June 2003 Message Archive


Sunday, June 01, 2003 at 11:05:27 (PDT)
Madelyn Womack Cunningham
mcunnin8@bellsouth.net

Womack family reunion to be held in Nashville, TN , Saturday, June 21st at 7300 Charlotte Pike, West Nashville Moose Lodge. The lodge opens at 11. We will eat at 12:30. All Womacks (descendents) are invited. Bring enough food for your family and a few more. Hope to see many of you there. It is a very informative experience for those tracing their roots!


Wednesday, June 04, 2003 at 07:44:55 (PDT)
Connie Baumann
Littletn@aol.com

Sam,
The Charlie Womac (my Great Uncle) that Fran is speaking of is the son of William Ransom Womack & Rachel Howell Womack. Allie's (1900-1994) maiden name is Haven. My Mom knew her very well and never knew of any Cherokee or whatever connection. While she may be related to or descended from Native Americans, nothing in the census records show her to be NA, nor her parents. Of course, I am not saying she isn't, as I have no proof of that. It is doubtful the NA rumors come from this line though, as Charlie was not born until 1898 and died in 1986. Seems there will always be rumors of Indian blood. That is the "in" thing today. I would be proud to be of NA, Scottish, Irish, whatever descendancy, as long as there is proof ...Connie

 


Thursday, June 05, 2003 at 06:57:46 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

MaMa Teressa
Empty yer mailbox, e mail keeps coming back and you are never home when I call to let you know this --

 


Thursday, June 05, 2003 at 09:45:13 (PDT)
M. Blankenship
bab1971@peoplepc.com

I have information back until the 1600's, but am still trying to fill in some gaps. If I can help, I will. Just email me!

Does anyone know the names of any of the 7 of Judge Beasley Womack's Children?
Judge was born about 1890.

 


Thursday, June 05, 2003 at 10:09:07 (PDT)
Marlyne Natali
marlynen@hotmail.com

I am trying to find out more information on Sarah Womack, born somewhere between 1712 and 1730 in VA. She married James Archdeacon Cody around 1729, in (possibly) Halifax, VA. She died in 1795 in Warrenton, Warren, GA and is burined beside her husband in the Cody Cemetery, Warrenton, Warren Co., GA.

Leads say that her father was Richard Womack whose father was Abraham Womack, but I have no proof of this. Would appreciate any help in finding out more about her parents/siblings/etc.

 


Thursday, June 05, 2003 at 12:16:21 (PDT)
Jeannie
jsturm@intercommunications.com

Hello Womacks! I was able to get a little further on my Womack line (my mother) with great help from Roger. I'm still stuck in the same place and hoping someone might be able to steer me in the right direction.

My deadend is with John W. Womack/Wommack (of course, the "John" is a big help). Born Sept. 28, 1833 in AL (according to census); died Jan 30 1884 in Grayson Co, TX. His wife was Mary C. Weed, born Oct. 18, 1835 TN; died Oct. 27, 1923 TX. They were married in Chattahoochee Co, GA on Nov. 25, 1855. I'm wondering if their marriage liscence might list his parents' info or county of birth?

The only other clues I have are that John W. listed his parents as both being born in NC on a Texas census (again, not original info that helps much!). I was told John W.'s mother was a "Kelly" from Ireland. Also, there were a couple of other Womacks who were married in Chattahoochee Co, GA, so I thought if anyone had info on them, I might be able to find a link. Gaston Womack married Sarah J. Outlaw July 31, 1859 and an A.J. Womack married L.R. Womack Nov. 12, 1867. I'd hoped since Gaston is a more unique name than John or Mary, I could get somewhere, but I haven't. I found them on an 1880 Brownville, Lee Co, AL census, but that's it.

John and Mary Womack had about 10 kids, including my great-grandfather Joseph Lee Womack. I've filled those blanks in pretty well, but I can't get anywhere on John W.'s parents.

If anyone can help out here, I'd really appreciate it. If you're part of the same line, I'd be happy to share info.

Great site, Sam. Cheers!

Jeannie


Thursday, June 05, 2003 at 14:55:57 (PDT)
Tracie WoMack Easterling
tlwe@bellsouth.net

I FINALLY FOUND MY BRANCH!!! Many of you know I have posted several times off and on hoping to find my Womack branch. Today I located a great-aunt! She has a list of the family and their birth/death dates! I am so excited! I am sending her a SASE and she is sending me a copy of it! I never thought I would find my family, but I did!!!

Tracie WoMack Easterling

 


Friday, June 06, 2003 at 12:31:25 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Jeannie
Found this dont know if much help tho:

Name: Gaston Womack
Sex: M
Birth: 1848
Father: Abner Womack b: 1825
Mother: Sarah Unknown b: ABT. 1826


Monday, June 09, 2003 at 07:59:18 (PDT)
Jeannie
jsturm@intercommunications.com

Thanks for checking, Sam. The dates don't fit for an 1859 marriage, but I'll add the info to my files in case I can find a connection.
Let me know if you come across anything else that could be helpful!
Jeannie

 


Monday, June 09, 2003 at 13:30:49 (PDT)
SAMANTHA (JOLI) ROE BOONE WOMACK
jerra@awesomenet.net
awesomenet

ok, here goes...HELLO, IM MARRIED TO A WOMACK, WHOS GRAND PARENTS ARE, JOHN THOMAS WOMACK (BUD)AND ANNIE MCCLENDON.. WHO HAD SEVERAL CHILDREN., WEYMAN WOMACK, BETTIE LEE, NATH, (WHO HAS PASSED ON),. AND SOME OTHERS, I THINK. NATH WOMACK, FROM WHAT I HEARD DIDNT HAVE A MIDDLE NAME , SO HE ADDED AN "C" AS CROCKETT FOR HIS MIDDLE NAME.,HE MARRIED ALMA LOUISE BUCHANAN, THEY HAD 7 CHILREN..,PATRICIA ANN WOMACK (female)11/11/1950, ALMA NADINE WOMACK (female)11/07/1956, MARYBETH WOMACK (female)05/06/1957, NATH C, WOMACK JR.(male) 07/?/0/? , RICHARD GLENN WOMACK (male)7/04/1960? TRACY LYNN WOMACK(male)08/?/1966, RALPH EARL WOMACK(male)12/31/1971, who is my husband.WE HAVE TWO BOYS AND ONE ON THE WAY, (GENDER UNKNOWN AS OF YET).ELIJAH EARL WOMACK (MALE)03/09/1998, RILEY RALPH WOMACK(MALE)04/14/2001. OOOOOOOKKKKKK THATS DOES IT , ANY ONE CAN EMAIL US AT JERRA @AWESOMENET .NET TOOTLES


Monday, June 09, 2003 at 14:50:43 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

I have just returned from a Google search on a particular Womack - what I found there really saddened me and also makes me somewhat angry that some Womack researchers have taken, mostly verbatim, my web pages and and assigned them as their own -- I didnt mind leaving that info out there for people to use in research and in personal genealogies; but I did not put it there to be incorporated into other web pages - linked to, yes; but not the way it turned out. Subsequently, with a few exceptions, I will be downing all of them except for name indexes - I will continue to exchange information, but on a "you show me yours, and I will show you mine" basis.


Monday, June 09, 2003 at 19:25:46 (PDT)
Becky
Beckymoonboots@comcast.net

Hello, I am trying to verify and find our more information on my great, great grandmother Margaret Martha Womack. From the information I have:
Margaret Martha Womack b. abt 1836 or 2-5-1835 Nc.
married Joseph LeQuire b. 1830 Rutherford Co. Nc.
They were married on 10-11-1852 in Rutherford Co. Nc.
I have the parents of Margaret as:
Willis Womack b. abt.1802 Rutherford Co. Nc. who married Phebe Green b. abt. 1812 Nc.
I also have record of Margaret that she is buried at the Methodist Church, Cades Cove, Tn. 12-18-1909.
Can any one tell me if this information goes together. Also I am having a hard time finding any information on Phebe Green. Thank you and I love the Womack website.

 


Monday, June 09, 2003 at 20:00:05 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

After some deep soul searching and thought - I must insist that my e mail, URL, name and so on as a researcher on WGN be removed --

I was here, somewhat, when Mark first started this. I provided the original scan on the old Womack Genealogy (over 180 hours scanning and etc); Cherry Grove, close to 100 hours working that, Close to 200 hours on The descendants of Thomas and Louvisa, and countless hours working with others on web pages and sending and posting information

I was cursed by someone, and too many agreed with that person even tho I either posted or emailed the original play by play, I was the the one in the wrong - I was high maintenace, hard to get along with...

I see some here busting their butts while there are supposedly over 500 researchers, I laugh and scoff at that, that is a joke - there are less than 20 decent researchers listed on WGN - that is not good - and yes, I have been castigated for bringing this up before - but if the truth hurts so be it!! you dont like what I say, prove me wrong - I havent yet been...

Those of you who are just starting - dont be taken aback by these words - contribute; but cautiously - never give more than you receive..

I worked my butt off on what I did and instead of linking to my pages, they were copied as someone elses - quite tacky I must say..

To those of you who have stayed in contact throughout the past x number of years, you have my e mail - stay in contact and will share as you - but I will be danged if I post another tidbit here nor post on one of my webpages ..


Monday, June 09, 2003 at 21:28:08 (PDT)
Tracie WoMack Easterling
tlwe@bellsouth.net

Sam,

I for one think that is sad. While I have not been able to contribute to this Board yet ( I just found a link to my branch last week); I have shared info with others on other surnames in my family.

I think it is rude to take someone else's work and post it as your own and not give the credit where it is due. I personally have had to rely many times on the generosity of others; and am incredibly grateful for their help. I haven't had the money or time to do a lot of the research and I admire and appreciate those who did and then kindly share. After building up my tree on other branches, I never hesitated to pass on what I had freely to others. I thought that was part of the genealogy hunt. Everyone shares what they can and before you know it, everyone has incredible trees and they know where they belong.

Tracie


Monday, June 09, 2003 at 22:01:27 (PDT)
SAMANTHA (JOLI) ROE BOONE WOMACK
jerra@awesomenet.net
awesomenet

dont know what that is all about, im not here to cause waves or what ever, we dont know who john thomas ( bud) womack.,,the only name for his father that we come up with is (buck)??? buck womack? we cant or havent gotton any further than that. oooookkkkk thanks for any info .

 


Tuesday, June 10, 2003 at 06:48:45 (PDT)
sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Samantha and Tracey
This is not about you - continue as you are- continue to contribute when and where you can - it was not, nor is it meant to scare you off...I will still help, albeit privately via email..

 


Tuesday, June 10, 2003 at 07:13:44 (PDT)
Judy Womack
jamw@jps.net

SAM

It is a very sad to have you leave WGN. We need you as a watch dog. Not all agreed with you , but thats what research is about. I feel sorry for those that have to ride on others works to get fame.
I for one sign on to WGN every morning to see what you have to say. You are a true reseacher, wanting to get the true facts, we need more like you.

I for one wish to thank you for the information and for all the help You have given the WGN. We all will miss you,keep an eye on us... THANK YOU

 


Tuesday, June 10, 2003 at 11:34:44 (PDT)
Dlynn Walker
dlynn_walker@yahoo.com

I have just started genealogy this year. I have taken all info I have from the internet. Some from other researchers, some from census data, anywhere and everywhere I can find it.

My hope is to compile all the data I can and then check the research for myself.

I am sorry that someone posted your data as thier own and I respect that you choose only to give data out a little at a time.

Many persons charge for this data. I am also sorry that you are choosing to reduce the data that you offer because of a few who abuse your generosity.

Maybe you should check with the individuals (heck I could be one)

I know I have found a lot of ged files on the internet and downloaded pieces of them and one "free" software asked if you wanted to put your index or pedigree on a page. I said yes and it created an html page. I have not advertised the page and have no idea if your data is included in my stuff because frankly I just grabbed everything I could get my hands on.

I don't know if ,y "page" can even be seen by others, but I will hunt it down and delete it just in case.

It could be that you are talking about someone who deliberately copied the data and then reformatted it and put thier name on it. I don't know.

As a beginner I am hungry for information and I often wish others would make available what they have.

I would share freely if I had anything someone else did not have.

I have not been reading these postings very long, but I know that you contribute much and I want to apologize on behalf of myself and anyone else who might have accidentally offended you or used your data out of misguidance instead of out-right stealing.

Keep those of us who are trying to learn to be researchers in your mind and in your heart and forgive us our ignorance as we try to learn the art/science of genealogy research.


Tuesday, June 10, 2003 at 12:17:33 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@cgmailbox.com

Dlynn,
I am not talking about info included in a GEDCOM - that cannot be helped as we all know it -- those GEDCOMs on LDS Site is there for the taking, we cant help that - its the comments type stuff - copies of letters I have received from others - and my first person comments - pages that I have made and others had linked to, man are no longer linked but on other web pages as well as mine --
that is the stuff I am talking about -- You know no one else has an Arkansas page, yet I found many things from mine elsewere as someone elses -
Anyway - I am not trying to deter anyone from research, nor taking info for PERSONAL use -- or gain whether it is for profit or for prestige -- My UK page will remain open - Roger and others gave me most of that info anyway; and some is linked to Roger's pages - however there is some that I did the main research on there also - so far that hasnt been a problem it is just the first person sor of personal stuff that got to me --- continue your research as you have and dont worry about the past -- I can shape my own future on this addiction of ours -

And Judy thank you for your kind comments - I will work with You and others individually --

 


Tuesday, June 10, 2003 at 12:19:21 (PDT)
SAMANTHA (JOLI) ROE BOONE WOMACK
jerra@awesomenet.net
awesomenet

oops. i see i messed up on a post, does any one know or heard of a BUCK WOMACK and poss. his ancestors?we havent anything to go on other than JOHN THOMAS (BUD) AND BUCK WOMACK..??//my husband and his sibs, are wantint to find out about their grandparents and so on. thats all.Mr. JACK THANKS FOR THE INFO.

 


Tuesday, June 10, 2003 at 13:50:34 (PDT)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

I have John Thomas Womack's father was John Madison Womack, his father was Abner John Womack Aka: Abner Jack (John) Womack, or Albert Jackson. It seems several family members have different names for him, also Andrew Jackson Womack. His father David Womack, Jr. Get in touch I would be glad to share info with you.


Tuesday, June 10, 2003 at 19:40:44 (PDT)
David Dunn
dadunn@gis.net

Sam. Please don't go from these pages. About my email I have two accounts and when I migrate from south to north or vice versa two things happen. One I'm outta touch for a while; two, sometimes stuff gets confused (owing to my incompetence). Anyway leaving for UK in a week and will be in Norfolk for reasearch. Record Office closed but another research office open has Parish Registers and Wills. ANYBODY: tell me what to look for. Will look at wills and parish records where Rev. Henry was. Anything else, Sam, Roger, Ann? David.

 


Wednesday, June 11, 2003 at 06:54:15 (PDT)
dlynn walker
dlynn_walker@yahoo.com

I found that I have several Womack lines. Thomas A. and Louvisa Rice Womack Appear to be the parents of Lucindia (Lucy) Womack who married a William Womack.

I don't know about his line. Then Levi Berry Womack married martha Bean who's mother was Martha womack and who's father was robert bean

Levi berry Womack and Martha Bean were the parents of William Riley Womack b 1826.

Remember that I have not verified any of this, it is only data pulled from other sources. I think sam or someone else from the site sent me info on another William Riley Womack, but his birth was off by about 20 years making it impossible to marry and have children by the dates I have listed for births.

What I do know for sure is that William Riley Womack married Lucretia Taylor womack and had Rhoda Jane Womack who is my great-great-grandmother.

thanks,
Dlynn


Wednesday, June 11, 2003 at 07:00:49 (PDT)
Dlynn Walker
dlynn_walker@yahoo.com

OOPS,

I forgot my primary question. I have seen Louvisa Rice Womack listed as born in Ireland.

Does anyone know more about this?


Wednesday, June 11, 2003 at 07:20:42 (PDT)
Dlynn Walker
dlynn_walker@yahoo.com

I don't know if this helps or just takes up space, but I did get several messages about my line from the archives in 1998 and 1999. I know this is the correct William Riley Womack becuase I have a history written by my great-grandmother and some census data.

Sunday, May 16, 1999 at 21:31:52 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com
Brenda you may want to take a good look at Jesse son of William and Lucretia.
I don't have much on this line but someone may.

William R.Womack was born 1826 in TN, and died Abt. 1900 in Benton Co., AL. He married Lucretia Taylor December 30, 1857 in Benton Co., AL. She was born abt1830

Marriage Notes for WILLIAM WOMACK and LUCRETIA TAYLOR:
Wife: Lucretia TAYLOR
Marriage Date: 30 Dec 1847 Recorded in: Calhoun, Alabama
Source: FHL Number 1035493

Benton Co., AL., became Calhoun Co., AL.

Children of WILLIAM WOMACK and LUCRETIA TAYLOR are:
i. ELIZABETH SAMANTHA WOMACK,
ii. SOPHRONA WOMACK,
iii. JOHN WOMACK,
iv. ROBERT WOMACK,
v. GEORGE WOMACK
vi. MARTHA WOMACK,
vii. JESSE WOMACK,
viii. MARY WOMACK,
ix. RHODA J. WOMACK,
x. MYRTLE WOMACK,

Date: Jun 4, 1998; 00:45
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net
HI, Just received some Womack marriages from AL in the mail today--know not complete but at least some thing On this William R and Levi B thang..there was a William R married in Benton Co AL Dec 30, 1847 to a Lucretia Taylor--if he had chillun earlier this prob isnt him unless a 2nd wife...There was an LB Womack married Mary Rodden in Jackson Co on Apr 13, 1853. My G-Gf was married in Jackson Co in 1881--He went from TN to relatives there. Not sure of their relationship tho..but can bet cousins were involved if not an uncle or two!! Will have this on line as soon as can retype--my scanner notorious for not doing columns right--I have both a Brides and Grooms list and they are alpha rather than by county--also we must keep in mind this is not a complere list--I also have the list of the "burned" counties for AL and the years of the "burns." That will go out about the same time. Hey, someone made an offer of lookups and so on in a chat, I took it to heart!! Ennyone got CD-3 fom FT--would appreciate a download of all spellings of ouah bunch and sending them to me to add to the page..that is one I dont have! CD3 got SC/GA/AL as I remember--


Wednesday, June 11, 2003 at 19:09:12 (PDT)
Dave Schoff
rdschoff@airmail.net

Sam,
I too hate to see you go. I have learned much from you and the Old Pro. It was from you that I learned to be sure to obtain a copy of any document that provided information on my line. By searching out documents and not just taking someone's word (not to say that I discount what people tell me, I just try to document it.), I foun a great uncle that died while on active duty in the US Army in 1937, and was buried in an unmarked grave. I found his grave and am in the process of obtaining a headstone from the VA. While I do not really consider myself a Womack Researcher like you, Roger, David and others; nor am I in the class of Jack, I am trying to follow my line and document everything that I can. I am always eager to share what I have with anyone and as I learned from you, anything that I receive from anyone else I ensure that I annotate them as the source. Please keep in touch, don't leave us neophytes stranded out here.
Dave

 


Thursday, June 12, 2003 at 09:38:02 (PDT)
Jack Womack
oldpro

Hey Samuel
I don't want to see you pull out of the WGN, you are much needed and appreciated. If it wasn't for guys like you, Roger, Ray Bryan, Ann and other active researchers a lot of newbies are going to be set back months/years in their work. I have been guilty of taking excerpts from others GEDs to use in my own. Altho I have never published a page on the web but if I do you can be darn sure someones going to get credit where credit is due. Heck I still see info out there that is wrong becaused it was copied from some one else. We all know it hurts when someone "gedjacks" your work. (new word for the genealogy dictionary) I just chalk it up as a don't know, don't care or oversite. I get my info from where ever i can amd some of it has been from you and you can rest assured if I publish it yer agonna get the credit so hang in there old soldier and remember "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do" I still want us to publish a page on the Dna thang.

 


Thursday, June 12, 2003 at 11:24:04 (PDT)
Jackie
pearre@comcast.com

SAM..... I too hope that you stay with this site.PLEASE DON'T ABANDON US!!!

You were the one that told me you had photos of my gr gr grandfather and mother...William and Lovina Womack in WI.
Wm was from Lynchburg, Campbell Co., VA
And that was such a wonderful gift to me. Thank You!!! You also gave me great advice on what program to buy because, I am new to genealogy.

Between you and Roger I have found a lot of info on the family. You Guys really encouraged me to go on searching.Just by you posting your information and guide lines.

I also respect your infomation Sam, because it has to be correct,and all web sites need some one to make sure that what is posted is the truth, "as much as they know it", and not someones inmagination.
I know the rest of you guys help also,and Thank you.This has taken a lot of your time and hard work.

I can tell anyone to go to the WOMACK site and I am not embarrassed about what is posted.I have confidences that the information is as accurate as possible.

Thank You All,
Jackie

 


Thursday, June 12, 2003 at 19:11:18 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

well, bummer! I'm so sorry Sam. I know I was seriously bummed about 4 months ago when I happened to search on I think it was ancestry or genealogy.com and found someone had - despite my serious serious warnings not to do so - uploaded my McDonald family file as their own. And how can I tell it's mine? Well, because there is an error in there...and it's my error and my notes - which frankly make no sense to someone other than me. At least my Womack site is so feeble that no one has swiped it. Bummer on the webpages Sam, because I always checked your indexes when starting a new branch search.

Anyway, sorry to have been so quiet the last few months, although I've emailed and snail mailed a few folks. I've been working on my McDonalds. You have absolutely no idea how many revolutionary war era McDonalds there were in GA, SC and NC.

David, I hope Sam has the list of what he already got (and I think I owe you some money Sam!) I'll have to look in my stack of papers over there to see if I can find that printout with the wills....because I'm not finding a list quickly on the access to archives site. I think there are a couple of wills, couldn't swear to it though. Let me go see if I can find it on ancestry....these might be the ones Sam got though...Sam help! A will in 1585, a will in 1572....I'll have to go look at my old papers. Ann


Thursday, June 12, 2003 at 19:25:42 (PDT)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

I donít want to see anyone leave WGN, I know it can be frustrating when you give folks information and they donít get back in touch, or they take information and post it as their own. I just choose not to get rattled about it. I know new researchers often donít realize how important it is to source information, they just find something and are excited to find it and post it, theyíll learn the etiquette as time goes on, if they get serious about genealogy research. We have over 500 researchers listed on WGN but like anything else in life only a small percentage really do much, it just numbers. Get involved in some type of MLMarketing, it donít take long to figure out how few do anything. Some donít post information because they donít have much or think its not important, I just want to encourage folks to post what you have, there may be a clue that will make the connection and repost if you donít get a response, not everyone reads the archives. Then there are those who do it for profit and they donít care what they take and use. I put a lot of info on the net and I share a lot of family information privately from my personal database. I realize some will use it and share what they have, others will claim it as their own, and some just donít have a clue where they got the information. I often find my data on the net and usually there is something added that I didnít have so it serves me also. I know I feel differently about this subject than others, I just donít care if they take all my web pages and post them, it would be nice if they were sourced but if I fall over dead I hope someone has a back up because Iím not counting on my family to carry on. I do this because I enjoy it and my joy and payment is when I hear stories of how happy someone is because we made connections for them. Donít let a few bad apples steal your joy, and POST, POST, POST.

 


Friday, June 13, 2003 at 12:20:40 (PDT)
Ann McDonald

Well, this is what I get for not paying attention
Marlyne, Well, here's the thing. If you had two siblings, James and Margaret Archdeacon - who marry two Womacks, Sarah and Richard IV - whose parents are invariably given as Richard and Ann - what are you betting that these two Womacks were siblings or cousins? We know who Richard IV's parents were - there was a lawsuit over distibution of Richard IV's property when both he and his child died, leaving Margaret a widow with no kids, and it names Richard III the father as giving land to Richard IV. Richard III did not leave a will, and died in GA.

Now, this is your basic cautionary tale. I can't for sure tell you who this Sarah's parents were - most of Richard III's family is pieced together by inference - to make up an example - Abraham's daughter marries a cousin. The cousins mother Martha was a Womack. Well, we're thinking here Abraham and Martha were brother and sister, until shown otherwise. Personally, I'm still trying to find 3 of Abraham's kids, so I haven't quite hopped up one generation to try and unscramble more of Richard III's family.

Here's the point - you either need to research this point to your satisfaction, or find someone with original documentary proof of the point -don't believe someone who would look it up in a compiled genealogy and say "well, such and such book says Abraham's son" unless that book has some documents you can go look at. You've got two possible families - Richard III, and Richard son of Abraham - both apparently had wives named Ann. Richard III's family ended up mostly in GA.

I'm suspicious about this particular link to Richard son of Abraham. I've never seen any documentation on it. I haven't done ANY research on it myself, but in there on my notes of "THINGS TO DO" for Richard III's family is to check and see which family that Sarah really belongs to. I'm not saying AT ALL, that it isn't Richard son of Abraham's family. Just that a) I'm suspicious by nature and b) I've seen nothing that can prove it one way or the other.
Sorry to be a downer! Ann

 


Friday, June 13, 2003 at 18:28:18 (PDT)
David Dunn
dadunn@gis.net

Ann. Not sure why you are talking about the parentage of Sarah Womack Cody but anyone interested in the subject might want to read my Womacknet messages of 23, 24, and 26 October 1998 along with help from you and other stalwarts (e.g. Sammers please stay) at the same time. David.

 


Saturday, June 14, 2003 at 15:04:55 (PDT)
Ann McDonald
quiltdog@yahoo.com

David, the most frightening thing about your message is that it proves that the Cody thing has been on my list of stuff to look up for 5 years. Did we ever find a nice little document mentioning these guys with any relationships listed? Anyway, if you scroll down the recent messages - Marlyne was asking about these various folks. Deep down I have a gut feeling that Sarah Cody was the daughter of Richard III. Either that, or they are following his family around for some other inexplicable reason. I just wish that someday I can find a thing that says "to my sister Sarah Cody I leave a goat." Sam says he gave you the details on 2 wills in Norfolk that I was thinking of, plus a couple more. Ann

 


Saturday, June 14, 2003 at 18:09:38 (PDT)
David Dunn
dadunn@gis.net

Ann and Sam. Well I am as convinced as I will ever be, from all the evidence in my postings of October 1988, that Sarah was the daughter of Richard III. Maybe she was a poor orphan niece, but she must have been closely related. True I wish there was a goat, but there are about 20 documents with a (less conclusive) connection, which add up to a kid (sorry I couldn't resist that). And yes I have the two will references from Sam. Will report when I return. David.

 


Sunday, June 15, 2003 at 08:50:52 (PDT)
Teresa Brewer
motherteressa2002@yahoo.com

Dearest Sam,

I sure hope you are still reading the posts. I don't have your phone number since you moved, but I'd like to return your call. Since my return from being out of town when you called me, I've been swamped. Please get ahold of me (I know, I know, you're frustrated with my mail, but honestly I get around 300 junk mails daily. I empty it nearly every day, sometimes twice a day.

I hereby make a personal plea to you my dear double cuz (Womack and Brewer), as a newly found member of the Thomas and Louvisa Rice branch of our awsome family, NOT to depart! You have every right to be angry as this is truly an issue of integrity between members of our family. But Sam, those like me whom are new to this type of research truly need and adore you! You bring personality and life to these pages and not seeing your words here is indeed a very sad thought!

 


Sunday, June 15, 2003 at 09:01:06 (PDT)
Barbara Barkley
rsbarbara@earthlink.net

I'm trying to trace my ggrandmother's family. Her name was Annie Womack who was married to Frank Walker Barkley. I thought I had the correct information but I got a letter from a woman that states that the child Annie Womack born to Alexander Preston Womack and Flora Cloud was married to a man named Charley Kinkade. Had she been married to this man prior to Frank walker Barkley or are there two Annie Womacks born in 1872. (She died in 1936)Does anyone know, I would appreciate any information. Thanks, Barbara

 


Saturday, June 28, 2003 at 08:21:01 (PDT)
Mark Womack
markwomack@womacknet.com

Hi everyone, the WGN researchers list has been updated. Roger and I are in the process of "weeding out" researchers listed with incorrect email addresses, etc. So, please take a moment to check your listing and send us an email with any updated information.

Thanks,
-Mark

 


Saturday, June 28, 2003 at 08:51:15 (PDT)
Mark Womack
markwomack@womacknet.com

Just some thoughts about the recent comments regarding the WGN and participation.

The key goal of the WGN is communication. It does this in three major ways. 1) It provides this message page and a complete archive of every message every posted. 2) It provides for a list of researchers, sorted by researcher name or location of ancestors that just about anyone can register with. 3) It provides a repository of Womack genealogy information and articles that anyone with enough gumption can contribute to.

A Womack researcher can choose to participate in any of the above ways, at any level they want. Lots of people post messages to the message board. Some number register their information to be listed as a "member". And a fewer number submit information and articles to be stored in the repository. The WGN has greatly benefited from the this participation, at all levels. As such, no judgement has ever been made about how "committed" someone is or isn't. People do what they can for what they have time for, and everyone benefits from it.

I can't tell you how many times we have gotten emails about how someone found information about a long lost ancestor. Or found a fellow researcher that was a long lost cousin. This is all because the WGN is out there and supports the various types of communication and people participate.

My personal satisfaction, now that I don't have as much time to devote to my own Womack research, is that I can help facilitate everyone else to do their own research by maintaining the WGN site. And even then Roger has taken over a lot of the day to day maintanence, for which we are all grateful for.

And even though Roger (and I) "run" the WGN web site, I cannot emphasize enough that the WGN is a collective effort. It is only as strong as the participation that people put into it. If no one posted messages, if no one registered themselves as members, if no one contributed articles and information, then the WGN would be just another one of those lonely web sites that no one bothered to maintain and it would eventually die and go away, and all the information with it. Yeah, some emails are old and don't work anymore, some of the information might be incorrect (even though we try hard). But it is out there to be found.

We are all fortunate that some people have chosen to participate at higher levels than most, and we all benefit. Just as we have benefited from the Womack Genealogy Newsletters from the 50's (and from Sam scanning them into the comuputer, and from the WGN posting them on the web), we benefit from today's participation right now, and others will be benefit from it in the future. This blessing is significant, and I for one, have much gratitude towards all of you.

Anyway, I hope that everyone continues to enjoy the web site and chooses to particpate as much as the can and like.

Continued luck with your research,
-Mark

 


Saturday, June 28, 2003 at 19:37:32 (PDT)
Randall W. Connell
RWC5C@aol.com

I am seeking information on Hattie Lee Connell Womack who died in Comanche County Texas (DeLeon, TX) on October 3, 1911. She died in a hospital there. Her husband was Phillip Samuel Womack. Hattie was taken to Morgan TX (Bosque County) for burial. Any obituaries or other information very much appreciated. Thanks.

 


Saturday, June 28, 2003 at 20:47:03 (PDT)
Danny Womack
plowhorse@alltel.net

Just want to express my appreciation for the WGN,for Mark, Roger and others who have and who continue to exert much time and energy for all the purposes this web-site serves. The faces of reward for giving are many. All of which may not can be appreciated or even recognized but one that smiles will cause all the rest to become hard to remember.
Thanks to all, Danny

 


Monday, June 30, 2003 at 21:24:11 (PDT)
Connie Baumann
Littletn@aol.com
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/a/u/Connie-J-Baumann/index.html?Welcome=1057033044

Hi Mark,
Great to hear from you. I for one am still grateful for the long ago day I received your e-mail about starting up this site. Like some others, I don't actively post much anymore, but I still get LOTS of private e-mails/queries from the Womack researchers who visit the WGN, and I still read all the posts weekly. The WGN has come a long way, thanks to the efforts of you, and the many researchers.

Sincerely,
Connie Baumann

 


Monday, June 30, 2003 at 21:28:20 (PDT)
Connie Baumann
Littletn@aol.com

By the way, what has happened to the Vital Records (obits and such) that use to be on the site? I contributed quite a few myself, and when I sent a researcher to the site to look through them, she said the records were no longer there. The link says page not found? Thanks!

Connie

 


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