April 2003 Message Archive

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 08:48:47 (PST)
Keith Womack

someone in my family (I think my mom) said that the Womacks are related to nobles. Is this true?

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 08:57:59 (PST)
Keith Womack

Is it true that the Womack family is related to nobles?

Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 06:03:01 (PST)

There was a statement made by someone once that there was an Earl of Edinburgh who was beheaded sometime in the 1300's that was a Womack - and that his family fled across the channel to Holland -- I have searched and searched and can find no reference to such an earl; nor any reference to one Womack in Scotland until around the late 1800's and he was just across the border from England -- So, the tale may be one of those wannabees like a full blooded cherokee named Womack(which is impossible by the way, unless one was adopted, and still yet the anglo blood wouldnt flow)! There are Womacks, registered as Cherokees and Choctaws; however these are by marriage..one of my web pages lists all that I have found that fit this category so far from the Dawes and Guinon Rolls.
Take all such claims with many grains of salt.....

Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:56:08 (PST)
Diana Lynn Walker
hope to post one soon

I am looking for additional information on this line.

William Riley Womack
married Lucretia TAYLOR 30 DEC 1847 in BENTEN CO, ALABAMA
Rhoda Jane Womack Married Eddie Lee Stevens
b18 dec 1872 scottsboro, jackson, Al

John (Jack) WOMACK.
1920 Census Riley and Alice
Possibly another child named Riley? listed in the 1900 census in eastland Co tx with his mother and living next door to sister and broher in law
b jackson County Alabama

Laura Womack 1878 Jackson Co Al d tx 1911 hess Jackson OK married Adolpus A Stevens 11 NOV 1900 lived in comanchee and hill co TX

Laura was daugher of John/jack Womack (Rhoda's brother) and Adolpus was Eddie Lee's half-brother

This is all I have so far. Lucretia and William Womack are my ggg-grandparents

Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:17:55 (PST)
Jack Womack

Diana Lynn Walker
Your E-Mail address is not working. I have info for you E mail me.

Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:08:47 (PST)
Diana Lynn Walker

Sorry about the email address. There is a typo this is the correct address.

jack, Thanks for the info. I haven't digested it all yet.

Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 09:51:31 (PST)

have picture of Oscar Womack, Charles Meadows, a Martin unknown and a totally unknown. not sure when taken, except early 1900's, not sure where, but was in box with mostly Tennessee photos. it was given to me needs home

Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 16:10:02 (PST)
David Wayne Womack

Hello all,
I am looking (still) for information on my Grandfather's father. Here is what I know so far:
My Grandfather:
Granville (Grant) Curtis Womack
b. June 24, 1912 in Fannin County, Texas
d. August 27, 1966 in Dallas, Texas
m. Vada (Lavetta?) Christine Swindell
His mother was Birdie Elnora Bell born October 12, 1898 in Texas, died November 12, 1966 in Fannin County, Texas.
All I know about his father is that his last name was Womack and he was called Joe. Based on discusion with older family members, I do not believe they were ever married.
If anyone could help me with this, I would certainly appreciate it.
David W. Womack

Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 16:48:17 (PST)

You sent mail to an old addy which was forwarded - I tried to reply with good addy for you; but yours came back from AOL as unknown - wanna try again with this one?????

Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 16:57:33 (PST)

I am looking for ANY info on Richard Moore who married Desdemonia Womack on 1/9,1812. They had 10 children. I need info on Richard Moore as he is related to my husband's family......Any help would be great. EMAIL ME


Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 17:58:31 (PST)
Diana Lynn Walker

I have a photo of Rhoda Jane Womack and Eddie Lee Stevens taken 1901 with first two children.

Exact date uncertain, but child was born feb 1901 and it is less than 1 year I think.


Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 08:24:21 (PDT)
Tracie W. Easterling

VIRUS WARNING!! Someone is using the Names MarkWomack and OldPro and sending e-mails with viruses. I know that no one here would that, but but it seems someone is picking up names from the board to use in the From section of the e-mail and then apparently picking up e-mail addys from our posts. Because the names looked familiar, I tried to open them.

Fortunately, my virus guard caught them. Please be careful everyone and if you haven't lately...UPDATE your virus protectors NOW!!!

Again, I know that no one from here would send that, but I thought you should all be aware of it.

Tracie W. Easterling

Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 20:54:09 (PDT)

To Ms Troupe who has a photo of Oscar Womack - you have sent numerous messages to an old e mail address which is forwarded to me (for now) - I have repeatedly sent a correct address, in fact three good ones, to you. What part of dont send to an old address dont you understand??

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 22:20:06 (PDT)
Dawn French

I am looking for information regarding the Womacks of Sumter, Lee, Marion and Schley counties of Georgia. My father is Harold Womack Stocks. His mother is Sara Ollie Womack. Her father is Owen Park Womack, Sr. Owen's father is James Shadrick Womack and his father was William Gaddy Womack. According to the census data I have found William Gaddy Womack's parents were also born in Georgia but I have been unable to locate them so that I can continue my search further back. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thank you,


Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 08:57:16 (PDT)
Warren Taylor

Looking for a Tom Womack, once lived in Old Hickory, Tennessee, graduated from Cumberland School of Law and formerly an FBI agent.

Friday, April 11, 2003 at 07:43:06 (PDT)
Glenn Womack

Does anyone know if it is still possible to obtain a copy of the "Valentine Papers? I would like to have a copy for my library for reference.

Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 13:55:21 (PDT)

A check with Amazon.com indicates it is out of print and hard to find..

Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 14:02:57 (PDT)

Should have sent this also:

In Four Volumes (Completely Indexed) Price $30 Per Set. Published by The Valentine Museum, Richmond, Virginia. Distributed by Genealogical Bureau of Virginia, P. 0. Box 344, Richmond, Virginia

Dont know if still good or not --

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 07:02:50 (PDT)
Jack Womack

Re: The DNA test I participated in, it was a total success. The conclusive evidence revealed that one line of the Blanton families were in fact related to the Womack lineage of Thomas and Louvisa Womack. Rev. Christenberry Lee's memiors was proven to be correct as far as Thomas Womack and Archie Blanton being full brothers, one taking the Womack name of his father and one taking the Blanton name of the mother. Thomas was the son of Abraham Womack Sr. the s/o Thomas and Mary Farley Womack. Abe Sr married age 18 to Elizabeth ? or possibly a Jane. He had an affair with Ann Nancy Blanton and the two sons Thomas and Archie and possibly a third son Richard Jr was born. Abe must have married again to an Elizabeth because his last son was born well beyond the first wifes child bearing years. Proof of Abraham and Ann's affair lies in the early VA Colonial records I will list.
In the 1750 tax list of Amelia County, Joshua is listed after and in the same household as Abraham Womack. The list appears to have all tithables listed by name. The order of listing indicates that Abraham was the responsible person and that Joshua was at least 16 years old. 17 May 1751. Amelia, VA Court Orders.
"Ordered church wardens of Nottoway Parish to bind out Richard Blanton, Jr., Thomas Blanton, and Archer Blanton."
A short time later that same day: "Grand jury sworn, Henry Farley, foreman. Presentments: ...........For Abraham Wawmock and Ann Blanton for living in adultery...."
A county payment to his jailer shows that Abraham Womack spent time in jail. It is presumed that it was for the above crime.
Fay has a posting on the WGN with some much info on the Memiors of Revernd Lee.
The Blantons are in the 3rd phase of their testing now and I have asked if more Womacks can participate in the next phase. The process is very simple with only a "Cheek cell swab" by the donor. The cost to a donor is $195 but with enough participants that may be cut to $160. If you are intrested in proving your linage to the early VA 1670/1790 Womacks you can E mail me. Sam Womack has agreed to be a donor but I would think with more participants and if an English descendant can be located we could settle the question of the Immigrant. If anyone else is interested they should try to get together the best inferential genealogies possible. The trees just need to be working hypotheses. You can always adjust the branches after the tests are done. People who try to test without trees end up getting lost in the data. Note: the Y Chromosome being tested is passed from male to male only.
I have tried to keep this short and have not began to publish all my findings on this subject nor do I have all the early related families sorted out. Anyone wanting the results of the test I can e mail the JPEGs. Yeah I know this is a blow to some to find out there was a skeleton in the closet but thats life.

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 08:10:05 (PDT)
Jack Womack

FYI More on the DNA Test.
The testing proved Kieth Blanton who is the descendant of Jeremiah Blanton, the apparent son of Archie/ Archer Blanton, is in fact a descendant of Abraham Womack Sr. s/o Thomas and Mary Farley Womack.
Jeremiah Blanton married Sarah "Sally"Womack who was the daughter of Lucy Womack but the gene being tested in the DNA test can not be passed through this marriage, only through the male lineage.
Kieth and one other Blanton and I had a perfect 26/26 DNA match.
Lucy who married her distant cousin, William Womack, was the dau of Thomas and Louvisa .

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 18:53:03 (PDT)
David Dunn

Howdy Bubs. Back after a long absence. In brief my computer died in early February and what with that and several long trips have only just got a new one and got back on line. Lost my address book and a lot of email in the process. So OK. SAM: I'll trade you half the costs of the will etc. for copies. Email me please. About Henry died 1628, we know from "History of Caius College Cambridge" he was born 1566, so his kids (History says the will says Salathiel, John, Henry, William; your reading omits a John) were probably born c. 1587-1607. So Henry could just barely be the merchant mentioned in Barbados. And William could just barely br the father of the 5 Henrico brothers, but it's more likely there's another generation in there. I think we need to get a reading of these wills by a pro. I'm gonna make a third try in 3 years to get to Norfolk in June and will try to do that along with the other wills we know about.

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 19:02:26 (PDT)
David Dunn

And I can't resist this. Reference: Nobility and Royalty. Well, Royalty is new. Where did that come from? And as for Nobility, don't forget the Duke (sometimes called Duck) of Albemarle absurdity, refuted elsewhere on this site.

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 20:10:14 (PDT)


I am looking for the obituary(or any info) of Richard Moore who married Desmonia Womack. I need this parents names.
Many thanks to Sam and Glenn for them helping me. What a great family the Womack's are.


Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 21:33:18 (PDT)

since I retire next yeah, mebbe we can get together and combine a fruitful trip to the auld sod!??
And, as far as royalty, that is as far fetched as a pure blooded Cherokee or any other American Indian Womack!! SO, those of you who are searching as a wannabee, forget it, there aint no pure blooded American Indian Womacks!!! Mixes, yes, pure no way..impossible!! So, give it up - rest yer mind, etc..
you are barking up the wrong tree!!

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 at 11:10:33 (PDT)
Mary Light

Who are Martha Ann Wom(m)ack Miller's parents? This is what I know so far:

Born in TN abt 1825 Source: Confederate Pension Application State of TX, Guadalupe Co., Seguin Post Office, dated July 18, 1899. She was 74 years old at the time of filing.

Married in Bedford County, TN "in the year 1844" to W. B. Miller
Source: same as above

1850 Attala Co.,MS Census Township 15 R7E pg 149 Oct 14:
W. B. Miller 24y farmer b NC
Martha Miller 25y b TN
Mary F. 4y b MS

1860 Census....can't find them anywhere, but family probable arrived in TX around 1854

1870 Guadalupe Co.,TX Census Seguin Post Office pg 414 Aug.
W. B. Miller 46 farmer b NC
Martha Miller 45 keeps house b TN
John 22 b MS
George 18 b MS
Bettie 14 b TX
Maldo-- 12 b TX
Margaret 9 b TX
Frank 7 b TX

1880 Kimble Co., TX Precinct No 3 June 28
William B. Miller 60 farmer b NC NC NC
Martha A. 56 keeping house b TN VA SC
Frank R. 16 works on farm b TX

In the 1900 Kimble Co.,TX Junction City Precinct #1 pg 109A Martha is a 75 yr widow born Feb 1825 and 6 of her 11 children are living. Martha is living with her son George W. family.

If anyone else is from this TX family please respond. As per the above, all I know about Martha's parents is per the 1900 census. Her father was born in NC and her mother was born in SC and Martha was born in TN.

Any suggestions as to who what when where how to figure this out?

Thanks, Mary in Michigan

Thursday, April 17, 2003 at 18:54:36 (PDT)
David Dunn

Sam, my friend, I would be delighted to join forces with you on a trip to England/Norfolk. Actually you sound like such an interesting person I'd go anywhere with you. I am still, God willing, going to do my June/July trip this year, and do what I can at the NRO and in Lopham etc. Suggestions gratefully accepted. David.

Friday, April 18, 2003 at 12:34:20 (PDT)

If you do get to go, there are two wills that needs be obtained - I have the names and dates at home somewhere - they are from the late 1500's - and are probably for Arthur's father and one of his brothers...I still havent got Arthurs will where I can read it -- let me know and will copy and send mebbe you can translate - Dave Maher in Aussie land working on first three pages of Henry - As I mentioned he did have more sons than listed in that info Roger received from England -- Someone else said he had another named John not mentioned or I missed --

Friday, April 18, 2003 at 19:31:09 (PDT)

Rarely, with the exception of you and one or so others; do I get a reply on anything here on WGN. I guess that is because of my enthusiasm, disdain and high maintenance attitude - so, me friend, I would appreciate contact, and info sharing from my point of view, via e mail rather than here on WGN..
Jack you are included here!!!

Monday, April 21, 2003 at 10:20:04 (PDT)
Diana Lynn Walker

I am afraid of offending the group, but I feel sure that someone here has connections to my line. Maybe since I am new to genealogy I am not submitting the correct information. I spent the weekend reading the archives and completed all but 2001 and I see several references to my line, but few responses.

This much I know:

William Riley Womack b (abt 1826) I have seen some other dates, but this is from the 1880 jackson County census.

Marriage Date: 30 Dec 1847 Recorded in: Calhoun, Alabama
Benton Co., AL., became Calhoun Co., AL.


Rhoda Jane married Eddie Lee Stevens, they moved back and forth between texas and Oklahoma for several years.

This next part I do not have confirmed, but I am getting closer and I believe it is correct.

John/jack Womack (Rhoda's brother I believe) married and had a child named Lucy.

Lucy married Alexander Adolophus Stevens who was Eddie lee's half brother.

Many of the postings about this line are older and the email's no longer work.

Jack sent me some information, but it was confusing because the birthdate of William Riley was listed as 1846 instead of 1826. I don't think he could have been born AFTER he married Lucretia.

I still think this line ties in with Louvisa Rice and Thomas, but I don't have the connections. I will continue learning how to use the net and my local library, but I am hoping to also connect with others who may have photos and other documents. I will be visiting my aunt soon and hope that she has my great-grandmothers bible and photos.


Wednesday, April 23, 2003 at 00:46:33 (PDT)
christie fitzgerald

After reading the page on Country Singer LeeAnn Womack, I was wondering how does she connect to William and Mary Allen? Can someone Please let me know? Thanks, Christie Fitzgerald

Wednesday, April 23, 2003 at 17:57:14 (PDT)
David Dunn

Christie. I guess maybe Roger should reply but I think the quick answer is that most serious Womack researchers are not sure that William and Mary Allen Womack existed.

Wednesday, April 23, 2003 at 20:03:14 (PDT)
Joel Brown

Im looking for for a family (Wolmac, Wamic) who was pro-union in Tenn. during the Civil War. This family helped the Engineers of the "Andrews Raid" escape out of the South to the North.

Friday, April 25, 2003 at 17:15:11 (PDT)
David Dunn

I saw in the March/April issue of "Family History Magazine" a notice of the publication of "Quaker Records of Henrico Monthly Meeting". I reviewed these records in their handwritten form from FHL a few years ago. I saw no mention of the name Womack. But maybe it will be there (or maybe not) in this transcription, which has an index. Anyway I've ordered a copy and will report.

Friday, April 25, 2003 at 21:59:45 (PDT)
Kate Mustain

Am stuck at my grandfather, ca. 1887-1933, born in ALA?; wandered around Southwest, riding the rails a bit, looking for "The Big Java" (a great cup of coffee); married Dorothy Virginia Stuart in Oklahoma City ca. 1911-13; settled in Los Angeles area by ca. 1918. Anyone know anything abt. his line? I admit I haven't yet made an intensive effort to find my ggrandparents on his side, but I'd be extremely interested to know anything.... Thanks! Kate Mustain

Friday, April 25, 2003 at 22:03:22 (PDT)
Kate Mustain

How red is my face?!? Just posted message abt. my grandfather & failed to give his name. We call him The Big Java or The Arkansas Traveler, but his name was JEREMIAH MARSTON WOMACK, or J.MARSTON WOMACK. Thanks again--Kate Mustain

Saturday, April 26, 2003 at 09:24:52 (PDT)
Donna S. Parker

DANIEL R. STATON: Looking for any information regarding the first marriage of Daniel R. Staton. He married Enola Viola Lee, 30 October 1890, Grayson Co., Texas. They had a daughter, Minnie Ola Staton, born February 1893 in Indian Territory. The 1900 Federal census lists Daniel and daughter Minnie, living in the household of Americus L. Lee, Grayson Co., Texas. Daniels marital statis is listed as Widowed, relationship as a boarder. Hopefully, someone knows the circustances or date of death for Enola Viola (Lee)Staton. Daniel Staton married (2) Kate Elizabeth Franks, ca. 1900, Grayson Co., Texas. Any help here is greatly appreciated.

Tuesday, April 29, 2003 at 18:57:15 (PDT)
David Dunn

Got the Quaker Records of Henrico. Sure enough no Womacks, Pucketts, Childers or Tanners. Granted the records start only in 1699 (significant in itself) members of the first known generation (born 1644, 1655, ff) and their kids/grandkids would have been around, getting married, attending weddings, participating in building the meeting house, being condemned (including for not attending meeting) and mentioned, if they were Friends. I think it's conclusive that the Womacks were not Quakers. Neither they nor any of their related families appear in these records. As was usual, the Quakers were more or less a separate society, and our Womacks didn't belong.

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