August 2005 Message Archive



Tuesday, August 30, 2005 at 21:21:12 (PDT)
Beth
bhower@alltel.net

Mandy,

If you speak of Native Americans as "Indian", there were no 100% Native Amercan Womacks. It is my understanding that the eariest Womacks in the US migrated from Western Europe and could have been of certain mixed European blood. There are records of Womacks with a percentage of NA blood. These Womacks were the children of a Womack male and a female with variable percentages of Native American blood. I have a strong suspicion that one male in my line, b. in the 1750's or 1760's, had a dau. by an Eastern Cherokee female, evidenced by records of the the dau.'s descendants.

From the web page of one of our Womack researchers:

The meaning of the word, Womack:

(English) Dweller near the hollow Oak; crooked Oak.

Source: New Dictionary of American Family Names, by Elsdon Cole Smith.


Tuesday, August 30, 2005 at 16:46:18 (PDT)
mandy womack
Nconlan7123@aol.com

is the womack name an indian name what does it mean?


Sunday, August 28, 2005 at 05:39:03 (PDT)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

Beth, you did better detective work than I - even with a busted keyboard.
I think you are right that JCC and John Franklin are brothers. I saw the pattern too. You'll notice that Pam has given us the maiden name for Evalyn in her message below and their place of marriage.
She sent me a thank you email back


Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 14:50:47 (PDT)
Steve
swesto@aol.com

Hello,
I'm looking for a Lloyd Womack born in 1935 or so, he would of lived in Washington DC around the time of WWII. He was my fathers childhood friend and we were wondering what happened to him.

Steve.


Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 14:40:47 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Pam and Royce,

Sorry for any typos -- guess I wore out or blew up my keyboard! Some data below was entered using my on-screen keyboard --if you want to se a baldheaded female, just come to AR --I've about pulled my hair out this AM! Guess I'll make a trip to pick another one!

This is the info for J. H. Womack in my "Arkansas Womacks" WORKING file (sorry, but some lineages are repeated in notes --and I welcome corrections!):

JOHN FRANKLIN WOMACK, b. ca. 1830 AL, son of ? Womack
married Martha Frances Womack, b, 8 Jan 1837 AL, dau. Of Asa Marion/Martin Womack and Sarah ďSallieĒ Patton

Notes:
Asa Marion/Martin Womack, son of William and Lucy Womack
Sarah Patton, dau. of John Patton & Elizabeth Bean
Elizabeth Bean, dau. of Robert Bean and Martha Womack
Martha Womack, dau. of Maj. Jacob Womack
Elizabeth Bean Pattonís sister, Martha Bean m. Levi Berry Womack brother to
Asa Marion Womack, Isham Rice Womack and Josiah Womack (m. Comfort)

Note: Elizabeth Jane Womack, dau. Of Asa & Sarah Patton Womack, m. Willie Davis Johnson. She might have died in Pine Bluff, Jefferson Co., AR.

Note: Jesse Marion Womack, son of Asa & Sarah Patton Womack, d. Union Prison, Alton, IL

1860 Oakland Twp., Yalobusha Co., MS
A. M. (Asa Marion/Martin) Womack, age 54, b. NC
Sallie Womack, age 50, b. TN (Sarah Patton)
Martha Womack, age 23, b. AL
Mary E. Womack, age, 21, b. AL (Mary Emeline m. Levi Berry Womack, son of Jesse Womack, son of Wm. & Lucy,) d. 1893
William Womack, age 18, b. AL
James Womack, age 16, b. MS (James K. Polk Womack d. 29 Aug 1964 Gettysburg Battlefield, Gettysburg, PA)
Riley Womack, age 14, b. MS (Riley Patton Womack d. 29 Aug 1864 GA/Gettysburg?)
Simpson Womack, age 11, b. MS (Simpson Parks Womack, b. 19 Mar 1849, d. Oct 1872)
Sallie Womack, age 9, b. MS (Sarah Ann Womack, d. Sep 1925)

1860 Oakland Twp., Yalobusha Co., MS
John A.. (Alexander) Womack, age 25, b. TN, (son of Asa Marion and Sarah Patton Womack) d. 15 Jul 1927
Mary A. (Alice) Womack, age 1, b. MS
Sarah E. Long, age 9, b. MS

1860 Oakland Twp., Yalobusha Co., MS
J. Womack, age 30, b. AL Slave Mgr. (I think this is John Franklin Womack)
(in household of William A. Craws --)

1870 Vaugine Twp., Jefferson Co., AR (Pine Bluff)
J. F. Womack, age 40 (b. 1830) AL (John Franklin Womack)
Mattie, age 32 (b. 1838) AL (Martha Frances Womack, dau. of Asa M. Womack)
Maggie, age 5 mos (b. 1870) AR
Notes for John Franklin Womack and Martha Frances Womack:
Married 7 Sep 1865 (probably Yalobusha Co., MS)

Two households up
Dr. Abner (L J.) Womack, age 50 b. TN (son of Isham Rice Womack, brother of Asa Marion Womack)
Elizabeth Womack, age 51 b. NC (Elizabeth Corn)

Notes: I've only found 3 daus. for them

Abner L. J. Womack, son of Isham Rice Womack, brother of Asa Marion Womack; hence, Abner L. J. Womack and Martha Frances Womack Womack were 1st cousins

1880 Mountain Twp., Logan Co., AR (Wamack)
J. F. Womack, age 49 (b. 1831) MS blank blank (John Franklin Womack)
Mattie, age 40 (b. 1840) MS blank blank
Maggie, age 10 (b. 1870) MS (m. Franklin Joseph Stauss)
Bud, age 9, (b. 1871) AR (Homer)
Mollie, age 5, (b. 1875) AR
Sallie, age 4, (b. 1876) AR

1900 Indian Territory, Creek Co., Creek Nation
Frank J. Stauss, age 35 (b. May 1865) IA
Maggie M., age 30, (b. Mar 1870) AR AL MS d. Oct 1945 Eufaula, McIntosh Co., OK
Manorah F, age 12 (b. Aug 1887) AR
John B., age 10 (b. 1880) AR
Byrd S., age 8 (b. Oct 1892) AR
Dollie M., age 6 (b. Nov 1893) AR
Annie B, age 2 (b. Apr 1898) AR

STAUSS, Frank Age: 21 years Marriage
Wife: Maggie M. WOMACK Age: 17 years Marriage
Date: 1 Sep 1886
Recorded in: Logan, Arkansas Source: FHL Number 1027136 Dates: 1877-1885

1900 Wittich Twp., Franklin Co., AR m. 1900
Homer Womack, age 28 (b. 1872 AR) no children (Bud on 1870)
*Evaline Womack, age 22 (b. 1877 AR)
John F. Womack, age 69 (b. 1831) AL NC NC father (John Franklin Womack)
Martha F Womack , age 63 (b. 1836) AL AL AL mother (Martha Frances Womack)
Note: Martha has has 6 children; only 2 living--Homer & Maggie Stauss
*this name is mostly known as Evelyn in this era

1910 Lafayette Twp., Scott Co., AR
H. E. (Homer/Bud) Womack, age 38 b. AR
M. E., age 32
Clarence, b. AR, age 2
J. S. (sic), age 78 (should be J. F.) (father)
M. F., age 72 (mother)
NOTE: Eveline MNU Womack has has 3 children; only 1 living

1920 Lafayette Twp., Scott Co., AR
Homer Womack, age 47, b. AR
Eveline, age 41, b. AR
Clarence,age 11, b. AR
Earnest, age 8-1/2, b. AR
Otto, age 5-1/2, b. AR

1930 Lafayette Twp., Scott Co., AR
Clarence Womack, age 21
Effie, age 32, wife
Yvonna, age 2, dau.

1930 Lafayette Twp., Scott Co., AR
Ernest Wamack, age 18
Johnie, age 18 wife
Raymond, age 5 listed as dau. ???

1930 Lafayette Twp., Scott Co., AR
Evelyn Womack, age 52
Otto Womack, age 15 son

Back to John Franklin Womack and his wife, Martha Frances Womack, d. of Asa M. Womack, on the 1800 census, birth place of their parents is blank. On the 1900, John's is shown as AL NC NC; Martha's is also AL NC NC.

If they are cousins, does anyone have any suggestions for John's father? Here are some choices: Josiah (m. Comfort), Thomas, Abner Clements (m. Isabella Blackburn Patton), William "Buck" (m. Sarah McBee), Levi Berry (m. Martha Bean), Jesse (m. Sabra & unknown Perkins), excluding Burton (d. abt. age 10).

Here's another idea: He could be a brother of the mysterious Josiah C. C. Womack, b, ca. 1829 Jackson Co., Al (place of birth found on CW record), who first appears in Ar on the 1860 Logan Co. AR census. Josiah was probably a son or grandson of Josiah & Comfort LNU Womack.

Any thoughts on John Franklin Womack's parents?


Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 10:01:35 (PDT)
sam
samsawadee@msn.com

I forgot I cannot test off line cause i am never off line as I have DSL -- sorry again - wet noodle time
I'll move to a computer not connected to the net --
Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 09:03:23 (PDT)


Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 07:19:22 (PDT)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

Pam,
I have them as a newly wed couple in Franklin county census (Wittich Township) from 1900 Date 6/4/1900

29/30 - Womack, Homer Head 7/1872 (27) 0 - - AR, AL, AL
, Evaline wife 6/1877 (22) 0 0 0 AR, AR, AR
, John Father 3/1831 (69) 35 - - AL, NC, NC
, Martha Mother 1/1836 (63) 35 6 2 AL, AL, AL

so the column headers above are name, relation, birthdate, age, num years mairried, num children, num still living, birthplace, fathers birthplace, mothers birthplace.

I think John and Martha above arae J.F. and Mattie Womack on the 1880 Logan county census (any idea if Homer was called "Bird")
and they are in Jefferson County in the 1870 census.

Hope this helps - I sent this to you at your email as well.


Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 00:33:58 (PDT)
Pamela Jean Womack Baratti
pamb102@aol.com

Looking for information of the families of Homer E. Womack & Evelin Commander m. 24 May 1900, Franklin, Arkansas


Monday, August 22, 2005 at 18:24:55 (PDT)
Royce W. Gibson
royce gibson at frontiernet.net

Hi all,
I'm planning a trip to Halifax, North Carolina and wanted help on where to and not to look for Carter Womack. I was hoping to locate a grave or records of his marriage. I know some of you have already been looking around so I thought I would ask.
If anybody has any leads I could follow - I'll gladly share what I find when I get back.

Trip is planned for mid to late September.


Monday, August 22, 2005 at 16:59:37 (PDT)
will russell
will@knuckledown.us
willrussellgalleries.com

What a wonderful site! I'm a descendant of Elizabeth Womack, b. 1843, d. 1919 in Brownwood, TX. I don't have any information on my Womack lineage before her. I've been told she was whole or part Indian from Texas, either Comanche or "Early Settler" Cherokee. Thanks in advance for any and all help. Please email me directly. Best regards, Will


Friday, August 19, 2005 at 23:00:15 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Kalia,

Where did the (joe cysis) come from? I know Josiah C. C. and his 1st wife, Mary Ann Frost were in Mississippi ca. 1854 because his dau., Martha was born there.

Here are the web pages I used for the Josiah and family's census records I sent you:

Sam Womack's web page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dubbie/census/index.html

Robert Burke's web page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~reburke/lines/data/womack/ew/index.html

On Robert Burke's web page, scroll down to his comments on Josiah Womack, wife Comfort. Robert indicated to me that he thought Josiah C. C. was a grandson of Josiah and Comfort.

LDS's 1880 census ( also on Sam Womack's web page)
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~reburke/lines/data/womack/ew/index.html

Good luck!


Friday, August 19, 2005 at 20:30:13 (PDT)
kal womack
bajira@yahoo.com

Does any one have more info on Josiah C.C Womack (joe cysis). born 1829 jackson co, CA. and died May 12, 1890 driggs, logan co, AR. I have info of his kids but want his parents and so forth. Thanks so much


Thursday, August 18, 2005 at 23:16:55 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

found this for sale on ebay

Womack Family Heritage Book by Beatrice Bayley $14.99

Published in 1981 by Beatrice Bayley, Inc. Most of the book is normal "how to search for your ancestors" type information, but about a third of the book contains names and addresses of Womacks in every state in the US (no phone numbers).

Contents

Introduction
Why Search For You Ancestors
History of Ethnic Origins
The Meaning and Origins of Heraldry
Origin of Names
Prefixes and Suffixes
Common Names and Their Meanings
Common Names and Their Translations
Talking Genealogy
A Genealogical Chart of Areas
Managing Your Search
Breakdown of Family Names by State
Reference Directory of Family Names
Beginning Your Personal Search
The Other Side of The Ocean
The Personal History Sheet
Individual Heritage Chart
Forward Lineage Chart
Some Words of Others and a Final Word From Us
Genealogical & Historical Societies
Some Suggested Reference Books You Might Want to Read


Thursday, August 18, 2005 at 14:51:10 (PDT)
Jim Womack
jimlcnm@comcast.net

Hi Dale,
Regarding your post on 8/6/05, I also have some information on Ella Womack, daughter of Samuel and Vinny. I have been to the grave site of her mother and father.
Samuel's father was my GG Grandfather.
Jim Womack


Thursday, August 18, 2005 at 12:00:42 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Michael,

I've tried several times to identify the parents of your Mansel Leroy Womack, who married Josephine Buffington 21 June 1874 in Benton Co., AR. I've followed Mansel Leroy's census records from 1880 Logan Co., AR to Garvin Co., OK, looking for clues. In later Garvin Co. census records, he's listed as Mansel. I've seen another date for Mansel Leroy's birth: 12 Nov 1851 MS.

Josephine Buffington was the dau. of Washington Buffington and Mariah R. Hughes. The Buffingtons are on the 1870 Marion Twp., Jasper Co., MO census. In 1880 they are on the Cauthron Twp., Logan Co., AR census. In 1910 Washington and Mariah are still in Sugar Creek Twp., Logan Co., AR.

Mansel Leroy is easily confused in earlier census records with Mansel Lewis Womack, b. 1847 MS, son of Jesse Womack and Jane Lewis.

Based on your email addy, I wondered if you are the author? How are you related to these Womacks?

Beth


Thursday, August 18, 2005 at 05:37:00 (PDT)
Anne M Davies
amd08202@msn.com

I would also like to thank Sam. I have already done so at his owm email address. The info he gave me, as just what I was looking for. May I ask what is considered the proper spelling? Womack or Womac?


Wednesday, August 17, 2005 at 23:19:35 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

This is only a guess but could this be your Leroy M Womack he would have only been 15 or 16 yrs old giving the year they mustered and stuff which was 1863

Womack, M.L.
Confederate
Cavalry
12th Regiment, Mississippi Cavalry

CONFEDERATE MISSISSIPPI TROOPS
12th Regiment, Mississippi Cavalry

12th Cavalry Regiment [also called 16th Confederate Cavalry] was organized during the summer of 1863. Many of the officers and men were members of the Mississippi state forces and some were from Louisiana. The unit was assigned to Richardson's, Ferguson's, and C.G. Armistead's Brigade, and fought in various conflicts in Mississippi and Alabama. Many were captured at Selma, but the unit was included in the surrender of the Department of Alabama, Mississippi, and East Louisiana. The field officers were Colonel C.G. Armistead, Lieutenant Colonel Philip B. Spence, and Major William Yerger, Jr.


Wednesday, August 17, 2005 at 22:19:02 (PDT)
Michael Andrew Grissom
OklahomaRebel@hotmail.com
www.michaelandrewgrissom.com

I am looking for a Leroy Womack, born in November, 1848, in Mississippi. He married Josephine, who was born in Illinois in 1851. They were in Arkansas from by 1878, and were still there as late as 1893. Their children were Thomas J., Virgil D., William P., Lee B., and Gertrude D. I am wanting to know if Leroy M. Womack was a Confederate soldier, and if so, what unit her served with. He is in the Garvin County, I.T. census, but cannot find him in Garvin County, Oklahoma in 1910 or afterwards.

Michael Andrew Grissom


Wednesday, August 17, 2005 at 15:04:36 (PDT)
bill womack
bmw@brazosnet.com

For Sam:
Sam, can't remember if I thanked you when you responded to a posting of mine several months back. I think I did. Boy I hope I did. If not. Thanks now because I do appreciate any help I can get from anybody anytime. I'd sure to be categorized in that high percentge of "other Womacks." What you're doing and have done is a great service. Thanks and try to keep on keeping on even for those who don't appreciate. Maybe someday.
Bill


Wednesday, August 17, 2005 at 06:28:29 (PDT)
Anne Davies
amd08292

This message is a thank you to Connie Baumann for the information about Schuyler Womac. It is much appreciated.


Tuesday, August 16, 2005 at 15:20:25 (PDT)
Connie Baumann
Littletn@aol.com

For Anne Davies:

Womac, Schuyler, age 78, formerly of Calhoun, Tenn., resident of Chattanooga for the past tow years, who had made his home with his son, M.Ray Womac, 616 Derby St., died late Monday evening in a Cleveland hospital after several months' illness.
Survivors include three sons, Ray, Jay T. Womac, both of Chattanooga; Ralph E. Womac, Silver Springs, Md; four grandchildren, Mrs. Paul Greene, Rogersville, Tenn., Mrs. H.E. Stoner, Springfield, Mo., Mrs. R.A. Wheeler and Theo Womac both of Chattanooga; 12 great-grandchildren; one brother, Bob Womac, Cleveland, Tenn.
Funeral services will be held Wednesday at 3 p.m. Calhoun Baptist Church, the Rev. W.H. Liner officiating. Interment in Womac Cemetery. The body is at the home of a nephew, Glenn Womac, Calhoun. Quisenberry Funeral Home.
Chattanooga Times
Feb. 26, 1958


Monday, August 15, 2005 at 21:17:47 (PDT)
hdwomack
hdwoack@cox.net

im looking for womack how live in wichita,ks . howare decendants of isham rice womack .


Saturday, August 13, 2005 at 22:21:12 (PDT)
Linda Ekstrum
ekstrum@hotmail.com

I offer the following information to those researching the Womack family. While I am a Womack (mailden name), I know very little about family research and very little about my family. Perhaps my information can be of help to someone. And I would welcome any information any might have about my kin.

My grandparents Rudy and Nettie Womack lived in Farmington, Mo. (dates unknown-late 1800's)

Nettie's parents are: James Winfield Forshee and Mary Jane Forshee

Rudy and Nettie Womack's children: Ruth, Nola, Nannie, Clifford, Lee and Claud
(I don't know the order)

The family moved to Picher, Oklahoma (probably to mine the Zinc/Lead when Picher was a mining boom town). My father left Picher around 1924.

My father married my Mom (Althea Kimbrough) in 1940 and I was born in 1944 in Arizona.

My Father passed away April 30, 1976.

I'm curious about Rudy (Rudolphe) Womack and Nettie Forshee. Would anyone have any information? I have pictures of all these folks and would be happy to share them. Linda


Friday, August 12, 2005 at 16:36:11 (PDT)
Shanna
dragonbloodus@yahoo.com

Thankyou to both Sam and Derrell! Sam especially considering he has most of the work that my mum did! Now to start back off where mom left off!


Thursday, August 11, 2005 at 04:08:06 (PDT)
Shanna Womack - Leatherwood
dragonbloodus@yahoo.com

Okay I am going to be getting a rough start here. We did have the incomplete family tree with help from Sam. Well that was almost four years ago and since then my dad chunked the thing. Way to go dad. Anyway yeah I am kinda needing a little help here.

My grandfather Paul Kagey Womack came from Danville Illinois. His dad was also Paul Womack. Thats as far as I have gotten with the family. They have all clamed up. Can I get a little asst. if any. It would be greatly appreciated.

Shanna


Thursday, August 11, 2005 at 01:53:37 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Thx Sam by the way don't know if someone has posted this or if ya already have this but here is what I found at the library today just piddling around in books.

Written just the way it was in book

Lawrence Co., AR Loose Probate Papers 1815-1890

Womack, Jesse (Wammack)
d.c. 1827
Adm'r: 26 Feb 1827, John Womack appt'd
Heirs (25 Feb 1827): William Womack of Crawford Co., Ar Territory; and the following of Lawrence Co., towit: Nancy Hix, the heirs of Betsey Cochran, Polly Gray, Pleasant Womack, Setsey (or Lotsey) Womack, Phebe Womack, Jinny Womack, and Nicy Womack. On 30 March 1833, Alvis Nolen signed a receipt as an heir, as did John L. Cochran that same day.

Stinnet, Benjamin and Jope (Should be Jesse) (minors) Gdn: 26 June 1827, John Womack appt'd for these under age 14 heirs of Benjamin Stinnet, dec'd

The last one about Benjamin Stinnet says what seems to me to be that John Womack became gardian of Benjamin Stinnet's children that were under the age of 14 as stated above.


Wednesday, August 10, 2005 at 21:44:24 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

OK going to post something--say what you will; but do not do it here on WGN. E mail me with your comments --

That last post by James Ambrose - I spent almost 6 hours searching thru paid subscription services I have, and traced his bunch back to ole Abe of abt 1644 - sent him three emails with the information I found for him to assimilate and check out further - that was two days ago - think I could get a damn thank you?? Hell no I didnít..

I do a lot of that stuff behind the scenes that people here know nothing about -- but I am beginning to see it is becoming wasted effort and that is my biggest gripe - why should I bust me arse for nothing - I donít even get a feeling of accomplishment from trying to help others any more! It is more desperation trying to open someones eyes that cant see..

That was the basis of that last post were Jack came back and called me a horses ass...in a round about way that is..Most Womacks are not a giving bunch - they are mostly take -- bar none... If I really scare people, they should come to me direct not thru someone else - I dont care what someones cousin wont do because of what I might say - let them speak for themselves -- I do not go for wimps that cannot speak for themselves, male or female -- perhaps that is what makes me different from other Womacks -- I help, tell me I have and respond with information to help me and others -- Someone helps you, other than me, donít remain silent .. silence appears a typical Womack excuse - a cop out for ones own incompetence in dealing with reality....A hey I got what I want now, the heck with you attitude...I can tell you that over 90% of the Womacks out there fit this category --

I see some people like Derrell posting away - duplication, sometimes - but what the heck at least he is getting stuff out there!
He dang sure aint afraid to do it -- even if sometimes people misinterpret what he posts -- GO DERRELL!!!!

I have been accused of a lot of things. High maintenance, etc..BUT, the main thing I was trying to get acoss was post, post, post no matter how small and at least acknowledge those who respond to you - Let them know their efforts in your behalf were appreciated and not wasted. It does not take that much intelligence to do that. And, puhleeeze, donít insult mine by trying to tell me I am looking at it the wrong way -- take a closer look at it --

I have people coming to me from other countries about Womacks in their countries - even when I have never been there --
And, you know, for some, I have traced their lineage back to William Wamuke in the latter 1400's; or at least provided clues to help - thru them I may find who really was our elusive ancestor...and how the heck he got here,,,the info I have was provided by people that are not hush-hush, not closed mouthed, donít whisper "toilet paper." Oh yes, they are Womacks or Womack descendants...

I am working on getting some in England, even Australia, to take DNA tests -- donít know if it will go thru, but at least an attempt was made -- I may ask at this point, "What are you doing to further Womack research?"
(By the way, I am not drinking nor drunk as it appears is popular belief)


Monday, August 08, 2005 at 17:05:11 (PDT)
James Ambrose Womack
jwomack1@mchsi.com

I was told that my grandfather (Pearl Womack) and his brothers, John and Charlie, come from Kansas to Iowa. Pearl married Olive Wilden in about 1900 in Iowa. Pearls fathers name was James. I don't know James' wifes name. I have not been able to find any reference to these people in any Kansas records. There is a Pearl listed but is a female. We do have relatives that are Webbs and Mitchels. i have found both these surnames in various places connected to the the Womacks. Pearl and Olive had 11 children;Jim (my dad) Don,Homer,George,Opal,Erma,Hazel,Gladys,Lillian,Joyce,and Edna. My dad was the last to pass away in 2004. He was just shy by a few weeks of his 90th birthday. I would appreciate any information.


Monday, August 08, 2005 at 10:17:07 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

If I missed anyone I have scanned Isom Conrad Womack's Funeral card announcement thing I don't know what they call them exactly but it's what you get at a funeral for a keep sake type deal. So if anyone needs it that I haven't sent it to plz let me know.


Sunday, August 07, 2005 at 20:42:01 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

CAN SOME1 PLZ READ MY POST AND TELL ME WHERE IN THE HELL I PUT BILLY THE KIDD WAS NOT WHITE HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM READ CAREFULLY THANK YOU


Sunday, August 07, 2005 at 14:52:04 (PDT)
Darrel & Judy Womack
jwma@comcast.net

Derrell

Billy the Kid, was born illegitimate in New York city, Nov. 20 1859 to Catherine McCarty an Irish immigrant. He was call Henry. His mother later married a William E Antrim, Henry used the last name of Antrim, till about 1877 in New Mexico Henry stated calling himself William Bonney.

I have done a lot of research on the McCarty family name, I looked into Henry McCarty/Antrim or William Bonney as he was called.

Not to long ago they were doing some DNA research on Billy the Kid, for some of his possible descendants, his life was fun to look into.

Sorry Derrell, Billy the Kid was White. If you need more information let me know.


Sunday, August 07, 2005 at 07:36:29 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ATTENTION SAM BETH JACK AND OTHERS I HAVE A STORY POSSIBLY THAT CAN REDEFINE HISTORY AS WE KNOW IT MY GREAT UNCLE WOMACKS IN DUNCAN,OK TOLD ME OVER THE WEEKEND THAT MY GREAT GRANDMA SAID BILLY THE KIDD IN THE HISTORY BOOKS WAS NOT THE REAL BILLY THE KIDD BUT A MAN BACK AT THE SAME TIME PERIOD STOLE THE REAL BILLY THE KIDD'S NAME TO MAKE A NAME FOR HIMSELF. TO GET THIS PROVEN I HAVE SENT A TO HISTORY DETECTIVES AT PBS.ORG WILL YALL HELP ME TO TRY AND PROVE THIS. SUBMIT A MISTERY AT PBS.ORG HISTORY DETECTIVES. ALSO THE REAL BILLY THE KIDD WAS POSSIBLY RELATED TO THE WOMACKS OF TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA. AND MY GREAT UNCLES SAID GREAT GRANDMA KNEW THE REAL BILLY THE KIDD AND SHE WAS SAID TO HAVE SAID HE WAS A GOOD MAN. PLZ HELP


Saturday, August 06, 2005 at 15:14:07 (PDT)
Bill Brown (William L.)
newsguybb@sbcglobal.net


My proven GG Grandfather was Alexander WOMACK (about 1837-after 1870)
Full name may have been Alexander William or William Alexander.
He is on the 1870 census of Drew County, Arkansas as Alexander WOMACK...age 33, with wife, Mary..age 17, and one daughter, Willie M....age 1. Two years later, they had a 2nd daughter, Manie Leona. On that census, he says he was born in Illinois.
On the list of marriages in Drew County 1861-1869 (no specific years given) my proven GG Grandmother, Mary E. STUCKEY is shown marrying "William WOMACK", undoubtedly the same man.
In 1876, Mary, listed as a widow, remarries a man named William Porter DICKSON, born in Tennessee...so it seems obvious Alexander (or William) died between 1870 and 1876.
I'd like the name of Alexander's father and mother, and the line connecting the family back to the earlier WOMACKS. Sorry, I don't have a county in Illinois. Thanks a lot. Bill Brown Richardson, Texas


Saturday, August 06, 2005 at 10:28:44 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Hi Dale,

Your Womack family is on line at Rootsweb's World Connect http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi Mary Ella was the daughter of Samuel Martin Womack, son of Richard Womack and Matilda Moxley. Researcher Annette Womack has the line up to Mary Ella's generation.

Beth


Saturday, August 06, 2005 at 00:06:07 (PDT)
Dale
wdaleduck@msn.com

looking for more info on Ella Womack, born about 1877, Benton Ar. Father: Samual Martin Womack, Mother: Lavina or Vinie Anderson. Ella is probably My great Grandmother and I Know nothing of her line. She married my great-grandfather Thomas Blankenship in Benton county Arkansas. Any help appreciated. Contact me at wdaleduck@msn.com

thank you and God Bless


Friday, August 05, 2005 at 02:30:26 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

MUGU BOY
You think you have posted the juvenile sounding post on the message board with a false e-mail address that can't be traced. Now hear this your incoming post has your REAL address and a post can be traced to your ISP and a complaint lodged against you that may cause your ISP to discontinue your internet service. What you are doing is illegal and can be reported to the proper authorites. I suspect that you are a juvenile or possibly an adult with a juvenile mentality, either way you should go to this URL and read.
http://www.spamlaws.com/ also http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp, the FBI reporting site or http://www.fraud.org/. Your post has been reported to http://www.spamabuse.org/ . This is not the first post of this nature you have placed on this site.
I highly recommend you refrain from any future post on this site.


Thursday, August 04, 2005 at 20:36:40 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Jodie,

I am not related to this Womack line, and I don't have any answers to your questions, only sugestions.

Go to the library where the local newspaper is archived and find the issues for December 8, 1908 and days following. The newspaper should give you information of the circumstances of her death.

If you have a local funeral home which has been in business for eons, they could possible have data on her burial plot. Sometimes future owners of the funeral homes are given the records of the former owner. The Womack Cemetery might not be large enough for a sextant, but SOMEONE has been keeping records. A lot of cemeteries set aside an annual day for cleaning, visiting and sharing good food and stories of the family. This cemetery might do this.

Nannie's brother, Lucian lived until 1963 according to researchers on Rootsweb's World Connect. Perhaps he has a stone.

Finally, Russell County Deputy Jailer, who made the news recently, Randy Womack, could possible direct you to the law inforcement agency who investigated Nannie's death, i.e. local, county or state.

BTW, Jodie, according to the researchers, Nannie's birth date is 7 Apr 1898. I verified this information on the 1900 census.

If you do decide to put a stone in the cemetery for Nannie, the Womack genealogists fifty years from now will thank you!


Thursday, August 04, 2005 at 11:50:48 (PDT)
Jodie L. Lamb
JodieLLamb@Hotmail.com

I am interested in the murder of Nannie Womack, an 8 yr. old girl in Russell County KY. the year was 1908 Dec 8. If you have any information I would greatly appreciate it. I also have some family history dating back to the 1600's. Nannie is buried in the Womack Family Cemetery in Russell Springs at Webb's Cross Roads but I'm not sure which one is her grave. I live with her nephew and we would like to buy her a headstone. If anyone knows any of theis information it would be greatly appreciated...Thank You, Jodie Lamb


Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:05:15 (PDT)
k. womack jenness
bajira@yahoo.com

Hello,
I am searching for the relatives of my grandfather, his name was Lester lee Womack sr. His father was Albert lee womack and mothers madden name was Marie Martin. They would be from either Tx, ok, or ark. Any information would help. Thanks


Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 12:33:48 (PDT)
Randall W. Connell
RWC5C@aol.com

Sam has indicated several times he is going to quit participating on this site. Fortunately he always comes back and with the valuable knowledge he has I am glad he does. Therefore folks all across the fruited plain, I propose a compromise. Let there be a kinder, gentle Sam, and in return let us thank him and everyone else who find information that we need. What would our forefathers think of us now?


Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 12:26:06 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

If you have collateral families who came to the US from 1830 to 1913, you might want to check out this free web page:

http://www.castlegarden.org/


Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 10:05:51 (PDT)
Jack Womack
Jackwomack@grandecom.net

This I think should apply to us one and all.
One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed. ~ Proverbs 11:24

I am reminded of my Fathers teaching that tells me it is better to give than recieve. We can help others and ourselves as well is we would acknowledge with a kind thank you note when someone helps or posts something you need. Sure it's a busy world and we are forgetful at times in the heat of the battle. On the flip side we should respect others feelings and at leaste give credit when credit is due. The only way we are going to eventually pin our heritage down is to work as a group. Who knows a beginning genealogist may be the one to post the clue we need, thus the moral of this is "post away, right , wrong or indifferent" we'll sort it out in the long run.
Jack


Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 09:21:27 (PDT)
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MUGUMUGU@MUGU.COM
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Monday, August 01, 2005 at 04:58:57 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

WOMAC'S ACADEMY




Womacís Academy was a one room school. It was built of undressed lumber in the late 1800ís.

It was 30 x 60 and had sliding wooden windows that provided some light. Kerosene lamps were
also used. It was located on the Tom Womac farm approximately one mile north of Eastanallee
Baptist Church. Austin Hanks and Miss Lenis Millard were two of the teachers. It was closed
in the early 1920ís.

Source: History of Claxton and Surrounding Area, by Hazel Crittenden Ball.

Thomas Alexander Womac (see article in McMinn Co. and Itís People # 1256) may have been
the founder of this academy.

Edited by Bill Bigham.

WOMAC SCHOOL - CHAPEL

aka

Pine Knot






This school-chapel was located on State Highway 163, a couple hundred yards above the
(Tom Walker Rd) Co Rd 758Ö or a half mile west of the 959 (the Pine Knot Road.) intersect.

Joe Taylor Clark (b. 1918) was raised just below and remembers going to Sunday School there
when he was in the "Card Class." He says the school was a little above the old two story
house recently torn down. About where the little yellow house is now and before you get to the
new brick on the side of the hill that Jerry Perry had built.

We are not sure when the structure was built but it merged with Claxton in 1921. A good estimateis between 1840-1860. About the same as Hanksí Chapel possibly.

It was a one room frame building with a bell on top. It was long before Meadow Fork Baptist
Church which is existing now.

There is no cemetery or much evidence where it stood. The old road used to go higher up the hill.

We are not sure which Womac it was named for, however, a Daniel Womac owned lots of
land in this area, so says Harold Womac a descendent of Alexander Womac. He thinks
Daniel was a brother to Alexander.

The Womac Family is still well populated in the southern end of the county still.

Source: Harold Womac.

Edited by Bill Bigham


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