December 2003 Message Archive


Tuesday, December 02, 2003 at 13:40:22 (PST)
Gary Jaensch
jaensch@bakervalley.net

I am researching my Hammack /ock family and run across a Brice Wiseman Hammack and his wife Jane Wammack I believe in the Lincoln County, MO area, would appreciate any help. Thank you.

 


Tuesday, December 02, 2003 at 16:06:25 (PST)
Carolyn Powell
powell@blueridge.net

Apparently a Roger Womack died recently. Is this OUR Roger Womack?

 


Tuesday, December 02, 2003 at 19:37:29 (PST)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

I'm still alive and kicking, just been very busy at work. I hope to get back into researching soon.

 


Wednesday, December 03, 2003 at 15:03:09 (PST)
Carolyn Powell
powell@blueridge.net

Roger, glad to hear you are still with us! Apparently there was a Roger Womack obit and someone wrote to ask me if it was you. I haven't been doing much at all in the way of genealogy for about a year. Just answer the emails that I receive for information from time to time. I had to take some time off for a while.....total burnout I guess. I'm beginning to feel as though I would like to get back to research, but honestly, my Womack line has been depressing as I can't get documentation that I need.

 


Wednesday, December 03, 2003 at 20:20:38 (PST)
.Darrel and Judy Womack
jwma@comcast.net

In the copy of "Some Descendants of William Womack, The Immigrant", on page
R-8, at the bottom there is a refererce to "Womack History" by Evelyn (Reeves) Womack. Dose anyone know where there is a copy, for buying or looking up. Is the book any good , dose anyone know anything about it. Thanks.

 


Thursday, December 04, 2003 at 02:46:48 (PST)
Ernest L. Womack
elwomack@msn.com

Sent my DNA swabs back to DNA Heritage yesterday,Wednesday,12-03-03. As I was the last to sign up, I'm sure my test is the last one in. Looking forward to the results.

 


Thursday, December 04, 2003 at 11:29:32 (PST)
Johnny Womack Case
jcase@texramp.net

Warren's DNA swabs were also mailed yesterday. Now, for the wait...Does anyone know how long? Are the rest of you excited, too?

 


Thursday, December 04, 2003 at 13:14:31 (PST)
Greg Womack
DiamondGeezerUk@aol.co.uk

Hi, my names Greg Womack and im from London, England. I am very interested in where the name womack actually originates from????

 


Thursday, December 04, 2003 at 13:21:02 (PST)
shirley pickering
shirley.pickering2@btopenworld.com

hi. i am looking for a donald graves,who i think lived in waco tx in 1946.He is my father and the address on my birth certificate is box 8 oglesby tx.this is i think something to do with the u.s.a. army. He was stationed in Warton,nr Blackpool,England at the u.s.air base.he was a corporal working as a machinist in the u.s.army.I was born in 1946,my father was staying with my mother for a short when i was born, he returned to america that year. Unfortunately, my mother has died and i do not have an awful lot of information to go on.I think he had at least one brother,possibly more.I beleive he was going back to college when he returned home.I do have his army no. if this would be of any help to anyone. I would love to hear from him, or any possible family that he may have. i am an only child, and would dearly love to have some half brothers or sisters.My father will be around 80 yrs old now i think, I hope somebody out there can help me. Sadly, my mum died before I have had any response from any source.

 


Thursday, December 04, 2003 at 20:00:23 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Johnny
If those two were mailed recently, there are two more somewhere -- and if I remember, it may be after the first of the year before we see results..

 


Thursday, December 04, 2003 at 21:25:37 (PST)
Dave Maher
rhondaanddave@bigpond.com

Can anyone tell me who Evelyn (Reeves) Womack is?? as I have both names in my family and I would like to get in touch with her

 


Friday, December 05, 2003 at 05:37:29 (PST)
Gwen Hoganf
gdhogan@hotmail.com

I am looking for my Sonnamaker relatives. Charles Sonnamaker b. May 22-1852 possibly in Missouri, d. December 23, 1915 in Clay Co., Texas.
Fredrick Sonnamaker b. Germany no exact place of birth and no positive place of death. I belive he (Fredrick) was in Kansas in about 1855.
Any lead would be a wonderful help,
Thank you, Gwen

 


Friday, December 05, 2003 at 16:28:29 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Posting here the abstract (more or less, I didn't do the formal noting of who got which cow) of William Womacke of Essex's will...when I finish Bishop Lawrence, I'll post the 3 abstracts on my site, but since apparently this is a new one to many, I'm posting it here...note that it appears to pay to name your son after your rich brother.....

abstract from will William Womocke, Yeoman of Essex,
Essex 1656 - abstracted (more or less) by Ann McDonald Dec 6, 2003

Well, the interesting stuff starts on page 2 of the will (3 of the PDF)
names - brother James
brother George
sister Anne Chandler
sister Martha Harkford (Hartford?)
sister Mary Cooke
William son of James
William son of George
William Chandler son of Anne
William Harkford son of Martha
John Smith of Budbrooke in Essex, brother in law
gift to poor to be distributed by neighbor William
daughter Mary
- who gets a BUNCH of stuff - however should she die without heirs, we spend the next page figuring out who gets that -
naming - William the neighbor with the unreadable last name
unnamed daughters of James and George
unmamed sons of the 2 brothers

executers - John Smith & brother George helped out by the neighbor.

 


Saturday, December 06, 2003 at 11:22:35 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Well, fishing around the PRO site some more, I find a 1649 John Wymocke in Sussex, and some Camocks, a Mamocke and a Hamocke. Interesting. I should probably finish up on Bishop Laawrence, and then run through the 25 or so Womack variations to see who shows up. Ann

 


Saturday, December 06, 2003 at 11:40:56 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Querying on the LDS site, I ran one on Homack -- I found one Thome Homack, wife Suzanne, christening for a daughter - I have seen the same thing on the same site under Thomas Womock, Thom Womack, etc -
Unfortunately there are as many Hammack/hammock/hommock as there are Womacks in there - so guess they are really a separate bunch tho it looks so close!!

But I know that Homack is really Womack -- from other data I have seen on the same family

Ann from what I saw on Bishop Lawrence - he names his wife Katherine, Lawrence Womack, son of his nephew Lawrence Womack - and Ann his daughter now deceased -
and a coupleof people that appear not related -- so that should put to rest his son Edward???

 


Saturday, December 06, 2003 at 12:07:08 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Sam,
Here's what I have so far from Bishop Lawrence's will
wife Katherine,
Edmund Boure? (dealing with a land mortgage)
Edward Lifter? (same land deal)
Lawrence Womack, son of Lawrence Womack nephew of Mautby
John, bishop of W?
Thomas Covell
Thomas Covell, son of Thomas Covell,&apparently nephew of Katherine the wife
Anne, late daughter
Samuel Browne of Shatford

Codicill -
send Lawrence son of Lawrence the nephew to University, give him books but if he doesn't go, divide books between Lawrence and Robert Lamp, a nephew, supervised by Thomas ? and Mr Thomas Benyon


Still some ?s to decipher, but nary an Edward in sight.


Saturday, December 06, 2003 at 14:09:44 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

I just put up the 1930 AR Census for Womacks on the Arkansas page
Man, the transcribers were the pits - found my grandparents, dad and unk/aunt
as Warnack - the census plainly shows Womack!

The 1880 for AL has my G-GF as Womsck - yet the census is clear as a bell!

 


Saturday, December 06, 2003 at 14:38:23 (PST)
Penny Myers
pmyers@bayou.com

Hello,
I have been looking through all the messages posted here and the Womack research is all very interesting and seems to be well researched with lots of information posted about the various lines. I would like to know if anyone has information on a few of my Womack ancestors. I'll try to give some details as to what I know....I have seen several family trees posted for my line, but the information that I'm looking for is more recent I suppose, right now, I'm just trying to get through the 1800's time era with my Womacks and plan further research later on the earlier Womack family. Some of the information has been documented by me personally, some taken from other sources, so I'll try to stick with what I know for sure here.
First I'll give my Womack line then the questions.
1. My gr grandmother was Nancy Caroline Womack, born Feb 5, 1859 in Jackson Parish Louisiana. She married George M. Tippen Aug 17, 1875 in same parish.
2. Nancy's parents were William Mansel Womack and Ellen Goynes Womack.
William Womack was born in 1815 in St. Helena Parish, Louisiana. Ellen was born March 28, 1820 in Copiah Co. Mississippi.
William and Ellen were married on Dec. 3, 1836 in Copiah Co. Miss. They were married by a Jerimiah Sharples who was later married to an Elizabeth Goins. I think Jerimiah's marriage date from memory is in 1839. I don't at this point know what Ellen's relation if any is to the Elizabeth Goins (Goynes) but would love to know more about this Goins /Goynes family is possible.
3. William Womack's parents were Richard Mansel Womack born abt 1768 in Orange County, North Carolina and Martha unknown. Richard's parents were David Womack and Mildred Pryor Womack. I do have some further information on the children of Richard Mansel Womack and the Womack family but at this point I am more interested in documenting William and Ellen Goynes Womack further.
As far as I know, this Richard Mansel died about 1825 and is buried in St. Helena Pa. Louisiana. Martha was born in Virginia and died 1840 in Simpson County, Mississippi. Martha and Richard were married, according to what I've found from others in Jefferson, Georgia. As a rule, I do try to follow up on sources, documentation, etc. when time and money allows. However, I realize that with most all research in any given family, there is room for error with the best of us, so, I do the best I can with what there is to work with...so, if there are errors with Richard, his childen, etc or parents, just know that I'm only trying as most all of us do, to piece together some history here based on others research as well as my own, so no lambasting or castigating here please if one finds errors in what I've written so far. So, I'll try and keep straight as to my own personal research and what I've obtained from others here (what I can blame on others...ha).
The only thing that I have documented personally is the information up to William and Ellen Goynes Womack, their birth and death dates, marriage, etc. I have personally documented some little on William's father Richard, his census records, and William's mother Martha, her land records in Copiah Co and Simpson co. Mississippi and the census records for this area. All else was obtained from others. So, if there are questions about anything before Richard, I couldn't answer them other than what I have in my notes and files as taken from other's history and research of this family,... just hoping to clarify this point.
William and Ellen are both buried in the Womack cemetery in Jackson Parish, Louisiana, they have headstones listing only their birth and death dates, not the places. William born 1815 (in St. Helena Parish, La), no month or day given for the birth on the headstone, but does have death date listed as died Dec 9, 1878 in Jackson Parish, La. Ellen does have complete dates but not places listed on her headstone, born March 28, 1820 (in Copiah co. Miss), died Dec 28, 1898 in Jackson Parish, La.
Here is a list of their children with birthdates. I do have some further information for whom each married, etc.
1. Martha Womack born Oct. 22, 1837 in Copiah co. Miss
2. Matilda A. (Beddie) Womack born Jan 12, 1839 in Copiah Co. Miss
3. William Riley Womack born Feb 12, 1841 in Jackson Parish,La
4. Sarah Anne Womack born Oct 20, 1842 in Ja. Pa La
5. Kitchan Adeline Womack born Feb 20, 1845 in Ja. Pa La
6. Mildred (Millie) Womack born Sep 15, 1846 in Ja pa La
7. Elizabeth Womack born July 15, 1848 in Ja Pa La
8. Mary Ellen Womack born April 24, 1850 in Ja Pa La
9. Richard Harris Womack born June 5, 1852 in Ja pa La
10. Louisa Josephine Womack born Oct 26, 1854 in Ja Pa La
11 James B. Womack born Feb 2, 1857 in Ja Pa La
12 Nancy Caroline (Nan) born Feb 25, 1859 in Ja Pa La (my gr grandmother)
13 Rankin B. Womack born Jan 25, 1861 in Ja Pa La
Now for my questions.... does anyone know anything about Ellen who married William Womack?? Ellen Goynes Womack was of Indian heritage but I know little or nothing about this. I do have a braid of Ellen's beautiful black hair that was given to me by her grand-daughter, my gr aunt Ollie Womack who was a daughter of Nancy Caroline. I have several photos and personal items, including a trunk and contents that belonged to Nancy Caroline Womack Tippen, the daughter of William and Ellen. In these photos, Nan as Nancy Caroline Tippen was called, looks exactly like an Indian woman. Verbal family history as told by Nan to her children and grandchildren state that her mother Ellen was Indian. Most of the verbal history (Aunt Ollie and her brother Denis) says Choctaw, but some have also said Cherokee. The 1880 census record for Ellen Goynes Womack states that both her parents were born in Georgia. I've researched the Goynes line to no avail for information on my Ellen and no luck at all finding anything for her or her heritage. There was a James and also a John Goynes both listed in the 1820 St. Helena Parish, La census records and I suspect James could be the father of my Ellen, but no proof. The John listed here married a Matilda Hall and is well documented and later moved to Copiah Co. Miss.
So, since Ellen's parents were supposedly born in Georgia, I am not sure if they or her mother would be Cherokee or Choctaw, but my guess would be Cherokee. I know that the children of Ellen seemed to have more of the Cherokee prominent features versus Choctaw features. I don't have a clue as to when Ellen's parents would have migrated to Miss from Georgia, but since Ellen was born in 1820, I figure it seems probable that they were moved possibly between 1810-1820, no clue to exactly when, so it could be any date actually.
There is a William Womack listed in the 1840 Copiah Co. Mississippi census records and I'm wondering if this is MY William because I am not sure when William and Ellen moved from Copiah County, Miss to Jackson Parish, Louisiana. It must have been around 1840-41 because the do have a child William Riley born in Louisiana on Feb 12 1841, the child before that, Matilda born Jan 12, 1839 in Copiah Co. So, if this is My William in the 1840 Copiah Co. census, then Ellen is not listed with him. I strongly suspect that my Ellen hid her identity because she was Indian and at the time of her marriage to William in 1836, well, we all know the history of the Trail of Tears during that time period. There is one family history story told that says when William married Ellen, she had an Indian name that was difficult to pronounce and that William himself began calling her Ellen....I don't know how true this story is?? but I really think most probably Ellen had long since been going by the name of Ellen when they married. I have found many accurate truths in family history stories though, so I learned to pay attention to these things.
My question is....does anyone have any information on William Womack and his parents Richard and Martha and is there any information out there concerning Copiah County and Indian history as pertains to the Womack family? I have also heard that perhaps Martha herself may have been an Indian. I do know that with her land records, one of the land records, 80 acres, was listed as "Pre-emption" which simply means that the land she obtained through the certificate, the settler, in this case Martha, was already living on the land before it was officially surveyed or sold by the General Land Office, United States, thus the settler was given a pre-emption right to acquire the land from the United States.
Since I have so many personal items that belonged to Nan and even a braid of her mother Ellen's hair, this has just really peaked my interest in Nan's parents William and Ellen and prompted me to learn more about Ellen especially. Who was she and why can't I find anything about her and her parents? Researching Indian history is especially difficult. I have a garter that belonged to Nan and my daughter wore this when she married, as have several of the grandchildren of Nan. So, we have a deep love for this gr grandmother and her roots, many personal stories of Nan but do not have much information on her parents, particularly her mother Ellen. I have 6 sisters, no brothers and of all my sisters, it seems that I am the one who inherited all of the Indian features from my gr gr grandmother Ellen and I could write a very interesting book on my adventures and misadventures about my travels across the United States as pertains to my Indian features, the things that I have encountered and been through just based on this heritage of my Indian features. All I know is that I am just drawn to this grandmother, have a deep longing to know her and more about her. I know that Ellen Goynes research is getting out of the direct line of the Womack research, but if anyone has news or information on my Ellen and her husband William, I would really appreciate hearing from you. If you have any suggestions about how I could further research the Indian history here, what I need to do or where to look, I would appreciate the suggestions. First of all, let me say that Ellen is not on any Dawes Rolls, or any roll that I know of etc and I have searched them all for many years for her or news of her or her family....and there's no use even looking for her parents there or on any roll until I can learn WHO these people were, who her parents were....does that make any sense??....in other words, people first and foremost suggest checking the various rolls, and believe me, I have looked long and hard at them, but despite all the various name spellings for the Goynes, Guynes, Goings, Goins listed in the various rolls for the Indians, without knowing who Ellen's parents are, in other words, if they are listed somewhere on one of the rolls I wouldn't know it simply because I don't yet know their names and the names I've found so far do not seem to have a connection to my Ellen, the dates, etc. So, it's tough to locate persons on any of these rolls when you don't know what you're looking for. There are both Cherokee and Choctaw by the Goynes name but I haven't yet made a connection to my Ellen or William.....hope I'm not confusing anyone here...I confuse myself easily, so I know it wouldn't be too hard for me to confuse someone else here, so please bare with me folks..ha.
I'm just thinking that perhaps some Womack researcher has news of the land records in Copiah Co, Miss as pertains to the proximity of the Indians who lived around and about the area at the time of 1820's -1840's....the census records, some kind of document, something??...or perhaps news of Indians that migrated there from Georgia....anything that would help with my research for Ellen and her Goynes family and the Womacks who lived in Copiah and Simpson County Mississippi.
I do know that William's sister Malinda married James Foster, she and James married in Copiah Co and later migrated to Lamar Co. Texas...this James does have a Choctaw mother. So, there is some Indian history in a round about way that pertains to the Womack's living in Copiah Co. Miss...perhaps there's more history I don't yet know about concerning the Womack's there...I also know about Anastasia Short and Abner...so, if anyone has news of my Ellen Goynes Womack and William Womack, please, I'd love to hear from you.
You Womack researchers are an excellant lot of practical and polite people, I admire your hard work and thoroughness and your trails of documenting, speculating, all that goes with research.....putting things together and coming together with it all, the sharing new information and the questions from time to time as to who is whom, etc. I have the greatest respect for all that is done here on this website, the research and the input, so for that reason, I am making an inquiry here. The DNA business is just extrememly interesting to me and I hope to follow that in the future. But, first, I would dearly love just to be able to get more information on my William and Ellen if anyone has news of them. You're a great bunch and thanks again ahead of time for any help that anyone may have.
Sincerely,
Penny Myers

 


Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 05:33:32 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Ann

Going thru some old files I ran across this:

This one is rather intriguing - a year before a daughter Anne is born?
Lawrence WOMUCK
Event(s): Christening: 18 Jan 1664
Burlingham Saint Peter, Norfolk, England
Father: Lawrence WOMUCK Mother: Anne

This appears like mebbe he had a son that didnt make it?? If I remember he also had a daughter, Mary, that died young...

 


Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 14:07:07 (PST)
David Womack
n_e_tyme@hotmail.com

Hello.
I just wanted to say hi since there are not too many of us around where I live at. Its nice to see so many Womacks.
Im located in Longmont, Colorado.


Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 18:52:07 (PST)
Tracie WoMack Easterling
tlwe@bellsouth.net

Penny,

I am very interested in your line...I am a direct descendent of the Copiah Co. MS Womack line...through my father who was born in Copiah Co.

I show Ellen Goyns as Eleanor Goyns. Also, I only have one child listed for them, so your full list of children is GREAT! I am curious though....the one I have is Adeline F. Womack b. February 20, 1845 d. August 08, 1933 m. Daniel Womack. Any help on this one?

Thanks,

Tracie

 


Wednesday, December 10, 2003 at 08:43:27 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Looks like we only have one DNA kit out now -

Joel, where are you???

 


Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 12:56:28 (PST)
Dlynn
Dlynn_walker@yahoo.com

Sam,
You posted to my message back in November, but I haven't been online much lately.

QUOTE:Ss far as William Riley below goes, what year was he born? I have one William Riley b. abt 1859, if he had a daughter born in 1873 - then was a young marriage - son of Cassandra Morris and John Hawkins Womack

MY William Riley Womack b 1826 TN m Lucretia Taylor Womack
Willam R's parents I believe were Levi Berry Womack and Martha Beene Womack

Children of William Riley and Lucretia Taylor Womack

Samantha, Sophronia, John F., Robert L., George W., Martha L., Jessie, Riley R,
Mary, Rhoda Jane and Myrtle.

My gg-grandmother was Rhoda Jane Womack m Eddie Lee Stevens. They had six girls and one boy, My great grandmother had two girls and one boy. My grandmother had four girls and my mother had only one child. Me - a female.

So I am really interested in trying to connect with someone in the male line and document who they are. Then maybe later there will be another DNA test for those of us who decended from FEMALE Womack children.

Thanks for trying to help.

Dlynn


Wednesday, December 17, 2003 at 14:24:17 (PST)
Christina Chavez
e.c.chavez@worldnet.att.net

I am Lookinf for a Cecilia Womack who was married to a Joseph Benjamin Weaver from TN-White County. Based on the marriage record for Powell (Paulino Guivar)Weaver, 2 Sept 1832 Taos, NM, his parents were Jose Benito Weaver and Cecilia Guamaca (Womack) Powell was born ca. 1798/1800 in White County, TN. He had some propery in 1828 in Lovely Co, AR. Eventually he moved to NM and Arizona. He was better known as Paulino Weaver - the famous mountain man and guide to the Mormon Battalion. Powell had a brother named, Duff Weaver.
I am still looking for Powell's parents. I assume they were Benjamin Weaver and ??
Thanks you for any help.
Christina


Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 11:36:10 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Well, looks like all the dna kits are in - and now the long wait.....
are we, or are we not all cuz??

 


Friday, December 19, 2003 at 00:44:05 (PST)
Pepa Bagundol
pepa@eccp.com

I am helping my friend in looking for a certain Eugene Dino Womack. He was assigned in Manila, Philippines during the WWII. If somebody there know who he is and where can we send an e-mail, kindly help us. thanks.

 


Friday, December 19, 2003 at 18:02:49 (PST)
Jack Womack
oldpro@caprok.net

Sam,
It sure looks to me like a whole passel of Womacks are going to be cousins to some degree. My old many times great Abraham 1644 was dang sure mine. Some arn't going to like to know their g pappy Thomas was born out of wedlock, which isn't so bad considering the times. Shoot the courts and the church even issued basterdly bonds back then to take care of these things. Twasn't any welfare in those days and widows and widowers junped at the first chance they had. Some of those old fellers had to settle for what they found worked best. Heck some of the other lines had hog thieves, wife beaters, jail birds and drunks in them. Abraham Sr 1708 served time for his affair with Ann, and lots of others served jail time for failing to fill their pew in church, fighting and raising cain in general. Abraham even provided support for Ann for one year through the church after the affair, That's better that a lot of fathers do now. Thomas is shown to have provided for his mother Ann Blanton even after he and Louvisa married. Looks like Thomas Sr and Mary Farley Womack Abe Sr's parents apparently were not pleased with Abe's carrying on cause ol Mary only left him "one dollar and no more"
Thomas Blanton was probablly Ann's first spouse and her first child was maybe Josuah and was Bound out to Abraham because he was shown in Abe Sr's household and of majority in 1750. It' a pretty good bet that something had happened to Abe's first wife by 1740, She may have died in childbirth, because Ann and Abe had free reign and sired the two chillins between 1740 and 1743, this being Thomas Womack and Archee Blanton. The other child ordered to be bound out was Richard Blanton Jr. Don't know who he belongs to but was apparentlly not Abe Sr's due to his age ( Later records indicate he was born before the affair).
There's one thing for sure Abe Sr was Thomas's daddy, DNA don't lie and the supporting documents are there. The rest is not set in stone but I'm mixing the mortar as fast as I can, finding a tid bit every now and then. If the five brothers thing proves out with the current DNA test we will have lots of notes to compare. Be advised, good records are necessary to use DNA in genealogy other that just proving someones related. We got a double dose of Blantons when Jeremiah Blanton married Sallie Womack dau of Lucy who married her first half cousin William Womack, Jeremiah being the S/O Archie Blanton. Lucinda "Lucy" was the dau of Thomas and Louvisa.
Don't y'all go picking on me now, just the facts ma'mm.
Jack

 


Sunday, December 21, 2003 at 18:19:00 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.con

Jack
Get with Roger - he has his results back - mine are about a week behind his - we need to know if this is working since you have already done yours also

 


Monday, December 22, 2003 at 05:36:28 (PST)
James T. Womack
farmboy_73@direcway.com

I am trying to locate my family's roots. My grandfather was Abner C. Womack, from Houston County Alabama. I have several Uncles in the same area as well as cousins. Some of my Uncles' names (all Womack) are : Morris, Bernard, Shelby, Lynwood, and Harold. Some of my Second Cousin's names in the same area: Don, Tommy, Rex, and Bobby. I would appreciate any and all assistance I can get. I am still trying to locate my family's coat of arms and family crest. Thanks again for the time. James Todd Womack

 


Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 09:50:35 (PST)
Jack Womack
oldpro@caprok.net

Roger, Sam, Robert and all gleaners of Womack lineages.
The DNA results are important to us all but what is more so is
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR
May it bring you PEACE, JOY, HAPPINESS and the
ANCESTOR you search for.

 


Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 18:26:33 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Jack
Yes that is true a Merry and a Happy but methinks we gota look at some new ancestahs from the comparison of yer and Rog's results!! DAng it Granny!!

 


Wednesday, December 24, 2003 at 00:28:57 (PST)
Karen Duffy
duffydarkone@yahoo.com

I registered a while ago and noticed today (12/24) that my name is not listed yet. Anyway, trying to find out more info on my family. My mother's maiden name is Virginia Louise Womack, b. 8-22-27. she has sisters, Rosa Jane, Ethel Lois, Gladys ?, and one brother, Thomas.I did find what I believe are their names in your lists. Her father's name was George Howard Womack and he died when she was very young. Her Mother was Rosa Jane King Womack, b. July 1901, so I would say his birthdate would be somewhere around then. I have no idea beyond that, although I could probably try to pick my mom's brain some more. As far as I know, they always lived in Davidson County,(Nashville) Tennessee. I remember my grandmother telling me there were a lot of relatives in McMinnville, TN and that a Womack that was a printer had printed a genealogical book. I remember seeing the book, but I do not know where became of it after she died. Any info would be appreciated.

 


Wednesday, December 24, 2003 at 13:52:16 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Karen
Go to the WGN home page, scroll down to Womack Genealogy toward the bottom and click in - there you will find the digitized version of those genealogy volumes you mentioned in your post.

 


Thursday, December 25, 2003 at 18:33:34 (PST)
Jack Womack
oldpro@caprok.net

DNA INFO.
I have posted all my markers to the Y Base org and am posting them here also for easy access.
Haplotype details:
DYS19: 14
DYS385a: 14
DYS385b: 15
DYS388: 14
DYS389i: 12
DYS389ii: 28
DYS390: 23
DYS391: 10
DYS392: 11
DYS393: 13
DYS425: 0
DYS426: 11
DYS437: 16
DYS438: 10
DYS439: 11
DYS447: 23
DYS448: 0
DYS449: 0
DYS454: 11
DYS455: 8
DYS458: 0
DYS459a: 0
DYS459b: 0
DYS460: 10
DYS461: 11
DYS462: 13
DYS464a: 0
DYS464b: 0
DYS464c: 0
DYS464d: 0
YCAII a: 19
YCAII b: 21
GATA A10: 13
GATA C4: 22
GATA H4: 11
GAAT1B07: 11

Haplogroup assignment:

Haplogroup description:


Additional haplogroup info:


YAP marker: not tested

Number of participants: 1

Test Month: January
Test Year: 2002

Surname: Womack
E-Mail: oldpro@caprok.net


Friday, December 26, 2003 at 12:18:32 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Now that the Y-DNA results are popping up, could some one care to interpret or summarize when they are in. So far all I can figure out is that Jack is generally Western European. Which obviously doesn't come under the heading of news! Ann

 


Friday, December 26, 2003 at 20:28:53 (PST)
Jack Womack
oldpro@caprok.net

Ann
You are quite right about the area my Haplotype being Western European, North to be exact, probablly UK. Having spent several hours searching the Y Dase and comparing my markers against matches ranging from 15 to 26 marker matches I was shocked to find Haplotypes there of collateral families I have researched. There are records in the database with surnames that I find in quite a few lineages. My markers matched two with a 26/26 match one with a 25/26 and many with 15 to 24 repeats match. One record being a Dunham with a high number of matches turned out to be a descendant of my Great Grand Uncle William C Womack who married Rebecca Dunham. How's that for a find. Any one can enter their DNA in the Y Base, it's free. Those tested from another lab and those tested before certain dates must convert their markers to the new standards. Dna Heritage, www.dnaheritage.com provides the free www.ybase.org and has all the info therein. While Rogers dna and mine did not match we were of somewhat the same family group. It is much too early to compare info on the Womack lines. Y base provides an interesting read and has he latest conversion information.
Ann I know you were tested long ago but I dont know for what surname. Check out the surname search on Y base, there are over 2000 surnames on file from all over the world. Just hope some UK match turn up someday.
Jack

 


Sunday, December 28, 2003 at 17:09:12 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
www.womackhunter.homestead.com

At long last, the abstracts of the 3 English Womack wills are up on my site. They are on the Cambridge page, because 2 of the Laurence cites there mentioned the wills anyway, and so the third one for William Womack, Yeoman of Essex, is simply at the bottom listed as stray. I think I posted the most relevant stuff here already anyway. Ok, I know I promised to make transcriptions, not abstractions, but my eyes were bugging out after a while. The Summerscales one I have read and it has zippo decent info in it in terms of Womacks, so I haven't done anything more with it.

I'm doing my annual clean up and filing, and I find I have a few other files around here from the Lib of VA that I failed to transcribe and/or post - so I'll get on to that. If someone spots any more of the PRO wills lurking under odd variations, give me a hoot, they are cheap enough to download and small enough files that with a DSL line they zap right through. Indeed if A2A ever goes to online access to the files, that would also be wonderful, or if a new file pops up on ancestry, also not a bad thing.

Oh, and BTW, if you want to see my service poodle-doggie in training - he's at
www.quiltdog.homestead.com/photos.html
and click on one of the photos listed as Cowboy doing various things - he's 18 months now and doing quite well in his training......so says the proud poodle-mom....

 


Sunday, December 28, 2003 at 17:38:57 (PST)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

Ann, I don't know why but you must add the http: before the address to make the link work. Other wise it just adds the address to the end of womacknet.com/ just repost the address.

 


Sunday, December 28, 2003 at 17:49:40 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com
http://www.womackhunter.homestead.com

Sorry about that Roger! Hopefully that will work! You want the page link to the list of Cambridge guys on the left of the screen - it's actually busy updating the land grants page right now unless it crashed.....

 


Sunday, December 28, 2003 at 23:11:26 (PST)
Melinda Massey
mella38@aol.com

I am looking for information on a Lucinda "Lucy" Warmich/Womack who was married to James M. Chandler.
They lived in Carroll County Georgia at one time.
Had at least 3 boys, James, John T. & Robert , and 1 daughter, Martha.
Something happened to James & Lucinda right after the civil war, because the kids show up in other households as of the 1870 Census for Haralson, Georgia.
I do know that the kids migrated to Alabama then moved on to Arkansas.
Any help will be greatly appreciated!!
Feel free to contact me personally.

Melinda Massey

 


Monday, December 29, 2003 at 05:57:43 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Ann
I have copies of the wills for Arthur who died abt 1607 and Henry, 1627 or 8.
I cannot read Arthur's well enough to get much out of it -- Henry's is a little better - perhaps I can scan them in and send to you and mebbe you can translate them -- let me know --

 


Monday, December 29, 2003 at 11:08:38 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Sam, sure send it along and I'll see if I can abstract it. Ann

 


Monday, December 29, 2003 at 11:59:15 (PST)
William Eugene Womack
Ghostrider420@direcway.com
N/A

My name is William Eugene Womack.I live in No. California. My father was Billy Gene Womack, from Weleetka, OK. I was recently informed that I'm not part Cherokee but Lumbee Indian, of mixed African, Caucation and Tuscarora Indian ancestry.
I'm new at this type of research and was wondering if any Womack's out there know what I'm talking about or could help me in this quest.
Thank you,
William Eugene Womack

 


Monday, December 29, 2003 at 20:19:10 (PST)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

William, we have many in our family that still want to be Cherokee. However, Our Grandmother Rachael Ausmus who married George Farris Womack, is where the Lumbee possibly comes into play, her mother Eliza Jane Ausmus (nee Sessions) was listed as Mulatto on the 1850 Scott Co., AR census. Just email me and I will explain it.

 


Tuesday, December 30, 2003 at 18:14:55 (PST)
Charles R Jenkins
bberj@aol.com

Looking for WS Brown,lawyer from Cincinnati,and my google took me to Vol. I, No 2, item 16, page 29. Elizabeth Brown Richardson reported she was do. WS Brown and Margaret Uzzell, do. Dunn U & Susan Elizabeth Kennard, do. Michael Moore K & Mary Anne Womack, do. Abraham Minter Womack. I would like to contact anyone knowledgable about this line. I suspect the WS Brown is a relative who has eluded my search. His discovery would nearly fill up my ggfathers large family.

 


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