June 2004 Message Archive


Tuesday, June 01, 2004 at 05:08:57 (PDT)
ethel robinson
ethelrobinson2002
ethelrobinson@EARTHLINK.COM

GOOD MORNING, I HAVE BEING TRYING TO REACH ROSEANNE FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW .I HAVE CANCER I WAS FIRED FROM MY JOB BECAUSE I COULD DO THE WORK AND EVERYWHERE IGO WILL NOT CALL ME BACK. I HAVE BREAST CANCER.I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU IN PERSON.I HAVE CUST OF THREE GRANDCHILDREN TAKING CARE OF THEM ON PUBLICAID IS VERY HARD. I NEED HELP .


Tuesday, June 01, 2004 at 06:58:12 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

OK OK Ann
You found me out on the alternative personality thang!! Thought I had thar fairly well under wraps!!

By the way, e mail me your snail mail and I will sent those two wills on Arthur and Henry - I know, I know I promised to copy and e mail them but they dont copy well for some reason - best to leave as -- you can always return them after your perusal and translation --

I am going to haunt the Allen boards and see if I can get anyone to do a DNA thing and see what happens -- who knows, might find something there --

Hope all had a nice memorial day -- no cookout here, jest spaghetti, salad and garlic bread....


Tuesday, June 01, 2004 at 21:50:53 (PDT)
Jackie Perry
JDPerry@verizon.net

Hi,
Do you guys know who are the brothers,like Richard and William and etc?

I would be from the same line that Roger is from, because our Gr Gr grandfathers were brothers, Larkin and William Henry WOMACK ( He went by Henry after he left VA)

Roger,
Do you know if our William, (Gr Gr Gr grandfather from Lynchburg,VA) had any brothers or sisters?
Do you know who Williams parents were?

I do not understand how the markers work with you guys DNA test. Have you found out who is related.


Tuesday, June 01, 2004 at 21:58:45 (PDT)
Lorrie Schaefer
rlschaefer@earthlink.net

Hi- As some of you know, I'm trying to document my Daughters of American Revolution application. These people are getting really sticky about the documentation.

I descend from Abraham Womack who married Matha Mitchell. I contacted North Carolina about a copy of the marriage bond that probably was issued in Granville County. They now require a $20 research fee. Before I pay this fee, I would like to know if any of you know for sure that I will get some kind of document for my money. This is a steep fee to pay for a "no results" response. Thanks to anyone who can help me with deciding if I should pay this fee.

Also, information for the marriage of Noland Lewis Womack to Jane Levingston (Livingston) and death of Noland Lewis Womack was documented in a bible in possession of Alma Harris in the mid 1960's. (According to the information I have, Alma died in 1968.) This was documented by Ollie Kate Harris in her document title "Carter-Livingston-Womack Families in Freestone County" dated 1965. I would like to reference this document in my application, but am afraid that DAR will question who the owner of this bible is at this time. Does anyone know who is in possession of this bible now? (Annie Crenshaw, Ann McDonald and Philip Lowe - I get the feeling that you don't unless something new has turned up.)

Lorrie


Wednesday, June 02, 2004 at 00:17:18 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net

ETHEL ROBINSON WAS YOUR HUSBAND CLYDE ROBINSON. AND WAS YOUR FATHER IN LAW ALONZO ROBINSON AKA LON ROBINSON??


Wednesday, June 02, 2004 at 13:48:22 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Lorrie
They should get sticky - their past record is about 75% suspect as to accuracy as far as I am concerned -- Someone had the audacity to go into the DAR using my 4th great grandmother as the wife of her husbands first cousin twice removed or is that a second cousin in the ancient terminology? -- The information possessed by the DAR is as suspect as the LDS IGI info is - but at least the LDS posts disclaimers now to use as is and come to your own conclusions --

Sorry guys, you know my stand on these "quasi-blueblood" organizations- or in other redneck terminology, "snob citizens!" Take that piece of paper down to Bubba's store and you might get lucky and get an R-O-C cola and a moon pie for a buck er so..


Wednesday, June 02, 2004 at 14:25:27 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Lorrie, well you are in luck. Janet Brewer recently joined on the Abraham Womack line, and so at least that patriot stuff is documented as far as the DAR is concerned. Janet descends from Mansel, not Noland, but it's much of a sameness on the earliest stuff.
You, actually, have a choice of three options. a) I believe you can join on the Jacob Lewis line
b) join on Abraham through the Levingstons, and
c) join on the Abraham line through John. (which is what happens when you marry your cousin!)
I haven't seen the Levingston bible - the info I have on it is from a transcript from a thing called "Treeshaker", a genealogy newsletter published in 1964. Don't know who has it now.
I'm thinking that bond should be at the Granville County clerk's office - I don't think I have a copy, although I might. (I might have anything in my files, frankly) A citation should do it, though. The silly thing has been abstracted a dozen times. John's marriage license is in Warren Co., GA. And then you're on the Levingston family bible. If you can find the whole abstract from "Treeshaker" that should do it for a citation.

Let me check my stuff on the Lewis family again and see what it says. I know I've got a bunch of stuff on Pearce Lewis that Miles sent me.

You might want to ask Janet for a copy of her application, OR, pay the DAR for a copy of it and another one on the Lewis line - ask them for a copy of one for Jacob Lewis through your line. That way, you'll have recent files to at least shorten your search up one generation. You should have in your local DAR chapter a mentor who can help you sort out the documents - as I recall you need a couple of signatures on that thing anyway of other DAR members - but let me triple check my files.

(And Sam, yes your example is why they are making people reprove their lines - we UNproved our Daniel line, and managed to kick out half the family who wanted to join!) And no, folks, I'm not a DAR member. Due to laziness more than anything.


Wednesday, June 02, 2004 at 20:46:32 (PDT)
Lorrie Schaefer
rlschaefer@earthlink.net

Sam and Anne-

Thanks for your responses. I am very grateful for your help in my pursuit!

Lorrie


Saturday, June 05, 2004 at 14:58:44 (PDT)
jerry jenkins walsh
jerry@omniglobal.net

looking for any information on james bradford davis wife about 1870 he was born in ala in 1844 family story is they came to waco texas in a wagon my grt grandmother was margaret r. davis also known as margaret davis cooper also maggie d. cooper she was half indian her mother was from okla. m.r.davis was born in van zandt county texas 1873 she also had a brother frank davis whom later lived in new mexico i am not sure but james davis may have been half indian also anything on james bradford davis an his wife would help me thank you jerry


Saturday, June 05, 2004 at 23:41:54 (PDT)
Teresa Womack Moore
womacka4@aol.com

Hi to all. I have been away for about 2 years. I origionaly posted a message about Bradshaw and Idellar Franklin Womack in 2001. I have figured out that I cannot find any info from Bradshaws decendents because he died when his children were very young. Ideller remarried to a A.J. Moorefield and I feel that Bradshaw's life was just swept under the rug. I think my best chance would be to find relatives and info about his sister Zora Womack Conner Riley. She married Howse Mount Conner in 1897. They had ten children, all of whom are deceased but Lucy Wells of Clover. I have not spoken with her as of yet. She is in her nineties and I dont even know if she can remember anything. If anyone knows anything about Zora's parents who are listed in the Halifax County, VA courthouse as Billy and Liza Womack please let me know. They are listed on Bradshaw and Idellars marriage license as William and Eliza. Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much.
Teresa


Monday, June 07, 2004 at 18:24:41 (PDT)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

Recieved the following email from Silvia, Ray will surely be missed. For those who didn't know Ray he is one of our long time Womack researchers.
Roger Womack

My name is Silvia Womack, Ray's daughter in law. I found your name and
email address in Dad's address book and with not knowing how many of you
already knew of Dad's passing, I decided to send a mass email notification.

It is with deep regret that I inform you of Ray B. Womack Sr., death with
occurred April 30,004. Dad passed peacefully in his sleep. The family
gathered and we buried him in the family plot at the Ortona Cemetery in
Ortona, Florida.

If any of you would like to contact Mom, she can be reached at P.O. Box 96,
Palmdale, FL 33944.

Silvia Womack
woe@gnt.net


Tuesday, June 08, 2004 at 16:42:00 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
http://womackhunter.homestead.com

Well, as promised...finally, I've got my webpage underway to start posting what I have on Abraham Womack of Hancock Co., GA. Slowly but surely....Anyway, I'm still going through my stuff, and will be hopefully updating and posting updates there. At least it's making me organize my files and make a list of stuff I need to look up and research! Ann


Tuesday, June 08, 2004 at 20:19:42 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Yes
Ray will be missed - I just hope all his research is not lost to the the world -I once aske dhim to leave something if anything ever happened to have the info sent to one of us to work with and carry on - I think I will call his wife and ask her to please not throw it all away -- I feel he has more into this Womack research than any one of us has -- I have 32 years and I know he has me beat hands down --


Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 15:57:57 (PDT)
Connie Baumann
Littletn@aol.com

I am so sorry to hear of Ray's passing. I considered him a dear friend, as well as a relative(3rd cousin). He and I have talked and shared information for many years, thru snail mail, by telephone, and online. I will never forget the first letter I ever received from him. He told me the internet was taking over genealogy and he figured he better get online soon, which he did. When he first got on AOL, he wrote me often for help with various Windows functions, as he was much more comfortable using DOS. Ray and I often discussed the fact that he was concerned about what would happen to all his research when he was gone. As a matter of fact, he once ask me, Sam, and Debi(all Womack family) if we would be interested in having his research someday, and of course we all were.
We have lost the best researcher we have ever known,and a wonderful friend. My sympathy goes to Merle, the children, and other relatives.


Friday, June 11, 2004 at 13:37:40 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Connie
And all - Rays family has offered me Ray's research papers and discs and etc - and I have accepted -- so it will not be lost at all -- I appreciate the fact that they remembered me well enough to ask me and I will do my best to ensure it is mad eavailable to all once I get into and set up files and etc -- I was offered a 25mb free domain by my web space server -- and I accepted - I think it fitting that this space be used to record Ray's research -- nothing there yet, but keep eyes on http://samsawadee.members.easyspace.com ( if that dont work let me know ) - from time to time, especially you Connie, I may ask for some clarification of something you and he may have collaborated on -- arrangements havent been made yet for the transfer of the records - will keep you posted as events occur.


Saturday, June 12, 2004 at 08:56:53 (PDT)
Tiffanie Mcdonald
babygirlangeleyes420@yahoo.com

Could someone help me.......I am 19 years old and I currently go to college to be a carpenter! I have been seperated from my father for about 9 years now I really want to find him. If anyone has any information on him please get back to me! His name is Jimmy Dale McDonald he was last seen in Black Oak IN and he is 46 years old red hair and green eyes! Thank you!


Saturday, June 12, 2004 at 12:24:05 (PDT)
Teresa Womack Moore
womacka4@aol.com

I recently went to a family reunion for the Zora Womack Conner family. I was told that Bradshaw Womack from Halifax County, VA had a brother named Jeff. Does this ring a bell for anyone? I went today on a tip about where Bradsaw may have been buried. I didnt find him, but I found a J.D. Womack buried in a feild in Clover on a farm. Dates on the headstone read March 31, 1858 to February 7, 1918. There were also two footmarkers with the initials J D W and J A W. No headstone for J A W. There was also a headstone for a Hugh William McCargo 1815 - 1845. I dont know why he was buried there or how he is connected to the Womacks. The little graveyard was grown up with weeds and there appeared to be more sunken spots around there indicating more graves but there were only the four markers. If this info means anything to anyone, please let me know.
Thanks, Teresa


Saturday, June 12, 2004 at 23:06:43 (PDT)
angie
scooterraye@carolina.rr.net

hi. Looking for infor on Rev. William Womack ,Polk Co NC born sometime mid 1800's , married Matha Jane Philbeck. I know he had at least 5 children, but know nothing of his parents or all but one of his children's families. Thanks


Sunday, June 13, 2004 at 14:56:07 (PDT)
Delores Leddy Cain
delohi3@cox.net

Looking for the parents of my Grandmother, Martha Ellen Womack Weathers. Her parents' names were Lewis Levi Womack and Frances Bargsley> I know my grandmother was born in Texas, but do not have exact location. She was born on February 7, 1882. She married my grandfather, Guerry Walker Weathers on October 4, 1902, in Zephyr, Texas. If anyone has information on this line of the Womack's I'd appreciate hearing from you.

Thanks!

Delores Leddy Cain


Sunday, June 13, 2004 at 15:30:09 (PDT)
Phyllis Bean
dbean@energyunited.net

Does anyone belong to the Daniel Womack lineage born 1793 in Davidson County, North Carolina? He moved to Greene County, Missouri in about 1843. A daughter of his, Elizabeth stayed behind with her husband, Benjamin Myers. May have some info for anyone interested.


Sunday, June 13, 2004 at 18:07:07 (PDT)
angie
scooterraye@carolina.rr.com

Previous posting looking for parents/siblings of Rev. William womack form Polk co nc.Found his parents--Gasaway Womack m. Martha Parker. His grandparents were Anderson Womack and Frances Dobbins. Anyone know anything on Anderson?? Would be from Cleveland Co, Polf, or Rutherford NC? Or William W. Womacks siblings? Also, does anyone have stories of "healers" in the Womack line?


Sunday, June 13, 2004 at 18:20:41 (PDT)
angie
scooterraye@carolina.rr.com

Also searching for Martha Underwood, who has posted info on this forum regarding my line. Would be very interested to hear from you, Martha
Thanks, Angie


Monday, June 14, 2004 at 01:07:24 (PDT)
Karen Coachman Mattson
T.helms@cox.net

Roger,
Thanks for the speedy reply. I have been looking for this site or some site to research my heritage. I am also researching my Creek Indian heritage. It would have been so exciting to have known all of our wonderful
relatives personally; but then, how would we spend all of our "spare" time?

Karen Coachman Mattson


Monday, June 14, 2004 at 07:12:12 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Angie
I have sent you your complete line from William 1 to William C Womack, a 47.5KB attachment but your server timed out before you downloaded it. This is a direct descendants report if it is any help.
Direct Descendants of William Womack, The Immigrant

1 William Womack, The Immigrant 1620 - 1697
. +Mary Jane Allen 1615 - 1685
...... 2 Abraham Womack 1644 - 1733
.......... +Sarah Worsham
.............. 3 Thomas Womack,Sr. 1672 - 1734
.................. +Mary Farley 1690 - 1750
...................... 4 Abraham Womack,Sr 1708 - 1800
.............................. 5 Thomas Womack 1743 - 1790
.................................. +Louvisa Rice 1745 - 1810
...................................... 6 Anderson Womack 1765 - 1848
.......................................... +Frances Fanny Dobbins 1771 - 1863
............................................... 7 Gasaway Womack 1808 - 1869
................................................... +Martha Parker 1808 - 1883
....................................................... 8 William C. Womack 1844 - 1934
You asked about Anderson, I have his complete line in my database.
Please advise how best to send info.
Jack


Monday, June 14, 2004 at 07:26:46 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecom.net

Angie
Correction on the last post, should have read William W.Womack
Direct Descendants of William Womack, The Immigrant

1 William Womack, The Immigrant 1620 - 1697
. +Mary Jane Allen 1615 - 1685
...... 2 Abraham Womack 1644 - 1733
.......... +Sarah Worsham
.............. 3 Thomas Womack,Sr. 1672 - 1734
.................. +Mary Farley 1690 - 1750
...................... 4 Abraham Womack,Sr 1708 - 1800
.............................. 5 Thomas Womack 1743 - 1790
.................................. +Louvisa Rice 1745 - 1810
...................................... 6 Anderson Womack 1765 - 1848
.......................................... +Frances Fanny Dobbins 1771 - 1863
............................................... 7 Gasaway Womack 1808 - 1869
................................................... +Martha Parker 1808 - 1883
....................................................... 8 William W. Womack 1844 - 1934


Monday, June 14, 2004 at 20:12:59 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Jack Jack My Man
You shoulda put a buncha question marks after ole Will the alleged immigrant
and his alleged bride ...


Monday, June 14, 2004 at 22:54:14 (PDT)
Dave Maher
rhondaanddave@ bigpond.com

Always curious when William the Immagrant is mentioned, has anyone any
proof he is the first Womack into America, also where did he come from?
It seems a lot of people try to claim a connection.
If he was supposed to come from England there does not appear to be such a person in English records. The first William was a Womock who died in 1642.
William was not a common family name.
I am always trying to find a connection with my English Womacks and the American line but cannot do so.
Please excuse my typing as I have my hand and arm in plaster, and struggle with one finger.
Dave


Tuesday, June 15, 2004 at 01:29:10 (PDT)
yvonne w. swann
yvonne mock@yahoo.com

im looking to find my real fathers children . i am now 50 years and ready to meat all of you the man who raised me has passed from this world my fathers name was robert terrell swann and i know that he had a good friend or cousin named carvin last name not known . i have some health problems and would like to know more about our grandmother annie baliy? i was told she was pure charokee indeion my mothers name was ramona baretto swann and i was born on the island of kauai hawaii in 1954 april 18 my father was a milatary police man . at the time stationed in honolulu , if any one recegnises the names please e mail me at yvonnemock@yahoo.com


Tuesday, June 15, 2004 at 05:07:15 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Dave
I disagree that the first one was one who died in 1642

There was William Wamuke, ca 1475 and others in between that and 1642 -
I would like to know if the one who died in 1642 was the one named in
Henry's will of 1627ish - there is also a will on a William in the
mid to late 1580's. the Norfolk Records Office has it..


Tuesday, June 15, 2004 at 09:58:35 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

I have a transcript of the will of Arthur Womack dated Jun 7, 1607, proved Jun 27 1607 - in this will he hay have given a hint -- to wit:

Item I will and my mynde is that Lawrence Womocke shall brynge uppe Willm Womocke the sonne of Thos Womocke deceased & bind him appntice to some honest trade and at the age of 21 yeares the said Lawrence Womocke his hieres extors adm or assigns to pay or cause to be payed unto ye said Wm the some of 20 for the ff. . un...ss

Now what happened to this William? How old was he at this time obviously pretty young - was the the one who David mentioned died in 1642; or the one we think died in 1697?


Tuesday, June 15, 2004 at 17:57:40 (PDT)
Tom Puckett
tompktt@yahoo.com

Looking for John Puckett who was a Headright in Henrico Co., VA. Mid 1600's. His land (500 arces) was sorounded by the following Womack families: Richard Womack, 450 acres, North-West of John's land grant. William Walthall, 346 Acres, East of John's land grant. William Walthall, (no number of acres given)South-East of John's land grant.

On another record it states that John's land was bordered by a John Bough.

I am trying to locate were John Puckett's land was or is.

tom puckett, Ely, Nevada


Tuesday, June 15, 2004 at 18:38:10 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Sam
For those of you who are interested in Womack research - the following are the names I found in the will of Arthur Womocke, 1607 - which was translated by a neat lady in England who is doing extensive Womack research - transcribing what she can find in the parish register, etc. Arthur apparently was an extensive landholder, quite rich for the times (dang none of us made it did we?)
He did not mention any of his children. Unless Thomas was one of his rather
Than Lawrence -- He mentioned his wife as Awice (Avice) (translation again)

Thomas Womocke and Anne
William
Arthur
Catherine
Mary
Alice

Hugh Womocke
William
Henry
Arthur
Robert
George
Lawrence

Brothers to Arthur
Hugh
Robert (prob Robert who died in 1609, wife Jenetta)
Thomas(above)

Mentions
Robert Highland - and wife name illegible
Elizabeth Woodes wife of Richard Woodes
(these women may be children of Womacks)

The below names had something to do with debts, land
transactions, etc --
Peter Walton
Edmund Bulcher
John Pearse Deceased
Thomas Pearse his brother
Thomas Fflamstone
Robert Connell
Andrew Ruddocke
Robert Seamun
Richard Seaman
Thomas Vade
John Vade
George Buttey
aforesaid Clarke but didnt see one
Robert Reade (signed)

I would like to think that in these generations our elusive immigrant, whatever his name, was from..


Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 16:06:34 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

On the previous input -- Neither Lawrence nor Thomas was Arthur's son -- The data Roger received from Jan in England showed no children; nor does the data I received from a lady in the UK - Lawrence was apparently a nephew and was tasked
with getting William some sort of trade by the time he was 21 - Thomas was probably a brother to Arthur --

However we do have a William of approx the correct age group in the approximate generation -- but, as best I can tell, of this group of people - there are no Richards or Abrahams to name after --

The Richards apparently were from Yorkshire rather than Norfolk -- Abraham, I havent the foggiest Idea how that creeped in unless was the name of perhaps a relative of the missing generations wife -- bears more research fer shure---

There was really a Mary Judd - but cannot find one married to an Allen, as supposed, so far --

There is a will extent for a William Womack who died in About 1642 - not transcribed yet - mebbe get a copy later on --

Anyway, time marches on and perhaps in the next century some great genealogist will find the missing link --


Friday, June 18, 2004 at 08:20:41 (PDT)
Britton
Shabnam77777@aol.com

Wiley Britton, Civil War writer, son of George and Catherine (Moody) Britton MO. 1842-1930. Brother to Rachel, Clarisa, Eliza, Malinda, Emily, Julia and Celia. Shabnam77777@aol.com Appreciate any information to his family.


Friday, June 18, 2004 at 23:46:10 (PDT)
Dave maher
rhondaanddave@bigpond.com

Hi Sam,
Arthur's wife's name was Alice Rowse, they married 1597 in Hargham Norfolk.
Dave


Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 17:09:39 (PDT)
Bob Moore
MooRob4@aol.com
na

Sam and Forum:
Go to www.GOOGLE.com, there look for "Womacks in England."
I found Richard Woymmocke b. circa 1550, married 19 November 1575
to Margaret Walker. Birth & Marriage in Southwell, Nottingham, England.

Also Richardus Woomack married Marye Wynck on 14 December 1619 in
Yorkshire, England.

There are other marriages listed for Richard Womack, various spellings.
Perhaps we are looking in the wrong Shire, only because the information
and wills seen so far come from the "Broad Lands."


Sunday, June 20, 2004 at 09:53:55 (PDT)
Ann Mcdonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Tom, here's the easiest way of doing this - although you'll end up having to map the land plots out yourself as I can't recall the source or whether I've seen it mapped out.
For a Civil War era map, go to
http://www.womacknet.net/map/bermudahundred/bermuda_hundred_map.htm
or there is quite a lovely repro Civil war map at
http://www.davidrumsey.com/maps5628.html
that shows where the homes were then

For what it is now, go to http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form

type in Bermuda Hundred for the feature name, and Virginia for the state and hit search.
Then, pick Bermuda Hundred in Chesterfield Co. Then pick a map. Bermuda Hundred and Turkey Island are on the James River, at the current border of Henrico and Chesterfield Co.'s (Chesterfield formed in 1749 or so)

If you were driving, one Rt 295, you'd go east on Rt 10, and then up to the refuge. Varina, where some of the family land was, is across the river in Henrico Co.


Sunday, June 20, 2004 at 20:46:14 (PDT)
Troy Belcher
tbrooster@yahoo.com

Searching for Glenn D. Womack of Bowling Green, KY.

Troy Belcher
Frankfort, KY


Monday, June 21, 2004 at 09:49:11 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

This is off topic, but near as I can tell this is the way to get this message to the intended audience.
Someone who has both me and Sam in their address book seems to have a virus. It seems to have grabbed ahold of their address book and is using my address (among others probably) as a spoof to email everyone else. Now, I know my computer isn't infected, as I've checked it (more than once, in fact). Not only that, but it's using addresses I don' t have in my address book and it's using an account that literally cannot infect my computer because of how I set my accounts up. I know my account hasn't been invaded or had the password stolen because I've had yahoo check it. Since it's been going on for about a week now, so if someone has a weekly virus check, that didn't work. So, please if you get a strange less than 1K email from me probably with the subject of "hello" it' isn't me...delete it. Please check your computers with a virus checker, and please use virus filters on your mail.


Monday, June 21, 2004 at 09:53:13 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Bob
That webpage where you found Womacks in England is mine - I put it up a couple years ago -- Some of the data is from Roger and duplicates his, othre info is from Dave Maher (below), Jan Womack in the UK and others I hope I mentioned -- I am currently working on merging 4 GEDs I received from England in to one -- as usual good ole FTW cannot merge exact dupes worth a darn -- It currently has about 4050 surnames in it but will probably only have around 3500 or so when I am done with it -- then will merge it with the one I did previously from IGI and other records -- then do a surname/alpha list and post -- I am also working the heads of household (for now) on the censuses for UK - and am placing them in FTW form -- then will attempt to tie them in with earlier records -- anyone got the 1851 UK census?? I know it was on line once - but appears to have been removed --


Monday, June 21, 2004 at 22:17:58 (PDT)
Dave Maher
rhondaanddave@bigpond.com

Hi sam,
Have the 1851 census for Norfolk, Devon, and Warwick.
also complete 1881 for all of UK.
several other years are o n line, what are you looking for???
Dave


Tuesday, June 22, 2004 at 06:55:30 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Dave
I am going thru the censuses and making up a FTM file for GED purposes - I am currently working on heads of household for 1881 - have done 1871 - then when I know who to look for, alphabetically with no other surnames - will go back and peruse the images and get the families -- that is what I need to do for 1851 - but I need a web page so I can see the images, if one exists -- once these are done - may be able to track them on back further --


Thursday, June 24, 2004 at 21:00:29 (PDT)
Deborah C. (Bassett) Williams (Sissy)
debsweetbaby729@yahoo.com

I am looking for anyone related to Lois Bassett(Snookie) and William Shobe(Billie) from Sedalia, Missouri. My grandmother was Mildred C. Cooper(Walker). I am also looking for Charles Sephen Wright the author who wrote for Mercury House. Charles Walker was my greatgrandfather. I would love to learn anything about our family tree. I know my greatgrandmother was full blooded Cherokee. Clifford Bassett, I would like to hear from you because you are my Mother's husband.


Friday, June 25, 2004 at 18:59:36 (PDT)
Royce W. Gibson
roycegibson@frontiernet.net

Obit for ALLEN H. WOMACK
I came across this information in the Fort Smith, Ark public library and thought I'd share it in case it helps anyone. This turns out not to be a direct relative of mine.
This was from a 1930 (late in the year) newpaper clipping.

"Funeral service for Allen H. Womack, 50 year old, who died at a Muskogee, Okla., hospital early Friday was conducted at 3 o'clock Saturday afternooon at the Putman Funeral home, with Rev. C. P. Karriker, pastor of the United Lutheran church, officiating.
The body of Mr. Womack arrived in Fort Smith at 10 o'clock Friday night from Muskogee and was removed to the Putman Funeral home. The body was accompanied by Mr. Womack's wife, Mr.s Ollie Womakc and his son Earl Womack.
The death of Mr. Womack was the result of an infected foot. He dropped a heavy iron on his foot in January, while working at the Midland Valley railway office."

At the time of the 1930 census Allen is living with his wife, mother, sisters, a brother in law and two nephews in Oklahoma City. And in 1920 they are in the Sebastian County Ark. census.


Friday, June 25, 2004 at 21:41:53 (PDT)
Myra McAllister
myramc@aol.com

I am looking for information on my GGGrandmother SARAH C. WOMACK born about 1834, in I think Mississippi. She married SAMUEL SOUTHERN, Jan. 31, 1849, in Bienville Parish, La. The children that I know are Samuel L. Southern, Jim Southern and Zowie Southern. In the 1850 Bienville Parish Census Sarah and Samuel are listed, she is only 16. On Samuel L.'s death certificate, her name is given as Sallie Womack. In the 1880 census it is Sarah W. and they are in Winn Parish. If anyone has any information that they could share I would really appreciate it.


Saturday, June 26, 2004 at 04:40:27 (PDT)
bob
bob@yahoo.com

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Saturday, June 26, 2004 at 07:47:13 (PDT)
Rita Ellis
elli1409@bellsouth.net

Joseph Alexander Womack, b. Aug 20 1839 in Kentucky, d. Dec 26 1901 in Butler County, Missouri. On May 11 1857 in Christian County, Kentucky, he married Mary Ann Melinda Grogan daughter of William Grogan and Mary Ann Crook. There is some evidence placing Joseph Alexander Womack as the son of G W Chapman Womack (son of Abner Womack and Agnes Reed) and Nancy B Moore. I am looking for a better link. Does anyone know when and where Chapman Womack died. The last record I have of Chapman and Nancy is the 1860 census of Bates County, Missouri. In 1863, all rural residents of Bates County, Missouri, loyal to the south were forced to vacate their farms. Apparently 80% of the population left. On the 1870 census, Joseph and family were living in Bates County, Missouri. Thanks for any help.


Saturday, June 26, 2004 at 11:30:21 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

This DNA stuff is scary - someone of my line has a Urasian son somewhere!!
Exact match at that!! - I also matched with someone in Oregon USA - wonder who that could be?


Saturday, June 26, 2004 at 14:14:16 (PDT)
Jack Womack
jackwomack@grandecpm.net

Sam,
I had someone that e mailed me and he had an exact match with my DNA but not with a Womack surname, After several exchanges the fact that his father was adopted came out. This person does not have the name of his fathers father and no record has been found so far. He has some important info,the surname of the mother but not the father. This occured in Utah in the early 1900s and the state dosen't have any record nor does LDS. With his permission I have passed the info he sent me on to Robert Burke because he has privy to the lineages of the testees. We are positive his grandfather was a Womack who gave the baby up for adoption. Searching the census for the area in that time frame as revealed a few Womacks on record in the county. The problem is that I do not have access to all the census records for Utah. His DNA and mine would lead us back to Abraham b. 1644, father of Thomas Sr. and so on. Of course the closest common relative could be anywhere. The said birth of the adopted baby took place in 1916 in Bountiful, Davis county Utah. Anyone having any records on the Holbrook Maternity Home in Bountiful or records of Womacks in that area please relay them to me. We are of the mind that the father was a Mormon and may have met the mother outside the state possibly ID or some other county nearby.
I have had others with my DNA that turned out to be adoptions or nonparental matches, one turned out to be the grandson of a G Granduncle (If you could call him that). The one with the match did not have the Womack surname but had a Womack in his linage.
Now for Sam's Urasian match, sometimes test are not all made using the same standards and have to be converted to the new standards, thus older test may be off by the factor of one in some markers and maybe more than one. Y-Base and others are fast adopting a common standard to be compatable.
Jack


Sunday, June 27, 2004 at 07:15:07 (PDT)
Myra McAllister
myramc@aol.com

An update on my message about SARAH C. WOMACK and SAMUEL SOUTHERN. Some of the older relatives said that she had a brother named RILEY or WILEY WOMACK. Would appreciate any help that anyone can give. Thanks, Myra


Sunday, June 27, 2004 at 07:27:44 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com

Jack/Robert
Found a link to the family historian for the Holbrook Family of Bountiful -
sent mail with you two as bcc. Who knows, mebbe we get lucky??

And yes there were some Womack's in that area - just cant seem to find them in my data base at the moment -- I remmeber one Womack who died here in AZ that was sent there for burial - mebbe I can find that death cert again as I have them all that are over 50 years old and available - I also have all AZ birth records on Womacks that are 76 years old or older and that exist -


Sunday, June 27, 2004 at 15:02:19 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Myra, if I had to take a flying guess, I'd look at the family of Robert and Rachel Wizropa Southern Womack. They were in Bienville Parish in 1850, and Rachel's maiden name was Southern. They had a son named Wiley. Now, the thing is, I don't have a Sarah listed for that family, which doesn't mean much. Go to
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~markie/
and email Markie Owen and see if she can help you. She's got a note there on that family HAVING a Sarah C Womack but possibly this being the same as the youngest girl. Anyway, email Markie and see if between you you might have more info that each alone. Ann


Sunday, June 27, 2004 at 17:11:43 (PDT)
Judy Fillerup
colmall@msn.com

I m interested in finding information on Alellujah (Allie) R, Womack, daughter of Sherwood Womack. She was b. 1817 and married about 1835 in Georgia to Dr. Nathaniel Newton Smith. She died 7 Nov. 1842 in Troup, Georgia.

Their daughter, Nancy Ann Smith b. 1837 in LaGrange, Troup, GA was my great-grandmother.

I would love to have more information on Allie and her daughter, Nancy Ann and her other children.


Sunday, June 27, 2004 at 17:12:17 (PDT)
Judy Fillerup
colmall@msn.com

I m interested in finding information on Alellujah (Allie) R, Womack, daughter of Sherwood Womack. She was b. 1817 and married about 1835 in Georgia to Dr. Nathaniel Newton Smith. She died 7 Nov. 1842 in Troup, Georgia.

Their daughter, Nancy Ann Smith b. 1837 in LaGrange, Troup, GA was my great-grandmother.

I would love to have more information on Allie and her daughter, Nancy Ann and her other children.

Thank you,
Judy


Tuesday, June 29, 2004 at 11:42:03 (PDT)
Keith Arsenault
keith.arsenault@avalonpub.com

Searching for a Norman Womack, DOB/POB, though must be around 1940's or so. I do know his family was based for a time in his early childhood in San Diego, CA. He lived in Providence, RI off and on in the late 1960's, and was a musician (he played french horn). If you have any information as to his whereabouts, feel free to contact me.

Thank you.
Keith Arsenault


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