November 2003 Message Archive
Saturday, November 08, 2003 at 21:01:05 (PST)
Mark Womack
markwomack@womacknet.com

This is a test, please ignore.

 


Saturday, November 08, 2003 at 22:23:39 (PST)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

May-August messages have been moved to the Archives.


Saturday, November 08, 2003 at 22:30:22 (PST)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

My DNA test kit arrived in the mail today, I'll get it back in the mail on monday. I'm excited about getting this going. My only apprehension is I sure hope all my grandmothers were faithful. A special thanks to Robert Burke for being the administrator on this DNA testing. Robert bring us up to date.

Mark, thank you for getting our message page up and running again.

 


Sunday, November 09, 2003 at 04:49:19 (PST)
Jack Womack
oldpro@caprok.net

DNA PROJECT UPDATE
Hello all,
The message board has been down for several days and I know you are interested in the DNA project underway. Robert Burke has put up a web page with a list of those who are participating. If you or someone you know would like to be tested time is running out. Robert has pre-paid for 10 test kits and they are almost gone, he has to recieve the payment for all who would like to participate and have it in to DNA Heritage before the deadline of November 16 to get the group rate of $84.22 per head. After that the rate goes back to the normal rate, almost double. Please contact Robert at robertburke@juno.com if you want to participate. We would like to have you join us in the project. Roberts website is at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~reburke/lines/data/womack/index3.html. Many of your questions can be answered there.
So far the mix of lineages are very good and we look forward to brick walls to fall, linages to be proven or disproved, relation between linages established and possibly a connection to our English origin thru the Y Base Org. where DNA from England, Ireland and many other countries are being posted to compare.
Robert and I have been fielding all querys by e mail but will post updates here on the board so you may keep track of this exciting project.
As many of you know my DNA has proven who Thomas A Womack parents were which leads back to the five brothers in Virginia and hopefully to the William 1 and beyond.
Jack

 


Sunday, November 09, 2003 at 05:07:03 (PST)
Jack Womack
oldpro@caprok.net

Re: Margaret Womack
Has anyone any info on Margaret Womack who came to the Colony in 1646 and was issued a headright. She would have to been of malority age to receive a headright. She would not have been a sister to any of the known brothers, nor would she have been a daughter of the elusive William but most likely a sister to him. If William came from England in 1640 as one Colonial record states, he may have brought her over six years after he had established himself.
Any info appreciated.

Thanks Mark for getting the board back online, we depend on it so much.
Jack

 


Sunday, November 09, 2003 at 13:53:44 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Jack, have you got a citation for that head right, as the earliest one I find in the VA land records is Richard in 1672.....Ann

 


Sunday, November 09, 2003 at 17:35:38 (PST)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

Jack, I don't think you are going to get much help on Margaret or William as I don't remember anyone ever posting anything conclusive here on WGN. I think David posted something within the past couple of months that referred to a William, but I need to check the post. David if you are listening, re-post that info.

 


Sunday, November 09, 2003 at 17:42:06 (PST)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

Any of you male Womack, Wommack,Womac, and 40 or so other variations of our surname need to get with Robert Burke, ASAP. I believe were only have a few days to get everyone in for the group rate for the DNA testing. This really could make some big break-throughs for all of us.

 


Sunday, November 09, 2003 at 17:54:18 (PST)
Kim
KWood17706@aol.com

I am trying to piece together some things.

There is a William Hamrick who proved a deed for Abner Womack for John WIlkisnon. I am trying to determine how these men were associated with John WIlkinson.
I know back then, the men would have to be well trusted.

This was in Rutherford County < NC...In 1810.

Did any of the Womacks married Wilkinson, Wilkerson, Wilkesons.

Thanks,
Kim

 


Monday, November 10, 2003 at 16:50:03 (PST)
Sandy (Wonsewitz) Edmonds
SWonsewitzE@wmconnect.com

COREY - WOMACK;
Searching for my Maternal G-Grandmother's line.
Lutisha Womack;B: 15 AUG 1841 (Illinois) D: 17 Aug 1908 (St. Louis, Mo).
M: Thomas Corey;B: 02 Oct 1834 (Ohio) D:02 Apr 1911 (St. Louis, Mo).
Both buried Friedens Cemetary, St. Louis, Mo.
One known son: Joseph Preston Corey;B: 30 July 1861 (Putnam County, Mo).
D: 13 Feb 1915 (St. Louis, Mo).
Appreciate any help or information. Thank you. Sandy


Monday, November 10, 2003 at 20:52:46 (PST)
Mark Womack
markwomack@womacknet.com

I apologize that the message page was down for so many days. I will keep more on top of those Earthlink folks next time.

And I add my voice to the request for folks to get involved in the Womack DNA project. I don't know exactly what we will find in the process, but if we don't look, we'll never know. It will be really cool if there are markers distinguishing the major lines. But we'll see where it goes. So, if you can afford to join in, please contact Robert Burke (robertburke@juno.com). Thanks to him and Jack for coordinating the efforts.

-Mark

 


Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 08:14:48 (PST)
Jack Womack
oldpro@caprok.net

FYI
I am looking for the file I put the info in on Margaret Womack 1646 headright and the William Womack from England 1640 thing. Need a search engine in my 38,000 + files. Please bear with me, I knew I should have put that notes lite program on my PC but this thing already has 77 Icons on the desk top and a dozen in the systray. I ran the defrag program the other night and it took over two hours.
Total files on my rig excedes 195,000, so it isn't easy.

 


Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 09:15:30 (PST)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

I put my Y-DNA swabs back in the mail yesterday. It cost .92 cents to airmail back to DNA Heritage in the United Kingdom, I just figured it would cost more.
This is exciting. From reading the Y-DNA tutorial we should all be the same or close. If there is a mutation in a line we will know if someone came down that line also, pretty cool. Now its just wait and see.

 


Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 13:43:37 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Rog
I guess mine are in the post office - I got a pickup notice out of the box today - got stuck in a detour getting outta Phoenix yesterday and missed getting to the PO -

You're right about getting excited about this thang - now if'n some of those folks across the pond would get involved also we might at least determine what area our elusive guy came from -

 


Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 18:10:31 (PST)
David Dunn
dadunn@terranova.net

Jack, Roger and Ann and everybody. First, a person was not issued a headright in his/her name. People were issued headrights for other persons whose passage to VA they paid. The person in whose name the headright was issued could be any age from one day to a hundred and thirteen years. You also could buy/own/acquire a headright at any age. What if any is the reference to a Margaret in 1646? What Colonial record states a William came from England in 1640?

 


Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 19:50:26 (PST)
dcox
dcox@kerrlake.com
Re: Margaret Weym'ke

Jack, Ann & All,

The reference in my notes for Margaret Weym'ke is as follows:
"CHERRY GROVE" by Egbert Hudson Womack
"Cherry Grove" is on the Womack Genealogy Network.

This is the excerpt from "Cherry Grove" pertaining to Margaret Weym'ke.

"6. The only reference to a person, who may have been a Womack, in Virginia prior to 1674, which we have been able to find in secondary authorities, is Margaret Weym'ke (also spelled "Weymark" and "Weyneck"), who is named as one of the head rights in a 1646 land grant to David Jones of Charles City County. See Cavaliers and Pioneerc (1934) by Nell Marion Nugent, p. 167, and Early Virginia Immigrants (1912) by Rev. George Cabell Greer."

When I have searched for this Margaret Weym'ke in the records available on
the net; I found the following of interest:

Source: Library of Virginia online digital records.
Patent Book 2 page 94, David Jones, 20 November 1646, Charles City County, Description: 650 acres a neck of land, lying between two creeks opposite against Taphanna Marsh; upon the northerly side of the river....

The following is one of seven persons listed as a headright in the above patent, Patent Book 2 page 94. I listed several possible spellings after
examining the name in the patent. There is no exclamation point. It was
apparently put in "Cherry Grove" as I might use a [*] to denote unknown letter. To me, it looked more like a lower case [L]. However, it is
written slightly above the name in between the [m] and the [k].
Margaret Weym'ke or Woym'ke or
Margaret Weymeke or Woymeke or
Mararet Weymlke or Woymlke.

[LVA] Gen. note - "See page 340 of this book no. 2 in the abstract book, under the title "No Country."
I found nothing of interest examining Patent Book 2:340.

Love, Doris


Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 20:52:30 (PST)
Robert Burke
robertburke@juno.com
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~reburke/lines/data/womack/index3.html

Quick update on the DNA project:

It looks like we will have at least 9, and possibly 13, male Womacks being tested in this first round. This is really great, because a lot of these surname projects struggle just to get the first 5 people. This number does not include Jack Womack, who had a DNA test earlier as part of the Blanton project. So, we will have tests for 10 to 14 people to compare.

 


Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 21:44:48 (PST)
Dave Schoff
rdschoff@hotmail.com

For everyone's information. Jack, is this one in your line?

San Angelo Standard – Times
Saturday, November 1, 2003

Charles Edward Simpson

Retired Lt.Col. Charles Edward Simpson, 81, of San Angelo, Texas, passed away early Thursday morning, October 30, 2003, at Shannon Hospital.
Internment service will be at 10 a.m. Monday, November 3, in Lawnhaven Memorial Gardens in San Angelo, with military honors provided by Goodfellow Air Force Base, followed by a memorial service at 11 a.m. at First Christian Church with the Rev. Ben Herbert. Visitation with family and friends will be from 4 – 6 p.m., Sunday, November 2, at Johnson’s Funeral Home.
Charles was born on December 13, 1921, to Edward Simpson and Clara Louise Senn Simpson in Rotan, Texas. He graduated from Ackerly High School, Ackerly, Texas, in 1939. He attended San Angelo Junior College. He married Martha Jane Womack of San Angelo, Texas, February 16, 1945. He graduated from the University of Texas in 1947.
Charles enlisted in the Army Air Corps in January 1942. During World War II, he was a fighter pilot serving in North Africa, Sicily, Italy and the southern European theater of operations. He was awarded the silver star for valor in combat. He was discharged as a captain in December 1945 and returned to college to complete his education.
In 1951, during the Korean conflict, he was recalled to active duty by the U. S. Air Force at Goodfellow Air Force Base. He remained in the Air Force for 28 and one-half years until he retired in 1970. He was a pilot in B-36 and B-52 bombers for the Strategic Air Command.
Following his retirement from the Air Force, he was a licensed real estate agent and broker in California and a rancher with his wife in Schleicher County, Texas.
Charles made many friends during his military service. He served as the president to 1st Fighter Group Association and attended many military reunions with the 1st Group, 71st Fighter Squadron and the Altus Air Force Base bomber wing.
Charles was preceded in death by his parents, Edward and Louise Simpson; brother Donald; and sister, Gwendolyn Johnston.
He is survived by his wife of 58 years, Martha Jane Simpson of San Angelo; his son, Thomas C. Simpson and wife, Cheryl, of Anchorage, Alaska; daughters, Nancy J. Sardon and husband, Rick, of Sacramento, California, and Susan A. Simpson-Kuzma and husband, Ben, of Tucson, Arizona; four grandsons, Blaine C. Simpson and wife, LeAnne, of Austin, Anthony and Christopher Sardon of Sacramento, California, Max A. Kuzma of Tucson, Arizona; granddaughter Sarah A. Simpson of Houston; and one great-granddaughter, due next year to Blaine and LeAnne. He is also survived by his sister, Evelyn Wild and husband, Art, of Long Beach, California, along with numerous nephews and nieces.
Special thanks for the loving care provided to our father by Lucy Hernandez, Rosa Perez, Lisa Hernandez, and Marisol Torres.

 


Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 21:57:50 (PST)
Robert Burke
robertburke@juno.com

Now, for a post that has nothing to do with DNA...

I've seen a few places on the Internet that Jesse Womack (son of Richard Womack III and Anne "Nancy" Childers) married Dorothy Pryor, daughter of John Pryor and Margaret Gaines. THIS IS INCORRECT!!! Dorothy Pryor married Henry McNeil.

Before I explain, let me digress a bit. My Burke line has been in Henry Co, TN since 1836; my grandpa Burke was born there. Before then, my Burkes were in Orange, Caswell, and Person counties in NC. I was surprised to find my Burke ancestors in NC living near and interacting with Womacks there, because my grandpa Burke's wife is Thelma Womack Burke. I thought it would be cool if my grandparents' ancestors both came from the same place, but that was not the case.

Anyhow, my ancestor, Madison Burke Sr, had a brother named Samuel Burke who married Margaret McNeil. Margaret's parents were Henry McNeil and Dorothy Pryor. About 1817, Henry McNeil and Samuel Burke moved to Christian Co, KY, and Dorothy died there in 1824. I have rock-solid proof that Henry McNeil married Dorothy Pryor, daughter of John Pryor and Margaret Gaines.

The will of John Pryor proves that David Womack and John Womack were his son-in-laws. When John Pryor wrote his will, Dorothy was only about 16 and not married yet. John Pryor left Dorothy a slave named Cloe. Years later, Henry McNeil sold a 10-year old slave named Jane. The deed says Jane was the daughter of Cloe who was formerly the property of John Pryor, deceased. There is lots of other proof that Henry McNeil married Dorothy Pryor, and this is pretty much accepted among Pryor family researchers. Henry and Dorothy had a son named Pryor McNeil.

They also had a daughter named Catherine McNeil, who I believe was the same Catherine McNeil who married Jesse Womack, son of John Womack and Lucy Pryor; thus Catherine and Jesse were first cousins.

There is a logical error in these genealogies that say Jesse Womack married Dorothy Pryor. They say that Dorothy died in 1824 in Hopkinsville (Christian Co), KY, which is true. However they also say Dorothy was Jesse's first wife, and that he had a son by his second wife, Phoebe LNU, in 1779. Unless Jesse and Dorothy divorced (unlikely back then) or he was married to two women at the same time (even more unlikey), then there is a problem here.

Sorry to say I do not know who Jesse's first wife was. Two of his brothers married Pryor sisters, but Jesse definitely did not marry Dorothy Pryor.

 


Wednesday, November 12, 2003 at 08:50:23 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

David, I know - but the new Library of VA searching ability runs through the headrights as well as any other persons named in the patent, which is really nice for finding someone when another person patents the land next to his. Anyway, Doris has the citation, so we'll all go look and see what it really looked like - I could have sworn I had tried nearly every variation of Womack I could think of on that database, but maybe not! Let's see who else shows up in there! Ann

 


Wednesday, November 12, 2003 at 09:38:42 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Doris, Thanks! Just took a gander at it, and it looks like Woymke or Woym'ke to me - depending on whether that mark above it is meant for the name or is just a mark. Curiously it doesn't seem to be indexed at all under any variation I could think of. I just cruised through all the Ws and didn't find any one else to check - Possibly I should check the Hs as well --Well, how bizarre, there is one I don't remember in 1663 - patent of Capt. William HAY and they have a SMOAK HOMACK listed as a name....now that I have to see in real life, that sounds like a place, not a person..ok, I'll grant you a Homack in 1663. Weird, I'll have to print that one out and study it some more. Ah well - now back to another point

I'm thinking rereading the Valentine papers trying to connect some dots and I'm wondering if old Abraham SR (the guy who sued everyone) really died ca 1733 at around 90 years old or if he died ca 1710-20 and that 1733 will is his son's.... It was possible to live to 90 in those days, but how possible that all those kids would still be alive? Anyway, just pondering along.

 


Wednesday, November 12, 2003 at 10:34:37 (PST)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

In my database I have Jesse Womack marrying Catherine Cameron McNeill the daughter of Henry McNeill and Dorothy Pryor. Jesse, being the son of John Womack sp Lucy Pryor.

Jesse Womack, son of Richard and Ann Childers who married a 1st Dorothy Pryor, 2nd Phebe I do not have parents on this Dorothy Pryor but she was born abt 10 years before Dorothy Pryor who married Henry McNeill.

 


Wednesday, November 12, 2003 at 11:13:13 (PST)
Elizabeth Wachman
esjedi2000@yahoo.com
none

I am new to this website. You really have a great thing going. My Uncle David and I are looking for information on his grandmother, Elizabeth Womack. We think she was born in KY, we know she had family there. She married a man from Sweden who went by several names: Carl Brattstrom, Charles Wilham Wilson there could also be a Freddric in there. They should of gotten married in the 1880's but do not know where they were married. There children Anna, Jack and Vera were born in Big Stoney Gap Virginia and grew up with the name Wilson. They moved to Woodstock Alabama where Mary was born but I am not sure if this is the child Elizabeth died giving birth too. She is buried in Northern part of B'ham. My Uncle David only remembers visiting some of her family in KY but doesn't remember there names. He was alway told he was from the first families of virginia. If anyone is out there that can give me some direction that would be great. Elizabeth

 


Wednesday, November 12, 2003 at 17:24:40 (PST)
David Dunn
dadunn@terranova.net

Well, I was not quite right. You could get a headright in your own name, if you paid for your own passage.

 


Thursday, November 13, 2003 at 05:52:34 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Got me DNA thing yesterday - have ready to send back today if I can make the PO before it closes at 5pm -- guess you gotta put that customs stamp thing on it too? Roger did you have to do that??

 


Thursday, November 13, 2003 at 07:20:11 (PST)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

Sam, Yes you do, I just wrote buccal swab and checked the merchandise box.
Exciting!!!

 


Thursday, November 13, 2003 at 16:14:22 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Well, got my swabs out this PM - By the way Rog, you said yers cost you about 97 cents airmail? Mine cost 80 cents air mail - those dudes east of the big muddy got it made in the shade on postage!!

I got to thinkin about this DNA thang -- now what if those 5 brothers were 4 brothers and a first cousin?? The DNA thang would still be the same, wouldnt it, cause they had a common grandpa?? That would be difficult, to say the least, to fathom out..could still look like they had the same father, couldnt it?
For instance, again - lets say greatgrandpa had 1 son who had 5 sons, who had 5 sons who each had 5 sons who had 5 sons each - that DNA would have to be the same in each regardless of how many as long as that original common denominator was there, wherever it was and when - as I understand it anyway---

But what the heck, we gonna know if we real cuz anywya, right??

 


Thursday, November 13, 2003 at 16:36:51 (PST)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

Sam from what I understand Y-chromosome mutates about every 500 generations, a generation being between 21-25 years depending on who's page you are reading. You and I could very well have exactly the same markers if no mutations occurred, if, all our grandmothers were faithful (2-5 percent possibility each generation on infidelity according to the studies). However my son could possibly be the mutation (I think he is! LOL) and have one more or one less marker, yet you and I may match perfectly. Although Y-DNA is not used for paternal testing it will show a high probability that we are all related. Now, if there is a line way back with the mutated gene the descendants will also have that marker, which will show us that they are in a specific line. If there is two markers different it might show the connection was much further back?, if there is three markers different, pretty strong possibility hanky panky is involved. Regardless of how this turns out I'm happy to be here. I'd just hate to be the one who busts granny and start on a new genealogy.

 


Thursday, November 13, 2003 at 19:24:03 (PST)
Patsy Womack
womack97@pflash.com

Searching for information about Mary Merritt, born
April 1850 in TN. Married Thomas Jefferson Womack Sept. 18, 1883 in Gatesville, Coryell Co. TX. Parents were Brantly and Eleanor Merritt. Thomas Jefferson is buried in Clifton Cemetery, Clifton TX. Can't find Mary's death or burial.
Thanks for any information,

 


Sunday, November 16, 2003 at 21:46:45 (PST)
Robert Burke
robertburke@juno.com
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~reburke/lines/data/womack/index3.html

Quick Update on the Womack DNA Project:

The promotional period at DNA Heritage is over (ended on 16 Nov 2003), so the price for a test has gone up to 79 British pounds, about $135.00. Also the process to join the project has changed, the details are at the project web page address above. Basically, the change is that I will not be handling the money for any future tests. Instead, any future participants will be billed directly by DNA Heritage. The only reason I pre-paid for all the tests and asked that the money be sent to me was to assure that as many people as possible got the promotional group rate of 49 British pounds ($84.22). Anyhow, I will be glad to not have to deal with the money any longer.

I prepaid for a total of 14 tests. One was for myself, not as part of the Womack project, since my surname is Burke. Also, I have paid for another test for my grandmother's first cousin, who is a Womack male. I will be adding his details to the participants page as soon as he gets back with me that he wants to join the project.

Of the remaining 12 tests, 11 have been claimed. I have one extra test, and I'm trying to get in touch with someone who expressed some initial interest and give him the first chance at the test. If I do not hear back from him in a few days, I will offer this test (at the $84.22 rate) to the first taker.

 


Monday, November 17, 2003 at 06:28:57 (PST)
Al Womack
womack@one.net

Robert. I have sent the money order to your address this morning and an e-mail. I am not sure if I am one of the eleven or the extra one but I look forward to participating in this project. Thanks again for taking this on.

 


Tuesday, November 18, 2003 at 14:58:09 (PST)
Pamela Marler Gonzaels
PamTonyG@aol.com

I am the great great granddaughter of Lucrezia Wammack, daughter of Green Womack in Shelby Co. Ill. I contacted a few people a couple of years ago and I am embarrased to say that I lost the paperwork when we moved. Green Womack was married to a Polly Wallace. Could someone help me again by pointing me in the correct direction to research these people. Thanks

Pam

 


Wednesday, November 19, 2003 at 05:05:03 (PST)
Dorinda Bain
dorindabain2@yahoo.com

In Bristol, Liberty Co., Fl courthouse I found the estate inventory for Benjamin Wammack, his wife was listed as Nancy. It listed his date of death as 1859. Can anyone give me any further information they might have on these two individuals. Because the courthouse burned in the early 1900's I was unable to find birthdates or marriage dates for anyone.

Dorinda Bain

 


Wednesday, November 19, 2003 at 13:49:10 (PST)
Darrel and Judy Womack
jwma@comcast.net

Darrel's DNA kit was waiting when we got home from Mexico late Monday night. Was able to do the swabs this tue's morning 7:30am before breakfast & at 4:00pm, and in the mail as of noon today. So now we all wait and see what happen's next. Thanks for letting us be part of this group.
We have a new e-mail jwma@comcast.net

 


Wednesday, November 19, 2003 at 23:05:16 (PST)
Robert Burke
robertburke@juno.com
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~reburke/lines/data/womack/index3.html

Womack DNA Project Update

1) I slightly overestimated how many tests we would need, and I have one remaining pre-paid test at the promotional group rate of $84.22. After this test is gone, the price is $135.00. If anyone else would like to join the DNA project, please let me know. Remember, the person taking the test must be a male Womack (or some spelling variation of Womack). The first person who responds can get the last remaining pre-paid test for $84.22.

2) Alvis Womack, who is my grandmother's cousin, has let me know he will be part of the project. I had reserved a kit for him which I have paid for, but just now got the word he will join due to some email difficulties from my email provider, juno.

3) Thank you very much to all the participants so far for being prompt in sending me the payment for the tests. I have now received payment from everyone involved. I pre-paid for a total of 14 tests on my Visa card, and 13 are paid for. If someone gets the last remaining pre-paid test in the next couple weeks, I'll be able to pay the credit card with no interest!

 


Friday, November 21, 2003 at 12:18:36 (PST)
Dlynn Walker
dlynn_walker@yahoo.com

Is there anyone participating in the Womack DNA project who is a descendent of William Riley Womack married to Lucretia Taylor Womack?

They had one son that I know of John (Jack) Womack. My GG-grandmother was Rhoda Jane Womack, b1873 Cherokee county OK m. Eddie Lee Stevens, but the DNA requires a straight-male-line. I would like to know who's DNA tests I should be watching out for.

Thanks,
Dlynn

 


Friday, November 21, 2003 at 16:02:13 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Looks like they have Robert's, Roger's, Carlos' and my swabs as of now...this is going to be great!!

As far as William Riley below goes, what year was he born? I have one William Riley b. abt 1859, if he had a daughter born in 1873 - then was a young marriage - son of Cassandra Morris and John Hawkins Womack

 


Friday, November 21, 2003 at 16:04:06 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

sorry missed on the generation - the one I have cant be the one not if a granddaughter in 1873...

 


Friday, November 21, 2003 at 21:07:12 (PST)
Steve Womack
swomack@comcast.net

I mailed my swabs today. Little late because of being out of town.

 


Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 02:18:08 (PST)
Tracie WoMack Easterling
tlwe@bellsouth.net

Richard Womack, Jr. m. Elizabeth Puckett abt. 1705

I have the parents of Elizabeth Puckett as:

William Puckett and Anne Womack in one place and then a note that says her parents were: John Puckett and Elizabeth Allen.

Any help is appreciated in advance.

Thanks,

Tracie

 


Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 04:50:31 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Tracey,
I myself have John and Elizabeth Allen Puckett as her parents -- John was a Jr and brother to William who married Anne Womack - this is where you got them cuzzies marrying cuzzie and mixing it allup for us simple folks -- now these are my records and not necessarily right -- taken as given over the years --

Go here for Puckett research and it shows about the same thing I have --

http://users.aol.com/RKElliott/puckett.htm

Sam

 


Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 12:25:46 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Speaking of the Pucketts (I have her parents as William & Anne, btw) but has anyone tried to sort out some of this mess by looking at the Allens that all these folks seem to be marrying? Or is that just worse? LOL!

 


Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 16:06:33 (PST)
Sam
samsawqadee@cgmailbox.com

Anne
Worse

 


Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 16:52:36 (PST)
Tracie WoMack Easterling
tlwe@bellsouth.net

Sam and Ann....Thanks! And I will check out the link. I am also trying to find how the Kemph's tie into my line...I think my great grandmother was a Kemph. My dad's middle name is Kemph and I had a "aunt" named Callie Kemph. One great aunt thinks that she was my Great grandmother's neice....I am still waiting to for info from her.

 


Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 17:55:02 (PST)
Fred Womack
fredjudy@bellsouth.net

Tracie,

1`John Puckett,d 1679,m Ann
2 Mary Puckett,b1657,d 1Dec1692 m Richard Womack b1655,d1Oct1684
3 son of Mary & Richard Womack--Richard Womack,b1676 dMar1723m his 1st cousin,
Elizabeth Puckett. Elizabeth was dau of Thomas Puckett m Frances.(Mary
Puckett and Thomas Puckett were siblings).
4 Richard Womack b7Dec1710 d1791 was son of Richard Womack and Elizabeth
Puckett. He married Nancy "Ann" Childers b1714.

You will find documentation for most of this in the "Valentine Papers","Cherry Grove",and "Puckett Genealogy" by Gladys Hall Meir


Monday, November 24, 2003 at 04:09:38 (PST)
Rebecca Haden
chomphosy@aol.com

Sam posted a great message on the descendants of William Wommack and Margaret Ellis. I was excited to find my ancestor Richard on the list of their children. However, as I've been looking around for confirmation of this, I do not find him on anyone else's list of their kids. And I notice that, while there are many postings hither and yon on the web of William and Margaret's children, this posting has the others just listed as "unknown." So I'm assuming the listing of Richard is not from census or will records or other such lists. And then of course there is the postmortem marriage. Sam, I think you said that you were sent this data by someone else -- do you know where they got this? Or can anyone confirm that Richard Wommack b. 1804 was a son of William and Margaret? Thank you!

 


Monday, November 24, 2003 at 04:22:16 (PST)
Rebecca Haden
chomphosy@aol.com

Well, here's where I get a reminder not to post queries without checking my records first. Because as soon as I did, I was reminded that Richard Womack who married Elizabeth Hammond(s) was the son of Richard Womack and Catherine Streetman (he took his mother with him to Missouri, and there are records of her, so that's pretty certain). So I don't know whether the rest of the post was accurate or not, but that part wasn't. I keep hoping to find the parents of Richard who married Catherine Streetman, so my wishful thinking led me astray.

 


Monday, November 24, 2003 at 06:22:29 (PST)
Tracie Easterling
tlwe@bellsouth.net

Fred, Thanks for the info! I am going to search this morning for info on "Valentine Papers","Cherry Grove",and "Puckett Genealogy" by Gladys Hall Meir.


Monday, November 24, 2003 at 07:26:35 (PST)
Tracie WoMack Easterling
tlwe@bellsouth.net

While none of them currently tie into my lines that I can see, this cemetary listing has several Womacks, Kemps, and Allens.

http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/sthelena/cemeteries/grnbrg.txt

 


Monday, November 24, 2003 at 08:20:56 (PST)
Robert Burke
robertburke@juno.com
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~reburke/lines/data/womack/index3.html

Quick Update on the Womack DNA Project

1) The last of the 14 pre-paid testing kits was bought by Ernest Womack, so anyone who wishes to join the project will need to pay the normal group rate of 79 British pounds (about $135.00).

2) Of the 14 pre-paid tests, the one I am taking personally does not count toward the project's final report, because my surname is Burke, not Womack. The other 13 tests are for male Womacks (note that Brian Wommack spells his name with two m's). We also have Jack Womack's DNA test from his participation in the Blanton DNA project. So, we will have the test results from a total of 14 Womack males to compare, which is really great. Jack Womack, who is the co-administrator of the Womack DNA Project, will be helping with the analysis of the tests.

3) I saw at the DNA Heritage web site this morning that a lot of testing kits have been mailed back to DNA Heritage, which is great. We should start getting some results back in late December, or early January at the latest.

4) I'm driving to Florida tommorow (Tuesday) morning to spend Thanksgiving with my parents. I'll be back in Atlanta Sunday evening, and I will probably not be checking email until then.

Thank you to all the participants, and Happy Thanksgiving!

 


Monday, November 24, 2003 at 08:44:58 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Ref William and Margaret Ellis Womack info --
William and Margaret I know are correct - I know William was the son of Alexander Womack as his marriage bond was signed by his brother Jacob(my 4th)as the son of Alex. and thus should be Alex Jr --
Now whether the second marriage is correct is another subject - and there is an obvious discrepancy there -- as far as who gave me the information -- I think it was Jamie Womack Lawson a descendant of that line -- I no longer have her E mail unfortunately -- I was a bit then, and now and then still am, naive on recording who, what, where and when...

 


Monday, November 24, 2003 at 08:49:13 (PST)
latina jazippi
ljazippi@webtv.net

could someone tell me if judge Ralph Strother of waco texas and att Brian Howell of waco texas are somehow related or in a republican group together mayby freinds or use to be partners....

 


Monday, November 24, 2003 at 08:58:04 (PST)
latina jazippi
ljazippi@webtv.net

destany marie cumbo is not nohow related to BILL ADAMS....KATHLEEN ADAMS WACO TEXAS...D N A says that there in prison son for assalt of a pregnet woman and being a 26 yo adult sleeping with 12 13 14 yo girls is not a good thing

 


Monday, November 24, 2003 at 15:19:15 (PST)
Jean Benthien
jbenthie@ptloma.edu

My husband (George Womack Benthien)'s mother was Gladys Womack Benthien. She revealed very little about her family. Evidently was estranged from her father and sisters in either Mississippi or Tennessee. George is now 67 but we are interested in any information regarding his mother's side of the family. We truly know hardly anything. It is believed that her mother died young, sisters raised her and they lived on a farm. Have no other names. Thank you for any clues.

Jean Benthien

 


Monday, November 24, 2003 at 19:06:21 (PST)
Tracie WoMack Easterling
tlwe@bellsouth.net

Jean,

I have been there...with no leads and it is so very frustrating!

I have a Gladys Cleo Womack in my files. b. January 16, 1918 d. August 7, 1966.
Parents were Walter and Ruby. If this is her, let me know and I will e-mail you what I have.

Tracie

 


Tuesday, November 25, 2003 at 11:28:59 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Jean
Any idea of year of birth of Gladys??

 


Tuesday, November 25, 2003 at 12:29:48 (PST)
Al Womack
womack@one.net

I mailed my DNA swabs in yesterday 23 Nov 03, so one more in the mail.

 


Wednesday, November 26, 2003 at 05:18:30 (PST)
Bill Davidson
tunnelm@aol.com

Does anyone have information on Baker Davidson who married Elizabeth "Betsey/Betsy" Womack in 1795 in Prince Edward County, VA? Tignal Womack was listed as surety. Elizabeth was born about 1778 according to what I have found. I am trying to determine who Baker Davidson's parents were. Baker and Elizabeth named one of their children Archer, and I believe Elizabeth had one or more family members with that first name (Archer and/or Archerbald). It is Baker Davidson, however, that I really need to trace. Thanks so much!

 


Wednesday, November 26, 2003 at 15:28:17 (PST)
Nita Remphrey
ggnita@hotmail.com

HELLO, WHILE RESEARCHING MY FAMILY TREE, I FIND MY GGRANDPARENTS WERE ZACHARIAH
AND MIRA COBB. THEY HAD AT LEAST TWO CHILDREN, IDA B COBB CIRCA 1878 AND JACOB
R, COBB, CIRCA 1876 IN CADRON,FAULKNER,ARKANSAS. IF ANYONE HAS ANY INFORMATION
ON THIS FAMILY, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. IDA WAS MY GRANDMOTHER.

NITA REMPHREY, ggnita@hotmail.com

 


Sunday, November 30, 2003 at 11:44:35 (PST)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Beth Howser sent me some Womack info she obtained by searching - it appears the Public Records Office in UK has some info on line, specifically references to wills - I found this interesting as this gentleman was from the same area out elusive William was allegedly from --

Will of Robert Summerscales, Gentleman of Ashby Puerorum, Lincolnshire

These two were interesting also:
Will of Lawrence Womack, Clerk of North Lopham, Norfolk
Will of Lawrence Womock, Doctor in Divinity and by Divine permission
Bishop of Saint David in Wales
There were other Womack wills but mostly after these two and probably not of
much value to any of us..

Wills can be ordered on line for about 3lbs apiece from http://www.pro.gov.uk/
It appears they are downloadable ad the length of them are given in KB.


Sunday, November 30, 2003 at 11:59:32 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

I picked all three up along with William Womocke of Essex....I've got a broadband connection, so it's easy enough. Nice site, btw, wonderful addition to the previous indexing. I'll look em over - they are pdfs, and possibly post them over on my site or email them to interested parties - have to read the copying restrictions first. Ann

 


 Sunday, November 30, 2003 at 17:50:31 (PST)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

Looks like they've got a copyright notice on 'em, so I'll do my best to transcribe them and post 'em on my site. Wouldn't you know, the most interesting one, William's, is the hardest to read. No son William,, but apparently a nephew William son of George who was in England in 1657. Alas. Give me a while, the handwriting ranges from rotten to beautiful.

 


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