Born: Abt. 1828 Place:
Other records show born about 1810 in TN and if first child,
Joseph born abt 1839, quite an accomplishment methinks for an
approximate 11 and 7 year old couple??
Father: ?
Mother: ?
Wife's Name
Sallie WATSON
Born: Abt. 1832 Place:
Father: ?
Mother: ?
---------------------
Tacy Elizabeth WOMACK
Born: 10 Feb 1854 Place: Nr Chattanooga, Hamilton, Tn
Died: 28 Mar 1929 Place: Nr Scranton, Logan, Ar
Buried: 29 Mar 1929 Place: Ellsworth Cemetery, , Logan Co., Ar
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Timothy Thomas HARRIS
Marriage: 2 Dec 1875
Patterson Bluff, Logan, Ar
Born: 27 Apr 1854 Place: Plumerville, Conway, Ar
Died: 14 Nov 1952 Place: Kinta, Haskell, Ok
Buried: Place: Ellsworth Cemetery, , Logan Co., Ar
Married: 2 Dec 1875 Place: Patterson Bluff, Logan, Ar
Father: Elisha Cannon HARRIS
Mother: Sarah Jane WILLIAMS
---------------------
Me gut feeling is that this fits in with this line:
1 Alexander Womack
...+Martha
...2 David Womack 1765
.....+Elizabeth
.....3 Elisha H Womack 1789
.......+Mary
.....3 David Womack 1790 (do not have children)
.......+Elizabeth
.....3 Michael Womack 1794 (do not have children)
......+Sarah Jones 1795
.....3 Hawkins Womack 1800
.......+Jane Jenny Cooper 1800
Do remember the Watsons and Womacks go way back - see Cherry Grove. Also,
Michael and Sarah had a daughter named Tacey who married Andrew Jackson Hale.
This is somewhere in the ball park, mebbe left field right now, but???
Sunday, May 09, 2004 at 13:35:28 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@netzero.com
Oops, do have children on Michael dont on the others
solly cholly --
Sunday, May 09, 2004 at 21:06:30 (PDT)
Robert Burke
robertburke@juno.com
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~reburke/lines/data/womack/index3.html
Beth:
I can identify Jacob Womack and David Womack in the 1840 Census of Fayette Co,
TN.
Jacob was Jacob Pryor Womack (Jacob Pryor > John > Richard > Richard
> Richard > William?). In 1830 he had been in Orange Co, NC. In 1850, he
was in Harrison Co, TX. See http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/o/m/Glenn-D-Womack-KY/FILE/0006page.html?Welcome=1084160275
and search for "Jacob Pryor Womack". According to this info, he lived
in DeSoto Co, MS, which is just south of Fayette Co, TN. I think he lived near
the point where Fayette and Shelby Counties in TN and DeSoto Co, MS all come
together. Some of Jacob's kids married in Shelby Co, TN.
David was from a different line altogether. He was the son of Carter Womack
(David > Carter > Thomas > William > John > William?). He came
from Halifax Co, NC. In 1850, David was in Marshall Co, MS. See http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ml_clarkwilliams&id=I149
which has documentation that David was in Carroll Co, TN and later Fayette Co,
TN before moving to MS.
I do not think either was closely related to Newton C Womack who was in Fayette
Co, TN in 1850 and 1860 (1850 has him born in TN and 1860 in NC). The following
is a marriage record from Lawrence Co, TN: Lovve, Martin A to Forest, Francis
(sic) M, 2 Aug 1837, Newton C Womack bondsman. This may be the same Newton. I do
not know of any other records which connect Newton to Lawrence Co, TN. Later,
two Womack boys married two Kilburn girls in Lawrence Co, TN.
West Tennessee and North Mississipp were criss-crossed by several distinct
Womack families, and they sometimes lived in the same counties at the same time
(though usually in different parts of the county). This makes it harder to prove
relationships by proximity.
In the 1870 Census, Sally (Watson) Womack, widow of Newton, was in Johnson Co,
AR (p.9). Part of Johnson Co later became Logan Co, AR.
Monday, May 10, 2004 at 15:32:25 (PDT)
Connie Baumann
Littletn@aol.com
Curtis,
I have information on Comilla (Millie)Womack, daughter of Abner born in
Butler or Logan Co KY abt 1802, md to Peter Donnelson Solomon. She and husband
burried in Forsyth Cemetery, north of Marshal, IL, just west of Rt 1. I have
seen the headstones. I will provide informal history of her children, with focus
on those who moved to Moultrie County,IL, then later to Frankilin Co, KS. Her
oldest Son John Solomon was my g grandfather.
Looking for desc. of Verna Elvie (called Dick) Crawford, born 1888 Obion
County, Tenn, son of William T. & Frances A. Mathis-Crawford. Moved to Mo.
after 1926, first wife Maude, second wife ? / had several children 3 of them
were; John Henry, J.Hugh, 7 Laverne Crawford. Needed to complete family. Thanks,
Betty
i had postings about my daughter brandy marie pruitt who was born june 13 in
atlanta ga. and died 11-23-1981 in lee county alabama. i got a copy of her birth
certificate and her fathers name steve hinnant was not on theire. th death
certificate has lisa marie hinnant. that was the name he wanted her to give
her.also they put she was born may 13 1981.how could steve put that name on her
death-certificate if it is not legal. if i had not known that he wanted to name
her that i may not have found her death certificate. they had 3 causes of death.
i can only read one. menengities.i called dr.m richmond in alabama and they said
they do not have any medical records or autopsy reports from 1981. the coroners
office, funeral home, cemetery where she is buried said her doctor or hospital
should have her records. i need to kno what she died from. thank you.
I believe that Calloway County is in SW MO?? If not, correct me - however,
ther eis a book "Jesse James Was My Neighbor" written by a geneleman
that was about 12 years or so old whe Jesse was around -- He did interviews with
Frank after Frank was outta prison, Jesse's wife, Jesse Jr and others -- One
interesting part of that book is that he hid out with a family of Womacks for
almost a year - taught singing (We have heard how he liked hymns and etc) in
church -- story goes that when he was leaving, and he was sorta found out, some
of the Womack boys wanted to go with him - but he talked them out of it -- true
or false? Either makes an interesting story -- seems out MO Womacks were
colorful people!!
Sam,
When we sent Civil War era letter copies of Charles Womack mainly(b. 1 Mar
1836)to Harris Hill(Schley Co., GA)who later transcribed them on the internet,
He gave me a Womack lineage. I believe he acquired it from Roger Womack. It was
Charles, Jr, Charles, Abraham, Abraham, Abraham, Abraham, John and William. Will
someone please tell me if we are accurate. 1. Wm.Womack and Mary Jane Allen. 2.
John Womack and Mary Akin. 3. Abraham and Mary (?). 4. Abraham b. 1692 Henrico
Co. VA and d. 1747. 5. Abraham (b.abt. 1718)and Ann (?) or Sarah Worsham. 6.
Abraham and Judith Minter who parented Charles, Anna and William. 7. Charles and
Casandry Benton had a daughter Lucinda who married David Marion Phillips and
moved to LA in about 1859. Many of those Civil War era letters were sent by
Lucinda's brother Charles to her husband David M. Phillips. Help will be
appreciated.
Just thought I'd post that there is a Womack Family Reunion (along with
McInturfs and Hammonds) in Franklin County, Ark on June 5, 2004. These are
mostly decendents of Jordon Henry Womack and Mary Elizabeth Crenshaw.
TO: Robert Burke
HELLO ALL THERE IS GOING TO BE A WOMACK REUNION IN DUNCAN,OKLAHOMA STARTING
JULY 17TH WHICH IS THE 3RD WEKEND OF JULY.
Just a bit of trivia
On the Trivia post below - I asked Tim if it was his dad - and he said it
was, that it was shot around Sedona AZ and he got upset cause he didnt get to
meet
Womack reunion June 19,2004 in Gilmer Texas at the Yamboree Community Bldg.
These are descendants of Willis L. Womack and Annie S. Davis of Texas. All are
welcome.
Help with Valentine Papers - could one of you old hands at this help me with
how to read the references in the Valentine Papers? Hi, found a copy of an old photograph of a Mr. F.M. Womack in one of the old
binders that was handed down to me by one of my ancestors. I am not researching
F.M. Womack and know nothing about him or his 'line'. Just thought I'd pass the
word in case anyone from his line would like a copy of the photo. I'd be happy
to email it. I don't know why this photo was in one of my old Womack binders but
found it this morning. There's a note written below the photo on a page in the
binder near the photo which speaks of Tennessee and says "Last Confederate
meeting of Veterans" and says "east part of TN" and identifies in
the photo a Mr. Bell, Darnell, F.M. Womack, etc. I don't know where this photo
originated from. There are seven men in the picture. The old binder is one of
many that were handed down to me by my elderly kinfolk some years ago with
Womack history in them. Happy to help and email the photo to anyone who is from
the F.M. Womack line.
Tammy, my best guess is that the photo would be of Francis Marion Womack son
of Isham Rice Womack. He served in Co G of the 24th TN Regiment.
HELLO, IF ANYONE HAS INFO. ON A JOHNSON ASHLEY WOMACK I WOULD LIKE HIS
FATHER'S NAME WHOM I THINK IS JACOB WOMACK IF SO WHO IS JACOB'S FATHER?? I HAVE
RECEIVED STUFF IN THE MAIL FROM A DISTANT COUSIN WHOM HAS OVERWHELMED ME WITH
STUFF THAT PATRICIA (COX) JACKSON PUT TOGETHER.[GOD REST HER SOUL] AND IT WAS
DATED BACK TO THE 1600'S WHICH I HAVE MANAGED TO GO 200 YEARS FURTHER BACK WITH
BUT TRYING TO SEE WHERE MY LINE FITS. SHE IS A DISTANT COUSIN OF MINE ALSO. SO
IF ANY OF YALL CAN HELP IT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED. THESE ARE THE NAMES AS
FOLLOWS 1JACOB WOMACK M SARAH JOHNSON 2 JOHNSON ASHLEY WOMACK 3 DAVID WOMACK M
ELIZABETH BRISCO/BRISCOE 4 WILLIAM JEFFERSON WOMACK M MARRY NELSON ENSEY
Derrell,
ACTUALLY THE INFO. I POSTED WAS SENT TO ME BY ANOTHER DISTANT COUSIN NAMED
JANET. PATRICIA STATES SHE GOT HER INFO. FROM A PERSON NAMED CARLOS THIS STUFF
IS SUPPOSE TO BE FROM WEATHERFORD,TEXAS. I KNOW THERE IS A WOMACK CEMETARY
CALLED HUTCHINS CEMETARY AND ALSO OTHER CEMETARIES THAT ARE IN JACKSBORO,TEXAS
THAT HAVE ELIZABETH M BRISCO WOMACK LEDBETTER BURIED THERE AS WELL AS WILLIAM
JEFFERSON WOMACK. YES I HAVE TALKED WITH TAMMY AND EXCHANGED INFO. WITH HER. IN
ALL HONESTY I AM GOING TO TRY AND SAVE MONEY FOR A ROAD TRIP TO ALL THESE
PLACES. BASICALLY I AM IN THE RIGHT AREA FOR IT SINCE MOST OF MY WOMACK LINE IS
FROM TENNESSEE,ARKANSAS AND TEXAS AS WELL AS THE CAROLINAS I THINK. I AM DOING
SO MUCH AT ONCE I AM STILL TRYING TO FIND OTHER LINES I COME FROM. AND TO TOP IT
OFF I AM DOING MY WIFE'S LINE HAHAHAHA. SO MUCH FUN SO MANY SURNAMES. I THINK
HOWEVER THOMAS JEFFERSON WOMACK SERVED IN COMPANY B 131ST ILLINOIS
INFANTRY/LOCATION EITHER POPE COUNTY OR LAKE FORK. BY THE WAY WHAT GENEALOGY
SIGHT IS BETTER TO LOOK FOR STUFF?? ANCESTRY,GENEALOY.COM OR WHAT HAVING HARD
TIME WITH ANCESTRY SO MUCH VERIFYING TO DO BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PUTTING WRONG
STUFF ON THERE:( I WILL DO MY BEST TO FIND THOSE RECORDS THOUGH. DERRELL JR
HERE IS SOME STUFF I HAVE FOUNT BETH:) Derrell, January-March messages have been moved to the archives.
I am trying to find information about my great grandfather Earl Womack. He
was born 1888 in TN, possibly Bradley county. He married a woman named Mary
Woods, in TN around 1909. Mary was born around 1885 in TN also.Mary's parents
were named W.D Woods, and Fannie. Earl and Mary had 7 children Clarence (DOB
around 1909) Hazel, Chester(DOB 1913), Francis, Lorena, Russel, and Naomi. The
first five were born in TN. My grandfather Chester, was said to have been born
in Cleveland, TN in 1913. The family moved to LaPorte IN, around 1919. That is
where Earl and Mary are burried. There is also a family rumor that our name was
changed somewhere along the line, may have been Womac. It is also said we have
Cherokee blood also. Any information regarding Earl or Mary would be very
helpful.
Hi Beth,
(P.S.) After posting my message, I found a note written in one of my Womack
notebooks and it states: "Children of Johnson "Johnston" &
Elizabeth Womack......." and then below it is a note: "After the death
of Johnson, Elizabeth married James D. Ledbetter born 1812 TN. They had a
daughter Elizabeth b. 1850 Jack Co., TX who married John King."
I noticed a posting by Martha Womack Jan.9,1998 where she mentioned her
relationship(s) with Shephard L. Womack of Karnak, Illinois Born Jan.9,1848 Died
Jan.30,1945..Age 91...His was married to Sarah S. Boaz...A Drummer Boy at the
Battle of Shiloh...April 6,1862... His father was Wash Womack....This group of
Womacks were from the Hardin-Pulaski County areas of SouthEastern
Illinois......Can anyone give Shephard's decendent's names other than-Anna, and
J.L.Womack?? also, Can anyone find any record of his father's (Wash)history???????/Note:
Martha's web address is no longer valid......Need an up-date
TAMMY COULD YOU GIVE COPIES OF THOSE BRISCO/BRISCOES YOU HAVE AS WELL AS THE
HUTCHINS I HAVE BEN TALKING TO MY COUSIN FROM THE WOMACK LINE HER NAME IS JANET
SHE IS KIN TO THE HUTCHINS.
THIS IS A LETTER BY FRANCIS MARION WOMACK IF NOONE HAS SEEN IT.
I SEEM TO BE GETTING NO HELP ON HERE SO ENJOY YALLS RUN TO FIND THE WOMACK
LINE YALL DESCEND FROM I AM GOING ON MY OWN BECAUSE EVERYONE IS TIENG EVERY
WOMACK LINE TOGETHER AND THERE IS A CHANCE OTHER LINES ARE NOT A PART OF WILLIAM
OF THE 1600S SO I WILL DO MY OWN SEACHING SO I DON'T GET OFF THE LINE I AM FROM.
I GUESS IF YOUR LAST NAME ISN'T WOMACK NO ONE WANTS TO HELP. I AM NOT DOING MY
SEACH FOR BRAGGING RIGHTS I AM DOING IT TO LEARN THE HISTORY OF MY FAMILY. I
LOVE DOING GENEALOGY AND ENJOY THE HISTORY WITH THE PEOPLE AND NAMES I WILL FIND
THE EXACT LINE DAVID IS FROM AND WHEN I DO I WILL PUT IT AWAY FOR ONLY THOSE WHO
ARE WILLING TO SHARE COMPLETE INFO. WITH ME WILL SEE. I DO KNOW FOR A FACT A
COUPLE OF PEOPLE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN WHERE THEY ARE ON THEIR WOMACK LINE IF I
DIDN'T TELL THEM WILLIAM JEFFERSON AND THOMAS JEFFERSON WERE BROTHERS. BUT NO
BOTHER TO ME I LIVE BY THE PLACES THESE WOMACKS HAVE LIVED AND DIED. GOOD LUCK
ON YALLS JOURNEY.
Three things - I had posted a message earlier about a family reunion - please
note my new email address. Derrell
Derrell, I have found when someone has something they are pretty good about
sharing. You happen to be on a line that Beth is working and she has more than
anyone. In Carlos Womack Tome he said "Settled on land inherited from his
father John Womack and Hannah Headworth in Prince George, County, Virginia.
Travis was present Oct. 7, 1792 during the account of the estate of his father.
Yes and I'll be working on it now too. Trying to figure out or 'proove' who
Thomas J. Womack's dad was. I have seen several submissions of information
stating who Thomas J. Womack's dad was but I have never seen proof or the
sources of where these submitted bits of info. came from. And perhaps we will
never have proof of it? I honestly don't know.
Well, I think I answered part of my own question thanks to Roger's web site.
Tammy and Derrell,
Hi Beth,
Beth, I'm sorry, I didn't answer all of your questions. No, I don't have a
marriage date for Nancy and James S. I've never done any research on them
either. I only have Nancy's birthdate. Which if one didn't, they could get that
from the Collin County, TX census record. Also, I have never seen Pat Jackson's
research or files. I'm sure it would be very interesting to read though. I did
look in our 1981 Boatman Family Book and there is no date of marriage for James
S. Boatman and wife Nancy Womack. I didn't think there was, but I looked again
to be sure. And I guess I had a moment of being brain-dead while ago when I
posted that message because I said that Nancy Womack was Eliza Jane Womack's
sister, when I knew full well that Nancy was Eliza Jane's Aunt; not sister. We
know that Nancy was born ca 1840. So she was just a few years older than her
husband James S. Boatman. Eliza Jane Womack was born 1866 in Parker County, TX.
She and Richard Gayno are buried in New Mexico.
NO BETH JANET DIDN'T SEND THE TAXES OR ANY OTHER COPIES BUT WHAT PAT GOT OFF
OF CARLOS'S RESEARCH.
You know we all do a lot of supposin' in genealogy - so heres another one:
OOOOOKKK
I am looking for,information on my great-great-great gandmother she was a
full,blood Indian . her name was Patsy Holloway.
I am the Great grand daughter of Butler Bean in Jasper, Texas-who was born in
South Carolina. I am trying to locate his parents and also if he have other
sibllings. Their names.Butler Bean had a son also name Butler Bean Jr who
Gee Whiz!!
Hi Sam! I was tempted to joke that your other DNA test was obviously for your
alternate personality, but then I figured only you would find it amusing!
Anyway, I was thinking about your post.
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 18:57:27 (PDT) We do need more people in the lines to sort this DNA thing out. I believe my
line comes from Abraham' his son Thomas and Mary Farley. Sam you come down
Richards line and we have the same markers. I still think the question is in the
line of Thomas' son Abraham who had the affair with Blanton. Just a guess at
this point as we just don't have enough input from the different lines. However,
I may be in Richards line but most of my family says it's Thomas, I just haven't
found the proof either way.
For info on the Womack families of Southwest Missouri, I would suggest
contacting IvaLou Womack. Her e-mail address is
Connie Baumann
Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 09:02:32 (PDT)
Patrick Noel Freesh
freeshpn@aol.com
Noel
Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 22:28:17 (PDT)
Betty
gemini4@charter.net
Friday, May 14, 2004 at 05:27:16 (PDT)
melody pruitt.married is smith.
mello41us@yahoo.com
Friday, May 14, 2004 at 15:24:07 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@netzero.com
Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 14:27:34 (PDT)
Robert Burke
robertburke@juno.com
Callaway Co, MO is about in the center of the state. See http://www.segenealogy.com/
for great maps of the southern states, including county formation maps. I use
this site almost every day.
Monday, May 17, 2004 at 05:28:51 (PDT)
Ruth Gray
Grayruth@aol.com
Monday, May 17, 2004 at 11:37:04 (PDT)
Royce Gibson
roycegibson@msn.com
Sorry, if I'm putting this in the wrong place.
If you are interested, email me for more details.
Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:39:38 (PDT)
Thomas Knight
tpknight@earthlink.net
RE: Sarah Womack
Robert, after getting a very good image of my Sarah Womack in the 1850
Tallapoosa AL census and enlarging the page, then studying the individual
characters I am not so sure about Sarah's last name anymore. It looks like
Worrick to me but I sure wouldn't bet the farm on it. So I stand corrected about
the Womack surname. I understand how it could appear to be any one of several:
Warnick, Wonnick, Worick, Wormick, and Worrick all of which appear in the census
indexes.
It puts me back to square one on Sarah but could explain why my Sarah Womack has
been so hard to find and why I got no response to my posts. Thanks!
Tom Knight
Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 23:30:19 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net
Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 07:03:32 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com
Bus Stop:
Cast List
Himself Andy Womack ...Clown
Remember Bus Stop had a Rodeo in it..
Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 09:35:34 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com
Marilyn...Incidentally, Andy was inducted into the Professional Rodeo Cowboy
Association's Hall of Fame --
Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 18:06:18 (PDT)
Betty Phea
phea44@hotmail.com
Friday, May 21, 2004 at 03:20:46 (PDT)
Royce Gibson
roycegibson@msn.com
I take it that most of what is online are abstracts from another source. How do
I tell the source and what pages he is referencing? The Martinsburg, WV library
has a copy of Clayton Torrences other work "Virginia Wills and
Administrations" - has anyone found this useful?
Also, has anyone put together a map that shows how the Womack lands were bought
and sold over the years?
Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 07:28:52 (PDT)
Tammy B. Young
willys41.1@juno.com
Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 13:37:15 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
Not my line, but that might help narrow it down. Ann
Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 20:46:01 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net
Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 06:34:55 (PDT)
Beth Howser
bhowser@alltel.net
Based on the numbering you posted (1JACOB WOMACK M SARAH JOHNSON 2 JOHNSON
ASHLEY WOMACK 3 DAVID WOMACK M ELIZABETH BRISCO/BRISCOE 4 WILLIAM JEFFERSON
WOMACK M MARRY NELSON ENSEY), Patricia Cox Jackson didn't go back further than
Jacob Womack, did she? In her data, Patricia has census and tax lists for Jacob
and Johnson. Can you find those records in her data? The census years and names
of counties and states are critical. If you can find that data, you can define
the Womack line further back. Please tell us how Patricia got back to the 1600s
if she didn't document Jacob Womack's father. Is there anything in her work
regarding Jacob's military service or about his father?
Also did Patricia have data on her Cox line? I can get back to Joseph Cox and
wife, Martha Insley (1880 Census Republican, Clay Co., KS) on that line, but
I've wondered if she also traced the Cox line back to Washington Co., TN and the
Watauga Cox (Cocke) family since she submitted the family group sheet of
Johnston (David) Womack and the RW pension app of Johnson Womack (Wamuck) to
WAGS in Washington Co., TN. I've found no relationship with Martha Insley and
the Ensey/Ensley girls the Womacks married. Patricia thought that Elizabeth
Brisco married Johnson Womack, b. 1762 and not David, b. in late 1700s or early
1800s, indicating a great age difference in the couple. I can only see 10 or 11
years between David and Elizabeth.
On the 1840 Richland Twp., Madison Co., AR shows David to be under 40. Johnson
is not on the 1840 AR census, and it is not known when Johnson died. His second
RW pension app is dated 1837. After David died, ca. 1845, Elizabeth Brisco
Womack took her children to Collin Co., TX where she married James Ledbetter 18
Oct 1847. The Womack children are found with the Ledbetters on the 1850 Collin
Co., TX census, roll 910, page 13A, house 173.
You and Tammy B. Young (the lady who posted about F. M. Womack below) descend
from the same family. Tammy descends from William Jefferson Womack's brother,
Thomas Jefferson Womack (1850 census shows his name is Thomas G.). Both were
sons of David and Elizabeth Brisco Womack. Thomas's daughter married a Boatman.
William served in the CW in the 19th Texas Calvary, Co. F., but I can't find any
military service for Thomas. I'm curious to know if there are other names on the
back of Tammy's photo.
Derrell, let us know what you find on the census and tax records.
Beth
Monday, May 24, 2004 at 00:51:20 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net
Monday, May 24, 2004 at 01:30:15 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net
1810 United States Federal Census has 1 match for:
Jacob Womack
« List of Matches
Personal Information Census Image
Name: Womack, Jacob
Township: Hillsborough
County: Orange
State: North Carolina
Year: 1810
Roll: M252_41
Page: 786
Image: 224
1790 United States Federal Census has 1 match for:
Jacob Womack
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The 1790 census was the first ever U.S. census; it has links to images of the
original surviving population schedules. More information below
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Personal Information Census Image
Name: Jacob Womack
Township: Not Stated
County: Pendleton
State: SC
Year: 1790
Roll: M637_11
Page: 83
Image: 0019
TRYON COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA MINUTES OF THE COURT OF PLEAS AND QUARTER SESSIONS
1769-1779
July term 1770
A Deed of Sale from Alex'r Kilpatrick to Jacob Womack Dated the 10th day of
Septem'r 1768 for 300 acres of Land proved by Thos. Stuart Evidence thereto.
ordered to be Reg'd.
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TRYON COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA MINUTES OF THE COURT OF PLEAS AND QUARTER SESSIONS
1769-1779
January term 1771
A Deed of Sale from Jacob Womack to James Capshaw Dated the 17th of Aug't 1770
for 300 acres of Land proved by Wm. Capshaw Evidence thereto. Ord'd to be
Registered.
Pierce'S Register
[p.313] VOUCHERS
page 363
Militia Johnson Womack 4069 Morgan Dist
Burleson Family Association Bulletin Name Index
Name: Johnson Womack
ID: 49418
Volume: V
Number: 2
Page: 524
Arkansas Land Records has 1 match for:
Johnson Womack
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Arkansas Pre-1908 Homestead and Cash Entry Patent and Cadastral Survey Plat
Index More information below
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Personal Information
Name: JOHNSON WOMACK
Land Office: LITTLE ROCK
Document Number: 154
Total Acres: 318.42
Misc. Doc. Nr.: 11
Signature: Yes
Canceled Document: No
Issue Date: March 27, 1834
Mineral Rights Reserved: No
Metes and Bounds: No
Statutory Reference: 10 Stat. 308
Multiple Warantee Names: No
Act or Treaty: July 22, 1854
Multiple Patentee Names: No
Entry Classification: Public Land Donation
Arkansas Census, 1819-70 has 1 match for:
Johnson Womack
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U.S. Federal Census indexes (and other related census indexes) for Arkansas from
1819 to 1870 More information below
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Personal Information
Name: JOHNSON WOMACK
State: AR
County: Lawrence County
Township: Arkansas Territory
Year: 1831
Record Type: Tax list
Page: 018
Database: AR 1830-1839 Tax Lists Index
1830 United States Federal Census has 6 matches for:
David Womack
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ancestors, and more. This database has links to images of the original surviving
population schedules. More information below
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Personal Information Census Image
Name: Womack, David
Township: Unknown Townships
County: Lawrence
State: Arkansas
Year: 1830
Roll: M19_5
Page: 2
Image: 5
1840 United States Federal Census has 4 matches for:
David Womack
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population schedules. More information below
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Personal Information Census Image
Name: Womack, David
Township: White River
County: Marion
State: Arkansas
Year: 1840
Roll: M704_19
Page: 50
Image: 99
1840 United States Federal Census has 4 matches for:
David Womack
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Name: Womack, David
Township: White River
County: Marion
State: Arkansas
Year: 1841
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DERRELL JR
Monday, May 24, 2004 at 12:12:42 (PDT)
Beth Howser
bhowser@alltel.net
Did you find any of your information in Patricia's work?
The David Womack of Marion Co., AR is the son-in-law of Abraham Wood. I haven't
found his parents yet, but he did live on land in Bedford Co., TN in the early
1800's prior to coming to Arkansas.
Jacob Womack Pendleton Co., SC.......on Johnson's RW pension app he stated he
had liven in Pendleton Co., SC after the war.
Johnson Womack's Arkansas 1834 land record.....this is in Chicot Co., AR. I
haven't figured this one out yet, but Johnson was in Lovely Co., AR, which later
became Washington Co: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wjhonson/FranklinARK/LovelyCo_Emigrants.htm
"Several hundred people had made the Lovely Purchase their home, when on 16
Oct 1827 the Arkansas General Assembly, without governmental consent, created
Lovely County and placed its seat of government at Nicksville, a few miles above
the mouth of Sallisaw Creek in present Sequoyah County, Oklahoma. The Cherokees
negotiated and entered a treaty 6 May 1828 whereby they exchanged their lands in
Arkansas for seven million acres west of the Arkansas boundary, which was fixed
by this treaty at its present location. Among other things, the government
agreed to remove all white settlers. Congress passed an act 24 May 1828
providing two quarter sections of land for each head of family, widow or single
man over twenty-one who had been displaced by the Treaty of 1828."
Among those families listed are:
WOMACK, JOHN AR Chicot 10/15/1833 Little Rock
WOMACK, JOHNSON AR Chicot 3/27/1834 Little Rock
WOMACK, LARKIN AR Sebastian 11/15/1830 Batesville
WOMACK, PLEASANT AR Desha 1/14/1850 Helena
WOMMACK, WILLIAM AR Jefferson 10/16/1838 Little Rock
From Robert Burke's web page:
"See Early Tax lists at the Tennessee State Archives. White males had to
start paying a poll tax from the age of 21, but I am not sure at what age they
were excused from the poll tax. The TN Archives site says age 50, but I am not
certain that was the case in some of the earlier lists. Major Jacob Womack was
probably in Grainger Co, TN in 1799, but he was old enough to not have to pay
the poll tax. Likewise, William Womack (1753-1820) was probably in Franklin Co,
TN or Warren Co, TN in 1812, but not listed because he was too old.
Jackson Co, TN was adjacent to White Co, TN until 1842 when Putnam Co, TN was
formed. David and Johnston Womack apparently moved from Grainger Co, TN to
Jackson Co, TN, and thence to White Co, TN. By 1816, they had moved to Lawrence
Co, AR (which was then part of Missouri Territory).
See the Izard Co, AR Couch GenWeb site. There is a link for the 1816 Tax list of
Lawrence Co, MO Territory (AR Territory was formed from MO Territory in 1819).
Note the following Womacks in Lawrence Co in 1816: David, Jesse, John, John
(second listing), Johnson. Note that they were NOT there in the 1815 tax list.
Believe they lived in the part of Lawrence which became Randolph Co, AR.
From White Co, TN court records (WPA transacription at TN State Archives) - 16
Nov 1809 - Johnston Wamick was a juror
From Grainger Co, TN court records 1796 - 1802 (WPA transacription at TN State
Archives) - several mentions of Jacob and David Womack. In one court record,
Jacob referred to as Major Jacob Womack. In another court record, Jacob and
David listed together as part of a jury to lay off a road."
Derrell, let's go back to White Co., TN. The Burleson Family Association
reference to Johnson Womack is probably the record Robert Burke annoted above
about Johnson being a juror. Most of the people listed in the Burleson Family
Association's Vol. 2, Page 524 were also in White Co., TN. However, I think
there's another connection to Johnson in this county. Samuel Weaver's son,
Elijah David Womack, married in White Co., TN, a Fanny Womack, b. ca. 1780.
Fanny's father was supposed to be "a" Larkin Womack. It couldn't be my
Larkin because he was born in 1785. But she could be my Larkin's sister. Samuel
Weaver was with Johnson prior to White Co.:
"List of Insolvents Living within the Indian Boundary for the Year 1797
(Which the County Court of Grainger Released the Sheriff from Collecting)
Derrell, see Robert's reference to Jacob being in Grainger Co.
Note from Beth: "Insolvent" has the connotation of not owning land
Weaver, John
Weaver, Joseph
Weaver, Samuel
Weaver, Samuel
Womack, David
Womack, Jeremiah
Womack, Jonathan (Johnson?)
Beth
Tuesday, May 25, 2004 at 10:42:20 (PDT)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com
Tuesday, May 25, 2004 at 11:03:15 (PDT)
Andrea Phillips
andrea_womack@hotmail.com
Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 08:00:35 (PDT)
Tammy B. Young
willys41.1@juno.com
Yes, isn't this Genealogy fun! I'm ashamed to say that I haven't spent a lot of
time researching my ancestor (g g g grandpa) Thomas Jefferson Womack, nor his
brother William J. Womack. But with all of the notebooks, files, etc. etc. that
have been handed down to me by my elderly Womack kinfolk, I really haven't spent
that much time on the research. It's not in question about Eliz. Briscoe being
the mother of my Thomas J. Womack. I have many old letters of correspondence
that were written by my Womacks. Most of the letters having been written in the
1800s. I have many photos and many copies of original receipts; dating from the
1700s to the early 1800s. Receipts of 'Paid in full's, tax receipts, vouchers,
etc. signed by Johnson Womack, Jacob Womack, Elizabeth Ledbetter, J.D.
Ledbetter, David Womack,etc. Some of the receipts and vouchers name 'Johnson'
spelled as 'Johnston' but most have it spelled as 'Johnson'. I can take no
credit for the research done on my Womack line since most was given to me. My
Thomas Jefferson Womack's mother Elizabeth did remarry to James Ledbetter and
I'dseen the Census in Collin Co. of their household, with Thomas and brother
William there. In some of the old letters of correspondence, Thomas Jefferson
Womack and his sons are writing to my great great grandma Eliza Jane
Womack-Boatman and make mention of 'Uncle John King'. He was called 'Uncle John
King' by Thomas J. and wife Eliza Jane ENSEY-Womack's sons. And for instance, in
one of the copies of an original receipt the receipt states that #$7.00 was
received of David Womack, the balance of a Judgment James Taylor received for
cost against Johnston Womack; except fifty-nine cents. Oct 31st 1811. Clk George
W. Gibbs. And on another 'receipt' it states: "I did pay in full Johnson
Womack for two notes given to John Fleming by JohnsonWammock and the other boy
Jacob Wammack the one note for twelve pound and the other for ten pounds for
which I have received full satisfaction. March 17, 1803; I say Recevd by me
Samuel Thomas; Wit: William Bussel; Solomon George" I am familiar with the
Hutchins name as I have old photos of my Hutchins kinfolk, for they married to
my Womacks. Don't know if my Hutchins kinfolk are those that you mentioned or
not? Have also some old photos of my Briscoe kinfolk. I realize I am blessed to
have all of these 'treasures' that were handed down to me so again, I take no
credit. If I can help in any way in your research, please let me know. I have so
many Womack files and notebooks here that I do need a bigger office! One of my
elderly Womack kinfolk had been a professional genealogist, some years ago. I
have much of her 45 years of Womack research. Yes Eliza Jane Womack, daug. of
Thomas J. and Eliza J. Ensey-Womack, married my great great grandpa Richard
Gayno Boatman. Many of her letters to her mother, and letters from her dad and
mother to her, I have. I'm thankful for them. Richard Gayno was a son of Richard
Howell Boatman, born 1813 in Grainger Co. TN and I have some old letters written
by him as well. He was writing to Richard Gayno and Eliza Jane, and mentions in
a few of his letters, the goings on of Thomas J. Womack and family. I have sent
Derrell some info. that he can add to his ancestor William J. Womack's files and
research as well as some photos of his kinfolk. I've enjoyed corresponding with
him and 'meeting' him, very much. I do have the Valentine papers, Carlos's book,
etc. etc. etc. and I find it all very interesting too. Some of the old photos I
have of my Hutchins kinfolk are not in great shape but a few still are. One in
particular, with S. Womack sitting next to Mr. Hutchins is in fairly decent
condition.
Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 08:15:42 (PDT)
Tammy B. Young
willys41.1@juno.com
I see in my files that there are letters of correspondence to my Womack cousin
from Carlos. I haven't had time to read all of these notebooks handed down to
me. I found this letter while ago as I was looking for those photos of the
Hutchins and Briscoes taken with my Womack kinfolk, 'way back when.'
Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 09:32:12 (PDT)
john white
john11933@sbcglobal.net
Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 13:57:15 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net
Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 13:59:36 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net
GENEALOGICAL, BIOGRAPHICAL AND HISTORICAL FACTS AND SKETCHES OF THE WRITER'S
FAMILY.
By F. M. Womack
The writer has often thought that he would leave with his children some facts
and accounts regarding our family connection.
The writer has often regretted that he did not obtain from his father during his
lifetime something of this kind which would have enabled him to have given more
facts than he will be able to give without them, but so far as I may attempt to
go " I will try to render unto Caesar the things that belong to
Caesar."
To begin - My grandfather's name was William Womack, was born in North Carolina.
My grandmother Womack was born in N. Carolina, her name was Lucy Womack and
distantly related to Grandfather Womack.
My father's name was Isham Rice Womack, was of Irish descent, was born on Little
Pedee River in North Carolina on the 29 day of Sept. 1789, died the 25th day of
May 1869. Aged 79 yrs. 7m. 26ds.
My mothers name before marriage was Mary Ann Steward and was of Scotch descent
and was born on Great Pedee River in the state of South Carolina on the 22 day
of May 1791, died June 18th 1880. Aged 88y. 21m. 26ds.
Father and mother were married in South Carolina on the 5th day of Aug. 1810.
They moved to this county ( Coffee county, Tennessee ) which was then a portion
of Franklin county at that time, in the Autumn of the same year they were
married, and settled near the base of the Cumberland Mountain above J.T. Crocker
(?) farm, now in the 11th Civil District of Coffee County, Tenn. They moved from
the Carolinas to Tenn. on a pack horse ( a little Grey Mare. ) When they settled
down to house keeping they had what they packed on the little grey mare to this
state and one dollar in money. My father told me he took the dollar, all the
money he had and bought salt with it. He had hired himself out to make rails and
for the making of rails he received in compensation one Pork hog - hence you see
the necessity for the salt. In moving to this County my father and mother would
camp out at nights. They were four weeks on the road. There were other imigrants
came across with them. My father and mother lived first in this neighborhood
five years. They lived a portion of the time during the five years where F.M.
Taylor now live. My father cleared some of the lands of Taylor's, He and mother
were the first settlers in the neighborhood of the Taylor Spring. Then moved to
Swedens Cove now Marion County, Tenn., lived there about four years, bought a
piece of land where Louis Pain now resides, if living, and his house stood
within about 60 yards of where the Louis Pain residence now stands. Father and
mother told me their reason for leaving Swedens Cove was that Cove was pretty
much filled up with relatives and that they were intermarrying among each other.
There were many of the Beans, McBees, Pains, and other families connected to
fathers family ( all good people however ). Therefore father sold his land,
moved back to this neighborhood, now the 11th Civil Dist. of Coffee County,
Tenn., bought land and remained on the same until his death, upon which my
father and mother reared a large family of children, 8 girls and 6 boys viz:
Oldest Sally who married Martin Lowry, an old Baptist preacher & farmer. Him
and her both died in Lincoln County, Tenn. & left a large family of
children, most of them now in Lincoln County.
The Lowry family were about all of Old Baptist convictions and were always
talking Old Baptist doctrine. I met Geo. Lowry ( nephew ) a few years ago. He
talked bible a great deal. I asked Geo. if he belonged to the Baptist Church, he
said, no he never did jine but one thing in his life and that was the
Confederate Army, he said he thought he never would get out of the blamed thing,
said he always been afraid to jine anything ever since, for fear if he wanted to
get out of it he couldn't do it. Geo. is dead now, a good fellow and has joined
better people and country than one he left behind him. The Lowry family are a
very fine and a good family of people.
2nd, Nancy, who married Geo. W. Chapman who was a farmer & a fine
blacksmith. Both died in this county and were ( buried ) at the grave yard on
fathers old home sted. They had several children, Columbus, Jasper, Mary Ann,
Sarah, William, Nancy & Geo. All good people, Jasper died in Texas. Mary Ann
died in this county. The others are living at this time.
3rd, Sela W., who married Harrison Cornelison ( a farmer ) who moved to Missouri
about the year 1837. Both dead and buried in MO., leaving a large family of
children mostly living in S.W. Mo.
4th, Lucy, who married Dr. T.P. Stephenson, Both died near here and were buried
at Stephenson Institute. They had no children, but raised two children - T.P.
Levins and Lucy Melvina Womack. There were few better. Your Aunt Lucy died 1860
and was buried at Stephenson Institute. Your Uncle Dr. Stephenson died 1891 and
is buried at Stephenson Institute.
5th, William Berry Womack who went to MO. in 1837 along with the Cornelisons
family, remained in Mo. two years - came back home, remained at home 3 or 4
months then left again for Mo. - went to Nashville taking passage on a
steamboat, we have no account of him since he left Nashville, as to what became
of him is still wrapped in mystery - he had never married.
6th, A.L.J. Womack ( Abner ) was a doctor. He first hung out his shingle in
Hillsboro, Tenn., remained there about 1 year, went from there to Sam Kenley ( ?
) farm on the road between Prarie Plains and Decherd, remained there one year or
two years - from there to Hawkerville ( Alto ) remained there about two years -
from there to Beech Grove, practiced there about 2 years - moved from there to
Pine Bluff, Ark. in 1852, there he established a drug store but continued the
practice of medicine, accumulated considerable property, a farm, Negroes,
&c. The war came uo in 1861. He went into the Confederate command, I think
the 9th Ark. Infantry, was a surgeon in his regt., perhaps only assistant
surgeon. Whenthe war was ended, his negros freed, the farm and other property
gone and devastated, he again engaged in the profession - but his health failed
him. So about the year 1875 he came back to Tenn. ( perhaps in the month of
April ) thinking he could recuperate his health, went to Laynes Springs on the
Cumberland Mountain and died there in July of the same year, died of Asthma and
consumption of the bowles, was buried at the grave yard on fathers old homested.
Bro. Abner married Elizabeth Corn. She was raised on Elk River near Estill
Springs, Franklin County, Tenn. They had three children, Mary Emely, Queen
Victoria and Eliza - all three of the girls graduated from Mary Sharp College,
Winchester, in June 1861. Their mother is also dead. They have wandered away
from Pine Bluff, Ark. so I do not know their whereabouts.
7th, Bro. Levi was a blacksmith and a good fiddler - was a good hearted fellow
and a man of fine sense. He married Nancy Pendergraft. They had a large Family
of children. All moved to Ozark County, Mo. about 1873. Bro. Levi's wife is
dead, he also died last winter, 1904. I think his children are now living mostly
in South West Mo. and N.W. Ark.
8th, Sister Martha - An old maid 80 years old living at my house. You all know
her.
9th, Sister Mary Melissa - She married an Irishman Michael Levins, father of T.P.
and Jasper Levins. He was a tanner by trade and ran a tan yard just across the
road in corner of field in front of where your Uncle Speaker ( ? ) Thomas died.
Your Aunt Melissa died of fever. Her husband after her death married Sally Cash.
Your Uncle Mike Levins either died or was killed in the Rebel Army. I guess your
Aunt Melissa was about 25 years old when she died.
10th, Sister Sibella R. married T.J. Lovlace, a widower with four children. Her
marriage was very much against the will of fathers family. However Lovlace was a
good moral man, was a Seperate Baptist preacher, a farmer and stone mason, but
was a very poor man. His wife died during the Civil War in Lincoln County, Tenn.
Just where she is buried I do not know - have often thought I would some time
make a trip to Lincoln and ascertain where she was buried but have not done so.
She died just before the close of the war. Lovelace and her had a family of
children, perhaps about six. Don't think I met any of the family after the war
closed. Lovelace at the close of the war moved to Ark. - he married after moving
to Ark. - but died several years ago. His children, I think are yet in Ark. -
one or two of their boys preachers. I do not remember their P.O. John and Alex
were the oldest children, don't ( know ) the names of the others. Your Aunt
Sibbella, a nice woman.
11th, - Bro. Lewis H. died in Elmyra Prison N.Y. just before the close of the
war, he died 28th April 1865. He entered the 44th Tenn. Reg. 1861- - - - was
captured at the battle of Gettesburg, Pennsylvania, carried to Elmyra Prison,
died from a relaps of Small Pox and was buried at Elmyra. He married Sarah
Cargile. They had three children, Mary, James & William, all living in
Texas. Sarah died on Sunday the 6th day of Apr. 1862. Bro. Lewis was that day
fighting in the battle of Shiloh. The children were small so the care of them
devolved upon father & mother after having already raised fourteen children
of their own.
12th, The twelfth is the writer F. M. Womack your father who was born within one
mile of where he is now living- - -born 26th day of May 1833. A portion of my
life is an open book to you all. I regret that it has not been a better and more
noble life. Alas I cannot recall it. Perhaps the great majority of people when
looking over their past life, behold with a sad & sorrowing heart their
failures and think could they only be permitted to live it over again theirs
would be a more honorable, worthy and glorious life. Therefore my dear children
as you have but one life to live on this earth do your best to make it a good
life, an honorable Christian Life. Your mother was born the 24th day of Aug.
1834 in Cannon County, Tenn. Your Grandfather Peter Thomas was born in the state
of Va. His father moved to Cannon County at an early day settled near Bradyville.
Your Grandfather Peter J. Thomas moved to Coffee County 1852. Your Ma and me
were married the 26th day of Feb. 1854. Your Grandmother Thomas was before
marriage a Lassiter. Your mother was one of Gods noble women, died Sept. 23,
1883.
13th, My Bro. Wiley C. Womack was a Dr. Went to Pine Bluff, Ark at the age of 18
1/2 years, clerked in a Drug store and studied medicine for two years under my
brother Abner Womack, he came back home, went int practice, moved to Jackson
County, Ala., in 1860, remained there in his profession until his death 5 or six
years ago. Done a large practice. His first wife was Nancy Harris by whom he had
three children, Myrtle, Henry, and Wilma all living at Birmingham, Ala, no
children. His second wife was Luc Teters who died in one or two years after
their marriage. His third wife was a widow Johnson. Her maiden name before
marriage was mattie Linsey- - - - She died about one year before my brother
Wiley died.
14th. My sister Salina H. was the youngest child, married Wm. J. Thomas a
brother to your ma. She died Jan. 1865 at the age of about 28 years. She had one
child, her and her baby child were both buried in the same coffin. Your Aunt
Salina was a very nice intelligent girl. She had a fairly good education, very
few girls of her day that surpassed her in general intelligence.
So you see there were only 14 of Fathers family of children all lived to be
grown, all married but two, your Uncle William and your Aunt Martha. Your uncle
William was not married when we last heard of him. Your Grandfather Womack
always kept a good tably, had a great deal of company, he never charged a man a
bill in {his} life for taking care of him, but always fed and lodged every {one}
gratis. He had a good farm made plenty, kept out of debt, reared those 14
children, fed, clothed and educated them, in fact he gave his children better
opportunities than most of his neighbors gave theirs, he would always see that
his children were at school when he had an opportunity to send them, yet his
children had to work on the farm in order to have food and raminent. I remember
hearing my father say he never bought but one piece of meat in {his} life after
the first year he came to Tenn. I remember very well when he bought it. The idea
of having to buy a piece of meat seemed to trouble him very much. My father had
a very fair education for his day, used to teach school in his young days, acted
as Justice of the Peace a great deal, was clerk for a long time of the Pro. Vo.
Marshalls court, a court of the Home Malisha. My mother was a very small woman,
a nice industrious old lady, had some education, could read and write very well,
was a woman of good natural ability, worked hard, made a great deal of flax,
cotton and woolen cloth, spun her own thread, wove it into cloth, cut and made
it into wearing apparal for the family, sold many webs of cloth of her own make,
such as cotton, jeans lincy &c. In my boyhood I wore no kind of clothing
only such as was manufactured by my mother. Yet we were deprived of many
advantages that the young people have today- - - -but people were generally
honest, social, kind, genteel and as intelligent as they could be under
surrounding circumstances. If a neighbor told you anything then you could rely
upon it as a fact. I can't think there was much fraud, deceit and corruption
among the people then as are now, however we have many good people at present. I
have diverged somewhat from my work I must get back to it.
Your Grandfather and Grandmother were both members of the Old Primitive Baptist
Church, in fact the Womack generations were mostly Baptists. My brothers and
sisters were nearly all Baptist. Your Uncle Wiley and me both members of the
Christian Church. The Old Primitive Baptist as a people seemed to be closely
bound together by their religous ties. Several years ago thay had among them a
Baptist preacher, an able, prominent preacher among them, whom resided in county
of K town of A, was also a merchant in said. While selling goods he became
involved in trouble with a young lady, her people talked of lynching him, so he
gathered up & pulled out for the far West. I learned of the trouble soon
after it occured, some time after I ask your Aunt Martha what had become of this
preacher remarking that I had heard nothing said of him among them for some
time. Your Aunt Martha says may be you have not heard about it. I'll tell you
all about it he has gone to West, he had to go. Says I why, what was the matter,
she says he got into trouble with a girl down about A, her folks talked of
killing him and the poor fellow had to go there or somewhere else, the trifling
heifer she says ought to have been hung- - -but not a single word had she to say
against her brother preacher.
My father was a man of great patience. There used to be a man named Gilliam
Brooks who worked with father when he was a young man. There was once a
Battalion Muster some where in the neighborhood of where my father lived. Brooks
wanted father to let him have a horse to ride to the muster as he had promised
to carry a girl that day, father let him have the horse he wanted and took the
girl up behind him on the horse rode with him on to the muster. Gilliam Brooks
bought ginger cakes from a negro, fed her all the ginger cakes she could eat. In
the evening the girl went off home with another man. Brooks came home in a very
ill humor as to the manner the girl had treated him. He was telling my mother
all about it and in the wind up of the subject he says Aunt Mary there is is one
thing about shore as shooten, she's eat the last of my ginger bread she'll ever
eat. However Gilliam Brooks courted and married another women soon.
My fathers old neighbors was old Esg., James Cunningham, old Esq. Jesse
Reynolds, Old Uncle Jimmy Shield, Old Uncle Johnny Harris, Old Uncle Charley and
Jake Rowland, Old Esq. Cowen, Old Uncle Johnny Crockett, Old Uncle Billy Rankin,
Old Uncle Jimmy Cargile, Old Dad Stephenson, Old Uncle Henry Gotcher, Old Esq.
Jess Gotcher, Old Uncle Gideon Prilley, Old Uncle Johney Dean, Old Esq. Marrow
& Dick Price. Some others not mentioned. In speaking of them I was taught to
call their names as I have written them. If I had mistreated or failed to treat
an old man with respect when I was a boy my father would have Chastised me
surely. My father endeavored to bring up his children right, the wayward steps
that we may have made has not been according to the training, will or violition
of father & mother.
My Grandfathers family of children were oldest, Josiah, I never met him. He
raised a large family of children, his wife was named Comfort. Do not know her
maiden name. Uncle Josiah had a large family of children. I never knew but
little of his family. He had a grand son whose name was Rufus, he has been at my
fathers house often - was graduated at Old Irvin College { Irving College in
Warren County, Tenn. } about the year 1851. He would always come to my fathers
during vacation. He died in Texas several years ago - was a school teacher and
Methodist preacher. Uncle Josiahs family is scattered, can't tell any of their
whereabouts.
2nd. Aunt Sallie married Jeremiah Blanton, said to be a nice man. Some of his
family now living in Texas. Aunt Sallie said to be a very nice women.
3rd. Thomas Womack had a wife and two children. He died. I never knew what
became of his wife and children.
4th. Uncle Burton Womack died young.
5th. Isham Womack my father was the 5th child.
6th. Uncle William Womack { Buck ) married a McBee, he moved to Missouri about
1846 or 1847 from Jackson County, Ala. Stopped over with father on his way and
remained 2 weeks - had a daughter, Cousin Betty who fell from a wagon as they
came { across } the Cumberland Mountain. A wheel ran over her leg and broke it,
therefore they rested at fathers two weeks on account of her misfortune. Uncle
Buck had a large family of children - seemed to be nice family of children. I
think the majority of the boys and girls played the fiddle - they had two
fiddles, some would play and some would dance - they seemed to be an inteligent
family of children. Uncle Buck was moving through in wagons drawn by oxen. He
died in the State of Mo. Some of his children was living in Ozark Co., Mo. a few
years ago.
7th. Uncle Abner Womack married Ibby Patton, sister to Alex Patton who died near
Pelham Tenn. Uncle Abner was a nice man, a strict baptist. Aunt Ibby was a nice
woman. They both died and were buried in Jackson, Ala. They had one daughter,
Mary, who married Robert Gill, Father of Lemm Gill who married your Cousin Mary
Womack, sister to Jimmy and Billy Womack. All lived in Texas. They had several
boys, Wm. Pleasant, John Benton (?), Berry, Alex, Charley and Geo. all living in
Jackson Co., Ala. Dr. Charley lives in Spring Hill, Marshall County, Tenn.
Berry, a Baptist preacher, can't tell where he lives. Uncle Abner had a nice
inteligent family of children.
8th. Uncle Jesse Womack married a Perkins first wife, she died in Jackson
County, Ala. Uncle Jess died in Marshall Co., Ala. - he was the father of Cousin
Mary Gilliam & Cousin Levi Womack. Uncle Jess Womack sometimes called (
Green eye ) was a pecular man, you could hear him talking in common conversation
almost a mile. Soon after his first wife died he visited father, staid few days.
He seemed to be greatly grieved on account of loseing his wife. He said he had
caught his horse every night after supper, since her death and would ride to the
grave yard where she was buried, which was one mile from his home - hoping he
might see her - he went back home from fathers and very soon thereafter I
learned that Uncle Jess had courted and married another women. Uncle Jess had a
large family of children, all respectable. Many years before Uncle Jess died he
had his coffin made. The undertaker brought it home to him, he lay down in it to
see how he liked, was very well pleased with it, he kept it up stairs, Usually
kept shelled corn, peas, or beans in it. I presume he was buried in it.
9th. Uncle Levi Womack married a Bean. He used to teach school in his younger
days, seemed to be a man of good intelligence and nice manners. I met him about
22 years ago. He, at that time lived near Col. Coffees store on Boon Creek,
Jackson Co., Ala. He was running a little mill belonging to Col. Coffee. C.C.
Chapman, John Henley and me were passing near him, went a little off our route
to see him. He was living a second wife, his first wife having died. We taken
dinner with him. I was very glad to see him again, had not met him for many
years. He seemed to be so glad that we had called to see him. We did not stay
only for a short time with him. We then bade him farewell and left. He reminded
me very much in size and appearance of my father. This was my last time to see
Uncle Levi. I think he has been dead about 12 years. He had several children. I
have met some of them but can't tell much about them; those I met seemed to be
mostly nice people. I think some of them are yet in Jackson Co., Ala.
10th. Uncle Asa Womack married a Patton. They lived and died near Coffeeville,
Miss. He seemed to be a real nice man - had several children - have met some of
his children, all seemingly nice intelligent children. One if his sons, Cousin
John was killed in the Battle of Fishing Creek. Some of his children and
grandchildren now living near Coffeeville, Miss.
11th. Aunt Nancy married Jonathan Eaves. I know but little about her. Never met
her or Uncle Jonathan. Do not know when or where thay died. I know nothing of
their children, if any.
I will now refer back to my Grandfather and Grandmother Womack. They both died
long before I was born. I know nothing of Grandfathers brothers, he had one
sister ( Chloe ) think there were several brothers & sisters among them. My
Grandmother before marriage was a Womack and distantly related to Grandfather
Womack, as herein before mentioned. Grandmother Womacks mother was a Rice. She
had one brother only that I have been able to learn of; his name was Abner
Womack who lived and died in Warren County, Tenn. My father use to visit him
when I was a boy, he was very old at the time - has been dead many years. The
Warren County Womacks are kin to my fathers family, there are a great many of
them but I know but little as to the relationship existing. I remember meeting
Bill Womack of McMinnville for the first time about 20 years ago, near Laynes
Springs on Cumberland Mountain. I had passed the Springs & taken a right
hand road. Bill was coming in on a road to my left, he hailed me, I left my road
turning to my left, he turned to his left so we met between the two roads. Bill
says hello, I thought you was Hense Winton. Well says I, I thought you was Hense
Winton. Bill says no my name is Womack. Well sir says I, my name is Womack.
Which one of the Womacks says Bill? I replied Frank Womack. Bill says I have a
brother Frank. Says I which one of the Womacks are you? He said Bill Womack. I
remarked that I had a brother Bill, so you have none the advantage of me. We
laughed over the remarkable introduction. I have met Bill a few ( times ) since
and we always have some fun over our introduction. Bill Womack married a Vovel (
Colville ), a real nice lady.
I can tell but little of my mother. Her name before marriage was Mary Ann
Steward. I remember seeing a half brother of hers, Lewis Bryan. Some of her
people I think are now living near Loudon, East Tenn. I do not remember their
names.
Your Grandfather Thomas was born in the State of Va. He was a shrewd inteligent
man, was a good trader, accumulated considerable property - was the owner of a
large family of negroes when the War between the states came up, his negro
property went by the board, leaving him his farm and some personal effects - he
made considerable money after the war closed. Your Grandmother Thomas died about
1877. Your Grandfather married 12 or 18 months after ( her ) death - married a
widow Sissom living near Bradyville, Cannon County. She owned a fine farm. He
resided on the farm with her. Don't think their union was a pleasant one. His
health became feeble while living with his second wife - your ma went to see
him, came back home, said she did not think he was being treated kindly. So she
sent your Uncle Eck after him, he brought him to my house, he remained there
until he died, about the year 1882. Your Grandma Womack also died at my house.
Your Grandfather Thomas had but one brother, his name was Jack. He was an old
batchelor, died in 1864 at your Grandfather Thomas'. Your Grandpa had two or
three sisters. One of them married a Bryan, one married a Bynum, perhaps another
sister but I do not remember who she married. Your Grandpa and Grandma Thomas
had 9 or 10 children. Your Uncle Allen, your ma, your uncles Huse, Will, Joe,
Aunt Addie, your Uncles Ek, John, Speaker and your Aunt P. Your Uncle Allen, Joe
and Addie now living. Your Grandma Thomas had two brothers, Alex and Hardy
Lasiter. She then had five sisters, four of whose families live in Cannon
County, Tenn. You know as much of them perhaps as I do. All nice people. She had
one sister Nancy who married a Tabor and was living at last account ( in ) Ky.
Your Uncle Carol Tabor was a good clever fellow and a good witness in courts. He
told me he reckoned he was one of the best witnesses in the world, he said every
time there came up a lawsuit in his neighborhood both sides wanted him for a
witness and it was nickety tuck with them as to which side would get him, he
said he prefered being a witness for the side that could get him up the most
money for him.
My dear children I sometimes think I have had a hard time through life, yet I
suppose I have had a more pleasant life than many others. My mind often runs
back to my youthful days, my happiest days in life, while laboring upon the
farm, while attending school at the old log school-house on Beans Creek, near
where the Baptist church house now stands, my oposum hunting, my squirel
hunting, fishing, old fashioned corn shuckings, log rollings, quiltings,
parties, at plays & dances, the company of young folks at camp and
protracted meetings with many other gatherings and associations of young people.
These were bright and unclouded days of sunshine and real happiness with me.
Time rolled on - my youthful days soon flitted away - manhood came on and I
married your ma. God bless all such good and noble women. After marriage came
the cares and responsibilities of a family, the war soon ( came ) up, soon there
was a call for volunteers from Dan to Beersheba. In July 1861 I left a wife and
two children, all that were nearest and dearest to me by the ties of nature to
battle their way for a living, not knowing what my doom might be. Those were
days of trouble and much anxiety but through the mercies of a kind providence I
feel that I was permitted to return home. I volunteered in Co. ( G ) of the 24th
Tenn. Reg. went into camps at Camp Anderson on the left side of the R. R. where
it crosses Stones River 4 miles on this side of Murfreesboro. From there we soon
went to Camp Trousdale in Robinson So., Tenn. Thence to Bowlingreen, Ky. in the
month of Oct., thence in Nov. to Cave City 7 miles from Mamoth Cave, Ky. Thence
to Camp Joe Underwood, Ky. where we had a battle, and came out victorious;
thence back to Cave City; thence back in Dec. to Bowlingreen, Ky. Our Co. then
guarded Johnson and Hardees headquarters in Bowlingreen until the next Feb. We
the evacuated Bowlingreen and fell back to Nashville; then on and on til we
reached Corinth, Miss. from there we went twenty miles to Shiloah and the 6 and
7th days if April, 1862 we fought the Battle of Shiloah on Sunday and Monday. It
was a hard fought Battle. I was present at the capturing of Gen. Prentice ann
his command late Sunday evening. Just after the capture of Gen. Prentice
command, I came near being killed by a shell bursting. A piece of shell tearing
a hole in the crown of my hat, the same piece of shell hitting my gun cutting
the barrel stock and ramer of my gun smoothe off about 1/2 feet from the musel.
I never knew what went with the part cut off. We left the battle field Monday
evening. I saw no cause why we should have evacuated the battle ground. We left
the battle field in good order, then back to Corinth, remained there a few
weeks, while there engaged in skirmish fighting. I went out on picket duty
evening soon after the battle of Shiloah. I had charge of the advanced picket
line, out all night in a rather cold April rain, had just come in in a few days
before from the battle field where I had been greatly exposed to heavy marching,
fighting, heavy rains, toils, starvation &c. My general health before
undergoing all this had not been good for sometime. I therefore became
completely broken down in health. Dr. Bridges advised me to go to a hospital at
Riensa, Miss. I took the train for Rienza but the train passed Rienza & put
me off at Boonville, Miss. I learned while there that William Crockett, brother
to Old Uncle Sam and John Crocket was living within two or three miles of
Boonville. While lying on the platform at Depot there came a citizen along,
seeing that I was in feeble condition, good Samaritan like, conveyed me to the
home of Old Uncle Bill Crocket. He had a nice family. They nursed and treated me
so nice - sent for a physician to treat me. I remained two weeks, my health
recuperated considerably while there. Thomas Patton from Pelham came in to
Crockets two or three days after my arrival there. He was in bad health. I was
glad to see Tom. I had been there two weeks. One morning just after breakfast we
heard heavy cannonading at the town of Boonville in a few minits there came a
citizen along under lash on horseback and told us Boonville was full of Yankees.
Our Army had evacuated Corinth and was falling back down the line of R. R. and
had engaged the Yankees in a fight at Boonville. Tom Patton and me as soon as
possible gathered up our belongings which were few, bade the Crocket family good
by and dissappeared through the back door, down through the woods lot,
interspursed with underbrush, then through a bottom field, crossed the fence,
went up Richland Creek, finally arriving at a small village called Richland. We
kept a rout paralel with the line of R.R. not knowing we might run into a squad
of the enemy, but we managed to miss them entirely. We were in feeble health.
Had to travel slowly. The third day, about sunset, we reached Balden, Miss. on
the R.R. and found our commands encamped there. We were glad to find our
commands. It reminded me of a man being away from home for many days and
rejoiceing one time more to be at home with his family. We remained at Balden
one or two days and took the train for Tupelo, Miss. where we went into camps.
While at Tupelo, Miss. I was examined by the army board of M. D's and discharged
from the army service on the 30th day of June 1862 on account of physical
disabilities. I was first Lieut. in Co. ( G ) 24th Tenn. Regt. Infantry. I could
not stand camp life, and have never gotten over the diseases contracted while in
the army. I reached home 1st Aug. 1862. I suffered a great deal more uneasiness
after reaching home than I did while in the Army as this county was in the hands
of the enemy until the close of the war. This county with the entire South was
completely devestated at the close of the war. I want to remark just now that
history records no people, or nation who have made such good progress in the
development of education, art, science, agriculture, manufacturing and general
progress in developing of the resources of the county as the people of the South
have done under their surrounding circumstances. Every old Confederate soldier
is proud of the Sunny South and its enterprizing people.
THE WAWAUGA SETTLEMENT
See G. R. McGee's author of History of Tennessee a history which has been
adapted for use in the Public Schools of Tenn. From page 53 to 61 inclusive you
will find a history of the Watauga and other settlements, where the people met
in general convention and elected a committee of thirteen men who were to act as
a legislatative body and make laws suited to the needs of the Watauga and other
pioneer settlements of Tenn. We find that William Bean and Jacob Womack ( Womac
) were chosen members of the committee of thirteen. We claim that the family to
which we belong are connected to the said Bean and Womack, while the letter ( k
) is left off the name Womac as appears in said history we are fully satisfied
that this is a typographical error. We find that the first county court embraced
the entire boundarys of what is now known as Tennessee was held at Watauga
Settlement in the Eastern division of the State in the year 1778, and that said
Bean and Womack were members of said County Court. " The very germ of Tenn.
was the Watauga Association; the first government established on this continent
absolutely free of religious test, class distinction, kingly dictation, or
proprietary interference. " " It was a government of the people, by
the people, and for the people it served its purpose and has passed to its place
of honor in the temple of history."
I will say to the family connection, let us not forget to prepetuate, maintain,
diginify, elevate and keep sacred, without spot, blemish or rinkle the name we
assume among the many families of the great universe. If we will only live
right, we will die right, if we live wrong we will die wrong. " Men
generally die as they live." So if we should fail to live right we will
have made one of the most lamentable failures of life.
Now the writer will come back to the days of youth, marriage, &c. I was born
the 26th day of May 1833 in one mile of where I am now living, in the 11th Civil
District of Coffee County, Tenn. Have been living where I now reside for 38
years - I was reared on my fathers farm and worked hard during crop time. Most
of my school days were spent in and around an old log school house that stood on
the banks of Beans Creek near where there is now standing a Baptist Church. My
opportunities for an education were very much limited. In my school boy days we
did not have the advantages of good schools as the youth of the county now have.
To think of the kind of schools we had would seem very strange to the young
people of the present day. Every pupil was allowed to read and spell at the very
highest pitch of his or her voice during school hours, the many voices reading,
spelling &c. at the same time, could at times have been heard for almost a
mile. You could see the teacher sitting in his chair, with switch in hand from 3
to 6 feet long, Oh My; how he would use it some times upon the backs of the bad
boys. Well I guess it will be nothing amiss to give you a few sketches of the
closing exercises of those schools, which the children looked forward to with
proud anticipations of a glorious time comeing, as the teacher would be turned
on that day as we called it. When the last day came the boys would gather hold
of the school master as we usually called him, drag him out of the house and
give him to understand that he must treat the school to whiskey, ginger cakes,
cider, candy, &c. or take a ducking by being thrown into the creek.
Sometimes the teacher would refuse to treat, the boys would then carry him to
the water and when they would be in the act of throwing him in the water he
would then agree to treat. He would send off, buy whiskey, ginger cakes, cider,
&c. ( More whiskey than anything else ) consequently many of the boys would
be drunk. The patrons of the school would gather in to witness the closing
exercises and many of them would become drunken. Those are the kind of schools I
would sometimes attend during my school boy days. The fathers of the country in
those days said we had good schools and good teachers. What would the fathers of
the country say of such schools and teachers in this age of the world? I was
taught to call the letter ( Z ) Izzard. Everyone having any education knew that
was Izzard as soon as he saw it. Just how I struggled through and managed to
obtain what little education I have is a mystery to me. Children today are upon
a higher plane of educational advantages for which they should be thankful and
grasp the opportunities offered.
I was married to Martha Jane Thomas on the 26th day of Feb. 1854 at the age of
20 years and 9 months. She was born near Bradyville in Cannon County, Tenn. on
the 24th day of August 1834, being 19 years 6 months and 2 days old when we were
married. She died Sept. 20th 1883. Aged 49 years and 26 days. We lived together
34 years 6m - 24 das. Her father moved from Cannon County to where F. M. Taylor
Esq. now lives in 1851. I had not known her prior to 1851. She died from measles
settling on her lungs when a girl about 16 years old. She was a member of the
Christian ( Church ) obeyed the gospel and was baptised Sept. 1859. Had a long
spell of sickness not able to turn herself in bed when she was baptised had to
be carried to the creek in a vehicle, carried to the creek after night, the
night rather cool. At the time she was baptised Dr. Hough and Dr. Stephenson
said she was in the last stage of consumption but she recovered and lived 24
years afterword. She was baptised in Beans creek near the crossing of the Prarie
Plains and Pelham road. She was baptised by Bro. Thos. Witherspoon and began to
amend from the time she was baptised. She was baptised in a litter. If I mistake
not Hence Wiliman, Hence Tate, Tobe Harris and Glenmore McGraw are the parties
that bore her into the water. They were all young men then. They are all dead
now but McGraw. We had 9 children born to ( us ). Two of them died in their
infancy. The remaining are yet living. Dr. James B. Womack, living at Bacon,
Coffee County, Tenn. is married. Married 6 years ago, has a wife and one child
Alline. His is the practice of medicine also runs a farm. He married Pamela
Stacy his 2nd cousin. She ia a good women. Thomas H. Womack has been married -
his wife died four years ago. She was Martha Blackburn & a good Women. He
has eight children. Arthur, Porter, Paul, Norah, Claud, Frank, Burt and Patrick.
He runs a farm and follows the business of putting up tombstones and is a very
good sculpture in marble rock.
Salina married Sam Daughtry a lawyer and teacher, she lives on Beans Creek, they
have 4 children, Edgar, Estella, Sam and Francis.
Norah married Jane B. Dickins who is running a Grocery and Feed store at Mont
Eagle, Tenn. He owns two very good farms on Beans Creek. They have two children,
Remar and Lillard.
Dr. Edgar L. Womack married Josie Green who was a good women, a school teacher.
They have no children. Is now living at Summitville, Coffee County, Tenn. He is
practicing medicine. Dr. Almon A. Womack is single, living in Manchester, Tenn.
practicing dentistry. Addie G. married Charley Green, they are now living at
Mont Eagle, Tenn. engaged in a grocery store & feed stable. They have one
child, Blanch. I have spoken of my own children that others of my connection may
know of them should they see this in print. I am very thankful that my children
are blessed with reasonable health and ordinary minds. I am proud to say for
them that they have conducted themselves so as not to have given me but little
trouble, and pray God that they may continue to deport themselves in a way that
they may never bring ruin or disgrace upon themselves or be guilty of anything
that may cast a stigma on themselves, connection or friends.
Now in conclusion I will refer them to one of the wise proverbs of Soloman, 4
chapt. and 23 verse. " " Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of
it are the issues of life. "
After the death of my first wife I lived a widower for nine years. I had a very
hard time. I had three children 5 to 12 years to look after. Had two daughters
grown at the death of their ma but they married soon after her death. My present
wife before marriage was Mary O. Snodgrass, she is of a good family of people.
She is related to Judge Snodgrass who has served on the Supreme Court bench of
our State; also to Henry Snodgrass who has served as a member of the U. S,
Congress. She is much younger than me, being 46 years of age. She was born in
this county, lived 20 miles from me, her mother was a Jenkins. My wife was 34
when we were married what I called an old maid, yet she disclaims it. She was a
member of the Christian Church when we were married. I think her to be a good
women. So I have been blessed with two good wives, one to wait on me in my old
days. I have no children by my present wife. I am 72 years of age, have been a
member of the Christian Church for neare 40 years. Obeyed the gospel under the
preaching of old Bro. Jesse Sewel, was baptised by him in the waters of Beans
Creek. I try to live a Christian life but sometimes find myself on the road that
leads out into the cold bleak mountains of sin but try to wend my way back into
his fold where I can go in and out and find pasture. I have past my three score
and ten years and now living on borrowed time. I know my sun of life will soon
have disappeared behind the hills of time. All sane persons know the importance
of making their calling and election sure, therefore I want to die in the army
of the Lord that I may receive a pension not of dollars and cents but of life
everlasting. I know there is a rest remaining for the people. " Christ said
to his deciples let not your heart be troubled, ye believe in God believe in Me,
In my Fathers house are Mansions; if it were not so I would have told You."
Now in conclusion I will say that my greatest desire in this life is, to so
live, that after I am done with the troubles and turmoils of this world that I
may ( be ) permitted to occupy a place in one of those mansions, where the Lord
has gone to prepare for his deciples.
F. M. Womack, Author
For the love and affection I have for the memory of my first wife Martha Jane
Womack, I dedicate this to her name and memory. Believing as I do that she was
instrumental in bringing me into the body; the Church of Christ. This 27th day
of June, 1905.
F. M. Womack
Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 14:09:59 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net
Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 19:28:30 (PDT)
Royce Gibson
roycegibson@frontiernet.net
Second, I was hoping for a response on my message about how to read the
Valentine Papers
Third, I have just learned that one of the children on Jordan Henry Womack
(Jordan, Carter...) was name Susie and she married an Ashley in Blossom Texas.
She is listed in several census as "S.E." Womack with parents of
Jordan Henry and Mary (Crenshaw). Anyone have anything further on her?
Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 04:52:21 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com
Sorry you feel as you do - have felt that way at times but I didnt give up on
tis bunch here -- that sketch you posted by FM Womack is well known and is in
the original Womack Genealogy Volumes, from which it appears to have been copied
by someone..altho still not perfect at it, I am learning patience with this
group - you never know when someone will come up with something that will help -
I can assure immediate answers are not to be ewxpected nor are they the norm - I
did see some responses to your postts that were quite well put together.
Back up, take a deep breath, have a cuppa something and stick with it -- someday
one of will find that elusive immigrant ancestor, whether it be a William or
not!!
Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 06:43:00 (PDT)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com
Carlos Womack's says possible Children for Travis or his brother Nathaniel.
James, Burwell b December 1748, Ephraim, Francis, Johnson, daughters Jane and
Mary". However, Beth has found Jacob as Johnsons father, so Carlos was
wrong or the info he got was wrong, there is no source info. This is a tough
line and needs much more work. For years we were stuck on Thomas Womack and
Louvisa Rice, recently we have pretty much solved that one. So hang in there,
were working on it.
Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 08:05:56 (PDT)
Tammy B. Young
willys41.1@juno.com
I was thrilled that recently one of my Womack kinfolk sent me a copy of an old
photo of Thomas Jefferson Womack. I had never before seen a photo of him. I had
seen photos of his brother William J. Womack but never of Thomas, until now. I
was thinking this morning, or rather, wondering, if that 'J' middle initial for
Thomas's brother William, actually stands for Jefferson? Or could it stand for
'Johnson' perhaps? I'm sure I'm way off on that but was just a thought. I'm sure
that the J must stand for Jefferson, as I have seen his name spelled out that
way several times now. Thomas did not name any of his sons David so that
surprises me a little. But possibly that 'D' middle initial for Thomas and
Eliza's son Jonathan stands for David. Thomas and wife Eliza Jane Angelina ENSEY-Womack
named their boys Thomas W. and Jonathan D. I have Eliza Jane Ensey's family
history and so on and I wish I had half as much on Thomas's dad's family. On the
original microfilm Census record I found some time back thru' Ancestry.com,
listing James Ledbetter and Elizabeth, it shows James' middle name to start with
a 'W' instead of a 'D'. There was a John D. Ledbetter living just down the road
a piece from James and Eliz. however. One of the letters written by Thomas's son
Thomas W. Womack that I have, is dated March 6, 1910. Thomas W. had gone out
'into the world' to 'make his fortune' and in 1910 he was writing the letter to
one of his kinfolk Geno Buckner. He tells in the letter about the fact that he
is at the present time about 40 miles from Seattle and was to start for Alaska
on a Steam Ship, the 'Northwestern' which was scheduled to leave Seattle March
16th, 1910. He was expecting to be home in Oct. or Nov. He says that he will
write again when he reaches Cordova. He did write one more letter after that
one, to say that he was on a ship and was very ill. That was the last letter he
wrote to his family; or the last letter they ever received from him. Thomas and
Eliza never heard from him again nor saw him again. The family assumed that he
died on the ship, for they did not see or hear from him again. He had nice
handwriting and spoke as if he were well educated. I have the poetry book that
is full of poems he wrote as a young boy and a few poems also that he wrote
after he was full grown. He wrote beautifully. There is a nice photo of him on
the front cover of his book of poems.
Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 11:11:17 (PDT)
Royce Gibson
roycegibson@frontiernet.net
Susan E. Womack, daughter of Jordan Henry married John B. Ashley in 1880 in
Lamar Co. TX - They are on the census page before Jordan and Mary. in 1880 in
that county ED#74 page 35B
Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 18:06:31 (PDT)
Beth Howser
bhoswer
I think there's little doubt that David was the was the father of both William
Jefferson and Thomas Jefferson Womack. Derrell's source, the work of Patricia
Cox Jackson, listed the line as follows: 1JACOB WOMACK M SARAH JOHNSON 2 JOHNSON
ASHLEY WOMACK 3 DAVID WOMACK M ELIZABETH BRISCO/BRISCOE 4 WILLIAM JEFFERSON
WOMACK M MARRY NELSON ENSEY. William Jefferson and his brother, Thomas Jefferson
are both in the household of James and Elizabeth (Brisco) Ledbetter on the 1850
Collin Co., TX Census. Derrell, do you have actual copies of Patricia's research
or did Janet just tell you about it?
I first found Patricia as a source for Johnson's RW pension apps in the Madison
Co., (AR) Musings. Then I received a copy of one of Johnson's apps and a copy of
a family group sheet from one of the WAGS bulletins, listing Patricia as the
source of information. After much searching, I found Patricia as a descendant of
William Jefferson's on Erin Dent's research on World Connect. Erin confirmed
that the late Patricia Cox Jackson was Erin's mother's cousin. At that time I
told Erin that based on Patricia's work, Johnson was David's father. I also
didn't devulge my sourse with respect to Erin's family. The only reservation I
had then was at one time, Patricia thought Johnson was the husband of Elizabeth
Brisco. My best guess is David's (father of William and Thomas)name was actually
David Johnson or Johnson David. It is pretty clear on the 1850 Madison Co., AR
census that David is still alive (the age is correct for your David) and Johnson
was not enumerated. And earlier AR census records have both David and Johnson.
Based on Robert Burke's work, Maj. Jacob, Johnson, David and my Larkin were
together in TN......not all together, but different combinations at different
times. The David I mention was not Johnson's son, but probably a brother of
Johnson's. Since I found Larkin, David and Sally Womack together in Jackson Co.,
TN, there has to be some relationship. The William Womack on Sam's 1829 Arkansas
Sheriff's census is the same William on Robert's 1830 Richland Twp., Crawford
Co., AR census. His age on the 1830 shows to be 20-29. Larkin was also in
Crawford Co., AR in 1830, age 40-49, but he was in Upper Twp. Larkin's William
was not born until 1835 AR. So the William in Richland Twp. is still a puzzle.
So you see, Derrell, after all of this research, I still do not know my Larkin's
father. Now tell me about frustration! When I first started working on Johnson,
I quickly found his father was "a" Jacob Womack and mother Sarah
Johnson. I wanted to say his father was Maj. Jacob, but without any
documentation, I refrained from doing so....anywhere on the web. So, Johnson's
father became the "other Jacob Womack". When Robert pieced it all
together, I began to feel more comfortable with the idea. Most Womack and Bean
researchers have Maj. Jacob's wife as Mary or Martha, and I haven't seen any
documentation on those names from any source. Is either name a derivative of
Sarah? I think we are so fortunate to have come this far. We have a cousin who
goes to Salt Lake City on a regular basis and would gladly look up any records
we name. That's why I wanted Patricia's census and tax lists....dates, counties
and states. In reality, they're probably the same records Robert found.
Tammy, Boatman researchers have a Nancy Womack as the wife of James S. Boatman,
brother to your Richard Gayno Boatman. One researcher has her date of birth ca.
1847 and the marriage ca. 1867, both in Grapevine, Tarrant Co., TX. On the 1880
Precinct 1, Jack Co., TX census, her birthplace is GA. Do you think this info
might be in your Boatman records?
Beth
Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 20:27:46 (PDT)
Tammy B. Young
willys41.1@juno.com
I was curious as to what your Womack line was and you answered that question in
your post. Thank you for your posting, by the way! Well, I have several old
letters of correspondence which are from Pat Jackson to my cousin. (not Erin but
one of my other Womack cousins) I had not seen before however, the information
you just posted where Pat had figured out who Thomas and William's dad was, and
so on. I think that she is most likely right about it too. I don't know but it
does make sense to me that David would fit in there better than Johnson or even
Jacob. I have felt too that David's name might have been David Johnson or as you
said 'Johnson David.' And I'm sure it's made it tougher on us because of the
Census records before 1850 only showing the names of the 'Heads of households'.
That hasn't helped. Yes, I know about my great great grandpa Richard Gayno
Boatman's older brother James S. Boatman being married to Nancy Womack. Yes
that's true, Nancy was a sister to Eliza Jane Womack-Boatman. I have a photo of
James S. Boatman and it's a good photo of him. He is all dressed up in a western
suit and was quite handsome. Richard Gayno was a very nice looking man as well
and I have many pictures of him and his wife Eliza Jane, as well as photos of
Eliza Jane Womack-Boatman's mother Eliza Jane Angelina ENSEY-Womack. I have
quite a few old Womack photos. And I am SO very thankful to have them! James S.
Boatman and brother Richard Gayno were sons of Richard Boatman and wife Mary
Caroline GARRETT-Boatman. Richard Gayno was born 1865 in Tarrant Co. TX and
James S. was born 1846 in GA. Nancy died and after she died, James S. went to
live with the Indians in Oklahoma for several years. The family persuaded him to
'come back to them' so he did for a while and then he went to Silver City with
his wife Nancy's people, the Womacks. He had a freight line there. James was
killed by the Commanches in a massacre in the 1890's. I don't know anything
about James and Nancy's children; if they had any or not; or what happened to
them after Nancy and James died. The family has never known anything of their
children so it leads me to believe that perhaps they had no children? I really
don't know. I found two Womack girls in an Oklahoma Orphanage in Canadian Co.,
OK in 1920. The Orphanage was the Masonic Orphanage at Darlington. The two
Womacks living there were named Maude and Ruth. Maude's age is hard to read, but
it looks like she was 16 years old. No age given for Ruth. I don't think these
were James' and Nancy's children, but the thought crossed my mind when I first
found the record. I don't have a photo of Nancy but I do have photos of all of
Richard Gayno and Eliza Jane's children. My dad who is still living looks very
much like the photos of Richard Gayno.
Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 21:49:44 (PDT)
Tammy
Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 23:50:03 (PDT)
DERRELL
dsrobinson2@cox.net
Friday, May 28, 2004 at 04:56:41 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com
The DNA testing appears to show 3 different Womack lines apparently not closely
releated -- Now on one, the Womack/Blanton relationship was shown --
One taking fathers name, tuther mothers name --
Now lets suppose that a William Womack existed, and he married a Widow Mary Judd
Allen who just happened to have some Allen kids - who took their step fathers
name...and then William and Mary had a few of their own - perhaps William had
one or two from a prior marriage - it was not an uncommon practice for people to
remarry quickly after the death of one spouse and for kids to be raised by a
step parent --
So, Robert and Jack, has there been any cross check with any Allen DNA
participants (if there any)?? Perhaps here lies one of our answers.
Saturday, May 29, 2004 at 01:04:53 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com
Got the second testing of my DNA back -- results are different this time -
I match Roger on all but one, thats A10 and I am only one number higher than
his - on Darrell exact matches except he has no A10, C4 nor H4 posted
of course there is no 425 on me --
So Rog, and Darrell, guess we are stuck with one another as cuz!!!
Saturday, May 29, 2004 at 07:26:32 (PDT)
willie Eatmon
willie@crosstel.net
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 00:49:03 (PDT)
Tonie Mahoney (Bean)
Tonni_lt@cox.net
married Caroline knighton, Butler Bean Jr. had my grandfather James (jim) Bean
who marrieb Lula Booker of Texas in Lufkin, Texas. Lula's daughter Elnora Bean
had my mother by James (Jim) Eddie Castle, also of Lufkin. Texas His father is
ED Cassels.(Castle) ED Cassels wife Name is Susanna Pinson. My Mother name is
Jimmie Marie Castle, (Cassels. My Father name is Charles (Tom) Leon
Tarver, His parents were Jessie Tarver, son of Sidney Tarver. and Francis
Shepherd.All of Texas, I think the Knighton and Shepherd came from Louisiana I
am Told.But Jacob 's father was born in Tennessee. And wife from Georgia. Please
contact me if you reconize this family.
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 15:11:06 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@msn.com
Did my supposing post lay a rotten egg?
Anyway - whatever!
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 17:17:49 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
My objection to it applying to most of the lines is that the legal documents
support at least William, Abraham, Thomas and Richard being blood relatives.
Even if these guys were step-sibs and semi-adopted in, then legally Abraham
couldn't be running around suing the daylights out of people for their property
on the grounds that he was the eldest brother and so entitled to the property.
Now, I'll grant you that John is another story....John is actually the odd man
out in this story in fact.
The trick would be to find a striaght line male descendent of Timothy Allen, I
suppose if one assumed that this was the male Allen connection.
BUT, remembering the estimate that 10% of all births are "non-paternity
events" then chances are that in 13 generations there was a traveling
salesman or two along a couple of the lines.
See, I wasn't ignoring ya, I was just pondering! Lots to ponder in light of your
post, actually. Ann
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com
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