September 2005 Message Archive

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 12:56:14 (PDT)
Trish Bryant
JESUSthankyou@HOTMAIL.COM

I am Trish L. Bryant I am asking for sole divorce from Leonard Edward Bryant
and if there are no objections for it to go through in thirty days or sooner.
Thank you and have ablessed day.

Trish Bryant


Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 18:36:01 (PDT)
Darrel and Judy
jwma@comcast.net


I found a very interesting web page, called www.findagrave.com put in a name and find where they are buried, and may be someing about them. People go to Cemeterys and put the headstones information on line, may even see a picture, or put flowers at the site.

very intresting site, fun to browse Judy


Monday, September 26, 2005 at 18:18:46 (PDT)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

Hi all,
I just returned from Scotland Neck and Halifax, NC. What a great trip. Everyone down there is just as nice as they could possibly be. Met some fun "cousins" and collected a lot of information.

I did everything from cross a soybean field to find the "Womack Family Cemetery", which turned out to be about 10 graves all but one unmarked, to having cocktails with two decendants of Asa Wommack on the backporch of one's very well preserved pre civil war home.

I have to collect all my notes and put them in some order then I'll give a more detailed account. Those of you, I have corresponded privately with about this trip - I will give the full details.

Halifax County and perhaps the rest of the state is a genealogist's dream. Almost every tombstone for a woman contains her maiden name. What a dream come true! Everyone reading this should keep that in mind when burying loved ones or planning your own "aftercare".

If anyone reading this has ever heard a family tale about a Womack from Arkansas going back to North Carolina to fight in the Civil War - please post the story. It is a family legend down there, so if you know who it was it would be nice to validate it.


Sunday, September 25, 2005 at 01:11:42 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

This is an excerpt of a message posted on Rootsweb's Womack-L web page, by a descendant of Green Womack, who died ca. 1872 in Putnam Co., MO. If this is your line, please let us know!

"........they (referring to WGN) do have my Gr-Gr-Grandmother; Annie's Cunningham's name listed wrong as: 'Agnes Galeon' and I have sent her daughter, Lutisha's death certificate to prove the name is; 'Annie Cunningham' but it has never been updated. I also asked to see the proof that Alexander Selkirk Womack's descendants have and never received anything on it......Sandy"

Sandy,

Womack Genealogy Network is a privately owned web page for folks like us to post their lines, ask for assistance in finding their families and hopefully, learn of their heritage. It operates just like Rootsweb, except we are at liberty to cite other web pages as references. There is no WGN data base. Some individuals who participate do have quite large Womack data bases. We would like to help you get the info from Lutisha's death certificate to the other descendants of your Green Womack.

It does appear that some researchers have Agnes Cunningham. And some have Galeon for her maiden name. Here's the info I've found regarding her name:

Illinois Trails http://iltrails.org/gallatin/groomss-z.html
Womack, Green Agnes Galton (see Galeon) 01/27/1828
Womack, Green Agnes Galeon (see Galton) 01/27/1828

Familysearch.org:
Green Womack
born 17 June 1788 SC d. *1872 *Dec
died 1872 Terrehaute Twp., Putnam, MO
married (2nd) *17 Jan 1828 Randolph IL *different day
Agnes Cunningham
born 1792
died abt. 1873 MO
dau. of *Joseph Galeon (another researcher has Josiah)
This would suggest she married 1st a Cunningham.?????? If anything, she could have married a Galeon first!
Info submitted by a LDS member.


1850 Sand Creek Twp., Shelby Co., IL Roll 128 Page 104A,
HH105
Green Wommack, age 62, b. SC Occu: Wheelright
Aconas Wommack, age 50, b. TN
Acy Womack, age 17 b. IL Occu: Farmer (Asa)
Alexander, age 15, b. IL Occu: Farmer
Talitha Wommack, age 8, b. IL

HH 1131/1001
1860 Jackson Twp., Putnam Co., MO
Green Wamick, age 72, b. GA Occu: Wheel Wright
Annis Wamick, age 61, b. NC (Could be Annie?)
Michael Williamson, age 8, b. IL

1870 Jackson Twp., Putnam Co., MO
Green Warmack, age 83, b. GA Occu: Retired Farmer
Agness Warmack, age 70, b. NC Occu: Keeping House
Atndy (sic) Wallace, age 58, b. TN (b. 1812....could be Mary Wallace Womack's brother?)

Sandy, the web page below has a picture of Alexander Selkirk Womack! Alfred R. and David A. Womack are descendants of Alexander.
http://dubbie.tripod.com/wonder/alexutah.html Sam Womack's web page
WOMACK FAMILY HISTORY By Alfred R. and David A. Womack

(Excerpts) dated December 24, 1988
"....Our family records are primarily based on Alexander Womack's old family Bible.......Green Womack first was married to Polly (whose name may have been
Mary "Polly" Wallace), born July 17, 1791. Their children were: Sally May 2, 1812), William (May 4, 1817), Jacob (August 17, 1819), Lucretia August 11, 1822), and Elizabeth (May 24, 1825). She must have died, because Green and his second wife named their first child after her in 1827. He married Agnes Cunningham, born in 1792. Our family comes from her line. There is some confusion about her name. The Census taker called her Annis; and Maxine Tinkham calls her Agness, We have seen her maiden name as Gallon or Galeon. They were married, according to Gallatin Co, Ill, records, in January of 1828....."

Sandy, Let's hope one of Green's descendants sees this post!


Wednesday, September 21, 2005 at 20:26:09 (PDT)
Sam

OK, havent posted here an a spell and for good reason - as far as I am concerned WGN is a waste 0f my time and efforts -- I used to think differently -but after a series of events, this is the only conclusion I can come to =--

I have been put down about keeping people from posting - Jack allegedly has a cousin that wont post for fear I might say something - that cousin should talk to me -- that is BS and a cop out -- anyone wants to post , no matter what or how small is quit ewelcome to do so as I jave said in the past.

How soon pepople forget things' like Mark when He was starting this thing - and I sent stuiff to him - yes he gave a few credits then - but now, wont even answer e-mail..

Roger, I spent many hours on Instant messages, phone and e-mail working with him on iw own web pages.
Then I find some of his arent linked to mine; bit copied and presented as his --

Beth, while a dang good researcher, wont even respond to e-mail any more - Beth is it because didnt
stay longer in As last year and well -- wont get into that subject --

Jack says I have made a horse or mule or donkeys south end going north and insinuating I should
go to my lodge and drink -- how would he know if I had been or not at the time I wrote something?

A few years a go someone sent me a mail asking if I was a Womack - naturally you get suspicious
about questions like that - I went back and indicated I was and what was the problem - the verbage I
got from that woman was ridiculous - I sent Roger copies of the conversation she and I had; and,
instead of looking at the overall problem; he sent her a mail indicating that he was actually
backing her and that I was "high maintenance." Totally ignored the overall situation..

I have helped, sent and etc to many people that posted queries here on WGN without one dang response
they got it or not - One recently was Beth asking someone who had access to the WW 1 draft registrations
to do a look up - I did, and sent her the text and a copy of the actual card -- no response even
tho I have asked for one --

I do look at WGN and if a post looks like it has merit; I will respond individually to that person.
But even then have had problems - 4 out of the last 5 reponses I have given; I received nothing in
return -- that WILL NOT happen again, I rarely respond again to e-mail after the first non response.

The typical Womack response to any thing is a non response - thank God I have enough of my mother
in me to make some difference -

It has gotten to the point that I could care less for responses from but a few - and most of
them are collateral families -- the majority of Womacks appear to be well self centered and
lacking in social response to any situation -- there are a few rare occasiions there that does
not applly -- and yes, after 45 years of people-to people relation ships - I can detect few
abnormalities..

I maintain contacts with many Womacks or descendants in England, Australia and Canada - -How many of you
take to time to cultivate friendships and contacts like that?? Very few if any I can assure you.

If what I am posting here, goes against your grain; and, if it isnt deleted before you get a chance
to read it -- then you might want to take a look at yourself - I have, and I am not perfect; but I am one of the best Womack researchers you got out there - you can be too if you get off yerarse and apply yerself --

Now Roger, or Mark, how quick can you delete this so no one can see themselves in it??


Tuesday, September 20, 2005 at 17:04:44 (PDT)
Pamela Goodwin Daniels
peegeedee3@yahoo.com

In 1964 I met an Airman (allegedly a pilot)that said his name was Michael Ronald Wormac. He was stationed at March AirForce Base located in Riverside, California. In April 1965, I gave birth to a son by this man, and that year he told me that he was going to Afghanistan and would be back in California by early 1966. I have been trying to find any evidence of this person, or his family for many many years now, even the Base Locator could not give me any information as to his where abouts, or his true identity.

After looking on this site I have seen the names: Wormac, Wormack, Wormach and Womack mentioned interchangably. All I know of this individuals family is that he had a brother named Robert, and that his parents were from Louisiana. His father was allegedly Creole (a mixture of Negro/African and French blood)and his mother German, supposedly a physician. In 1964 he was approximately 27/28 years old. I have no recollection of his father's name, or his mother's name.

Any help would be appreciated as to where I might go to find any information on this individual, or any other Wormacs in the United States.
Thank you all in advance.


Tuesday, September 20, 2005 at 12:46:05 (PDT)
Dana
dpwomack@mfire.com

I have a Robert Henry Womack b. 1852 in Louisiana who married Susie Megown in Missouri.

I believe that his father's name was Henry H. Womack b. abt. 1814 TN? married to Jane A. ? b. abt. 1823 VA. Their children were Mary A. b. 1841 AL, Virginia W. b. 1843 AL/LA, Susan F. b. 1846 LA, Sarah b. 1848 LA, Harriet G. b. 1849 LA, Robert H. b. 1852 LA, and Jesse b. 1860 LA.

They were living in DeSoto County, Louisiana during the 1850 census and 1860 census (he was census-taker on the 1860). He was on the slave schedule records for both years. Henry was sheriff from 1846-1850.

Robert Henry was living in Spencer, MO (Ralls County) in the 1880 census, but I can't find him or his parents in the 1870.

If anyone has information about this family - I would appreciate any help.


Friday, September 16, 2005 at 10:37:03 (PDT)
Nancy Beinhorn
nbeinhorn@sabglobal.net

PORTERVILLE EVENING RECORDER - OBITUARIES
Tuesday, Sept. 13, 2005
Gerald Womack
Gerald Womack, a resident of Porterville, died there Sunday, Sept. 11, 2005. He was 77.
Visitation will be from 2 to 7 p.m. Wednesday at Whitehurst Loyd Chapel in Porterville. A celebration of life service will be at 11 a.m. Thursday at Porterville First Church of the Nazarene in Porterville, with the Rev. Mark Pitcher officiating. Interment will be at Hillcrest Memorial Park.
Mr. Womack was a native of El Centro, and a resident of Porterville for 60 years. He owned Womack Realty, a U.S. Navy veteran, and was a member of the American Legion Post 20 in Porterville and Porterville First Church of the Nazarene.
He is survived by his wife of 30 years, Kathryn Womack of Springville; one son, William Womack of Springville; two daughters, Cheri Fitton of Strathmore and Kari Wills of Porterville; five grandchildren; and two great-grandchildren.
He was preceded in death by one brother, Homer Womack; and three sisters, Vivian Penny, Gladys Kennedy and Wynona Scott.
Whitehurst Loyd Funeral Service in Porterville is in charge of arrangements.
Nancy's Notes:
Jefferson Davis Womack/Alamansa Matilda Ann Norman > Walter Lee Womack/Ruby Lillis Allen > Gerald Allen Womack


Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 22:42:56 (PDT)
REGINA JONES
RCOVIC@YAHOO.COM

I AM TRYING TO TRACE MY FAMILY TREE. MY GREAT-GREAT GRANDMOTHER WAS A CHOCTAW INDIAN NAMED VIRGINIA TURNER(HER MARRIED NAME; INDIAN NAME UNKNOWN). SHE HAD 3 CHILDREN(THAT I KNOW OF): VIRGINIA TURNER,II(WHO WAS MARRIED TO JOHN GABLE, JR.; 13 CHILDREN?, LIVED IN ALEXANDRIA, RAPIDS OR PARISH COUNTIES), JANE TURNER(3 CHILDREN?) AND GERTRUDE TURNER JONES(10 CHILDREN?). I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO FIND THE TRIBE SHE WAS FROM. ARE THERE STILL ANY OF THEM ALIVE? WHERE ARE THEY NOW? I HAVE A GROWN SON AND A YOUNG DAUGHTER THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR HERITAGE. THANK YOU FOR ANY INFORMATION YOU CAN PROVIDE.


Monday, September 12, 2005 at 04:50:34 (PDT)
Mark Wilkins
mwilkins@wspice.com

I am looking for any info concerning a adoption from Monroe County November 16th, 1955.
I am a adoptee seeking help.
Please advise,and all of the best to all!


Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 16:16:54 (PDT)
diane and Jim Lotspeich
lotspeich@dock.net

Actually, I misspoke. It was daughter Rhoda Bean who married John Owens. I am off to see if I can find anything on his RW service. Too many Marthas, Roberts, Williams and Jacobs in this family tree. No wonder there is so much confusion!


Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 16:12:03 (PDT)
Diane and Jim Lotspeich
lotspeich@dock.net

Beth, Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately, the Robert Bean line has also been closed. In corresponding with several of the Bean researchers, there are two Robert Beans, first cousins actually, who fought in the RW. Our Robert was born in 1764 and actually fought with the Overmountain Men from Fort Watauga at the Battle of Kings Mountain in 1780. He was 16 at that time. But the DAR has the two Robert's so confused, all service has been attributed to the older Bean cousin, the line closed, and must be reproved as well. So I am running into roadblocks in that regard as well.

Martha Womack Bean's daughter, Martha, was married to a John Owens. He was much older than she and there is a chance I might be able to find some reference to his service in the RW. That is the direction I am headed next.

My mother-in-law is 89 and in poor health so we are trying to run this to ground while she is still with us.

Thank you for your help.


Wednesday, September 07, 2005 at 18:58:48 (PDT)
KAY
blakekay@yahoo.com

LOOKING FOR ANY INFO ON ARTIE M. WILLIAMS OR WENT BY (A.M.) AND WIFE MARTELLIE (PHILLIPS)WILLIAMS MARRIED 1912 IN PITTSBURG, CO. OK. MARTELLIE DIED 1930 AND IS BURIED AT CLAYTON,OK ARTIE HAD A GROCERY STORE AND BLACKSMITH SHOP IN CLAYTON FOR YEARS. THEIR CHILDREN BONDOLLA, LOUIE, ARTIE JR.WILBURN,IRENE, EDISON AND FLOY MAY.IRENE MAY WILLIAMS SISSON IS MY MOTHER.

THANKS KAY


Wednesday, September 07, 2005 at 02:58:08 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

NATIONAL SOCIETY DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN COLONISTS
STATE SOCIETIES AND CHAPTERS


TENNESSEE STATE SOCIETY
Captain Jacob Womack Johnson City, TN
Captain Thomas Jameson Murfreesboro, TN
Chattanooga Chattanooga, TN
Clay Lick Springfield, TN
Colonel Gideon Macon Jackson, TN
Jamestown Memphis, TN
Knoxville Knoxville, TN
Middle Plantation Nashville, TN
Prudence Hall Brentwood, TN
Union City Union City, TN


Wednesday, September 07, 2005 at 02:23:31 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Diane,

Several researchers on WGN will probably find your statement interesting: "Apparently the DAR has closed this line and is requiring that it be reproved."

You might have to obtain your DAR membership through Capt. Robert Bean. His RW service would come closer to be proven than Martha Womack Bean's relationship to Maj. Jacob Womack. I have almost everything written on this Jacob Womack, and I've never found Robert and Martha Womack Bean on any court, land, or census records with Maj. Jacob Womack, and/or his "other" proposed sons & grandchildren. I'm not saying that Martha, Sarah and William are not his children. The relationship with Jacob & the "other" descendants is circumstantial., i.e. the 1790 Pendleton Co., SC census record has only head of household and no will for Jacob has been found to date. But there is a lot of circumstantial evidence after 1790.

We've had several (LOL !) discussions on WGN about Maj. Jacob and his descendants in the last several years. You can find the discussions in the archives.

Good luck, Diane!


Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 15:20:03 (PDT)
Diane Lotspeich
lotspeich@dock.net

I have just about completed a DAR application for my mother-in-law and am now being asked to prove that the Martha Womack who was married to Robert Bean, way back when, was the daughter of Jacob Womack, Captain in the Overmountain Men militia who fought at Kings Mountain. Does anyone have some documentation that substantiates the relationship of Jacob's children, namely Martha? Apparently the DAR has closed this line and is requiring that it be reproved.
Thanks for your help.


Monday, September 05, 2005 at 12:54:22 (PDT)
Ralph Cantrell
rjcantrell@knology.net

Womack Photographs. I have a wonderful photograph of some Texas/Oklahoma Womacks. John Morgan Womack born June 1, 1862 in Franklin Co., TN. He married Josephine "Josie" Pylant on Dec.15, 1882 in Franklin Co., TN. With John is his sister, Rebecca Elizabeth Womack born June 13, 1854 and her husband James A. Buchanan. Also in the photo is Henry L. Buchanan (son of James and Rebecca) and his wife Myrtle, and Fannie Ophelia Buchanan Fitch (daughter of James A. and Rebecca). Also in the photograph are two sons of John Morgan and Josie Pylant. They are believed to be David N. Womack born June, 1889, and James M. (Manly?) Womack born March 1893. This photo was taken in Whitt, Parker Co., Texas about 1920. Most of these people moved to Oklahoma before 1930.

I also have another photo which is believed to be connected to this same family, but do not know how. It was taken even earlier. In it are over sixty recognizable people believed to be Womacks. Will Share with anyone interested, especially if you think you can identify the earlier photo.


Monday, September 05, 2005 at 01:55:24 (PDT)
Trevor Warren Womack Sr.
trevorandmaria@comcast.net

I just found this Womack network and am amazed at the amount of information. I'm looking foward to researching my own line. I'm in northern California. I know my grandfather Ralph Womack lived here also for many years, but I know nothing of his earlier roots.


Sunday, September 04, 2005 at 22:29:30 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Robert
Yes there is DNA that proved Thomas was the son of Abrahan Womack 1708 and Ann Nancy Blanton. You can research this on the Blanton website. I am the DNA doner used in the research and am a direct descendant of Thomas. The line goes back to Abraham Womack 1644 and is fairly well documented. If you search the WGN archives you will find much info on this, also my lineage is posted there. To be a donor in the project I had to furnish documents to verify my lineage.
Do a search on Blanton Historians Check http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~blantonroots/historians/home.htm
Jack


Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 14:50:24 (PDT)
Robert E. Womack
r.womack12@verizon.net

Is there ANY credible information as to the parentage of Thomas (A) Womack (b~1743) who married Louvisa Rice that would link him to the earlier Womacks in Virginia?


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