even got the dang info -- Go back years and that has been my pet peeve -

You want info from me - tell me what you got and I will add to if I have; if I dont will tell you; otherwise dont contact me unless you are willing to let loose with your information.

Sound harsh - yes it may be - But I have been around this WGN for years and other than a few; rarely see sharing of data - I have been castigated, put down , etc for mentioning this; but time y'all got off yer collective arses and turned loose yer info...or you aint Womacks!!


Saturday, July 30, 2005 at 21:29:33 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Sam
You should cool it for a spell, you are making the south end of a north bound donkey out of your self. Go back to the lodge and have a few more and vent your anger on someone there. The WGN message board is no place for berating all of us. You are doing nothing but showing your true colors and running others off the board. There has been a decrease in post from others due to your attitude that you so apply posted. I have a cousin that refuses to post because she does not want to be ridiculed by you.
If you can't take a little constructive criticism then so be it.
Jack


Saturday, July 30, 2005 at 22:58:36 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Just letting everyone know I found this site it has marriages in every state I believe but in various counties and years but here is the site

http://www.idreamof.com/marriage.html


Sunday, July 31, 2005 at 08:46:33 (PDT)
Anne M Davies
amd08202@msn.com
Yahoo

I am searching for Tennessee Womacks in the McMinn County Area with an ONLEY connection. I know Nannie Onley married a Womack Beginning of 1900's. Her Father was Edward Onley( His brothers were Levi and Return Onley) and her Mother, Marlissa Randolph, Nannie had three or more children. Jay, Ray and Maybe Ralph. Marlissa had two sister. Hildeguard and Texanna. They lived in or near Calhoun. Nannie may have had a brother, Felix Onley. I would appreciate any information amd08202@msn.com


Sunday, July 31, 2005 at 20:44:27 (PDT)
Raechelle Janzen
shelle007@yahoo.com

If anyone would like to have pictures of the following headstones of Womack families that I took today at the Marlow City Cemetery in Oklahoma, I would be glad to share those with you. Just email me directly.

Sinea Noah Womack (Price)and son Noah and husband Plese Price (triple stone)

Malverne and Leamon Womack (double stone)

Melvine (Womack) Price and Joseph Price (double stone)

Isom Conrad Womack, Prudie Mary Alice Beebe Womack, Harmon Womack (triple stone)

Clifford Womack

Sue Womack (double stone with living husband Charles Womack)

I am not sure of who Clifford or Sue Womack are but they are buried closely together and may be some how related to my Womack family.

Raechelle Janzen






Monday, August 01, 2005 at 04:58:57 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

WOMAC'S ACADEMY




Womac’s Academy was a one room school. It was built of undressed lumber in the late 1800’s.

It was 30 x 60 and had sliding wooden windows that provided some light. Kerosene lamps were
also used. It was located on the Tom Womac farm approximately one mile north of Eastanallee
Baptist Church. Austin Hanks and Miss Lenis Millard were two of the teachers. It was closed
in the early 1920’s.

Source: History of Claxton and Surrounding Area, by Hazel Crittenden Ball.

Thomas Alexander Womac (see article in McMinn Co. and It’s People # 1256) may have been
the founder of this academy.

Edited by Bill Bigham.

WOMAC SCHOOL - CHAPEL

aka

Pine Knot






This school-chapel was located on State Highway 163, a couple hundred yards above the
(Tom Walker Rd) Co Rd 758… or a half mile west of the 959 (the Pine Knot Road.) intersect.

Joe Taylor Clark (b. 1918) was raised just below and remembers going to Sunday School there
when he was in the "Card Class." He says the school was a little above the old two story
house recently torn down. About where the little yellow house is now and before you get to the
new brick on the side of the hill that Jerry Perry had built.

We are not sure when the structure was built but it merged with Claxton in 1921. A good estimateis between 1840-1860. About the same as Hanks’ Chapel possibly.

It was a one room frame building with a bell on top. It was long before Meadow Fork Baptist
Church which is existing now.

There is no cemetery or much evidence where it stood. The old road used to go higher up the hill.

We are not sure which Womac it was named for, however, a Daniel Womac owned lots of
land in this area, so says Harold Womac a descendent of Alexander Womac. He thinks
Daniel was a brother to Alexander.

The Womac Family is still well populated in the southern end of the county still.

Source: Harold Womac.

Edited by Bill Bigham


Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 09:21:27 (PDT)
MUGU BOY
MUGUMUGU@MUGU.COM
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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 10:05:51 (PDT)
Jack Womack
Jackwomack@grandecom.net

This I think should apply to us one and all.
One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed. ~ Proverbs 11:24

I am reminded of my Fathers teaching that tells me it is better to give than recieve. We can help others and ourselves as well is we would acknowledge with a kind thank you note when someone helps or posts something you need. Sure it's a busy world and we are forgetful at times in the heat of the battle. On the flip side we should respect others feelings and at leaste give credit when credit is due. The only way we are going to eventually pin our heritage down is to work as a group. Who knows a beginning genealogist may be the one to post the clue we need, thus the moral of this is "post away, right , wrong or indifferent" we'll sort it out in the long run.
Jack


Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 12:26:06 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

If you have collateral families who came to the US from 1830 to 1913, you might want to check out this free web page:

http://www.castlegarden.org/


Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 12:33:48 (PDT)
Randall W. Connell
RWC5C@aol.com

Sam has indicated several times he is going to quit participating on this site. Fortunately he always comes back and with the valuable knowledge he has I am glad he does. Therefore folks all across the fruited plain, I propose a compromise. Let there be a kinder, gentle Sam, and in return let us thank him and everyone else who find information that we need. What would our forefathers think of us now?


Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:05:15 (PDT)
k. womack jenness
bajira@yahoo.com

Hello,
I am searching for the relatives of my grandfather, his name was Lester lee Womack sr. His father was Albert lee womack and mothers madden name was Marie Martin. They would be from either Tx, ok, or ark. Any information would help. Thanks


Thursday, August 04, 2005 at 11:50:48 (PDT)
Jodie L. Lamb
JodieLLamb@Hotmail.com

I am interested in the murder of Nannie Womack, an 8 yr. old girl in Russell County KY. the year was 1908 Dec 8. If you have any information I would greatly appreciate it. I also have some family history dating back to the 1600's. Nannie is buried in the Womack Family Cemetery in Russell Springs at Webb's Cross Roads but I'm not sure which one is her grave. I live with her nephew and we would like to buy her a headstone. If anyone knows any of theis information it would be greatly appreciated...Thank You, Jodie Lamb


Thursday, August 04, 2005 at 20:36:40 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Jodie,

I am not related to this Womack line, and I don't have any answers to your questions, only sugestions.

Go to the library where the local newspaper is archived and find the issues for December 8, 1908 and days following. The newspaper should give you information of the circumstances of her death.

If you have a local funeral home which has been in business for eons, they could possible have data on her burial plot. Sometimes future owners of the funeral homes are given the records of the former owner. The Womack Cemetery might not be large enough for a sextant, but SOMEONE has been keeping records. A lot of cemeteries set aside an annual day for cleaning, visiting and sharing good food and stories of the family. This cemetery might do this.

Nannie's brother, Lucian lived until 1963 according to researchers on Rootsweb's World Connect. Perhaps he has a stone.

Finally, Russell County Deputy Jailer, who made the news recently, Randy Womack, could possible direct you to the law inforcement agency who investigated Nannie's death, i.e. local, county or state.

BTW, Jodie, according to the researchers, Nannie's birth date is 7 Apr 1898. I verified this information on the 1900 census.

If you do decide to put a stone in the cemetery for Nannie, the Womack genealogists fifty years from now will thank you!


Friday, August 05, 2005 at 02:30:26 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

MUGU BOY
You think you have posted the juvenile sounding post on the message board with a false e-mail address that can't be traced. Now hear this your incoming post has your REAL address and a post can be traced to your ISP and a complaint lodged against you that may cause your ISP to discontinue your internet service. What you are doing is illegal and can be reported to the proper authorites. I suspect that you are a juvenile or possibly an adult with a juvenile mentality, either way you should go to this URL and read.
http://www.spamlaws.com/ also http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp, the FBI reporting site or http://www.fraud.org/. Your post has been reported to http://www.spamabuse.org/ . This is not the first post of this nature you have placed on this site.
I highly recommend you refrain from any future post on this site.


Saturday, August 06, 2005 at 00:06:07 (PDT)
Dale
wdaleduck@msn.com

looking for more info on Ella Womack, born about 1877, Benton Ar. Father: Samual Martin Womack, Mother: Lavina or Vinie Anderson. Ella is probably My great Grandmother and I Know nothing of her line. She married my great-grandfather Thomas Blankenship in Benton county Arkansas. Any help appreciated. Contact me at wdaleduck@msn.com

thank you and God Bless


Saturday, August 06, 2005 at 10:28:44 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Hi Dale,

Your Womack family is on line at Rootsweb's World Connect http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi Mary Ella was the daughter of Samuel Martin Womack, son of Richard Womack and Matilda Moxley. Researcher Annette Womack has the line up to Mary Ella's generation.

Beth


Saturday, August 06, 2005 at 15:14:07 (PDT)
Bill Brown (William L.)
newsguybb@sbcglobal.net


My proven GG Grandfather was Alexander WOMACK (about 1837-after 1870)
Full name may have been Alexander William or William Alexander.
He is on the 1870 census of Drew County, Arkansas as Alexander WOMACK...age 33, with wife, Mary..age 17, and one daughter, Willie M....age 1. Two years later, they had a 2nd daughter, Manie Leona. On that census, he says he was born in Illinois.
On the list of marriages in Drew County 1861-1869 (no specific years given) my proven GG Grandmother, Mary E. STUCKEY is shown marrying "William WOMACK", undoubtedly the same man.
In 1876, Mary, listed as a widow, remarries a man named William Porter DICKSON, born in Tennessee...so it seems obvious Alexander (or William) died between 1870 and 1876.
I'd like the name of Alexander's father and mother, and the line connecting the family back to the earlier WOMACKS. Sorry, I don't have a county in Illinois. Thanks a lot. Bill Brown Richardson, Texas


Sunday, August 07, 2005 at 07:36:29 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ATTENTION SAM BETH JACK AND OTHERS I HAVE A STORY POSSIBLY THAT CAN REDEFINE HISTORY AS WE KNOW IT MY GREAT UNCLE WOMACKS IN DUNCAN,OK TOLD ME OVER THE WEEKEND THAT MY GREAT GRANDMA SAID BILLY THE KIDD IN THE HISTORY BOOKS WAS NOT THE REAL BILLY THE KIDD BUT A MAN BACK AT THE SAME TIME PERIOD STOLE THE REAL BILLY THE KIDD'S NAME TO MAKE A NAME FOR HIMSELF. TO GET THIS PROVEN I HAVE SENT A TO HISTORY DETECTIVES AT PBS.ORG WILL YALL HELP ME TO TRY AND PROVE THIS. SUBMIT A MISTERY AT PBS.ORG HISTORY DETECTIVES. ALSO THE REAL BILLY THE KIDD WAS POSSIBLY RELATED TO THE WOMACKS OF TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA. AND MY GREAT UNCLES SAID GREAT GRANDMA KNEW THE REAL BILLY THE KIDD AND SHE WAS SAID TO HAVE SAID HE WAS A GOOD MAN. PLZ HELP


Sunday, August 07, 2005 at 14:52:04 (PDT)
Darrel & Judy Womack
jwma@comcast.net

Derrell

Billy the Kid, was born illegitimate in New York city, Nov. 20 1859 to Catherine McCarty an Irish immigrant. He was call Henry. His mother later married a William E Antrim, Henry used the last name of Antrim, till about 1877 in New Mexico Henry stated calling himself William Bonney.

I have done a lot of research on the McCarty family name, I looked into Henry McCarty/Antrim or William Bonney as he was called.

Not to long ago they were doing some DNA research on Billy the Kid, for some of his possible descendants, his life was fun to look into.

Sorry Derrell, Billy the Kid was White. If you need more information let me know.


Sunday, August 07, 2005 at 20:42:01 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

CAN SOME1 PLZ READ MY POST AND TELL ME WHERE IN THE HELL I PUT BILLY THE KIDD WAS NOT WHITE HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM READ CAREFULLY THANK YOU


Monday, August 08, 2005 at 10:17:07 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

If I missed anyone I have scanned Isom Conrad Womack's Funeral card announcement thing I don't know what they call them exactly but it's what you get at a funeral for a keep sake type deal. So if anyone needs it that I haven't sent it to plz let me know.


Monday, August 08, 2005 at 17:05:11 (PDT)
James Ambrose Womack
jwomack1@mchsi.com

I was told that my grandfather (Pearl Womack) and his brothers, John and Charlie, come from Kansas to Iowa. Pearl married Olive Wilden in about 1900 in Iowa. Pearls fathers name was James. I don't know James' wifes name. I have not been able to find any reference to these people in any Kansas records. There is a Pearl listed but is a female. We do have relatives that are Webbs and Mitchels. i have found both these surnames in various places connected to the the Womacks. Pearl and Olive had 11 children;Jim (my dad) Don,Homer,George,Opal,Erma,Hazel,Gladys,Lillian,Joyce,and Edna. My dad was the last to pass away in 2004. He was just shy by a few weeks of his 90th birthday. I would appreciate any information.


Wednesday, August 10, 2005 at 21:44:24 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

OK going to post something--say what you will; but do not do it here on WGN. E mail me with your comments --

That last post by James Ambrose - I spent almost 6 hours searching thru paid subscription services I have, and traced his bunch back to ole Abe of abt 1644 - sent him three emails with the information I found for him to assimilate and check out further - that was two days ago - think I could get a damn thank you?? Hell no I didn’t..

I do a lot of that stuff behind the scenes that people here know nothing about -- but I am beginning to see it is becoming wasted effort and that is my biggest gripe - why should I bust me arse for nothing - I don’t even get a feeling of accomplishment from trying to help others any more! It is more desperation trying to open someones eyes that cant see..

That was the basis of that last post were Jack came back and called me a horses ass...in a round about way that is..Most Womacks are not a giving bunch - they are mostly take -- bar none... If I really scare people, they should come to me direct not thru someone else - I dont care what someones cousin wont do because of what I might say - let them speak for themselves -- I do not go for wimps that cannot speak for themselves, male or female -- perhaps that is what makes me different from other Womacks -- I help, tell me I have and respond with information to help me and others -- Someone helps you, other than me, don’t remain silent .. silence appears a typical Womack excuse - a cop out for ones own incompetence in dealing with reality....A hey I got what I want now, the heck with you attitude...I can tell you that over 90% of the Womacks out there fit this category --

I see some people like Derrell posting away - duplication, sometimes - but what the heck at least he is getting stuff out there!
He dang sure aint afraid to do it -- even if sometimes people misinterpret what he posts -- GO DERRELL!!!!

I have been accused of a lot of things. High maintenance, etc..BUT, the main thing I was trying to get acoss was post, post, post no matter how small and at least acknowledge those who respond to you - Let them know their efforts in your behalf were appreciated and not wasted. It does not take that much intelligence to do that. And, puhleeeze, don’t insult mine by trying to tell me I am looking at it the wrong way -- take a closer look at it --

I have people coming to me from other countries about Womacks in their countries - even when I have never been there --
And, you know, for some, I have traced their lineage back to William Wamuke in the latter 1400's; or at least provided clues to help - thru them I may find who really was our elusive ancestor...and how the heck he got here,,,the info I have was provided by people that are not hush-hush, not closed mouthed, don’t whisper "toilet paper." Oh yes, they are Womacks or Womack descendants...

I am working on getting some in England, even Australia, to take DNA tests -- don’t know if it will go thru, but at least an attempt was made -- I may ask at this point, "What are you doing to further Womack research?"
(By the way, I am not drinking nor drunk as it appears is popular belief)


Thursday, August 11, 2005 at 01:53:37 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Thx Sam by the way don't know if someone has posted this or if ya already have this but here is what I found at the library today just piddling around in books.

Written just the way it was in book

Lawrence Co., AR Loose Probate Papers 1815-1890

Womack, Jesse (Wammack)
d.c. 1827
Adm'r: 26 Feb 1827, John Womack appt'd
Heirs (25 Feb 1827): William Womack of Crawford Co., Ar Territory; and the following of Lawrence Co., towit: Nancy Hix, the heirs of Betsey Cochran, Polly Gray, Pleasant Womack, Setsey (or Lotsey) Womack, Phebe Womack, Jinny Womack, and Nicy Womack. On 30 March 1833, Alvis Nolen signed a receipt as an heir, as did John L. Cochran that same day.

Stinnet, Benjamin and Jope (Should be Jesse) (minors) Gdn: 26 June 1827, John Womack appt'd for these under age 14 heirs of Benjamin Stinnet, dec'd

The last one about Benjamin Stinnet says what seems to me to be that John Womack became gardian of Benjamin Stinnet's children that were under the age of 14 as stated above.


Thursday, August 11, 2005 at 04:08:06 (PDT)
Shanna Womack - Leatherwood
dragonbloodus@yahoo.com

Okay I am going to be getting a rough start here. We did have the incomplete family tree with help from Sam. Well that was almost four years ago and since then my dad chunked the thing. Way to go dad. Anyway yeah I am kinda needing a little help here.

My grandfather Paul Kagey Womack came from Danville Illinois. His dad was also Paul Womack. Thats as far as I have gotten with the family. They have all clamed up. Can I get a little asst. if any. It would be greatly appreciated.

Shanna


Friday, August 12, 2005 at 16:36:11 (PDT)
Shanna
dragonbloodus@yahoo.com

Thankyou to both Sam and Derrell! Sam especially considering he has most of the work that my mum did! Now to start back off where mom left off!


Saturday, August 13, 2005 at 22:21:12 (PDT)
Linda Ekstrum
ekstrum@hotmail.com

I offer the following information to those researching the Womack family. While I am a Womack (mailden name), I know very little about family research and very little about my family. Perhaps my information can be of help to someone. And I would welcome any information any might have about my kin.

My grandparents Rudy and Nettie Womack lived in Farmington, Mo. (dates unknown-late 1800's)

Nettie's parents are: James Winfield Forshee and Mary Jane Forshee

Rudy and Nettie Womack's children: Ruth, Nola, Nannie, Clifford, Lee and Claud
(I don't know the order)

The family moved to Picher, Oklahoma (probably to mine the Zinc/Lead when Picher was a mining boom town). My father left Picher around 1924.

My father married my Mom (Althea Kimbrough) in 1940 and I was born in 1944 in Arizona.

My Father passed away April 30, 1976.

I'm curious about Rudy (Rudolphe) Womack and Nettie Forshee. Would anyone have any information? I have pictures of all these folks and would be happy to share them. Linda


Monday, August 15, 2005 at 21:17:47 (PDT)
hdwomack
hdwoack@cox.net

im looking for womack how live in wichita,ks . howare decendants of isham rice womack .


Tuesday, August 16, 2005 at 15:20:25 (PDT)
Connie Baumann
Littletn@aol.com

For Anne Davies:

Womac, Schuyler, age 78, formerly of Calhoun, Tenn., resident of Chattanooga for the past tow years, who had made his home with his son, M.Ray Womac, 616 Derby St., died late Monday evening in a Cleveland hospital after several months' illness.
Survivors include three sons, Ray, Jay T. Womac, both of Chattanooga; Ralph E. Womac, Silver Springs, Md; four grandchildren, Mrs. Paul Greene, Rogersville, Tenn., Mrs. H.E. Stoner, Springfield, Mo., Mrs. R.A. Wheeler and Theo Womac both of Chattanooga; 12 great-grandchildren; one brother, Bob Womac, Cleveland, Tenn.
Funeral services will be held Wednesday at 3 p.m. Calhoun Baptist Church, the Rev. W.H. Liner officiating. Interment in Womac Cemetery. The body is at the home of a nephew, Glenn Womac, Calhoun. Quisenberry Funeral Home.
Chattanooga Times
Feb. 26, 1958


Wednesday, August 17, 2005 at 06:28:29 (PDT)
Anne Davies
amd08292

This message is a thank you to Connie Baumann for the information about Schuyler Womac. It is much appreciated.


Wednesday, August 17, 2005 at 15:04:36 (PDT)
bill womack
bmw@brazosnet.com

For Sam:
Sam, can't remember if I thanked you when you responded to a posting of mine several months back. I think I did. Boy I hope I did. If not. Thanks now because I do appreciate any help I can get from anybody anytime. I'd sure to be categorized in that high percentge of "other Womacks." What you're doing and have done is a great service. Thanks and try to keep on keeping on even for those who don't appreciate. Maybe someday.
Bill


Wednesday, August 17, 2005 at 22:19:02 (PDT)
Michael Andrew Grissom
OklahomaRebel@hotmail.com
www.michaelandrewgrissom.com

I am looking for a Leroy Womack, born in November, 1848, in Mississippi. He married Josephine, who was born in Illinois in 1851. They were in Arkansas from by 1878, and were still there as late as 1893. Their children were Thomas J., Virgil D., William P., Lee B., and Gertrude D. I am wanting to know if Leroy M. Womack was a Confederate soldier, and if so, what unit her served with. He is in the Garvin County, I.T. census, but cannot find him in Garvin County, Oklahoma in 1910 or afterwards.

Michael Andrew Grissom


Wednesday, August 17, 2005 at 23:19:35 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

This is only a guess but could this be your Leroy M Womack he would have only been 15 or 16 yrs old giving the year they mustered and stuff which was 1863

Womack, M.L.
Confederate
Cavalry
12th Regiment, Mississippi Cavalry

CONFEDERATE MISSISSIPPI TROOPS
12th Regiment, Mississippi Cavalry

12th Cavalry Regiment [also called 16th Confederate Cavalry] was organized during the summer of 1863. Many of the officers and men were members of the Mississippi state forces and some were from Louisiana. The unit was assigned to Richardson's, Ferguson's, and C.G. Armistead's Brigade, and fought in various conflicts in Mississippi and Alabama. Many were captured at Selma, but the unit was included in the surrender of the Department of Alabama, Mississippi, and East Louisiana. The field officers were Colonel C.G. Armistead, Lieutenant Colonel Philip B. Spence, and Major William Yerger, Jr.


Thursday, August 18, 2005 at 05:37:00 (PDT)
Anne M Davies
amd08202@msn.com

I would also like to thank Sam. I have already done so at his owm email address. The info he gave me, as just what I was looking for. May I ask what is considered the proper spelling? Womack or Womac?


Thursday, August 18, 2005 at 12:00:42 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Michael,

I've tried several times to identify the parents of your Mansel Leroy Womack, who married Josephine Buffington 21 June 1874 in Benton Co., AR. I've followed Mansel Leroy's census records from 1880 Logan Co., AR to Garvin Co., OK, looking for clues. In later Garvin Co. census records, he's listed as Mansel. I've seen another date for Mansel Leroy's birth: 12 Nov 1851 MS.

Josephine Buffington was the dau. of Washington Buffington and Mariah R. Hughes. The Buffingtons are on the 1870 Marion Twp., Jasper Co., MO census. In 1880 they are on the Cauthron Twp., Logan Co., AR census. In 1910 Washington and Mariah are still in Sugar Creek Twp., Logan Co., AR.

Mansel Leroy is easily confused in earlier census records with Mansel Lewis Womack, b. 1847 MS, son of Jesse Womack and Jane Lewis.

Based on your email addy, I wondered if you are the author? How are you related to these Womacks?

Beth


Thursday, August 18, 2005 at 14:51:10 (PDT)
Jim Womack
jimlcnm@comcast.net

Hi Dale,
Regarding your post on 8/6/05, I also have some information on Ella Womack, daughter of Samuel and Vinny. I have been to the grave site of her mother and father.
Samuel's father was my GG Grandfather.
Jim Womack


Thursday, August 18, 2005 at 23:16:55 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

found this for sale on ebay

Womack Family Heritage Book by Beatrice Bayley $14.99

Published in 1981 by Beatrice Bayley, Inc. Most of the book is normal "how to search for your ancestors" type information, but about a third of the book contains names and addresses of Womacks in every state in the US (no phone numbers).

Contents

Introduction
Why Search For You Ancestors
History of Ethnic Origins
The Meaning and Origins of Heraldry
Origin of Names
Prefixes and Suffixes
Common Names and Their Meanings
Common Names and Their Translations
Talking Genealogy
A Genealogical Chart of Areas
Managing Your Search
Breakdown of Family Names by State
Reference Directory of Family Names
Beginning Your Personal Search
The Other Side of The Ocean
The Personal History Sheet
Individual Heritage Chart
Forward Lineage Chart
Some Words of Others and a Final Word From Us
Genealogical & Historical Societies
Some Suggested Reference Books You Might Want to Read


Friday, August 19, 2005 at 20:30:13 (PDT)
kal womack
bajira@yahoo.com

Does any one have more info on Josiah C.C Womack (joe cysis). born 1829 jackson co, CA. and died May 12, 1890 driggs, logan co, AR. I have info of his kids but want his parents and so forth. Thanks so much


Friday, August 19, 2005 at 23:00:15 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Kalia,

Where did the (joe cysis) come from? I know Josiah C. C. and his 1st wife, Mary Ann Frost were in Mississippi ca. 1854 because his dau., Martha was born there.

Here are the web pages I used for the Josiah and family's census records I sent you:

Sam Womack's web page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dubbie/census/index.html

Robert Burke's web page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~reburke/lines/data/womack/ew/index.html

On Robert Burke's web page, scroll down to his comments on Josiah Womack, wife Comfort. Robert indicated to me that he thought Josiah C. C. was a grandson of Josiah and Comfort.

LDS's 1880 census ( also on Sam Womack's web page)
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~reburke/lines/data/womack/ew/index.html

Good luck!


Monday, August 22, 2005 at 16:59:37 (PDT)
will russell
will@knuckledown.us
willrussellgalleries.com

What a wonderful site! I'm a descendant of Elizabeth Womack, b. 1843, d. 1919 in Brownwood, TX. I don't have any information on my Womack lineage before her. I've been told she was whole or part Indian from Texas, either Comanche or "Early Settler" Cherokee. Thanks in advance for any and all help. Please email me directly. Best regards, Will


Monday, August 22, 2005 at 18:24:55 (PDT)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

Hi all,
I'm planning a trip to Halifax, North Carolina and wanted help on where to and not to look for Carter Womack. I was hoping to locate a grave or records of his marriage. I know some of you have already been looking around so I thought I would ask.
If anybody has any leads I could follow - I'll gladly share what I find when I get back.

Trip is planned for mid to late September.


Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 00:33:58 (PDT)
Pamela Jean Womack Baratti
pamb102@aol.com

Looking for information of the families of Homer E. Womack & Evelin Commander m. 24 May 1900, Franklin, Arkansas


Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 07:19:22 (PDT)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

Pam,
I have them as a newly wed couple in Franklin county census (Wittich Township) from 1900 Date 6/4/1900

29/30 - Womack, Homer Head 7/1872 (27) 0 - - AR, AL, AL
, Evaline wife 6/1877 (22) 0 0 0 AR, AR, AR
, John Father 3/1831 (69) 35 - - AL, NC, NC
, Martha Mother 1/1836 (63) 35 6 2 AL, AL, AL

so the column headers above are name, relation, birthdate, age, num years mairried, num children, num still living, birthplace, fathers birthplace, mothers birthplace.

I think John and Martha above arae J.F. and Mattie Womack on the 1880 Logan county census (any idea if Homer was called "Bird")
and they are in Jefferson County in the 1870 census.

Hope this helps - I sent this to you at your email as well.


Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 09:03:23 (PDT)
sam
samsawadee@msn.com

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Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 09:10:17 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Sorry about those two posts they were not harassment.I was testing a modified
version of WGN and forgot to take some stuff out - again my apologies to all.
Sam


Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 09:14:56 (PDT)
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xxx.@xxx.com

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Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 10:01:35 (PDT)
sam
samsawadee@msn.com

I forgot I cannot test off line cause i am never off line as I have DSL -- sorry again - wet noodle time
I'll move to a computer not connected to the net --


Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 14:40:47 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Pam and Royce,

Sorry for any typos -- guess I wore out or blew up my keyboard! Some data below was entered using my on-screen keyboard --if you want to se a baldheaded female, just come to AR --I've about pulled my hair out this AM! Guess I'll make a trip to pick another one!

This is the info for J. H. Womack in my "Arkansas Womacks" WORKING file (sorry, but some lineages are repeated in notes --and I welcome corrections!):

JOHN FRANKLIN WOMACK, b. ca. 1830 AL, son of ? Womack
married Martha Frances Womack, b, 8 Jan 1837 AL, dau. Of Asa Marion/Martin Womack and Sarah “Sallie” Patton

Notes:
Asa Marion/Martin Womack, son of William and Lucy Womack
Sarah Patton, dau. of John Patton & Elizabeth Bean
Elizabeth Bean, dau. of Robert Bean and Martha Womack
Martha Womack, dau. of Maj. Jacob Womack
Elizabeth Bean Patton’s sister, Martha Bean m. Levi Berry Womack brother to
Asa Marion Womack, Isham Rice Womack and Josiah Womack (m. Comfort)

Note: Elizabeth Jane Womack, dau. Of Asa & Sarah Patton Womack, m. Willie Davis Johnson. She might have died in Pine Bluff, Jefferson Co., AR.

Note: Jesse Marion Womack, son of Asa & Sarah Patton Womack, d. Union Prison, Alton, IL

1860 Oakland Twp., Yalobusha Co., MS
A. M. (Asa Marion/Martin) Womack, age 54, b. NC
Sallie Womack, age 50, b. TN (Sarah Patton)
Martha Womack, age 23, b. AL
Mary E. Womack, age, 21, b. AL (Mary Emeline m. Levi Berry Womack, son of Jesse Womack, son of Wm. & Lucy,) d. 1893
William Womack, age 18, b. AL
James Womack, age 16, b. MS (James K. Polk Womack d. 29 Aug 1964 Gettysburg Battlefield, Gettysburg, PA)
Riley Womack, age 14, b. MS (Riley Patton Womack d. 29 Aug 1864 GA/Gettysburg?)
Simpson Womack, age 11, b. MS (Simpson Parks Womack, b. 19 Mar 1849, d. Oct 1872)
Sallie Womack, age 9, b. MS (Sarah Ann Womack, d. Sep 1925)

1860 Oakland Twp., Yalobusha Co., MS
John A.. (Alexander) Womack, age 25, b. TN, (son of Asa Marion and Sarah Patton Womack) d. 15 Jul 1927
Mary A. (Alice) Womack, age 1, b. MS
Sarah E. Long, age 9, b. MS

1860 Oakland Twp., Yalobusha Co., MS
J. Womack, age 30, b. AL Slave Mgr. (I think this is John Franklin Womack)
(in household of William A. Craws --)

1870 Vaugine Twp., Jefferson Co., AR (Pine Bluff)
J. F. Womack, age 40 (b. 1830) AL (John Franklin Womack)
Mattie, age 32 (b. 1838) AL (Martha Frances Womack, dau. of Asa M. Womack)
Maggie, age 5 mos (b. 1870) AR
Notes for John Franklin Womack and Martha Frances Womack:
Married 7 Sep 1865 (probably Yalobusha Co., MS)

Two households up
Dr. Abner (L J.) Womack, age 50 b. TN (son of Isham Rice Womack, brother of Asa Marion Womack)
Elizabeth Womack, age 51 b. NC (Elizabeth Corn)

Notes: I've only found 3 daus. for them

Abner L. J. Womack, son of Isham Rice Womack, brother of Asa Marion Womack; hence, Abner L. J. Womack and Martha Frances Womack Womack were 1st cousins

1880 Mountain Twp., Logan Co., AR (Wamack)
J. F. Womack, age 49 (b. 1831) MS blank blank (John Franklin Womack)
Mattie, age 40 (b. 1840) MS blank blank
Maggie, age 10 (b. 1870) MS (m. Franklin Joseph Stauss)
Bud, age 9, (b. 1871) AR (Homer)
Mollie, age 5, (b. 1875) AR
Sallie, age 4, (b. 1876) AR

1900 Indian Territory, Creek Co., Creek Nation
Frank J. Stauss, age 35 (b. May 1865) IA
Maggie M., age 30, (b. Mar 1870) AR AL MS d. Oct 1945 Eufaula, McIntosh Co., OK
Manorah F, age 12 (b. Aug 1887) AR
John B., age 10 (b. 1880) AR
Byrd S., age 8 (b. Oct 1892) AR
Dollie M., age 6 (b. Nov 1893) AR
Annie B, age 2 (b. Apr 1898) AR

STAUSS, Frank Age: 21 years Marriage
Wife: Maggie M. WOMACK Age: 17 years Marriage
Date: 1 Sep 1886
Recorded in: Logan, Arkansas Source: FHL Number 1027136 Dates: 1877-1885

1900 Wittich Twp., Franklin Co., AR m. 1900
Homer Womack, age 28 (b. 1872 AR) no children (Bud on 1870)
*Evaline Womack, age 22 (b. 1877 AR)
John F. Womack, age 69 (b. 1831) AL NC NC father (John Franklin Womack)
Martha F Womack , age 63 (b. 1836) AL AL AL mother (Martha Frances Womack)
Note: Martha has has 6 children; only 2 living--Homer & Maggie Stauss
*this name is mostly known as Evelyn in this era

1910 Lafayette Twp., Scott Co., AR
H. E. (Homer/Bud) Womack, age 38 b. AR
M. E., age 32
Clarence, b. AR, age 2
J. S. (sic), age 78 (should be J. F.) (father)
M. F., age 72 (mother)
NOTE: Eveline MNU Womack has has 3 children; only 1 living

1920 Lafayette Twp., Scott Co., AR
Homer Womack, age 47, b. AR
Eveline, age 41, b. AR
Clarence,age 11, b. AR
Earnest, age 8-1/2, b. AR
Otto, age 5-1/2, b. AR

1930 Lafayette Twp., Scott Co., AR
Clarence Womack, age 21
Effie, age 32, wife
Yvonna, age 2, dau.

1930 Lafayette Twp., Scott Co., AR
Ernest Wamack, age 18
Johnie, age 18 wife
Raymond, age 5 listed as dau. ???

1930 Lafayette Twp., Scott Co., AR
Evelyn Womack, age 52
Otto Womack, age 15 son

Back to John Franklin Womack and his wife, Martha Frances Womack, d. of Asa M. Womack, on the 1800 census, birth place of their parents is blank. On the 1900, John's is shown as AL NC NC; Martha's is also AL NC NC.

If they are cousins, does anyone have any suggestions for John's father? Here are some choices: Josiah (m. Comfort), Thomas, Abner Clements (m. Isabella Blackburn Patton), William "Buck" (m. Sarah McBee), Levi Berry (m. Martha Bean), Jesse (m. Sabra & unknown Perkins), excluding Burton (d. abt. age 10).

Here's another idea: He could be a brother of the mysterious Josiah C. C. Womack, b, ca. 1829 Jackson Co., Al (place of birth found on CW record), who first appears in Ar on the 1860 Logan Co. AR census. Josiah was probably a son or grandson of Josiah & Comfort LNU Womack.

Any thoughts on John Franklin Womack's parents?


Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 14:50:47 (PDT)
Steve
swesto@aol.com

Hello,
I'm looking for a Lloyd Womack born in 1935 or so, he would of lived in Washington DC around the time of WWII. He was my fathers childhood friend and we were wondering what happened to him.

Steve.


Sunday, August 28, 2005 at 05:39:03 (PDT)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

Beth, you did better detective work than I - even with a busted keyboard.
I think you are right that JCC and John Franklin are brothers. I saw the pattern too. You'll notice that Pam has given us the maiden name for Evalyn in her message below and their place of marriage.
She sent me a thank you email back


Tuesday, August 30, 2005 at 16:46:18 (PDT)
mandy womack
Nconlan7123@aol.com

is the womack name an indian name what does it mean?


Tuesday, August 30, 2005 at 21:21:12 (PDT)
Beth
bhower@alltel.net

Mandy,

If you speak of Native Americans as "Indian", there were no 100% Native Amercan Womacks. It is my understanding that the eariest Womacks in the US migrated from Western Europe and could have been of certain mixed European blood. There are records of Womacks with a percentage of NA blood. These Womacks were the children of a Womack male and a female with variable percentages of Native American blood. I have a strong suspicion that one male in my line, b. in the 1750's or 1760's, had a dau. by an Eastern Cherokee female, evidenced by records of the the dau.'s descendants.

From the web page of one of our Womack researchers:

The meaning of the word, Womack:

(English) Dweller near the hollow Oak; crooked Oak.

Source: New Dictionary of American Family Names, by Elsdon Cole Smith.


Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 14:50:24 (PDT)
Robert E. Womack
r.womack12@verizon.net

Is there ANY credible information as to the parentage of Thomas (A) Womack (b~1743) who married Louvisa Rice that would link him to the earlier Womacks in Virginia?


Sunday, September 04, 2005 at 22:29:30 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Robert
Yes there is DNA that proved Thomas was the son of Abrahan Womack 1708 and Ann Nancy Blanton. You can research this on the Blanton website. I am the DNA doner used in the research and am a direct descendant of Thomas. The line goes back to Abraham Womack 1644 and is fairly well documented. If you search the WGN archives you will find much info on this, also my lineage is posted there. To be a donor in the project I had to furnish documents to verify my lineage.
Do a search on Blanton Historians Check http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~blantonroots/historians/home.htm
Jack


Monday, September 05, 2005 at 01:55:24 (PDT)
Trevor Warren Womack Sr.
trevorandmaria@comcast.net

I just found this Womack network and am amazed at the amount of information. I'm looking foward to researching my own line. I'm in northern California. I know my grandfather Ralph Womack lived here also for many years, but I know nothing of his earlier roots.


Monday, September 05, 2005 at 12:54:22 (PDT)
Ralph Cantrell
rjcantrell@knology.net

Womack Photographs. I have a wonderful photograph of some Texas/Oklahoma Womacks. John Morgan Womack born June 1, 1862 in Franklin Co., TN. He married Josephine "Josie" Pylant on Dec.15, 1882 in Franklin Co., TN. With John is his sister, Rebecca Elizabeth Womack born June 13, 1854 and her husband James A. Buchanan. Also in the photo is Henry L. Buchanan (son of James and Rebecca) and his wife Myrtle, and Fannie Ophelia Buchanan Fitch (daughter of James A. and Rebecca). Also in the photograph are two sons of John Morgan and Josie Pylant. They are believed to be David N. Womack born June, 1889, and James M. (Manly?) Womack born March 1893. This photo was taken in Whitt, Parker Co., Texas about 1920. Most of these people moved to Oklahoma before 1930.

I also have another photo which is believed to be connected to this same family, but do not know how. It was taken even earlier. In it are over sixty recognizable people believed to be Womacks. Will Share with anyone interested, especially if you think you can identify the earlier photo.


Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 15:20:03 (PDT)
Diane Lotspeich
lotspeich@dock.net

I have just about completed a DAR application for my mother-in-law and am now being asked to prove that the Martha Womack who was married to Robert Bean, way back when, was the daughter of Jacob Womack, Captain in the Overmountain Men militia who fought at Kings Mountain. Does anyone have some documentation that substantiates the relationship of Jacob's children, namely Martha? Apparently the DAR has closed this line and is requiring that it be reproved.
Thanks for your help.


Wednesday, September 07, 2005 at 02:23:31 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Diane,

Several researchers on WGN will probably find your statement interesting: "Apparently the DAR has closed this line and is requiring that it be reproved."

You might have to obtain your DAR membership through Capt. Robert Bean. His RW service would come closer to be proven than Martha Womack Bean's relationship to Maj. Jacob Womack. I have almost everything written on this Jacob Womack, and I've never found Robert and Martha Womack Bean on any court, land, or census records with Maj. Jacob Womack, and/or his "other" proposed sons & grandchildren. I'm not saying that Martha, Sarah and William are not his children. The relationship with Jacob & the "other" descendants is circumstantial., i.e. the 1790 Pendleton Co., SC census record has only head of household and no will for Jacob has been found to date. But there is a lot of circumstantial evidence after 1790.

We've had several (LOL !) discussions on WGN about Maj. Jacob and his descendants in the last several years. You can find the discussions in the archives.

Good luck, Diane!


Wednesday, September 07, 2005 at 02:58:08 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

NATIONAL SOCIETY DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN COLONISTS
STATE SOCIETIES AND CHAPTERS


TENNESSEE STATE SOCIETY
Captain Jacob Womack Johnson City, TN
Captain Thomas Jameson Murfreesboro, TN
Chattanooga Chattanooga, TN
Clay Lick Springfield, TN
Colonel Gideon Macon Jackson, TN
Jamestown Memphis, TN
Knoxville Knoxville, TN
Middle Plantation Nashville, TN
Prudence Hall Brentwood, TN
Union City Union City, TN


Wednesday, September 07, 2005 at 18:58:48 (PDT)
KAY
blakekay@yahoo.com

LOOKING FOR ANY INFO ON ARTIE M. WILLIAMS OR WENT BY (A.M.) AND WIFE MARTELLIE (PHILLIPS)WILLIAMS MARRIED 1912 IN PITTSBURG, CO. OK. MARTELLIE DIED 1930 AND IS BURIED AT CLAYTON,OK ARTIE HAD A GROCERY STORE AND BLACKSMITH SHOP IN CLAYTON FOR YEARS. THEIR CHILDREN BONDOLLA, LOUIE, ARTIE JR.WILBURN,IRENE, EDISON AND FLOY MAY.IRENE MAY WILLIAMS SISSON IS MY MOTHER.

THANKS KAY


Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 16:12:03 (PDT)
Diane and Jim Lotspeich
lotspeich@dock.net

Beth, Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately, the Robert Bean line has also been closed. In corresponding with several of the Bean researchers, there are two Robert Beans, first cousins actually, who fought in the RW. Our Robert was born in 1764 and actually fought with the Overmountain Men from Fort Watauga at the Battle of Kings Mountain in 1780. He was 16 at that time. But the DAR has the two Robert's so confused, all service has been attributed to the older Bean cousin, the line closed, and must be reproved as well. So I am running into roadblocks in that regard as well.

Martha Womack Bean's daughter, Martha, was married to a John Owens. He was much older than she and there is a chance I might be able to find some reference to his service in the RW. That is the direction I am headed next.

My mother-in-law is 89 and in poor health so we are trying to run this to ground while she is still with us.

Thank you for your help.


Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 16:16:54 (PDT)
diane and Jim Lotspeich
lotspeich@dock.net

Actually, I misspoke. It was daughter Rhoda Bean who married John Owens. I am off to see if I can find anything on his RW service. Too many Marthas, Roberts, Williams and Jacobs in this family tree. No wonder there is so much confusion!


Monday, September 12, 2005 at 04:50:34 (PDT)
Mark Wilkins
mwilkins@wspice.com

I am looking for any info concerning a adoption from Monroe County November 16th, 1955.
I am a adoptee seeking help.
Please advise,and all of the best to all!


Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 22:42:56 (PDT)
REGINA JONES
RCOVIC@YAHOO.COM

I AM TRYING TO TRACE MY FAMILY TREE. MY GREAT-GREAT GRANDMOTHER WAS A CHOCTAW INDIAN NAMED VIRGINIA TURNER(HER MARRIED NAME; INDIAN NAME UNKNOWN). SHE HAD 3 CHILDREN(THAT I KNOW OF): VIRGINIA TURNER,II(WHO WAS MARRIED TO JOHN GABLE, JR.; 13 CHILDREN?, LIVED IN ALEXANDRIA, RAPIDS OR PARISH COUNTIES), JANE TURNER(3 CHILDREN?) AND GERTRUDE TURNER JONES(10 CHILDREN?). I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO FIND THE TRIBE SHE WAS FROM. ARE THERE STILL ANY OF THEM ALIVE? WHERE ARE THEY NOW? I HAVE A GROWN SON AND A YOUNG DAUGHTER THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR HERITAGE. THANK YOU FOR ANY INFORMATION YOU CAN PROVIDE.


Friday, September 16, 2005 at 10:37:03 (PDT)
Nancy Beinhorn
nbeinhorn@sabglobal.net

PORTERVILLE EVENING RECORDER - OBITUARIES
Tuesday, Sept. 13, 2005
Gerald Womack
Gerald Womack, a resident of Porterville, died there Sunday, Sept. 11, 2005. He was 77.
Visitation will be from 2 to 7 p.m. Wednesday at Whitehurst Loyd Chapel in Porterville. A celebration of life service will be at 11 a.m. Thursday at Porterville First Church of the Nazarene in Porterville, with the Rev. Mark Pitcher officiating. Interment will be at Hillcrest Memorial Park.
Mr. Womack was a native of El Centro, and a resident of Porterville for 60 years. He owned Womack Realty, a U.S. Navy veteran, and was a member of the American Legion Post 20 in Porterville and Porterville First Church of the Nazarene.
He is survived by his wife of 30 years, Kathryn Womack of Springville; one son, William Womack of Springville; two daughters, Cheri Fitton of Strathmore and Kari Wills of Porterville; five grandchildren; and two great-grandchildren.
He was preceded in death by one brother, Homer Womack; and three sisters, Vivian Penny, Gladys Kennedy and Wynona Scott.
Whitehurst Loyd Funeral Service in Porterville is in charge of arrangements.
Nancy's Notes:
Jefferson Davis Womack/Alamansa Matilda Ann Norman > Walter Lee Womack/Ruby Lillis Allen > Gerald Allen Womack


Tuesday, September 20, 2005 at 12:46:05 (PDT)
Dana
dpwomack@mfire.com

I have a Robert Henry Womack b. 1852 in Louisiana who married Susie Megown in Missouri.

I believe that his father's name was Henry H. Womack b. abt. 1814 TN? married to Jane A. ? b. abt. 1823 VA. Their children were Mary A. b. 1841 AL, Virginia W. b. 1843 AL/LA, Susan F. b. 1846 LA, Sarah b. 1848 LA, Harriet G. b. 1849 LA, Robert H. b. 1852 LA, and Jesse b. 1860 LA.

They were living in DeSoto County, Louisiana during the 1850 census and 1860 census (he was census-taker on the 1860). He was on the slave schedule records for both years. Henry was sheriff from 1846-1850.

Robert Henry was living in Spencer, MO (Ralls County) in the 1880 census, but I can't find him or his parents in the 1870.

If anyone has information about this family - I would appreciate any help.


Tuesday, September 20, 2005 at 17:04:44 (PDT)
Pamela Goodwin Daniels
peegeedee3@yahoo.com

In 1964 I met an Airman (allegedly a pilot)that said his name was Michael Ronald Wormac. He was stationed at March AirForce Base located in Riverside, California. In April 1965, I gave birth to a son by this man, and that year he told me that he was going to Afghanistan and would be back in California by early 1966. I have been trying to find any evidence of this person, or his family for many many years now, even the Base Locator could not give me any information as to his where abouts, or his true identity.

After looking on this site I have seen the names: Wormac, Wormack, Wormach and Womack mentioned interchangably. All I know of this individuals family is that he had a brother named Robert, and that his parents were from Louisiana. His father was allegedly Creole (a mixture of Negro/African and French blood)and his mother German, supposedly a physician. In 1964 he was approximately 27/28 years old. I have no recollection of his father's name, or his mother's name.

Any help would be appreciated as to where I might go to find any information on this individual, or any other Wormacs in the United States.
Thank you all in advance.


Wednesday, September 21, 2005 at 20:26:09 (PDT)
Sam

OK, havent posted here an a spell and for good reason - as far as I am concerned WGN is a waste 0f my time and efforts -- I used to think differently -but after a series of events, this is the only conclusion I can come to =--

I have been put down about keeping people from posting - Jack allegedly has a cousin that wont post for fear I might say something - that cousin should talk to me -- that is BS and a cop out -- anyone wants to post , no matter what or how small is quit ewelcome to do so as I jave said in the past.

How soon pepople forget things' like Mark when He was starting this thing - and I sent stuiff to him - yes he gave a few credits then - but now, wont even answer e-mail..

Roger, I spent many hours on Instant messages, phone and e-mail working with him on iw own web pages.
Then I find some of his arent linked to mine; bit copied and presented as his --

Beth, while a dang good researcher, wont even respond to e-mail any more - Beth is it because didnt
stay longer in As last year and well -- wont get into that subject --

Jack says I have made a horse or mule or donkeys south end going north and insinuating I should
go to my lodge and drink -- how would he know if I had been or not at the time I wrote something?

A few years a go someone sent me a mail asking if I was a Womack - naturally you get suspicious
about questions like that - I went back and indicated I was and what was the problem - the verbage I
got from that woman was ridiculous - I sent Roger copies of the conversation she and I had; and,
instead of looking at the overall problem; he sent her a mail indicating that he was actually
backing her and that I was "high maintenance." Totally ignored the overall situation..

I have helped, sent and etc to many people that posted queries here on WGN without one dang response
they got it or not - One recently was Beth asking someone who had access to the WW 1 draft registrations
to do a look up - I did, and sent her the text and a copy of the actual card -- no response even
tho I have asked for one --

I do look at WGN and if a post looks like it has merit; I will respond individually to that person.
But even then have had problems - 4 out of the last 5 reponses I have given; I received nothing in
return -- that WILL NOT happen again, I rarely respond again to e-mail after the first non response.

The typical Womack response to any thing is a non response - thank God I have enough of my mother
in me to make some difference -

It has gotten to the point that I could care less for responses from but a few - and most of
them are collateral families -- the majority of Womacks appear to be well self centered and
lacking in social response to any situation -- there are a few rare occasiions there that does
not applly -- and yes, after 45 years of people-to people relation ships - I can detect few
abnormalities..

I maintain contacts with many Womacks or descendants in England, Australia and Canada - -How many of you
take to time to cultivate friendships and contacts like that?? Very few if any I can assure you.

If what I am posting here, goes against your grain; and, if it isnt deleted before you get a chance
to read it -- then you might want to take a look at yourself - I have, and I am not perfect; but I am one of the best Womack researchers you got out there - you can be too if you get off yerarse and apply yerself --

Now Roger, or Mark, how quick can you delete this so no one can see themselves in it??



Sunday, September 25, 2005 at 01:11:42 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

This is an excerpt of a message posted on Rootsweb's Womack-L web page, by a descendant of Green Womack, who died ca. 1872 in Putnam Co., MO. If this is your line, please let us know!

"........they (referring to WGN) do have my Gr-Gr-Grandmother; Annie's Cunningham's name listed wrong as: 'Agnes Galeon' and I have sent her daughter, Lutisha's death certificate to prove the name is; 'Annie Cunningham' but it has never been updated. I also asked to see the proof that Alexander Selkirk Womack's descendants have and never received anything on it......Sandy"

Sandy,

Womack Genealogy Network is a privately owned web page for folks like us to post their lines, ask for assistance in finding their families and hopefully, learn of their heritage. It operates just like Rootsweb, except we are at liberty to cite other web pages as references. There is no WGN data base. Some individuals who participate do have quite large Womack data bases. We would like to help you get the info from Lutisha's death certificate to the other descendants of your Green Womack.

It does appear that some researchers have Agnes Cunningham. And some have Galeon for her maiden name. Here's the info I've found regarding her name:

Illinois Trails http://iltrails.org/gallatin/groomss-z.html
Womack, Green Agnes Galton (see Galeon) 01/27/1828
Womack, Green Agnes Galeon (see Galton) 01/27/1828

Familysearch.org:
Green Womack
born 17 June 1788 SC d. *1872 *Dec
died 1872 Terrehaute Twp., Putnam, MO
married (2nd) *17 Jan 1828 Randolph IL *different day
Agnes Cunningham
born 1792
died abt. 1873 MO
dau. of *Joseph Galeon (another researcher has Josiah)
This would suggest she married 1st a Cunningham.?????? If anything, she could have married a Galeon first!
Info submitted by a LDS member.


1850 Sand Creek Twp., Shelby Co., IL Roll 128 Page 104A,
HH105
Green Wommack, age 62, b. SC Occu: Wheelright
Aconas Wommack, age 50, b. TN
Acy Womack, age 17 b. IL Occu: Farmer (Asa)
Alexander, age 15, b. IL Occu: Farmer
Talitha Wommack, age 8, b. IL

HH 1131/1001
1860 Jackson Twp., Putnam Co., MO
Green Wamick, age 72, b. GA Occu: Wheel Wright
Annis Wamick, age 61, b. NC (Could be Annie?)
Michael Williamson, age 8, b. IL

1870 Jackson Twp., Putnam Co., MO
Green Warmack, age 83, b. GA Occu: Retired Farmer
Agness Warmack, age 70, b. NC Occu: Keeping House
Atndy (sic) Wallace, age 58, b. TN (b. 1812....could be Mary Wallace Womack's brother?)

Sandy, the web page below has a picture of Alexander Selkirk Womack! Alfred R. and David A. Womack are descendants of Alexander.
http://dubbie.tripod.com/wonder/alexutah.html Sam Womack's web page
WOMACK FAMILY HISTORY By Alfred R. and David A. Womack

(Excerpts) dated December 24, 1988
"....Our family records are primarily based on Alexander Womack's old family Bible.......Green Womack first was married to Polly (whose name may have been
Mary "Polly" Wallace), born July 17, 1791. Their children were: Sally May 2, 1812), William (May 4, 1817), Jacob (August 17, 1819), Lucretia August 11, 1822), and Elizabeth (May 24, 1825). She must have died, because Green and his second wife named their first child after her in 1827. He married Agnes Cunningham, born in 1792. Our family comes from her line. There is some confusion about her name. The Census taker called her Annis; and Maxine Tinkham calls her Agness, We have seen her maiden name as Gallon or Galeon. They were married, according to Gallatin Co, Ill, records, in January of 1828....."

Sandy, Let's hope one of Green's descendants sees this post!


Monday, September 26, 2005 at 18:18:46 (PDT)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

Hi all,
I just returned from Scotland Neck and Halifax, NC. What a great trip. Everyone down there is just as nice as they could possibly be. Met some fun "cousins" and collected a lot of information.

I did everything from cross a soybean field to find the "Womack Family Cemetery", which turned out to be about 10 graves all but one unmarked, to having cocktails with two decendants of Asa Wommack on the backporch of one's very well preserved pre civil war home.

I have to collect all my notes and put them in some order then I'll give a more detailed account. Those of you, I have corresponded privately with about this trip - I will give the full details.

Halifax County and perhaps the rest of the state is a genealogist's dream. Almost every tombstone for a woman contains her maiden name. What a dream come true! Everyone reading this should keep that in mind when burying loved ones or planning your own "aftercare".

If anyone reading this has ever heard a family tale about a Womack from Arkansas going back to North Carolina to fight in the Civil War - please post the story. It is a family legend down there, so if you know who it was it would be nice to validate it.


Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 18:36:01 (PDT)
Darrel and Judy
jwma@comcast.net


I found a very interesting web page, called www.findagrave.com put in a name and find where they are buried, and may be someing about them. People go to Cemeterys and put the headstones information on line, may even see a picture, or put flowers at the site.

very intresting site, fun to browse Judy


Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 12:56:14 (PDT)
Trish Bryant
JESUSthankyou@HOTMAIL.COM

I am Trish L. Bryant I am asking for sole divorce from Leonard Edward Bryant
and if there are no objections for it to go through in thirty days or sooner.
Thank you and have ablessed day.

Trish Bryant


Saturday, October 01, 2005 at 08:25:08 (PDT)
jennifer womack
len@cordery1954.wanadoo.co.uk

hi my name is jenny womack .my dad name was albert e womack.uncles name peter. eddie.mother name mary bush real name rosina mauld bush.is any one out there who knowes any of the above.


Tuesday, October 04, 2005 at 07:05:21 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

A short bio for
Rice, (Henry) Grantland
(1880–1954)

Sportswriter, born in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, USA. A graduate of Vanderbilt University, he began as a reporter with the Nashville News (1901). After working as a sportswriter for other Southern newspapers, he joined the New York Mail (1910), then joined the New York Tribune (later the Herald Tribune) (1911–30), with time out for service in France during World War 1 (1918–19). After leaving the Tribune, he wrote a widely syndicated column, ‘The Sportlight’, and made a series of short films on sports, and was in charge of selecting the All-American football team for Collier's magazine (1926–54). Considered the dean of American sportswriters, his syndicated columns included some of sport's most memorable phrases, including those describing Notre Dame's football backfield as ‘The Four Horsemen’. A prolific versifier, one of his poems included the famous line, ‘When the One Great Scorer comes to write against your name/He marks - not that you won or lost - but how you played the game’.


Tuesday, October 04, 2005 at 08:50:36 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack @ grandecom.net

FYI
Please notice I have started to put spaces before and after the @ sign in my email address to prevent worms, viruses, and robots from harvesting them. If you would like to correspond, just remove the spaces.
With practices like this we can and will the fight against those who would do us harm. This procedure will work until those with harvesting engines revise their protocol.
Another precaution I take to prevent "spoofing" of mail to you by others is to insert -----a series of dashes and a codeword in the subject box following the subject. This can not be spoofed by those who have harvested my adderss. Some of my mail friends are doing this also and it gives us the green light to open any mail or attachment. Try it you'll like it, we do.
Jack


Friday, October 07, 2005 at 12:34:51 (PDT)
Abner Z.
abner @ daisynet.com

Posted in the online Bowling Green KY "Daily News" on Tuesday, 23 August 2005.

HERBERT WOMACK

Herbert Womack, 86, of Bowling Green died at 1:30 a.m. Aug. 23, 2005, at a Bowling Green nursing home.

The Logan County native was a factory worker and worked in sales. He was a member of Calvary Baptist Church, Bowling Green Masonic Lodge No. 73 and Eastern Star Park City Chapter No. 28. He was a son of the late James Franklin Womack and Lavator Moody Womack and the husband of the late Eunice Womack. He was preceded in death by a son, James Lewis Womack.

Funeral will be at 10 a.m. Friday at J.C. Kirby & Son Funeral Home, Broadway Avenue chapel, with burial in Chapel Hill Memorial Gardens. Visitation will be from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. Wednesday and from 1 p.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday at the funeral home. A Masonic service will be at 7 p.m. Thursday at the funeral home.

Survivors include two sons, Roger Glen Womack Sr. and Darral Womack, both of Bowling Green; a daughter, Faye Richey Womack of Bowling Green; a sister, Kathryn Bell of Bowling Green; nine grandchildren; 19 great-grandchildren; and five great-great-grandchildren.


Monday, October 10, 2005 at 04:50:56 (PDT)
aly
aly_2009@hotmail.com
egypt

على باشا عاشور يتفضل ويجى يفطر معنا انهاردة لو يسمح


Monday, October 10, 2005 at 06:31:13 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack @ Grandecom.net

A NEW WORM ALERT
A new variant of the Sober e-mail worm has started spreading as an attachment that claims to be an old class photo sent by a schoolmate. But if recipients open the file, they don't see a picture of themselves in braces. Instead, a worm tries to steal their information and then mail itself to others. This could also include e-mail that purposes to contain family photos. Make sure your anti-virus program is up to date. Malware embedded in photos is not new but a new round of virus is in the wild.
Jack


Wednesday, October 12, 2005 at 06:15:54 (PDT)
LGreen
beech1007@sbcglobal.net

I descend from Abraham Womack who married Elizabeth Stubblefield in 1751. Their daughter Mary was my fourth great grandmother. She was born abt 1756. She married first an Unknown Jones. She next married David Benton in KY.
From Autobiography of John K. Bain:
"Grandmother Benton died at Father's (Peter Bain)house at the age of eighty-five. Her maiden name was Womack. She and her husband(Jones) and children lived in South Carolina in time of the Revolutionary War. After the War, they started to move to Kentucky, and in crossing a river, her husband and all the children were drowned except for a boy Wellman, and girl Elizabeth. She, herself, was washed down the river and caught some bushes until she was rescued. After she got to Kentucky, she later married the widower David Benton."
Does anyone know who this Jones might be? Has anyone ever heard of a Wellman Womack?
Thank you.


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mako shark
makoshark80@hotmail.com

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 at 15:58:11 (PDT)
Donald Shawn Womack
heavyd7795@hotmail.com

Hi, I am looking to find out any information that I can about my family line and also to find out the heritage of the Womack name. If anybody could help me that would be great. I am Donald Shawn Womack Born in La Junta Colorad on 3-3-77. My Dad is Melvin Don Womack and is the son of LaVerne Don Womack.


Wednesday, October 12, 2005 at 20:54:20 (PDT)
Brenda LaChance Krans
indiana@color-country.net

I am trying to find out information on my gg grandfather Lewis LaChance I have recently found out that his wife was Ceclia Womack and they were married 11/20/1831 in Lawrence County Ak. If anyone knows anything about this family I could sure use some help. I can't find out anything I do know that Cecilia had a sister named Hulda. Thank you Brenda


Thursday, October 13, 2005 at 01:04:53 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Brenda~

I hope you are referring to Lawrence Co., Arkansas and not Alaska!

From my Arkansas Womacks file, I have this:

Children of John Womack and Unknown wife are:

1. Mahala Womack, b. ca. 1810, TN, d. 1848, Randolph Co., AR; m. William Adair son Huldy Adair
2. Lucy A. Womack, b. 1818, AR, d. Oct 1880, Clay Co., AR) m. 1st _____ Luttrell; m. 2nd 21 Mar 1840, Randolph Co., AR, Peter Watson, b. 1810, KY, d. Clay Co., AR
3. Cecilia Womack m. 20 Nov 1831 in Lawrence Co., AR, Lewis LaChance of Madison Co., MO
4. John J. Womack, b. 1825, m. 4 May 1845, Randolph Co., AR, m. Nancy E. Murray
5. Wade Hampton Womack, b. 1830, m. 1st 25 Mar 1849, Randolph Co., AR Kizza Taylor; 2nd 3 Jul 1857, Randolph Co., AR, Pemetta Taylor
6. Sarah Womack, m. 24 Sep 1834, Lawrence Co., AR, Jesse S. Winningham, b. 1815, TN, d. 1873, Randolph Co., AR, son of Sherrod Winningham son George W. Winningham of Green Co., AR (Jesse Winningham m. 3rd Nancy V. Womack)

I don't have a sister, Hulda, but Cecilia Womack LaChance's brother, John J. Womack had a daughter, Hulda Womack.

Randolph Co., AR was created in 1835; I believe it was taken from Lawrence Co.

John Womack, father of your Cecilia, migrated to AR from TN the same time as my Womacks and was listed on the 1816 Lawrence Co., AR Tax list with mine. I haven't been to establish any other connection yet.

Beth


Thursday, October 13, 2005 at 09:23:50 (PDT)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

In case anyone is curious the Arabic posting below says

"Ali Pasha Ashour" is invited for iftar (ramadan dinner) with us today if he'd like.

I hope Ali made it :)


Friday, October 14, 2005 at 06:26:12 (PDT)
James Parkhill
jmparkhill@yahoo.com

Looking for othes whose descent follows as such or any other derivitives.
Abraham Womack-Sara Worsham
Jame Womack m. Henry Pew
Jane Pew m. John Price
John Price m. Hann Williamson
William Price m. Susanah Burton
John Price m. Mary Johnson
Daniel Price m. Sara Perkins
James J. Price m. Malinda Ann Wood
John James Price m. Mary Bradley
This is John is my great grandfather


Friday, October 14, 2005 at 15:44:46 (PDT)
Dorinda Bain
dorindabain2@yahoo.com

Am I the only person around researching Wommack's(Womack)in Florida? I just read though the archives in the recent postings. I was very disappointed to find not one posting for the Florida/South Georgia area. I REALLY need some help here folks....I know that Benjamin and Nancy Wommack did not just fall from the sky. He died in 1859 in Liberty Co, Fl. His wife Nancy and children are listed in the 1860 census for Gadsden Co, Fl. After that I loose them, I believe that James moved to Polk Co, FL along with other siblings. My line comes from Francis and he married Celestra Jane Chason and raised his family in Florida. Please someone help me with some information.


Friday, October 14, 2005 at 19:46:26 (PDT)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

Dorinda - Benjamin and Nancy are also on the 1850 census for Gasden County Florida. Where he states he was born in Georgia. In 1840 there is a Benjamin in the Thomas County Georgia census with a wife and 8 children. And before that in 1830 there is a James Womack next to an Alsobrook in Jones county GA. Could be the same person as the ages match and Thomas county was carved from Jones county (1840 census says they are in the Jones District).
I suggest looking for Wills or Bible records that would give you a clue on parentage of Benjamin and you might try North Carolina as a starting place on the wills. Alsobrook's (Allsbrook's) and Womacks have a strong connection in NC.
According to the census data he was born in GA about 1798. You might also try marriage records in GA for the time period and see if you can come up with a maiden name for Nancy.

I know that's not much help but hope you can run with it.


Saturday, October 15, 2005 at 09:24:23 (PDT)
Patricia (Pat)(Womack) Doucette
Pat3and1@comcast.net

Are there any Womack's out there from Rhode Island. My grandfather came over from England in the later part of the 1800's. Several brothers & sisters also. My grandfather was Clement and sister Teresa, Frances, Mary, Agnes & brothers Bernard Alfred & Francis. Also looks like the father Elijah came also but maybe mother Emma (Bigley) died in England. Just starting & is getting a little overwelming so would appreciate any HELP you can give.


Saturday, October 15, 2005 at 16:35:09 (PDT)
Doretta
Donree@EKNS.net

Mrs Mary Womack Jones may have or may not have married David Benton in KY. On a RootsWeb Site, it shows Mary Womack b1756 d1835 and David Benton (Rev War Solider) b1735 d1833 as parents of Sina/Sinah Benton b 17 Sept 1789 in N.Car. d 30 Nov 1870 and that she married in 1814 in Warren Co Tenn to Peter Bain b1784 Fluvanna Co VA. David Benton seems to have also married Abigail Hale b 1742 and had at least 2 sons named Caleb and David. Sina Benton and Peter Bain had several issue. Doretta


Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 13:04:36 (PDT)
Tracie Easterling
tlwe@bellsouth.net

October 15, 2005

Clyde R. 'Dick' Warmack

Brandon


Clyde R. "Dick" Warmack, 58, died Thursday, October 13, 2005, at the Mississippi Baptist Medical Center in Jackson. Services were Friday, October 14, 2005, at Stringer Family Funeral Services in Crystal Springs will burial in Evergreen Cemetery. Elder Thomas Hudnall officiated.

Born in Paris, Tenn., Dick was a graduate of Grove High School. He went into the printing business with his mother at the age of 9 and was called into Vietnam at the age of 17. He opened his own printing shop in Paris upon returning from Vietnam in 1969. He worked in Memphis for several years before moving to Jackson where he has lived for the past 25 years, and became part owner of Franklin Printers.

His parents, James T. and Johnnie Christopher Warmack preceded him in death.

He is survived by his wife, Ann Plitt Warmack; daughter, Miriam Thomas of Paris, Tenn.; step-daughters, Shannon Allen of Dauphin Island, Ala., and Kim Davis of Clinton; two brothers, Joe Warmack of Eastpoint, Mich., and Tommy Warmack of Murray, Ky.; eight grandchildren, Elizabeth, Laura, Megan, Paige Thomas, Bowen and Austin Allen, Danielle and Sydney Davis. He also leave behind a host of friends, nieces and nephews.

Pallbearers were Johnny Caino, Cole Delong, Gene Bell, Keith Eady, Jay Hill and Michael Louvier. Honorary pallbearers were Cliff Treadway, N.R. Sullivan, Perry Blocke, George Forkin and Ralph Sowell.


Monday, October 17, 2005 at 10:41:34 (PDT)
Dlynn Walker
--- dlynn_walker AT yahoo.com---

Sam,

I am gggrandaughter of Rhoda Jane Womack. (parents William Riley Womack and Lucretia Taylor Womack)

I don't think you ever sent me anything in the past, but if you did I hope I at least said "thank you".

I haven't been to the site in nearly two years due to family unexpected situations. I do know that whoever I WAS corresponding with at that time probably got the cold shoulder as I went from a schedule of work and genealogy to a schedule of work and raising two grandchildren. (1 and 5 now 3 and 7 years old).

I respect the research I have seen from you and imagine you as a mentor, but being new to genealogy research and to WGN I must admit that you often seem VERY angry and I am fearful to ask your assistance because I might not live up to your expectations therefore incurring your wrath.

I hope that others would not intentionally offend you, but on my part if I got on your "S____t-L___t" when I dropped out (I did not expect to be raising two little ones at this point in my life). I humbly apologize and ask forgiveness.

My research is little as I have mostly depended on existing family records and those of members of WGN. I am still learning to research and hope to be a great resource to the membership someday. I guess I just expected everyone to share what they knew in order for all of us to put more pieces of the puzzle together.

Good-luck with your research, your life, your future and I hope you keep sharing despite the "rudeness" of some of us in the Womack line.


Monday, October 17, 2005 at 11:39:20 (PDT)
Dlynn
---dlynn_walker AT yahoo.com --

Jack, I found your post interesting, . .
. . . I was in the Pioneer Cemetery in Eastland Co TX recently for my wifes cousin's funeral and discovered something unusual. . . . Rising Star TX

My gg-grandmother was Rhoda Jane Womack (Lucretia Taylor Womack m William Riley Womack) Rhoda Jane m Stevens -and my great grandmother was born in Rising Star in 1901 Eva Zell Stevens Singleton. EVA had younger sisters born in Indian Territory (OK), but then my gg-grandfather died and Rhoda Jane loaded the buckboard up with the seven kids and headed back to Texas.

I don't know if I sent you her autobiography or not, but I'm pretty sure I remember from the last time I was here that you and I are related (about four or five generations back)

Dlynn


Friday, October 21, 2005 at 13:27:26 (PDT)
Ruby Grace Brown
rgracebrown@earthlink.net

To the person who wanted to establish a link between Alday and Womack families.My grandfather was Sidney Dillard Alday son of James Alday. James was son of Benjamin Alday, son of Josiah Alday and Ann Nancy Womack. They lived in Burke County, GA around 1760-1770. He was in the GA Militia and Captain in Rev. Unit. The family was from Virginia. Josiah and Ann Nancy had several sons, David, Richard, Benjamin (our line)and some I can't recall without my records. I have a lot of infomation on this family. They spread out, into Butler County Alabama and Clark County, MS. Some of the family went to Texas. Several grandsons were in the Civil War. I don't know if this will help you. I will be glad to share what I have with anyone interested. Ruby Brown, Sacramento, CA.


Saturday, October 22, 2005 at 17:24:18 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

Don't know if there are any Pryors here on this site I found who married Womacks but found this site and figured I'd post it

http://www.tnpryors.com/


Sunday, October 23, 2005 at 14:57:58 (PDT)
James Womack
James@commontyme.net
www.commontyme.com

Clyde Oliver Womack, son of James Isaac Womack passed away about a week ago. While looking through his house, we have come upon on an ancient photo album with about 4 daguerreotype photographs. There are lots of names of people of whom I don't know. I know Nora McKnight was James Isaac's wife. Does anyone know much about her family? I have lots of pictures of her and her family. Any help would be nice.


Tuesday, October 25, 2005 at 08:46:14 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

James,

In 2001 on Genforum.genealogy.com/Womack, there was a gal named Brandi, who descends from Jim Womack and Nora McKnight. Search for Nora McKnight on this Genforum web page. When Brandi's posts come up, click on her name, and you can view the other web pages on Genforum where she's posted. She has info on Nora's parents, etc. I don't know if her email addy is still current, but in 2001 it was Brandie32000@aol.com.


Saturday, October 29, 2005 at 12:00:18 (PDT)
Ann
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Dorinda, you need to talk to Miles Womack about Benjamin - Miles does Florida Womacks.
Try Mylzw@worldnet.att.net and see if that email is still good, haven't heard from Miles in a while.


Monday, October 31, 2005 at 18:40:53 (PST)
Billy Ray Alday
bkalday at webtv.net
genforum.genealogy.com/Alday

Just wanted to thank every one for help in the Womack family plus Alday.


Friday, November 04, 2005 at 17:33:00 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Hi Doretta,

I remember you mentioned Archibald Womack and the Self/Hager connection in April. Archibald Womack, b. VA, and Sarah "Sally" Hager, b. Lincoln Co., NC, were the parents of Thomas Womack, b. Lincoln Co., NC, who was in Batesville, Independence Co., AR by 1850. According to the Oaklawn Cemetery records in Batesville, Thomas Womack (b. ca. 1813) m. Clara (Clarecy on the census records) Taylor, dau. of Absalom and Catherine Taylor. They were married and had son, William, by 1840 in Lincoln Co., NC.

I haven't looked at many of Archibald & Sally's children, but Starling and Elisha stayed in Lincoln Co. Sally's brother, Starling/Sterling Hager later came to Arkansas.

Archibald Womack was in Lincoln Co., NC by 1805 because the Hager researchers say Sally Hager m. Archibald at 15 and she was b. in 1790. I could not pin down a date of birth for him as the 1820 census record said 26-44. She was a widow by 1840.

Looking at the Womacks who lived in Lincoln Co., NC......

Abraham Womack, b. ca. 1726 Henrico Co., VA, d. ca. 1800 Lincoln Co., NC, son of Thomas Womack and Mary Farley. Abraham's son, Abner Womack, born January 07, 1764 in Prince Edward Co., Virginia; died February 14, 1845 in Butler Co., Kentucky. He ived in Lincoln Co., NC until 1797 when he moved to Logan Co., KY. He married Agnes Nancy Reed.

Abraham had a brother, Thomas, who had a grandson, Archer, b. ca. 1770 in Chesterfield Co., VA. That's the only possibility I see for Archibald Womack.

On Sam's NC Womack Marriages page, he has Sallie Hager and Archibald Womack with a URL to view the children of this couple, but the URL no longer works.

Do you know the parents of Archibald Womack?


Saturday, November 05, 2005 at 20:28:50 (PST)
Doretta Noland
DREEC@EKNS.NET

BETH --- Sorry I can't help you. I was also looking for Archibald Womack's parents. His daughter Jane married Franklin Hager/Hagar who I believe is connected to me. I have a L.B.W.Jones who married 1st "Betsy" Elizabeth Hager/Hagar who I think could be the daughter of Sarah Elizabeth Self and David Hager/Hagar or she could be a different Elizabeth Hager/Hagar. Franklin, I believe had an aunt named Elizabeth. Anyway I can't find who these Elizabeths married, nor can I find data on L.B.W.Jones 1st marriage, but he lived Madison, Estill and maybe Jessamine Cos KY. My ancester is his 1st wife whoever she is.Doretta


Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 00:05:35 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Doretta,

WGN's search engine won't pull it up (probably my typing!), but in Nov of 2002, Charlotte Jones Harrington posted a query about a possible Mary Womack who married into her Jones family of Stanley Co., NC. I kept running into the Harrington and Jones families while looking for the Hagers and Womacks. I believe her great grandfather was Baldwin "Baldy" Jones. Mary Womack (or Moss?) was "Baldy"'s mother. If you would care to, look in the archives for her post. You might email her and see if she has anything on your Jones. I haven't heard from Charlotte in a while, but she still lives in the area.


Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 10:09:15 (PST)
Doretta Noland
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Thanks Beth --- I couldn't find Charlotte's postings on WGN. (I still have trouble trying to find stuff.) Anyway you said she had Jones of N.Car, so I tried RootsWeb message boards and found her posting on Lee Co, N.Car in 2003. She had some hits on her posting (lots of data). I need to study her postings and the data in the hits, but soon I will try that 2003 e-mail address. Thanks again. Are you working on your Foster line? They are tied up with the Joneses. --- Doretta


Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 19:42:50 (PST)
Paul N. Womack
paulwomack11@msn.com

I recently received an advertisement in the mail for "The Year 2005 International Womack Family Yearbook" for $39.85,with a Denver Colorado return address. Does anyone have any knowledge or info on this book? In other words, is it worth the $40.


Monday, November 07, 2005 at 15:01:35 (PST)
Robert E. Moore (Womack mother)
MooRob4@aol.com
N/A

Paul: NO! Save your money it is only a gimmic. Bob


Tuesday, November 08, 2005 at 01:27:06 (PST)
Marisa Alderdice
mstrickland76@hotmail.com

I am interested in finding information on my great-grandmother, Elnora Womack Murray. She was the daughter of Judge Judge Womack (yes, his name was Judge and he was a judge) and was raised in Danville, VA, where my grandmother Kitty Murray Strickland was also born. I have few records since they are both deceased and would like to hear if anyone has any more information regarding my family.


Tuesday, November 08, 2005 at 07:22:41 (PST)
Jackie
JDperry@verizon.net

I found this on the web, it might not be new info, thought I would post anyway.

Civil War Soidiers of Lincoln Co, North Carolina.

Elisha WOMACK, Private, 23rd Regiment CO "K" Enlisted Aug 20th 1862 Wounded Chancellorsville.

Starling WOMAC, Private, Fifty Second Regiment CO "C" Enlisted October 8,1863 Wounded.

Rutherford Co, NC.Cemetery.

Thomas WOMACK, CSA Union Church Cemetery, Ruterford Co, NC.

Jackie


Wednesday, November 09, 2005 at 10:03:00 (PST)
Doretta Noland
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Thanks Sam for your note on John Womack's wife. It is good to know. That seems to be a problem where the female is lots of times thought of in her husband's surname and not in her maiden name that she was born with.It is a problem in many forms. I took my maiden name back when I divorced my first husband and kept it when I married my 2nd husband. Now he gets phone calls and mail for Mr. Noland. Also Derrell and Shawna, I want to thank both of you . Your Hager/Hagar Data does help me in knowing which of all those Elizabeths isnot Louis B.W.Jones (b1799) first wife. I am thinking that she is the daughter of David Hager/Hagar and Elizabeth Self. I don't know for sure, but she is about the correct age and lots of that bunch came to KY. I haven't yet found anything about who that Elizabeth married. Beth, I found another later E-Mail address for Charlotte. Doretta


Wednesday, November 09, 2005 at 23:35:45 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

Yw


Thursday, November 10, 2005 at 08:31:42 (PST)
Shirley Diana Vantrease Hight
sdiana_48f@yahoo.com

I want to introduce myself. My name is Shirley Diana Vantrease Hight. My grandmother was Desi Mai Womack. She was the daughter of Chyrus Levi Womack and Carrie Gentry. My fathers name was Chyrus Jackson Vantrease. I am looking for information regarding Chyrus Levi Womack. My grandmother gave me a few family photos. One is of her father (Chyrus Levi Womack), mother (Carrie Gentry Womack), herself and one of her brothers. The other photo is another family picture which dislays her family and other relatives. She has passed on now but she told me that she did not know all of there names but is, I guess, from the Womack side. I was also told that I have an American native heritage on this side and I do not know which tribe, but I have been told I have Indian features and I have the olive skin color. I am very interested in finding more information about my Womack family side as I have traced back on the Vantrease history.

Thanks for any information,

Diana


Thursday, November 10, 2005 at 13:49:14 (PST)
Shirley Diana Vantrease Hight
sdiana_48f@yahoo.com

I forgot to add in my first posted message that I am from Wilson County, Tennessee and was raised in Watertown. My gg-grandfather was William Vantrease and he married Mary Jane Womack in 1845. The old home place is still standing and the family cemetry is on the property.

Thanks again,
Diana


Thursday, November 10, 2005 at 17:26:49 (PST)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Hi to all my cousins and mail buddies
By the grace of God and the thousands who were standing the gap for me I dodged the bullet again. Went in for majot abdominal surgery Sat. Oct 29 and they lost me to a heart attack while on the table. Woke up on a Chinese Torture Rack called a ventilator unable to breathe because I had upchucked in my face mask.
Am at home today Nov 10 and am too weak to answer all my mail, have sacked it up and will read later. Thanks for your prayers.
Jack


Friday, November 11, 2005 at 08:15:52 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

Glad your doing and feeling better Jack


Friday, November 11, 2005 at 12:55:33 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Jackson,

Just like I've always been told, the good Lord is still in the miracle business. I guess He was riding herd on you again, Cuz!

All of your Cuzzins are thankful for yet another miracle!

Beth


Friday, November 11, 2005 at 16:11:35 (PST)
Ina R. Cannaday
inaruth@earthllink.net

Seeking information re: Grandfather William David Womack; wife, Rebecca Jane Campbell ;parents of my mother, Flurida Odelia Womack born 31-07-1894 in Montague, Tx. WD Womack was possible born in Arkansas around 1857 and RJ Campbell born in Virginia in 1855. Her father's name was John W. Campbell born in either KY or NC date about 1820. His wife was named Hulda but I don't know her maiden name. She was born in Tennessee in 1820.


Saturday, November 12, 2005 at 07:56:45 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Ina,

There are several researchers on this web page who descend from this family. I'll just list the data I found.

According to family researchers on Rootsweb's World Connect, William Jefferson Womack, b. 1 Feb 1833 Washington (probably) Co., AR d. 9 Sep 1889, son of David Womack and Elizabeth Briscoe, m. 3rd Rebecca McDonald 3 Jul 1889 Jack Co., TX.

The 1900 Montague Co., TX census records for Rebecca Womack indicate her Womack children were Henry D. Womack, b. Apr 1890 TX and Flurida Womack, b. Jul 1894 TX. The researchers list only Henry as William Jefferson's son. You will note that William Jefferson d. in 1889. There is a marriage license with the July 1889 date of W. J. Womack and Rebecca McDonald in Jack Co., TX.

Henry and his sister and brother-in-law Flurida Womack and Sanford K. Hamilton, are found with their half sister, Bell McDonald Kirk, b. ca. 1876 KS, on the 1910 Hunter Twp., Kiowa Co., OK.

William Jefferson Womack's son, Isom Conrad m. Belle McDonald 29 June 1889 Jack Co., TX. I don't know whether Belle McDonald was Rebecca Campbell and William McDonald's daughter, Bell McDonald Kirk. Also, I don't know if Isom Conrad's first wife, Belle McDonald died or the marriage ended in divorce. Isom married Prudence Mary Alice Beebe bef. 1889. Do you have information on Bell McDonald Kirk?

Rebecca and her 1st husband, William McDonald are found on the 1880 Coyville Twp., Wilson Co., KS census with children Amanda, age 4 b. KS, Americus V., age 3 b. MO and Lillie M., age 1 mo., b. KS. On the 1990 census she also has her daughter, Ella J. McDonald, age 17 b. KS and her mother, Hulda Campbell, age 80 b. TN.

Rebecca's parents, John W., age 52 b. NC and Hulda Campbell, age 60 b. TN are on the 1880 Wichita Falls Twp., Wichita Co., TX census with children Daniel M, age 26 b. MO, William H., b. AR, Nancy V., age 16 b. TX and grandson, James M, age 5 b. TX.

Ina, maybe your family has information that Rebecca was married to William David Womack after William Jefferson Womack died.


Saturday, November 12, 2005 at 11:29:07 (PST)
Shirley Diana Vantrease Hight
sdiana_48f@yahoo.com

Hello all: I am trying to help my first cousin out on her Womack side. I was wondering if anyone had any information on a Mallie Erah Womack that married a Will Sorrells?

Thanks,
Diana


Saturday, November 12, 2005 at 15:53:37 (PST)
ina Cannaday
inaruth@earthlink.net

Beth,
Thank you for all the information re: my Womack relatives. Some of the dates do not match with what I have, but they could all be wrong as I have very little to go on. My mother died when I was 13 and I had never gotten much info from her before then. Bell McDonald Kirk was my mother's half sister, as was Ella (I thought the last name was McDonnell per the 1900 census for Montague, TX.) I only knew them as Bell Kirk and Ella Hamilton. Sanford Hamilton was my mother's first husband whom she married at age 14. I assume Bell was Rebecca and William J.'s daughter. I am probably incorrect as to his middle name--David was something I had listed on my mother and father's marriage application, however, there were several errors on that about my Dad's family names also--so who knows.Thanks again. Will let you know if I find anything else.


Saturday, November 12, 2005 at 19:39:06 (PST)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

I recieved this message from Barbara Sullivan's husband and wanted to pass it along....
Hi
This is her husband John and I have been trying to get her e-mail program to
work for me. Barbara died on October 27th. from respitory failure. I know
she would have liked to say goodbye and to thank you for being a friend.
John
jlsjr@valornet.com


Saturday, November 12, 2005 at 22:15:54 (PST)
Karin Wammack
kariregi@yahoo.com

Hello, Diana of Wilson County,
As nearly as I can tell, your Mary Jane Womack married to William Vantrease is the older sister of my gggrandfather Richard Thompson. I have a picture of my gggrandfather, and letters from or about his brothers William Amzi, and James Smith, and their father and families. I would be most interested in sharing information and pictures.


Saturday, November 12, 2005 at 23:10:57 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

I'm sure most of you don't know Barbara Sullivan's connection to the Womacks. She was a descendant of Joseph Riddle, Choctaw, and Phebe Womack, daughter of Jesse Womack, son of Maj. Jacob Womack. It just took us three years of friendship to figure that out!

I really lost a wonderful internet pal.


Saturday, November 12, 2005 at 23:33:39 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Update on the William Jefferson Womack and his son, Isom Conrad Womack's marriages.

William Jefferson married Rebecca J. Campbell McDonald Jack Co., TX 1889.

Isom Conrad married Rebecca's daughter, Amanda Isabelle McDonald Jack Co., TX 1889. "Bell" m. 2nd Joseph Bailey Kirk. On the 1900 Choctaw, Indian Territory Oklahoma, I found dau., Leora L. Womack, b. May 1896, with Bell and Joseph.


Sunday, November 13, 2005 at 01:33:28 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

Here is this Beth to go with what you found

The Jacksboro Gazette
September 26 1893

Location: Jacksboro
Source: Jacksboro Public Library Microfilms

Description:


J.B. Norris of Graham
Oliver Loving of Los Valley
Capt. S.W. Eastin

District Court
L.E. Felder vs. W.D. Felder, divorce; granted and custody minor child given to plaintiff.
------->Isam Womack vs. Bell Womack, suit for divorce; divorce granted.
State vs. Marion Mullis; jury trial; guily of burglary and two years in penitentiary
State vs. John West, not guilty
State vs. George Freeman, not guilty
State vs. Dick Vanderburg; guilty; two years in penitentiary
John Hensley vs. William Harrell, et al, for plaintiff, $6,867.00
State vs. Syrus Matthews, dismissed
State vs. James Turner, dismissed
State vs. Bill Pitts, dismissed
State vs. Hutson Farmer, charged with murder in 1867, not guilty
State vs. James Christopher, not guilty
State vs. John Kirk; plead guilty; verdict of the jury: We the jury find that the defendant is not over 16 years of age and assess his punishment of confiement in the house of correction and reformatory for 5 years.
Ferdinand Gentry vs. L.M. & S.J. McAnear; judgement for $1,782.00; foreclosure of vendor’s lien
M.A. Duncan et al vs. Joseph Franklin, et al; for defendants
B.R. McConnell vs. S.A. and R.T. Willingham and George Fowler, for plaintiff
F.A. and S.H. Stinnett vs. David and Joe Mobley; for defendant; appeal
J.M. Murphy vs. R.W. Biggerstaff and S.W. Mitchell; for defendants
J.A. Wall vs. John Luttrall, arbitration
Mrs. Belle Holdway vs. D.C. Holdway, suit for divorce; granted
State vs. Hyatt; dismissed
D.B. Gilliland, granted license to practice law
J.A. Calvert vs. L.B. and Mary Scott; for plaintiff
State vs. John West; judgment set aside except costs
State vs. Wilburn Brummett; dismissed
P.H. Stone vs. W.M. Byrd, et al; for plaintiff

Dr. J.T. Robinson’s stable was burned last night.




Sunday, November 13, 2005 at 10:27:44 (PST)
Erin Dent
erindent@charter.net

I have a picture of Isom Connrad Womack with his family if anyone related would like to have in just let me know and I can email it. I also have one of his grave stone.


Erin


Sunday, November 13, 2005 at 10:45:50 (PST)
Ina Cannaday
inaruth@earthlink.net

Erin,
I would love to have a copy of the photo of Isom Conrad Womack and his family and his gravestone. Thanks. Ina


Monday, November 14, 2005 at 08:36:20 (PST)
Jessica Hutyra
jessicahutyra@grandecom.net

My birth name is, Jessica Aline Worsham. I am trying to locate any Worshams that would have been from Shelby County. My father's name is, Bobbye Lee Worsham and his mother was Aline Collier. Does anyone have any information on these people or their relatives? Thanks for any help.


Monday, November 14, 2005 at 09:45:23 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

What state jessica


Monday, November 14, 2005 at 13:33:06 (PST)
Jessica Hutyra
jessicahutyra@grandecom.net

Sorry....that would be the state of Texas. Center, Texas to be exact!


Tuesday, November 15, 2005 at 12:52:58 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

Jessica here are the only people I found on http://www.whitepages.com/ with the last name Worsham and living in Center,TX

Arvin Worsham
Eula Worsham
Rick Worsham
Virgil R Worsham


Wednesday, November 16, 2005 at 11:58:32 (PST)
Robert E. Womack Moore
moorob4@aol.com
N/A

Congratulations to cousin Lee Ann Womack. Three CMA awards this time!
I hope many more awards are in her future. Bob Moore


Saturday, November 19, 2005 at 00:02:42 (PST)
LaVonne (Riley) Hudson
lavonne.hudson@worldnet.att.net

My grandmother was Mary Melissa Moore. She married Pitts Riley. Her sister Eudora Moore married Levi Womack on November 6, 1887. Eudora was born in Booneville, Arkansas in 1868 and died in Booneville in 1948. I have Levi being born in Arkansas in 1860. I do not have his date of death or place of burial. If you have any information about Eudora and Levi Womack I would appreciate receiving it. Thanks


Saturday, November 19, 2005 at 00:04:48 (PST)
LaVonne (Riley) Hudson
lavonne.hudson@worldnet.att.net

My grandmother was Mary Melissa Moore. She married Pitts Riley. Her sister Eudora Moore married Levi Womack on November 6, 1887. Eudora was born in Booneville, Arkansas in 1868 and died in Booneville in 1948. I have Levi being born in Arkansas in 1860. I do not have his date of death or place of burial. If you have any information about Eudora and Levi Womack I would appreciate receiving it. Thanks


Saturday, November 19, 2005 at 10:23:03 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

LaVonne,

Levi Womack was the son of Josiah C. C. Womack, b. ca. 1829 Jackson Co., AL d. 12 May 1890, Driggs, Logan Co., AR, and Mary Ann Frost, b. 1835 Perry Co., AL, dau. of Jacob W. Frost and Elizabeth Corley. Mary Ann died Mar 1870 Logan (then Johnson) Co., AR of Pneumonia. We really have no proof of Josiah's parents, but feel certain he was the grandson of Comfort and Josiah Womack. He is buried in Center Point Cemetery near Magazine, AR. When this cemetery was abstracted in 1999, there was a marker for him: C. C. Womack birth ? d. 1890.

Please get in touch and I will give you the information on the spouses of Josiah's children.

Beth


Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 00:42:06 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

In order to clear up Josiah C. C. Womack's wives here's a Post Note:

Mary Ann Frost was his first wife as evidence by the 1860 census Johnson Co., AR. Mary Ann Frost moved to AR with her parents from Tishomingo Co., MS. The 1860 census shows Josiah's oldest child's birth place as MS.

1870 ARKANSAS MORTALITY SCHEDULE
Womac, Mary A. (County-Johnson) age 30 Female died Mar born AL Pneumonia

Logan Co. was a part of Johnson Co. until 1871.


Nancy J. Unknown was Josiah C.C. Womack's 2nd wife on the the 1880 Logan Co., AR census. He is apparently a widower on the 1870. After Josiah died in 1890, Nancy took some of Josiah's family to OK. I don't know Nancy J.'s maiden name, but I'll bet's she's the Nancy McIntire in Jacob and Elizabeth Frost's HH on the 1870 Franklin Co., AR census.

1900 ITER CHICKASAW TWP 9 S RANGE 9 E (CARTER CO., OKLAHOMA)
Nancy J. Womack, age 57 Jan 1843 AR VA TN
Mary E. Womack, age 20 May 1880 AR AL AR ****LINA ON THE 1880 CENSUS
Arthur V. Womack, age 18 Jul 1886 AR AL AR
Jesse L. Womack, age 23 Mar 1877 AR AL AR
Belle Womack, age 20 Sep 1879 TX MO MO Dau-in-law

Note Jesse L. and Lina's ages on the 1880 census. Lina was probably Liza.

J. C. C. WOMACK Self M Male W 51 AL Farmer NC NC
N. J. WOMACK Wife M Female W 36 AR Keeping House ***b. ca. 1844
Levi F. WOMACK Son S Male W 19 AR Work On Farm AL AR
J. B. WOMACK Son S Male W 17 AR Work On Farm AL AR
S. A. WOMACK Son S Male W 11 AR AL AR
Geo. J. WOMACK Son S Male W 4 AR AL AR
Jesse L. WOMACK Son S Male W 2 AR AL AR
Lina WOMACK Dau S Female W 1M AR AL AR (MARY ON 1880)

As I said before, Josiah's parents are unknown, but on Robert Burke's web page, he addressed the descedants of Comfort and Josiah, some of whom were in Jackson Co., AL.


Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 11:15:16 (PST)
teodorik
teo10@abv.bg

I'm known! Yeeeeeeahh yeeeeeeeah! O! O! O! .. . . . .. . I'm known! Yeaaaaah Yeaaaah! O! O! O!


Monday, November 21, 2005 at 10:25:43 (PST)
royce gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet dot net

LaVonne - Eudora Moore Womack and a son Opie are buried at the Oak Hill Cem. in Booneville. I have a picture of their headstones on my other computer. There are a few other Womacks there too.


Monday, November 21, 2005 at 14:57:51 (PST)
Jodi
socialworker98@gmail.com

I need to find a copy of a book written by Helen Ring Womack or find a way to get in touch with Mrs. Womack. She had written my father one day in hearing that we were related and mentioned the book Richard Bartlett: From Maine to Dixieland. I would really like to obtain a copy of this book, so if anyone knows where I can get a copy or get in contact with Mrs. Womack, please let me know.


Monday, November 21, 2005 at 23:07:50 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

Womack, Helen Ring

Richard Bartlett, from Maine to Dixieland


1984; Wolfe City, TX; Henington Publishing Co.


Includes:
Burroghs, Coffman, Dow, Hooland, Mayfield, Wilks, Womack, and related families.


LDS Call No:
BOOK AREA 929.273 B284w



Womack, Helen Ring

The Womack Trail, from Virginia to Texas


1988; Wolfe City, TX; Henington Publishing Co.


Includes:
Brown, Burson, Gilpin, Carney, Clevenger, Daniel, Henry, Hollingsworth, Pearcy, and related families.


LDS Call No:
BOOK AREA 929.273 W84wh


Thursday, November 24, 2005 at 13:44:43 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE


Saturday, November 26, 2005 at 10:36:11 (PST)
Susan (Womack) Owens
lowens22@tampabay.rr.com

Happy Holidays all...

Looking for help on finding information on the following Etowah County, Alabama Womack family:

Jesse S. Womack was born on 7 Mar 1879 in Alabama, died on 7 Nov 1945
in Etowah County, Alabama at age 66, and was buried in Carnes Chapel
Cemetery, Etowah County, Alabama.

1920 Census Etowah County, AL Precinct 29 Alabama City

Wommack, Jesse S. Head, 40, AL, US, US, laborer, Saw Mill
Wommack, Kate, 43, AL, AL, AL, spooler, Cotton Mill
Wommack, Travis J., son, 18, doffer, Cotton Mill
Wommack, Minnie, 15, daughter, spooler, Cotton Mill
Wommack, Jessie R., 13, daughter
Wommack, Rex W., 11, son

Jesse married Kate Walker, daughter of John Adam Edgar Walker and Mary
Ellen Holliday, on 19 Dec 1900 in Etowah County, Alabama. Kate was born
on 27 Jun 1876 in Alabama, died on 18 Nov 1924 in Etowah County, Alabama
at age 48, and was buried in Carnes Chapel Cemetery, Etowah County, Alabama.

Children from this marriage were:

1 M i. Travis "Red" Julian Womack was born on 12 Oct 1901, died in
Jan 1982 in Etowah County, Alabama at age 80, and was
buried in Rainbow Memorial Gardens, Rainbow City, Etowah
County, Alabama.
2 F ii. Minnie Bell Womack was born about 1904.
3 F iii. Jessie R. (female)Womack was born about 1907.
4 M iv. Rex Willard Womack was born on 8 Jul 1908 and died in Nov
1966 in Alabama at age 58.

Second Generation (Children)

1. Travis "Red" Julian Womack was born on 12 Oct 1901, died in Jan
1982 in Etowah County, Alabama at age 80, and was buried in Rainbow
Memorial Gardens, Rainbow City, Etowah County, Alabama.

Travis married Mildred Appleton King, daughter of Unknown King and Unknown, in Etowah County, Alabama. Mildred was born on 15 Mar 1910,
died in Jan 1972 in Etowah County, Alabama at age 61, and was buried in Rainbow Memorial Gardens, Rainbow City, Etowah County, Alabama.

(1910 Census, Attalla, Etowah County)
Womack, T. A., 56, GA, GA, AL Farmer (jan 1854)
Womack, C.S., 55, AL, U.S., GA (aug 1856)

Three houses down:

Womack, J. S. , 31, AL, AL, GA, Sawmill Operator (1878)
Womack, Hate (Kate?), 33, AL, AL, AL (1876)
Womack, Travis, 8 (1901)
Womack, Minnie, 6 (1904)
Womack, Jessie (female), 4 (1907)
Womack, Willard, 2 (1908)

Next House:

Womack, J.W., 50, AL, GA, GA, Sawmill Operator (1860)
Womack, Jennie, 40, wife (1870)
Womack, Lizzie?, 12 (1898)
Womack, ? (Geneva?) daughter, 10 (1900)

2. Minnie Bell Womack was born about 1904.

3. Jessie R. Womack (female) was born about 1907.

4. Rex Willard Womack was born on 8 Jul 1908 and died in Nov 1966 in
Alabama at age 58.

Travis Julian Womack (born Oct 1901) is my grandfather. Any info on his ancestors or siblings would be appreciated.

Susan Owens
Holiday, Florida



Saturday, November 26, 2005 at 14:47:15 (PST)
LaVonne (Riley) Hudson
lavonne.hudson@worldnet.att.net

I have tried answer royce gibson @frontier.net and my message came back because of a wrong address. I would like to send a message to him


Saturday, November 26, 2005 at 18:32:17 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

LaVonne,

Royce monitors this web page. I feel sure he will see your post.


Sunday, November 27, 2005 at 09:37:31 (PST)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

Lavonne I sent you an email - you just didn't have enough nets on the address


Monday, November 28, 2005 at 07:47:05 (PST)
Allison S. Lord
aslord@barmg.com

My grandfather is William Womack, son of John Lamar Womack, Sr. of Decatur Ga. I am looking to connect with any of my family. :-) I've never met any of my g father's family and would like to research my heritage. Thanks :-)

write please.
aslord@barmg.com


Thursday, December 01, 2005 at 03:35:47 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

I found this in case anyone needs it

OLIVER C. WOMACK was born November 12, 1812, in Rutherford County, N.C. In November, 1815, the family came to Union County, Ky., where the father died about 1827. Oliver C. then commenced to learn the carpenter trade, which he followed about four years. He then took up the blacksmith trade and followed that about eighteen years; since that time he has been engaged in farming. In 1861, he came to his present farm, which consists of 164 acres with about ninety-six acres in cultivation. He was married, August 9, 1832 to Easter Mooney, of Hopkins County; she died in 1844, leaving five children - two sons and three daughters. His second marriage was in 1846 to Mrs. Wagner of Hopkins County, who died in 1852, leaving two children - one son and one daughter. His third marriage was in 1860 to Elizabeth J. Wilson, of Webster County. This union has been blessed with six children, of whom four are living, two sons and two daughters. Mr. Womack is a life-long member of the Cumberland Presbyterian Church.


Saturday, December 03, 2005 at 05:10:48 (PST)
B Womack
scorpioz@dtccom.net

I just wanted to say hello to all you Womack's. I'm a Tennessee Womack. We have our branch worked out to about 1655 I think it is. Good luck to all those searching and Merry Christmas.


Saturday, December 03, 2005 at 05:16:36 (PST)
B Womack
scorpioz@dtccom.net

Does anyone have info on a Honey Melissa Womack? She was a Cherokee indian woman left for dead in Cannon co. Tn on the trail of tears. She was found and nursed back to health by Robert Renolds Womack.


Saturday, December 03, 2005 at 17:20:02 (PST)
Joseph Womack
dawgy1176@yahoo.com

Hello my name is Joe, I am looking for family tree help. I live in Fulton, Missouri. Callaway county area. The farthest I can Go back is my grandfather, Jackie Womack. Who past 2years ago. I don't have alot to go on. Will some one please give me a hand?


Sunday, December 04, 2005 at 16:03:56 (PST)
Richmond Stanfield Frederick, Jr.
rfrederi2@comcast.net
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncccha/

Greetings:

Those interested in the Womack family of Caswell County should view the following resources:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncccha/
http://ncccha.blogspot.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ncccha/

Please note that I recently posted to the Caswell County Historical Association website a census of the Yancey family cemetery, which includes a several Womack graves. See: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncccha/memoranda/cemeteries/yanceyfamilycemetery/yanceyfamilycemetery.html

Best personal regards.

Rick Frederick
CCHA Webmaster


Tuesday, December 06, 2005 at 04:57:13 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

For all of us who are christians and others also please read this and go to www.afa.net to sign the petition

Newdow Files Suit to Take National Motto Off Currency
Michael Newdow, who has already filed a suit to take "under God" out of the Pledge of Allegiance, is now suing to remove our national motto from our currency.

Newdow told the ACLU of Oklahoma that the national motto on U.S. currency is a violation of the separation of church and state. He is offended because he is an atheist. He wants to use the Federal courts to make his atheism the official religion of America.

Newdow filed in the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals which recently ruled that judges, not parents, have the final say in what will be taught school children concerning sex education. These same liberal judges supported Newdow and ruled that the phrase "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance was unconstitutional. That suit was dismissed due to a technicality so Newdow sued again.

The 9th U.S. Circuit is expected to agree with Newdow. The case will then go to the U.S. Supreme Court for final action.

Help us secure one million signatures on the petition below to stop Newdow. Remember that only one person-Madalyn Murray O'Hair-was able to get prayer in schools banned. We must not allow one person-Newdow-to get our national motto removed from our currency by our silence.

During the last session of Congress, Representative Chip Pickering introduced a constitutional amendment to guarantee the right to use and recite the motto and the Pledge of Allegiance. Your petition will encourage Rep. Pickering to re-introduce his constitutional amendment in the present session of Congress and send a message to the liberal judges of the 9th U.S. Circuit.


Thursday, December 08, 2005 at 18:57:35 (PST)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

I thought our National Motto was "E Pluribus Unum" (the banner in the Eagles beak on the dollar bill or is it "Novus Ordo Seclorium" - the banner under the pyramid on the dollar bill - which are the front and back of the "SEAL of the US".

And for the history buff (which I hope we all are) - the phrase "Under God" was not added to the pledge until the 1950's during the McCarthy Red Scare


Thursday, December 08, 2005 at 19:17:56 (PST)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

And before I get lots of flames on the previous message - my reason for being on this site is searching for my history - reguardless of what it might turn up.

I don't care what my ancestors believed but I want to know what that was. They could have sacraficed chickens to the full moon for all I care. There are other places on the internet to post your religious, sexual, racial and political opinions - do that. This forum is for exploring all things Womack. Let's do that.


Thursday, December 08, 2005 at 23:28:43 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

Mind your own business don't like what I post don't read it FOR THE FELLOW CHRISTIANS ON THIS SIGHT TAKE A STAND FOR OUR RIGHTS AS CHRISTIANS BECAUSE LONG DEAD WOMACKS WON'T GET ANY OF US TO HEAVEN I HAVE A RIGHT AS A CHRISTIAN TO LET FELLOW CHRISTIANS KNOW ABOUT WHAT RIGHTS ARE BEING TAKEN FROM US AS CHRISTIANS

MATTHEW 24:14

AND THIS GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM SHALL BE PREACHED IN ALL THE WORLD FOR A WITNESS UNTO ALL NATIONS; AND THEN SHALL THE END COME

GOD BLESS THE BELIEVERS


Thursday, December 08, 2005 at 23:30:40 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

OH AND THE BEST FAMILY HISTORY/GENEALOGY EVER WRITTEN IS WRITTEN IN THE HOLY BIBLE WHERE ALL OUR ANCESTORS BEGAN A TIME WHERE THE WOMACKS WEREN'T BORN YET


Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 18:14:39 (PST)
Denise Kneifel
DeniseK322@aol.com

Just wanted to wish you all a MERRY CHRISTMAS...Happy holidays all....


Monday, December 12, 2005 at 13:21:14 (PST)
Kim Womack
chocgirl37@sbcglobal.net

Hi, my name is Kimberley Lorraine Womack, my father is Joseph Howard Womack. He married Emma Ghookassian in Tehran, Iran. My parents divorced when I was 3 years old. I am 38 years old. Looking to find my geneology. Can anyone of you help me. Really don't know much about the Womack history. My dad was the youngest of 14, 10 boys and 4 girls.

Thanks and Have A Merry Christmas,
Blessing,
Kim


Monday, December 12, 2005 at 19:31:00 (PST)
susan
sueshep1@verizon.net

I am looking for information about Jefferson Womack. His mother was Mary Womack, and his sister was Lillie Womack. They lived in Halifax, Virginia. Any info on any of them would be greatly appreciated.


Tuesday, December 13, 2005 at 10:18:58 (PST)
kelley
scubadoo01@hotmail.com OR kmallison@drhorton.com
n/a

my ggrandfather, Stuart Womack, ss # 223-72-9445, was born in 1880 and died in 1970, just a year after i was born. at one time he had four sons in the military, including my grandfather, Colvin H. Womack who was married to Ruth Womack. does anyone have any info on Stuart's parents, etc.? i'm just getting started..........thanks and Merry Christmas!

kelley allison


Tuesday, December 13, 2005 at 10:19:58 (PST)
kelley

previous post

forgot to mention that Stuart Womack died in Virginia and his last known address was in Lynchburg where many of my relatives still remain. thank you!


Tuesday, December 13, 2005 at 16:56:55 (PST)
David Womack
womackdave@hotmail.com

hi,
To all you Womack's out there wishing you all a merry christmas from David Womack
Nortahnts UK AGE 41
Partents Terry Henry Herbert womack & Elizibeth (Betty) Womack
PLease contact me via e-mail if you have any news on relatives direct to my family I would be glad to here from you


Wednesday, December 14, 2005 at 08:32:29 (PST)
kelley
scubadoo01@hotmail.com OR kmallison@drhorton.com

thank you to Sam for help getting me started! i really do appreciate the info. there was mention that the womacks in my family line were actually wamacks, but there was also mention that the names were sometimes inaccurate, as was my grandfather's given name, Colvin; sometimes listed as Calvin. anyway, if anyone has any info of a DG Womack (i would need an actual name etc.) born about 1843 in Prince Edward Virginia, that would be great! thanks again to Sam for all of his help! YOU ARE THE BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =0) much love, kelley


Wednesday, December 14, 2005 at 08:59:39 (PST)
kelley
scubadoo01@hotmail.com OR kmallison@drhorton.com

wow, i just found a DG Womack on the Womacks in the Civil War page. Same age and in Prince Edward Co., Virginia! this is so cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I imagine he is my gg-grandfather! they even described him and he sounds a lot like my grandfather!


Wednesday, December 14, 2005 at 14:17:41 (PST)
kelley
scubadoo01@hotmail.com OR kmallison@drhorton.com

wow. my gg-grandfather, DG Womack, was one of the Hampden-Sydney boys, G company of the 20th infantry:

"Eight separate military companies (usually of a hundred men) went off to war from the county, and in some cases these companies included black servants. One of the infantry companies, "The Hampden-Sydney Boys," was composed entirely of college and seminary students, and it was the first college-boy unit on either side‹Blue or Gray‹to come under fire in the war."


Wednesday, December 14, 2005 at 15:43:08 (PST)
Doretta Noland
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Susan --- Jeff Womack is my husband's direct line. Jeff is his great-grandfather through his daughter Lottie Lee. My husband's great-grandmother was Jeff's 2nd wife Lucy Taylor Sneed. I am happy to see somebody else is working on this bunch of Womacks. How are you connected? I will gladly share what little I have collected. Doretta


Wednesday, December 14, 2005 at 16:17:25 (PST)
kelley
scubadoo01@hotmail.com OR kmallison@drhorton.com

okay, the Hampden-Sydney boys were under Lt. Col John Pegram, who surrendered to McClellan in the battle of Rich Mountain in 1861. this is so much fun!


Friday, December 16, 2005 at 05:31:26 (PST)
david autry
dautry428@sbcglobal.net

Royce - well said.

From the webmaster:

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Saturday, December 17, 2005 at 02:00:52 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

BRINGIT ON WEBMASTER AND ROYCE I DON'T CARE


Saturday, December 17, 2005 at 02:06:16 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

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Saturday, December 17, 2005 at 05:40:29 (PST)
Joanne Shepard Gage
joseys@hotmail.com

HECK JOHN HENRY 1815-1882? He came to FLORIDA and joined the Mounted militia to protect the whites from the Indians in 1835 he applied for 160 acres in Hawthorne area of FLORIDA on 1842, in 1838 he married in Duval county FL to Amelia Anne Hall he was very good friends with Captian Fances Calvin Morgan Bogges the writer of the book called "Veteran of Four Wars" who was married to the sister of Amelia Hall , Margerate "Maggie" Hall Bogges, also his brother in law, William Ray Hall and there mother and fatehr John Hall who died at Ft Heilman Florida on the banks of the Black River in Jacksonville Florida, John Halle died at the Ft Heilman in 1837 of phynomia. JOHN HENRY HECK was a Captian when John Hall died in 1837, he married his daughter in 1838( Amelia Anne Hall), He went to Georgia in 188 and jointed to 3rd artillery U.S.Army as a Sargent, Ulissis S Grant, Robert E Lee, Garland Vinton, Satterlee, and Martin Burke, fought the Mexicans at the battle of Charabusco in 1847. He might have married a MRS D.E. WEBB in 1852 in Jackson county Arkansas and had a child with her a divorce in St Clair County ILL in 1858 is recorded. 1862 he was sentanced to life for manslaughter in Washington county Ill Joliet prison states he was born in the alantic ocean a physcian, 47 years old no parents or family. I need some help finding out who he killed just pryor to the charge date sept 17 1862 1869 he was pardoned he went to St Louis MO for a few months then moved to Evansville Indiana in 1870 untill 1876, I lost him I cant find for sure where or when he died or who his parents really were, there was a CHARLES HECK who was killed in the battle with the indians and Captian DADE IN FLORIDA 1835,
Joanne Shepard Gage
joseys hotmail.com


Saturday, December 17, 2005 at 05:49:52 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

COUNTIES WITH WOMACK AND VARIATIONS HERE IS ROYCE AND WEBMASTER SOME WOMACK HISTORY

COUNTIES A-J

K-W IS ALL THAT IS LEFT TO CHECK
KNOX-WILSON COUNTIES

1820 Federal Census Bedford County, Tennessee
WOMMACK Alexr. 38 30 pg27.txt
WOMMACK David 38 29 pg27.txt
WOMMACK Hawkins 39 3 pg39.txt
WOMMACK Henry 23 6 pg14.txt
WOMMACK Josiah 39 1 pg39.txt
WOMMACK Michael 38 28 pg27.txt
WOMMACK William 38 31 pg27.txt

Free White | | Slaves | Free Colored | | Male | Female | | Male | Female | Male | Female | | 0 10 16 16 26 45 | 0 10 16 26 45 | | 0 10 26 45 | 0 10 26 45 | 0 14 26 45 | 0 14 26 45 | No | LINE | Firstname Lastname | 10 16 18 26 45 . | 10 16 26 45 . | Fo | Agri Co Man | 14 26 45 . | 14 26 45 . | 14 26 45 . | 14 26 45 . | Ta | SNDX | Remarks

28 | Michael WOMMACK | 1 0 0 2 0 1 | 1 0 1 1 1 | 0 | 2 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 | W520 | 29 |
David WOMMACK | 2 1 0 0 0 1 | 0 2 1 1 3 | 0 | 2 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 | W520 | 30 |
Alexr. WOMMACK | 1 1 0 0 1 0 | 1 0 1 1 1 | 0 | 1 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 | W520 | 31 |
William WOMMACK | 2 1 0 0 0 3 | 0 1 2 0 1 | 0 | 1 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 | W520 |
1 | Josiah WOMMACK | 2 0 1 1 0 1 | 1 0 2 2 0 | 0 | 1 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 | W520 |
3 | Hawkins WOMMACK | 1 0 2 2 0 0 | 1 0 1 0 1 | 0 | 2 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 | W520 |
6 | Henry WOMMACK | 2 2 1 1 1 0 | 1 0 2 1 0 | 0 | 2 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 | 0 | W520 |

Andrew Patterson's Company - William Metcalf's 1st West Tennessee Militia
Mustered in on 13 November 1814
Mustered out 13 May 1815
Name and Rank Enlisted Mustered Out Comments
William Wamack, Pvt. " 13/05/1815
Mahel Wamack, Pvt.

Blount, TN 1850 Federal Census
73B 13 WARNACK Elizab. 18 Ten pg0065a.txt
73B 12 WARNACK Wm. 20 Ten pg0065a.txt
CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE or TERRITORY: TN COUNTY: Blount DIVISION: The 9th Civil District REEL NO: M432-871 PAGE NO: 73B REFERENCE: Enumerated on the 13th day of Nov, 1850 by B M Russell ========================================================================================================================= LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. VAL. BIRTHPLACE MRD. SCH. R/W DDB
12 1053 1053 WARNACK Wm. 20 M Tailor Ten
13 1053 1053 WARNACK Elizab. 18 F Ten

BLOUNT COUNTY, TENNESSEE MARRIAGES
WAMACK, Wm C marr. BARNES, Elizabeth on 26-NOV-1840
WORMACK, Charles marr. FIELDS, Nancy on 26-SEP-1804

CAMPBELL COUNTY, TN - DEEDS - Deed Book D 1820-1826 ----¤¤¤---- Deed Book D 1820-1826 Deed Book Vol. “D” Campbell County, Tennessee 1820 – 1826
Womacks Creek; 287, 335

CANNON COUNTY, TN - CENSUS - 1850 Census Index
WARMICK 369A
WARNOCK 392A
WOMACK 440B
WOMIC 368B

CANNON COUNTY, TN - COURT - Index of County Court Clerk Settlements, Administrators' Exec. & Guardianships
JS Wamack Settlement 53, 137
Wamack Martha To Years support Page 380

CANNON COUNTY, TN - VITALS - Marriages, Mar 1838 to Feb 1850
Womack, Abram to Wood, Elizabeth...September 10, 1845...September 10, 1845 Womack, William to Romines, Elenear...April 9, 1847...April 11, 1847

CARROLL COUNTY TN - CENSUS - The 1840 Census of Carroll County TN
Womack, Josiah 58 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 1 0 0

CLAIBORNE COUNTY, TN - MILITARY - Muster Roll, Company K, 34th Tennessee Infantry ----¤¤¤---- The 34th Tennessee Infantry (4th Confederate Regular Army) Company K
Wamack, Josiah D

COFFEE COUNTY, TN - CEMETERIES - Womack Cemetery
Mary A. Womack May 22, 1791 June 18, 1880

Crockett, TN 1880 Federal Census
261A 3 Warmach H. T. 20 TN pg0261a.txt 154B 5 Warmath Bettie 9 TN pg0154a.txt 154A 48 Warmath C. 41 TN pg0154a.txt 154B 6 Warmath Charlie A. 4 TN pg0154a.txt 154B 2 Warmath Della 15 TN pg0154a.txt 154A 11 Warmath E. 75 TN pg0154a.txt 154B 4 Warmath Ella 11 TN pg0154a.txt 154A 50 Warmath J. H. 20 TN pg0154a.txt 154B 7 Warmath J. M. 4/12 TN pg0154a.txt 154B 1 Warmath J. W. 19 TN pg0154a.txt 261B 41 Warmath Lucy 26 TN pg0261a.txt 261B 39 Warmath M. W. 53 TN pg0261a.txt
261B 42 Warmath M. W. 23 TN pg0261a.txt 261B 40 Warmath Martha 53 TN pg0261a.txt 154A 49 Warmath Mary J. 41 TN pg0154a.txt 261B 43 Warmath Sallie 16 TN pg0261a.txt 154B 3 Warmath Tom C. 13 TN pg0154a.txt

CROCKETT COUNTY, TN - MARRIAGES - July 1872 - Dec 1899
Warmoth, Bettie Cathey, Vivian A. (m) 26 Oct 1887
Warmoth, Della Hefley, W. R. 17 Jan 1885
Warmoth, J. H. Brooks, Anna 18 Sep 1884
Warmoth, M. Ella Chambers, R. T. 30 Mar 1893
Warmoth, Ned (Col) Bond, Mat (Col) (f) 23 Aug 1883
Warmoth, Sallie Williams, W. C. 3 Dec 1882
Warmuth, J. F. Almquist, Beulah Benton 8 Sep 1897
Warmuth, Nathan (Col) Smith, Alice 31 Mar 1896 (license- not executed)

FRANKLIN COUNTY, TN - CENSUS - 1850 Census Index
WAMACK 75A

FRANKLIN COUNTY, TN - CENSUS - 1812 Tax List
Womack, James*
Womack, Jonah*

GIBSON COUNTY, TN - Census - 1850 Census Index
WAMMUCK 199A
WARMOTH 214B

GIBSON COUNTY, TENNESSEE MARRIAGES
WARMACK, Benjamin marr. ARNOLD, Frances C on 04-SEP-1846
WARMACK, Burwell marr. COOK, Avy on 09-MAY-1840
WARMATH, Micajah W marr. EUDALEY, Martha on 23-AUG-1850
WARMATH, Thos D marr. GREEN, Harrett M on 20-SEP-1854
WOMACK, Daniel marr. FAWBESS, Soniza C on 20-AUG-1849
WOMACK, Hezekiah marr. HUTCHENS, Caroline N on 18-NOV-1849
WORMACK, Richard marr. BILLINGSLEY, Mary L on 09-JAN-1847
WORMACK, Wm marr. BILLINGSLEY, Adaline E on 18-JUL-1850

GRUNDY COUNTY, TN - CENSUS - 1850 Census Index
WOMMAC 352A

Grundy, TN 1860 Federal Census
450a 16 Womack Charles W 22 Alabama pg0444a.txt
CENSUS YR: 1860 TERRITORY: TN COUNTY: Grundy DIVISION: District No. 9 REEL NO: 653-1252 PAGE NO: 450a REFERENCE: Enumerated on the 1st day of Sept 1860 by R B Roberts =================================================================================================================================== LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. REAL VAL. PERS VAL. BIRTHPLACE MRD. SCH. R/W DDB
16 392 392 Womack Charles W 22 M Clerk/Salesman Alabama

HARDEMAN COUNTY, TN - CENSUS - 1830 Census Index
WORMACK 381
HARDEMAN COUNTY, TN - CENSUS - 1840 Census Index
WAMMACK 308
HARDEMAN COUNTY, TN - CENSUS - 1850 Census Index
WARMACK 105A

HARDEMAN COUNTY, TN - VITALS - Marriage Records, 1824-1950
Wamack J D Jr. Nov 1895 Lutrell J E
Wammack A M Dec 1900 Lambeth Cassie
Wammack J D Dec 1904 McIntire F M M
Warmack John Nov 1865 Whitby Francis P
Warmack S L Jan 1885 Leathers F D
Womack, Henry Brookram, Mary Sep 1835
Womack, J.C. Glass, C.E. Sep 1890
Wormack, William M. Curry, Charlotte Dec 1902

HARDIN COUNTY, TN - CENSUS - 1850 Census Index
WOMACK 289B
15 66 66 Eoff Squire 34 M Farmer 500 TN
16 66 66 Eoff Siena 31 F TN x
17 66 66 Eoff Wm J 12 M TN
18 66 66 Eoff Mary E 11 F TN
19 66 66 Eoff Dice W 6 F TN
20 66 66 Eoff Eliza J 4 F TN
21 66 66 Eoff James D 1 M TN
22 66 66 Womack David 20 M None TN

HICKMAN COUNTY, TN - CENSUS - 1850 Census Index
WORMACK 57A

HUMPHREYS COUNTY, TN - CENSUS - 1850 Census Index
WOMACK 98B






Tuesday, December 20, 2005 at 11:41:09 (PST)
Chris Mason
mustang@macomb.com

My ggg Grandfather was Adin Mason. Adin married Mary "Polly" Womack in 1806. The got married in Campbell County Virginia. Mary is buried in Scott's Cemetery in Bethal Township, just outside Macomb, Illinois. I am from Macomb, Illinois and have found several of her children are buried in the same cemetery. I am looking for information on Adin and his Parents etc. I believe they lived near Mary's family in Virigina and were close to them. If anybody can be of help I would appreciate it.

Thank
Chris Mason


Saturday, December 24, 2005 at 05:11:35 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Womack Cousins,

With the tree adorned, the bird in the oven and my grandchildren excitedly awaiting St. Nick's visit to our home, I wish for all of you a wonderful holiday season. Thanks to everyone for your help in filling the gaps in our ancestors' families this past year.

Merry Christmas!

Beth


Saturday, December 24, 2005 at 12:38:12 (PST)
Aubrey Womack
ajwoma@att.net

For Sam, Jack, Kim and Beth and all my other Womack relatives:
Thanks for all the help in the past and Jack, much better health in the New Year. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all. From A Trinity Co., Tx. descendant of John Madison (Buck) Womack.


Saturday, December 24, 2005 at 21:16:46 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL


Monday, December 26, 2005 at 16:19:27 (PST)
Johnny
Kasper

Hello All,

I am living in North Yorkshire, UK and am hoping that someone out there has a lead on the orgins of William, the immigrant. While I am here for the next two years, I'd like to do some research. There is another cousin here with me and he thinks that Yorkshire might be the ancesteral home of William. If any one has an idea of what are to start in, please e-mail me. Thanks!

Johnny Kasper
johnny39302@yahoo.com


Wednesday, December 28, 2005 at 11:12:24 (PST)
Ruby Brown
rgracebrown@earthlink.net

I am reaearching Josiah Alday, Rev soldier, of Burke County, GA. My line is through Benjamin Alday, one of his sons. I would like to exchange information with anyone who is researching this family. Thank you.


Wednesday, December 28, 2005 at 11:58:48 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

I am posting this as I feel it is something that needs clarification. And, something I have been partially wrong about in the past:

Dear Mr Womack,

Thank you for your e-mail which has been passed to me as officer in waiting at the College of Arms.

No, all legitimate sons inherit their father's arms under English law. If a man has no sons his daughters (no matter how many there are) become co-heiresses to them and each daughter may pass them on to her children as a quartering in the arms of her husband.

Yours sincerely,

David White
Somerset Herald
College of Arms
Queen Victoria Street
London EC4V 4BT


Friday, December 30, 2005 at 02:51:08 (PST)
Gail Deck
g.deck@insightbb.com

i would like to know more about my womack family - i don't have too much information - most of my womack relatives had died before i was born. my maiden name is sharon "gail" womack - i have three siblings - Thomas Francis, Kathryn Ann and Jeffrey Lynn (deceased). my father was robert everett womack, born on 09/29/1909. he had a sister named wilma and a half-brother named Roland who died in his 40s. (Roland oldest, wilma youngest). my grandfather's name was oscar womack. not sure of his first wife's name (they had 11 children of whom only one survived past the age of 2 (miscarriages, still births, whooping cough) he then married genevieve who had my father and my aunt wilma. oscar died sometime in the early 1950s, prior to my birth. he lived in leadington, missouri at the time of my father's birth. he was a deacon in a church there as well as president of the school board. he and genevieve are both buried in the leadington cemetery. i am some relation to the womacks of Womack, Missouri but am not sure how. there is also a Brotherton connection (not sure if that is through genevieve or oscar) and i also remember a relative with the last name Bible (not sure if that was through marriage) i know this is not much info but i would love to know more. thanks, gail deck at g.deck@insightbb.com


Friday, December 30, 2005 at 09:43:31 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Gail,

I'm merely "suggesting" the following lineages, which I have abstracted from the research of others, and can't vouch for their work. Let's ask the Womack researchers on WGN for corrections, especially the early lines. It looks as if you could descend from William Womack and Mary Jane Allen in three ways.

If you would care to, you can look at the research on Rootsweb's World Connect for your grandfather, Oscar Benton Womack, who married 2nd Genevieve Constance Brotherton. Rosa Belle St. Gemme was his first wife, and the mother of Oscar Roland Womack. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi

Oscar Benton Womack
Robert Benton Womack
William R. Womack m. 3rd *Lucy Womack
William Womack m. Rebecca Parker
Thomas Womack m. Sarah Owens
John Womack m. Mary Akin
Abraham Womack, Jr. m. Elizabeth Stubblefield
Abraham Womack m. Sarah Worsham
William Womack m. Mary Jane Allen

Oscar Benton Womack
Robert Benton Womack
*Lucy Womack m. William R. Womack
William "Buck" Womack m. Sarah McBee
William Womack m. **Lucinda "Lucy" Womack
Abraham Womack, Jr. m. Elizabeth Stubblefield
Abraham Womack m. 1st Elizabeth
Thomas Womack m. Mary Farley
Abraham Womack m. Sarah Worsham
William Womack m. Mary Jane Allen

Oscar Benton Womack
Robert Benton Womack
*Lucy Womack m. William R. Womack
William "Buck" Womack m. Sarah McBee
**Lucinda "Lucy" Womack, m. William Womack
Thomas Womack m. Louvisa Rice
Abraham Womack and relationship with Ann Blanton
Thomas Womack m. Mary Farley
Abraham Womack m. Sarah Worsham
William Womack m. Mary Jane Allen


Friday, December 30, 2005 at 11:21:25 (PST)
Doretta Noland
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Teresa -Yes! You and my husband are of the same bunch of Womacks. I also agree that this bunch of Womacks are a hard bunch to track. I hope that other researchers can add imput or proof to what follows. Teresa, your Zora and Bradshaw are not siblings of Jefferson Davis Womack. They seem to be distant cousins. Jeff's mother was Mary C Womack who never married. The only sibling Jeff had was Lillie Womack. Zora and Bradshaw's father was William R Womack who married Elizabeth Ann Wilmouth and William R Womack was son of Henry Womack and Susan. Now Mary C Womack's father was Miles Womack who married Frances Hawkins. It is thought that Henry and Miles Womack were brothers and sons of William Womack and Rebecca. My husband's Jefferson Davis Womack's father is thought to be Littlejohn S McCargo. I am trying to figure out who that William McCargo you mentioned is. He has to be some kin. My husband's Jeff is buried somewhere in Halifax Co VA, but I don't know for sure where. Jeff did receive some land from his father which maybe had been in the McCargo family. I know that Littlejohn S McCargo did buy land from his father just before his father's death. Teresa, I don't know if that JDW grave you mentioned is my husband's Jeff or if it is someone else. Do you know, or can anyone tell us the history of that farm? Jeff could have also and most likely did receive land from his mother mary C Womack, but I don't know for sure. Anyway, Jeff's 2nd wife, Lucy Taylor Sneed, married after Jeff's death to an Ednondson. I have been told that after Jeff's death, that any land that Jeff had owned went under Edmondson's control. My husband says that when he was very, very young, he remembers a house that seem to have a large porch. He thinks this was maybe Lucy's place of residence, but is not sure. Lottie Lee Womack, my husband's grandmother, was Jeff's and Lucy's daughter. Lottie's first husband was a Compton and I have been woundering if William R Womack's sister, Roberta Louise, could have married a Thomas Compton and be some connection. If there is some connection between them and Lottie's husband, then they are maybe my husband's ancestors also. Oh, what a web we weave. Doretta


Friday, December 30, 2005 at 22:20:26 (PST)
Teresa Moore
resa1207@yahoo.com

Doretta, You don't know how excited I got when I saw your post. FINALLY someone else is looking for these people! I went back and looked at some of my records of when I went to that farm in Halifax last year. I found the headstone for J.D. Womack dated March 31, 1858 to Feb. 7, 1918. There were two footmarkers, one with JDW and another for JAW (no headstone for JAW) The other headstone was for Hugh William McCargo 1815 -1845. This little graveyard is almost in the back yard of the people that live there. The house they live in is not a very old place. But I didnt go and explore the whole farm. They are very nice people. There was another graveyard I found on a back road close to that one but it is in the woods and it is so grown up. I only looked at some of the larger stones, that I could see from the road. It was tooo snakey to walk in there. Another thing I wanted to mention was my grandfather had a brother named Letcher Miles. Miles is an unusual name and I know they have to be related to your Miles to have that name. I will keep looking back through my notes to see if I can find something else for you. One more thing. How did you put Willam and Henry together as father and son? I have marriage licenses but I didnt have any concrete info. Again, I am so happy to have another person looking for this line. Thanks, Teresa


Saturday, December 31, 2005 at 08:13:21 (PST)
TIM ANDREW WOMACK
CLOWNBOY2@NETZERO.COM

TO ALL MY COUSINS.......MAY GOD GRANT EACH OF Y'ALL A VERY HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR..........FROM FLAGSTAFF,AZ. TAW


Saturday, December 31, 2005 at 13:23:16 (PST)
Doretta Noland
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Teresa, what a great gift. I believe you have most likely found Jefferson Davis Womack's grave. Did you take pictures? The birth date of March 31, 1858 fits. I know from census records that Jeff was born about 1858. (Can you name creeks, a road or crossroad. Is the airfield and train tracks nearby? My husband says that Lucy lived near an airfield and he thinks that on her place there was a spring with a springhouse over it.) My source for the following data is from McCARGO PAPERS, WILLS & ADMINISTRATIONS compiled by Tom McCargo. Hugh Williams McCargo 1815-1845 was a brother to Jeff's father, Littlejohn S McCargo. Littlejohn S McCargo's will of 7 May 1887 was proven in Halifax Co VA. He gave 1/2 of his property to Jeff and the other 1/2 to Lillie Hudson, Jeff's sister. In that will it is stated that Mary C Womack, Jeff's mother is dec'd. (I don't know where she is buried. Could it be in the cemetary up the road?) Anyway, Littlejohn S McCargo bought two tracts of land in Halifax Co from his father in Jan 1855. (Littlejohn McCargo Sr died 23 March 1856 Charlotte Co VA). These land tracts were given to Sr's wife Elizabeth Williams Callicott in loan for her lifetime by her brother William Hubbard Callicott in his will of 18 Sept 1844 Charlotte Co. Elizabeth died Dec 1854 Charlotte Co. The land was to go to all her children at her death. There was a lawsuit in Halifax Co which involved this land. Depositions were taken there in March 1860 and also from Wm Bacon in Charlott Co in April 1860. Now this land in Halifax Co involved a tract with a dwelling house on it and was on Difficult Creek. The other tract was on Hazel Branch and was called the Terrapin tract. (Either one tract was about 80 acres or else both tracts equaled about 80 acres. I can't tell since I don't have the original docs. to read.) Now this farm where you found the graves could b some of the land that was in that lawsuit. I don't know , but i just have a feeling that it is. That grave marker for JAW has me stumped. I know that Lucy & Jeff had two issue born before Lottie and they died as infants. But their names don't match the letters JAW. Lottie's younger brother John Henry Womack died about age 68. I don't know where he is buried, but that JAW marker is most likely NOT for him. If Jeff and 1st wife, Mary Hutson/Hudson had issue that didn't survive, I don't know of any. I don't have any names. Do you have any ideas who JAW could be? I don't have any proof that Miles & Henry are brothers and sons of William Womack. Wish I did have proof. That data is from WGN and as far as I know is still being worked on for proof. Do any of you other researchers out there have any input or proof on anything I have above mentioned? Doretta


Sunday, January 01, 2006 at 09:54:39 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

Happy New Year every1


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Monday, January 02, 2006 at 15:30:41 (PST)
Teresa Womack Moore
resa1207@yahoo.com

Doretta,
I do remember that the farm is near Difficult Creek, and I think there is an airfield nearby. I did take pictures that day but I seem to have lost the roll before I had them developed. Sounds like the Womack luck HuH? If you live near Halifax Co.,give Mr. Seamster a call. He is a very nice man. He may know more about the history of the farm. I know he didnt have any problem with us coming over to look around. He wasnt there when we went, so I didnt get a chance to ask him any questions. Good Luck and Happy New Year. Maybe 2006 will be the year you can finish putting the puzzle together!
Teresa


Monday, January 02, 2006 at 15:34:28 (PST)
Doretta Noland
DREEC@EKNS.NET

I am beginning 2006 right. Already making corections. I stated in my former posting that Littlejohn S McCargo's will was written 7 May 1887. That is incorrect. It was written 7 May 1889. The corection is important because it mentions Mary C Womack, Jefferson Womack and Lillie Womack Hudson. Doretta


Monday, January 02, 2006 at 17:25:36 (PST)
Paul N. Womack
paulwomack11@msn.com

In the timbered hills just outside of Dixon, Ky is a small "Womack Cemetery". Buried here are Esther Mooney Womack abt 1814-1844(first wife of Oliver Clayton Womack Sr), Oliver Clayton Womack Sr Nov 12, 1812 - Apr 24 1887, Oliver Clayton Womack Jr July 17,1862-Feb 6,1908, and Burney Womack Feb 22, 1894-June 13, 1894. All that to ask, was Burney a girl or a boy?


Monday, January 02, 2006 at 21:15:25 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Just a little tip:
When looking for Womacks in Webster Co KY - In the index, look under Warnack..
The older Oliver C below was listed as O C Warnack in the index; but the actual census showed Wamack---Also, found the same thing in another state - if it hadnt been for the wife and children, I would have missed it...

By the way Paul, He was married 3 times, first to Easter/Esther Mooney;
Then Martha Herron Waggoner[widow of Waggoner], then to Elizabeth J Wilson - and as far as your Burney, I found a few with that name as first or middle; and, they were all males.

And someone has OC Sr listed as the son of a David Womack and Maria Tanner
--this David being a son of Thomas and Louvisa Rice Womack - can anyone verify that to any degree??


Tuesday, January 03, 2006 at 08:58:43 (PST)
Tammy
willys41.1@juno.com

Just a quick note: I was looking thru' a big box of old photographs I inherited and came across a very old postcard. On this postcard is a photo of four Womacks. Their names written on the card are: Jim, Ethel, John and Marion. Do those names ring a bell with anyone? If so, let me know and I'll be happy to scan it and email you a copy of it. Also on the postcard is written in Printers Ink: "Seasons Greetings, from our house to your house." And underneath that, is written by hand: "Love Jim and John Womack." I'm sure these must be kinfolk of mine but the names don't ring a bell with me. I can't figure out who they could have been or how they were related to my Womacks or Boatmans?


Tuesday, January 03, 2006 at 09:27:56 (PST)
Tammy
willys41.1@juno.com

P.S. from Tammy: Don't know if this will help or not, but in the photo on the postcard, Left to right is Jim, Ethel, John, and then Marion. They are standing up outside in the picture in front of some trees. Jim is wearing a Military uniform and is standing next to Ethel who looks to be an older woman. Ethel is standing next to John who is an elderly man in the photo. Marion on the far right is also wearing a Military uniform. I don't recognize their names and/or can't figure out if they were related to me or not. This old postcard photo was apparently given to one of my Boatmans or Womacks, years ago.


Tuesday, January 03, 2006 at 12:48:31 (PST)
sherry womack
sheshe110256@yahoo.com

I am just now starting to research my family ancestry and I am not sure How to begin. My father was Ernest Austin Womack Son of Ernest A Womack-wife Ada(don't have her maiden name but I have heard her family was from texas. I know that I have family in mccomb, ms & I beleive my father was born in tylertown ms. My father had 6 siblings, Gary Elliot Womack., Carl Rex Womack,Jonnie Gilbert Womack,Betty Lou Womack James dOYLE wOMQACK & Marie womack. If anyone can point me in the right direction or offer any help to get me started it would be greatly appreciated


Wednesday, January 04, 2006 at 03:47:34 (PST)
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Wednesday, January 04, 2006 at 11:00:18 (PST)
Jamie
birls@boone.net

Are ideas as to who these girls are and how they are connected to their guardian? Wake Co, NC County Court Minutes: Sept 1772 The Court appointed Nathan Roland Guardian to Lucey and Sarah Womack, Hardy Sanders and Turner Smith Securitys." Thanks!


Wednesday, January 04, 2006 at 12:41:00 (PST)
James Walker Womack
jwomack@charter.net

I tried to send photo's of Abner's gravesite and well as his grandson and greatgrandson. Your email would not let me send anything. Abner as in the article and 1st book by Oscar was my great (4x)grandfather. My father was Jessie Alton, son of Grover Alton, son of Levander. Would like to send these for those that do not know they exist. The pictures were taken over this last weekend (New Years)because my sister had not ever been to Abner's grave.

Thank You

Jim Womack


Wednesday, January 04, 2006 at 16:45:19 (PST)
Betty Phea
phea44@hotmail.com

The veterans administration has put up a search page for finding gravesites of veterans. I found a little more information than I had on several of my family. url is http://gravelocator.cem.va.gov/ . hope some will find it helpful.


Wednesday, January 04, 2006 at 18:44:44 (PST)
Paul N. Womack
paulwomack11@msn.com

Sam, thanks for input on Ky Womack's. These graves are on land still owned by the Mooney family.
Oliver Clayton was older Brother of my gg grandfather Walton B Womack. They were the sons of David and Esther Tanner. Was David the youngest child of Thomas and Louvisa Rice? That is the question I've been asking for several years. I've read many arguments on both sides. I am of the opinion that he was, but can I prove it? NO! But then I don't think anyone can prove he wasn't.


Thursday, January 05, 2006 at 16:42:44 (PST)
Paul Laemmle
PLaemmle@aol.com

I am trying to locatea Bob Womack from Pasadena, California. any help would be appreciated.


Friday, January 06, 2006 at 01:15:43 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2 @ cox.net

There was a C Womack in Pasadena and a Peter Womack in Pasadena at www.whitepages.com


Friday, January 06, 2006 at 07:17:53 (PST)
Doretta Noland
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Teresa - Sorry I missed your last posting. I don't have any data on LETCHER MILES WOMACK b1906 d1972. I bet the source for the name Letcher is a surname as is I believe the name Miles. I do agree with you that the name Miles does have a common source for our lines. I wonder if it could be the maiden name of some early Womack's wife. Also could your Susan who married Henry Womack be a JETER or could Susan be SUSAN VASSAR, daughter of NATHANIEL VASSAR and SARAH HUDSON? I have nothing to go on, just a thought. I have been unable to find who SUSAN VASSAR married. There is for sure close connections between HUDSON or HUDSON DESCENDANTS with the WOMACKS. I can easily name 5 marriges. I would love to go to Halifax Co VA todo research and see the farm, but with my bad leg, about as far as I can drive from home is to Maysville KY. Knowling who now owns the farm helps me. Now I can name the place in my notes. LOTTIE WOMACK married first to RICHARD THOMAS COMPTON. I don't know his parents or grandparents, but I am almost sure there is some close relation to ROBERTA WMACK who married THOMAS "JIM" COMPTON b about 1837. Could this ROBERTA WOMACK be HENRY and SUSAN WOMACK's daughter? Lottie's first is my husband's direct line. Can anyone help us on Henr Womack's line? Doretta


Friday, January 06, 2006 at 16:00:20 (PST)
Teresa Womack Moore
resa1207@yahoo.com

Doretta,
Letcher Miles Womack was my great great uncle, But with all of his sisters and brothers dead, I can't find anything about his name from family. Either I dont know who they are or they live far away. The name Jeter you mentioned really interested me. My grandfathers name is Jeter Patterson Womack. I haven't seen that name anywhere else except his father's name was Geter Bradshaw Womack. They are the only two named Jeter that I have found. Are you saying that there was a Susan Jeter somewhere in the line or did I misunderstand you? That would really be interesting. I live about 50 miles from that farm I told you about. The next time I have some time off and my Dad will go with me, I can go back to the farm and take some pictures with my digital camera and send them to you. You are right about the Hudson name, I have found that name alot in my research.
I hope someone reading this maybe has some info that could lead me in the right direction as far as Henry and Susan. Thanks
Teresa


Friday, January 06, 2006 at 19:08:44 (PST)
Doretta Noland
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Teresa - I don't know if there was really a SUSAN JETER> I believe JETER was a surname and it is a guess that Susan who married HENRY WOMACK might have been a JETER. Anyway it is worth looking into to see if there was (1) a Susan Jeter who was about the right age and (2) if so, who she could have married. Who knows, by finding who Henry Womack's Susan is NOT may lead to who she really is. But right now my bet is on Susan being SUSAN VASSAR who I think was about the correct age. I just haven't been able to find out if or who that Susan Vassar married. I am just guessing on all of this. Hey you all out there... we need lots of help. Has anyone researched Henry Womack and Susan of Halifax Co VA? Thanks Teresa, pictures would be great. I'll pay you for them. Don's birthday is next month and I know pictures would please him. Doretta


Friday, January 06, 2006 at 19:08:46 (PST)
Doretta Noland
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Teresa - I don't know if there was really a SUSAN JETER> I believe JETER was a surname and it is a guess that Susan who married HENRY WOMACK might have been a JETER. Anyway it is worth looking into to see if there was (1) a Susan Jeter who was about the right age and (2) if so, who she could have married. Who knows, by finding who Henry Womack's Susan is NOT may lead to who she really is. But right now my bet is on Susan being SUSAN VASSAR who I think was about the correct age. I just haven't been able to find out if or who that Susan Vassar married. I am just guessing on all of this. Hey you all out there... we need lots of help. Has anyone researched Henry Womack and Susan of Halifax Co VA? Thanks Teresa, pictures would be great. I'll pay you for them. Don's birthday is next month and I know pictures would please him. Doretta


Sunday, January 08, 2006 at 07:40:13 (PST)
Doretta Noland
DREEC@EKNS.NET

I stand corrected. The Susan who married Henry Womack of Halifax Co VA, is NOT Susan/Susannah Vassar. Reginald Vassar on his WebSite says Nathaniel Vassar & Sarah Hudson's daughter Susan/Susannah Vassar/Vasser born ca 1795 married 27 Nov 1845 Jeremiah Nichols. So I say... Does anyone have any ideas of the surname of Henry Womack's wife Susan? Doretta


Sunday, January 08, 2006 at 23:36:01 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Doretta
You are one of the reasons I rarely post on WGN - I have sent you two e-mails outside WGN with info - I have yet to receive acknowledgement that I sent that info - whether it was duplicate information or not is not the case; the fact it was sent is what matters --

I have been put down, castigated, etc for mentioning things like this - I have even bee told I was the reason people dont post to WGN - the only thing I have done in the past is to get people to post - regardless of how little they think they have - what they have may be a key or clue for someone else --

I am tired of the castigation - those people that dont post are, well I dont really have s decent wowrd for them at the moment -- other than cowards...

I stayed away from WGN for quite awhile to see if the "traffic" would pick up - It hasnt - --- So it hasnt been my fault totally - but I wont indulge very often in posting ---

You asked for help in one of your recent posts - And I tried - But, in the future, where is that help going to come from? Not from the rank and file Womacks - OOps better not say that --

Anyway -- Dont bother asking me for help if you cannot acknowledge it when it is given --

I have resources I pay for and I do share when people share back --

Anywaw, WGN started out nicely as a share and share alike -- Methinks it has gotten far beyond that lately,,

Sam


Monday, January 09, 2006 at 13:25:02 (PST)
Doretta Noland
Dreec@EKNS.net

Sam - I am so sorry that I am late in getting an answer back to you. E-Mails come in on my husband's equipment. I believe that I can receive E-Mails if I use a different address but for some reason I can't send out on my equipment. We haven't been able to figure out what the problem is, so I have been using his address. I also have problems using a CD on my equipment. I am hoping that after our budget gets a break from these high heatin bills, that we can get different equipment for me. I last posted before Don found your E-Mail to me. I have learned so much about computer research from you and others on WGN. I do want to thank you for your trouble and I do miss your postings. Please Sam, be patient with me. My old Gateway that I have been learning on is about used up. I believe be better this summer when I get new x-p equipment. Also a second phone line and a genealogy program that will work on the new stuff. Now I must tell you that I know of a Elizabeth Jeter who married a Josiah Crews b1745.They were of Campbell & Lunenburg Cos VA, but they had descendants who lived in Halifax Co VA. Also I wonder if some of Elizabeth's Jeters could have wondered down to Fla and are some relation. I suspect Josiah Crews could be connected in some way to a Mary Crews b1750-1752 who married John Compton b1745-1748. Their grandson Peter Compton b1806 Halifax Co VA married Sarah Williams. Sarah (maiden Williams) maybe married 1st Joseph Williams and 2nd Peter Compton. Sarah Williams had by Joseph, (1) Sarah H, (2) Peter James, and (3) Richard Jones Williams b1828 d1912 who married Virginia ann Blanks. Sarah Williams and Peter had Thomas "Jim" Compton b1837. This Thomas married Roberta L Womack. Now the Henry Womack (b1800 d June 20 1875) who married Susan (the Susan that Teresa & I have been talking about) had a daughter named Roberta. I don't know if they are the same Roberta, but I think they could be. I have been looking for decendants of theirs to see if they could be my husband's Compton line. Also I want to tell you about an Anderson Jenkins with a wife Nancy that I foun on RootsWeb. They had a daughter Maria Ellen b1836 Tenn d1906 Posey Co Ind. Maria Ellen married 1857 Ind to Charles Carrol Weaver. I can't but wonder if this Anderson Jenkins' wife Nancy could be Nancy Womack, the sister of Henry Womack (1800-1875). Henry's sister Nancy did marry Dec 18, 1819 Halifax Co VA to a Anderson Jenkins. Also Ann R Long's parents seem to be John R Long & Sarah Burnett. Ann R b1808 married John Womack b1810 d 8 March 1885. (Henry also had a brother named John of whom I know nothing more.) Ann R seems to have also married Tristam Bostic b1805 d Jan 1836. He seems to be of the Bosticks in your E-Mail. All the above could be what you already know. I am passing it along in case it is not known. Please forgive me Sam, I do find your great knowledge of Womacks very helpful. Your imput will be greatly missed by me & others just starting to work with the computeron that large family of Womacks. Doretta


Monday, January 09, 2006 at 21:11:55 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Doretta
Thank you - that is all I need is to know people get what I send - my apologies if I have caused you any problems
sam


Tuesday, January 10, 2006 at 11:25:33 (PST)
Doretta
Dreec@EKNS.NET

Gotcha Sam - No problems. Here's to a good year for all of us in Womack Research. Doretta


Wednesday, January 11, 2006 at 08:04:53 (PST)
Doretta Noland
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Mary & Beth - Jacob G Snead married Ann/Nannie and had lots of issue of whom four were: (1) John Snead (1803-1874) who married Sarah H Allen (1800-1875) and they had Lewellen Snead (1821-1894) who married Jan 1849 Halifax Co VA to Rebecca J Womack (1822-1889) the daughter of Abe Womack who I know nothing about. (2) Charles Henry Snead (1804-1850) who married Susannah Rebecca Hudson (1817-1880) who is I think the daughter of Julius Caesar Hudson and Mary Womack. (3) William Snead who married Parkey Elizabeth Allen. (4) Zachariah Gordon Snead (1806-1878) who married Sarah B Majors. Now William & Parkey and Zachariah & Sarah are direct ancestors of Lucy Snead who married 1st Jefferson Davis Womack as his 2nd wife. (Jeff married 1st Mary Hudson and Lucy married 2nd an Edmondson.) Lucy and Jeff's daughter Lottie Womack b1898 married Richard Thomas Compton. I have been looking for descendants of Roberta Womack and Thomas "Jim" Compton to see if they are ancestors of my husband through Richard Thomas Compton. I know nothing more on Richard except his children's names. Doretta


Wednesday, January 11, 2006 at 09:43:52 (PST)
Mary L. Hayes
mhayes@dcr.net

Doretta:
Per your post of January 11th.
Roberta L. Womack & Thomas "Jim" Compton were my great grandparents. Roberta was the daughter of Henry Womack & Susan ?, see the 1850 Halifax Co., VA census. Thomas "Jim" Compton was the son of Peter Compton born 1806 Halifax Co. & Sarah (Sallie) J. Williams. Peter was the son of Richard Compton & Mary Kirk. Richard son of John Compton, Sr. & Mary Crews. John Compton, Sr. son of William Compton born ca1720, he lived in Lunenburg, Halifax Cos, died 1774 Pittsylvania Co., VA.

In my files I have a little info on your Richard Thomas Compton who married Lottie Womack. Richard Thomas was born September 1889, the son of Elijah H. Compton born Jan 1849 & Margaret ? born Sept 1849. See 1900 Halifax Co., census Roanoke Dist., 13th of June, dwelling 143/family 146. Elijah H. Compton was the son of James R. Compton born 1820 & Elizabeth D. ? born 1829. See 1870 Halifax Co. Census, Staunton Township, 11th August, dwelling 67/family 65. & 1850 Halifax Co. Census, Northern Dist., 9th of August.

Also on the 1920 Halifax Census, Roanoke District, Lottie Womack & "Tom" Compton have three children listed. In 1930, Halifax, Roanoke District, "Tom" Compton is listed as single, age 40, laborer on farm.

I hope this will be of some help to you. If you need names of siblings for Richard Thomas or Elijah H. I can provide them for you.

Sincerely,
Mary L. Hayes


Thursday, January 12, 2006 at 11:47:00 (PST)
Doretta Noland
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Hey Sam, it looks like you have hit the jackpot. Your E-Mail is right on. Your Halifax Co VA census on Henry Womack is Mark Womack's Henry & Susan. On that 1850 Census, a Nancy Franklin age 50 is living with them. I wonder if she could be Susan's sister or maybe a servant. Her Franklin surname could be a maiden or married name. Now Lewellen Jackson could also be a worker or relative or both. I don't know. Now on the 1870 Halifax Co VA Census, Henry & Susan are enumerated with Andrew Tuck & wife. Could the Tucks be also some kind of relative? Now it seems that Henry & Susan's daughter Nancy (bornin VA) went to Grandville Co NCar (maybe to visit relatives). There she met and married in 1859 John Torian. Then Nancy died almost 40 years later in Halifax Co. Is that Halifax Co VA or NCar? Either way it shows Womack connection with both states. --- Now to those ADS Compton files. They do shoe Mary Hayes' lines from Roberta (per her recent posting). My husband's Comptons do seem to be of the same Compton bunch. But Don's line seems to be NOT a direct line from Roberta Womack. It looks like Roberta's husband "Jim" Compton is a brother or cousin to my husband's direct ancestor. I am still trying to figure out the connection, but I can say that Roberta's "Jim" is some kind of close relative to my husband's direct ancestor. --- Now on to the Jenkins of Posey Co Ind. That bunch that you found on the 1850 Census is the Anderson Jenkins & wife Nancy that I was talking about. If that Mrs Nancy Jenkins is really Nancy Womack,(the sister of Henry Womack of Halifax Co VA), it could help to tie in some of those loose hanging Womacks who left Va for other parts of the country. To me this Nancy sure seems to be Henry's sister. I don't know anymore on Henry's sister Nancy than what I have posted, nor do I have any proof to prove if the Nancs are the same person or different people. But if that Mrs Nancy Jenkins is really Henry Womack's sister, she could help to tie in some of those Womacks who left VA. Figuring out where she has lived and who the Womacks & Jenkins who lived in the same area are, could maybe provide connection clues to some of those loose hanging Womack lines. Also the direct ancestory of Anderson Jenkins and the line of Mrs Isabel (Jenkins?) Dunn's husband, may hold some clues on some Womacks. Relatives always kept some kind of contact with each other time. People just don't push a pin into a map to find a place to move to. They know of that place before moving and have a reason for going to that place or a reason to leave the place where they are living. Moving a great distance is a BIG STEP and Anderson Jenkins & family took several BIG STEPS. --- Now last to John Womack b1811 who married Ann Long. From your E-Mail, John's father is David Womack, so John can't be Henry's brother. Henry Womack (who married Susan), his parents were William & Rebecca. But I can't help but wonder what happen to Henry's brother John Womack. My husband's direct Womack line is Miles Womack of Halifax Co VA who married Frances Hawkins. This Miles is Henry's brother. Also Henry & Susan had a son Miles Womack and there is a Miles Jenkins age 28 living 1850 in Anderson & Nancy Jenkins household. Could William Womack's wife Rebecca be a Miles or does the Miles name come in further back? Doretta


Thursday, January 12, 2006 at 18:02:09 (PST)
Doretta Noland
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Thanks Mary, your posting has given us two more generations back on our Compton line. I have been looking for some time for their names. I haven't quite figured out how to bring up the different census on the computer to check for someone. Those census sure are handy. I am a little confuse on who James R Compton's father was. Is James R the son of John Compton and Elizabeth Anderson? Also I would love any sibling data that you wish to share. I have none. Lottie Womack's line back is: Jefferson Davis Womack and 2nd wife Lucy Sneed/Snead. Jeff is the son of Mary C (who never married and Littlrjohn S McCargo. Mary's parents were Miles Womack and Frances Hawkins. Your Henry Womack and Miles were brothers and sons of William Womack and Rebecca. Thanks again. Doretta


Thursday, January 12, 2006 at 19:17:31 (PST)
Teresa Womack Moore
resa1207@yahoo.com

sam,
Thanks for your email, you amaze me with all your info. The Nancy Frankin in the census you sent: my great-grandfather Bradshaw Geter Womack (I think he is the son of William R. Womack) married a Della Franklin born abt. 1886 according to their marriage license. Her parents were William and Bettie Franklin. Della was born in Halifax Co. VA. At the age of 17 she was recorded as a servant for John Moorefield in 1900 census. Do you think there is any connection between Nancy and Della? If so how?


Friday, January 13, 2006 at 06:06:10 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Teresa
Note the age difference between Nancy and Della - Nancy was born ca 1800;
you say Della about 1886. If any relationship exists; I would have to guess
at either a great granny or a great aunt --

Also, I checked that 1900 census on John Moorefield -- the Della you refer to
is Idella Franklin born abt Sep 1882 -

On the 1910 Census, Roanoke District, Halifax Co A,
it lists a Geter B Womack, wife Idella [note not Della]
ages 25/27 respectively. He, Idella, children all born VA.
Children: Martha G age 4; Letcher M age 3; Zola F age 0/12, census done Apr 20;
Mother: Eliza A, widow, age 60 born NC
Son Jeter must be the one below --

Remember Lwellen Jackson from 1850 Census? Guess who is the
next family on the census? So there must be some connection?

Next: I cannot find anything on a Geter on the 1920/30 censuses, running soundex. I did find a Jeter Womack, born in 1915, died 1975, on the Social Security Death Index - I did not locate him on any census. Again, either left out of indexing; or, somewhere in the boonies and was not enumerated.

To show you how messed up the indexes are, I went thru the 1920 for Halifax Co VA - All caucasians, 3026 of them - I only came up with 6 Wommac and 9 Warmack
There were 2300+ blacks for a little over 5300 total souls in Halifax in 1930.
Yet the 1900 listed over 17000!! Wouldnt you say the Ancestry censuses are not
very reliable??


Friday, January 13, 2006 at 10:57:46 (PST)
Mary L. Hayes
mhayes@dcr.net

Doretta:
Per your Post of 1-12-06, Yes, My Henry & your Miles Womack were brothers, both sons of William Womack & Rebecca.

To answer your question "Is your James R. Compton the son of John Compton & Elizabeth Anderson?" No, because your James R. was born in 1820. John Compton & Elizabeth Anderson were married 26 Sept 1827, Halifax. Now they did have a son, James R. born 1835. See the 1850 Halifax Co., Census, John born 1805 & Elizabeth along with their entire family, including their son, 15 year old James R. was living in the household of William Anderson, Sr., age 72.

I'm pretty sure that your James R. and my Peter Compton were brothers. I have to much info to post here on the Comptons. Therefore, I will send you all family data on the generations via email. I've worked on these lines for 30 years and at times have my "Senior Moments." I do not have all my stuff on the computer, only my direct lines.

Also, Sam is absolutely correct about the indexes, whether it be Ancestry's or printed. Sometimes you just have to sit and read microfilm. I have found several ancestors not listed.

Mary


Friday, January 13, 2006 at 13:06:37 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

On the censuses - I am on page 11 of 52 for one of three districts for Halifax
Co for 1900 - or was that? Guess I am having "senior moments" too! LOL


Friday, January 13, 2006 at 15:15:32 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Teresa
After perusing 111 images for Roanoke VA - I found your Jeter..
Apparently Geter B has died sometime after Jeter was born in 1915.

Idella has remarried an Andrew Morefield
1920 Census For District 98, Roanoka, Halifax Co, VA
Morefield Deller
Morefield, Andrew
Womack, Martha b. abt 1906
Womack, Letcher b. abt 1907
Womack, Phillip b, abt 1909 [Not on 1910.]
Womack, Hattie M b. abt 1912
Womack, Jeter P b abt 1915

I'll be going for the 1930 and see what is there.Index not very good
I found Phillip and Letcher married and each with one son.
No Andrew More/Moorefield nor Idella/Della...
Will be losts more images - 104 on Districts 22 and 23 alone.

I did find a George womack b abt 1886, wife Ida
with a son Letcher L born abt 1912 VA. Possibly
a brother to Geter B??


Friday, January 13, 2006 at 16:14:43 (PST)
Teresa Womack Moore
resa1207@yahoo.com

Sam,
I start looking at all my info and my head starts spinning. Did everyone name their children the same names? I found my Jeter b.-1915 in the 1930 census in Person Co. NC- He was living with Idellar and Andrew Moorefield.

As far as Bradshaw, Im totally confused. Mark had told me one time that he was not of his line. I keep seeing the same names that he is finding in my line. Tell me what you think. This is what I have put together.

1.Henry and Susan Womack ? is there more than one couple with the same name?
2. William and Eliza Wilmouth-Moorefield-Womack - married 1869 Eliza's first marriage was to E.D. Moorefield in 1865 - Her parents were Yancey and Susan Wilmouth.
3.Geter Bradshaw and Ideller Franklin Womack - married 1904
4.Jeter Patterson Womack and Thelma Paige Bliss Womack - married 1938
5.Larry Wilson Womack and Lillie Mae Irby Womack - married 1967
6. Teresa Womack (me)

The only concrete connection of a sibling for Geter B. is a sister named Zora who married Howse Mount Conner in 1897. Her parents listed on marriage license as Billy and ELiza A. Womack.
Please tell me if what I have is correct.
I am very interested in the George Womack you mentioned. I cant find anything on any other siblings for Geter B. and Zora.
Thanks for taking the time to help me search.
Teresa


Friday, January 13, 2006 at 20:01:33 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Teresa
This may or may not be; but dang sure looks good!!

Elias D. Moorefield
Birth: About 1843 Halifax, Virginia
Marriage: 20 JUL 1865 Halifax, Virginia

Wife
Eliza Ann Wilmoth
Birth: About 1847 Halifax, Virginia
Marriage: 20 JUL 1865 , Halifax, Virginia

Father: Yancey Achilles Wilmoth
Mother: Susan Whitlow

1870 Census, Roanoke, Halifax, VA Dwelling 452/Family 453
Womack, William age 23
Eliza age 22
Rosa age 6/12
Census taken Jul 13, 1870.
Can find nothing in VA or NC 1880 on indexes.


Saturday, January 14, 2006 at 10:08:18 (PST)
ruth anne sarn monteleone
1064 @msn.com

I am looking for any infomation I can find on my grandmother Anne Sarn . she lived in Jeannette Pa. in the early 1900s .with her husband my grandfather Charles their children, william, mary, james, and,carmella,and charles james being my father. The story is that Mary and my grandmother Anne were shot to death by Mary"s intented husband as she chose not to marry him in an arranged marriage.carmella was also shot and hospitalized at that time . have no idea where my grandmother is barried or what ever happened to the shooter it haunts me as I only received little info as thoese involved did not speak of it often. Now they are all deceased and I feel I need to know please help me solve this mystery you may contact me e mail or phone 630 616 1204


Saturday, January 14, 2006 at 17:01:27 (PST)
doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

*Halifax Co VA Court Records
William Womack
Eliza Moorefield
26/28 Jul 1869
Book: 3 Page: 59

*Halifax Co VA Court Records
Bradshaw Womack
Della Franklin
31 Oct 1904
Book: 3 1/2 Page: 104


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Sunday, January 15, 2006 at 18:59:24 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

*William Womack born: Abt. 1847 VA
Eliza Moorefield born: Abt. 1848 VA
1. Rosa G. Womack
born: Abt. 1869 Halifax Co VA
died: 26 October 1880 Halifax Co VA diphtheria Age at death: 11 years
informant: Eliza Womack (mother)
2. Mattie Womack
born: Abt. May 1874 Halifax Co VA
died: 07 November 1880 Halifax Co VA diphtheria Age at death: 6 years, 6 months
informant: Eliza Womack (mother)
3. William A. Womack
born: Abt. 1876 Halifax Co VA
died: 07 November 1880 Halifax Co VA diphtheria Age at death: 4 years
informant: Eliza Womack (mother)
Sources: 1870 Halifax Co VA Census
Halifax Co VA Death Records 1880 Page: 5 Lines: 14,15,16


Sunday, January 15, 2006 at 23:32:45 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Doris
Thank you - that explains what happened to the earlier children - and why there were those born after 1880 --


Monday, January 16, 2006 at 14:34:56 (PST)
Teresa Womack Moore
resa1207@yahoo.com

Doris,
Thank you!, I have seen Rosa's name before in the census but only once. I wordered why. Do you have any info connecting Bradshaw or Zora R. Womack with William and Eliza?
Thanks,
Teresa


Monday, January 16, 2006 at 16:49:49 (PST)
Doretta
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Mary,Sam,Teresa,Beth ---First let me thank you Mary, for all that Compton Data. I have been looking it over. Mary C. Womack had only two issue: (1) Jeff who married 1st Mary Hudson (her parents unknown), married 2nd Lucy Sneed and (2) Lillie who married William Robert Hudson. Beth - This william Robert Hudson was I think the son of Emanuel Hudson and Martha A Lloyd, and grandson of William Hudson & maybe Lacky Seay. This William who married Lacky Seay, was the brother of Tabitha Hudson b abt 1763 who married ____ Womack. And also the brother of Charles Hudson b1757 d1840 whose son Julius Ceasar Hudson b1785 married 1813 Mary Womack (the sister of Henry & Miles). Now Teresa and Sam - The Eliza Wilmouth who married 29 July 1869 to William R Wilmouth, also married 1st 21 July 1865 to Elias Dodson Moorefield/Morefield. By Rosa G's death date and age, she could be Moorefield's child but went by the surname Womack. Now Geter Bradshaw Womack's name Bradshaw could be Bratcher or Bainster. In notes I received 2 or 3 years ago from Roger (of WGN), under Hattie M Womack Conner, her father is refered to as Bratcher and mother as Della. Then yesterday I found on RootsWeb a Banister Moorefield who is connected with Elias Moorefield's line. Now Idella/Della (as Della Geraldine Womack) married 2nd Andrew Jackson Moorefield 15 April 1918 Person Co NCar as one of his wives. Andrew b1867 91930 was the son of Leander "Lee" Moorefield b1840 d1926 nd Elizabeth F "Bettie" Wilmouth b1842 d1926. Leander was a brother to Elias Dodson Moorefield and they were sons of Stephen Moorefield and Eliza Wilmouth.(I hope I have these Wilmouth ladies stright.) This Eliza b abt 1815 d1849 was a daughter of Thomas Wilmouth and Nancy W Traylor. Della and Andrew Moorefield maybe had a child who married _____ Phelps. Mary - Let me mentioned the surname Conner since Zora Womack married Mount Conner. I don't know his parents, but I bet he is some kin to Elinor Conner b 23 Nov 1778 who married 13 Jan 1810 VA to Caleb Compton, Elinor was the daughter of John Conner and Mary Ann ___ and granddaughter of John Conner and Elizabeth Kavanaugh b1714. Now i also know of a different Caleb Compton who married 1834 Halifax co VA to Daisy Waller, daughter of Cuthbert Waller b1786 d1867 and Elizabeth Compton b1787 d1867. Last let me say that I think Mary Crews who married John Compton was maybe a near relative of David Crews who married Sarah Gooch. I don't have any proof on any of the above. Doretta


Monday, January 16, 2006 at 17:18:06 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Doretta
I found Geter as Bradshaw on the 1900 census, but with wrong age - if he is the same one born in 1885..mother was Eliza A, I think I sent that to you.

The Tabitha Hudson in your post below is probably the one who married Abram
Womack, Oct 21, 1785, Halifax Co VA..

Sam


Monday, January 16, 2006 at 17:39:02 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Just want to drop a little food for thought - We all know about the Womack gal that got with the McCargo guy - but the kids took the Womack name - Remember, if any DNA testing is done on the male descendants, they will not match the
Womacks; but the McCargos....

Secondly, speaking of DNA, as I remember, albeit dimly. There were some Allen children that used Womack and Allen interchangeably, probably to suit their moods - This may be why we have some three [or is it two?] different Womack
lines not very closely related by DNA...Of course, adoption, and other name assumptions could also have created the differences --

Those of the Thomas and Louvisa line I match less than 80% with - yet I match 85% with a Lindsey and 93% with a Meeks - So, I am not saying those descendants of Thomas and Louvisa are not Womacks; heck, my line may be the messed up one!
But, somewhere back there someone entered as a Womack that wasnt one...
I will say that as far as looks go, I do match someone who was a descendant of ole "John the Wifebeater" close enough to be brothers - I have a first cousin that matches the looks also with me and this other person -- When we were all 17, including my son at that age, we could have definitely passed for brothers.
His wife said he and I needed to be sure who our papas were!!

This DNA testing is a good thing - It would be nice to get more interested in it. But, contrary to Monteil and other talk shows - no way can a female be matched to a male with these tests - only males!! Some of you male Womacks consider it - If you need further info,etc - look up Jack Womack's E-mail here on WGN and contact him - Roger may be able to help you also.

I am trying to get someone in England, a Womack of course, to take the test..
Hopefully, one will -


Monday, January 16, 2006 at 18:46:14 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

Teresa

Re: Do you have any info connecting Bradshaw or Zora R. Womack with William and Eliza?

Quick answer, no. I posted the two marriages because these two families were mentioned and I had the infomation in my paper files.

Lazy me, I don't have all my files on computer. I just put your line in the computer last week. When I posted to WGN, their burial data and location a few years ago in answer to your query for information, I didn't add them to the computer then. I should have. I had to go back to the WGN archives to find what I had given you then because that was quicker than going through tons of paperwork which I also don't have organized.

I have been going through the paper work to see if I had anything on your line and found those marriages, census records, and death records I posted.

I also saw something on Della's heirs. Will go back and find that again and post here at WGN. A quick read through of papers didn't show any court action or deed transfers. I will look again. Do you know how long they were in Halifax, like a range of years? I know Jeter Patterson Womack died in Halifax Co VA. The lineage you gave earlier, were they all in Halifax or do you know the last ancestor in Halifax and when he left - that type of info. including info. about time frames for Person NC etc. It will make it easier to run searches for data. Do you know where exactly in Halifax Geter Bradshaw Womack lived? In one query you mentioned Mt Laurel, was he in Mt Laurel, only? Do you have a neighborhood or community in NC? Don't post anything personal if the individuals are still living though. Thanks, Doris


Monday, January 16, 2006 at 19:56:09 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Doris
Geter and Idella were living in Roanoke District, Halifax Co, VA as of the 1910
census.
In 1920, she had remarried Andrew Morefield and was listed as head of household,
not he, in Roanoke Magisterial District, Halifax Co...


Monday, January 16, 2006 at 20:47:49 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

Teresa

Correction to my previous post: I didn't post the census information I had because Sam had already posted it.

What I had differed a little from Sam's posting, so I will post it. Sometimes these census are not that easy to read so I don't know if I transcribed it correctly.

*1870 Halifax Co VA Census
Roanoke Township Post Office Halifax Court House
Roll 1650 Book 1, Page 693b
Household 452-453
William Womack 23 M Farmer VA born: 1847
Eliza Womack 22 F Keeping house VA born: 1848
Rosa Womack 6/12 F VA born: 1869

*1910 Halifax Co VA Census
Census Microfilm Records: Virginia, 1910
Locale: ROANOKE Series: T624 Roll: 1631 Part: 1 Page: 150A
Household #69=69
Geter B. Womack M W 25 M-1 5_ _ VA VA NC born: 1885
Idellar Womack F W 27 M-1 5-4-4 VA VA VA born: 1883
Martha G. Womack F W 4 S VA VA VA born: 1906
Letcher M. Womack M W 3 S VA VA VA born: 1907
Louis P. Womack M W 2 S VA VA VA born: 1908
Zora F. Womack F W 9/12 S VA VA VA born: 1909
Eliza A. Womack F W 60 WD Had 4 children 3 living NC VA VA born: 1850

Notes:
Geter: born abt. 1885, in VA, Father born VA, Mother born NC, married once to Idellar for 5 years so Martha is their first child.
Idellar: born abt. 1883, in VA, Father and Mother born VA, married once to Geter for 5 years, she has had four children and 4 children are living.
All the children are born VA and their parents born VA.
I have the fourth child as Zora, Sam read it as Zola. I have the fourth child as age 9/12 and Sam has her as 0/12.
On Eliza A. Womack: born abt. 1850 in NC, Father and Mother born VA, she is a widow who had 4 children with 3 living as of this census.

Note: Comparison of Eliza Moorefield: born abt. 1848 in VA - base on info. given in 1870 census. So the age difference is within an acceptable margin. Difference in state of birth VA vs NC.
From what I know, Eliza Moorefield had 3 children born and 3 children died before 1910. Eliza A. Womack in the 1910 census, may have only listed the 4 children born who survived childhood and has lost one of those 4. In other words she may not be including the three children she may have lost in childhood. Sometimes, painful memories are put totally away to ease the pain. Are they the same person? Need more research. Since Geter Bradshaw married in Halifax Co VA and I listed the book and page where the marriage can be found, hopefully it will list their parents and other useful info. The next time I'm in Halifax, if I am there when the courhouse is open and time permits, I'll check for you.


Monday, January 16, 2006 at 22:10:48 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

Thanks Sam!

Question on your post to Doretta on Monday, January 16, 2006 re: I found Geter as Bradshaw on the 1900 census, but with wrong age - if he is the same one born in 1885..mother was Eliza A, I think I sent that to you.

On the above, what was the father's name on this 1900 census or was Eliza head of household?


Monday, January 16, 2006 at 22:17:41 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Doris, et al

You are right it is Zola not Zora - However, there is no tail
on the 0/12 and that is why I listed as such -

Louis P must be the Phillip of the 1920 census -

I cannot understand why Geter B [Bradshaw on 1900 Census]
is shown as born in 1894 on that census..There would be no
way he would have married and produced off spring by 1906!!
===========================================================

The other thing is Eliza's age is shown as 30; yet she is shown
as 60 [1850] on the 1910 living with Geter - On the 1870, she is
shown as age 22 [1848]. And Rosa, one of the deceased children
is shown as age 6/12 and the census was taken Jul 13, 1870.
On the 1920 it looks like 73[1847]. So, I cant buy an 1870
year of birth on her...now if we have two different people we
are dealing with....and thinking they are the same --

What I have below will bear further verification...the census should
be fair to middling on reliability. This is the only Eliza I could find.
Last name shown as Wilmot/Wilmoth/Wilmouth.

If you will check the old Womack Genealogy Magazine/Volumes, there was
a statement that Womack had been disguised as these names...
====================================================

Randolph Co VA, 1860 Census dwelling/family 606/610
Wilmoth, Jemima age 53[1807] all born VA
Jacob [V?] age 16 [1844]
Eliza age 11 [1849]
Census taken Jul 18, 1860
================================================

1850 Census District 52 , Randolph Co VA, Jul 27, 1850
Dwelling 303, family 304
Wilmoth, Samuel abt 40 all born va
Jemima age 39
Andrew J age 16
Taylor J age 14
Leonard Age 13
Julia A age 11
Jacob V age 5
Eliza 10/12
==================================================
From LDS:

Jacob V. WILMOTH
Birth: 31 MAR 1845 Of Charlette, , , Virginia
If this is the city, then Randolph Co on another would be correct?
Death: 16 DEC 1919
Parents:
Father: Samuel WILMOTH
Birth: 19 May 1804 Charlotte, Va
Death: 11 Mar 1856
Mother: Jemima Taylor
Spouse: Anne Eliza Johnson
Birth: 16 APR 1842 Of Charlette, , , Virginia
Marriage: About 1866 Of Charlette, , , Virginia
Death: 28 FEB 1906
==================================

Samuel's parents listed as:

Nicholas WILMOTH
Born: 24 Feb 1762 Place: Of, Randolph, Virginia
Died: 22 Jun 1839 Place: , , Va
Married: 12 Aug 1789 Place: , Randolph Co, Virginia

Father: Thomas WILMOTH
Mother: Agness

Wife's Name
Sidney CURRENCE
Born: 1763 Place: , Harrison, Wv
Died: 5 Feb 1845 Place: , Randolph Co, Virginia
Married: 12 Aug 1789 Place: , Randolph Co, Virginia

Father: William CURRENCE
Mother: Lydia STEELE

Anyway, this info presented on a for what its worth basis...


Monday, January 16, 2006 at 22:29:02 (PST)
Doretta
DREEC@EKNS.NET

To all you Womacks - I goofed BIG on my earlier posting. William R Wilmouth is NOT William R Wilmouth. He is WILLIAM R WOMACK, the 2nd husband of Eliza Wilmouth whom she married 29 July 1869. Eliza's 1st hushand was Elias Dodson Moorefield whom she married 21 July 1865. I guess I didn't have enough confusion with those Wilmouths. I had to make more. I also stand corrected on Rosa G. From the 1870 census posted , I say Rosa is William Womack's first born. Doretta


Monday, January 16, 2006 at 23:43:07 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Doris
Eliza was a widow on the 1900 --


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 00:09:50 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

Teresa

Re: the marriage record of William Womack and Eliza Moorefield. I just found the details on this marriage as follows:

*Halifax Co VA Marriage Records Book: 3 Page: 59
Married: 29 July 1869 [The 26th or 28th July 1869 would have been the license]
Groom:
William Womack Age: 25 Single Born: Halifax Co VA Residing: Halifax Co VA Occupation: Farmer Parents: Henry and Susan

Bride: Eliza Moorefield Age: 21 Widower Born: Halifax Co VA Residing: Halifax Co VA (occupation left blank) Parents: Yancey & Susan

Now, since this William Womack is Henry and Susan Womack's son, I have more information now that connection is confirmed.

His name is William R. Womack [Halifax County VA Census 1850]
born: 1844 [Halifax County VA Census 1850 - age 6]
[Halifax Co VA Marriage Records - Married age 25]
[Halifax County VA Register of Deaths - died age 34]
born: 1847 [Halifax County VA Census 1870 - age 23]
born: Halifax Co VA [Halifax County VA Register of Deaths - page 4, line 155]
died: March 29, 1878 of consumption, occupation: farmer, Father: Henry Womack, Mother: Susan Womack, consort: Lucy Womack, informant: Lucy Womack, wife.

No information on Lucy Womack. Only source for her name is the above death record of William Womack, the death record only list his name as William Womack with no middle initial.

I have no children listed for William R. Womack and Lucy (unknown maiden name). I don't see a marriage record for a William Womack and a Lucy either in my records. They could have married in NC. I will check Halifax birth records tomorrow evening.


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 00:26:33 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Teresa
On your Earlier post about Letcher M Womack:
Son of Geter and Idella Franklin Womack
Dec 12 1906 to Mar 1972 - Source SSDI.
Both in VA..
Was married to someone named Jessie, year of birth
from census 1913 - had child, John H born abt Mar 1930
was age 5/12 on census for Halifax Co Aug 8 1930
He was 21 and she 15 when they married so that puts
their marriage around 1928?


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 08:06:50 (PST)
Doretta
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Doris & Sam -(Halifax Co VA postings) By any chance, could the William Womack who married Eliza and the William Womack who married Lucy be two different Williams? Doretta


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 09:48:45 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Doretta
Which William and Lucy are we referring to? I have found nothing to connect
William m. Eliza to anyone else..yet anyway..


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 10:21:26 (PST)
Doretta
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Sam - On Doris' last Jan 17 posting she says "died March 29 1878 of Consumption, occupation farmer, Father Henry Womack, Mother Susan Womack, consort Lucy Womack, informant Lucy Womack, wife" Earlier you say on Jan 16 "Eliza was a widow on the 1900--" Doretta


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 12:58:28 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Doretta
If this William died in 1878 - he cannot be the husband of Eliza A, who was a
widow on the 1900 census with Bradshaw - shown as born 1894, Charles 1895, and
John 1896. If this is the correct Eliza who married William in 1869; then Bradshaw, if he is Geter Bradshaw, has an incorrect year of birth...but Geter was shown on the 1910 as born abt 1885; with an Eliza A born abt 1850 as mother, widowed, living with...

I have looked all over for this Charles and John and cannot find them after 1900. Unless they died, they do not appear on any index for 1910/1920 in VA.

I did find a Charles as a Lodger on the 1920 for Richmond, Henrico Co age 23 [1887]born on VA - but that is as close as they come to 1896.

Also found a John as a lodger on the 1930 for Richmond, wife Mary M - John was born 1898.

Wont say Charles and John are the same as Geters brothers - but they are as close as I can get at the moment....


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 17:52:39 (PST)
Teresa Womack Moore
resa1207@yahoo.com

Sam, Doris, Doretta,

Wow! You guys have been busy! When I checked the message board today, I was shocked. Sam, The census you spoke of about the dates being wrong has been a confusing point of interest to me ever since I ran accross it. That cant be my Bradsaw. Doris, I have copies of the marriage licence's for Jeter P. and Thelma Bliss, Geter B. and Idellar, and William and Eliza. I have studied them until I almost went blind. Everything is posted here on the message boards. Im starting to wonder if there are two families with the same names. Do you know if Bradsaw is listed in the Death indexes? I cant figure out when he died exactly or where. I would love to find his grave. I dont know when or where Idellar died either. My grandfather Jeter P. was born in 1915, I found some land grants between Idellar and the Moorefield man she married in 1917 in Halifax. I figure sometime after 1915 and before 1917, he died. My grandfather Jeter never told anyone about his childhood, only that he was very unhappy. So we know nothing past him. All his other sisters and brothers have died. I just want to say how touched I am that you guys are working so hard to help me figure out this mystery. Thanks, Teresa


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 17:55:31 (PST)
Teresa
resa1207@yahoo.com

Doretta,
Mount Conner's parents are Ben and Martha Conner


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 18:04:50 (PST)
Teresa
resa1207@yahoo.com

Sam,
You are correct about Letcher and Jessie. I have pictures of their grave stones. They had four children in all. Roger,Claire, Catherine, and John Henry.
Jessie was born Jan. 23 1914 and died July 1993, Her death date is partially hidden in my picture by flowers.


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 18:16:08 (PST)
Teresa
resa1207@yahoo.com

Doris,
THe info you requested about where Jeter p. lived. I know in 1930 census for Person Co., NC had him listed living with Andrew Moorefield and Idellar Franklin. He was married to Thelma in 1938 in Person Co. also, but he lived in Halifax after he was married. My dad said that he owned a store in the Difficult Creek area before he was born(1945). My dad said that Jeter P. ran away from home when he was a teenager and lived with a man in Person Co. Longhurst community that would have been between 1930 and 1938. He didnt know the mans name that Jeter lived with.


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 18:21:15 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

*Halifax Co VA Records
General Index to Devisees and Heirs Page 106

- Sur - Name - Heir or - Kind of - Will -
Year - Name - of Heirs - Devisees - Instrument - Book - Page

1940 - Womack - Jeter - Idella - L of H - 46 - 363

- Womack - Letcher - Womack - - -
- Womack - Phil - Moorefield - - -

[Idella's name written as:] "Idella Womack Moorefield or Idella Womack"


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 18:35:05 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

That last message came out so garbled, I'm going to redo it. Sorry.

*Halifax Co VA Records
General Index to Devisees and Heirs Page 106

Year: 1940 Kind of Instrument: L of H Will Book: 46 Page: 363

Heir or Devisee Of
[Idella's name written as:] "Idella Womack Moorefield or Idella Womack"

Name of Heirs
Jeter Womack, Letcher Womack, Phil Womack


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 19:20:54 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

*Halifax Co VA Records
General Index to Deeds

Grantor: Eliza A. Womack
Grantee: H. Clay Whitworth Tr.
Kind: D of T Book: 66 Page: 452 Date: 23 Dec 1878 Location: 25A

Grantor: Eliza Womack &c
Grantee: Martha E. Wilmoth(sic)
Kind: B&S Book: 92 Page: 569 Date: 19 Dec 1899 Location: 25A Roanoke Dist

Grantor: G. B. Womack & wf
Grantee: J. W. Canada Tr
Kind: D or Tr Book: 113 Page: 550 Date: 23 Feb 1914 Location: 100A Roa Dist

Grantor: G. B. Womack & wf
Grantee: George W. Johnston
Kind: B&S Book: 117 Page: 333 Date: 7 Jun 1916 Location: 100A Roa Dist Staun R

Grantor: Idellar Womack &h
Grantee: J. W. Canada Tr
Kind: D or Tr Book: 113 Page: 550 Date: 23 Feb 1914 Location: 100A Roa Dist

Grantor: Idellar Womack &h
Grantee: George W. Johnston
Kind: B&S Book: 117 Page: 333 Date: 7 Jun 1916 Location: 100A Roa Dist Staun

Grantor: Idellar Womack &h
Grantee: J. W. Canada Tr
Kind: D or T Book: 119 Page: 38 Date: 9 Jun 1917 Location: Tract Roa D nr Clover

Grantor: Idella(sic) Womack
Grantee: See Idella Womack Moorefield
Kind: Ref Book: 134 Page: 469 Date: Location:


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 21:20:43 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Doris, Teresa, et al
We are apparently dealing with two families of William and Eliza. I have went thru 160 images for the Roanoke Districts of Halifax - Unless they are somewhere else, dont look like they are there..There are black families but I
pulled only the caucasians.

Womacks in Halifax Co, 1900 Census, unless other wise noted,
All born VA.

District 54 - 46 Images
Womack, Abraham W Jan 1856
Image 8 of 46, Dwelling/Family 66

Womack, Eliza Jan 1870 Image 18 of 46, Dwelling/family 164
Bradshaw MAR 1894
John May 1896
Charles Apr 1898

Womack, Jeffrey May 1860, Dwelling /Family 179 - Image 20 of 46
Lucy T Jun 1870
Eddie L Oct 1897

Womack, Charles?? Jun 1876 Dwelling 328/Family 329 image 36 of 46
Sallie Apr 1877
Erenst Jun 1897
Bertha May 1899

Womack, John H Jul 1860, Dwelling 332/Family 333 image 36 of 46
Elizabeth Sep 1870
Saunders Oct 1892 nephew
Sarah Jun 1830 mother

Womack, Abraham? May 1854, Dwelling 467/Family 478 image 46 of 46


District 55- 31 images
None


District 56 43 images

Womack, William Sep 1861 Image 9 of 43, Dwelling 81/Family 84
Bettie Mar 1870
Arthur Feb 1886
Martha R Apr 1895
Hula L or S May 1898


District 57 40 images

Ancestry Image 39 of 40
Womack, R J Feb 1868 Dwelling 304, Family 364
Bettie Jan 1872
Thomas Nov 1891
Nannie Sep 1893
Willie Oct 1896


Tuesday, January 17, 2006 at 22:47:34 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

OK, did another 158 images on the 1880 census for Halifax Co - After looking at these two censuses, 1880-1900, a lot of Womacks moved out of Halifax - there are not too many or Ancestry doesnt have all the pages up--

District 122 44 images
None

District 123 56 images

Womack, A V age 27 dwelling/family 195 image 20 of 56
S A age 32 [wife]

District 124 58 images All born VA unless otherwise noted.

Womack, M B age 63 Dwelling 86/Family 87 image 9 of 58
Elizabeth age 55
M Mel [f] age
Susan age 20
Waddell, Filmore age 12 nephew

Womack, R E J age 46 Dwelling 263/Family 264 image 27 of 58
Eliza age 36
John H age 19
Mary R age 17
Rose B age 14
Robt L age 12
Nanny age 9
Chas age 7
Logan age 3

Allen Chas Dwelling 348/Family 349 Image 36 of 58
Womack, Allen W age 9 [his ward]

Womack, Ann S age 45 Dwelling 350/family 351 image 37 of 58
Mary S age 7

Womack, Jeff D age 21 Dwelling/family 440 image 46 of 58
Molly T age 22


Wednesday, January 18, 2006 at 13:17:07 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Womack Cuzzins,

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Happy hunting!
Beth


Thursday, January 19, 2006 at 00:26:42 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

OK lets try to do a time thing on this William, Eliza, Geter situation

Working backwards as well as possible:

1930 - Someone found Eliza and Andrew in NC.

1920 - Eliza A has apparently remarried an Andrew Moorefield -
A young Jeter aged 5 [1915] is with them in Halifax - Geter
apparently is now deceased.

1910 - we Know Geter age 25 [1885] is in Halifax county by the census;
His mother, Eliza A, is with him and us shown as 60 [1850] years of age.

1900 - Where are they?? There is an Eliza A, widow with three children.
Bradshaw, Charles and John. Born abt 1894/95/96 respectively.

1897 - a William Womack dies - whose wife was named Caroline.

1885 Geter B Womack born per 1910 census.

1882 - a William R dies in MO, wife Lucy.

1880 - Cannot find Eliza nor William on a census in VA - However,
Halifax Co records the deaths of three children in Oct[1] and Nov 1880[2].
One of them was a Rosa aged abt 11. Probably one below.

I also did soundex searches on NC and WV - nothing on Indexes
I also checked Wilmot, Wilmoth and Wilmouth - nothing--

So, where are they?

1878 - A William R Womack dies - wife is indicated as Lucy. Couldnt be
Geter's father.

1870 - we find a William Womack and Eliza with a young daughter, Rosa;
aged abt 6/12 [abt 1869]. William is shown 25 years old [1845]. Eliza
is shown as 2 years older [1848].

1869 - We find an Eliza Morefield marrying a William Womack.

1865 - We find an Eliza A Wilmot marrying an Elias Morefield...

1860 - A William Womack found son of Henry and Susan AB Womack. Has
brother named Miles - Halifax Co VA.
A William M son of James and Mary - Halifax Co
And a William A - son of Archer --
All born between 1841 and 1845...

Eliz Wilmoth, age 14, Charlotte Co VA - daughter of Miles and Mary
Eliza A Wilmouth, age 13, Halifax Co, daughter of Susan, Halifax
Eliza Wilmoth, age 11, daughrer of Jemima, Randolph Co VA

1850 - Geter's mother Eliza born[based on 1910 census].
William R age 6 son of Henry and Susan - Halifax Co
William M age 6 son of Frances Womack, Widow..
William M age 1 month son of Achilles
Wm Womack age 3, son of Larkin, born NC - Buckingham Co VA Census

Eliza Wilmoth, age 10/12, Daughter of Samuel and Jemima Randolph Co
census Jul 27 1850. This is the only one close enough in VA.

Eliza Wilmouth, age 3, daughter of Yancey and Susan Rockingham Co NC

We are probably dealing with two Williams and two Elizas...missing census
data and Lord only knows what else --


Thursday, January 19, 2006 at 08:31:15 (PST)
Doretta
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Sam, Doris, Teresa - That William Womack problem of Halifax Co VA for now has me completly stumped, so I took a break and went looking for some unknown descendants of Henry Womack & Susan. I found the following: Robert E J Womack (son of Henry & Susan) married Louisa H Crowler/Crowder who is maybe the daughter of John Crowder and Mary Stegall. (Mary also married Nathaniel B Stegall d1840). Anyway Robert & Louisa/Louise 's daughter Emily R Womack (living 1926 & was named as Emily Francis in brother John H Womack's 1926 court data), married 2 Jan 1879 James Wesley "Jim" Francis b 11 Sept 1852 d 17 Sept 1937. Emily R was b 12 Nov 1859 Halifax Co Va d 11 Dec 1940 Va & is buried in Francis Family Cem, Drysburg, Halifax Co Va. Their children were: (1) Issac/Isaac H Francis, (2) Lou Fannie Francis m Charlie Thomas Buntin, (3) Mary Francis m William Anderson, (4) James Melvin Francis m Ola Torian, (5) Mattie B Francis b1889/1892 m Robert T Womack B abt 1890 and they had Sarah Ester Womack b 23 April 1912 who married 24 Oct 1936 Eugene Denwood Francis b1912 d1963, (6) Charlie Leonard Francis m Nannie Lona Smith, (7) Sallie B Francis b abt 1901 d before 2005 m Charlie D Smith. Now Emily R (Womack) Francis' sister Nannie Womack b abt 1871 maybe married 19 Jan 1887 Halifax Co VA to John E Francis b abt 1867, but in her brother's court papers , she is refered to as Nannie Buntin living Danville, VA 1926. ( By the way I am still interested in the William problem. Could Geter Bradshaw Womack have died in Person Co NCar? Also by any chance, could the Eliza reporting the children's deaths be two different mothers named Eliza? Rosa, the daughter of one Eliza and the other two children belonging to the other Eliza. Keep posting thoughts, it keeps me thinking about this problem from different angles.) My postings almost always need proving. Doretta


Thursday, January 19, 2006 at 08:46:00 (PST)
Jean Richardson
richardsonj@mailsantarosa.k12.fl.us

Mr. Smith,
My second grade class would like to feature you on one of the days of our Black History Month calendar.
Would you please send us something that we could put on display?
Thank you very much,
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2nd. Grade Teacher
Oriole Beach Elementary
1260 Oriole Beach Rd.
Gulf Breeze, Florida 32561


Thursday, January 19, 2006 at 11:33:52 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

OK People - another food fer thought! Some of these people are very elusive!

1880 Halifax Co Census, dwelling 263/family 264,Roanoke District

Womack R E J 46 looks like it may be REJ Jr [1834]
Eliza 36
John H 19
Mary R 17
Rose B 14
Robt L 12
Nanny 9
Chas 7
Edgar 3

Do we have REJ married twice, once to Louisa and then Eliza?

1870 Census same state/county/etc, dwelling 142/family 143

Womack, Robt E 37 [1833]
Louisa 26 [1844]
Emily 11 [1859]
John 9
Rosa B 6
Robt 2
Mary 7

1860 Census, Halifax Co, Sep 10, 1860, Dwelling 1008/Family 980
Womack, Robert E 26
Louisa H 17 [1843]
Amy 7/12 [1850]

1850 Census, Halifax Co, Dwelling 279/Family 281
Womack, Henry 50
Susan 40
Robert E 16
William R 6

1850 Census, Halifax Co, Northern Dist, Dwelling 543/family 546
Crowder, John M 31 VA
Mary A 30 VA
Louisa 6 VA
Susan 2 VA

1850 Census, Fredericksburg, Spotsylvania Co, Dwelling /family 63 Aug 1, 1850
This getting thick or what??
Bradshaw, Wm 47 all born maryland...
C [f] 21
Eliza 6/12 [1850]
Cannot locate this family on 1860 Census. VA nor NC.

REJ/Robert appears to be same Man with two different wives...but,
see death record below...

Checked NC death recoreds 1908-1968; however some of the earlier
records were only partial...

Womack, Robert E.
Gen. note Race: White.
Gender: Male.
Date of death: May 26, 1884.
Place of death: Halifax County.
Cause of death: pneumonia.
Age at death: 52 year(s). [1832]
Place of birth: Halifax County.
Occupation: farmer.
Note Source of information: Halifax County, 1884, page 4, line 18.
Subject - Personal Womack, Robert E.
Womack, Henry, father.
Womack, Susan, mother.
Womack, Lou, consort.
Womack, Lou, informant (Wife).



Thursday, January 19, 2006 at 17:26:20 (PST)
Teresa
resa1207@yahoo.com

Sam,
You got your timeline right with my info. You can see why I put this down for about a year and a half. It was driving me crazy. I dont see anyway to put my line together. I do think there must have been two different families. I tried to find Geter B. and Eliza with my gdad jeter P. in the 1920 census putting him at 5 years old. I couldnt find him anywhere. I also looked for Eliza and Andrew, I couldnt find them either. Its like they fell off the face of the earth! Thanks again for helping me. Im still searching!
Teresa


Thursday, January 19, 2006 at 18:24:44 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

*Halifax Co VA Records
Womack Records of Births

[I am only listing the births of white and unknown race]

Bettie Womack b. 10 Apr 1870 race: [left blank] Person reporting: J.W.
relation: father Father: Jacob Womack Father's occupation: farmer
residence: Halifax Mother: Sindy (Sandy?) Womack

Charles Womack b. Jul 1873 Race: White Person reporting: R. E. Womack
Relation: father Father: Robt. E. Womack, farmer Residence: Roanoke Township
Mother: Loving Womack

Edgar Womack b. 29 Oct 1877 Race: white Person Reporting: R. E. Womack
Relation: parent Recorded in Northern District Father: Robert E. Womack
Father's occupation: farmer Residence: Halifax Mother: Eliza Womack

Edgar Womack b. 30-1878 Race: white Person Reporting: R. E. Womack, Parent
Recorded in Northern District Father: R. E. Womack, farmer Residence: Halifax
Mother: Louisa Womack


Thursday, January 19, 2006 at 18:51:13 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

*Halifax Co VA Records
Womack Records of Births

[I am only listing the births of white and unknown race]

Child: George Womack
Born: 8 Nov 1870
Race: [left blank]
Person reporting: H.W.
Relation: Father
Note:
Father: Henry Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax
Mother: Alcy Womack

Child: Jno. D. Womack
Born: 23 Dec 1870
Race: [left blank]
Person reporting: MDFWW
Relation: Father
Note:
Father: M.D.F.W. Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax
Mother: Harriet A. E. Womack

Child: Lizzie C. Womack
Born: 5 Oct 1878
Race: white
Person reporting: Parents
Relation: Parents
Note: Recorded in Halifax Court House
Father: P.D. Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax Co
Mother: M.L. Womack

Child: Margaret F. Womack
Born: 27 Mar 1867
Race: white
Person reporting: Louisa Womack
Relation: Mother
Note: Place of Birth: Scottsburg
Father: [left blank]
Father's occupation: [left blank]
Residence: [left blank]
Mother: Louisa Womack
Number at Birth: 2

Child: Martha L. Womack
Born: 19 Sep 1868
Race: white
Person reporting: Father
Relation: Father
Note:
Father: Lafayette Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax Co
Mother: Harriet E. Womack

Child: Martha P. Womack
Born: 24 Apr 1877
Race: white
Person reporting: Lou Womack
Relation:Parent
Note:Recorded in Northern District
Father: [left blank]
Father's occupation: [left blank]
Residence: [left blank]
Mother: Lou Womack

Child: Mary A. Womack
Born: 19 Nov 1872
Race: white
Person reporting: James K. Womack
Relation: Father
Note:
Father: James K. Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Birch Creek Twnship
Mother: Sallie Womack



Friday, January 20, 2006 at 06:33:23 (PST)
Doretta
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Doris - Thanks. Now I have full birthdays and relationships for some of those kids on the census. Doretta


Friday, January 20, 2006 at 07:43:37 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Teresa
In case you missed my earlier post or what I sent in e-mail
1920 Census, Halifax Co, Roanoke District, VA
Morefield, Idella age 32 b. all on census born VA
Andrew age 52 born
Womack, Martha age 19
Letcher age 13
Phillip age 11
Hattie M age 8
Jeter age 4 and some 12's cant make out for sure,
which places him in 1915, I have him Jul 15, 1915.
Census was taken Feb 18, 1920.
So Geter's death was sometime before or after Jeter's
birth. I cant find him registered for WW1, but wonder
if he enlisted and perhaps was killed?

One of you [Doretta,Doris,Teresa] found this but am repeating:
1930 Census Roxboro Twp, Person Co, NC dwelling 113/family 124
Moorefield Andre J age 63
Della age 42
George M age 9. b. VA
Jeter is listed as
Patterson, Jettie age 14 b. VA
Hudson, John D age 2 11/12, grandson, b. VA


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Friday, January 20, 2006 at 14:33:01 (PST)
Doretta
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Doris, Sam, Teresa - We are dealing (I think) with 2 William Womacks, 2 Eliza Womacks and 2 Bradshaw Womacks. We all know about the William problem so I won't mentioned him. Now one Eliza Womack was born Jan 1870 VA and the other was Eliza A Womack born ca 1850 NCar. Now Eliza Womack born Jan 1870 VA is the head of household in 1900 in Halifax Co VA. She has a son Bradshaw Womack (age 6) born March 1894 VA and 2 other sons in her household. Now della Franklin married 31 Oct 1904 Bradshaw Womack in Halifax Co VA. Now he can't be the Bradshaw born March 1894 since that Bradshsw was only age 10 in 1904. Now we find on the 1910 Halifax Co VA Geter B Womack (age 25) (b 1885) and Idellar (age 27) (b 1883). They have a Eliza A Womack (age 60) (b 1850) in North Carolina living with them. This Eliza A Womack has given birth to four children of whom only three were living in 1910. What do you fellows think? Could I be right or am I wrong? Doretta


Friday, January 20, 2006 at 14:53:14 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Doretta
I think you have hit it right on the head - Two Williams, two Elizas -
I'll see if I can find an Eliza, unfortunately have no last name to go by,
age 9 or 10 on the 1880 - Sure wish that 1890 had survived!!

There is a William that died in 1897 - I think I have posted that one
before...could fit in with the widow Eliza of 1900 with three sons --
I have over 50 different, possibly more, Williams in my data base...

It appears the two families that had Bradshaws were related closely...
I still cannot fathom the difference in wives names for that R E J
[Robert E] Womack...Lou or Louise and Eliza [1880] But Lou was informant
for his death - Do we have an Eliza Louise here?

Oh well, lets hang in there and solve this thang!


Friday, January 20, 2006 at 15:37:26 (PST)
Teresa
resa1207@yahoo.com

Sam,

I must have missed your post on the 1920 census. I have spent I know at least two or three hours looking through the ancestry.com database for that info and never found anything.- Thanks!

I never thought about Bradshaw being inlisted. Where would I look for that information? When I talked to Lucy Wells last year at the Zora Womack Conner reunion she said that he (in her words) "drank himself to death". I also heard from someone else that he died of pneumonia. Lucy Wells is very old. In her nineties. I dont know how reliable her memory truly is. She also said he had a brother named Jeff. Lucy Wells is the only daughter of Zora left living. I dont know how to get back in touch with her. I left my name and number with her daughter in case she mentioned anything else that might be useful to me but I havent heard a word from any of them. You know some people are just not as interested in the past as others. Anyway I would like to persue the inlisted idea. Where should I start looking? Thanks
Teresa


Friday, January 20, 2006 at 17:03:31 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

*Halifax Co VA Records
Womack Records of Births

[I am only listing the births of white and unknown race]

Child: Mary E. Womack
Born: 15 Feb 1870
Race: [left blank]
Person reporting: G.W.
Relation: Father
Note:
Father: Green Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax
Mother: Mary Womack

Child: Maud Womack
Born: 7 Feb 1874
Race: white
Person reporting: C. W. Womack
Relation: Father
Note: Place of birth: Roanoke Township
Father: Chas W. Womack
Father's occupation: Lumber Man
Residence: Roanoke Township
Mother: Mary E. Womack

Child: Melvina Womack
Born: 3 Apr 1855
Race: white
Person reporting: Miles (M.E.?)
Relation: Father
Note:
Father: Marshall Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Clover Depot
Mother: Elizabeth Womack

Child: Miles Henry Womack
Born: 12 Mar 1871
Race: white
Person reporting: Wm. Womack
Relation: Father
Note: Place of birth: Roanoke Twnship
Father: William Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Roanoke Twnship
Mother: Eliz. Womack

Child: Nancy Womack
Born: Sep 1870
Race: [left blank]
Person reporting: [left blank]
Relation: Father
Note:
Father: Robt. E. Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax
Mother: Louisa Womack

Child: Nanie(sic) J. Womack
Born: 28 Jan 1870
Race: [left blank]
Person reporting: J.W.
Relation: Father
Note:
Father: Jack Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax
Mother: Lizzy Williams(?)

Child: Nannie E. Womack
Born: 27 Mar 1867
Race: white
Person reporting: Louisa Womack
Relation: Mother
Note: Place of birth: Scottsburg
Father: [left blank]
Father's occupation: [left blank]
Residence: [left blank]
Mother: Louisa Womack
Number at Birth: 2


Friday, January 20, 2006 at 17:22:52 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

*Halifax Co VA Records
Womack Records of Births

[I am only listing the births of white and unknown race]

Child: Nannie M. Womack
Born: 22 Jul 1877
Race: white
Person reporting: Parents
Relation: Parents
Note: Recorded in Halifax Court House
Father: Jas. K. Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax Co
Mother: S. J. Womack

Child: Nockswell(?)
Born: Jun 1874
Race: white
Person reporting: P.D. Womack
Relation: Father
Note: Recorded in Meadsville Township
Father: Polk D. Womack
Father's occupation: Laborer-(?)
Residence: Halifax
Mother: Mollie (Nellie?) Womack

Child: Paul D.
Born: 25 Mar 1876
Race: white
Person reporting: P. D. Womack
Relation: Parent
Note: Recorded in Halifax Court House
Father: P. D. Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax Co
Mother: M.L. Womack

Child: Sallie Womack
Born: May 1876
Race: white
Person reporting: Louisa Womack
Relation: Parent
Note: Recorded in Northern District
Father: None(sic)
Father's occupation: [left blank]
Residence: [left blank]
Mother: Louisa Womack


Friday, January 20, 2006 at 17:48:00 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

*Halifax Co VA Records
Womack Records of Births

[I am only listing the births of white and unknown race]

Child: Sam Womack
Born: 13 Jun 1870
Race: [left blank]
Person reporting: A. W.
Relation: Father
Note:
Father: Anderson Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax
Mother: Delia Womack

Child: Sibble (?) Womack
Born: 24 Jun 1871
Race: white
Person reporting: M.R. Womack
Relation: Grandfather
Note: Place of Birth: Roanoke Twnship
Father: C. W. Womack
Father's occupation: Sawyer
Residence: Roanoke Twnship
Mother: Mary E. Womack

Child: Susan Womack
Born: Feb 1874
Race: white
Person reporting: W. R. (B?) Womack
Relation: Father
Note: Place of birth: Roanoke Twnship
Father: Wm. R. (B.?) Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Roanoke Twnship
Mother: Susan Womack

Child: Susan Womack
Born: 6 Jul 1880
Race: white
Person reporting: R. Womack
Relation: Father
Note: Recorded in Northern District
Father: Robt Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax Co
Mother: Louisa Womack

Child: Thos. B. Womack
Born: 17 Dec 1870
Race: white
Person reporting: Jas. K. Womack
Relation: Father
Note:
Father: Jas. K. Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax
Mother: Sallie J. Womack

Child: William W. Womack
Born: Jul 1858
Race: white
Person reporting: Charles H. Womack
Relation: Father
Note:
Father: Charles H. Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax
Mother: Eliza Tucker (?)

Child: - Womack
Born: Nov 1859
Race: white
Person reporting: M. Womack
Relation: Father
Note: No name is given for child.
Father: Marshall Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax
Mother: Eliz. Womack


Friday, January 20, 2006 at 18:03:58 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

*Halifax Co VA Records
Womack Records of Births

[I am only listing the births of white and unknown race]

Child: - Womack
Born: 1868
Race: [left blank]
Person reporting: Farmer
Relation: Farmer
Note: This record almost completely unreadable.
Father: [left blank]
Father's occupation: [left blank]
Residence: [left blank]
Mother: Cleary Womack

Child: - Womack
Born: 1868
Race: [left blank]
Person reporting: Farmer
Relation: Farmer
Note: This record was almost completely unreadable.
Father: [left blank]
Father's occupation: [left blank]
Residence: [left blank]
Mother: Mollie L. Womack

Child: - Womack
Born: 12 Jan 1870
Race: [left blank]
Person reporting: T.W.
Relation: Father
Note:
Father: Tom Womack
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax
Mother: Lareth Womack

Child: - Womack
Born: 19 May 1870
Race: [left blank]
Person reporting: H.W.
Relation: Father(sic)
Note:
Father: Guy Womack(sic)
Father's occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax
Mother: Harriet Womack

Child: - Womack
Date of Birth: Aug 1879
Gender: Male
Race: white
Born Alive or Dead: Dead
Place of Birth: Halifax
Person Reporting: R. E. Womack
Relation: Father
Collection Notes: Recorded in Northern District
Father: Robt. E. Womack
Father's Occupation: Farmer
Residence: Halifax
Mother: Eliza Womack
Number at Birth: 1


Friday, January 20, 2006 at 18:58:36 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

All birth records information came from Mark Womack's work.

I should have done a better job posting the data.

Notes on the individuals listed earlier.

Melvina Womack is a female.

Nockswell(?) is male and I have the children for Polk Dallas and Mollie Womack and I don't have Nockswell or know which child he is. He was born alive, but maybe he didn't survive to show on census data. This is a Southern District Womack line.

Sibble(?) Womack is male born alive.

The only individual listed as born dead was the last one I listed. However, a number of those births which left the race blank also left the born dead or alive blank. If you need to know about an individual posted, place a query here at WGN.


Saturday, January 21, 2006 at 10:15:54 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Teresa
I have checked the WW1 civilian registration data base - nil on Geter - as far
as enlistments go - I have found no area I can check WW1 - the only alternative
is to go to www.nara.gov and click in on military and see if they will do a
search for you - at best that was just a poss thing to look into -

I am still stumped where this dude was in 1900 - and who the Eliza of 1870 was
attached to - but she obviously had some connection with Geter's family because
of the name similarity - perhaps she married a brother of Geter's father? Or an older brother of Geter?


Sunday, January 22, 2006 at 05:23:50 (PST)
ED COWAN
edmacow@netzero.com

WILLIE WOMACK 1897, DIED MAY 05, 1962. MONROE , WALTON COUNTY GA ? MARRIED TO DIDIUS WOMACK. WOULD LOVE TO KNOW MORE . CAN FIND VERY LITTLE ON THIS FAMILY ?
THANKS . ED COWAN


Sunday, January 22, 2006 at 09:13:34 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Ed
Dont know where those people were in 1900 and 1910; but did find them in 1920 and 1930. Not on Social Security Death Index; but Willie was on the Georgia
Death Index:

Georga Death Index:

Name: Willie C Womack
Death Date: 08 May 1962
County of Death: Walton
Gender: M
Race: W
Age: 66 years
County of Residence: Walton
Certificate: 15010
This may posibly give spouse and parent's names.

1920 Census, Richardson, Walton Co, GA
Womick, Willie age 23 He and parents born GA
Didus age 19 She and parents born GA

1930 Census, Militia District 250, Walton Co, GA
Wammack, Willie age 30 All born GA
Didus age 27
Sola age 9 [Lola?]
Lan E [f] age 7 [poss Lou E?]
Mary 4
Thomas age 1 11/12

Cannot locate on 1900 and 1910 censuses.
I used exact and soundex on name.


Monday, January 23, 2006 at 01:37:38 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Ed
I Hope you have read what I posted below - on an offchance they might have missed Walton Co when indexing - I went in and reviewed all census images [422] for Walton Co for 1900 - I also reviewed 41 for Richardson District for 1910.
Either these people were missed - or they were in another county and not indexed.


Monday, January 23, 2006 at 07:54:56 (PST)
LYDIA WOMACK
LYDIALVLND@AOL.COM

IN 2000 I STARTED TRYING TO FIND MY COUSINS, I HAVE NEVER MET. BUT, I REALLY WANT TO KNOW. I WANT TO KNOW MY FATHER'S FAMILY. I BELIEVE I SPOKE ONCE WITH ROGER WOMACK, I KNOW I'M RELATED TO JAMES GARNER. MY FATHER WAS STATIONED WITH HIS BROTHER. MY FARTHER'S PICTURE FROM AROUND 25 YEARS LOOKS LIKE HE COULD BE JAMES BROTHER. MY FATHER KEN WOMACK, FATHER WAS GEORGE WOMACK AND HIS MOTHER WAS RACHEL WOMACK. PLEASE HELP ME FIND AS MANY RELATED TO ME. MY FATHER WAS THE YOUNGEST OF 14, I'M THE YOUGEST OF 8 WOMACKS. THANK YOU FOR ANY NAMES AND E-MAIL ADDRESS. TIME IS RUNNING SHORT IN M CHANCE TO MEET MY FAMILY MEMEBERS. SO, PLEASE ANY ANYTHING AT ALL, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW YOU,THEM. THANK YOU, LYDIA WOMACK


Monday, January 23, 2006 at 14:13:48 (PST)
Anne M Davies
amd08202@msn.com

I am looking for Theo Womack. Born around 1935-1940, Father M.Raymond Womack Mother Theora Womack. Grandparents were Schuylar Noah and Nannie E Womack, From Cahttanooga, Calhoun, Cleveland area. His Father, Ray,was my Mother's first cousin. Her maiden name was Mary E Onley. I do not know if he is still alive. I can not find anything else about him. Would appreciate any info.


Monday, January 23, 2006 at 16:48:55 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Anne
Do you have any dates on any one other than Theo's estimated dates??

And what you are saying is that your mother was a daughter of one of Nannies
brothers?? I think Nannies parents were Edward and Malissa Randolph Only.
The last name spelling varies, Only/Onley - poss Olney..

Schuyler was the son of James Alexander IV and Rebecca Higdon...which you may
already have from previous correspondence -- I cannot locate Theo anywhere.

Also, could his mother's name have been Theodora ratherthan Theora?- I so she is on the Social Security Death Index[SSDI]....

A little more information and mebbe can pull a little more out -- anything after 1930 is rather hard unless on the SSDI or a state death or marriage index.


Tuesday, January 24, 2006 at 12:10:35 (PST)
Diana Lynn Walker Sphar
dlynn_walker@yahoo.com

I just saw the posting for *******Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 21:25:30 (PDT)****
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net
Derrell, Ann and Jim Lotspeich,
**************************************
this posting references the DAR and Levi Berry Womack (robert BEEN/Bean) and William Womacks

I am of this line and was having some problems with this area myself. DAR basically said that This line was CLOSED I am not even sure what that means, but If you folks are still working on this line I would be interested in anything else you find. I am copying these posts to read later.

Thanks

Diana
Ella - Janie -
Eva - 1901
Rhoda Jane Womack - 1872 Scottsboro, cherokee, Alabama m Eddie Stevens b 1873
William Riley Womack - 1826 TN m Lucretia Taylor 1832
Levi Berry womack b abt 1803 NC m Martha Beane


Tuesday, January 24, 2006 at 22:01:55 (PST)
Beth
bhowser

Diana,

Whose Revolutionary War Record are using for your DAR application? Captain Robert Bean or Maj. Jacob Womack? You descend from both.

Beth


Tuesday, January 24, 2006 at 23:19:36 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Diana
Someone else said they got a "line closed" on Maj Jacob Womack - It may be possible because someone went in with the wrong wife - Mary Wills Cole - who was his cousin's, also a Jacob, wife.. - I have protested this for years - Mary Wills was my 4th Great granny - And, Cole wasnt even her maiden name, Wills or Wells was. I go with her son Daniels Bible records which states Wills...
Major Jacob is merely a distant cuz of some number to me. His daddy and my 6th were brothers..

As far as the Martha Womack/Robert Bean/Been connection I havent any idea what
may have clouded that issue..


Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 03:19:16 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Diana,

I have the complete research of the late Bettye Sitton Reed, which was graciously given to me by a Bean descendant. Bettye submitted her application in 1987 for DAR membership and was admitted 22 Feb 1988 to DAR as a descendant of Maj. Jacob Womack Of course, she descended from Jacob's daughter, Martha Womack, wife of Capt. Robert Bean (son of John Bean). There is no proof of his other children. Her work is primarily based Jacob Womack's line, but I must admit, she included almost everything written about the Womacks at that time!

I also have copies of most of the book, "The Bean Tree" copyrighted 1986 by the late Estelee Bean Rankin, based on the family of Robert Bean and Martha Womack, in which I found there is evidence of Martha Womack being the daughter of "a" Jacob Womack of Watauga. I must point out there were two Jacob Womacks of Watauga. Lowry Franklin Owens, great grandson of Robert Bean and Martha Womack, wrote in 1951 that his great grandmother, Martha Womack married at Watauga, and her father, Jacob Womack was one of the early settlers there. I have not copied the text verbatim because it's copyrighted.

I concluded that Ms. Reed did not present sourced evidence of Revolutionary War service for Jacob Womack. One must "assume" that he was involved with the Battle of Kings Mountain, because he lived among the two hundred forty Sullivan Co., TN "Overmountain Men", who fought under John Sevier, but I've seen no proof. Estelee Rankin indicated that early historians credited 16 yr. old Robert Bean for killing British Maj. Patrick Ferguson, I presume at Kings Mountain. This information was also not sourced. Also, there was another Robert Bean, son of William Bean, in this era.

The Bean researchers are satisfied that Robert Bean (Martha Womack) was the son of John Bean and Robert Bean (Rhoda Lane) was the son of William Bean.

Bettye Sitton Reed is just one more researcher who in 1986 definitely thought that Maj. Jacob Womack had but one wife......Sarah. And that would be Sarah Johnson.


Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 05:36:35 (PST)
ED COWAN
edmacow@netzero.com

ROBERT EDWARD WOMACK, WIFE FLORENCE .JASPER COUNTY GA . HENDERSON- COOK DISTRICT ? ANYONE HAVE A FAMLY LINE ON THIS FAMILY ?THANKS ED


Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 05:37:21 (PST)
ED COWAN
edmacow@netzero.com

ROBERT EDWARD WOMACK, WIFE FLORENCE .JASPER COUNTY GA . HENDERSON- COOK DISTRICT ? ANYONE HAVE A FAMLY LINE ON THIS FAMILY ?THANKS ED


Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 10:58:55 (PST)
Diana Lynn Walker Sphar
dlynn_walker@ yahoo.com

Beth
I did not actually submit a full application. I sent only a beginning request and was turned away before I ever got started. I guess I submitted a request on Maj Jacob.

Most of the genelogy I have is from this site, LDS (even I have found errors in many of those files) and other online sources. I have started doing some library research to begin the verification of my own line. Marriage licenses, census records and birth and death records.

I do have in my genealogy that I am descended from two Womack lines. I only started a few years ago and then I got interruped with the raising of my two granddaughters (now 7 and 3). I don't have a lot of time for my own research, but I continue to visit here because of all the work this group continues to do (SAM!) and others have been such a great help to me. I know some of my line is fairly well documented.

Beth I would dearly love to have (or know how to get) the documents you spoke of.

I am a computer nerd and I hope to compile the documentation and photos I have acquired into a book for other researchers

Not for profit, but so that my granddaughters and future generations will have everything at thier fingertips and not have to go hunting for every bit of evidence that we have already found.

As for copyrighted stuff I would at least like to compile a reference or bibliography of those materials that relate to our line.

many thanks for the information you have provided

I am also working on several other lines (walker, penix, fulfer) when I can, but as I said I've got my hands full with "the girls"

diana


Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 12:23:51 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Diana
these links refer to a Captain Jacob Womack
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tn/grainger/military/revwar/pensions/massenga197nmt.txt
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tn/sullivan/military/revwar/pensions/massenga196nmt.txt
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tn/hawkins/military/revwar/pensions/cobb173nmt.txt
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tn/sullivan/military/revwar/rosters/womack01.txt
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tn/sullivan/history/sullivangspd.txt

Also, have you went here and requested a Patriot lookup from the DAR, and looked for the info on how to get a copy of what they have on individuals?

http://www.dar.org/natsociety/pi_lookup.cfm

I read at one time or another that Jacob Womack provided meat and a cart or something to the war effort - such actions were. I think, considered performing service to the war effort....US Gen Web used to be a lot easier to query that it is today - somehow a lot of the ability to access data has been lost with their new format --

As Beth mentioned, there were two Jacobs at Watauga - and I guess the question is which one was the right one; or, were they both involved in the war effort?
It is hard to consider that Jacob was married and only four potential children have been found - J0hnson, William, Sarah and Martha --

Could the other that was not one of the 13 have been his son?? Since Jacob was born ca. 1729; he certainly was of the age to have a son old enough to sigh the petition of Watauga...and also since they usually tended to have large families back then; more than 4 children would not have been out of the ordinary...

I doubt, now, that we will ever get to the bottom of who the other was or all of Jacob's children; we just need to verify what little we have...


Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 12:41:51 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Also

From the Old Womack Genealogy Volumes

WOMACK PAY VOUCHERS, REVOLUTIONARY WAR, NORTH CAROLINA

1781 - Burke County - Jacob Womack - paid 261 Spanish milled dollars (to bear interest at 6%) - for 378 lbs. of fresh pork.

1782 - Salisbury - Ensign Jacob Womack - 15 Pounds - 4 Shillings - "for services done by him & company of foot Mil[itia of?] Burke Regmt."


Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 15:36:30 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

In my post of July 5th, I named the proposed children found to date. I am adding one more:

8. Eliza Womack d. ca. 1806 m. (Rev.) Thomas McBride 1796 White Co., TN. He was b. 27 Jan 1777, d. 29 Apr 1857, son of James McBride and Mary Crawford.

Children of Eliza Womack and Thomas Crawford McBride were:
1. Jacob McBride, (1798-)
2. Charlotte McBride (1800-)
3. (Dr.) James McBride (1802-1875)
4. Lavina McBride (1804-1860)
5. (Dr.) Thomas C. McBride (1806-1848)

List of Insolvents Living within the Indian Boundary for the Year 1797
(Which the County Court of Grainger Released the Sheriff from Collecting)
(excerpts)
McBride, Andrew
McBride, Thomas
McBride, William
Womack, David
Womack, Jeremiah
Womack, Jonathan (Johnson?)
Source: Transcribed from the original records, in the custody of the Tennessee State Library and Archives, by Pollyanna Creekmore in 1949

Source: Thomas Crawford McBride Pioneer Oregon Gospel Preacher
http://ncbible.org/nwh/ProMcBrideTC.html

Item 6. Mrs. Arthur Bowman says that her ancestor, Thomas Crawford McBride, M. c1800 to Eliza Womack. They named their oldest son Jacob probably for her father, since the second son was named James for Thomas' father. The third son was named Thomas, after his father.
Source: WOMACK GENEALOGY - Volume I, Number 1
http://www.womacknet.com/sources/wgv1n1.html

Grainger Co, TN - 1799 - David Womack, Johnston Womack Grainger Co, TN court records 1796 - 1802
(WPA transacription at TN State Archives) - several mentions of Jacob and David Womack. In one court record, Jacob referred to as Major Jacob Womack. In another court record, Jacob and David listed together as part of a jury to lay off a road.
{So Jacob was still alive between 1796 and 1802 in Grainger Co. bh}

Jackson Co, TN - 1802 - David Wamack, John Wamack. Jackson Co, TN was adjacent to White Co, TN until 1842 when Putnam Co, TN was formed. David and Johnston Womack apparently moved from Grainger Co, TN to Jackson Co, TN, and thence to WHITE CO., TN. By 1816, they had moved to Lawrence Co, AR (which was then part of Missouri Territory).

In "TN Land Grants" the Tennessee land grant of Larkin Warmack, 13 acres, WHITE CO., TN Grant # 6189, and David Wormack, 10 acres, WHITE CO., TN Grant #6414.

Source for above three entries: Web Page of Robert Burke
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~reburke/lines/data/womack/ew/other/tn_womack_records.html

I told Diana by email that she actually descends from Womacks in three ways:

Martha Bean, dau. of (1) Martha Womack and Robert Bean, married
Levi Berry Womack, son of (2) William Womack (son of Abraham Womack and
Nancy Ann Blanton) and (3) Lucy Womack (dau. of Thomas Womack and Louvisa
Rice).

It makes you wonder how Martha Bean, granddaughter of Maj. Jake met and married the grandson of Thomas and Louvisa.


Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 15:42:58 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

I made an error on the parents of William Womack, who married Lucy Womack. I believe he was the son of Abraham Womack and Elizabeth Stubblefield. William and Lucy were half-first cousins.

Jack, please get me straight on this one!


Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 02:50:48 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Beths latter post - William as son of Abe and Elizabeth Stubblefield Womack
is correct as I have it - And I think I got that from Jack sometime ago.


Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 03:31:46 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Teresa, et al
Browsing thru the VA State Library collection I found this during a search for
Womacks:

Bradshaw, Herbert Clarence, 1908-1976:
Papers, 1803-1976..
11.56 cu. ft..
Location Archives and Manuscripts Room ; Manuscripts ; 29605

Maybe in these papers is an answer. Unfortunately you have to go to the VA
State Library to see them...


Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 07:30:38 (PST)
Diana Lynn Walker Sphar
dlynn_walker@ yahoo.com

Thanks for the help everyone.
(sam, beth, roger, jack, Oscar)
With THREE lines I really need to find a cousin who wants (or had already) participated in the Womack DNA project!!

It looks like a descendent of William Riley Womack b1825 or 1926 TN(son of levi berry and martha bean)m Lecretia Taylor Womack b1832 would be a good candidate. Plus they had about ten kids in addition to my gggrandmother Rhoda Jane Womack.

I don't know how may married and had kids, but there were for sons. Riley R, Robert, george and John F.

I know John F married and had two daughters and three sons. His daughter Laura b 1878 married his sister's (Rhoda Jane Womack m Eddie Lee Stevens) brother-in-law Adolphus A Stevens. His three sons are J.W. Womack b 1879, Frank b 1892 and Robert b 1896

I'm pretty sure George W. had several sons Horace b 1892, Otis b 1894, William Jennings b 1896, Frank b 1910 abd Hesse N b 1916 and possibly Levi b 1919.

Riley R had three boys I think Russell b1906, Gus b 1908 and Pierce b 1910

I believe Horace (son of George, william riley, Levi, William, abraham)had two or three children, but I do not have any information on them.

Anyone out there from one of these lines??
With Rhoda Jane (my gg grandmother) being female the closest I can come to a DNA match would be a descendent of one of her siblings.

I wonder what having all three lines will do to the DNA??


Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 15:36:06 (PST)
Teresa
resa1207@yahoo.com

Sam,
It looks like I need to take the invite from my cousin in Richmond to come and go to the library. Could you tell me what you think I should focus my search on when I go? Ive been told the library is HUGE! I would only have about one full day of searching. Anyone else out there with any tips? Thanks


Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 20:14:26 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

Teresa,

Re: your visit to LVA. Check with your local library and/or call LVA before you go to see if you can find out which items can be sent on inter-library exchange and don't use your time at the Library of Virginia on these items. You can order these items through your local library and the LVA will send them and you have, I believe one or two weeks to go through each item you order and most of the time you can renew just like you would renew a book. I would order one item at a time and before you finish going through the first item, order the next item. It doesn't take that long to get the item if they have a copy, the delay happens when all their loan copies are out in cirrculation.

For instance, marriage, birth, death, indexes to deeds, court orders, etc. I don't know all the things which can be sent inter-library loan. You may want to do some of this so you have a better idea where to narrow your search. This is a free service and the information comes to your library on microfilm and your library will have the microfilm reader and will show you how to use it. You look through it at your leisure each day you come to the library. It is tedious work, and when you get tired, take a break because you will miss something. It is like you get to a point and you don't know if you even saw the last few pages.

A few years ago, they were filming the Halifax records at the Halifax Courthouse for the LVA. They had already filmed it once, but the copy was bad, and so they were refilming. It should be completed by now. Of course, there was a funding cut to the LVA a few years ago, I don't know what effect this had on the operation.

North Carolina most likely has this service from their State Library as well.

Info. on Library of Virginia

URL for home page
http://www.lva.lib.va.us/

URL for info. one needs to know before visiting library.
http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whoweare/visit/index.htm

Library's main telephone number is 804-692-3500.
A picture ID with your current street address is required to obtain a library card and use our collections.
Hours
Monday - Saturday 9:00 AM until 5:00 PM.

Visit their online pages to get the other information you will need to know before you go which will help make your search time beneficial.

Based on where you are in your research, I think marriage, wills, accounts, and inventories will yield the best results.

Another suggestion which I have wanted to do, but haven't yet, is to visit the funeral homes in Halifax to see what they are willing to let me go through. The Powell Funeral Home and I believe there was another one which I don't know if they are still in business and offhand I can't think of the name, but I believe it was three surnames together with one of the surnames being Martin - I used to know the Martin man's first name but can't think of it now. There is also Brooks Funeral Home, but I don't know when they first went into business. The people at Powell Funeral Home can give you the name of any other funeral home which may have been in business and they might know where their records would be, if they have gone out of business. Cemeteries keep records also. Many in Halifax are buried at their Churches. The Library in Halifax has copies of the Cemetery volumes which were done some years back. Look in the WGN archive for the name of the compiler - run a search on "dcox" or "doris" and it should come up where I responded to you a few years back.

Good Luck Teresa!


Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 20:18:29 (PST)
linda jehle
whitesocks@in-tch.com

I am trying to connect with Ina Cannaday that posted on this website in November of 2005. I tried Ina's email but it comes back as an unknown user. Ina if you read this post please contact me at whitesocks@in-tch.com. I am also related to the Womacks. Flurida Odelia Womack is my Great Grandmother. I am related through her son, Herman Hamilton. I have some information to share. Linda


Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 20:34:36 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

Teresa,

I found obits for three of Zora's children, Frank, Josephine, and Rosa. Do you have these obits?


Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 22:40:30 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

This is another thing to ponder....er...study! Sorry it's so long. And please remember, some of this is abstracted from the research of others. I also don't know if the editor of "Womack Genealogy" just added 'The Watauga Settlement' information as a source for F.M.'s writing or if he wrote it. This issue has not been formatted.

Francis Marion Womack was nephew of Levi Berry Womack, who married Martha Bean, dau. of Martha Womack and Robert Bean. His grandparents were William {son of Abraham and Elizabeth Stubblefield} and Lucy {dau. of Thomas and Louvisa}. His aunt by marriage was the granddaughter of Maj. Jacob. I asked myself this question: Which side of the family {Womack or Bean} did he learn the following info?

Excerpts from WOMACK GENEALOGY VOL. IV, NO. 1 - JUNE 1960 - WHOLE NO. 7
SKETCHES OF THE WRITER'S FAMILY By F. M. Womack

"....THE WAWAUGA SETTLEMENT See G. R. McGeets author of History of Tennessee a history which has been adapted for use in the Public Schools of Tenn. From page 53 to page 61 inclusive you will find a history of the Watauga and other settlements, where the people met in general convention and elected a committee of thirteen men who were to act as a legisla tive body and make laws suited to the needs of the Watauga and other pioneer settlements of Tenn. We find that William Bean and Jacob Womack [Womacl were chosen members of the committee of thir teen. WE CLAIM THAT THE FAMILY TO WHICH WE BELONG ARE CONNECTED TO THE SAID BEAN AND WOMACK, while the letter (k) is left off the name Womac as appears in said history we are fully satisfied that it is a typographical error. We find that the first county court ever held in Tenn. which was then called Washington County and embraced the entire boundarys of what is now known as Tennessee was held at Watauga Settlement in the Eastern division of the State in the year 1778., and that said Bean and Womack were members of said County Court...."

In the above excerpt, F. M. was talking about William Bean, whose son, Robert Bean, married Rhoda Lane, if the Bean researchers are right. Did F. M. mean his Womack family was related to the William Bean family? That's what he wrote! How are they related to the William Bean family?


"....Then they { F. M. was speaking of his parents, Isham Rice and Mary Ann Stewart Womack} moved to Swedens Cove now Marion County, Tenn., lived there about four years, bought a piece of land where Louis Pain {sic Payne} now resides, if living, and his house stood within about 60 yards of where the Louis Pain residence now stands. Father and mother told me their reason for leaving Swedens Cove was that the Cove was pretty much filled up with relatives and that they were intermarrying among each other. There were many of the Beans, McBees, Pains and other families connected to fathers family (all good people however)...."

In this excerpt, he was probably talking about the family of Robert Bean and Martha Womack. This Robert Bean, according to the Bean researchers, was the son of John Bean. {John and William Bean are related....maybe brothers} Robert died 1824 Sweden's Cove., Marion Co., TN. William Womack, husband of Lucy Womack, d. 1820 Sweden's Cove., Marion Co., TN Lucy died in Sweden's Cove, Marion Co., TN. My point is: Robert and Martha Womack Bean and William and Lucy Womack lived near each other. Their children married.

What Bean, McBee or Payne married into the family of William and Lucy Womack? I know that their son, William "Buck" Womack m. Sarah McBee, but that's all I see.

I guess I've posted this to ask the Womack researchers in their opinion, how did Martha Womack Bean become so closely associated with a totally different Womack line? I was concerned for a long time whether Martha was actually the dau. of Maj. Jake, and thought she might be the daughter of the "other" Womack line. But a couple of days ago, I posted the evidence of her father. Could there be an error in the Bean researchers thinking that Robert Bean (m. Martha Womack) was the son of John Bean? Or Was F.M. just speaking in broad terms when he wrote,"...WE CLAIM THAT THE FAMILY TO WHICH WE BELONG ARE CONNECTED TO THE SAID BEAN AND WOMACK..."

Any thoughts?


Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 23:12:18 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Teresa
Those papers cover 11.36 cubic feet - so cannot say that they will do on interlibrary - that is a lot of records....


Friday, January 27, 2006 at 11:14:08 (PST)
Doretta
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Sam, Tersa, Doris - The only Bradshaw data that I can at this time come up with, is GABRIEL GARNER GUNN BRADSHAW. (His name interests me because WOMACK & GARNER married in Halifax Co VA, but I haven't been able to find any GARNER connection to Gabriel.) Anyway Gabriel's parents seem to be Polly Gunn & ___ Bradshaw. Polly's relative Griffin Gunn married Vashti Womack b1810, daughter of David Womack & Delilah Graves. The David I am talking about, I believe was the son of John Womack & Lucy ___, and grandson of David Womack & Mildred Pryor. Anyway Delilah Graves seems to be the daughter of Ann/Nancy Slade & John Hendon Graves & granddaughter of Thomas Slade & Hannah Miles. Delilah married first in 1800 David Womack and second in 1819 (a relative) Abner Miles. Also another relative of Delilah Graves was Priscilla Miles who married Samuel Henderson. --- Beth, My own direct lines of Hendersons and Nolands are connected I think to this Samuel Henderson. I know of a Phillip Noland who was killed in the Texas area when it still belonged to Spain. William Bean/Been who was with Phillip, was taken prisoner by the Spanish Soldiers. I think William lived and went home years later. Doretta


Friday, January 27, 2006 at 12:50:05 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

This is going to be a rather large post, I apologize for that; but it needs to
go all at once:


1 Ralph Graves
........+Judith 1 Womack
........2 Sally Graves 1756 -
Sally's birth recorded in records of St James Northam Parish,
Goochland Co, VA, born Sep 1 1756, Chirstened Oct 10, 1756.

Judith was daughter of William and Sarah Woodson Womack.
William being son of Abe I...

I do have a David married to a Delila Graves, Mar 24, 1800, in Caswell Co NC
This couple had TWO daughters Vashtin in 1810; Vashti in 1814.
However that was an LDS entry and Ancestry has a Nancy born 1810.
I have a John Womack who married abt 1772 a Lucy Pryor Tapley. They had a son,
David b. abt 1775 who had a daughter, Vashti b. abt 1800[LDS date}.
This John was son of Richard III and Ann "Nancy" Childers. This appears to be the one
mentioned in the earlier post. Whether or not this is the correct one, I cannot vouch
for it. David, who married Mildred Pryor, was a son also of Richard III.
LDS has John and Lucy as this Davids parents...


David and Mildred had daughter Vashti born about 1848.

A Vashti married Griffin Gunn, Sep 18, 1837, Caswell Co, NC.

Another Vashti b Oct 29, 1802, Womack Hill MS, married a John Baker Jr
abt 1820, probably in MS - Altho this John Baker died Nov 11, 1838 in TX.
This Vashti was the daugher of John N and Frances Coleman womack.
John N was son of Jesse and Dorothy Pryor Womack..Jesse brother
to David who married Mildred. I think Dorothy and Mildred were sisters.

Richard III was brother to Alexander Sr, my 6th great.

From Goodspeed's History of Indepenence Co AR [I am throwing this in because
of the name Robert Bean]:

"In 1812, one John Reed, from Missouri, cut down the first tree on the site
where it now stands, and erected a small store house, and with a supply of
notions and whisky traded with theIndians, trappers and hunters. His example
was followed during the next five years by C. Kelly, Robert Bean, Boswell,
Ringgold and Redmon."

"Col. Robert Bean ran the first keel-boat up White River and established
himself at the mouth of Polk Bayou (Batesville) in 1814."

Have no idea who this Robert Bean is unless perhaps a son/nephew/cousin
of the one who married Martha Womack...

John Bean was Coroner of that area 1821-1823; and there was a Jesse Bean
on the 1830 census.


Friday, January 27, 2006 at 15:10:24 (PST)
Teresa
resa1207@yahoo.com

Doris,Sam,

Thanks for all the info! I now have to schedule time to do this hopefully sometime in Feb. I will keep you all posted.

I dont have the obits you posted and would love to have them!
Thanks


Friday, January 27, 2006 at 21:00:32 (PST)
Doris
dcox@kerrlake.com

Teresa,

I emailed those obits - living individuals.


Saturday, January 28, 2006 at 06:56:41 (PST)
Teresa
resa1207@yahoo.com

Doris, Thanks! I recognize some of the names. Ill try to make contact with some of them. Who knows maybe one of them will know something!


Saturday, January 28, 2006 at 19:20:52 (PST)
sam
samsawadee@msn.com

FYI, My United Kingdom information has been reloacted to:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dubbie/UK/index.html

One or two links have been lost and will be updated when found...

Wouls like to make a suggestion for saving your data in case of computer
crashes -- Buy one of those external cases that hold a regular hard drive, install a hard drive in it, and plug it it -- I did that with an old 30Gb drive
and now have all my family stuff, or in process of converting, on it..If the
computer kaputs, I still have the info on that drive -- Of course you can buy them already put together - but that can be expensive, especially if you have an old drive sitting useless somewhere -- Nice thing about it is that I can
carry with my laptop and plug it in and use it...

I am also backing my regular computer files into a similar 100gb external drive.


Sunday, January 29, 2006 at 15:29:48 (PST)
Kevin Thompson
nivek@alpacacriations.com
http://users3.ev1.net/~nivek000/Genealogy

Hello. I am looking for someone that has documented proof of the marriage and children of John N. Womack, Sr. He was born 25 Dec 1776 and died 29 Jul 1848 in Washington County, Alabama. He married Frances Coleman (14 Feb 1781, d. 29 Dec 1852 in Grimes County, Texas). I have his will, but not all of his children are mentioned. I specifically need proof of his marriage and parentage to his son John N. Womack, Jr. I am also looking for proof of the marriage of John, Jr. to Tabitha Ford (I can't seem to prove her maiden name).

Any info will be greatly appreciated!

Kevin Thompson
Conroe, TX
nivek@alpacacriations.com


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Sunday, January 29, 2006 at 17:34:19 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Kevin
Sent you a some what lengthy E-mail -- Would make one suggestion - since it
appears John Sr was married abt 1797 in GA - poss Washington Co, a looksee at
their marriage records may help...have nil on marriage pf JOhn Jr, yet..


Wednesday, February 01, 2006 at 08:59:54 (PST)
Randy Womack
RSKJWomack@aol.com

Attention Halifax Womacks (Sam, Doris, Doretta, Teresa)
I cannot add much more than y'all have already posted

Robert E Womack was in fact my great great grandfather
I do think that you are talking about two different Williams and two different Elizabeths.Robert E Womack's wife was Loise Crowder.They had many children, one by the name Edgar Green Womack, and his daughter, who just recently passed was Loise Elizabeth Womack. I believe that she was named after her grandmother Louise Crowder Womack.She is survived by a sister who is eighty-five years old and live in Richmond Va.

Also Robert Lemuel Womack has a living daughter who was born around 1914.She did not know her grandmother Louise Crowder Womack which leaves me to believe that she was already deceased at this time.

The eldest daughter of Robert and Louise was Emily who married James Francis. Doretta spoke of a cemetery in Dryburg. I have been there and have seen many unmarked graves.I believe many Womacks are buried there, but i have no proof of this.I do know Emily was like a second mother to all the siblings and that the Francis house was a large home just down the road from the cemetary.

Teresa, my father knew Jeter and Letcher Womack, and they lived in the Mt. Laurel area.Jeter had a daughter who was good friends with my aunt, Bobbie Jane Womack, who married James Wolf. I live in Richmond and my be able to go to the state library for you if there is something specific that you need.


Wednesday, February 01, 2006 at 15:06:49 (PST)
Randy W. Womack
rskjwomack@aol.com

TO: HALIFAX WOMACK'S:
A CORRECTION NEEDS TO BE MADE TO THE INFORMATION I PREVIOUSLY SENT TO YOU EARLIER TODAY.

EDGAR GREEN WOMACK'S DAUGHTER WAS LOUISE ESTELLE WOMACK.



Friday, February 03, 2006 at 09:51:22 (PST)
Doretta
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Randy - It is great hearing from you. Your posting has helped me to understand a little more about the Halifax Co VA Womacks. But I still can't figure out the following problem about BETTIE. Something is mixed up. I have that JOHN H WOMACK b Aug 12 1861 d Feb 23 1926 is the son of Robert Womack & Louise Crowder. Also I have that John H married Bettie _____ B Feb 5 1864 D March 22 1909. Now I also have where Branch S Throckmorton in his will written 16 June 1920 bequeaths everything to J.H. Womack and appoints him executor of his last will. The will was probated May 1 1925 in court with W.M.Meyers and Peachy Gregory and J.H. Womack saying it was Branch's last will. Now I have JOHN H WOMACK who in his will written Feb 13 1901 nominates and appoints his wife BETTIE E the sole executrix to his will. Now on Feb 27 1926 BETTIE E WOMACK with A.L. Williams and F.A. Waddell come to court to probate John H Womack's will. Also on Feb 27 1926 Bettie E Womack names John H Womack's heirs who were his brothers and sisters. I have the heirs listed as children of Robert Womack and Louise Cowder. Now I say Bettie couldn't have died in 1909 if she was executrix in 1926. Did John H Womack marry twice? to 2 different Betties? Or is the J.H Womack of Throckmorton's will and John H Womack different men? Was one of those BETTIEs a Throckmorton? Does the death date of 1909 really belong to a Bettie but not to John H Womack's wife Bettie E? Could one of those ELIZA that we have been talking about, be a ELIZ (Elizabeth)(Bettie) and born Feb 5 1864 and (or just) died on March 22 1909? Sam, what do you think? Does anyone have any insight on any of the people named? Sorry for so many questions. Doretta.


Friday, February 03, 2006 at 15:12:23 (PST)
Sam

samsawadee@msn.com

Doretta, Teresa, Randy, et al
This is quite long, sorry, but needs to be together. I think we are dealing with two or more families with same or similar names --

1880 census, Roanoke, Halifax, VA
R. E. J. WOMACK Self M Male W 46
Eliza WOMACK Wife M Female W 36 [census is quite clear on name]
John H. WOMACK Son S Male W 19
Mary R. WOMACK Dau S Female W 17
Rose B. WOMACK Dau S Female W 14
Robt L. WOMACK Son S Male W 12
Nanny WOMACK Dau S Female W 9
Chas WOMACK Son S Male W 7
Edgar WOMACK Son S Male W 3

1870 Census Roanoke, Halifax, VA
Womack, Robert 37
Louisa 26
Emily 11
John 9
Rosa B 6
Robt 2
Mary 7

1860 Census, Halifax Co
Womack Robert E 26
Louisa 17
Amy 7/12 [is this really Emily?]


1850 Census, Northern District, Halifax Co, VA

Henry Womack 50
Susan 40
Robert E 16
6 siblings

then in 1900 Census, Richmond, Jackson Ward, Richmond City VA
I find a Louisa A Womack born abt Jan 1843 head of house no
other womacks living with.
--------------------------------------------
And of course we have all seen this one:
From Va State Library Files.
Womack, Robert E.
Publication [1884].
Gen. note Race: White.
Gender: Male.
Date of death: May 26, 1884.
Place of death: Halifax County.
Cause of death: pneumonia.
Age at death: 52 year(s).
Place of birth: Halifax County.
Occupation: farmer.
Note Source of information: Halifax County, 1884, page 4, line 18.
Note Part of the Death Records Indexing Project which is sponsored by
the Virginia Genealogical Society.
Subject - Personal Womack, Robert E.
Womack, Henry, father.
Womack, Susan, mother.
Womack, Lou, consort.
Womack, Lou, informant (Wife).
------------------------------------------------------
1880 Census, Northern District, Halifax Co
B S and Sarah Throckmorton ages 40 and 34 respectively
1870 Census, Staunton, Halifax, VA
Branch Throckmortons wife Sarah A.. he age 30 she age 25 no children.
1860 he was in Roanoke Distict, Halifax, VA age 20
1850 Northern District, Halifax, VA age 10
1910 Census
Womack, John H 47
Bettie E 45
Throckmorton, Sallie 78 [mother-in-law]
Note: The census says Bettie had born no children, none dead...
so that is probably why he had his brothers and sister in his will.
A good question here is why Branch wrote a will in 1920; but
his wife is with John and Bettie? And listed as a widow??
I cannot find a marriage date on this John H and Bettie...

Odd is that on the 1900 there is a John Throckmorton,age 75
that has a 60 year old Sallie, mother living with. She has had one child
still living..So dont believe Bettie is of this Branch and Sarah Marriage, do you?
Next family is John H Womack age 25, wife Sallie age 23
Son Ernest age 3; daughter Berny age 1----


Friday, February 03, 2006 at 20:53:24 (PST)
Doris
dcox @ kerrlake.com

This is what I have on R E Womack.
Robert Edd Womack b abt 1834 d 26 May 1884 Halifax Co VA
Father: Henry Womack
Mother: Susan A. B. [maiden name unknown]
Wife: Louisa H. Crowder b abt 1844
Married: 14 October 1858 Halifax Co VA
Children:
Emily R. Womack b abt 1859 m James R. Francis 02 January 1879 Halifax Co VA
John H. Womack b abt 1863 m Bettie Elizabeth Throckmorton 06 November 1882 Halifax Co VA
Mary R. Womack b abt 1863 m John Godsey
Rosa B. Womack b abt 1864 m1 Allen Ferrell m2 J. S. B. Cash
Robert Lemuel Womack b abt 1868 m Pattie Roberts [I have their marriage in paper files but not on computer] They were married in Charlotte Co VA
Nanny Womack b abt 1871 m1 John E. Francis 19 January 1887 Halifax Co VA
m2 Eli W. Hill
Charles Watson Womack b abt 1873 m1 Sallie Ola Hudson m2 Nellie Pearl Hudson
Edgar Green Womack b abt 1877 m Lula [maiden name unknown]


Saturday, February 04, 2006 at 04:28:41 (PST)
RANDY
RSKJWOMACK@AOL.COM

DORRETA: BETTIE E WOMACK IS BURIED BESIDE HER HUSBAND AT CLOVER TOWN CEMERARY. ON HER TOMBSTONE FEB 5 1864 AND MAR 22 1929.SO I HOPE THAT HELPS YOU OUT.ALSO BRANCH THROCKMORTON IS BURIED BEHIND THEM I BELIEVE HE WAS IN THE CIVAL WAR. DORIS EDGAR GREEN WOMACK WAS MARRIED TO MARY L SEAMSTER THEY ARE BURIED BESIDE EACH OTHER AT MAURY CEMETERY IN RICHMOND


Saturday, February 04, 2006 at 08:35:54 (PST)
Doris
dcox @kerrlake.com

Randy,

You said that your father knew Jeter and Letcher Womack. Did your father ever state whether they were related; if so, did your father say how they were related?


Saturday, February 04, 2006 at 10:50:12 (PST)
ED COWAN
edmacow@netzero.com

FLETCHER WOMMACK, ALFRED, WOMMACK, LULA WOMMACK,LUDIE E WOMMACK. THERE FATHER WAS, JAMES EDWARD WOMMACK, MOTHER FLORENCE WOMMACK . FROM JASPER COUNTY GEORGIA
THE HENDERSON- COOK DISTRICT #292. FOUND A FEW OF THEM. NOT MUCH ON THIS FAMILY
IF ANYONE CAN HELP / PLEASE CONTACT ME ? THANKS ED COWAN


Monday, February 06, 2006 at 15:48:52 (PST)
Doretta
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Sam, Doris, Randy - Thanks. You fellows have been helpful. Your postings help me to update some of the data that I receive quite sometime ago from who I think was maybe Roger at WGN. Anyway it was when I first started working on Don's branch of Womacks of Halifax Co VA.. What you fellows have posted does show that the death date of 1909 for Bettie E Throckmorton Womack was most likley a typo. I have now corrected it to 1929. The data that I had didn't give Bettie's last name. Throckmorton was a lucky guess on my part. Anyway since your postings, I have checked RootsWeb to see what could be found. There was a Elijah Throckmorton who married 3 times. One marrige was 10 Dec 1859 Halifax Co VA to Sally Ann Saunders B abt 1840 and they had a daughter Bettie b abt 1863. Bettie had an older half-brother named Branch S Throckmorton b abt 1840 who married Sarah A _____ b abt 1845. It seems that this Bettie is maybe the Bettie E who married John H Womack, son of Robert & Louisa. Doretta


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Tuesday, February 07, 2006 at 05:24:54 (PST)
Randy
rskjwomack@aol.com

Doris, My father does not know if they are related to him, sorry. He hasn't been much help to me either.


Thursday, February 09, 2006 at 14:28:28 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Jack, Sam and other participants of the Womack DNA project:

There's a Womack family willing to participate in DNA testing. Based on the info I have, they descend from one of William (son of Abraham and Eliabeth Stubblefield) and Lucy's (dau. of Thomas and Louvisa) sons. More than likely it's Josiah's line, since we've eliminated William and Lucy's other sons. Thomas (m. Louvisa) was the son of Abraham Womack and Ann Blanton. William (m. Lucy, dau. of Thomas and Louvisa) was the son of the same Abraham Womack and Elizabeth Stubblefield. So we would have to compare the new DNA to a a descendant of William's or his brothers, John, Joshua, Levy or Jeremiah's descendants.

I have the following questions regarding any further DNA testing:

1. How would we compare the new participant's DNA to the previous participants? I guess I mean "who" would do this. If I remember correctly the test results are sent to a project administrator. Jack was the co-administrator, but I'm not sure he's in a position to do any further administrative work at this time. How 'bout ya, Jackson?

2. Would the male descendants of Thomas (m. Louvisa) and the descendants of William (m. Lucy, dau. of Thomas and Louvisa) have comparable DNA since they both descend from Abraham?

3. On the "Final Report", does anyone see any previous participants to compare with? Since Jack descends from Abraham, I guess his DNA would be a close match.

Does ANYONE have an opinion?


Thursday, February 09, 2006 at 15:20:15 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Oops.....I missed a generation....Abraham Jr. was the father of William. I kept thinking about Jack telling me William and Lucy were first-half cousins, and went back to the family group sheet....Thomas (m. Louvisa) and was a half brother of Abraham, Jr. Sorry for the confusion.


Thursday, February 09, 2006 at 20:53:46 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Beth,
Yes, I have an opinion.. If Abe I dfescended from William the Immigrant and
Richard I and the others were his brothers - then I should have the same DNA as
Jack - My match to Jack is less than 80% - yet with Roger and another or two, I match 95% or better - I also match 93.3 with a Meeks and 85% with a Lindsay.

So, somewhere back there, there were some adoptions or something where the name Womack was applied, but the people were not.. My opinion-- The DNA testing we did indicated about 3 disctinct lines that were supposed to be from the immigrant; but were barely close enough to call cousin if that...
Any testing will help; and, if you have someone willing to do so; let them have at it...anything will help..

Andpuhleeze dont let Montiel and Jerry and those confuse you that a match can be made from a male to a female -- as I understand it nope...


Thursday, February 09, 2006 at 21:46:01 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Sammers~

We might have been born at 10th and center....ten miles from town in the center of the woods....in Arkansas, but Montiel and Jerry didn't pull the wool over our eyes one bit. A mother's mtDNA can be passed from mother to son, but the son cannot pass it to his children. Besides adoption and other "affairs of folks" we suspect in many lines, look at the times we've learned that the offspring of Abraham Womack, Sr. intermarried. And his Blanton son's line married back into the Womack family.

Some time I'd like to hear about the Meeks and Lindsay lines!


Friday, February 10, 2006 at 06:11:04 (PST)
Darrel and Judy Womack
jwma@comcast.net
www.tribalpages.com/tribes/mccarty

Beth and Sam

Darrel matched with Roger in the DNA, and would be more then happy to share the numbers. Good luck with his test.
When my computer crashed and fried, I lost a lot of contracts, Jack's DNA page was one of them. I have learned to copy on an other computer all your contracts.


Friday, February 10, 2006 at 08:26:14 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Darrell and Judy and Beth

To Darrel and Judy, thanks I knew there was someone else that matched Roger and I - did Darrell post his DNA to the Womack DNA page??

To Beth - for what it is worth - remember James Garner's granny was a Womack
that married a Meeks - I havent been able to identify the one I match so close, but suspect it may be a Womack raised as a Meeks...just a thought --
James' goes back to Richard III who was a brother to my Alex Sr.

As far as Lindsay, also Fife and a couple others in the 80 percentiles - I am
still working on identifying those -- Will post when, and if, I find out something.


Friday, February 10, 2006 at 08:46:23 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

To all who want to know where the DNA results are posted go here:

http://www.ybase.org/sfound.asp

If it doesnt work with the /sfound.asp - drop that, go to the main page and
click on search by surname---some of the results have who they are; some dont.

We do need more participation - I am trying to get some Womacks in England to
do the testing - that would sure help a little in maybe identifying the approximate area ours came from -- To bad we couldnt have convinced Jan to have her husband do the testing before we lost contact with her...

I am in contact with a lady, maiden name Womack, father still alive and in England; father's brother alive and in Australia - they both came from
one of the Lophams in Norfolkshire..her father is quite sensitive about family ancestry [dont we all know how that goes!!], but hopefully she can convince him to do a DNA test and furnish us with the results for the Womack DNA page - I have their family line back to Arthur Womack who died Jun 1607..will proved
Jun 27, 1607..

The more we can get the better - so some of you male Womacks that havent participated - could we ask if you would consent to obtain a DNA test and post the results to the above page?


Friday, February 10, 2006 at 10:17:45 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Hey Judy..

Through the generosity of our researcher, Robert Burke, we still have the participants, their lineages and results posted on the web! Be sure and check the "Final Results".

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~reburke/lines/data/womack/dna/index.html


Friday, February 10, 2006 at 11:18:55 (PST)
Sandi Phillips
sphillips@tucsonairport.org

Hi Sam

It's funny that you would mention Meeks - my grandmother, Marie (Jacobs) Womack Meeks, was married to Paul Meeks - who was her second husband. Grandma Marie was married first to my father's dad, John Palmer Womack. I have not been able to find out much about the Jacobs', or Meeks, but will look into that further.

Sandi


Friday, February 10, 2006 at 21:31:10 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

On those final DNA results posted by Robert - mine and Fred's are incorrect.
Ours had to be redone --

My following markers should read as follows:
385a-11, 385b-14, 437-15, 438-12, 439-13, 461-12, a10-13. The rest are OK.
Matching those of Roger and some others much better than shown..


Friday, February 10, 2006 at 21:42:51 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Judy-Darrell
If you have an old hard drive lying around doing nothing - and it is 10 gigs or
higher, buy a case to fit it in for an external hard drive - it wont be affected by crashes - store all your genealogical data in it -- just remember to reformat the old drive before installing -- if you dont have one - you can buy them already put together - but they are more expensive than rolling your own - a 20gig here was $119 -- I bought a 100g drive and a case for 97 including tax. Then bought another case for 39 and installed a 30gig in it..
I use the 30 for my data - and am going to drop the whole harddrive from the computer into the 100 -- Then, let it crash!!

One more tidbit, if you drop stuff into an external drive from the net - ensure you do some spyware, virus checks on it periodically even if you do have a good virus and firewall protection - I am using spycatcher 2006 running in the background and it drives me crazy catching stuff the firewall dont!! A ding ding here, a ding ding every where!


Saturday, February 11, 2006 at 12:59:37 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Beth Dorinda Jan
Posting this here as mail keeps getting bounced back from Jan --

The FHC here does not have the Ingersoll book, nor does SLC -- Will see if
Library of Congress has [I think it does] and get on interlibrary loan ...


Saturday, February 11, 2006 at 13:36:56 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Never mind the Library of Congress - Benjamin is here -- someone has indexed the names in the book:

http://www.mindspring.com/~wdlanier/index5.html


Saturday, February 11, 2006 at 16:18:46 (PST)
Fred & Judy Womack
fredjudy@bellsouth.net

"LANIER" by Louise Ingersol, 4th printing 1981, Goetz Printing Co, Springfield, VA
is available in most Georgia libraries. Which Benjamin is the topic of Sam's recent post? The Laniers who came to southeast GA in the 1770's are well documented from several sources. Several original records remain in County Probate records and at GA Archives.


Saturday, February 11, 2006 at 19:30:27 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Fred-Judy


Saturday, February 11, 2006 at 19:31:35 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Fred-Judy
OOPS methinks
Benjamin Womack who Married Mary Lanier - I found the index list of names on line...no papa for Ben in there...


Saturday, February 11, 2006 at 20:31:13 (PST)
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Sunday, February 12, 2006 at 20:51:53 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

I just posted a request for DNA testing on all the Womack message boards on Rootsweb.. Maybe we will get some participation???


Monday, February 13, 2006 at 10:25:54 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Sam and anyone who has this info,

For those who are interested in DNA testing and have a straight-line male Womack, please advise where to obtain a testing kit, including approximate cost, etc.


Monday, February 13, 2006 at 19:45:32 (PST)
Sam
sammers

Beth
Here are a few places where you can check for the best prices and speedy results. Ensure those testing ask for at least a 21 or higher marker test.

http://www.genelex.com/
http://www.genebase.com/
http://www.genetrack.com/ancestry/
http://www.familytreedna.com/genbygen.html
http://www.cyndislist.com/dna.htm
http://www.relativegenetics.com/relativegenetics/index.jsp
www.dnaheritage.com [based in England where most of us had ours done]
http://www.worldfamilies.net/
http://smgf.org/


Tuesday, February 14, 2006 at 07:28:23 (PST)
Jamie
birls@boone.net

Some DNA testing advice...I'm a project administrator for 2 surname projects (it's an easy job!)and we use FamilytreeDNA in Texas. IF you want to use this company, here are some tips: there is a surname project that has been set up for the Womack surname, but it has no members....the guy that has set it up has done so for a lot of random surnames so I don't know his connection to the Womack's. I would still suggest that anyone interested join thru this project (if you want to use this company) since it will save you $60 over testing independantly! (Go to www.familytreedna.com and at the top right there is a box for surname search....type in Womack and it will show 3 options: 2 for some Florida projects that include Womacks and 1 just for Womack. Click the blue link and it will take you to the Womack page.) I don't know about the other companies, but this one also includes general ethnic heritage and would tell if any direct male ancestor was Native American. Once you order the kit, it usually arrives in 2-3 days (depending on where you live!)and after you return it, it usually takes about 6 weeks for results. The wait is the hard part!

Sam is also 100% correct...don't order any test less than 21 markers! FamilytreeDNA does theirs by 12, 25 or 37 markers. 25 is usually a good starting point and one can always ask for an upgrade to more later without taking the test again. Sam is also right on the money that regardless of which company that you test with, be sure to upload your results to Ysearch.org (it's free too!) Hope this helps!


Tuesday, February 14, 2006 at 16:19:19 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

In addition I suggest also updating to ybase.org, relative genetics and Sorensens also - the more you post to - the better chance of hitting somewhere.

I did a check on Sorensens - I possibly have mentioned this before; but, I matched with a Meeks [94%+] closer than I did Jack and a couple others -- In fact, I had about 20 hits higher - most from 80 to 88.80 % - I had two other hits in the 90's that were not Womacks - One one of these postings, I matched in the 90%iles with a Fife [Barney?].


Wednesday, February 15, 2006 at 05:46:34 (PST)
Shirley Hight-Page
sdiana_48f@yahoo.com

Hello everyone, Hi Sam. I have been reading the messages about the DNA. I am a distant cuz of Sam and it has been told through the generations that we had Native American heritage and I would really be interested in finding out for sure if this family folklore is a tall tale or fact. I understand that I can order a DNA test for females but is this as accurate as for males.

diana


Wednesday, February 15, 2006 at 06:19:12 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Diana
A DNA test for yourself would prove who your mother was; and maybe females on back - however, I know little about that one. There is a test to see, yes/no
answer only I understand, for Americal Indian heritage -- one of those I listed
below does that -


Wednesday, February 15, 2006 at 18:10:46 (PST)
Doretta
DREEC@EKNS.NET

Sam, Beth, Doris and anyone else who has an interest or data or proof that proves or disproves any of the following. First, has anyone from Henry Womack & Susan's line through their son Robert of Halifax Co Va taken the DNA test? Also has a descendant of Thomas Womack & Sarah Owen been DNA tested? Second, could Thomas Womack & Sarah Owen's son Abraham be the one who married Tabitha Hudson and the son of Thomas Womack & Louivsa Rice be the Abraham who married in 1804 Susannah Parker? It is said that an Abraham Womack married 21 Oct 1686 in Halifax Co VA to an Tabitha Jane Hudson. Could the marriage date of 1686 by any chance be a typo? The date of 1686 is before the county of Halifax was formed. If the marriage was in 1686, it could not have been recorded in Halifax Co VA if there was not a Halifax Co VA. Should the date maybe read 21 Oct 1786 Halifax Co VA? Last, I wonder if Thomas Womack & Sarah Owen are maybe Miles & Henry Womack (of Halifax Co VA) connection to the main Womack bunch. Miles & Henry were sons of William Womack who was the son of Abraham Womack. I think this Abraham is the one who married Tabitha Hudson and is maybe the son of Thomas Womack & Sarah Owen. I don't have enough data or proof to really say for sure. What do you fellows think? Doretta


Thursday, February 16, 2006 at 20:56:56 (PST)
Doris
dcox@ kerrlake.com

Doretta,

Re: has anyone from Henry Womack & Susan's line through their son Robert of Halifax Co Va taken the DNA test?

Yes, Mark Womack.

Re: has a descendant of Thomas Womack & Sarah Owen been DNA tested?

Yes, Lyle Leon Womack, care of daughter Margy Granger.

Abraham Womack married Tabitha Hudson 17 August 1785 Halifax Co VA, Bk 1 Pg 8, Bondsman: Fred Vaughan Witness: Frederic Vaughan, Stephen Jones Signer of Certificate: Tabitha Hudson.


Friday, February 17, 2006 at 07:36:43 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Not putting any names for privacy reasons, here are how the results of the DNA
testing, plus 2 others I found closely related:

Group 1
14-14-15-14-12-28-23-10-11-13-12-11-16-10-11-13-10-12-13-22-12
14-14-15-14-12-28-23-10-11-13----11-16-10-11-10-12-13-13-22-11
14-14-15-14-12-28-23-10-11-13-12-11-16-10-12-10-12-13-13-22-11

Group 2
13-12-14-12-14-31-24-10-13-13-12-12-15-12-12-11-12-11-12-23-12

Group 3
14-11-14-12-13-29-23-11-13-14-14-12-15-12-13-10-11-12-13-25-12
14-11-14-12-13-29-23-11-13-14-12-12-15-12-13-10-11-11-13-25-12
14-11-14-12-13-29-23-11-13-14-12-12-15-12-13-10-11-11-12-25-12
14-11-14-12-13-29-23-11-13-14-00-12-15-12-13-10-12-11-13-25-12
14-11-14-12-13-29-23-11-13-14-00-12-15-12-13-10-11-11----25-12 [Meeks]
14-11-14-12-13-29-23-11-13-14----12-15-12-13-11-12-11-13-25-11 [Fitzpatrick]


Saturday, February 18, 2006 at 06:11:04 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Will the real Womacks please stand up? I am sort of fascinated with the DNA
correlation between those of us who have been tested. Here is a brief look at
how odd the results really are:

Notice the claimed descent. Note the difference in the DNA.

14-14-15-14-12-28-23-10-11-13-00-11-16-10-11-10-12-13-13-22-11 [Abe I]
14-11-14-12-13-29-23-11-13-14-12-12-15-12-13-10-12-11-12-25-11 [Abe I]
14-11-14-12-13-29-23-11-13-14-00-12-15-12-13-10-12-11-12-25-12 [Richard I]
13-12-14-12-14-31-24-10-13-13-12-12-15-12-12-11-12-11-13-23-12 [earliest ancestor listed 1801]
13-00-00-12-14-30-24-10-13-13-12-12-14-12-09-11-12-11-12-23-12 [wife beater John]

Theres enough marked differences in the first 2 that being related thru
a common ancestor is very remote. However, in 2 and 3, there is enough
to indicate descent thru a common ancestor. As there is close evidence
for 4 and 5.

This would indicate that somewere after Abe I something happened...whether
it happened after Number 1; or after 2 and 3, is unknown--However, there
is enough marked difference to indicate neither John, nor the later
person[number 4], was a true brother to any of the first three...


Sunday, February 19, 2006 at 05:33:37 (PST)
Fred Womack
fredjudy@bellsouth.net

Sam,
When you & I retested, my final report was
13 12 14 12 14 30 24 10 13 13 12 14 15 9 12 11 11 11 12 23 12

I never updated the final results to ysearch. org, but will correct that error soon,
Fred


Sunday, February 19, 2006 at 07:01:19 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Fred
Thanks - When I find my password, ect, I am going into ybase and deleting the
erroneous test. If you have yours, you can add the correct and delete the old
ones -- There is a place to click in to have the sign in/pass sent to you - I'
just hope I didnt use another e-mail address that the one I use mostly now..


Sunday, February 19, 2006 at 20:49:02 (PST)
max d womack
lindascleaners@hotmail.com

j.a.(dooley)womack of camden,ar,went to be with the lord feb 16,2006,born nov 1,1924 in princeton,ar,to andrew jackson & thelma lawernce womack.he was a graduate of princeton h.s.and henderson state teachers college and was elected to the arkansas house of rep before graduting from college.an office he held for two terms followed by four terms in the house & 12 yrs in the arkansas senate.afterward he was a realtor,he leaves his dear wife elizabeth ann (amy)harrell womack & three son, lance andrew,tim a.& carey don womack and a daughter,anna leah womack teagarden, he was a methodist,proctor funeral home is in charge of arrangements and burial in memorial park cemetary in camden,ar


Monday, February 20, 2006 at 15:46:40 (PST)
Ina Cannaday
inaruth@hotmail.com

My new Email address above for anyone trying to contact me. Changed from: inaruth@earthlink.net Still tracing Flurida Womack and cannot find father named William David Womack.


Monday, February 20, 2006 at 22:23:33 (PST)
Beth
bhower@alltel.net

Ina,

Linda Jehle is trying to contact you about your family! She is Herman Hamilton's granddaughter. Her email addy is whitesocks@in-tch.com

Beth


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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 at 10:28:38 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

As a reminder:

When posting queries, as a minimum: name(s), first and last, maiden, married,
any dates available, real or estimated, state(s) lived in; parents names. This gives those of us who try to respond to a query something to go on -- And may enable us to respond to you at all.


Wednesday, February 22, 2006 at 10:15:21 (PST)
Jamie
birls@boone.net

A bit more on the DNA subject: The Feb 6, 2006 issue of Newsweek had an interesting article on DNA testing.

The following is ONE explanation for why there can be DNA matches to other surnames...I'm sure this didn't only happen in Wake Co NC! (I've left out some of the legal mumbo-jumbo)

Wake County NC Bastardy Bonds

“The State vs. Matilda Laurence Wt for BASTARDY. ……Whereas information having bin this day made to us Green Huckabe & James Huckabe two of the acting Justices…Matildah Laurence Single woman…has been delivrd of Child…which was born a bastard and may become Chargeable to County….Therefore Command you to apprehend and bring Said Matildah before us…..to answer above Charge & be further dealt with….25 December 1828” (on back was written) The Examination of Matilda Laurence Single Woman This day before us…being Chargd with being deliverd of Child which was born a bastard, who saith on oath that William Womack Junr did Begitt the Said Child and hath Charged him with Same….16 January 1829”

Also on 16 January 1829 a warrant was issued for the apprehension of William Womack Junr on charges of Bastardy. On the back of this warrant was the note that William had been brought before the justices and had entered into Bond and Security 14 February 1829.

“The Justices vs Wm Womack BASTARDY BOND Feby 1829. Know all men by These preasants (sic) that we Wm Womack, Willie Womack & Warren Sugg are held and firmly bound unto the Justices…in sum of five hundred dollars…to which payment will and truly be made, we bind ourselves……this 14th day of February AD 1829. Condition of above obligation: above boundd William Womack stands Charged according to Law with being the reputed Father of a Bastard Child of which Matildah Laurence has lately bin deliverd….above Bounded William Womack his heirs Executors &c do and shall from time to time and at all times hereafter acquit, Discharge and save harmless the overseers of the Poor and inhabitants of Said County from all Costs Charges & trouble whatsoever for and by reason of the Birth Maintenance & bringing up of Said Child and from all suits Charges and demands whatsoever touching and concerning the Same….[signed] William Womack Junr Wilie (mark) Womack Warren Sugg Jas Huckabe JP Gn Huckabee JP”

Then the SAME DAY! Another Bond for $500 worded basically as the above except as follows: “William Womack Stands Charged according to Law with being the reputed Father of a Bastard Child of which Salley Olive has lately bin Deliverd….” signed same as above


Wednesday, February 22, 2006 at 11:24:04 (PST)
Fred Womack
fredjudy@bellsouth.net

Sam,
I updated my DNA at both ybase and ysearch. At ysearch I found near matches(genetic distance 2) for 8B7Z8 Geer amd J9MTB Williams. I've emailed both hoping for a response soon.
Fred


Wednesday, February 22, 2006 at 17:06:56 (PST)
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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 at 17:09:41 (PST)
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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 at 17:12:28 (PST)
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his6694@womacknet.com
his6694@womacknet.com

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Friday, February 24, 2006 at 08:19:20 (PST)
Sandi Phillips
sphillips@tucsonairport.org

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Friday, February 24, 2006 at 10:52:27 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Sandi
Naaah! We got us a bird, mebbe two or three, that gonna get their feathers
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Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 01:17:00 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

OOOKK! Enough is enough - I have copied all those posts and forwarded them to
the FCC for action --


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Sunday, February 26, 2006 at 17:47:35 (PST)
Phyllis H. Womack
PHWMW@Aol.com

Thanks for all the information. I am trying to connect Abram Minter Womack born 24 Jly 179 in Georgia (?)to the Virginia Womacks, died in Anderson Texas 19 October 1861. He married Elizabeth Combs Robinson in Milledgeville, Georgia 8 Sept. 1825. My husband is his great, great, grandson, William Minter Womack, Jr. Please help! Thanks, Phyllis


Sunday, February 26, 2006 at 19:45:21 (PST)
Diana Hight
sdiana_48f@yahoo.com

Thanks Sam for taking care of this problem

diana


Monday, February 27, 2006 at 10:29:31 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Diana, you are welcome, and I do hope something will be done.

Phyllis,your connection to VA working backwards:

Abraham Minter Womack and Elizabeth C Robinson Jones Co Ga to Anderson Co TX
William Womack and Mary Ann "Polly" Silvey Hancock Co GA
Jesse Womack and Dorothy Prior Prince Edward Co VA to Madison Co Ga
Richard Womack III and Ann "Nancy" Childers Henrico Co Va to Burke Co GA
Richard Womack II and Elizabeth Ann Puckett Henrico Co VA
Richard Womack I and Mary Elizabeth Ruth Puckett Henrico Co VA

Probably needs a little more verification and this is info I have received from
various sources..


Monday, February 27, 2006 at 12:00:43 (PST)
Carol Krajnik
carolk8013@sbcglobal.net

Sam, thanks so much for taking care of the problem. These posts are maddening and hopefully we can get rid of them for good.


Monday, February 27, 2006 at 19:22:32 (PST)
Kelsey Martin
kelsey_martin2012@hotmail.com

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Monday, February 27, 2006 at 21:39:34 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Carol
thank you - but cant say for sure taken care of - does look like we got
a nuther idjit posting... If any of you would like to copy, paste and send
some of this junk on - the address in fccinfo@fcc.gov - perhaps if they get
enough complaints on the same area - they might react more promptly - but give them a break, they get tons of this crap all the time..


Tuesday, February 28, 2006 at 12:55:47 (PST)
Charlotte Womack Cooper
CCTenaha@yahoo.com

Yesterday I found the WOMACK census listing on freepages at Roots Web, and today it says the web site is closed or has moved. What's going on here? It had the 1910, 1920, 1930 censuses with all the Womacks listed by county. Any suggestions?


Tuesday, February 28, 2006 at 16:01:17 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Charlotte
If you are talking about the census pages I put up on RootsWeb - they are still
there and accessible thru www.samsawadee.net - left column near bottom -
Beth had that problem also -- dont know why - just checked and they are there.


Tuesday, February 28, 2006 at 16:02:52 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee

Charlotte
This cold and whatever else it is has got my head all screwed up
Thats righ column near bottom -- sorry..


Wednesday, March 01, 2006 at 09:12:21 (PST)
Charlotte Womack Cooper
CCTenaha@yahoo.com

Thanks Sam, for your suggestions. I was able to gain access to the data. This time I printed it out so I won't have this problem again.


Wednesday, March 01, 2006 at 14:42:07 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Charlotte you are welcome..

By the way, anyone looking thru those censuses and finds an error or addition,
let me know and I will correct with an annotation per whoever - bear in mind
that those indexes are not always accurate - In one instance I found a child
but not the rest of the family who was on the image but not the index..I have
found entire counties lef tout in Arkansas and Illinois I have tried to go
thru watch one that doesnt have too many images pages; over 60 I draw a line at!
I think either the 1850 or 1860 TN, maybe both, left out groups of people
that I added from reviewing the microfilm years ago -- also keep in mind that
there are many, many variation of the last name - generally, a search on
soundex for Womack or Warmack will pick them up - but not always - One of these days I am going to go through and check each one individually and see what
happens -

In the meantime what is there is helpful as shown --- Hopefully most of you
availed your self of a review of the WWI draft registrations and the WWII
enlistments -- I think I also have a list of deaths and POWs, etc or am
working on them --

I am dropping three of my domains and consolidating the sites on RootsWeb - I
have already moved, en-masse, my British data, and links to Rogers Brit data,
over -- was getting a bit pricey -- If you go to my main web site and click in
you wont notice any change at all, except the URL is different..
I will be deleting all census data from the state pages since they are listed
on their own now -- I will leave the Arkansas Sheriffs censuses where they
are on the Arkansas page...there are other state censuses out there and I will
find and place them in their proper aspect as they are found and recorded.

In the meantime, if any of you find any broken links, please let me know so
I can fix them. thanks
Sammers


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Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 06:28:50 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Obviously this rulez666 person had no proper upbringing - more than likely raised in a pig pen with all the ooze and slime - if this person had had a
mother and father [which I seriously doubt] IT would not be the type person IT
is today -- rather tend to lead to a more kindly and gentle approach towards
others, not harassing them. Ms or Mr Rulez666, when you say yor prayers tonight,
make sure they are to God; and not Satan as it appears where your admiration lies.


Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 09:01:11 (PST)
Pamela J (Womack) Gutsche
Ladygrizz258@yahoo.com
none

Sam Please I hope you are more open minded about people that have other beliefs other then Christan. I myself believe in other beliefs. I do not try to influence any one. What you and others believe in , is right for you and when someone believes in is right for then. As for Rulez666 this is not a web site for useless website advertising or pushing of. Please if you have something to tell let it be on the subject matter at hand. Not a bunch of garbage there is enough of that on the internet as it is. Thank you for listening.
Also some news my mother Ester Womack from Plattevill, WI Passed away on Dec. 18th 2006. It was a long and hard fight for her. But she is now in peace. If anyone wants more information please contact me. I will be glad to give it out.
Again thank you fro letting me state my mind.
Pamela Womack Gutsche


Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 09:07:32 (PST)
Pamela J (Womack) Gutsche
ladygrizz258@yahoo.com
none

Please forgive me for misspelled words. I have a white cat that likes to lay in front of the keyborad. The town is Platteville, WI she was cremated and buried at the Greenwood Cemeitary. Again forgive the bad spelling.


Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 14:16:55 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

In response to Beth's and my complaint to the FCC, the following was received:

In reply to the complaint to the FCC regarding the over 100,100 posts RULEZ666 made in February on the web, I have been directed to the Federal Trade Commission. If any of you Womack researchers are annoyed by this person and understand that he is using valuable space on WGN, you can file a complaint with the FCC. The email addy for the FTC can be obtained at http://www.ftc.gov


Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 18:15:28 (PST)
Karen Marie Wilson
wil1962@aol.com

I am searching for a Lester Womack. He was my paternal great grandfather. He married Francis Vera Golden in Harralson County GA on Dec 9 1898. They had two children my grandmother Eva Viola and a son James Henry. My grandmother was born in Dallas GA in 1900. I believe Lester or G. L. Womack as it is on the marriage certificate was born in 1878 in GA. in 1904 Vera passed in Alabama and somewhere between 1904 and 1910 the two children were given up to their grandfather Rueben F Golden. My father remembers taking a trip when he was 9 or 10 to Georgia with his mother to visit her father but he had died just previous to her visit. This would have been around 1944. He remembers Lester had remarried and had at least one daughter around his age. I dont believe that Lester wanted to give his children up to their grandfather and tried to stay in TN to be close to them but was "ran out of town" so to speak. My grandmother had a hard life with her grandfather and I would so love to find her real fathers family and history.


Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 18:18:31 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Pamela
Sorry to hear about the loss of your mother...

Now the posting I made: I dont believe anyone can say I slammed any particular
religion - I have been around Muslins, Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, Jews and
whatever else -- yeah, even atheists..I am pretty open minded about religion.

In the future, if you have anything to say to me on a matter such as this, I trust you will have the courtesy to use direct-to-me e-mail.


Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 19:34:35 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee

Karen
Did a little snooping around and came up with the following[which needs
to be further verified but will give you a start]:

1880 Census - Haralson Co GA
William WOMACK Self M Male W 37 AL Farmer --- ---
Francis WOMACK Wife M Female W 38 GA Keeping House SC SC
James WOMACK Son S Male W 18 GA Works On Farm AL GA
Sarah WOMACK Dau S Female W 16 GA Works On Farm AL GA
John WOMACK Son S Male W 14 GA Works On Farm AL GA
William WOMACK Son S Male W 12 GA Works On Farm AL GA
Violia WOMACK Dau S Female W 5 GA AL GA
Henry WOMACK Son S Male W 5 GA AL GA
Lester WOMACK Son S Male W 1 GA AL GA
==============================================
1900 Census Haralson Co GA, 7th District

Womack, Lester age 20 born GA
Frances age 21
==============================
Another one where I had to find the child to find the parent!

1920 Census, Emerson, Bartow Co, GA
Womac Lester age 41
Cora age 28
Eva Age 7 [1913]
Dora Belle age 5
Felton W age 3 1/2
==========================================

1930 Census Emerson District, Bartow Co, GA [may or may not be them, but good bet]
Womack, G Lester age 46 born GA
Cora age 38 GA
Felton W age 14 GA
George L Jr age 7 GA
Barbara age 5 GA
==========================================
In 1910, Reuben Golden [wife Rena] was in Emanuel Co GA -
no Womack children with him..

I cannot find George Lester 1910 nor Eva nor James Henry


Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 19:35:42 (PST)
Diana Hight
sdiana_48f@yahoo.com

Sam and other Womack cousins; I am taken aback with these messages that keep popping on this web site. If you notice the numbers used at the end are 666. What is this? Can we not have a web site without all of this for a lack of a better word-garbage? I hope it stops soon. I am tired of looking at it whenever I read the current messages and I am sorry in advance if I have offended anyone.

diana


Friday, March 03, 2006 at 12:27:16 (PST)
Karen Marie
wil1962@aol.com

Thank you so very much will definetly follow up this may be the break I was looking for! Thanks


Friday, March 03, 2006 at 15:31:56 (PST)
Pam (Womack) Gutsche
ladygrizz258@yahoo.com
None

Thank you for your feed back Sam. I do have to make a correction Moms name is spelled Esther. My husband and I had two deaths in the family in two months. It put my mind in low gear. I am sorry I upset anyone. I have been out of the scene for some time. And Sam thank you for your kind words for mom, it helps me keep going. I will miss her alot.



Friday, March 03, 2006 at 16:36:00 (PST)
Susan (Womack) Owens
lowens22@tampabay.rr.com

I am trying to figure out what happened Thomas's offspring, John and Nancy, after the 1850 census. I have a gggrandfather, John W. Womack, in Etowah County, AL I can't find parents for. The children's names for "J.W." Womack (1860 Paulding County)who I think may be John, are identical to my ggggrandfather's children and are the same age. If this is him, Mary, his first wife, may have died, as he married "Peggy A." LNU sometime around 1867. My ggggrandfather moved from Georgia sometime between 1867 and 1870 when he first shows up on the census in Etowah County, AL.

1850 Cass County, GA Census
Thos J Wamack, 43, 1806, Georgia, Male, Division 12, Cass, GA
Esther Wamack, 41, 808, South Carolina, Female
John Wamack 20 1829 Georgia Male
Larkin Wamack 18 1831 Georgia Male
Nancy A Wamack 13 1836 Georgia Female
Marion Wamack 10 1839 Georgia Male
William Wamack 08 1841 Georgia Male
Sarah Wamack 06 1843 Georgia Female
Mary Wamack 03 1846 Georgia Female
Georgia A Wamack 02 1847 Georgia Female

In the 1860 Paulding County, GA Huntsville PO District I found
J. W. womack living close to Thomas and Ester (Esther):

J.W. Womack, head, 30 male, day laborer, GA
Mary Womack, 27, female, GA
Thomas Womack, 6, male, AL
Mary Womack, 3, female, GA
James Womack, 9M, male, GA

If someone could point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it.


Friday, March 03, 2006 at 21:19:47 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Susan
Just a little poking around:

JOHN W. WOMACK b. abt 1833
Marriage: 25 NOV 1855 Chattahoochee Co, Georgia
[Note: Ancestry has 11 Nov 1855, the above is LDS].
Wife
MARY C. WEEDE b abt 1835


1870 Census, Etowah Co GA Post Office Attalla

Womack John 36 born GA
Peggy A 26 she and ALL children born GA
Thomas 16
Mary A 13
James 10
John D 7
Malissa 4
W P 6/12
Census was taken 28 Jun 1870. They moved to AL right between the
time the last child listed was born and the census. This would
also indicate he married Peggy A in GA.

1850 Census Marion Co GA
You may want to also take this in consideration for Johns parents:
Womack, Wm 47 NC
Nancy 44 NC
John 16 he and all listed children born GA
Mary 13
Gustiv 9
Joseph 7


Friday, March 03, 2006 at 21:30:52 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Susan
We can forget the John W and Mary Reed marriage. Looked further and found this:
Name: Mary C. WEED
Sex: F
Birth: 18 OCT 1835 in Georgia
Death: 27 OCT 1923 in Grayson County, Texas
Burial: Bethlehem Cemetary near Sadler, Texas
Fact 6: Samuel J. Weed, her uncle, performed the wedding ceremony

Name: John W. WOMACK
Sex: M
Birth: 9 SEP 1833
Death: 30 JAN 1884 in Grayson County, Texas
Burial: Bethlehem Cemetary near Sadler, Texas


Saturday, March 04, 2006 at 16:13:08 (PST)
Susan (Womack) Owens
lowens22@tampabay.rr.com

Hey Sam, thanks for looking. I saw the marriage to Mary Weed and tracked her to Texas, none of children's names seem to correlate with the one's listed for my John in the 1870 census, so I didn't think it was her.

There is a marriage listed in Bartow County, GA (which borders Paulding County, GA at the north) of John M. Wammack to Peggy A. Watson in 1867, which could be his second marriage, this John was in his father's household in Cass County, GA in 1850. I just haven't found anything on his first one. Most of the early marriages have been posted for that county and his marriage to "Mary" is not there.

In 1850 Thomas and Esther were enumerated in Cass County, GA Division 12:
Thos J Wamack, 43
Esther Wamack, 41
John Wamack,20
Larkin Wamack, 18
Nancy A Wamack, 13
Marion Wamack, 10
William Wamack, 08
Sarah Wamack, 06
Mary Wamack, 03
Georgia A Wamack, 02
A couple of houses down:
Womack, James, 22
Womack, Elizabeth, 21
Womack, Nancy, 4
Womack, 2

That at least put's Thomas's son John in the area about that time.

I don't think he came out of Jackson County, AL (northeast of Etowah), either, although anything is possible. Most of those Womacks were born in Tennessee. If there is any relation to the one's in Etowah County, it's further back.

His sister Nancy, may have moved to Etowah County with him, as there is a Nancy Womack, born the same year as John's sister, who married a ROSSON. I can't find where any other's may have followed.

I did want to say thank you for the tremendous amount of effort both you and Roger have gone to make it easier for everyone to trace their Womack family. Between the two of you, I have been able to put together three generations.

If anyone is doing research in these areas and finds anything on this family, I would appreciate an email.

Susan


Sunday, March 05, 2006 at 07:23:13 (PST)
Emmett Joel Womack
emmettw@bellsouth.net

My grandaddy was Nicholas Womack. His daddy was John Edward Womack and his daddy I was told was Albritton Womack. Can anyone make this fit anywhere?


Sunday, March 05, 2006 at 10:11:02 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Emmet
Does any of this look familiar?

1. JOHN E1 WOMACK was born Feb 1845 in Frostproof, Polk, FL?, and died 1931 in Fort Valley GA?. He married MARY L SUMMERS Abt. 1875 in Fort Valley GA?. She was born Abt. 1854 in Fort Valley GA.

Children of JOHN WOMACK and MARY SUMMERS are:
i. SARAH OLA2 WOMACK, b. Oct 03, 1876, Fort Valley GA; d. Oct 03, 1954.
ii. MATTIE WOMACK, b. Feb 12, 1878, Fort Valley GA?.
iii. NICHOLAS JEFFERSON WOMACK, b. Oct 16, 1882, Clinton, Jones, GA; d. Aug 23, 1958.
iv. GEORGE ROSS WOMACK, b. Abt. Sep 1885, Fort Meade, Polk, FL?; d. Abt. 1954.
v. THOMAS LEE WOMACK, b. Oct 29, 1890, Clinton, Jones, GA?; d. Nov 25, 1912.
vi. MARY LILLIAN WOMACK, b. Jul 19, 1894, Macon Co Ga; d. Feb 15, 1969.
vii. JOEL CHANDLER WOMACK, b. Apr 08, 1901, Tifton GA; d. Nov 18, 1940, Hackberry, Mohave, AZ; m. EUGENA; b. Abt. 1907.

Notes for JOEL CHANDLER WOMACK:
LDS has year of birth as 1900, death certificate 1901. Using 1901.

Death cert showed usual place of residence as Needles CA. He was a brakeman on RR and got ran over by a railroad car wheel.

More About JOEL CHANDLER WOMACK:
Burial: Needles, San Bernardino, CA

I dont have children on Nicholas nor the parents of John yet...Just let me know
if this fits before I do any more looking...


Sunday, March 05, 2006 at 19:48:04 (PST)
Tracie Woods Breidenthal
tbreidenthal@yahoo.com

I am a member of the Puckett family and am trying to find some info. on the Puckett Womack connection. My ancestor was William Puckett, born 1654, who married Anne Womack. Can anyone tell me who her parents were, what year they were born and died, and where they lived? Also, does anyone have info. on whom John Puckett(born 1616 Dorchester, England)'s parents were and any dates on them? Thanks.
Tracie Breidenthal,
The Woodlands, TX


Sunday, March 05, 2006 at 23:09:52 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

TRacie
Anne's parents were allegedly William and Mary Judd Allen Womack - the alleged immigrants.
You may wonder why I use the term 'alleged,' its because there is no confirmation these
two people existed, YET. But tentatively you could use them until proven otherwise --

As for Puckette, there was a guy, first name Keith, whom I have lost last name and URL
for his web page - he had a bunch of Puckette/Womack info - I printed it out for someone
once and it was 90+ pages -- I suggest going to google and inputting Puckette Genealogy.
Then check out the home pages listed there - there are 314 that I found -- will take time,
but......


1. JOHN PUCKETTE died in Henrico County, VA. He married (1) ANN UNKNOWN. She died in Henrico County, VA. He married (2) ANN "ANNIE" PEW, daughter of HENRY PUGH/PEW and JANE WOMACK. She was born 1654. He married (3) ANNE JEFFERYS Bef. 1649. She was born Bet. 1612 - 1637, and died Abt. 1679 in Henrico Co, Va.

More About ANNE JEFFERYS:
Date born 3: Bet. 1611 - 1637
Died 3: 1679, Henrico County, Virginia

Child of JOHN PUCKETTE and ANNE JEFFERYS is:
i. WILLIAM 12 PUCKETT, b. 1657; d. Bef. May 1723; m. ANNE 1 WOMACK; b. Abt. 1657; d. Abt. 1694.

More About WILLIAM PUCKETT:
Name 2: William Sr Puckett
Date born 2: Abt. 1657, Puckett p 3, 26
Died 2: Abt. 1723, Henrico Co, Va


Keep in mind this needs to be proved[the children exist, but no direct reference
known to the parents]:

1. WILLIAM WOMACK was born Abt. 1605 in Wragby, Lincolnshire, England, and died Bef. Apr 1674
in Henrico County, Virginia. He married MARY JANE ALLEN. She was born Bet. 1605 - 1635.

Children of WILLIAM WOMACK and MARY ALLEN are:
i. ABRAHAM WOMACK, b. Abt. 1644, Henrico Co VA; d. Bef. Oct 1733, Varina, Henrico Co, VA?; m. (1) SARAH WORSHAM, Bef. 1662; m. (2) SARAH SUMMERSCALES?, Bef. 1687.
ii. WILLIAM WOMACK, b. Abt. 1647, Henrico Co VA?; d. Bef. Apr 1674, Henrico Co, Va; m. (1) JANE 1; m. (2) ABRIEL GOWER.
iii. JOHN WOMACK, b. Abt. 1653, Henrico Co Va; d. Abt. 1725, Prince George Va; m. MARY AKIN, Henrico Co, Va; b. Abt. 1660; d. Aft. 1725.
iv. RICHARD SR. WOMACK, b. 1655, Bristol Parish, Henrico, Va; d. Mar 22, 1683/84, Henrico Co Va; m. MARY ELIZABETH RUTH PUCKETT, Bef. Jun 02, 1676; b. Abt. 1657, Henrico Co VA?; d. Aft. Feb 01, 1691/92, VA.
v. ANNE WOMACK, b. Abt. 1657; d. Abt. 1694; m. WILLIAM PUCKETT; b. 1657; d. Bef. May 1723.
vi. MARY WOMACK, b. Abt. 1659; m. THOMAS PUCKETT; b. Abt. 1658, VA; d. Bef. Oct 03, 1715.
vii. JANE WOMACK, b. Abt. 1662.
viii. THOMAS WOMACK, b. Abt. 1664, VA; d. Abt. 1697, unmarried, Henrico Co, Va.


Monday, March 06, 2006 at 18:37:07 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Carol,

Sam and I have been working the IL Womacks with one of our DNA participants, a descendant of Newton Womack, trying to find Newton's ancestors. His DNA indicates he does not descend from Thomas Womack and Louvisa Rice. It was previously thought by researchers that (John) Newton Womack and A. Green B. Womack (proven brothers) were the sons of James Womack and Margaret Bowers. This is not the case. They were born 1838 and 1839 in TN.

I found enough evidence to substantuate that John G. Womack, b. ca. 1823 IL, was the son of James Womack and Margaret Bowers. James Womack died before the 1840 census. Margaret is on the 1840 Hardin Co., IL census as head of HH. Abraham, Sr. brother of James, and Abraham, Jr. are also on that census.

1840
IL Hardin, no township listed, roll 60
225 18 Warmick Abraham Sr 0000 00001 0000 0001 2 1 Ag
225 19 Warmick Abraham 2000 1 0100 1 5 1 Ag
225 22 Warmick Margaret
l-female 40-49 Margaret Bowers Womack
1-female 80-99 could this be Louvisa Rice Womack? She would be about 95!
1-male 15-19 probably John G. Womack
l-male 10-14 probably Shepherd Womack
l-female 10-14
l-male 5-9

Shepherd Womack was also a son of James and Margaret Bowers Womack. Margaret Bowers Womack is with Shepherd on the 1860 census.

James was the son of Thomas Womack and Louvisa Rice. You won't find this very often on Rootsweb's World Connect, but Thomas Womack was the son of Abraham Womack and Nancy Ann Blanton. Larry Miller has now changed his research on Rootsweb's World Connect to reflect Thomas's parents. But he hasn't added Archee/Archer Blanton as their son also, even though he has Archee's son, Jeremiah in his research!

Larry has also changed John G. Womack to be the son of James and Margaret Bowers Womack because of the information I sent him on the census records:

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fredmiller&id=I2104

Here are the census records (note Shepherd and John G. are three HH's apart on the 1850 census and still in the same township, same county on the 1860 census):

1850
IL Pope, no township listed, roll 125
Page 252B, House 40
5 Wormack Shepherd 22 M W Farmer 0 TN
6 Wormack Lorinda 23 F W KY Her name is Laura on the 1880 census

Page 252B, House 43
23 Wormack John 27 M W Farmer 0 IL
24 Wormack Emily 23 F W IL
25 Wormack Margret 6 F W IL
26 Wormack Sarah 5 F W IL
27 Wormack Isham 3 M W IL
28 Wormack Jessa 1 M W IL Jesse

1860
Walnut Shade PO, Pope Co., IL Series 653, Roll 220, Page 229
Shepherd F. Womack, age 33 b. TN Indexed as WOMACH
Lavinda, age 33, b. KY
Harriet F., age 7 b. IL
Missouri, age 4, b. IL
George P. O., age 2, b. IL
Sarah K., age 2 mos., b. IL
Margaret, age 66 b. SC THIS IS MARGARET BOWERS WOMACK

Walnut Shade PO, Pope Co., IL Series 653, Roll 220, Page 240
John G. Womack, age 36, b. TN Indexed as WOMACH
Emeline, age 37, b. TN
Margaret, age 14, b. TN
Sarah E., age 13, b. TN
Isham, age 11, b. IL
Jesse N., age 9, b. IL
Lucy A., age 8, b. IL
Martha A., age 4, b. IL
John F., age 2., b. IL


Tuesday, March 07, 2006 at 09:22:53 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee

Beth
If that is Louvisa there in IL - It sure blows a buncha genealogies that has
her deceased abt 1810 in Rutherford Co NC -- I think she left a will and I have
sent for a look-up thru the Rutherford Co GenWeb...


Wednesday, March 08, 2006 at 07:25:12 (PST)
dlynn - Diana Lynn Walker Sphar
dlynn_walker @ yahoo.com

Can't this 666 guy be blocked somehow? Maybe he should be reported to the FBI as well as the FCC.

I don't know exactly what he is doing, but I know at our college people who are hacking into our servers are reported to the FBI.

Whatever this person is doing they are at the least taking up space and at the most could be trying to spread a virus cause other disruption that we are unaware of.


Wednesday, March 08, 2006 at 07:58:27 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Diana
A number of people have sent complaints to the FCC and FTC - One of the agencies
said the matter was being turned over to law enforcement agencies - have no idea
when we will see results - but hope soon...
Sam


Thursday, March 09, 2006 at 06:30:57 (PST)
Diana Lynn Walker Sphar
dlynn_walker @ yahoo.com

I filed the FTC report too.

What ever this person is doing it is not good.
Some of these listings look like ad's and some look like porn.

I would suggest that no one click on any of them.
The sites they link to could contain virus laden programs.

Better to be safe than sorry.
D


Thursday, March 09, 2006 at 14:38:44 (PST)
Emmett J. Womack
emmettw@bellsouth.net

Sam your reply was very much appreciated. Your information was exactly right.John and Mary summers Womack had one other son not on your list. Sam Womack d[ed in Terrell Co. Ga. sometime before Nicholas died. Thank you


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Thursday, March 09, 2006 at 22:08:40 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Emmett
These are the only two on the Social Security Death index for GA:

Samuel D. Womack 6 Nov 1927 Sep 1995 Savannah, Chatham, Georgia
Samuel Womack 29 May 1906 Oct 1968 Cedartown, Polk, Georgia
I have a feeling the 1968 one may be right one?


Thursday, March 09, 2006 at 22:10:47 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Emmett
Sorry - forgot to use soundex:

Samuel Wammock 8 Dec 1900 Mar 1970 Atlanta, Dekalb, Georgia


Friday, March 10, 2006 at 11:14:08 (PST)
Jacqueline Busby Cochran
jac@jacochran.com

My first listing.

Looking for the Children Charles Womack b. abt 1780 VA and Sarah 'Sally' McDaniel b. 1780 VA. Can anyone help?

Have information on their daughter Agness WOMACK b. 1810 VA. that I would be glad to share.


Saturday, March 11, 2006 at 14:27:34 (PST)
Susan (Womack) Owens
lowens22@tampabay.rr.com

I ran across this on one of the genealogy websites. I contacted the person who posted it, and she can't tell me where she got it. It's a shot in the dark...but, does anybody have a clue as to who this family may be?

T B Wamack born 1697

Son:
T Wamack born 1730

Grandson:
Thomas Wamack born 1780 Alabama
married Levina Dinnis 29 JUN 1799 in Guliford NC

Gr. Grandson:
Theodore R Wamack born 1800 Alabama
married "unknown"

Gr. Gr. Grandsons:

1. T. B. Wamack born 1841 Alabama
married Ludemia Jane Gullion Wright in
1865 in Saltville, Smyth County, Virginia

Their children:


a. Ulysis S Grant WAMACK b: 5 MAY 1866 in Saltville Smythe Co VA
b. Willie R WAMACK b: 1868 in VA
c. Lucinda Bell WAMACK b: 1870 in VA
d. C. M. WAMACK b: 1873 in VA
e. Georgia WAMACK b: 1875 in VA

I think some of the above children moved to Ohio.

2. T H Wamack born 1838

3. John W. Wamack born 1835 in Georgia

Thanks... Susan


Saturday, March 11, 2006 at 19:41:48 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

To all who use WGN.
For those of you who wonder what has happened to Roger; he is alive and well-busy as hell. I called him tonite and talked to him for about 15 mins - He will begetting into archiving and etc as soon as he can -- Remember, we all have other things that take our time and should not be impatient.As soon as he gets new responsibilities straightened out; he will be back.. You be patient, as I will be..
Sam


Sunday, March 12, 2006 at 18:19:56 (PST)
Peggy Fuller
CHICANVAS@IDOCK.COM

In regard to Beth's message of March 6, it would be easy to confuse the Green B. Womack who is the brother of John Newton with my great-great grandfather. His name is also Green B. Womack, born about 1832 in IL, and (I believe) brother of John G. and Shepard F. In 1860, my Green B. was living close to John and Shepard. The census shows:

1860
IL, Pope County, Walnut Shade P.O., Roll 220, Book 1, P.225
Green B. Womack 28 IL
Sarah H. 23 KY
Wm. H. 11/12 IL
Geo. W. 40 TN
Shepard L. 13 IL
Calvin L. 10 IL

I think George is also their brother, since he is living with Green B. and has a son named Shepard L. George was born in TN as were John G. and Shepard F. In 1850, George was still living in Hardin County, the same place Margaret was with the rest of the family in 1840. I have not been able to find either Margaret or Green B. in 1850. The census for George in 1850 is:

1850
IL, Hardin County, Township A, p. 4B
Wormack, G.W. 30 TN
" Nancy 34 TN
Kesterson, Elizabeth 16 IL
" Nancy 13 IL
" Mary 9 IL
Wormack, Shepherd 4 IL
" Elvira? 1 IL (This should be Calvin)

The only sources I can find for the Green B. referred to by Beth are the obituary and 1880 census posted on Roger's website and the 1920 Federal Census for Union Co., IL.

My Green B. lived in IL until about 1870, when he moved to NE. He had three wives, Sarah H., Mary Miller, and Josephine Miller (probably Mary's daughter). He had twelve children that I know of. I do not know when he died, sometime between 1885 and 1900, based on census information.

I would love to confirm that he is the son of James and Margaret since their lines seem to be well researched by all the dedicated Womack researchers! I was only able, after many years of futility, to finally discover Green B.'s name and location from Roger's website several years ago and have been remiss in thanking everyone for this wonderful resource.


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Monday, March 13, 2006 at 06:58:58 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Ok Dudettes and Dudes,
Just because we got that turkey infiltrating every day dont mean you cannot post also -- you aint gonna get no bugs!!! Comon down the information hiway!!


Monday, March 13, 2006 at 16:36:20 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

OK, Sam, Dudette Beth is gonna post!

Hi Peggy!

I don't believe there is a John Newton Womack. In the past, someone has combined Newton Womack's name with John G. Womack's name and caused the confusion. To add to the confusion, there are several Shepherds and at least four Greens!

Here are the Green Womacks:

1830 Cave In Rock Twp., Gallatin Co., IL Roll 22 Page 262, line 16
Wommack Rebecca Rebecca Parker Womack?
1-female 50-69
1-male 30-39
1-male 20-29
1-female 15-19
1-male 5-9

Page 263, line 8
Warmack Green
1-male 40-49
1-female 30-39
1-female 15-19
1-male 10-14
1-male 5-9
2-females 5-9
1-male 0-4

1840 Shelby Co., IL Roll 70
Page 176, Line 1
176 Green Womack
1- male 50-59
1-female 30-39
1 male 5-9
1-female 5-9
3- males 0-4
1 female 0-4

Note the places of birth in the following census records:

1850 Shelby Co., IL p. 104A, HH 105
33 Wammock Green 62 M W Wheelright 0 SC d. 1872 Unionville, Putman Co., MO,
34 Wammock Aconas ? 50 F W TN Agnes Galeon (Cunningham per family Bible) d. 1873 Unionville, Putman Co., MO
35 Wammock Acey 17 M W Farmer IL
36 Wammock Alexander 15 M W Farmer IL Alexander Selkirk Womack
37 Wammock Talitha 8 F W IL

1860 Jackson Twp., Putman Co., MO
Green Wamick, age 72, b. 1787 GA
Annis Wamick, age 61 b. 1798 NC

1870 Jackson Twp., Putman Co., MO
Green Warmack, age 83, b. GA
Agnes Warmack, age 70, b. NC

Does anyone know for sure who this one was?

1850 Fayette Co., IL Roll 106
Page 352B, House 241
Wormick Green F 26 M W Farmer 400 KY d. 26 Nov 1862 Fayette Co., IL
Wormick Dora A 30 F W NC
Wormick William 6 M W IL
Wormick Jacob Sears 5 M W IL
Wormick Sarah A 3 F W IL
Wormick John P 1 M W IL

Green's age on the 1860 Sharon Twp., Fayette Co., TN census is 40, b. IL, but the image is illegible. On the same census page, there is a Francis Gramick, age 42, b. KY, indexed, and again, the page is really a bad copy. I'm using Heritage Quest for census records. Maybe Ancestry.com has the names in both households indexed.

Then we have your Green Womack. I agree with you that your Green Womack was the son of James Womack and Margaret Bowers, based the following census records:

1860
IL, Pope County, Walnut Shade P.O., Roll 220, Book 1, P.225
Green B. Womach, age 28 b. 1832 IL
Sarah H., age 23 KY
Wm. H., 11 mos. IL
Geo. W., age 40 TN
Shepard L., age 13 IL
Calvin L., age 10 IL

Walnut Shade PO, Pope Co., IL Series 653, Roll 220, Page 229
Shepherd F. Womack, age 33 b. TN Indexed as WOMACH
Lavinda, age 33, b. KY
Harriet F., age 7 b. IL
Missouri, age 4, b. IL
George P. O., age 2, b. IL
Sarah K., age 2 mos., b. IL
Margaret, age 66 b. SC THIS IS MARGARET BOWERS WOMACK

Walnut Shade PO, Pope Co., IL Series 653, Roll 220, Page 240
John G. Womack, age 36, b. TN Indexed as WOMACH
Emeline, age 37, b. TN
Margaret, age 14, b. TN
Sarah E., age 13, b. TN
Isham, age 11, b. IL
Jesse N., age 9, b. IL
Lucy A., age 8, b. IL
Martha A., age 4, b. IL
John F., age 2., b. IL

1870 Jackson Twp., Will Co., IL
Green B Womack, age 39, b. 1830 IL
Mary A Womack, age 39 b. 1830 Vermont
William H Womack, age 10, b. 1859 IL
Alice Womack, age 4, b. 1865 IL
Helen Womack, age 2, b. 1867 IL
Green Womack, age 4 mos., b, 1869 IL

1880 Fort Calhoun Twp., Washington Co., NE
Green B. WOMACK, age 49, IL NY NY
Josephine WOMACK, age 21 Wife IL NY CAN
Alice WOMACK, age 14, Dau IL IL MN
Helen WOMACK, age 12, Dau IL IL MN
Albert WOMACK, age 10, Son IL IL MN
Lucy WOMACK, age 8, Dau NE IL MN
Green B. WOMACK, age 6, Son NE IL MN
Edith WOMACK, age 5, Dau NE IL MN
Eunice WOMACK, age 6 mos., Dau NE IL MN

1900 Cooper Twp., Gentry Co., MO
Josephine Womack, age 41, b. IL
Eunice, age 20, b. NE
Minnie, age 15, b. NE
Josephine, age 12, b. MO
Robert L., age 10, b. MO
George H., age 5, b. MO

Based on son, George's age, Green must have died after 1895 Gentry Co., MO

1910 10-WD Omaha., Douglas Co., NE
Josephine, age 51, b. IL
Minnie, age 25, b. NE
Robert, age 20, b. MO
Herbert G., age 15 b. MO

The parents for Newton Womack and his brother, Green Womack are unknown, but according to DNA test results, Newton does not descend from Thomas and Louvisa. Here are the census records for Green (Greenberry) Womack, and his brother, Newton Womack (note on the 1880 Green was born in IL and Newton in TN. On the 1900 census, Green and Newton were both born in TN):

1880 Cave Twp., Franklin Co., IL p. 581B
Greene B. WOMACK, age 44, b. IL VA VA
Perlina WOMACK, age 34, b. TN VA VA
Louella WOMACK, age 6, b. IL IL TN
Robert WOMACK, age 4, b. IL IL TN
Ada M. WOMACK, age 1, b. IL IL TN
Martha FISHER, age 17 b. IL IL IL relationship: other

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER ON GREEN'S WIFE, PERLINA RANEY?

1880 Benton Twp., Franklin Co., IL p. 540C
Newton WARNOCK, age 39 b. TN TN TN
Sarah A. WARNOCK, age 28 b. MO SC TN
Golda G. WARNOCK, age 3 b. IL TN MO
Thos. A. BENNETT, age 12 b. IL TN MO Relationship: Son

Was Sarah Bennett married before she married Newton?

1900 Benton Twp., Franklin Co., TN
Weston Wornack, age 63, b. Mar 1837 TN TN IL NEWTON WOMACK
Sarah, age 44 b. Nov 1844 IL AL KY
Grace G., age 23 b. Dec 1876 IL (GOLDA GRACE)
Robert Henry, age 17 b. Dec 1883 IL __ TN NEPHEW

IS THIS NEPHEW, ROBERT HENRY, A HINT FOR ANYONE? HIS MOTHER WAS BORN IN TN. COULD HIS MOTHER BE A SISTER OF NEWTON AND GREEN'S?

1900 Du Quoin Twp., Perry Co., IL
Greenberry Woarnack, age 63, b. Nov 1836 TN TN TN
Perlina, age 53, b. Nov 1846
Ada, age 20, b. Mar 1880
Dollie, age 14, b. Jun 1885
Maggie, age 10, b. Jul 1889

Here are the obits for Green and Newton (note the obit for Newton says he was born in TN and came to IL as a young man. It also says he is survived by Green Womack of DuQuoin, IL):

GREEN B. WOMAC ** Obit
DuQuoin Evening dated October 15, 1920
G. B. Womac Dies at Anna This Morning. G. B. Womac died this morning at the Anna Hospital. Mr. Womac was 88 at time of death. He had been in ill health for some years preceeding his death and had been an inmate of the hospital for the past several years. Mr Womac was a residence of this city for a number of years and during his residence here he made for himself many friends among the DuQuion people. Mr Womac leaves to mourn his death one son Robert of Cambridge, Ohio, two daughters, Mrs Harry House and Mr Coe Melvin both of this city. Following the funeral ceremony the body will be interned in the Old Fellows Cemetery.

Pontiac Daily Leader, Feb 28, 1916, Pontiac, IL
Newton Womack Died Today. Newton Womack, aged 78 answered the death summons at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Grace Ellis, 613 east Livingston Street, this morning at about 7 o'clock. Article goes on to tell about him falling. The decedent was a native of Tennessee. He came to Illinois when a young man. He was married in Benton, IL 39 years ago. He is surivied by his aged wife, one son Joe Womack of Virden; one daughter Mrs Grace Ellis and a brother, Green Womack of DuQuoin, IL.


Monday, March 13, 2006 at 17:51:38 (PST)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Peggy,

I forgot to add George Washington Womack's 1850 census record:

1850 Tazewell Co., IL Roll 129
Page 143A, House 1981
37 Warmick Washington 40 M W Farmer 0 KY
38 Warmick Nancy 40 F W TN
39 Warmick Elizabeth 17 F W IL
40 Warmick Franky Ann 15 F W IL
41 Warmick Nancy Ann 12 F W IL
42 Warmick Sheppard 4 M W IL
1 Warmick Jane 1 F W IL

1860
IL, Pope County, Walnut Shade P.O., Roll 220, Book 1, P.225
Green B. Womach, age 28 b. 1832 IL
Sarah H., age 23 KY
Wm. H., 11 mos. IL
Geo. W., age 40 TN ****
Shepard L., age 13 IL
Calvin L., age 10 IL


Tuesday, March 14, 2006 at 02:32:09 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

A little trivia for you:
Fort Smith Criminal Records
Last First Charge Year Jacket Aka Etal Unk
Womac Will Liquor 1891 481 - - W520
Womack Nep Liquor 1895 481 - E W520
Womack Will Larceny 1896 481 - E W520
Wammack Asbury O Rob Mail 1903 549 - - W520 [see note]
Warmack Ben Liquor 1896 337 Bramlet, John W652
Warmack Renee Liquor 1896 336 Bramlett, John W. W652
Wormack Bence Liquor 1895 481 - - W652
Wormack Bence Liquor 1896 481 E - W652
Wormack C.W. Larceny 1901 552 - - W652

NOTE: Asbury Overall Womack, b. Nov 21 1865, Benton AR, d. Apr 27 1936, AR
Wife: Verda ? b. abt 1862 GA?
Parents: William and Elizabeth Jane Harrell Womack
Grandparents: Richard and Matilda Lee Moxley Womack
GG-Grandparents: Elijah and Elizabeth Patterson Womack
GGG-Grandparents: Richard and Rachel ? Womack
GGGG-Grandparents: Alexander and Martha ? Womack [my 6th greats]
GGGGG-Grandparents: Richard and Elizabeth Ann Puckett Womack
GGGGGG-Greatgrandparents: Richard and Mary Elizabeth Ruth Puckett Womack
And if Exists: Willy the Emmy-grunt


Tuesday, March 14, 2006 at 03:40:12 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Sometimes when we are searching for our "cestahs," we may run out of name options to look at. Below are names you will get when inputting WOMACK, WARMACK and others under soundex. Dont discount any of them as Beth and I have found out lately[mostly Beth].

Soundex-W452
Walmack, Wilmack and Wolmack, any variation.

Soundex-W520-Womack gives below:
Wamac, Wamach, Wamack,Wammack, Wamuck, Wammuck, Wamec, Wamic, Wamick,
Wamoc, Wamock, Wammock, Wamox, Waymack, Waymock, Wemack, Womecke, Womic,
Womacks, Womacque, Womak, Wommak, Womax, Womeck, Womecke, Womic, Womick,
Wommick, Womock, Wommock, Womuck, Wommuck, Wumac, Wumack, Wummack, Wyomack.

From England still W520:
Waimich, Wamuke, Waymak, Waymouch, Wemock Weymack, Weymeck, Whomac, Whomack,
Whomic, Whomach, Whymach, Whymock, Wimack, Wimick, Wimock, Wimmock, womacke,
Womaks, Womek, Womocke, Womok, Womakc, Womvck, Wommacke, Wommake, Wommocke,
Woomacke, Woomock, Woommock, Woommax, Woymmocke,

W512
Wombeck [German]
Womvck

Soundex-W522
Womachka[Czech]

Soundex-562
Wymark


Soundex-W652-Warmack
Wormach, Wormack, Wormick, Wormeck, Wormik, Wornmack, Woormmack,
Woormmock, Wornack, Wornuck Wornick...

These lists may not be all inclusive; but are names I have ran across
that are closely enough related to take a look at...Waymack and Wymark
may be separate and unrelated to Womack = But look at them anyway -
you never know...


Tuesday, March 14, 2006 at 22:09:23 (PST)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net
None at present

Hi gang
Today is my first day to read the messages since I had my health problem. For those who don't know I had emergency abdominal surgery Oct 29,2005 and had a heart attack and quit breathing while on the table. They were able to revive me after some time and I woke up Oct 30 in ICU strapped down on a chinese torture rack they caled a ventilator. My health is steadily improving and I can again spend time at the computer. ( I had a strange outof body experience during this)From what I read a lot has been going on with various researchers, Nice.
Read in Sunday paper where Mary Price Womack the wife of T W "Jack" Womack of Midland Tx had passed away. I am often confused with T W when people are trying to locate him. T W was a long time resident of Odessa where he was in the advertising business 40 years. Anyone wanting to contact T W can contact me and I will pass it on. Midland is only 20 miles from Odessa where I live.
The many questions on the DNA test will require some time to answer but don't let that deter you. I will post the complete obit if anyone is interested. I myself had lost track of T W and plan on contacting him, may be a "lost" cousin.
Jack


Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 08:11:24 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Review
I dont know how many of you have tried FTM 2006. I recently installed it and it
installed smoothly, no glitches over Version 11.

I like the function that allows one to look for web results on Ancestry direct from the program -- I have found some good information and made some corrections based on those results. The ability to merge directly from Ancestry is a welcome function.

I was a little set back on the copy and paste as there is no way thru the file function - ran a query and the good ole ctrl-c and ctrl-v comes up.
However you can copy with the normal function from other sources; then use the
ctrl-v to paste into the notes field on FTM. Use the ctrl-c to copy notes from FTM then the normal paste to notepad, word pad, e-mail or other document.

I am not too happy with the gray color scheme - but someday will find how to change that to a more appealing color, If any of you who use 2006 has that figured out; let me know.

I also find the merges work somewhat better than before..not perfect; but better.

If you dont have the program and want to putchase it; dont go all out - get the
29.95 Essential version - it has plenty of toys to keep you busy. I think youcan now include photos in your genealogy reports - will advise later for sure on that. Again, if anyone out there has a bit more experience than I on 2006, let us know!

One suggestion: get an external hard drive - whether ready made or put together yourself. Save your FTM data on it - it will set up an icon on the desktop that goes direct to the external. Computer crashes, FTM is safe. Of course that would apply to other genealogy programs and files as well.


Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 08:15:14 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Jack,
Glad to see your smiley back with us - I know we have made some small amount of correspondence; but there have been a lot of people wondering about you. For your privacy, and since you didnt say I could blab, I kept me mouf shut on your progress.

We need your input on a lot of things; not only on that DNA stuff. A few of us have tried to keep the old ball rolling with a small amount of success..Your added input will greatly enhance WGN.
Sam


Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 16:47:24 (PST)
Susan (Womack) Owens
lowens22@tampabay.rr.com

Up for auction on eBay...I thought someone here might be interested. I don't think is this part of my line. If it turns out to be, I will graciously accept a couple of 'look ups' for pointing the winner in the right direction..

Susan(Womack)Owens

http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-WOMACK-TRAIL-VIRGINIA-TO-TEXAS-GENEALOGY-BOOK-NR_W0QQitemZ5677635388QQcategoryZ116100QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

THE WOMACK TRAIL VIRGINIA TO TEXAS GENEALOGY BOOK

Item number: 5677635388

The Womack Trail From Virginia To Texas by Helen Ring Womack - covers 1674-1982, Womack family and allied families Carney, Gish/Gisch, Daniel, Pearcy, Clevenger, McPahil/McPhaill, Hollingsworth, Dunavant/Dunnavant, Ring-Barbee.

9" x 11.5" Hardcover, 649pp (weighs almost 5 pounds) , inscription on front end paper, published 1988, illustrated with photos, records, family trees, maps, marriage licenses, etc.

Excellent condition, no damage, clean.


Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 18:05:54 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Susan
thanks for posting that. I knew Helen from mail, regular, and phone conversations - the last one I had with her was a number of years ago after her husband died - then later on the phone number was blank as if she had passed away also - she was a very meticulous researcher, looked for documation and would be a great asset if she were alive today..The book would be a treasure for one that would want it...but check LDS you may be able to see it it an FHC or on microfilm -


Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 18:16:16 (PST)
Emmett Womack
emmettw@bwllsouth.net

Sam, the Sam Womack That I was looking for was Joseph Sam Womack and he died in Terrell Co.Georgia in 1957. Thank you.


Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 19:32:24 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Emmkett
Is the dude?
JOSEPH S2 WOMACK (MATTHEW MARION1) was born Abt. 1882 in GA?, and died Abt. 1961.


Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 19:37:07 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Susan
I think that bok is available on Amazon.com - no bids either


Thursday, March 16, 2006 at 05:25:37 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Derrell, Thanks


Thursday, March 16, 2006 at 06:51:54 (PST)
Darrel and Judy Womack
jwma@comcast.net
www.tribalpages.com/tribes/mccarty

Susan and Sam

I have the book by Helen Ring Womack, The Womack Trail. If any one needs a look-up be happy to help, got the book from Helen a few years ago.
Might take a look at my web page, has my line McCarty and Darrels line Womack.
It is interesting McCarty and Womack have some of the same names in there history. Darrel and I had wondered which line came to the coloies first, Womack abt.1650 VA, McCarty 1749 VA, He won. If you see a correction needed let me know.
I enjoy reading the WGN ever morning, and it is nice to see Jack back on line. Sam keep up the good work, thanks again for the help you have given me in the past, and wish to thank you for those that do not thank you.

Judy


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Thursday, March 16, 2006 at 12:15:07 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee msn.com

While woring with the 1900 census for Paulding Co GA - I ran across this family not on Ancestry's index. So posting it herein case any one recognizes and needs the info:

MATTHEW M1 WOMACK was born Abt. 1838 in GA. He married MARINDA. She was born Abt. 1865 in GA.

Notes for MATTHEW M WOMACK:
Both parents born GA per census.
All family info from 1910, Burnt Hickory, Paulding Co, GA

Notes for MARINDA:
Both parents born GA per census.

Children of MATTHEW WOMACK and MARINDA are:
i. JESSE2 WOMACK, b. Jan 1888, GA.
ii. WALTER G WOMACK, b. Aug 1890, GA; m. LULA; b. 1892, GA.

Notes for WALTER G WOMACK:
1910 Census, Burnt Hickory, Paulding Co GA for wife and child.[Effie b, Dec 1899.]

iii. SEABORN R WOMACK, b. Jun 1891, GA.
iv. EVA WOMACK, b. Apr 1893, GA.
v. BELLE S WOMACK, b. Jun 1895, GA.
vi. MATTHEW M WOMACK, b. May 1896, GA.
vii. FREDDIE B? WOMACK, b. Jul 1899, GA. <


Thursday, March 16, 2006 at 23:48:44 (PST)
Debby B. Reyes
genea692@yahoo.com

Hi
Would any one be familar with this Womack Line
1-Mr. Womack b. AR
+Mrs. Womack b. TN
|--2-William S. Womack b. Sep 1864, TX
+Canary b. 1880, TX
|--3-Afred Womack b. Jul 1897, Elk Twp., Washita Co., OK
|--3-Ida O. Womack b. 1900, Elk Twp., Washita Co., OK
|--3-William Walter Womack b. 23 Mar 1901, Elk Twp., Washita Co., OK
| +Maggie Mulvina Allen b. 9 Jan 1901, Vernon, TX, par. Mr. Allen and Mrs.
| Allen
| |--4-David C. Womack b. 1924, Wood Co., TX
| |--4-Verna Lee Womack b. 26 Nov 1926, Wood Co., TX, d. 23 Jul 1998,
| | Lubbuck, TX, bur. 23 Jul 1998, Resthaven Memorial Park, Lubbuck, TX
| +Robert Charles Bivins b. 14 Aug 1926, Amarillo, Lubbuck Co., TX, d.
| Oct 1992, Amarillo, Lubbuck Co., TX, m. 1950, Clayton, N.M., par.
| Silas Zell Bivins and Francis Emily Millinger
|--3-Edward R. Womack b. 1903, Elk Twp., Washita Co., OK
|--3-Ada Womack b. 1905, Elk Twp., Washita Co., OK
|--3-Ernest C. Womack b. 1907, Elk Twp., Washita Co., OK
|--3-Allie M. Womack b. 1909, Elk Twp., Washita Co., OK

Thank you
Debby B. Reyes
genea692@yahoo.com


Friday, March 17, 2006 at 03:06:30 (PST)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Debbie Amarillo is in Potter Co./Randall Co.

Here is your William Samuel Womack's parents

William Jefferson Womack born 1 Feb 1833 Washington Co., AR married 1st Mary Nelson Ensey 13 MArch 1856 Jack Co.,TX (Mary Nelson Ensey was your William Samuels Womack's mother)married 2nd Louiza J. Jackson 20 July 1876 Jack Co., TX married 3rd 3 July 1889
William Jefferson Womack died 29 Sep 1889 Jack Co., TX his tombstone has been stolen from his grave in Hutchins Cemetery located in JAck Co., TX here is the names in that cemetery

Jack County Texas -Hutchins Cemetery

Brisco, William Co D 33rd Tx Cav.
Brisco, Nancy Fannie Feb 14, 1856 Jun 2, 1943
Brisco, George No Dates
Brisco, Geneva No Dates
Brisco, Son of Milton Oct 5, 1947 Oct 5, 1947
Brisco, Mrs. Oct 19, 1902
Buckner, Neaty Bell Mar 13, 1883 Dec 14, 1898
Buckner, Elizabeth Nov 1818 Nov 26, 1882
Burns, Lucinda Age 62 years Dec 20, 1898
Burns, Dr. H. C. Dec 4, 1834 Jan 21, 1914
Cope, Martha Mar 30, 1839 Jan 22, 1901
Cope, Andrew J. Sep 1, 1878 Jan 17, 1901
Cope, Luculios Dec 27, 1869 Feb 3, 1890
Cope, Bryon M. Dec 31, 1865 May 31, 1891
Hutchins, Inf of Jim Jan 17, 1902 Jan 17, 1902
Hutchens, Isabell C. Dec 30, 1860 Dec 19, 1896
Hutchins, Louis C. Jun 7, 1886 Nov 28, 1951
Jackson, Lorena Jan 9, 1919 Sep 9, 1956
King, Margaret Jane Mar 8, 1890 Mar 16, 1876
King, Charles Otis Feb 13, 1890 Apr 1, 1898
Ledbetter, Elizabeth Feb 4, 1883 Nov 14, 1911
Miller, Margaret Aug 26, 1835 Sep 29, 1927
Miller, Infant Aug 4, 1908 Aug 4, 1908
Miller, Baby of Mary No Dates
Miller, J. A. Mar 11, 1820 Age 62 years
Pierce, William July 7, 1922 July 7, 1922
Pierce, Catherine Feb 20, 1937 Jun 11, 1943
Pierce, Louis Zack Jan 13, 1903 Jan 5, 1968
Snow, William H. Co I 16th Texas Calvery
Snow, Jim R. Oct 10, 1845 Jan 8, 1936
Womack, William J. 19th Tx Cav. Co. F Walkers Div.
Womack, Infant Aug 27, 1924 Aug 27, 1924



Friday, March 17, 2006 at 07:23:59 (PST)
Sandi Phillips
sphillips@tucsonairport.org

Good Morning All:

You know I get on here and read the new messages almost every morning - and it amazes me beyond belief how much information there is being exchanged - I am just getting started in this - so I cannot even imagine the hours and monies that have been spent by all of you researchers on gathering this information, that you so freely give out to those interested, with very little thanks coming back to you...SO HATS OFF TO YOU "REAL" RESEARCHERS - YOU ARE THE BLOODLINES OF OUR FAMILY NAME "WOMACK"....AND HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY....STAY SAFE...

Eternally grateful
Sandi


Saturday, March 18, 2006 at 09:36:05 (PST)
Sam
sammers

I copied this from Robert Burke's page with the final results of our DNA Testing..Hopefully after some of you male Womacks seeing this, or females with a male Womack cousin, uncle, etc..would be interested in haveing the testing done also. We do need a larger sampling,

Interpretation of Results
I know some people are not going to like this, but we have three very distinct Womack halotypes. What this means, is that there is no way whatsoever that these three groups are genetically related. Furthermore, the "split" seems to go very far back, to colonial Virginia. It is very possible that Abraham, Richard, and John were not related by blood. Rather, they may have been adopted, possibly by the elusive William "the Immigrant" Womack.

This is what another person had to say about some of the probable causes for "splits."

"I have to believe that adoption was a major cause of the diverse results for Colonial VA families, although we don't really have any hard evidence. Up until 1750 there was a low ratio of women to men. People had short lifespans due to the many tropical diseases. If a husband died, the widow would marry very quickly. Some of the children could take on the new surname for whatever reason. This might be even more likely, if a posthumous child was born inside the new marriage."

[Sams Note: There was one family where, in his will the head of household stated: "William Allen who commonly uses
the name William Womack." This William had a brother and sister that interchanged names also.]

Richard Womack and Mary Elizabeth Puckett
In this group, Ernest's DNA is most like the others. If you do not include DYS-385b (which is not used to compare people), then Alvis is an exact match with Ernest. Darrell is one difference away from Ernest, and Roger and Carlos are each two differences away. Sam's results are the most problematic. I think this is a result of mishandling of his sample by DNA Heritage, that it was allowed to sit for too long before the lab actually tested it. Hopefully Sam will get tested again, because I think his results will fall in line with the rest of the Richard group, since he already matches the rest of the group on most of his markers.

[Sams Note: I did retest and the results throw me closer in line with the others than before.]

Abraham Womack and Sarah Worsham
This is the most consistent group. Basically, Jack, Mark, and Steve are exact matches. Paul and Alton are exact matches, and differ from Jack/Mark/Steve by just one marker. So this forms a pretty tight group. Jack has concluded that Thomas A. Womack (who was married to Louvisa Rice) was a descendant of Abraham Womack and Sarah Worsham. This comes from Jack's research, his involvement in the Blanton project, and this project.

John Womack and Mary Akin

Warren and Fred differ by three markers (not including DYS-385a and DYS-385b, which are not used in comparisons, and which the lab never finished for Fred anyhow). As with Sam's test, I think Fred's test was mishandled, and I think a second test might show fewer differences between Fred and Warren.

[Fred did retest, but havent seen his results yet, Sam].


Saturday, March 18, 2006 at 10:46:16 (PST)
Robert E. Moore
MooRob4@aol.com
N/A

Sam & Others: Thanks for all the research and sharing of information you do.I read on a regular basis for information on DNA results. It seems to me our male Womack y-dna testees might consider doing further testing on their haplotypes. I know it is expensive but perhaps information may be obtained that could be used on resolving differences in the three lines. We are some 350 years past the time our Womack ancestors lived in Virginia and I don't know what the chances are for more documents to surface that would help in resolving some of these questions. I recall someone wrote a letter that was published in the 1950s Womack Magazine about having seen an old Womack Will from the 1630s in a library in Chicago. I have never seen any thing published on follow up of this possibility. And I have never visited Chicago. Perhaps someone on the list may live in the Chicago area and could visit the city library there and research the possible existence of such a will. Thoughts.
Bob


Saturday, March 18, 2006 at 13:21:37 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Bob,
I dont doubt that there are a few documents lying out there somewhere; as well
as some diaries, Bibles, etc locked away in some musty old trunk. It was in a musty old trunk I found the tintype of my GG-GF and one for a son I didnt know
existed...letters and post cards written in the 1870's plus...Unfortunately my
aunt, knowing my dad said I could have the trunk, gave it to my sister who dumped all the contents...I should not have played the nice guy when I found all those cards and took them then and there --

I found a tentative record of an Elizabeth Womack, daughter of a Thomas of London, who came to the colonies in Aug 1620 - apparently as a "mail order" bride....She married a soldier, Sergeant William Sharp/e..had two sons by the time of the first census in 1623 methinks. Later Sharpe apparently died and she remarried a Packer/Parker. She was married to him a short time then she shows up married to a Baugh - During some of the time after Sharpe died and she
married Baugh - she had some headrights - I have seen one of them on the VA library images - However, I saw so Womack as headright...If she was truly a Womack, then she may well have been the first to set foot over here -- Most of the leads in this area came from Baugh and Sharpe researchers...

Also looking thru the images I found, and curse me for not taking down the
location, a James or John Wom...rest not readable and a Charles Womack [at least appears so]as headrights, same document and it was well before the 1673 document for Richard - I did send the URL to a couple people for verification of what I thought I had seen -- However, know not what was done with that...The images are quite numerous and some mostly illegible - would take a long time to sort thru all of them --if I find that one again, will copy and send to you to see what you can make of it...

Anyway, I know, as well as you, not every document has been brought out of the dungeons yet.


Sunday, March 19, 2006 at 14:33:20 (PST)
Marti Anderson
mmasalina@msn.com

Charles D. Womack, W. W. Womack, Samuel R. Womack, and Robert Womack are men whose names appear in research that I compiled on miners in the Boulder County area. I am writing a book and would like to learn the relationship, if any, between the men.


Sunday, March 19, 2006 at 20:05:16 (PST)
Caveman Jack
Oldcave @home

NOTICE:
To those who are engaged in malicious and illegal posting to the WGN message board. YOU are engaged in BANDWIDTH THEFT an illegal act that is a felony and can and will be punishable by law. Your post, some concerning porn sites and others doing advertising have all been reported to the proper authorities in respect to their content.
You are asked to cease immediately before legal action becomes necessary. The WGN message board is for exchange of genealogical information of the members only.
Wherein WGN is a copyrighted publication the Message Board is a part of a web publication, copyright laws also apply because bandwidth is required to post to same.
There is now route tracing in progress to eventually discover your true ISP with which we can learn your true identity so the proper action can be taken.
MEMBERS:
I am encouraging you to let your voice be heard in filing complaints to the following reporting sites. The more voices heard in complaints the faster this issue will be resolved.
http://www.fcc.gov/be/oip/Welcome.html Obscenity, INDECENCY and Profanity
SPAM@UCE.GOV SPAM@UCE.GOV Unwanted advertisement
http:www.ftc.gov and find the form needed to file your complaint.
http:www.fbi.gov search for cyber crime, white collar and other that may apply.
COPYRIGHT:
Each page has copyright protection by virtue of being published, as long as the textual content is your original creation. This applies whether there is a copyright notice displayed or not. You cannot legally post to a published web site without authorization to do so is a breach of copyright laws and can constitute theft of bandwidth.
https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01 complaint form for FTC located here.
If you have visited any of the links posted by the morons who are doing this please report the content in your complaint.. I suggest that you DO NOT visit any of the links they post.
Caveman Jack, The Neanderthal Geek




Monday, March 20, 2006 at 20:41:52 (PST)
Bob Moore
MooRob4@aol.com
n/a

Sam, Caveman Jack, & list: This morning I sent another complaint to the FTC. Now
I await a response. I plan to send another one tomorrow. Bob


Monday, March 20, 2006 at 22:22:14 (PST)
Frank Hubbard
flhubbard@earthlink.net

This is for Doretta Noland. Doretta, I saw an old posting of your,s that mentioned the John & Sally Hubbard family. I am descended from them through Richard, who married Patsy Jones. Would really like to exchange information with you.
Best Everm
Frank Hubard


Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 10:57:31 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Thanks Rog!!!
Hope it stays clean for awhile....A lot os us have done reporting to appropriate government and law enforcement acencies--now anyone got the addy for InterPol??


Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 11:33:35 (PST)
Robert Burke
robertburke@juno.com

Regarding the vandalizing of the WGN web site with dozens of posts that have nothing to do with Womack genealogy -

This is probably not being done directly by a human being, but by a computer program (called "spiders") which looks for "unprotected" boards and then the program posts whatever garbage the program's writer wants. This guy is probably posting thousands of messages on many different boards, which means he is probably not doing it manually.

There are a few ways to defeat such programs. One is to password protect the site. In other words, a person has to log on with a password in order to post, but they do not need a password to read. This solution is probably the best for stopping garbage posts, but it creates a lot of administrative headaches.

An easier way to defeat the program is to have picture of something on the "Post a Message" page, and a box next to it labled "What is shown in this picture?" where the person who wants to post types in what the picture is. For example, have a small picture of a cat. Unless the person types "cat" in the box next to the picture, they cannot post (this can be done with a little bit of script code to validate the data from the form). This works because a computer program does not "see" a picture in the same way a human does. Just change the picture every couple weeks in case the person who wrote the program notices that his program does not work with this board any more.

Another way to stop garbage posts is to have the validation script code search the message body for the word "Womack" (or some valid variation thereof) and not let the user post if their message has nothing to do with Womack genealogy.

I am a computer programmer and I know how to do this stuff, so I can provide the code needed to fix the "Post a Message" page, just let me know.

This should stop most garbage posts that are really coming from programs, and not people.


Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 12:35:02 (PST)
Robert Burke
robertburke@juno.com

To follow up on the abuse of the WGN message board, I found an interesting article that describes the problem:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog_spam

This abuse has several names such as "link spam", "blog spam", etc.


Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 14:02:09 (PST)
Caveman Jack
oldcave@home

Robert
I aggree with you that most of this is a spider crawling the web. The program has infiltrated other message boards on the web also. Several blog sites are effected also and we are not the only ones complaining. Some blog sites are now doing the password bit and like you say it's a mess to contend with. As you are aware that ALL e-mail addys on the WGN have been compromised by collector programs and the same solution you suggest for the message board will work for them as well. E mail bots work on web pages because as you say the spiders are not designed to read an encoded photo only a valid e mail address. I once suggested that members omit something or added a space in their posted adress because this fools the program with false info. We would all have to aggree as to what we would do. I used a GIF for my e mail addy when I last had a web page up.
Made the mistake of putting my correct addy on my first web page and it took me months to get rid of the spam. I for one do not want my e mail address floating around the entire web. The truth is the web is becoming a melting pot of morons and idots that try to implant their trash whereever they find a chink in a program.
To those that have web pages there are programs to hide your e mail addys and there are programs that prevent others from hijacking your domain. If you own a domain check with your hosting for guard against this. Hey it happens every day.
Jack


Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 20:24:06 (PST)
Mark Womack
markwomack@womacknet.com

Hi All,

In response to the recent spam postings and to modernize the features of our message page, Roger and I have created a group discussion on Google Groups. You have to become a member of Google Groups in order to actually post a message (though anyone can read and search the archive) and you can use your existing email address (so you don't have to create yet another email address to use it). In addition, you can set up your account to read the messages on the web and/or get messages via email. And it's Google, so all messages are archived and searchable.

Anyway, this is a trial setup. We would like to have your opinions as to whether we should switch over to it for the official WGN message/discussion page. You can access it via this url:

http://groups.google.com/group/wgn-discuss

thanks,
-Mark


Wednesday, March 22, 2006 at 15:53:21 (PST)
Fred Womack
fredjudy@bellsouth.net

Mark,
Robert Burke's suggestions sound like good solutions for the garbage problem.
Since he has offered to help implement the needed changes, please consider his offer. What ever you decide, WGN is a great resource. Thanks for your efforts!

Fred & Judy Womack


Wednesday, March 22, 2006 at 16:33:58 (PST)
Darrel and Judy Womack
jwma @ comcast. net

We just signed up at google wgn. Looks like we might be able to beat the unwanted postings.

Thanks Roger, Mark, and Sam, you guys are the best thing that ever happened to WGN

Judy


Wednesday, March 22, 2006 at 16:36:04 (PST)
Teddy
Trimcher
http://sterlingsilver.20mn.com

sterling silver jewelry


Wednesday, March 22, 2006 at 20:07:00 (PST)
Barbara Ann {Merrill} Thomas
nana.b1@netzero.net

Good evening. I would like to touch base with someone from my Birth Family.
Her Name:ElizabethAnne Walters Womack. She lived in Vallejo,Cal. in 1946 married Billy Jo Womack in the Fall of that year.
Any Family member is welcome to e-mail me at anytime.
I will gladly respond to all Womack or Walters Families.
Sincerely, Barbara


Wednesday, March 22, 2006 at 20:42:01 (PST)
Sam
podunk@holler.com

Darrell and Judy
I didnt have anything to do with the new page -- that was Mark andRog, but thanks!!


Friday, March 24, 2006 at 06:49:04 (PST)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

I don't know what to do about all these messages that keep appearing, I'm deleting them every day now, hope we can come up with a solution. If everyone would copy and report them perhaps something will be done. Roger


Friday, March 24, 2006 at 06:49:43 (PST)
Sandi Phillips
sphillips@tucsonairport.org

We haven't had any garbage for a couple of days - maybe someone got the message, or the FCC charged in - not sure - but I love this message board and would like to see it continue.

Thanks
Sandi