November 2002 Message Archive
Friday, November 01, 2002 at 11:29:52 (PST)

Arkansas has a death index starting sometime around 1914 and runs in 3 or 4 vols to the 1940s -- check at your local FHC -- the Mesa AZ FHC is missing one volume - I pulled out all the AR Womacks from them and got a lookup on the missing one - they are posted on my AR data page---

Friday, November 01, 2002 at 19:18:26 (PST)
Ann McDonald

Sam, well, the problem I have with Arkansas is more that no one in my neck of the woods bothered to send vital records stuff to Little Rock - you may know a guy died in 1920, you have his obit, his tombstone, but no one bothered to file a death certificate for him - after all, everyone knew who he was! LOL!

Anyway, this Perney Conditt Womack, she's in the family of one John H. Conditt age 50, Bryan Co., OK in 1920, he was born in Arkansas, and I can't quite make out what it says for his father's place of birth, his mother was b. Arkansas - wife is Dottie, Perney seems to be the eldest daughter at 21, b. Arkansas, the next daughter b. TX, then the rest in OK. So, I wouldn't doubt these guys were somehow related to the other Conditt marrying the other Womack.

Hmm, ok, so here we are in Independence Co, AR in 1870 - Wallace Twp, which nicely is only 8 pages long - page 158 - the family of William B. Conditt, wife Elizabeth age 21, sons James B. 2, and John H. 7/12 - so one suspects that at least the two Conditts were brothers. And ancestry has some conflicting info on who William's father was - but probably a James B.

So, at least we've helped him on the Conditt side of the family! LOL!

Sunday, November 03, 2002 at 05:54:25 (PST)

True..but remember an obit is as much of an official document as is a death certificate. Some dont believe that; but since the newspaper is copyrighted it is an official publication. I know this for a fact because I saw to it that adverse action was taken against a military member because of a DUI notice in a local paper - and it held up..

Also, a word to the wise if you havent already had the pleasure - dont buy any product until you see the book inside the box - dont trust the system requirements on the outside - I just bought one of the HP printer-scanner-copier combos - box on outside says Windows XP also - soft ware says isnt supported and so does the book inside -- now I have to put back together and take back and fight the dang people to get them to take back - I can order the software upgrade, supposedly; but who wants to wait 8 days - I dont!!

Sunday, November 03, 2002 at 09:42:32 (PST)
kelley allison

I am the granddaughter of Ruth and Colvin Womack (Prince Edward Co?, VA) just beginning to search my genealogy. I live in california but my womack relatives live in and around prince edward county and richmond virginia. I came upon this site in 1999 but then moved and my search was put on the back-burner. I don't even know where to start.

both ruth and colvin had surname womack so i'm not sure if there were distant relatives or not related. also heard that the spelling may have been changed.

Ruth has two sisters, and two brothers: Margaret, Merle and Billy (william), Roy, respectively. both brothers have now passed on. Colvin had/has numerous brothers and sisters; Joyce, Eleanor (just to name the ones that i know). I was too young to know many of them. I remember hearing that either Ruth or Colvins' father was adopted, but I'm not sure. also heard rumor of being part american indian (but i overheard this as a child and not sure if memory is correct) This is all of the information that I have except that my grandmother, ruth was born june 1909 (in virginia?)

Can anyone help me get started?

Sunday, November 03, 2002 at 10:57:04 (PST)
kelley allison

okay, i just found an obit listing the wife of one of my grandmother's sister-in-laws. her husband was hugh t. womack. i clicked on his name but it doesn't give me his parents' names. but it listed his siblings, Margaret and Virginia (Merle). Hugh went by the nickname Billy so i thought his given name was william. i was wrong. how can i find out his parent's names so that i will have a good 'starting point'?

Sunday, November 03, 2002 at 20:49:34 (PST)

Sam, i also have one of those hp printer, scanner combos. i went ahead and put on puter and i have no problems. I go to college to learn about these silly things (puters) and have been told that when it says on box that it is for windows xp but the book in box says not, well you can put on puter! i did and have no problems! christie

Sunday, November 03, 2002 at 23:27:58 (PST)
Roger Womack

I think they had a run on those hp combos, I just bought the hp psc 750 also, I don't have XP though, I'm still running win98 on this Pentium III, my laptop is ME, and I have a celeron with win98, all of them are working perfect with the hp. I'm sure happy with it.

Monday, November 04, 2002 at 11:40:35 (PST)

Christie and Rog
I think I already told Rog, but you know age brings repetition!Anyway, I took the thing back and got money back went to Wally World, got a LexMark x73 supposed to be print/scan/copy as shown on box, but the unit shows fax also - guess you nevah know whut in da box - huh?? This one works great - and I like the idea of at least the scanner and printer in one area and not piggybacked on a cable--anyway gonna try the ocr software and see what that does if not I have another I can load and hope it works on XP...I have an older 95 photo program that works great on XP - andway, what we do for genealogy without all these hummers??

Monday, November 04, 2002 at 21:08:10 (PST)
Linda Goff

We have been trying for many years to find Isaac Newton Womack b. 13 Aug 1825 (son of Larkin and Frances Basye Womack) and his wife, Alzania Garrett. Recently, I went to Salt Lake City and found the marriage record in Panola Co., TX 9 Dec 1853. My ggmother was very certain that Emma, b. 1857 was the daughter of Isaac Newton, but I cannot find them on any census 1860 or 1870. Can anyone connect? We sure would appreciate any help.

Thursday, November 07, 2002 at 07:12:34 (PST)
Charlotte Jones Harrington

Hi, I need to see if any of the Womack researchers have any further info on a Benjamin Womack, Jr. that married a Nancy Jones. The info I have found so far is that he was born (ca) 1795 and Nancy Jones was born (ca) 1805. Does anyone have any more detailed info on this Nancy Jones? I am trying to find who her parents were. As I had previously had reported, there was a Nancy Wommack, or Womack listed as a heir in a Mark JOnes estate file for 1858 Stanly County, NC.
I need to find out exactly who she was. Thank you very much!!!!

Thursday, November 07, 2002 at 10:12:21 (PST)
Roger Womack

In Daniel Webster Womack's letter written July 19, 1936 (paragraph below)
he mentions Licinda Triplett his third wife as having a sister Nancy who was the grandmother of Robert Ripley, does anyone have any information on this connection to Robert Ripley?

His first wife died in April 1844. His second marriage was in September 1844, to Mary Ann Bradshaw, who died the 6th of October 1853. His third wife was Lucinda Triplette who lived to the age of 79, out living him 5 years. It may be interesting to note here that her sister Nancy, was, many years later to become the grandmother of the celebrated cartoonist Robert Ripley, of the Believe it or Not cartoons.

Thursday, November 07, 2002 at 11:13:19 (PST)
Roger Womack

OOPS!!! Daniel Webster Womack's mother was Lucinda Triplett, 3rd wife of his father Richard Bently Womack.

Thursday, November 07, 2002 at 19:34:47 (PST)

Yeah Charlotte tentatively got Nancy Jones back to her GG-GF, will trade for any info you have on parents of Benjamin..I* know where his wife's line goes back to one of my other main lines (Lanier).

Thursday, November 07, 2002 at 20:05:29 (PST)
Beth Howser

Hi Charlotte...On Rootsweb's World Connect, there is a researcher who has Nancy A. Jones, b. 1802, dau. of Francis Jones, b. 1761 and Mary Mills, who married Benjamin Womack. In her Jones research, she has some of this family b. in Screven Co., GA. It looks as if this Benjamin Womack was the son of ? Norwood and David Womack, son of Abraham Womack and Martha Mitchell. He was b. abt. 1798 in Screven Co., GA and died ca. July 1859 in Fort Mead, FL according to Annette Womack. Annette only has the first name, Nancy, as the wife of Benjamin Womack. I looked again for a connection to Mark, William and Allen, sons of Charles Jones, but no luck. Any more details you can share? BTW, Nancy A. Jones's sister, Eleanor, m. Thomas Womack.

Beth Howser

Thursday, November 07, 2002 at 21:11:11 (PST)
Roger Womack

I think that information on Benjamin has been proved incorrect, Benjamin Womack who married Nancy A. Jones was the son of Benjamin Womack sp Mary Lanier. I think it is David Dunn that has some information on this, but I need to check my notes. Eleanor Jones married Thomas Han Womack.

Friday, November 08, 2002 at 08:32:38 (PST)
Ann McDonald

Beth, you want to talk to Miles Womack down in Florida about David Womack's family (if he doesn't answer hopefully his current email is in the big directory here and hopefully his ISP hasn't died again) Basically, I think that Benjamin who m. Nancy Jones you will find in the FL 1850 census with 7 kids - he died in 1859 and Nancy died in 1869. They had a few more kids that I don't have listed.

Friday, November 08, 2002 at 08:59:47 (PST)
Fred Womack

Benjamin Womack (d July 1859,Liberty Co. Florida), son of Benjamin Womack and Mary Lanier married Nancy Jones,dau of Francis Jones(bApr 28,1762,d 1813)and Mary "Polly" Mills. Benjamin & Nancy moved to Florida about 1845---see Lanier Family references by INGERSOL.
Nancy,s sister Eleanor married Thomas H. Womack (bNov 15,1791,d 1837).Thomas & Eleanor are my GGGrandparents.
Thomas H. Womack's brother,Benjamin A. Womack married a different Nancy Jones.
Benjamin A. Womack & Thomas H. Womack were sons of William Womack(b 1755,d 1830) and Elizabeth Shuman, documented in the existing original prayer book of Elizabeth Shuman Womack.

Fred D. Womack

Friday, November 08, 2002 at 11:26:38 (PST)

I got the Lanier connection back to ca 1475 or there abouts -- Lanier is a direct connection on my mom's side -- also as mentioned - Laura Ingersolls book has the info also..

Friday, November 08, 2002 at 13:28:26 (PST)
Charlotte Jones Harrington

Hi everybody! Thanks for all the replys! I realize this site is for the Womacks but since a couple of yall have requested more info on what I have, I will be glad to share what I have that is actually been documented thru court records about my Jones family. I am trying my best to find what the connection is with the Womacks but have not been able to identify it yet. My 2 messages I have posted on your website dated October 22 and November 7, 2002 has showed some interest to you great researchers so I am hoping some one out there can help me out and help them as well! Here goes: (Please look back at the one date Oct 22 about the Buckhorn Creek land deeds)
My ggg grandfather CHARLES JONES (ca. b.1750 VA?) has been documented in Granville County, NC along with MARK AND ISAAC ALLEN family. Charles eventually migrated to Anson/Montgomery/Stanly County, NC with this family. There is a close association with this family but have been unable to establish what the relationship is due to the major courthouse fires in Montgomery and Stanly County as well as Moore COunty. CHARLES JONES had land holdings all along the Cape Fear River in Chatham, Cumberland, Harnett and Moore. I am "assuming" there was a home place on BUCKHORN CREEK on the Cape Fear since he owned several hundred acres there and at least one of his grandsons(BALDWIN HENDERSON "BALDY" JONES) came back there and settled in the 1850's. "Baldy" was my great grandfather(B. 1824 Montgomery County, NC D.1902 Moore County buried at Concord Methodist Church on Buckhorn Road Lee County NC).
CHARLES JONES m. ???? and had the following children that have been positively identified WILLIAM JONES(b>1780 DIED 1847), ALLEN JONES, MARK JONES AND MARY JONES. ALLEN JONES moved to Tenn. in the eary 1800's. MARK JONES lived in Montgomery County, NC and had daughter named Sarah Freeman(Husband J>J> Freeman). Sarah died before Mark Jones. MARY JONES is beleived to have married a MOSS. WILLIAM JONES (my gg grandfather) was beleived to have married a MOSS and / or a WOMACK because the one of the children of William Jones was named ALLEN W. JONES and the researcher who originally searched this family in the 1970's said family members beleived the W. stood for Womack. There were some more children that Charles had but have unable to identify them. I have a strong hunch that Charles had a daughter named Nancy Jones who would be a sister to Mark Jones. Again, there is a NANCY WOMACK, WOMMACK, WORMICK listed in the 1858 MARK JONES estate file in Stanly County, NC. It states Nancy Womack or HEIRS which leads me to beleive that this Nancy would be old or deceased since it said "OR HEIRS".
Now, Charles Jones son WILLIAM JONES had daughter NANCY JONES(listed as marrying a Westly Talbott, Talbert, Tolbert). She would have been born 1800-1810. Other children of William Jones are MARTHA JONES, MARY ANN JONES(m. James Fields), ROBERT MARK JONES, CRISSY/CRISEY JONES(B.1813) (m. ELI LOWRY), SARAH (SALLY) JONES (b.1814) (m.Eldridge Hall), ALLEN W. JONES(m. Velina Brooks),
and ELIZABETH JONES (B. 1832)(m. Horace Fields).
My great grandfather Baldwin Henderson Jones (m. about 1850) children were
My soul purpose that started all this research was to see where my dad got the name JUNIUS CULBRETH JONES. It is not a common name and cannot find anything to explain where this name came from. I have a hunch my answer to this is going to be in the wives of CHARLES AND WILLIAM JONES. These ladies have not been identified and have hit a brick wall with this. I was very fortunate to come in contact with a researcher who had found the file on my Jones family in the Stanly county, NC library where someone had paid a registered genealogist to search these folks back in the 1970's. Who ever it was, was very kind to place this in the library for others to see. I am hoping if I can identify the Nancy Wommack that is listed in the estate file and contact some of her decendants, maybe I can get some answers. I am sorry this is so long, but hope it may help someone along the way. I have more info, but made this as brief as I could. Will be happy to share any and all info I have. Thank you very much!

Saturday, November 09, 2002 at 07:24:46 (PST)
Beth Howser

Wow!....I did stir up a hornet's nest!....Sorry guys, but I was just trying to help Charlotte ....these are neither one my lines....but we did find out the WGN researchers with big data bases are live and well! Have a great weekend, everyone


Saturday, November 09, 2002 at 11:11:32 (PST)

I like 197 more pages and I will have Womacks in 1920 TX census indexed using soundex -- I am now issuing a challenge -- I need some volunteers - I will provide 15-20 names to anyone that has a subsciption to the census on Ancestry - each name has whether or not an image is available - I would like those who accept to review those images and transcribe the family data for each of them - i.e. name/age/race/relationship to head of household and the
birth place of individual/father/mother -
Forward to me and I will assimilate into the data I have and then post for all to see -- any acceptors??

By the way this may be an answer to the Isaac Newton question -
Possibly reason cannot find Isaac Newton in TX may be here.
This could well be Isaac Jr but appears if so they went back
to MO for some reason. Then Jr ended up in AR, found a wife, and
then went to TX sometime between 1903 and 1905. This one was in
the area of Grand Prairie TX. Census done Feb 1920.

Wammack, Isaac N age 62 born MO, both parents born TN (born 1858?)
Wife: Cordelia E, age 56, born AR, parents born TN
Arthur W, Son age 21, born AR,
Myrtle E, Dau, age 17, born AR
Bertie (looks like anyway)Dau, age 15, born TX
Daisy M, dau, age 13, born TX
Of course I could be wrong(have been before)...

Saturday, November 09, 2002 at 11:20:01 (PST)

This could be right could be wrong - but a clue??

Descendants of Francis Jones

1 Francis Jones
...2 Matthew Jones
.....+Eliza Aldridgton
.....3 Francis I Jones 1704 - 1755
.......+Mary Ridley 1704 - 1749
.......4 Francis II Jones 1720 - 1774
.........+Mary Robins
.........*2nd Wife of Francis II Jones:
.........+Elizabeth Huckabee 1737 - 1798
.........5 Francis III Jones 1762 - 1813
...........+Mary "Polly" Mills 1768 -
...........6 Nancy Jones 1802 -
.............+Benjamin Jr Womack 1795 - 1859
.............7 James 1833 -
.............7 Martha 1835 -
.............7 Green 1837 -
.............7 Francis 1839 -
.............7 William 1843 -
...........6 Eleanor Jones 1807 -
.............+Thomas Han Sr Womack 1791 - 1837
.............7 Thomas Han Jr Womack 1834 - 1864
...............+Rebecca Lewis 1832 - 1913
...............8 James Madison Womack 1855 - 1923
.................+Abbie Gill Bunn
.................9 Moses Malcolm Womack 1883 - 1963
...................+Naomi Bennett
...................10 Darwin Lee Womack 1915 -
..................... +Gussie Sheperd

Saturday, November 09, 2002 at 18:05:09 (PST)
Linda Goff

Thanks Sam,
Emma Womack married Colin Magouirk and all children were born in Texas. Robert Lee, Ellie, Joseph Newton, Holley, Fannie, Jessie, and Charlie.
Emma's father was Isaac Newton Womack b. 1825. My family information says Emma had sisters Cordelia b. 1859, Laura by 1860 and a brother "Plez" older than Emma who was b. 1857. Census shows Emma and Cordelia b. TX. I have not found Plez but have an old cabinet card of "Aunt Laura Womack Leeper who had a brother, Plez". Thanks for your help.

Sunday, November 10, 2002 at 12:49:03 (PST)
Don Reece

Halifax, County Virginia ...1910 Census
Head of household Jefferson Womack age 32
Wife Lucy T. age 38
Daughter Lottie Lee age 12
Son John H.
My grandmother, the above Lottie Lee Womack,
was the granddaughter of Mary C. Womack
(Jefferson's mother) Mary was the daughter
of Miles Womack (died January 1847 ) and Fannie
Hawkins (born ca 1803). Miles and Fannie were
Married in Halifax Co. Va. on July 4, 1826. I
need how Miles goes back in the Womack line .

Sunday, November 10, 2002 at 14:19:51 (PST)
Charlotte Jones Harrington

Hi! I have found some more info pertaining to the Womacks in Wake/Chatham County, NC. For what its worth, maybe it will help someone. This info came from a genealogist named Butcher who researched this for a Jones lady from Virginia back in the late 1970's. It will be excerts. Here goes!
"Moss and Womack families: One source variously report Mary, wife of William Jones, as a Moss or Womack. The heirs of Mark Jones also include a Richard Moss and a Nancy Womack. The earliest Moss in Montgomery County was one Robert Moss, who settled southwest of the Yadkin(and thus fairly near Charles Jones) by 1785. He may well have been the father-in-law of William Jones, who named his eldest son Robert." ....Oh this is great! I have just discovered another one of William's Jones brothers! Could this be the Robert Jones that is listed in the Chatham County deed book? Here is the deed: 'May 1779 James Booker and Pheby his wife of Albridgton Womack - 500 pds-300 acs. in the County of Chatham and Wake joins Robert Jones on the waters of Little Creek wit. John Wommack, Valentine V. Braswell, James and Pheby Booker.'
Next excert: "The census does not show the surname Womack occuring in Montgomery County, NC and this family was not numerous in North Carolina. The nearest to Stanly County were in Chatham County. Here the estate of Britain Womack was administered in 1817 by Wiley Womack. Purchasers at the sale, August 1817, included Wilie Jones and John Moss. A petition of 1819 lists his heirs as Patsey, Britain, Tempe, William, Alexander, Molly, Nancy, Ferebee, and Winny Womack, and Britain Womack the younger (evidently a grandson)."
Now, I am sure all this stuff is in this website somewhere and probably has already been read before. But since it does mention the Jones clan, I thought this might be another lead to tie in to. I seen somewhere on the website that the name used was Britain J. Womack. Does anyone know what the J. stands for?
All of you given me some valuable leads, so I will check them all out. Thank you so much. I hope the info above is correct and I feel it should be since this guy was a certified genealogist. The things I have found on the report have certainly matched up to the court finding I have been able to come across, so I feel it is accurate.
If yall see anything that may give me a lead, please let me know. Thank you again for allowing me to post these queries. This is a wonderful website and you all are great!!

Sunday, November 10, 2002 at 14:21:07 (PST)
Jack Womack

Well Folks, it is starting to look like the Rev. Christenberry Lee thing has a lot of truth in it. All the stuff is not in yet, but I have seen enough that I am wondering if my Thomas 1743 may be a full brother to Archee Blanton. This may upset some who don't want to find a skelleton in their closet but the DNA don't lie. I have a match with a lot of Blantons and it is not through Jeremiah Blanton who married Sarah Sallie Womack, dau of Louvisa Lucy who married William Womack (said to be a distant cousin) because this particular test only measures patrimony. The tests are done on the Y-chromosome. It is passed from father to son largely intact. There is nothing passed from mother to son. Thus, females will have no effect on the DNA. However, it does show that Jeremiah's father was a Womack by blood. It doesn't prove that my Thomas was necesarily Archee's brother. The results are not complete but the link is there to tie Thomas to the other Womack lines, how far back remains to be seen. More can be found on Thomas at ... I have searched the VA and NC tithables and court records and found the Nancy Blanton and Abraham Womack info where Nancy (Ann) Blanton was charged with adultry and giving birth to a bastroid child. Seems like she was always in trouble with her love life as there are other mentions in the court records. The VA Colonial Alemia 1750 tithables show Abraham Sr. and Josuah Blanton in the same house hold. Same page list Abraham Jr. who may or may not have been the son of Abe Sr. There is some question as to the use of the Sr., Jr. thing because it was sometimes used when two of the same surname were in the same area. Anyway Abraham Jr. moved away and was married later and not to a Blanton. Old Rev. Lee may not had all his facts straight but it looks like he was right about some. The final results of the testing is not in therefor a true picture can not be put togather but I know I now have several Blanton cousins.

Sunday, November 10, 2002 at 15:32:29 (PST)
Charlotte Jones Harrington

Correction to last posting of mine! William Jones named his eldest son Robert Mark Jones. Earlier, when posting the previous one, I did not read it clearly and thought it meant William's brother. Anyway, it clearly states his eldest son Robert. Therefore, the Robert Jones in the deed for 1779 is not Robert Mark Jones. It still could be a unknown brother to William anyway!????
Sorry for the misleading info! Charlotte

Sunday, November 10, 2002 at 19:15:16 (PST)
Roger Womack

Don Reece, I tried to email you, email returned on the address you gave. This is Mark Womack's line.

Sunday, November 10, 2002 at 20:24:36 (PST)
Judy Womack

Looking for family of William Wommack shown in Tuscaloosa, Alabama in 1850 census with children Manerva, Sam, Elizabeth, William, George. Believe older daughter Ann married Thomas Ramsey in Tuscaloosa in 1847. Manerva married Franklin Ogden in 1853. Interested in what happened to Anna and Thomas after 1850. I'll certainly trade any info I have.

Tuesday, November 12, 2002 at 07:33:02 (PST)
Don Reece

Sorry the email was "Return to sender". Things go haywire every time
I start something new. I should have never retired! This is my first
attempt at genealogy and using the computer. I consulted with my ISP and
found i didn"t know where I lived. My correct email is "".
That solved part of my problem. Now... How do I find out about Mark's line?

Tuesday, November 12, 2002 at 10:29:07 (PST)
Roger Womack

August messages have been moved to the archives. Thanks everyone for all the posts.

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 at 18:25:50 (PST)

thankee thankee thankee
all who volunteered to do the Texas 1920 census lookups - you will be rewarded with a pass word to see the results!

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 at 18:45:04 (PST)

I backed off that dna thang - afraid would be clos kin to you - LOL
but you right, a DNA from someone like me could prove a lil further back
if them peeps connected to one certain area -

Thursday, November 14, 2002 at 14:39:35 (PST)
Jack Womack
oldpro@ caprok net

Being kin to me wouldn't be so bad, I ain't going to ask you for a loan. As for the DNA thang, I have seen some of the results and I can say this there are a lot of Blantons out there who are Womacks by blood. A lot of Womacks who thought they were not related to old Thomas and Louvisa are going to be surprised when they find out their old great granddaddy's spouse was a Blanton. Peers like ya'll will have to own up to being some kin to me and,heaven forbid, Sam also. LOL. Shucks a kid born before the parents married ain't so bad when you look at some of the old Womack hog stealing and wifebeating records. Nowdays it is the in thing and not many give it a second thought. Twas the same in the early King days. One of the best singers I know stold a goat in El Paso, that didnt hurt his singing a bit. He said it made good Bar-B-Que and smoothed out the vocal cords. I'll not commit myself to making a firm statement until all the results have been compiled, that's the reason some of these genealogies on the web are in error.
Just wish people would get my John Bethel's wife Hattie T. Bethel married to the right spouse, she wasn't married to Bethel H., B.H. was married to L.A. Stewart. Something else while I'm at it William C. and Rebecca Dunham did'nt have a son named Pinckney, his name was William D.P.(Doctor Pinckney)Womack. As Sgt Joe Friday would say " just the facts Mam ". All my "unrelated" cousins need to take a good look at some of the early VA Colonial court, church and tithable records. There is a Womack MRCA (Most Recent Common Ancestor)plugged into Thomas with a date of 1675 , thats possibly about the time of Abraham Sr. and Nancy (Ann ) Blanton, so all you researchers sharpen your best searching skills and lets see what we can find.

Thursday, November 14, 2002 at 15:59:09 (PST)
Don Reece

This is the little I know. Miles Womack married Frances Hawkins. Their
child, Mary Womack, did not marry, but said to have had an affair with John
McCargo d. 1889. Lillie Womack {Mary's daughter for sure) married William Hudson/Hutson. Jefferson Davis Womack (Mary's son for sure) married first Mary Hudson. Mary and Jefferson had issue who died before his second marriage.
Jefferson's second marriage was to Lucy Taylor Sneed/Snead. Lucy's second marriage was James Edumdson.
Issue from Jeff and Lucy were three who died young. Other issue was
Lottie Lee Womack and John Henry Womack. Lottie's first marriage was to Ridhard Thomas Compton, my grandfather. Her second marriage was to Chris Panagopoulos (shortened to Panagos). Lottie's first marriage produced five children, Sedrick
Marvin Compton ( died at infancy), Annie Bernice Compton (married firsr John

Thursday, November 14, 2002 at 20:00:51 (PST)
Molly Strange

Finally got my dad interested in this stuff, and here are a few qustions he has (he ain't web-savvy, an old fart who just got himself a computer, but won't hook up. Probably better for all of us that he doesn't). Anyway, here are who he's looking for info on:

Is the Thomas Womack, named postmaster of Womack, TX in 1881, the same Thomas Womack of the line descending from Jefferson Davis Womack of TX (born in Louisiana though)?

Anyone know of the history of one Addie Womack, who lived in Womack, Tx in Bosque County in the late 1880's? She was a school teacher, and the question is: Is this Addie Womack, the same as Adeline Womack, born April 6, 1860, daughter of William Earnest Womack, and Eleanor Goyns?

Finally, anyone have any STORIES or aditional information on Jefferson Davis Womack and kin?

Any info on this would be greatly appreciated!

Thursday, November 14, 2002 at 20:01:49 (PST)
Molly Strange

POSTED AGAIN - email address wrong in first posting!!!

Finally got my dad interested in this stuff, and here are a few qustions he has (he ain't web-savvy, an old fart who just got himself a computer, but won't hook up. Probably better for all of us that he doesn't). Anyway, here are who he's looking for info on:

Is the Thomas Womack, named postmaster of Womack, TX in 1881, the same Thomas Womack of the line descending from Jefferson Davis Womack of TX (born in Louisiana though)?

Anyone know of the history of one Addie Womack, who lived in Womack, Tx in Bosque County in the late 1880's? She was a school teacher, and the question is: Is this Addie Womack, the same as Adeline Womack, born April 6, 1860, daughter of William Earnest Womack, and Eleanor Goyns?

Finally, anyone have any STORIES or additional information on Jefferson Davis Womack and kin?

Any info on this would be greatly appreciated!

Friday, November 15, 2002 at 05:58:05 (PST)

Now mebbe I should go ahead and do that DNA thang. Twould give a good idee which bro or uncle of Abe I possibly came from and pin down a line to some degree wouldnt it?? E mail me that URL where that stuff is if ye would.

Friday, November 15, 2002 at 07:20:04 (PST)
Don Reece

This is what I know about my family line, Miles Womack married Frances Hawkins.Issue Mary Womack; she did not marry ,but had an affair with John Mc Cargo That affair produced children. Lillie Womack (Mary's daughter for sure)
married William Hudson(Wutson?) Jefferson Davis Womack ( Mary's son for sure) married Mary Hudson. Three children produced by this marriage, but all died before his second marriage.
Jeff's second marriage was to Lucy Taylor Sneed and this marriage produced two children, Lottie Lee Womack and John Henry Womack. Later on in life Lucy married again to James Edmundson. John Womack married twice. First he married Ruth _______ and produced Johnny Womack. Second, he married Alma _____ and produced two children, Shirley Ray and Donnie Womack.
Now... Lottie Lee married twice, the first time to Richard Thomas Compton.
This marriage produced five children. Sedrick Marvin (died in infancy), Annie Bernice Compton (my mother), Allie Taylor Compton (married Edward Marosy), Ethel Davis Compton (married Ernest Clayborne Hill), and Thomas Irvine Compton (married Frank Charles Krauss). Bernice, Allie, Ethel,Thomas were known as the "Compton Girls".
Lottie"s second marriage was to Chris Panagopoulos (Panagos) and produced three children Porta(married to Vincent Tolino), Gus (married to Amber Faye Henry, and Efslatheia ("Sis") who died 1938.
I do have some dates , but musr clear them with the family before givig them out.

Friday, November 15, 2002 at 16:08:07 (PST)
Mike Wren

On 15-Apr-1758 Samuel Alsobrook deeds to William Wommock of Southampton VA
for 5 shillings & 8 pence, 50 acres on the south side of 3 Creeks and
bounded by county line and main run of creek (Sussex DB A:297)

On 16-Apr-1762 Wm Womack of Halifax Co NC sells for 10 lbs the 50 acres
deeded him by Samuel Alsobrook, to Thomas Womack. (Sussex DB B:319)

Samuel was born circa 1690 and has several sons who are proven but only 1
proven daughter, Hannah, wife of Wiggins Killebrew.

The price Samuel sold the land to William appears to be a bargain price.
Was William's wife a daughter of Samuel? Who was Thomas Womack who bought
the land?

Friday, November 15, 2002 at 21:19:18 (PST)
Anthony Gallaher (Tony)

I am Looking for a Virginia Womack Or Wolmack that Lived in Vacaville Ca. in the Mid 1950s She would be about 49 today. I think her father was in the air force at that time.

Saturday, November 16, 2002 at 03:35:36 (PST)

Question - Are you saying that the alleged affair twixt Abe and Nancy occurred in the 1675ish time frame? If so and the Thomas we lookin fer be the one who married Louvisa, isnt that a bit far fetched if he was born around the 1740 time frame as most of us have him?
Or, did I miss something somewhere??

Saturday, November 16, 2002 at 03:59:03 (PST)

Although I posted on the country query page - I am not much for trusting those pages to get info back - So, if anyof you who may have access to McMinn Co TN, Meigs Co, Marriages - would appreciate a looksee for a marriage twixt Tom Wommack and Julia ? ages 18 and 16, respectively, on the 1880 McMinn Census. Who signed consent for both; and her maiden name appreciated. Poss an unknown first marriage of me G-GF.

Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 07:23:40 (PST)
Rita Guzzo

Hi. I'm new to this site and I think it's great. I am a member of the Womack Mailing List and that's where I got the info on this website. I only have one Womack in my family tree so far. Her name is Parmelia A. Womack. I don't know where she was born or her parent's names. She married Anson Harford 3 June 1846 in Shelby County, Indiana (see the USGenWeb site for Shelby Co., Ind.). He was born about 1825 in Ohio, died before 1876 in Franklin County, Kansas. Does anybody have Womacks in Indiana and Kansas? Thanks for any help.

Rita Guzzo

Monday, November 18, 2002 at 09:22:38 (PST)
Jack Womack

I am not saying the affair between Abrahan Womack Sr. and Ann Nancy Blanton took place at that time, I was saying that there may be a connection before that took place. Look at this, 17 May 1751. Amelia, VA Court Orders.
"Ordered church wardens of Nottoway Parish to bind out Richard Blanton, Jr., Thomas Blanton, and Archer Blanton."

A short time later that same day:

"Grand jury sworn, Henry Farley, foreman. Presentments: ...........For Abraham Wawmock and Ann Blanton for living in adultery...."

A county payment to his jailer shows that Abraham Womack spent time in jail. It is presumed that it was for the above crime.
The affair between them is well documented by the VA court records. When all the DNA test are returned I will post their findings but for now I have sent you some notes by E mail.

Monday, November 18, 2002 at 19:07:51 (PST)

Thankee fer the splanations - now would someone like me have the same dna stuff as ole Abe if Abe was a brother to one of me great gramps??

And Rita - found some stuff on your Harfords but nil woth much on yer Womacks-sent you a rather long Email whilst ago..

Monday, November 18, 2002 at 20:31:03 (PST)
Molly Strange

Thanks go to Don for trying to match the JD Womack but it's not the same guy. The Jefferson Davis Womack I'm searching for information on was born April 15, 1848 in Copiah County, MS.; died July 24, 1930 in McClain County, Oklahoma. He married Matilda Ann Norman October 07, 1869 in Copiah Co., MS. He is son of Jacob Womack and Kiziah Beard.

I have an extensive family tree, but wish for personal information or any stories associated with this branch of the Womack family tree.

Again, any information on Womack Texas and it's postmaster in 1880's?

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 at 07:27:43 (PST)

Based on the article below, I would assume the postmaster was the owner of the general store for a spell:

WOMACK, TEXAS. Womack is on Farm Road 219 five miles northeast of Clifton and thirty miles northwest of Waco in southeastern Bosque County. It was founded on the James Smith survey, which was deeded to James Pinckney Hendersonqv on March 8, 1852. A post office was established in the German community in Hugh S. Anderson's general store on January 8, 1880, and designated Womack the next month. The post office was discontinued in 1906. Worship services and school lessons were originally held in German. In the 1920s it was not uncommon to find a child exposed to English for the first time at school. The estimated population was forty in 1939, twenty in 1949, and twenty-five in 1974 and 1990.

BIBLIOGRAPHY: Bosque County History Book Committee, Bosque County, Texas, Land and People: History of Bosque County, Texas (Dallas: Curtis Media, 1985). William C. Pool, Bosque Territory (Kyle, Texas: Chaparral, 1964).

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 at 07:48:51 (PST)

From the Jan 2000, WGN Archives...perhaps this may explain something of Jeff D,

Judy Womack

Still looking for help with Jacob and Keziah Womack of Copiah Co.,Miss. Why did their son Samuel change his name to Jefferson Davis Womack in 1859? Is there some kind of link with the Womack family and the family of Jefferson Davis? And what is Keziah's maiden name? I think it was Beasley but will need plenty of muscle to prove it. There's also a marriage link with them to the Norman family.

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 at 09:54:14 (PST)
James Womack

Hey everyone. I just got an e-mail from the Blantons. Their dna results are in and they match up exactly. Now we know it's true. Thomas Womack and Archee Blanton were brothers. I am anxious to hear from the experts as to what this all means. Sam? Roger? When are you guys going to release a book or something on this subject? And... does this dna test tell us who Thomas's father was?

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 at 11:06:17 (PST)
Roger Womack

James, it sure does make things interesting. If Thomas and Archee are the sons of Abraham Womack and Nancy Ann Blanton, which Abraham would he be? I'm going to take a look at all my Abrahams. I'll get back with everyone on this.

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 at 11:54:00 (PST)
Bob Moore

Sam: The simple answer to your question of whether your DNA would match with Jack's if "Old Abe's" brother was your gggrand pap is yes. The father's "Y" chromesome is passed down father to son generation after generation basically unchanged. That is why Jack's DNA matched with several Blanton men's DNA. The DNA loci (markers) can and do mutate over the generations but it is a slow process.
I think it is a wonderful idea if several of the present day surnamed Womack males would have their DNA tested. It is a good way to break down some research barriers "way back." It would also help in making the connection back to "Jolly Old England" or Scotland or where ever it was the immigrant to America Womack came from.
I have had my DNA tested but it won't help solve any Womack issues because I am a MOORE "Y" coming down the ages. The test costs $195 when done in a group.
There is much research going on to figure out more facts - data from DNA.

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 at 17:15:33 (PST)

Wayell Dang!
Ah am gonna do it send me the dang URL where I can request SAME test kit that Jack did - no others - anything other than than a buncha well it is a buncha

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 at 22:17:36 (PST)

Sam - - a hearty thankee!

This is the second time I've had a success story through this website. Judy Womack emailed me her meaty version of our shared lineage. Judy's has generously shared with me her wonderful, story-laden account of the Womack line down through Jefferson Davis and David L. It even comes with detailed information on Minnie Mabel Stracener. Thanks again for your hawk eyes, and thanks to Judy for sharing her research.


Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 01:04:52 (PST)
Kelly Richard Womack

I just found this web-site and I was just wanting to know a couple of things about my family and ancestors. I don't know what info u need so if any one can help me...thanks.

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 10:34:39 (PST)
Jack Womack

I think it would be a good thing for someone else to be tested, maybe more than one. Relative Genetics already has my DNA, hopeful on file and with a few others maybe we can come up with something. The address for Relative Genetucs is 2495 South West Temple, Salt Lake City, Utah 84115 . I would suggest you contact Diahan Southard at 801-461-9760 and discuss it with him.
I would think they could use my DNA profile in a test against yours or any others that wanted to participate in a breakthrough technology. The cost of testing is 195 bucks a pop, and no, they don't want your blood just a cheek cell sample taken by swabbing the insides if the cheeks with a Q tip swab. They will require a Tefal of your genealogy and possibly some supporting info. There is a possibility you can participate in the Blanton project instead. Either way ole Hoss just do it , the suspense is killing me.
My genealogy records indicate there was a William Womack married to an Ann unknown between Abraham Sr (the Sr here may have only been used because there was another Abraham in the 1750 tithables)and Thomas. See them at .
It don't appear that William Womack would fit into the timeline between Abraham and Thomas but I could be wrong. The Blantons are going to do another phase of their project soon but this will be to try to find connections with some of the families that were not presently attached if I read it right.
As for the William Womack thing I believe I got it from you or Rog in the past and have always wondered about it. The Blantons will be posting the results of the testing on their website soon. Please be aware the chart that shows my connection with Thomas is missing William an d Anna Womack between Wm Big Billy and Thomas , dont know if I omitted sending it or if it was left off but it didn't hurt the test. The chart I received shows Jeremiah Blanton tied to Thomas and I would think it would be above him in the chart because Archiee Blanton was a full brother to Thomas and took the Blanton name even tho he was the son of Abraham Womack. As I said before I am only throwing this on the table to kick around so we may learn more. If anyone has more on the Abraham here I would like to share in the info. The Blanton group may own the rights to my DNA being as how they paid for my test but they would likely releaseit to be used in any other testing, they are a nice bunch of people and I appreciate in being allowed to be a part of their pioneering project.

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 11:35:17 (PST)

Do you think it any good if I went thru the Blanton project; or just the one in Utah you mentioned as the shotgun project it appears to be?? I am curious as heck now too! Looks like some other folks might think about the same thang -
Now if we had some DNA from one of the peeps in England - like the father of ole Bishop Lawrence; me thinks we get somewhere - didnt have envelopes they licked back then did they?? I am of the undocumented and unproven theory that our UK progenitor was very closely related to the Bishop as poss a brother or at best a close neffie...oh well you may be me dang grandpa fer all I know!

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 12:21:12 (PST)
Bob Moore

My DNA test was done by Relative Genetics also. Their web site is:

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 12:28:26 (PST)
Bob Moore

Sorry I missed the thing again. Relativbe Genetics web site is:
I think someone needs to get the information on group testing from Relative Genetics and then work on getting as many Womack males on both sides of the Atlantic as possible to be tested. I think that will have a good possibility of showing who our immigrant ancestor was related to. I agree, Sam, he must have been related to the "Ole Bishop" since there were so many who seemed to know of him in this country.

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 14:45:26 (PST)
Jack Womack

Wups! I don't think lickind a stamp will give the y chromosone needed, yer gotta have a Buccal Swab to get the cheek cells. Relative Genetics is the one lab that I know of that does the genetics thing for genealogy but there a lot that does parental testing. I only suggested Rel. Gen. because they already had my DNA.( saves me 195 bucks ).
What would be required to trace back to the Brits would be to have a direct male descendant that could prove his descendensy. The Y chromosome is passed on through the males only and not the females. There seems to be some mutation rate in the Y Chromosome (Ycs) of about 0.003 per generation (I think a generation is considered 25.4 years) so the generations would not matter too much. I noticed in the testing that some donors had a 17.8 generation span.
R.G. would advise you more than I can. Christ I'm an old country boy and don't hold a candle to you guys when it comes to genealogy but I know old Thomas wasn't hatched from an egg. I dont think he had any children who changed their names to Blanton either, mos like tuther way around. Rev. Ya'll git yer heads together an lets figure this out.

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 19:46:12 (PST)

Well Jack,
Ordered the kit - so we see if ye be me gramps er not!!
Too bad we cannot get Dave Maher in Aussie land to do this - he is a descendant of one of ole Bishops brothers - even with a diff last name should show sumpin

Thursday, November 21, 2002 at 06:59:01 (PST)
Frank Womack

My name is Frank Womack and I was born in Dallas, TX in 1958.
My dad was Gerald (Jerry) Womack. He was born in Dallas, TX in 1935 and died in April of 2000.
His dad was David Earl Womack. I don't know when he was born or died so I am having a tough time tracing my roots.
If anyone has any information, please contact me by email.
Many thanks.

Thursday, November 21, 2002 at 14:17:44 (PST)

To All,

For awhile now, I have been receiving emails from a few names I recognize
and others I don't which have a potential virus or unsafe content attached.

It appears some type of virus has attached to one or more individuals
address book.

The emails haven't affected me because I have to physically open each email
which arrives, and I have a virus detector.

I have just been deleting them, and since I am getting tired of receiving
them, I thought maybe by bring the problem to light, those address boxes
affected can be cleaned or something.

The following are the properties on the latest one I received:

message sent by ronnie_ph@yahoo
x-sender: From: "samsawadee" Subject: All rights reserved
MIME-Version: 1
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;

This one mentions Sam, but I have received similar potentially unsafe
from Roger and Dunn.

I haven't opened any of them so I have no idea what they actually say.
It seems obvious that some virus is using someone's address book to send
out emails to those in your address book.

I have sent emails to Sam but not at the above address, and I have mailed
Roger, but I have never sent a message to Dunn. And I have no idea who
ronnie is. In other words my address would be in Sam and Roger's address
book but not in ronnie's address book.

Thanks, if anyone can clean their computers of this virus which is making

Doris Womack Cox

Thursday, November 21, 2002 at 14:41:26 (PST)
Roger Womack

Doris, it's is good to be safe. I don't keep an address book so I know they are not mailed out by me, and I dont open them either. What these sorry dogs are doing is using adresses. I get email from WGN with downloads. I never send email from WGN there is a forwarding from WGN that goes to my when someone sends mail. So when I get mail from WGN I know something is funny. I don't know how they do it but I know it doesnt come from my address book cause I don't have one for that very reason.

Thursday, November 21, 2002 at 15:53:06 (PST)
Jack Womack

To All with a virus problem.
Don't be too quick top blame someone for a virus attempt on your mail box. The virus going around now can spoof the address it is supposed to be sent from.
Big Brother has a bill coming up that will be a boon to us that have to put up with the malicious script writers. They are trying to pass a bill that would give these guys life imprisonment. That would slow some down but not those in other countries where we have no jurisdiction. These guys have programs that search for an open port 80 on anyone that is online. There is a website for those who want to check for a virus in their machine, yes you can have one and not know it. I have posted this before but here goes again. There is a FREE Virus scan to be had at Trend Micro it takes a while to do the first time but is faster the next. I use it along with my Norton AV program. For those that do not have an Anti Virus Program that updates itself online you are at risk. There is a very good Free AV prog. at and it is free for the non commercial use. I sent this before but it was some time back.
Another thing I would like to make everyone aware of is the Spyware and Parasite programs that are placed in your system while you are surfing,. I am not talking about Cookies but the ones that send all your private info to someone for their use or worse for sale. Just yesterday I sent all in my mailbox an article on this and a program to clean them out. I am pasting it here
Many of my friends like surprises -- but they hate
being surprised by "parasites " and "spyware." These programs quietly
install themselves into Windows when you download
other software. They can make your PC more crash-prone
and your hair prematurely gray.

Parasites ride along with music-sharing and other programs.for instance your favorit recipe, news, entertainment site. Sometimes the freeloaders even divert online revenue from legitimate e-businesses.
Anti-virus programs and software firewalls are no longer enough to protect our PCs. Now we also require anti-parasite programs such as Ad-Aware
( ) to clean up for us.
Wasn't personal computing supposed to be fun and easy?

It turns out that the parasite problem isn't as bad as I thought -- it's much worse, they can and do install RATs (remote access Trojans0 in your machine.
The maddening truth is that the creepy crawlers are spreading wildly. The latest count is 10,212 different strains of parasites, including all spyware,
trackware, and RATs (remote access Trojans), according
to the makers of Pest Patrol,

The trouble is deeply entrenched. Kevin Spatz of the
Soft Design Consulting Group in New Jersey reports
that he constantly receives user complaints such as
"My computer is really slow," "It always crashes," and
"I can't get on the Internet anymore."

I recently worked on a friends computer that had became prone to crashing on a regular basis. After defraging the hard drive and cleaning the temporary file cashes, the machine was still running slow and showing signs of unstability.
I then installed the Ad-Aware program and ran it, Boing! he had over 700 spyware and parasite folders and scripts installed on his machine, not counting the regestry entries that was choking his operating system to death.
After running Ad Aware his machine became rock stable and ran 300 percent faster. His ratio of pop up adds and banners dropped also.
I run the program about once a week and always find where someone has placed a spyware or patasite in my files.I sure don't want anyone to track my surfing and shopping preferences least of all copy my mail addresses so they can sell them to some advertiser who will plague my families and friends with unwanted adds.
My advice is to download the Ad-Aware program from and run it at least once a month. It's safe and easy to use even for a novice.
The above was sent and I received this from Candise Womack today.
Many of my friends like surprises -- but they hate
being surprised by "parasites " and "spyware." These programs quietly
install themselves into Windows when you download
other software. They can make your PC more crash-prone
and your hair prematurely gray.

I sent this yesterday and reviewed this from (Candise Womack
thanks for the info I installed and had 302 unwanted items got rid of them all. Not sure what i was doing but everything seams to be running ok no programs not working that i know of . Thanks again for the tip.


Thursday, November 21, 2002 at 16:00:25 (PST)
Jack Womack

Sorry, guys looks like I double posted part of this.

Thursday, November 21, 2002 at 21:25:24 (PST)

Ironically I dont have your address in my address book -

And for those of you who havent tried it, Pest Patrol is worth it - I have it on my laptop and will be putting it on this one shawtly - as in a few as soon as I burn a copy from the Lappy...

I have gotten some wierd e mails, from myself, that I have deleted - someone once said to make up an address such as 000! knowing that it was no good and knowing you would never send to it - this addy goes to the head of your addy list and would be the first out on one of those virus/trojan sends -- and if you got a undeliverable - then you would know something was amiss - I have never got an undeliverable on that one in about 2 years - so mebbe my Nortons and Pest Patrol working?

Friday, November 22, 2002 at 10:09:10 (PST)
Jack Womack

Sam and All
Worms and virus that get into someones mail system can and will use the names there to send itself to all on there using someones name on another list. I have sent myself a few dozen messages myself,at least that is what it said. The virus writers are getting better at finding ways to get you.

This Computer Trick was in an issue of "P C World" magazine. It does work! As you may know, when/if a worm virus gets into your computer it heads straight for your e-mail address book and sends itself to everyone in there, thus infecting all your friends and associates. This trick won't keep the virus from getting into your computer, but it will stop it from using your address book to spread further, and it will alert you to the fact that the worm has gotten into your system. Here's what you do:

First: Open your address book and click on "new contact" or "new person"just as you would do if you were adding a new friend to your list of e-mail addresses.

Second: In the window where you would type your friend's FIRST name,type in !000 (that's an exclamation mark followed by 3 zeros) In the window below where it prompts you to enter the new e-mail address, type in WormAlert@bob,com (actually any will work).

Third: Then complete everything by clicking add, enter, OK, etc. Now, here's what you've done and why it works: the "name" !000 will be placed at the top of your address book as entry #1. This will be where the worm will start in an effort to send itself to all your friends. But when it tries to send itself to !000, it will be undeliverable because of the phony e-mail address you entered (WormAlert). If the first attempt fails (which it will because of the phony address), the worm goes no further and your friends will not be infected. Here's the second great advantage of the method: If an e-mail cannot be delivered, you will be notified of this in your In Box almost immediately. Hence, if you ever get an e-mail telling you that an e-mail addressed to WormAlert could not be delivered, you know right away that you have the worm virus in your system. You can then take steps to get rid of it. If everyone you know does this, then you needn't ever worry about opening e-mail from friends. Pass this on to your friends.

We may get some relief from these morons soon if the bill passes that will give them life for writing them. It won't help protest us from them in countries where we have no jurisdiction.

Friday, November 22, 2002 at 10:42:31 (PST)
Roger Womack

Jack, I edited out all the triple posts. Did you get that file I sent on the notes I gathered on Thomas and Louvisa? I didn't know if you had all of them.

Friday, November 22, 2002 at 13:07:35 (PST)

Jack, et al.,
Before you get too gung ho about using "!000", you might want to read the following from :

'I was kind of hoping that this one would die of its own accord, but no such luck. While not really false, this list of instructions does not really help you prevent infections and could fool you into being careless. For the few worms that remote control your Outlook application, this would tell you that you had already spammed the world with who knows how many worm infected e-mails. For the current crop of worms that spread via e-mail, which contain their own internal mailer, this would do nothing. Your time would be much better spent installing a good antivirus program and keeping it updated.'

This additional information is from :
'Moreover, even those viruses whose spread has been halted via the ruse of a fake address book entry can still be doing damage to the infected user's system. Once an executable file has been opened and run, any virus it contains begins doing its dirty work. Part of that dirty work may amount to mailing itself to others, but if the virus is programmed to do more than just replicate itself via e-mail, it will still be present to wreak havoc on the infected computer. Deleting the infection-carrying e-mail will not halt whatever else may be underway.'
If the links don't show up (I expect they won't), the first one is Hoaxbusters, the second is Snopes. I'll be happy to send the links via email to anyone who is interested. jd

Friday, November 22, 2002 at 13:46:07 (PST)
Jack Womack

Yes I got the file and have just now emailed you at aol, Thanks again.

I did not intend to leave the impression that the PC article would prevent anyone from receiving a virus but would only be an indicator they received one.
Again I say the best way to determine if you have a virus, worm or whatever is to go to Trend Micro and Run the FREE Housecall Virus scan program there.
I agree the best way to prevent a virys is a good Antivirus programs that is updated online with the latest virus definitions. You would be surprised at how many folks out there have obsolete AV applications that came with their PC when they bought it. I run into this almost weekly.
The w32 Klez virus is running its course now, Here are some removal sites for those that are interested. ,, and of these the Symantic tool is the easiest to use. For a "newbie" I would suggest letting a tech remove the virus. I have good luck with infected computers by simply downloading the free AV program at it will detect a virus already installed and has a repair tool that does the trick. the AV then can be deleted if one chooses. I find some removal tools hard to use for the average bear.

Saturday, November 23, 2002 at 12:22:52 (PST)
Jack Womack

It will take me quite some time to put all the info I have received on the likely parents of Thomas. I would like to invite others that have solid info on the Womack lines between 1650 and 1780 to send it to me by email if possible. Things are starting to fall into place but there may be a small bit out there that will make things jell. I will have to set up a Plan A Log to post all the stuff I have in the right family and time slot The William with the Ann spouse fits in there somewhere between 1700 and 1750/6, info is needed on that with sources if possible. There was a William, Abraham Sr. ,Abraham Jr. and an Alexander Womack in the 1750 Amelia Co tithables that I need to sort out. ALL help is appreciated, so come on in and get your feet wet.

Saturday, November 23, 2002 at 12:44:32 (PST)
Roger Womack

This court order below deals the estate of William Womack decíd, son of Thomas Womack sp Mary Farley.
I have a few questions?
1. Who was Avery Womack?
2. Who was Johann Womack?
3. Does any one have proof that John Rice sp Mary Finney were the parents of Louvisa Rice that married Thomas Womack?
4. Is there a connection between Louvisa to these Riceís?

Note: In the below Josiah makes this line clear, He was the son of Abraham Womack sp Elizabeth Stubblefield, who was the son of Abraham Womack, sp Elizabeth, Abraham was the brother of William Womack decíd. Now, Josiahís older brother William Womack who married Lucinda Womack, who was the daughter of Thomas Womack sp Louvisa Rice. I canít help but think these lines are connected. It is also mentioned in other notes I have that they were cousins. So I have doubts about genealogies that connect Thomasí line to John. If Abraham Womack sp Nancy Blanton was the father of Thomas and Archee which one was he? Abraham Jr. that married Elizabeth Stubblefield if he was the father of Thomas then William that married Lucinda was his half brother, making William her half uncle, and husband. This could account for some cover up in the family. Then there is Abraham senior sp Elizabeth. Something is funny here. Abraham and Elizabeth have:
1. Abraham sp Elizabeth Stubblefield he was born abt 1725-1727 He was married Oct 30 1751 in Amelia Co., VA.
2. Elizabeth
3. Mary
4. Abner born Jan 7. 1764.
Now if Elizabeth was, lets say 16 or so when she had Abraham she was in her mid 50ís when she had Abner, This just donít sound right to me. So was this Elizabeth a second spouse that had Abner? I just think Abraham Sr. is the more likely to have been charged in the adultery with Nancy Blanton.

This is just speculation on my part but I would be interested in what others may think?

1816 May 25th. Rec'd of Asa Dupuy, one of the commissioners to the Estate of William Womack, dec'd, of Charlotte County Virginia, the sum of one hundred eighteen dollars and sixty seven cents, that being one fourth of one ninth of that part of the estate of William Womack dec'd that has fallen into the hands of James Dupuy and Asa Dupuy to be divided between the parties interested. I am entitled to an interest in said estate in the manner following, viz., my father, Abraham Womack Jr. of Caswell County, N. Carolina, was a son of Abraham Womack Sen'r of Lincoln County, N. Carolina, which said Abraham Womack Sen'r was a brother of William Womack, dec'd of Charlotte County VA and had four children, to wit, Abraham (who was my father), Elizabeth, Mary and Abner. My grandfather, Abraham Womack Sen'r, was entitled to one ninth of William Womack's estate and my father was entitled to one fourth of my grandfather's interest (viz. a ninth) which said fourth of a ninth I am entitled to under the last will of my father, hereto annexed.
(signed) Josiah Womack
BOOK FOURTEEN 1803 - 1805

4 March 1803

Pg 11 Pleasant Robards, Stephen Robards, Joshua Robards, William Robards, Arthur Robards, Fanny Irby, who was Fanny Robards, Judy Chandler, who was Judy Robards; children of Martha Robards who was Martha Womack; Plaintiffs vs Thomas Womack, adm'r of William Womack, dec'd, and William Womack, son of Francis Womack, dec'd, Avery Womack, Elizabeth Cauthorn, who was Elizabeth Womack, John Spraeling and Mary his wife, which sd Mary was Mary Womack; children of Abraham Womack, dec'd, William Womack, Mary Owen, who was Mary Womack, and Martha Womack; children of Johann Womack and Francis Rice, Thomas Rice, Samuel Rice, Abraham Rice, Johann Rice, Fanny Rice, Molly Cheatham who was Molly Rice, Elizabeth Puckett, who was Elizabeth Rice; children of Sarah Rice, dec'd, who was Sarah Womack, Francis Hamilton, Daniel Owen & Mary his wife, who was Mary Hamilton, children of Judy Hamilton, who was Judy Womack, Mary Mann, who was Mary Womack, Josiah Hatchett, Joseph Talbot and Martha, his wife who was Martha Hatchett, Judith Funkening, who was Judith Hatchett, and William Hatchett, children of Elizabeth Hatchett who was Elizabeth Womack; Defendants - a suit in chancery.
. . . ordered that the land and slaves be sold and the proceeds be divided into nine parts , one ninth to the heirs of Martha Robards; one ninth to Thomas Womack; one ninth to William Womack, son of Francis Womack; one ninth to the heirs of Abraham Womack; one ninth to the heirs of Johann Womack; one ninth to the heirs of Sarah Rice; One ninth to the heirs of Judith Hamilton; one ninth to the heirs of Elizabeth Hatchett; one ninth to Mary Mann -- brothers & sisters of the intestate.
BOOK FIFTEEN 1805 - 1807

Saturday, November 23, 2002 at 14:14:56 (PST)
Roger Womack

There is a lot of confusion on the Thomasí in these early records. Thomas Womack who married Sarah Woodson is not the Thomas son of Thomas and Mary Farley. Thomas Womack, son of Thomas Womack and Mary Farley is the Thomas who married Mary, See below:

Thomas Womack (c.1728-Feb. 1804), appears first on record on the 1753 Amelia County Tithe list near his brother William Womack. On 1 Oct. 1754, when he and his brother Isham sold the land left them jointly in their father's will, 130 acres in Chesterfield County adjoining Rocky Run, a North Branch of Swift Creek (Chesterfield DB 2: 44 ), Thomas Womack is designated "of Amelia County." In 1754, the part of Amelia in which he lived became Prince Edward County. He appears first on record in Prince Edward on 12 Apr. 1757, when Matthew Rice purchased a tract on thee branches of Sandy River adjoining Thomas Womack and his own land 9 PE DB 1: 91). On 14 Mar. 1758, Thomas Womack purchased 100 acres on Rice's Branch ( DB 1: 146 ), which he sold on 18 Nov. 1771 ( DB 4: 60 ), his wife Mary relinquishing her right of dower ( OB, 1771-1781 : 78a).

COULD THIS BE THOMAS on the Chesterfield County 1783 tax list with 6 whites and 6 blacks in his household??? If not, who is it?

In 1785, he appears on the Amelia County tax digest with 5 whites, two dwellings, and two other buildings. Thomas is found on the 1787 Amelia list, next to his nephew Step Roberts, with no white male tithable in addition to himself. In 1789, Nottoway Parish of Amelia County became Nottoway County; subsequent records show him in Nottoway. In 1790, Thomas was appointed executor of the estate of his brother William in Charlotte Co. In 1798 in Nottoway County, "Shadrack Holt {was appointed} surveyor of Pulliam's Road from said Miller's to Prince Edward Line. Hands of Shadrack and John Holt, Edward Jones, Thomas Womack, William Singleton, William Harper and Silas Fore to work it" (Walter A. Watson Notes on Southside Virginia, p. 79). According to the Charlotte County estate papers of William Womack, his brother Thomas Womack administrator of the estate, died "a day or two before the sale" of William's slaves, which occurred on 4 Feb.1804. Thomas left a will in Nottoway Co., dated 14 Dec. 1803 (WB 1:78) naming his wife Mary, a daughter Martha Hurt and a grandson Anthony Hurdly (?) Womack--to whom he left "my interest in the estate of my brother William Womack."

Thomas Womack Will, Nottoway WB 2: 78 1803-1809. (will extract)
I Thomas Womack of Nottoway Co., Virginia leave wife Mary all Estate, after her death, to my daughter Martha Hurt, negroes Dick, Bet and Esther also the Mill I purchased of John Philips with land & app_ _t also 1/2 stock except sow & pigs & 2 cows & calves, also 1/2 household furn. to her and her heirs forever.

To grandson Anthony (Hurdly ?) Womack tract of land where I now live & negroes Lanny & Miles also 1 sow & pigs & 2 cows & calves also 2 best feather beds & bedsteads, 1 walnut cupboard & 1 desk. also my int in estate of my brother William Womack. also 1/2 of my household & kitchen furn & all my plantation utensils. To my grandau Mary Edwards Hurt, 1 feather bed & furn. No appraisal of my estate wife Mary sole Exec 14 Dec 1803.

In pres of Edward Jones ( signed ) Thomas Womack
W Weddle
Spotswood Jones
proved April 5, 1804
Hubert Mcalexander Jr. e-mail: wrote:

(Thomas Womack, sp Sarah Woodson)

Thomas (1706--1780) is established as a son of Richard (c.1676-1723) and wife Elizabeth (no evidence of her maiden name) by an evaluation of the land records. Thomas's holding on Sappony Creek evidently came from his father Richard Jr. His brothers Richard and Matthew are also involved in land transactions on Sappony Creek. These three also appear in 1736 lower Henrico Co. Quit Rent Roll.

I do have Richard's wife as Elizabeth Puckett, based off of others, but have seen nothing to prove that.

Sunday, November 24, 2002 at 10:02:05 (PST)

Water is jest fine!
The Alexander Womack you find in Amelia is James Alexander Sr, sp Martha (some say last name is Alexander, I say Martha ?), Son of the Richard and Elizabeth (Puckett?) alliance -- he is my 6th great grandpa - I know it aint Alex Jr as Jr wasnt born till abt 1742ish - And the only Alexanders I know of are my 5th and 6th - the James comes from Jrs son who was James Alexander III and whose son was James Alex IV - so that sorta nails two older ones down, methinks..
Alex Sr had brother Richard III father of Major Jacob (who often gets confused with my 4th great)--and Roger and I tentatively have a Thomas there that we are unsure of---just no place to put him yet --
The only other Alexander's I can put are
Alexander son of Abner and Agnes Reed Womack abt 1805
Alexander Pendleton son of James Smith and Dorcas Hill Womack early 18's
Alexander Roosevelt son of ? and Refugia Escalante Womack 1908-1941 in AZ
and well Alex Rogers son Sherwood and Nancy ? Womack in GA date unknown

Sunday, November 24, 2002 at 10:03:36 (PST)
kelly richard womack

I can tell you the names of my immedate family and thats all i know

Sunday, November 24, 2002 at 13:03:03 (PST)
Jack Womack

can you e mail me a Tefal on Richard and the descendants down to 1800.
Time line is important as I dont have anything on your line.

Sunday, November 24, 2002 at 19:33:20 (PST)

I am looking for a Delbert Womack, lived in or around Pacific, Mo. He married a Joyce Hackworth from Iron, Co. Mo. My husbands father was raised by them or he lived with for periods of time. Sorry, don't have much on this. Thanks for any response. Donna

Sunday, November 24, 2002 at 20:27:19 (PST)
Teresa Wommack

This goes to Robert James Wommack, Elijah everett Wommack is the Father of My father Henry wommack.Elijah was married to Lille Martin. My dad past away in april of 2000, i never knew any of his family because of the age diffrence between him and my mom. My internet always messes up so the only way we can talk is through mail.. i would really like it if you wrote me. my addreess is
Rt 4 box 106
Clarksville , TX

Sunday, November 24, 2002 at 20:28:19 (PST)
Paul N. Womack

Been out scouring the hills of western Kentucky and have found 4 Womack graves out in a timber. Most important of these are the graves of O C Womack 1812-1887 and O C Womack 1862-1903. I would love to be able share my findings with descendants of Oliver Clayton Womack Jr, son of Oliver Clayton Womack Sr, son of David Womack and Esther Tanner because they are not buried where the books say they are. Also buried here is an E. Womack who died 6 Sept 1844. I believe this to be the grave of O C Womack Sr., first wife, Easter (or Esther) Mooney.

Sunday, November 24, 2002 at 20:45:29 (PST)
Teresa Wommack

I really don't know how to explain but my father is the son of Elijah Wommack. I'm only 15 years-old , my father is old enough to be my grandfather, that is why i don't know my grandparents or any of my aunts and uncles. My internet and e-mail seems to fail quite often so if you reply i wont get to it. My father past away in April 2000, he had a marriage before the one with my mother. He had a Daughter Linda and two sons Gary and Larry. I really don't know any of my fathers part of the family, but i do remember a reunion that took place in Azel Texas years back. If you have any information or anything , please mail me (internet always fails)
Rt.4 Box 106
Clarksville, TX 75426
Teresa Wommack

Sunday, November 24, 2002 at 23:22:40 (PST)
Roger Womack

Teresa, Elijah's father was Jefferson Davis Wommac, sp Emma Burkhalter.
Son of Elijah John Womack, sp Sarah Ann Horn.
Son of William Womack, sp Elizabeth Sheppard.
There are others working this line. Hopefully someone will get in touch.

Monday, November 25, 2002 at 15:04:54 (PST)
Bob Moore

Hello All: I have a new E-mail address (Can't tolerate AOL another day.) thats "Lake Tahoe On Line."
Also while searching today I found on the Scioto, Ohio web site this reference taken from the Ironton Register of Ironto, Ohio published 7 March 1872.
It is from a letter by Rev. Gilruth, "David Forrister - His oldest daughter
was a fine looking young woman. She married William Wamach of Greenup
County, Kentucky." The time period Rev. Gilruth is refering to is 1800 - 1810
in Lawrence County, Ohio. He didn't give the given name of Miss Forrester.
The spelling of "Wamach" is as given in the article.

Tuesday, November 26, 2002 at 09:27:35 (PST)
Ray B Womack

Are you sending out private messages to individuals. I receive one today which I did not think was sent by you, therefore I deleted it.
Ray Bryan

Tuesday, November 26, 2002 at 19:52:48 (PST)
Darrel and Judy Womack

I got an e-mail from WGN, about up dating our information. I think that is a good way of keeping all records up to date.

Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 15:11:42 (PST)
Beth Howser

To all of our Womack cousins,

I hope everyone will enjoy your families tomorrow with lots of wonderful food, and fellowship. Please remember the freedoms that our grandparents celebrated this date many years ago. And pray for peace. Happy Thanksgiving!

Beth Howser

Friday, November 29, 2002 at 05:14:17 (PST)
Johnny Womack Case

Roger, first, I haven't communicated with you in a long time and just wanted to say how much I am still impressed with you. I read all the messages and you are so prompt and helpful to everyone. Hope you have time to keep up the good work.

next, I would like to contact Teresa Wommack because if she is desc. from Elija John and Sara Ann Horn, we are surely related, but I cannot find her father where you said in your message. For children of Elijah E. Wommack & Lilly Martin I only have: Emma Louise, Willie Cloise, Everett Winnard, Foye Virginia and Perry Martin. Did I miss out on Henry somewhere? (didn't Teresa say her father was Henry?)

Friday, November 29, 2002 at 07:08:41 (PST)
Tina P

I am in search of Patrick Brueax last time I saw him was at Job
Corps in Oklahoma (Tulsa, Oklahoma) I have to get in touch with him.

Friday, November 29, 2002 at 09:53:39 (PST)
Roger Womack

Johnny Womack Case, the two missing are Henry Ford Wommack and Dorothy.

CLARKSVILLE - Henry Ford Wommack, 69, retired from the meat packing industry, died Saturday, April 15, 2000, at a Clarksville hospital.
Funeral: 10 a.m. Tuesday at Friendship Baptist Church in Clarksville. Graveside service: 4 p.m. Tuesday in Laurel Land Memorial Park in Fort Worth.
Henry Wommack was born on Sept. 22, 1930, in Marietta, Texas. His family moved to Fort Worth in 1940. He was a 1949 graduate of North Side High School and attended TCU. He served in the Air Force during the Korean War. He began his career in the meat industry with Armour and Company in Fort Worth in 1950. He was employed by several meat packing companies including Kane Cattle Company, Missouri Beef Packers, Estes Packing Company, Patterson Meat Company, Alta Verde Packing Company and others before retiring in Clarksville.
He was a member of Masonic Lodge No. 81 in Brownesville, Texas, and Moslah Temple in Fort Worth. He was an active member of Friendship Baptist Church in Clarksville.
Survivors: Wife, Alicia; sons, Gary Wommack and his wife, Jackie, of Azle, Larry Wommack and his wife, Babette, of Baton Rouge, La.; daughters, Linda Hill-Savell and her husband, Ray, of North Richland Hills, and Allison and Terry Wommack of Clarksville; sister, Dorothy Ball of Arlington; grandchildren, Weston Wommack, Lauren and Heather Wommack, and Brandon, Andrew and Hunter Hill; and great-grandchild, Cayenne Leigh Hill. Clarksville Funeral Home Clarksville, (903) 427-
Publication Date: April 18, 2000
Source: The Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Page: 7;8;9
Region: Dallas-Ft. Worth Metro, Texas

Friday, November 29, 2002 at 16:34:36 (PST)
Ann McDonald

Ladies and Gentlemen - a request from the Marines - for a reunion, they are looking for Joe D. Womack who went to U of New Mexico and joined the Marines in 1957. Sadly, the only Joe D I could come up with who meets most of these criteria passed away in CA - one Joe Don Womack b. 5 Jul 1935 in NM d. 1 Aug 1996 in San Bernadino CA, mother's maiden name GOODE. If someone could confirm or refute that this is their guy, or has an obit on him, or otherwise knows their guy, they would be grateful. Thanks! Ann

Friday, November 29, 2002 at 17:50:42 (PST)
Roger Womack

I have a Joe Dan Womack, b July 10, 1931, died March 6, 1998 and buried in Restland Cemetery, Shelby Co., Texas. Son of Marvin Newton Womack and Rosa Lee McDaniel, also from Shelby Co., Texas. I don't have anything on military.

Friday, November 29, 2002 at 20:43:36 (PST)
Denine Rough

Joe D. Womack???? I recieved an e-mail from a fella looking for Joe D. Womack. They are having a U.S. Marine reunion in May of 2004. He asked if I could try to locate him so here goes: He attended the University of New Mexico in the mid 1950's before being commissioned a 2nd Lieutenant in the U.S. Marine Corps in 1957. His first assignment was as a student at the Marine Officers Basic School in Quantico, Virginia, where he joined the 4/57 basic Class. this Basic Class is holding its 5th Reunion in Washington, D.C. and Quantico, Virginia in May of 2004. They have been unable to locate Joe to invite him to this reunion. The sender asked if I might be able to help or a genealogical expert in the Womack Family who might be able to help them. So of course I came here for help. Any one know Joe? if so could you e-mail me at Thanks Denine Rough, gr grandaughter of Nancy Womack

Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 19:01:52 (PST)
Roger Womack

Was looking through some probate records and came across this, does anyone have the connections to this bunch of Womacks?

156. WOMACK, Jesse, deceased. Bond of John WOMACK, administrator Februar 26,1827. Securities: Walter G. HOGAN, Alvis NOLAN. Heirs: Nancy HIX of Lawrence County, Arkansas Territory William WOMACK of Crawford County, Arkansas; Territory; the heirs of Betsey COCHRAN living in Lawrence County, Arkansas Territory; and Polly GRAY, Pleasant WOMACK, Satsey WOMACK, Phebe WOMACK, Jinny WOMACK, and Nicy WOMACK--all of Lawrence County, Arkansas Territory.

Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 21:10:19 (PST)
Helen King

Elizabeth Womack, daughter of Thomas and Mary Farley Womack, is my 4th Greatgrandmother. She was born abt 1710 in Henrico or Chesterfield Co. Va. Married John Hatchett son of John and Elizabeth Bass Hatchett. She had four children, John, Martha who married Joseph Talbert, Judith, and Josiah who married Tabitha Hatchett, his cousin. I need info on Elizabeth's parents and siblings.

Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 22:03:45 (PST)

Roger, This Bunch:


WARMACK, George.........Lawrence........1829
WARMACK, John...........Lawrence........1829
WOMACK, David...........Izard...........1829
WOMACK, David...........Crawford........1829
WOMACK, Jacob...........Crawford........1829
WOMACK, John............Crawford........1829

WAMACK, John.......Lawrence......Current River Twp...............1829
WARMAC, Isaac......Conway Co.....Welborn Twp.....................1829
WOMAC, Larkin......Washington....Prairie Twp.....................1829
WOMACK, David......Crawford......North of AR River...............1829
WOMACK, Jacob......Crawford......Clark Twp.......................1829
WOMACK, John.......Crawford......North of AR River...............1829
WOMACK, Johnson....Crawford......North of AR River...............1829
WOMACK, William....Crawford......Upper Twp.......................1829

Methinks most of them that Larkin bunch?

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