July 2005 Message Archive



Sunday, July 31, 2005 at 20:44:27 (PDT)
Raechelle Janzen
shelle007@yahoo.com

If anyone would like to have pictures of the following headstones of Womack families that I took today at the Marlow City Cemetery in Oklahoma, I would be glad to share those with you. Just email me directly.

Sinea Noah Womack (Price)and son Noah and husband Plese Price (triple stone)

Malverne and Leamon Womack (double stone)

Melvine (Womack) Price and Joseph Price (double stone)

Isom Conrad Womack, Prudie Mary Alice Beebe Womack, Harmon Womack (triple stone)

Clifford Womack

Sue Womack (double stone with living husband Charles Womack)

I am not sure of who Clifford or Sue Womack are but they are buried closely together and may be some how related to my Womack family.

Raechelle Janzen


Sunday, July 31, 2005 at 08:46:33 (PDT)
Anne M Davies
amd08202@msn.com
Yahoo

I am searching for Tennessee Womacks in the McMinn County Area with an ONLEY connection. I know Nannie Onley married a Womack Beginning of 1900's. Her Father was Edward Onley( His brothers were Levi and Return Onley) and her Mother, Marlissa Randolph, Nannie had three or more children. Jay, Ray and Maybe Ralph. Marlissa had two sister. Hildeguard and Texanna. They lived in or near Calhoun. Nannie may have had a brother, Felix Onley. I would appreciate any information amd08202@msn.com


Saturday, July 30, 2005 at 22:58:36 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Just letting everyone know I found this site it has marriages in every state I believe but in various counties and years but here is the site

http://www.idreamof.com/marriage.html


Saturday, July 30, 2005 at 21:29:33 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Sam
You should cool it for a spell, you are making the south end of a north bound donkey out of your self. Go back to the lodge and have a few more and vent your anger on someone there. The WGN message board is no place for berating all of us. You are doing nothing but showing your true colors and running others off the board. There has been a decrease in post from others due to your attitude that you so apply posted. I have a cousin that refuses to post because she does not want to be ridiculed by you.
If you can't take a little constructive criticism then so be it.
Jack


Saturday, July 30, 2005 at 20:08:10 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn,com

You know I have posted info here for people who have requested it - but nary an acknowledgement whether or not people who were sent that info got it or not.. no more posting, come to me direct and if you dont respond I will black list the hell outta ya - You people ask for info - I have been posting here and sending emails for a long time, most dont know that - but that crap is stopping here as I rarely get an acknowledgement you even got the dang info -- Go back years and that has been my pet peeve -

You want info from me - tell me what you got and I will add to if I have; if I dont will tell you; otherwise dont contact me unless you are willing to let loose with your information.

Sound harsh - yes it may be - But I have been around this WGN for years and other than a few; rarely see sharing of data - I have been castigated, put down , etc for mentioning this; but time y'all got off yer collective arses and turned loose yer info...or you aint Womacks!!


Saturday, July 30, 2005 at 19:34:17 (PDT)
Kathy
harpy12@hotmail.com

Does anyone have any information on an

Aquilla Womack Carter b: abt. 1788

married in Tenn to

Francis Hogg b: abt. 1781 Newberry Dist, SC

both died Pope Co., IL
I would be greatful for any information.


Saturday, July 30, 2005 at 19:24:22 (PDT)
Raechelle Janzen
shelle007@yahoo.com

Hi,
Well I made it to the Hutchins Cemetery near Jacksboro TX (Jack County) this week and took some photos of some of the grave markers. Unfortunately, I didnt locate my GG Grandfather William Jefferson Womacks grave there. I dont know if it has been stolen or what but I can say I was very disappointed that it wasnt there. There were 4 of us searching it and after we walked over it time and time again we decided it just wasnt there. The cemetery is very run down and the markers are hard to read and some are broken and totally illegible. But at least I did locate William Jefferson's mother Elizabeth Ledbetter's grave which was great because at least she is in my direct line but unfortunately hers was hand made from concrete and is extremely hard to read. I also went to the Poolville TX Cemetery and took a picture of Thomas Jefferson Womacks grave marker.I also went to the Jack Co Court House and found marriage licenses for Thomas Marion Womack and CJ Brisco, and Eliza Jane Womack and RG Boatman. I was unable to locate the marriage licenses for Isom Womack or any of the marriages of William Jefferson Womack.
Oh by the way the directions to the cemetery that I got from Erin were right but owner of the property is now a man named Gail Weldon who lives in Jacksboro.

Below is a list of the markers I have pictures of. Contact me by email if you want me to send you any of the pictures. I also have pictures of the Hutchins Cemetery sign and overall picture of the cemetery along with a picture of an old homestead on the property that might have belonged to the Hutchins family of couse that is just a guess.

Hutchins Cemetery:
Dr. HC Burns
Lucinda Burns (wife of HC)
Our Baby boy Milton & Louis Brisco
Lorene Brisco
Elizabeth Ledbetter
Elizabeth Buckner
Isabelle Charity (Womack) Hutchins
Joseph Edward Brisco
Louis C Hutchins
Nancy Fannie Brisco
Neaty Bell Buckner
William Brisco

Poolville Cemetery
Thomas Jefferson Womack


Saturday, July 30, 2005 at 11:34:43 (PDT)
Marie-Claire Webber
les_webbers@hotmail.com

Greetings,

Our place of residence for the past six years has been on Ponce de Leon Court, in Decatur, Ga. The mansion (now converted into 12 appartments) was constructed by Mr. Jesse L. Womack in the 1920's. Mr. Jesse L. Womack, his wife, Clara and son Gilbert are buried in Pleasant Grove Cemetary in Decatur. Jesse L. Womack's sister, Jewel, resided on the street until 1996.

Can anyone help us in finding additional information on this property and this branch of the Womack family? We are grateful for any information you are willing to share.

Many thanks!
Marie-Claire Webber


Friday, July 29, 2005 at 04:08:12 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Ann
Regarding the earlier post:

In 1901 was celebrated the marriage of Mr.[A M] Whortan to Miss Agnes Womack, of Texas, a daughter of K. R. and Sallie (Gossett) Womack. Her father is living and makes his home in Crowley, Colorado, but the mother's demise occurred in 1919.[actually according to the info I have her mother died May 10, 1920]


Friday, July 29, 2005 at 03:47:27 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Beth

Name: George Warmack
City: Not Stated [yes it was - says Ragsdale]
County: Perry
State: Arkansas
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1875
Race: White
Roll: 1530567
Person to Notify: Grace Davis Warmack
Occupation Farmer


Friday, July 29, 2005 at 00:16:23 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

If anyone has access to the WW I Draft Registration Cards thru an Ancestry.com membership, please check this out for me. http://www.accessgenealogy.com/


George Warmack b. 14 Dec 1875 White born in Perry Co., AR

I just need to know from the draft card where the above George Warmack was living ca. 1918 when he registered for the draft.


My great grandparents were in Perry Co., AR prior to 1908, had a son George, but he was born 28 Sept 1894.

Thank you,
Beth


Thursday, July 28, 2005 at 19:52:44 (PDT)
Bob Moore
MooRob4@aol.com
n/a

Hello Womack Researchers:
While searching for my wife' ggrandfather today I found two womack men who died
while in captivity at Point Lookout in Maryland while in the Civil War.
No date of death given, but their military units were given.
1. Benjamin T. Womack, Company "C" 53rd Virginia inf. regt.
1860 Census Virginia, Campbell County, Western District Carth Craig P.O.
Census taken 17 July 1860
744/791 James Womack 45 m carpenter / $50 born Virginia
Mildred Womack 34 f "
Benjamin " 17 m laborer "
Sarah " 12 f "
Mary " 8 f "
Malissa " 6 f "
Jerry " 3 m "
James " 2 m "
Charles Dudley 25 m laborer "
2. James Rufus Womack, Co "A" 30th N. C. Inf Regt.
1860 census North Carolina, Chathan County, Middle Division Pittsboro P.O.
173/165 James Womack 54 m Farmer 4050/4825 Born N.C.
Claranday " 51 f "
Arabella " 28 f Domestic "
Wiley W. " 24 m Farm laborer /250 "
Letitia " 18 f Domestic "
James R. " 17 m farm labor "
Romulous M. " 15 m "
George W. " 12 m "
Young Jones 23 m farm laborer /200 "
Perhaps some of you may have this information, but perhaps others may be looking for it. My wife's ggrandfather was a prisoner of war in this same
camp but he survived. His family from Spartanburg District South Carolina
lost six brothers in the Civil War. My wife's ggrandfather and one other brother survived the war. Bob


Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 21:18:28 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

And by the way, all you aspiring wannabees of American Indian Descent; dont get yer jeans up tight. They aint no Womack in these yewnited states that is 100% American Indian unless he/she was adopted, or the wife of a Womack... and then even the children are diluted... 100 % Genetical impossibility...if thru the male line...........


Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 21:11:53 (PDT)
Sam
sammes

Ann
I can only say what the legal documents say. But, yes, he gotta be that one in OK.


Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:01:19 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Sam, On to the birth records. I believe Cubbe, Cubby and Webb Sherwood are some of the Choctaw Womacks. Possibly that's Cubbie son of George W. who was b. abt 1908, although I thought he was b in CA. Cubby who was the father of Marie b. 1911 would be George W.'s brother I think.

Ann


Tuesday, July 26, 2005 at 23:07:13 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Ann
thanks for looking - at least you are number 4 of 4 that recognize an effort when they see it...


Tuesday, July 26, 2005 at 15:44:37 (PDT)
ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
womackhunter.homestead.com

Sam,

Womack, Guy V Auto Accident

This is Guy son of Kinchen Roger, grandson of Kinchen R, great grandson of Mansel.

It is thought by the family that Guy had picked up a hitchhiker, who whacked him one over the head, causing the accident that led to his death. So, accident/murder.

And that explains where Jake Milledge went - he was still in TX for the WWI draft.

The William born in Powelton GA should be one of mine - that's where Abraham's family lived,
but darned if I know which of the Williams that particular one is.


Sunday, July 24, 2005 at 16:26:49 (PDT)
sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Hey Y'all all out theah!!

Please try these two URLs and let me know what ya think; AND, if you can add to
let me know what ya got and will add to -- thankee muchly...

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dubbie/death/womack-bur-az.html

http://www.samsawadee.net/wonder/womack-birth-az.html


Saturday, July 23, 2005 at 00:24:53 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ATTN Joanna

1920 Census OK,OK Co., 3-Wd Oklahoma City

Womack S D 34 AR AL IA Inspector Produce Comp.
Womack Pearl 31 MS PA AL Accountant Motor Comp.
Womack Sue 9 AR AR MS
Womack B 8 AR AR MS


Friday, July 22, 2005 at 18:32:28 (PDT)
David Womack
dwwomack1959@comcast.net

Joanna,

Quick Search came up with a Jane Wamack (Womack) living with mother Pearl Womack and sister Joyce bothe Jane and Joyce are listed as 6 wich would be 1924. The are listed as living on West Ninth Street in District 102, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma County, Oklahoma.

Wa(o)mack, Pearl Head 42 WD MS PA AL Credit Manager Clothing Store
---------, Joyce Daughter 6 S OK AK MS None
---------, Jane Daughter 6 S OK AK MS None

Hope this helps,

David


Friday, July 22, 2005 at 14:27:23 (PDT)
Joanna Nelson
paukenfrau@hotmail.com

Hi, my grandmother's name was Frances Jane Womack. I don't know much about her except that she was a twin (identical I think--I believe her twin's name was Joyce but I'm not sure), born around 1923 (in Oklahoma I think), married a man by the name of McNabb, lived in Oklahoma City, and died when my mother was about 8, which would have been 1950 or 1951.

I know almost nothing about her, and if anyone has any information about her, that would be great. Thanks.


Friday, July 22, 2005 at 08:39:16 (PDT)
TIM ANDREW WOMACK
RODEOCLOWN64@AOL.COM

HEY ROGER! I CAME ACROSS A LINK THAT WAS NEW TO ME......PERHAPS NOT SO
WITH ALL THE PROFESSIONAL(sic?)RESEARCHERS THAT ARE USING THIS SITE......
WWW.LEGACY.COM TYPE IN THE NAME........WOMACK (AND WATCH WHAT HAPPENS) YOU CAN EVEN PUT YOUR OWN DATES IN THE SPACE AND EVEN,
IF YOU KNOW WHAT CITY THEY LIVED AND DIED IN,THE PROPER NEWS PAPER TO CHECK
THE OBITS.......Y'ALL PROBABLY ALREADY KNEW ALL THIS ANYWAY !!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE ON THIS SITE........TIM A.WOMACK
(KAREN VOLD'S lil'BROTHER)


Wednesday, July 20, 2005 at 15:48:48 (PDT)
Raechelle Janzen
shelle007@yahoo.com

Here are the directions that I got from Erin Dent for the Hutchens Cemetery. She got them from someone who has a Jack Co TX history book. Thanks Erin!!!

Raechelle Janzen

Hutchens Cemetery
Located 4 miles North of Jacksboro on the old Postoak Rd, turn right through double gate and follow road 1 mile east. The cemetery is on the Austin Callaway place.


Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 16:02:07 (PDT)
David Womack
dwwomack1959@comcast.net

Justed wanted to thank Beth and Sam for there help and info provided below.
Also, wanted to provide a link to another site with cemetery information:

http://www.findagrave.com/index.html

I use it off and on, does have ads though.

David


Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 14:38:21 (PDT)
Derrell
dsrobinson2@cox.net

Hello all I went to a Womack reunion in Duncan,Ok over the weekend seen my 91yr old great grandma she is doing pretty good she's still dipping her snuff LOL but anyways everything went well. I met Linda Womack Lewis she has been on here before she is my second cousin and I met and seen 3rd and 4th cousins. About 30 or more people was there and one of my uncles said 2yrs or so ago there was 3times that many so anyways my great aunts filled me in on some stuff. The Womack's owned land there there and it is now Duncan Lake. But I am going to try and go back in August on my vacation Lord's will nothing happens by then. Now I see why we haven't gotten all the Womack line info. yet LOL Families are huge. But anyways figured I'd let yall know I did finally make it to the reunion.


Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 11:03:19 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Sam
I forgot to mention I was in the Pioneer Cemetery in Eastland Co TX recently for my wifes cousin's funeral and discovered something unusual. All cemeteries bury with the person facing East, this is traditional. There is a grave in the Pioneer Cemetery where the person is facing South, I was told that it was the grave of a horse thief that was hanged where he was caught on a hill close to Rising Star TX. This was done to warn all cattle and horse thief that they could not see Heaven in the East The Cemetery was founded in 1879 if my memory serves me right.
Jack


Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 10:50:13 (PDT)
Jack Womack
Jackwomack@grandecom.net

Sam
I just checked and both of these links are working fine.

http://www.cemeteries-of-tx.com/ and the mirror site at;

http://www.usgennet.org/usa/tx/topic/cemeteries/

Gary Webb and Gloria Mayfield have put a lot of effort in the site, they have added New Mexico, Oklahoma and now Louisiana. I try to contribute as much as I can by walking out cemeteries I visit and record what I can. These guys need all the help they can get. There are some interesting links also, one the "Executions" list the burial places of those that were executed by the state.
Another good site is The Lone Star Junction at http://www.lsjunction.com/
not a cemetery site but a lot of info on the early settlers.


Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 09:28:06 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Jack,
The first link you mentioned has been redone - at least from the main page when you click in on TX Cemeteries - I found only a couple workable links and a week or so ago was in there and it was set up differently and worked fairly well.

The second link is better and is better set up than the other was when it ws working.


Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 06:25:08 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Raechele
What you want are the Texas cemetery sites I use, Go to
http://www.usgennet.org/usa/tx/topic/cemeteries/index.html
There are 32 listings in the Hutchins cemetery and two are Womacks
Womack, Infant Aug 27, 1924 Aug 27, 1924
Womack, William J. 19th Tx Cav. Co. F Walkers Div.

Other good sites are http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~t42cemeteries/
Many photos Here http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~t42cemeteries/
Paul may have directions for you, paulsmith@copper.net
Jack


Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 02:58:18 (PDT)
robyn margaret murphy
smurphy@pgwc.gov.za

hi
i am searching for my great grandfathers,relatives.his name was edward, murphy and he had a son by the name of william birch murphy.edward was irish, and has joined the british army,was sent to south africa,where he married and raised his family.if anyone could assist with me with his distant relatives etc, it would be highly appreciated: my e mail addy as foloows:
smurphy@pgwc.gov.za
many thanks

regards


Monday, July 18, 2005 at 23:57:24 (PDT)
Derrell
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ATTN Raechelle if you take photos of the graves if you don't mind take pictures of all of the even the one that says Womack, infant on it and I will pay you for those thx


Monday, July 18, 2005 at 23:52:03 (PDT)
Derrell
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ATTN Raechelle e-mail Janet Walker at this e-mail she had told me before it is on private land but if I was to go there she would give me here cousins as a way to contact them and they might be able to have gotten me on the land so write her and she will probably help ya with it all just tell her I told ya to e-mail her. Janet--->walkerjt@ptsi.net

And I would love to have copies of those pics if you don't mind when you get ready


Monday, July 18, 2005 at 18:04:30 (PDT)
Melissa
mnbrown2003@yahoo.com

I am searching for info about Copiah County Mississippi Browns and Boyds.

I am the granddaughter of Shurly Boyd, who later changed his name to Sheddie Brown, adopting the surname of his father Alpheus Brown and Beulah Boyd.

I belive Alpheus Brown's cousin Burdean Womack attended Coppiah County Public School in Hazelhrst, Mississippi. He was born March 20, 1915


Monday, July 18, 2005 at 16:18:13 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Raechele
The cemetery is near Jacksboro TX - his obit is at
http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/RandysTexas/images/WomackObit1.JPG -

and another reference is at http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/RandysTexas/womack.html


Monday, July 18, 2005 at 14:46:23 (PDT)
Raechelle
shelle007@yahoo.com

Can anyone give me directions to the Hutchins Cemetery in Jack Co Texas? I have searched the Web to no avail. I am going there next week if I can figure out how to get there. My great great Grandfather William Jefferson Womack and several other family members are buried there. I will be willing to share photographs when I get back from my trip.

Thanks in Advance
Raechelle


Sunday, July 17, 2005 at 12:27:13 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

David
Thought you might like to know where they were interred:

HOWARD COUNTRY AR
Old Corinth Cemetery
Womack, Dennis W. -- Jun 15, 1857 - Jan 19, 1929;
Womack, James Michael -- Jul 01, 1859 - May 22, 1885; Son of D. D. & Lydia )Dennis' Brother)
Womack, D. D. -- Dec 07, 1829 - Mar 06, 1898, Age 68 yr 2 mo 29 d; (Dennis' father)
Womack, Lydia E. -- Apr 25, 1828 - Jun 19, 1913; Wife of D. D. Womack (Dennis'mother)
Womack, Michael -- 1794 - 1861; Sarah Jones -- 1795 - 1865; (Dennis' grandparents)
War of 1812 Honor of Service Marker (Michael has been given credit as the TN marksman that
killed Gen Packingham at the Battle of New Orleans


Sunday, July 17, 2005 at 12:25:41 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

David,

On the 1920 Greenville, Hunt Co., Texas, there's a J. E. Womack, age 24. I found his draft registration card, dated 4 June 1917. His name is Joseph E. Womack, b. 29 Nov 1895. He is single, living at Rt. 1, Greenville, TX On the card where it says "who to notify" it has J. M. Womack. Another Womack with the same info is Lester M. Womack, b. 16 Nov 1896. They are brothers. Greenville is not that far from Leonard.

I've traced this line back to 1860.


Saturday, July 16, 2005 at 22:18:57 (PDT)
patricia harlan
PLangH99@aol.com

Can anyone identify the Richard Womack who was divorced in Simpson County, MS
in 1834. His wife was Lucinda. In the Superior Court records it states she
went to Alabama for a short time and then moved to Smith County, MS. The records also mentions a child. Who is Richard's father? There are several
Richard Womack in Simpson County, MS in 1830.


Saturday, July 16, 2005 at 17:15:46 (PDT)
David Womack
dwwomack1959@comcast.net

Sam,
Thanks so much for the information.
David


Saturday, July 16, 2005 at 10:53:37 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

David
Best I could do for right now

1. DAVID DICKINS 17 WOMACK (MICHAEL 16, DAVID 035, ALEXANDER 14, RICHARD JR3, RICHARD SR.2, WILLIAM 011) was born Dec 07, 1829 in Bedford Co TN, and died Mar 06, 1898 in Howard Co AR. He married LYDIA EMALINE LOKEY Mar 06, 1848. She was born Apr 25, 1828, and died Jun 19, 1913 in Howard Co AR.

Notes for DAVID DICKINS 1 WOMACK:
David was a millwright - owned and operated the Nashville Woolen Mill which produced jeans,
flannels, blankets, etc.David was a millwright - owned and operated the Nashville Woolen Mill which produced jeans, flannels, blankets, etc .

1880 Census, Nashville, Howard Co, AR
David WOMACK Self M Male W 50 TN Miller VA SC
Liddy E. WOMACK Wife M Female W 57 TN Keeping House TN TN
Jeamul M. WOMACK Son S Male W 21 AR At School TN TN
David D. WOMACK Son S Male W 19 AR Farm Laborer TN TN
Josephine WOMACK Dau S Female W 15 AR At Home TN TN
Katherine WOMACK Dau S Female W 11 AR At Home TN TN
Liddy, or Lydia's age is shown as 57 on the original census image - does conflict with
actual birthdate.

1870 Census Brewer Twp, Pike Co, AR, Dwelling/Family 45/45

David D Womack age 40 born TN
Lydia E age 41 Born TN
Sarah E age 20 born AR[all children born AR]
Charles W age 18
Francis A age 16 [female]
Dennis W age 14
James M age 12
John D age 10
Mary I or J age 05
Katie E age 02
David A age 14 [see 1870 above, age conflict]

You will note in the genealogy report, the lineage --
I had a heckuvva time trying to find Joe or Joseph Granville. could not
find on 1880 nor 1900 censuses. Ar Nor TX
Couldnt find Dennis on the 1880, AR nor TX.


Saturday, July 16, 2005 at 07:41:13 (PDT)
David Womack
dwwomack1959@comcast.net

Been trying for years trace my Womack roots past my Grandfather
Granville Curtis Womack and I think I might finally have a connection.
All I knew about my great-grandfather was his name, "Joe" and he never married my great-grandmother (such a scandal for the times). I found a Joe Granville Womack that seems to fit, especially with the middle name Granville and that being my grandfather's first name. Here is what I know about this Joe Womack and his parents:

Descendants of Dennis Whitmore Womack

Generation No. 1
1. DENNIS WHITMORE WOMACK born 15 Jun 1857 in Pike, AR, and died 19 Jan 1929 in Centre Point, Howard, AR. He married MARTHA J. TRIBBLE 28 Feb 1877 in Hempstead, AR, daughter of JOHN TRIBBLE and SARAH FULKS. She was born 17 Nov 1858 in AR, USA, and died 15 Jul 1937 in AR, USA.

Children of DENNIS WOMACK and MARTHA WOMACK are:
i. JOSEPH GRANVILLE WOMACK, b. 27 Nov 1877, Arkansas; d. Bef. 1930.
ii. SALLY D. WOMACK, b. 1881, Arkansas; m. JIM THOMAS, 19 Jan 1916.
iii. LULA WOMACK, b. 12 Sep 1883, Arkansas.

Generation No. 2

2. JOSEPH GRANVILLE WOMACK was born 27 Nov 1877 in Arkansas, and died Bef. 1930. He married (1) NORA V. WILEY 27 Jan 1901, daughter of ROBERT WILEY and SARAH UNKNOWN. She was born Feb 1881 in Texas, and died Bet. 1908 - 1910 in Texas. He married (3) MYRTIE CRAWFORD 19 Oct 1924.

Notes for JOSEPH GRANVILLE WOMACK:
1910 U.S. Census Texas Hunt 2 Justice Precinct.
1917 World War I Draft Registration Card Collin Farmersville. Next of Kin listed as Mrs. M.J. Womack of Center Point, Arkansas
1920 U.S. Census Texas Collin Farmersville ED# 15 listed as a lodger in the household of Henry Dillan.

Children of JOSEPH WOMACK and NORA WILEY are:
i. WILLIAM DENNIS WOMACK, b. 12 Nov 1901, Texas; d. 19 Dec 1973, Ozona, Crockett, Texas.
ii. CLOVIS CAHAL WOMACK, b. 14 Apr 1908, Texas; d. 13 Mar 1966, Tom Green, Texas.

My Grandfather was born 24 Jun 1912 in Fannin County, Texas.

Does anyone know anything about this Joseph Granville Womack and family? I am at a major brick wall on this. Thanks in advance.

David Womack


Friday, July 15, 2005 at 21:09:51 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

OOps
Yes I know the additional info from SC wasnt death info - but two of the names should interest Beth anyway!!


Friday, July 15, 2005 at 17:19:23 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

All
I was puttering around with Google and came up with this URL

http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/deathrecords.html

It is basically what it implies - someone has went to a lot of time to gather and index this information -- some links dont work - some you can get the death information down to the wife and parents of the individual -- info and access varies by state -- some you have to pay to get in - when those come up I suggest you review the pages I placed Womack Death info on ---

I found there was info there on deaths that I didnt have access to at the time
I did my thing.

Give you an idea of what is available on some of the state pages, here is an example from SC:

View Details - Record: 2 of 8 records
Series: S213184 Volume - 0020 Page - 00495 Item - 01
Date: 1771/03/05
Description: WOMACK, ISHAM, PLAT FOR 400 ACRES IN CRAVEN COUNTY.
View Details - Record: 3 of 8 records
Series: S111001 Volume - 0013 Page - 00514 Item - 05
Date: 1775/06/16
Description: ELLIOTT, THOMAS, MEMORIAL FOR 13 TRACTS MAKING A TOTAL OF 2,950 ACRES IN S. C.
View Details - Record: 4 of 8 records
Series: S108092 Reel - 0162 Frame - 00177 ignore - 00
Date: 1776 C. OR LATER
Description: WOMACK, JACOB, ACCOUNT AUDITED (FILE NO. 8716A) OF CLAIMS GROWING OUT OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
View Details - Record: 5 of 8 records
Series: S108092 Reel - 0162 Frame - 00182 ignore - 00
Date: 1776 C. OR LATER
Description: WOMACK, JOHNSON, ACCOUNT AUDITED (FILE NO. 8716B) OF CLAIMS GROWING OUT OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
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Series: L10005 Reel - 0010 Plat - 05323 ignore - 00
Date: 1776/04/20
Description: WOMACK, ABRAHAM, PLAT OF 1,000 ACRES ON WANDO RIVER, SURVEYED BY JAMES RIVERS. (C.345)
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Series: S213190 Volume - 0032 Page - 00579 Item - 01
Date: 1796/02/13
Description: VICK, NANCY B., PLAT FOR 344 ACRES ON BRANCH OF BEAVER DAM CREEK, PENDLETON COUNTY, NINETY SIX DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY JOHN CLARKE KILPATRICK.
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Series: S213192 Volume - 0038 Page - 00078 Item - 02
Date: 1800/09/27
Description: WOMACK, WILLIAM, PLAT FOR 120 ACRES ON BRANCH OF COLONELS FORK, PENDLETON COUNTY, WASHINGTON DISTRICT, SURVEYED BY JOHN CLARKE KILPATRICK.

Even tho the name is different, i.e. Vick, Womack is mentioned - the Series/Volume/Page/Item gives you the location if you want to obtain a copy of the document -- pretty neat huh??
Anyway jest wanted to share this with ya..


Friday, July 15, 2005 at 16:09:43 (PDT)
KENT
DAVISTK@realtracs.com

Sam,

Thanks for the information. I had not began to look back past Hawkins Womack. I noticed that you did not have a death date for Jennie Cooper Womack. There are two gravestones for her in County Line Cemetery. The old one says Jennie Womack, age 83 years, a new one shows Jennie Cooper Womack 1803 - 1886, wife of Hawkins Womack 1806 - 1854. I have a picture of them. I also took pictures of the grave stones for D. S. Womack, Ruth Morris Womack, B. A. & Jane Womack and Agnes Jane Womack Reeves.

I also copied many marriage records for Womacks in Bedford, Lincoln and Moore Counties along with cemetery records.

Kent


Friday, July 15, 2005 at 04:55:30 (PDT)
Nelson Womack
nwomack@neb.rr.com

Sam & Beth,

Sam you are correct about the census, I've never been able to find Jasper or his sister Susanna Rosella "Rose" in the 1870 census. I believe that they are with their mother, Mary Ann "Polly" Pirtle.

By 1880 Rose is married and living in Wayne County, MO:
Marriage License:

State of MO, County of Madison:
This is to certify that on the 17 day of June 1880 Mr. Lafayette Morris and Miss Rosella Womack were by me united in marriage according to the Laws of God and of the State of Missouri at my residence in the county of Madison and State of Missouri. Elder H.J. Uray
Filed for record Sept 3rd 1880 W.J. Collier Recorder

1880 U.S. Census Wayne County, MO

Dwelling #185, Family #186, Morris, Fayette, M, age 26, Head, Born in MO, Father born in MO, Mother born in MO; Morris, Rose, F, age 15, Wife, Born in MO, Father born in MO, Mother born in MO; Morris, Wm T., M, age 6, Son, Born in MO, Father born in MO, Mother born in MO; Morris, Sarah A., F, age 42, Mother, Born in IN, Father born in IN, Mother born in IN; Morris, John, M, age 21, Brother, Born in MO, Father born in IN, Mother born in IN; Morris, Lucinda, F, age 15, Sister, Born in MO, Father born in IN, Mother born in IN; Morris, Charles, M, age 23, Brother, Born in MO, Father born in IN, Mother born in IN

Jasper is also in Wayne County, MO in 1880; I believe that the Isaac J Wamac is Jasper M. Womack, because Mary married a Henry Hale in Madison County, MO June 8, 1873 and Mary had a brother named Isaac Jasper Pirtle. Her father's name was Isaac N. Pirtle.

1880 U.S. Census Wayne County, Benton Township, MO

Dwelling #224, Family #225, Hail, Henry, Head, M, age 51, Born in VA, Father born in VA, mother born in France; Hail, Mary, Wife, F, age 42, Born in IN, Father born in IN, Mother born in IN; Hail, Charles, Son, M, age 5, Born in MO, Father born in VA, Mother born in IN; Hail, George E., Son, M, age 2, Born in MO, Father born in VA, Mother born in IN; Wamac, Isaac J., Step-son, age 13, Born in IL, Father born in MO, Mother born in IN.

Beth

Edward Turl Womack, yes Turl is correct, was my grandfather.


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 23:27:54 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Nelson
Thanks
that was my assumption even if I never found him on a census until later in life - however, methinks all the census data was not transcribed --


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 23:15:51 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Your very welcome, Judy.


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 21:26:23 (PDT)
Judy and Darrel Womack
jwma@comcast.net

Beth I wish to thank you, I just got a copy of my G Uncle's WW 1 draft card. He had talked so much about the 1st WW War, he and our son talk about Germany as our son was serving where Art had been fighting. Art died May 1987, at age 93.
Thank you again


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 19:20:15 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Thanks, Nelson! BTW - do you descend from Ed or Emmett?


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Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 18:07:42 (PDT)
Nelson Womack
nwomack@neb.rr.com

Sam,

Jasper M. Womack is the son of Abner & Mary Ann "Polly" (Pirtle) Womack.

Jasper Marion Womack Obituary:

Jasper Marion Womack, was born to Abner and Polly Ann Womack; May 13, 1867 and departed this life on 7-8-1957, at the age of 90 years, one month,and 25 days. He was united in marriage to Ella Alma House on July 31, 1898, and to this union was born 10 children, 3 of whom preceded him in death, 2 sons, Luther and Ciccro and one daughter, Hazel. He leaves to morn his passing, his wife, Mrs. Ella Womack, 5 sons, Tom, Raymond, and Cecil of Van Buren, Willard of St. Louis, and Ralph of Sullivan. Two daughters, Mrs. Jewell Townsend of Van Buren and Mrs. Nellie Carpenter of St. Louis. Also two sons by previous marriage, Ed of Leadington and Emmett of St. Louis, 48 grandchildren, 60 great grandchildren, and 9 great, great grandchildren and a host of relatives and friends.
Services were held at the Assembly of God Church on July 10, 1957, with interment in the Van Buren Cemetery. McSpadden Funeral Home was in charge of the services.

He is also mentioned Christian Levi Womack's Obit.

C.L. Womack Obituary:

Christian Levi Womack, son of Abner and Lucinda Womack, was born on January 25, 1860 in Perry County, MO, and died at the home of his daughter, Mrs. C.M. Deitzel, in Redford, Mich., on Monday, December 25, 1939, aged 79 years 11 months.

Funeral services were held Thursday at 1:30 pm at the Flat River Church of Christ, followed by interment in the Mine La Motte Cemetery. Hood Service.

On November 6, 1881, he was untied in marriage to Sarah Dalton, who preceeded him in death seventeen years. They were the parents of seven children, a son Frank, a daughter Lellie (Mrs. J. W.) Wright and a stepson, William Buxton, having also preceded him in death.

He leaves to mourn his passing five daughters, Mrs. W.A. Green and Fred Arnoldi of Ecorse, Mich., Mrs. C.M. Deitzel of Redford, Mich., Mrs. Arthur Rogers and Mrs. Gus McMillen of Flat River; also a stepson, James Buxton of Ecorse, Mich., a half sister, Mrs. Wilbur Hughes of Doe Run; a half-brother, Jasper Womack of Van Buren; twenty grandchildren, seventeen great grandchildren, other relatives and many friends.

Early in life Mr. Womack was converted and at the time of his death was a member of the Church of Christ at River Rouge. He was loving father and grandfather and his kindly influence will live on in the hearts of everyone left behind.


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 17:26:36 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Mary and Beth
Have some more information - goo, bad or indifferent - I am sending via e-mail as it is rather large for posting here - but the gist of it is - I cannot connect Jasper M to Abner T in anyway, census, LDS, nor Ancestry,

Sam


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 16:33:36 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Kent you got the right bunch --
Just a litle prelim stuff - I am sure others will pitch in:

Descendants of Alexander 1 Womack

1 Alexander 1 Womack b: 1710 Dale Parish, Henrico County, VA d: Bef. Apr 01, 1784 Prince Edward Co VA
...+Martha 2 b: Abt. 1720 m: Dec 13, 1742
...2 David 03 Womack b: Abt. 1765 VA
.. +Elizabeth 07 b: Abt. 1773 VA m: Bef. 1794
.......3 Elisha H Womack b: Jul 04, 1789 Va. d: Jul 15, 1878 Lynchburg, Moore Co., Tn. Burial: Lynchburg Cem., Lynchburg, Moore Co., Tn.
.........+Mary 17
.......3 David 08 Womack b: Abt. 1790
.........+Elizabeth//2
.......3 Michael 1 Womack b: Abt. 1794 VA d: 1861 Howard Co., Ark. Burial: Corinth Cem., Corinth, Howard Co., Ark.
..........+Sarah 2 Jones b: Abt. 1795 NC d: Abt. 1865 Howard Co, AR m: 1810 in Bedford Co TN
.......3 Hawkins Womack b: Abt. 1806 VA d: 1854
..........+Jane Jenny Cooper b: abt 1808 NC

Alexander is my 5th great -


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 15:51:48 (PDT)
Kent Davis
DAVISTK@realtracs.com

Hello Womack Researchers,

I started working on my Womack line a couple of years ago. My line goes through (1)Hawkins Womack, (2)James Solomon Womack, (3)David Womack, (4)Agnes Jane Womack, (5)Annie B. Reeves, (6)Loyd Cooper Davis (my grandfather).

My grandfather is 96 years old and he gave me much of the information and went with me to various cemeteries in Bedford, Moore and Lincoln Counties in Tennessee. We live in Marshall County, Tennessee.

Does anyone know of a website that has this line posted? I would like to compare my work with others that have studied this line.

Thanks
Kent


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 15:31:37 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Mary,

Benton is the township they resided in.

Your Womack line goes like this: (ah so, ah so, again flying by the seat of my pants.....I probably need correcting on the lineage!)

Abraham Womack
William Womack + Mary Jane Allen
William Womack + Mary Elizabeth Farley
Abraham Womack + Elizabeth Stubblefield
William Womack + Lucinda Womack, dau. of Thomas & Louvisa Rice Womack
William "Buck" Womack + Sarah McBee
Abner Terril Womack
+ 1st Lucinda Hahn - died ca. 1865
+ 2nd Mary Pirtle Womack Jobe - divorced
+ 3rd Mary Johnson
Jasper Marion Womack
+ 1st Florence Elizabeth Jane Murphy Deboard
+ 2nd Ella House

Children of Jasper Marion Womack and Florence Eliza Jane Murphy are:
Edward Turl (Terril?) Womack, b. 9 Apr 1889, d. 4 Dec 1968
+ Minnie Mae Morris
Emmett Byron Womack, b. 30 Apr 1894, d. 6 Dec 1989
+ Virginia Mary Ann Hale

Your gggrandmother, Florence Eliza Jane Murphy, b. 13 May 1874, d. 12 June 1938, was the dau. of Emmett Murphy and Armentie Ratliff. Florence m. 2nd Steven Gilmore Deboard.

You have a "cuzzin", Nelson Womack, who also descends from Jasper Marion Womack. He is a researcher on WGN. His email addy is: nwomack@neb.rr.com


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 14:06:09 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Mary
Took me about 3 hours or so but came up with this onyour family line:

Name: Florence Eliza Jane Murphy
Sex: F
Birth: 13 MAY 1874 in Texas Co MO
Death: 3 JUN 1938 in Annapolis, Iron Co MO
Death: 12 JUN 1938
Burial: Minimum Cem in Minimum MO
Note:
Date: 11/5/01 8:37:59 PM Central Standard Time
From: nwomack@neb.rr.com (Nelson Womack)
To: hldebord@aol.com (abstracted by HLD)
I can help with the information of Stephen Gilmore DeBoard's second wife:
Her name was Florence E.J. Murphy, was born June 15, 1874 and died June 12, 1938. She was the daughter of William Murphy(but I do not have proof, family oral history). She married (1) Jasper Marion Womack on June 10, 1888. The had two sons: Edward Turl Womack (my grandfather), and Emmett Womack. Apparently they divorced. Jasper married Ella House and had several children. Florence E.J. married (2) Stephen Gilmore DeBoard on June 13, 1897 in Iron County, MO.
Nelson Womack

Subj: Florence Murphy Deboard (abstracted by HLD)
Date: 5/9/04 1:44:30 PM Central Daylight Time
From: nwomack@neb.rr.com (Nelson Womack)
I just received Florence (Murphy) DeBoard's death certificate in the mail the other day. Her full name was Florence Eliza Jane Murphy, born 5-13-1874 in Texas County, MO, died 6-3-1938 in Annapolis, Iron County, MO. Her parents are listed as Emmett Murphy and Armentie Ratliff.
Nelson Womack


Father: Emmett Murphy
Mother: Armentie Ratliff
Suggested Next Step:
Search OneWorldTree for:
Murphy, Florence Eliza Jane

Marriage 1 Jasper Marion Womack
Married: 10 JUN 1888
Children
Edward Turl Womack
Emmett B. Womack b: 1896 in MO

I found this by inputting her Deboard son, William into Ancestry...


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 08:27:56 (PDT)
Mary Conner
ttr225rider2001@yahoo.com

Derrell

Thanks for looking! Any ideas as to how I can find out who the parents of Emmet Womack and Virginia Hale are? I would really like to trace my family history back as far as I can. I am very interested in finding out who my ancestors were as well as what my blood lines are.

Thanks!


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 06:52:32 (PDT)
Derrell
dsrobinson2@cox.net

I believe u r right Beth here is what I found at www.familysearch.org

Emmett Byron Womack Compact Disc #5 Pin #582699
Sex: M

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Event(s):
Birth: 30 Apr 1894 Place: Annapolis, , MO
Death: 6 Dec 1989 Place: Piedmont, Wayne, Mo

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Parents:
Father:
Mother: Living

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Marriage(s):
Spouse: Virginia Mary Ann Hale Disc #5 Pin #582700

Marriage: 4 Jul 1923 Place:



Submitter:
Frankie rhodes
6428 S. 940 W , Murray, UT, United States of America 84123

Emmett WOMACK
Birth Date: 30 Apr 1894
Death Date: 6 Dec 1989
Social Security Number: 498-10-2102
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Missouri

Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 63957
Localities: Piedmont, Wayne, Missouri


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 06:39:34 (PDT)
Mary Conner
ttr225rider2001@yahoo.com

Beth

Thank you very much! You are correct my great grandfather and great grandmother lived in Piedmont, MO. I believe my grandmothers (Emmett's wife) maiden name was Hale. Could you explain the Benton name to me? Also my grandmothers name was Mary Beatrice Womack (married to Walter Monroe McDowell), so I believe you have found the correct Womack's.

I had thought that my great grandfathers birthday was about 1903, it appears that he was born before that though.

Again thank you for the help and I greatly appreciate you helping my to find my ancestors. It would be great to be able to trace all the way back.

Mary


Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 00:56:13 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Mary Conner~

With not much info to go on, except the SSDI dates of your Emmett Womack and a dau. b. in 1926, I will take a stab at the Womacks of MO.

Here's one who might just fit the bill:

1930 Benton Twp., Wayne Co., MO
Emmit B Wamack Benton, Wayne, MO abt 1895 Missouri White Head
Virginia M Wamack Benton, Wayne, MO abt 1907 Wife
Mary B Wamack Benton, Wayne, MO abt 1925 Daughter
Delbert E Wamack Benton, Wayne, MO abt 1926 Son
Loucile F Wamack Benton, Wayne, MO abt 1928 Daughter

This Emmett B. Womack was b. 30 Apr 1894 and d. 6 Dec 1989 Piedmont, Wayne Co., MO.

If you think this is the right Emmett, we'll take a look for his parents and siblings.

Beth


Wednesday, July 13, 2005 at 19:20:18 (PDT)
Mary Conner
ttr225rider2001@yahoo.com

I am trying to track down my ancestors and have hit a road block. I have gotten to my Great Grandfather Emmett Womack (born 11/14/~1903, died 2/26/1996), wife Virgina Hale. I would like to find who my great grandfathers parents were, if anyone has any information I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!

Please note: There is, I believe, a descrepincy in his birth date. The death record shows his birthdate of 1930. I know this is not correct because my grandmother (one of his daughters) was born in 1926.


Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 10:15:32 (PDT)
Patty Hersh
pattyh@wesleyic.com

I am looking for an Andy and Sue Womack that lived in Kansas City (prior to that in Chicago, Illinois). They had a son name Tom ... should be around 23 now.

We lost touch and have moved back to the midwest and are tryign to locate them.

Please help!!

Thanks,
Patty Hersh


Sunday, July 10, 2005 at 16:38:18 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Ann Lowy
I have the info you want. Sent you an E mail - please read and get back to me.

Sam


Sunday, July 10, 2005 at 07:49:30 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

This tidbit may be of interest to someone;

SEARCY, ISHAM GREEN (1824-1902). Isham Green Searcy, lawyer, soldier, and public official, was born in Rutherford County, Tennessee, on February 24, 1824. He was educated in Tennessee, moved to Texas in his twenties, studied law, and opened a law practice at Anderson in Grimes County by 1853. He married JULIA WOMACK BAKER, probably before coming to Texas. They had three children. During the Civil Warqv he was a first lieutenant in Company D, Eighth Texas Infantry.


Sunday, July 10, 2005 at 04:56:11 (PDT)
Ann Lowy
bazsyb@aol.com

My Great Great Grandmother was Rhoda Womack born in South Lopham, Norfolk UK in 1799, married John Whitebread on 16 June 1818 in St Nicholas church, North Lopham, died March 6 1855 in Stoke Ash, Suffolk UK. Had 7 children.

In St Nicholas church is chart which staes Arthur Womack was rector of Lopham 1578-1607 and Laurence Womack 1607-1657.

Does anyone have any information about Rhoda's parents/siblings and whether she is related to the 2 rectors mentioned above?


Friday, July 08, 2005 at 03:40:37 (PDT)
derrell jr
dragonfly23452002@yahoo.com

FOUND THIS STUFF AT --->

www.amarillolibrary.org

Select--Texshare Databases
USERNAME LOGIN--RMN1009
PASSWORD--------TX79189

CLICK--Heritage Quest Online (WILL BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF PAGE UNDER GENEALOGY AND HISTORY)

THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL HAVE ACCESS TO

Search Census
Search Books
Search Persi
Search Revolutionary War

TITLE OF ARTICLES I HAVE POSTED FOUND IN PERSI SECTION UNDER PEOPLE

Title of Article William Bean bio., Rev. War soldier, PA, NC

Periodical Hamblen Heritage
Morristown, TN: Spring 1998. Vol. 13, Iss. 2



Surname BEAN

Record Type -

Subject -

Locale -

States/Provinces -

Counties -

Countries -





Copies of this article may be obtained by completing the request form.


Friday, July 08, 2005 at 03:31:55 (PDT)
derrell jr
dragonfly23452002@yahoo.com

Title of Article Robert Bean-Martha Womack fam., TN, GA

Periodical American Genealogy Magazine
Stephenville, TX: Jul 1992. Vol. 7, Iss. 4



Surname BEAN, WOMACK

Record Type -

Subject -

Locale -

States/Provinces -

Counties -

Countries -





Copies of this article may be obtained by completing the request form.


Friday, July 08, 2005 at 03:26:37 (PDT)
derrell jr
dragonfly23452002@yahoo.com

Beth I am going to try to head up to the library today and I'll check on Robert Bean and William Womack for yall Lord Will nothing happens by then

Cuz


Thursday, July 07, 2005 at 15:04:30 (PDT)
derrell jr
dragonfly23452002@yahoo.com

It mentions that by the advice "of the honorable the Council of Safety of said province, [we] have ventured to choose Messers John Sevier, Jacob Womack, Charles Robertson, John Carter and John Hail, delegates to represent us in the provincial Congress." They ended the petition by asking that " these our delegates be received and admitted to vote . . . and that part of the county now called Washington District may be erected into a seperate county of North Carolina . . . ". Those signing the petition were: Robert Bean, John Bean, William Bean, William Bean Sr. and Jesse Bean.

Beth there were lots of other names but thought you might want these keep in mind this petition happened at Halifax, November and December of 1776

The list I posted and put there were other names only one I found on the same things I found on Jacob Womack was William Bean

Beth the Lydia you mention was mentioned in that section I post Washington County and the Revolutionary War Here i what was said about her

An advanced scouting group of Indians captured Lydia Bean, wife of William Bean, hurrying to the fort. She was taken to an Indian village and was to be burned, but Nancy Ward stepped forward and saved her. Lydia Bean stayed with Nancy Ward for a short time and taught the Idian squaws how to make butter and cheese.

Beth there is lots where John Bean and William Bean pop up I have your home address if you want I will try and mail copies from the library to you. But I was going to send this deed info. here it is

Washington Co., TN Deeds 1775-1800

Jesse Bean to Richard Gates, 245 acres

The following Revolutionary War soldiers either enlisted in Washington County, lived in Washington County or died in Washington County.

Bean, John; in company of Dragoons to patrol
Bean, William; CPT, Watauga Riflemen
Beard, Robert; VA Line


Thursday, July 07, 2005 at 02:00:40 (PDT)
derrell jr
dragonfly23452002@yahoo.com

1809 Grainger County, Tennessee Tax List

William Bean, 1 free poll
Heirs of Robert Bean, 320 acres B. Station G. Creek


Wednesday, July 06, 2005 at 10:03:22 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
womackhunter.homestead.com

I still can't dredge from my files or memory who the grandkid was who filed all that info in the pension - I suppose I could actually go look, but what's the fun in that! The William I was thinking of was actually son of Martha Bean and Levi Womack, but as we all know, William Womacks are thick on the ground.

As for when Robert died, I just checked and 2 different surveys of the cemetery say 17 Nov 1824, so until someone lays eyes on the stone, I think you should go with that. I've seen it both ways as well.

ANYWAY! Martha Womack Bean supposedly died at the home of her daughter Martha Bean Womack (don't you just love this stuff!) in what is now Calhoun Co. AL. Anyone happen to know where she was buried?

And, our friends in NC granted the following land grants to NC soldiers (which of course included TN at that point)
The heirs of Edmund Bean
The heirs of William Bean
Robert Bean (228 acres, 30 months in service)
the heirs of Jesse Bean
The heirs of Jacob Bean

I'm using the NC archives old index to search....just a sec, I have to send my brain back
10 years to use this interface.....darn it, he's listed there but I can't get it to pull up the record.
Someone might need to drift by the NC state archives and pull the Bean records up to see
where/when they were granted.


Wednesday, July 06, 2005 at 08:42:48 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

This may pin it down a little closer to when Robert was called Colonel:

From bios of Independence Co AR:
Col. Robert Bean ran the first keel-boat up White River and established himself at the mouth of Polk Bayou (Batesville AR) in 1814. So it would appear War of 1812 mebbe was when he became a Colonel.


Wednesday, July 06, 2005 at 06:35:46 (PDT)
Johnny Thomas
thomasjl22@cs.com

Looking for family lines for Mary Ann Womack.
Mary Ann Womack, Jun 10, 1879 Jun 19, 1916, wife of James T Carender,
Jun 02, 1867 Jan 07, 1944, m. Sep 21, 1894. They are both buried in Preston Bend Cemetery, Grayson County,Texas.This is my g/grandparents.
I hav no information about the Womack side of the family.
Can any onee help?
Thank you
Johnny


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 21:25:30 (PDT)
Beth
bhowser@alltel.net

Derrell, Ann and Jim Lotspeich,

Robert Bean, b. 3 May 1764, m. Martha Womack, was the son of Elizabeth Henderson and Lt. John Bean, son of William Bean and Elizabeth Hatton, Lt. John Bean was the brother of William Bean, who m. Lydia Russell, who were the parents of Jesse Bean, father of Col. Robert, Richard and Mark. (more about them below)

Children of Robert Bean and Martha Womack are:
1. Lemuel Bean, b. 1782 d. ca 1849 Itawamba Co., MS m. Sarah Unknown
2. Rhoda Bean, b. 1783 d. ca. 1848, m. John Howard Owens
3. Obadiah Bean, b. 1785 d. ca. 1840 Marion Co., TN m. Barbara Heifner
4. John Bean, b. 1788 d. ca. 1846 Itawamba Co., MS m. Sarah Unknown
5. Elizabeth Bean, b. 1789 d. ca. 1854 Itawamba Co., MS m. John Patton (their dau., Sarah Patton m. Asa Womack, son of William Womack (son of Abraham and Elizabeth Stubblefield) and Lucy Womack (dau. of Thomas Womack and Louvisa Rice)
6. William Bean, b. 1791 d. ca. 1839 Benton Co., AL m. Margaret Unknown
7. Robert Bean, b. 1794 d. ca. 1858 Marion Co., TN m. Sarah Wynne
8. Oliver Bean, b. 1796
9. Sarah Bean, b. 1798 d. ca. 1868 Cherokee Co., TX m. Benjamin F. Selman
10. Jesse Bean, b. 1800 d. ca. 1880 Webster Parish LA m. Nancy Sweeten and Naomi Pyburn
11. Martha Bean, b. 1803 d. ca. 1854 AL m. Levi Berry Womack, brother of the above Asa Womack

Let's get our heads together and see if we can come up with data on Major Jacob Womack and Captain Robert Bean in the same place at the same time. We know they were in Washington Co., TN together as the Overmountain Men fought under Col. John Sevier in the RW. John Sevier signed the Watauga Petition, which Maj. Jake was a committeeman. Here is another possible place where the Womack/Bean families were together. However I really think the Robert Bean below is Col. Robert Bean, son of Jesse Bean, son of William Bean.

1816 TAX LIST LAWRENCE CO., AR
BEAN, Robert
WOMACK, David, father of Larkin OR David of Randolph Co., AR (m. Katie Wood)
WOMACK, Jesse, father of Pleasant, et. al.
WOMACK, John (maybe John L. of Randolph Co., AR)
WOMACK, John (a second listing of the same name)
WOMACK, Johnson

The above Col. Robert Bean was too young to get his rank in the RW and would have been to old for the CW. .....maybe the War of 1812? This Robert Bean's grandfather, William Bean, was a commissioner with Maj. Jake on the Watauga Petition. His brothers Richard and Mark owned a salt mine in an area which became Lovely Co., AR. The Beans and partner ? Sanders were allowed to remain because of the government's need for salt. Mark Bean was the Sheriff of Crawford Co., AR 1821.

1828 Crawford County, Arkansas Tax List
MULBERRY TOWNSHIP
Bean, Mark
Bean, Robert

UPPER TOWNSHIP
Wamack, Larkin

"Several hundred people had made the Lovely Purchase their home, when on 16 Oct 1827 the Arkansas General Assembly, without governmental consent, created Lovely County and placed its seat of government at Nicksville, a few miles above the mouth of Sallisaw Creek in present Sequoyah County, Oklahoma. The Cherokees negotiated and entered a treaty 6 May 1828 whereby they exchanged their lands in Arkansas for seven million acres west of the Arkansas boundary, which was fixed by this treaty at its present location. Among other things, the government agreed to remove all white settlers. Congress passed an act 24 May 1828 providing two quarter sections of land for each head of family, widow or single man over twenty-one who had been displaced by the Treaty of 1828."

Among those families listed are:

WOMACK, JOHN AR Chicot 10/15/1833 Little Rock
WOMACK, JOHNSON AR Chicot 3/27/1834 Little Rock
WOMACK, LARKIN AR Sebastian 11/15/1830 Batesville
WOMACK, PLEASANT AR Desha 1/14/1850 Helena
WOMMACK, WILLIAM AR Jefferson 10/16/1838 Little Rock

The counties above were only the site of the land was they were awarded. I have found no record of any of the above Womacks in these counties.

Last known reference to Major Jacob Womack:
Grainger Co, TN - 1799 - David Womack, Johnston Womack Grainger Co, TN court records 1796 - 1802 (WPA transacription at TN State Archives) - several mentions of Jacob and David Womack. In one court record, Jacob referred to as Major Jacob Womack. In another court record, Jacob and David listed together as part of a jury to lay off a road.

The dates of two children of Maj Jake we can somewhat verify:

Martha Womack (m. Robert Bean) b. 20 Mar 1758 either Henrico Co., VA or Orange Co., NC
Johnson Womack (d. ca. 1838 Madison Co., AR) b. 2 Jan 1762 Goochland Co., VA, per his RW pension app.

From Carlos's book and also the research of Patricia Cox Jackson, a descendant of Johnson Womack:

Children of Maj. Jake we have to date:
1 Martha Womack, b 20 March 1758 d ca 1840 Benton Co Ala m Robert Bean b 3
May 1758
2 Sarah Womack, m ________ LANE (Son of Tidance Lane) *** This is possibly
William, son of Tidance/Tidence Lane
3 Johnson b. 2 Jan 1762 Goochland Co., VA d. ca. 1838 Madison Co., AR
4 John possibly John L. Womack Randolph Co., AR
5 Jesse (Pleasant M. Womack's father (census 1850 Madison Co., AR)
6 David *** Larkin Womack's father
All above the Arkansas early inhabitants
7 William Womack (Pendleton SC, White Co., TN)

Note: Jeremiah, Jonathan, and David of Grainger Co., TN; David and Johnson of Grainger and White Cos., TN. Also Jenkin and Jacob of early Arkansas 1820's

Ann wrote to Jim last week: "Robert Bean, as I recall, was a veteran of the Revolutionary War. I think a Bean might be able to find the document faster than I can, but he was a member of the Over Mountain Men who fought at the Battle of King's Mountain on 7 Oct 1780. He was only 16 at the time but he was mustered up with his relatives. I do think I can tell you where to find a fairly decent listing of their children as a source - one of their grandchildren (which is escaping me) had a widow who filed a pension claim - and listed all KINDS of family information - the name escapes me - William R Womack? but I have the file listed in my notes as......WC 593 from the Indian Wars."

Excerpt of names from Trish Carden's web site, which has a list of soldiers who fought in the Battle of Kings Mountain 7 Oct 1780 pertinent to this discussion:

George Bean
Jesse Bean
Jesse Bean (Capt.)
John Bean
Robert Bean
William Bean (Capt.)
Lane, Aquilla
Lane, Charles
Lane, Isaac
Lane, Isaac, Lieutenant
Lane, James
Lane, Jesse
Lane, John
Lane, Richard
Lane, Samuel
Lane, Tidence
Lane, William
John Sevier (Col.)
Jacob Womach (Capt.)

Derrell, the William R. Womack whom Ann noted above is possibly William, son of Maj. Jake I listed above. If you have an opportunity to work at the library soon, please see what you can come up with on Robert Bean and William Womack.

As Ann said, DAR is disallowing some memberships until further proof of ancestry. I have not seen any proof of Maj. Jake's marriage to a Martha or Mary, or any records where he was with Robert Bean. But we do have Maj. Jacob's marriage to Sarah Johnson in either Lunenburg or Goochland Co., VA.


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 18:34:12 (PDT)
Karin
samsawadee @ msn.com

Karin
Reading posts can be frustrting, I know -- but there is never been a post that changed the descent as follows:

Descendants of Alexander 1 Womack

1 Alexander 1 Womack b: 1710 Dale Parish, Henrico County, VA d: Bef. Apr 01, 1784 Prince Edward Co VA
...+Martha 2 b: Abt. 1720 m: Dec 13, 1742
...2 Alexander 2 Womack b: Aft. 1742 VA d: Bedford Co TN
......+Milly Buckner b: VA d: VA m: Abt. 1762 in VA
...................3 James Alexander III Womack b: 1797 VA d: Abt. 1877 McMinnville, Tn
......................+Mary Neal b: Abt. 1802 NC d: Abt. 1832 NC m: Abt. 1821 in Rutherford Co NC
......................*2nd Wife of James Alexander III Womack:
......................+Freelove Thompson b: Abt. 1805 d: Abt. 1877 m: Aft. 1832
......................*2nd Wife of Alexander 2 Womack:
......................+Sarah McDearmon b: Bet. 1754 - 1781 d: Bet. 1803 - 1871 m: Dec 25, 1798 in Prince Edward Co VA

As far as Martha's maiden name - someone gotta show me a birth cert or bible record - or a family document that shows the name - else - nothing but guesswork. Frivulous posting to LDS and Ancestry has caused all us Womacks a lot of problems - I never post to either unless I am sure - therefore, I have never posted..but some people gotta be a "hey looka me" ....no dang proof nothing - any thing I have out there - has to be looked at and verified - I do know what is fact and conjecture -- up to others to prove the conjecture...

By the way Ann, got your drift on the DAR thang!!


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 15:41:29 (PDT)
Karin Wammack
kariregi@yahoo.com

So is Alexander (married to Martha Alexander or Pruit) James Alexander Womack Sr?? Thank you!


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 15:28:37 (PDT)
Derrell
dsrobinson2@cox.net

BETH I HAD TO POST THE EMAIL I WANTED TO SEND YOU HERE MY COMPUTER POWER PACK BLEW OUT SO UNABLE TO GET EMAIL OUT RIGHT NOW SORRY

Sorry I haven't emailed ya lately had a thunder storm here and the lights went out and when they came back on the power pack on our computer blewso we r trying to get a new one but I went to the library over the weekend and have verification of Major Jacob Womack as truely being a Major actually about 2 or 3 sources states him being a Major in the Reveloutionary War. But here are a couple of deeds I found.

Washington Co. TN Deeds 1775-1800

May 1790

Jacob Womack to John Hampton, South Carolina, 162 Acres

p87-88 September 9th 1786 Jacob Womack, farmer, Burke Co., NC To John Hampton Camden District, S.C., 262 acres on the west side of Fain's branch. CONS: 50 lbs NC money. ADJ: William Carter. SIG. Jacob Womack. WIT: Joseph Greer, James Richardson, John Blanton.

p486-487 [very dim] March 15th 1799 James Wood, part of his 200 acre grant #1264 To Micheal Ingle; 100 acres. CONS: $200. ADJ: Jacob Wammuck, John McGinnes, James Parker, Fain, Henry Taylor, Christopher Taylor. SIG: James Wood. WIT: Wm Bayles, John Sliger, Sr. CT: May 1799

Here is where the verification of Jacob Womack being a Major. I'll just type the lines that lead to the mention of him.

Jacob Brown of Nolichucky (This was a short Bio of Jacob Brown/Jacob Womack only named in it once)

As William's stated, "Brown's forcefulness and capacity entitled him that recognition..." He and John Carter were the two Colonels under Major Jacob Wommack to insure the safety of the area.

MCMAHAN - BLAIR HOUSE

In 1774 John McMahan built a log house at the head of Knob Creek, which was the first house in what is now Tennessee to have a stone chimney and a shingled roof. Joseph and Robert Young, Jacob Womack, Abednego Inman, and the Cobb family were early residents of the Knob Creek community.

Washington County and the Revelutionary War

Jacob Brown and John Carter were both militia colonels: Jacob Womack was major.

Government by North Carolina

The settlements elected John Sevier, John Carter, Charles Robertson, Jacob Womack, and John Hail as representatives to the North Caolina Provincial Assembly meeting at Halifax, November and December 1776. Womack did not attend. ( My addings Beth ---> If Jacob Womack would have attended he would have been one of the first of many who signed North Carolina's first Constitution and Bill of Rights)

It mentions that by the advice"of the honorable the Council of Safety of said province, [we] have ventured to choose Messers John Sevier, Jacob Womack, Charles Robertson, John Carter and John Hail, delegates to representus in the provicial Congress."

An ordinance appended to the North Carolina Constitution named the members of the Washington District Court: Jacob Womack. (There were other names but I didn't type them in)Derrell Jr

In early 1777 the court reorganized and members were: Jacob Womack. (There were other names but I didn't type them in)Derrell Jr

The first term for the Washington County Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions met in February 1778 at the home of Charles Robertson (there was no courthouse). Those taking the oaths as justices of the peace, militia and officers were: Jacob Womack. (There were other names but I didn't type them in)Derrell Jr

County officials chosen were: Jacob Womack, stray master. (There were other names but I didn't type them in)Derrell Jr



Derrell


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 14:06:59 (PDT)
Jim Lotspeich
lotspeich@dock.net

Ann, thanks for the information. Did Robert Bean die on 7 Nov 1824 or 17 Nov 1824? I have seen it listed both ways at different websites and listings.


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 10:48:40 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Jan
Should have posted this also - from LDS files:

Alexander Womack
Birth: About 1745 Virginia
Death: About 1840
Father: Alexander Womack
Mother: Martha Alexander

Alexander Womac
Birth: About 1740 Lunenburg, Virginia
Death: About 1820
Father: Alexander Womac
Mother: Martha Pruitt

If you will note there are two different maiden names for his mother. Have no
idea of the validity of either; nor where anyone got either of them. Nor which of the alleged death years is correct.Would look anywhere between, and if you do find a will, please send me a transcript - I will be looking also and will
send you one if I find it.

You are aware his actual name was James Alexander Jr?? This is proven by the name of his last child, James Alexander Womack III.


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 10:40:59 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Jan
Try Bedford Co TN after 1820.
Sam
(Alex thru Jacob, Judith's brother)


Tuesday, July 05, 2005 at 07:23:52 (PDT)
Jan Wallace
copperpenny1@hotmail.com

I am searching for a will (if there is one) of Alexander Womack Jr. ( s/o Alexander and Martha Womack) who married Mecly/Milly Buckner. I descend thru their daughter Judith Womack who married James Buckner.


Monday, July 04, 2005 at 16:43:03 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
womackhunter.homestead.com

Jim, I've been checking the primary source documentation on various things, and at the moment can give you no primary sources on Martha Womack Bean - however - you don't need it.
Robert Bean, as I recall, was a veteran of the Revolutionary War. I think a Bean might be able to find the document faster than I can, but he was a member of the Over Mountain Men who fought at the Battle of King's Mountain on 7 Oct 1780. He was only 16 at the time but he was mustered up with his relatives. I do think I can tell you where to find a fairly decent listing of their children as a source - one of their grandchildren (which is escaping me) had a widow who filed a pension claim - and listed all KINDS of family information - the name escapes me - William R Womack? but I have the file listed in my notes as......WC 593 from the Indian Wars.
Also, if you want to invest $35 to see if there might be a tidbit of info to help you - the Bean family has a CD of The Bean Tree available - http://www.southernbeanassociation.org/library.htm -
has a link to where you can order it.
Robert Bean died 7 Nov 1824, and is buried in Beane-Roulston Cemetery, Marion Co., TN
Various descendants are members of the DAR, but as you know, they are making new members reprove the old lines to eliminate spurious data (HI SAM!)
Anyway, if you can prove to Robert Bean, you might as well stop there without getting to Jacob.
And then should she remain with us longer and enjoy this sort of thing, she could add Jacob with more research - but if speed is of the essence - go with Robert. The Southern Beans can help you, I'm sure.


Monday, July 04, 2005 at 01:30:49 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

Jim
Just dont use Mary Wills - she is the wife of my 4th great Jacob, a cousin to
the other Jacob and has been confused many times - I guess we will never get
people to make corrections...look thru the messages below and find a Beth--
she has done a lot on Major Jake - perhaps she can help you.
Sam


Sunday, July 03, 2005 at 20:02:15 (PDT)
Jim Lotspeich
lotspeich@dock.net

We are doing research for my mother for her DAR application and are seeking some printed reference to substantiate that Major Jacob Womack is the father of Martha Womack that married Robert Bean. Can any of you be of help? Several websites list the wife of Jacob to be either Mary Wills or Martha with no last name so we are confused there. But a Martha is listed as the daughter and we are seeking substantiation of that relationship for the DAR.

Mother is 89 years old, in poor health, and we are trying to get her application completed and to DAR before she passes. A cousin of hers has established the family link to Martha Womack and Robert Bean. We need to establish the link between Martha and her father Jacob.

Thank you for any assistance you can provide.


Friday, July 01, 2005 at 00:39:34 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee @ msn.com

A little TX trivia fer ye:

Mary C Womack High School
County: Gregg
Lakeport

Womack Cemetery
County: Montgomery
Keenan

Womac Ranch
County: Menard
San Augustine Draw

Womack Ranch Airport
Feature Type: airport
located 11 mi SW from Menard
County: Menard
San Augustine Draw

Womack Farm Airport
located 10 mi SW from Waco
County: McLennan
Gholson

Womack Lake
County: Lamar
Slate Shoals

Womack
County: Bosque
Laguna Park

Womack Branch
stream
County: Bosque
Laguna Park
Clifton

Womack Hall
Feature Type: locale
County: Bosque
Clifton


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