October 2002 Message Archive

Wednesday, October 02, 2002 at 11:00:49 (PDT)

I found this on the WORSHAM message board and was wondering if the info was correct.A Jamie Ayres submitted it.

Thomas WOMACK, s/o Abraham & Sarah (WORSHAM) WOMACK
b: c 1664 Bristol Parish,H, Va;
d:November 1773 Bristol Parish,H,Va.



Wednesday, October 02, 2002 at 17:30:07 (PDT)
Roger Womack

"IN THE NAME OF GOD AMEN The four and Twentieth Day of March in the year of our Lord one Thousand Seven hundred & Thirty Two,Three, I Thomas Womack Senr. of Henrico County being in perfect Sense and Memory .....

Jackie, I don't know if it is or not, I think he was born a little later but really don't know. In Thomas' will he states "being in perfect Sense and Memory" and clearly says in the line before "one Thousand Seven hundred & Thirty Two,Three," I'm not sure he had perfect memory?

according to the records if they are correct:
At the Court held for Henrico County the first Monday in January 1733: This last Will and Testament of Thomas Womack Deceasd was presented by the Executrickx upon Oath, and the Same being proved by the Oaths of Nathaniel Tanner & james Akin Two of the Witnesses thereto it was thereupon Admitted to record.
Test. Bowler Cocke ClCur."

If this is record is correct, the court was held the first Monday in Jan 1733, which means he died in 1732, so his will would seem to have been written in March of 1732. As far as a November death in 1732, I've not seen that anywhere on record, but possible.


Wednesday, October 02, 2002 at 20:11:52 (PDT)
Deborah Driskill

Just stumbled across your web page. It is absolutely incredible. I am very new at this ... so hope this request is not impertinent. My ggggg-grandmother was Anne Womak born 1745 (?) married Daniel Driskill before 1770, Ablemarle (?) Virginia. That is all the information I have on her. I would love to know where she came from. Any information would be appreciated.


Wednesday, October 02, 2002 at 22:50:05 (PDT)
Laurie Dale

My great great grandfather was Peter Womacks and his wife's name was Jenny (Jennifer) and they had a son named Walter and adopted a son named Roy. Roy was my Great Grandfather. Is there any more family information on these names that I have given you. Roy and his wife Anna Peterson Womacks are both buried in Corning CA. I have been through this site and found it very interesting and if there is more please send it on to me. Thank you.


Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 07:43:52 (PDT)
Jack Womack

Ann was the daughter of Alexander Womack b.abt 1708 in Henrico Co VA and died aft. Aug. 26, 1782 in Campbell Co VA. He married Martha Alexander Dec. 13, 1742. Martha was born abt. 1720.
Ann was b. abt. 1745 and married Adam Driskill. I think this is more in Roger Womacks line, the webmaster of WGN. I'm sure Sam can fill in a lot of blanks also. I'll send you four generations of what I have in my database but I don't have any descndants for Ann and Adam.


Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 07:50:51 (PDT)
Jack Womack

Typo in addy in previous posting. WELL nobody is PERFECT!


Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 12:34:32 (PDT)

I'm astonished!! you not perfect!! ah the agony of defeat!!

Anyway, where is everyone getting Alexander as Martha's last name?? I know I have it tentatively; but only because many others do...


Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 14:22:26 (PDT)
Jack Womack

Hey Sam.
In my database I have a big question mark after Martha's Alexander name ??
Shucks I ain't even sure of ole Adams name , some have it as Daniel and some Adam Damiel. Can't wait to get into the hearafter and meet some of these people, nope I ain't going to commit sideways and rush things. Just want to meet ole Thomas and find out who his daddy was. Then I'll get on the Beyond Show and tell you.


Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 19:02:20 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Laurie, I think most of us Womack's are connected back there somewhere no matter how the spelling, I have over 40 different spellings in my database and Sam has a few more he has gathered. Your Peter is, Peter Shaw Womacks, son of Terry Womacks sp. Roxanna Reynolds. Peter first married Amanda Heaton, had about 12 children the married 2nd., Jane (Jennie/Jennifer) Elizabeth Huster. Peter and Jennie had Etta and Walter and adopted Roy Womacks who's birth name was Roy Gilbert. Glad to see more of the Womacks on WGN.


Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 19:11:59 (PDT)
Bob Reese

For Rae Summers. Your Sarah Womack was born in Gallatin Co., IL, the oldest child of Green and Polly Wallace Womack. Green was born in 1788 in NC to William and Rebecca Parker Womack. William's parents were Thomas and Sarah Owens Womack. From there on back the line gets fuzzy, but I have it shown as Abraham and Mary Puckett? Womack and John and Mary Akin Womack. It is often said that John's parents were William and Mary Allen Womack, but if you read the messages on this website you'll see that there is no real proof.

Bob Reese


Friday, October 04, 2002 at 08:18:56 (PDT)
Roger Womack

If anyone receives email from WGN and it has file attachments, do not open them. I don't know if these are harmless or what but over the past few months I have received several from WGN and I didn't send them to myself. It may be these spammers using your own address, just a concern.


Friday, October 04, 2002 at 09:32:26 (PDT)
Jack Womack

This is not spammers but the KLEZ e mail virus replicating itself from somebodys address book that has the WGN addy in it. The virus has the capability of spoofing the WGN address and using the address book to mail to all the addys stored there. I received one from myself also and one from WGN, both were spoofed senders addys. If there are any WGN users that do not have a good Anti-Virus progran that updates itself automatically there is one of the best FREE at this URL http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_index.htm. This AV program also has repair capabilities for all known Virus. Trend Nicro also has a free online virus scan to check for an infected mail box at http://housecall.antivirus.com/. Better to be safe than loose your ged files.


Friday, October 04, 2002 at 09:58:59 (PDT)
JAck Womack


I forgot to mention you do NOT have to register to run Housecall, there is a link to do so. Everyone should do this even if they think their system is not infected because worms and virus get by many AV programs that are not updated often. A Virus does not necessarly have to come in an attachment but can be embedded in sound and picture files as well as some guest books on Websites( someone put one in my guest book once embedded in their return addy and I got the sucker when I clicked on it). Housecall can repair most virus and worms also.
Roger, ask SAM how I get rid of the scam letters from the artist saying they have a lot of money and need a partners bank in the US to deposit it too. I would post it on the WGN but someone might take offence to it.


Friday, October 04, 2002 at 15:08:26 (PDT)
Laurie Dale

Thank you again for the info you have given us. We now have more questions if you can answer them. We have lost track of Walter Womacks. The brother to Roy Womacks. Born Apr. 2, 1882: Died Nov. 1967, in Chula Vista CA. This town of Chula Vista CA is not what my mother had found in a family bible that says Walter Womacks may have been laid to rest in San Diego CA. There still is a burial plot for him in Corning. My mom wanted to also know if he got remarried and has any kids. His first wifes name was Dora Tyson Womacks and she died on Nov. 10, 1915 and she it buried in the Womack family plot in Corning at Sunset Hills.


Saturday, October 05, 2002 at 06:53:22 (PDT)

Just came from Ancestry.com and I cannot believe the stupidity of people hastening to post there and say, "Look what I did!" On oane of my lines, not Womack, there were about 15 posts by the same person all the same.. now if that dont frost a researchers knickers when trying to search and show the lack of consideration for one's feller researchers, I dont know what will!

I also saw where someone failed to merge all their information, so one person had the same set of parents twice, and one had the same wife 4 times -- musta been using FTM sause if'n ya dont watch that booger it will get ya evah time!

Ive found the best thing is to take about 5 generations into an outline descendant tree, starting with the earliest date, and looking for dupes and correcting them, then the same over and over until I totally eliminate them from my file..

Well off to download Eudora to set up my webmaster accounts again since that crash eliminated Eudora from my puter -- sure gonna be fun doing that again!!

By the way, I think that collectively we have about the most comprehensive data base on one surname in the world -- albeit somewhat fragmented at times.

And David Dunn you saw David Maher's answer on that Henry of 1628 didnt you?


Saturday, October 05, 2002 at 06:58:34 (PDT)

Yes Rog,
I think collectively we have about 87 different spellings of our last name..
When I can find the URL again, its out there somewhere, I will post again for all to see just how many and how different, yet close, they all are.
one of the last I found in Germany is so close it cannot be ruled out -- WOMBECK..And dont forget the original Womack Genealogy folks found the name disguised as Weymouth and Wilmoth --


Sunday, October 06, 2002 at 15:47:13 (PDT)
Ann McDonald

Laurie, well, according to the California Death Index, Walter T. Womacks died in San Diego as well let's see if I can copy that info over for you - you can always look up a death certificate for him from CA to see if it says what funeral home was used or see if there was an obituary in either the Chula Vista or San Diego papers.

California Deaths, 1940-97


And it's not uncommon for people to have multiple burial plots. I know that there are plots in Arkansas, Mississippi and here in Maryland that I could get buried in depending on where I drop dead. And yes, folks, I'm sort of back on line - the addition to the house is complete (well, except for the curtains and stuff, which I still have to sew) the new doggie has moved in, and things are somewhat less insane here. 8-) Ann


Sunday, October 06, 2002 at 21:30:48 (PDT)

Anyone got any idee who this Jacob belongs to??

Birth: 1824 Tennessee
Death: Feb 1904 Yellville, , Arkansas
Father: Wilson WILMOTH
Mother: Keziah COOPER
Spouse: Wilson MOORE
Spouse: Jacob WOMACK Marriage: 31 Oct 1848 , White Co., Tn??<<----here!
Spouse: Alexander GOAD 1862, Madison Co, Arkansas
Spouse: Thomas BURNS

About her marriage to Goad - also a photo of her and him..


Sunday, October 06, 2002 at 22:12:29 (PDT)

Abraham m. Martha Mitchell, second wife Martha Watkins
Did he have any children by Martha(2)?? It would seem so since she was roughly 20 years younger than he and about 21 or so when they married..
I tracked a Jacob Milledge Womack who died in Mesa Az(1922) back to Abe and wife 1 thru Mansel and wife 2.


Monday, October 07, 2002 at 08:33:55 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Sam, I'm not sure but I would take a good look at Jacob who was living with Johnson Womack, he first married Ruth. He may be Johnson's son. This is the same Johnson that I believe may also be Larkin's father who married Frances Basye. They ended up in Madison Co., Arkansas, where Jane Wilmoth LDS, have Jane Womack, married Alexander Goad in Madison Co., in 1862.

1840 - Richland Twp., Madison, Arkansas. Shows Jacob Womack, 30 to 40 years and 1 female 40-50 years.

1850 -

1860 - Madison, Arkansas. Shows Jacob Womack, age 61, born in Tennessee and Ruth Womack, age 61, born in South Carolina.

1837 WAMACK JACOB Madison Co., AR 013 Arkansas Territory Tax list AR 1830-1839 Tax Lists Index 
1837 WAMACK JOHN, Madison Co., AR 013 Arkansas Territory Tax list AR 1830-1839 Tax Lists Index 
1837 WAMACK JOHNSON Madison Co., AR 013 Arkansas Territory Tax list AR 1830-1839 Tax Lists Index

Monday, October 07, 2002 at 11:41:24 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Sam, another Jacob was the son of John J, also I believe to be a son of Johnson.
1860 - Madison, Arkansas. Shows John Womack, age 65, born in South Carolina; Nancy Womack, age 58, born in Tennessee; Elizabeth Womack, age 23, born in Arkansas; Nancy Womack, age 20, born in Arkansas; Jacob Womack, age 17, born in Arkansas; and Martha Womack, age 13, born in Arkansas.

Larkin had a son named Jacob also, too many Jacobs in Arkansas. But he ended up in Texas. John J's, Jacob was born abt., 1842, I think he would have been 18 or 19 years younger than Jane Wilmoth, but I still think the Jacob that married Jane is a descendant of Johnson.


Monday, October 07, 2002 at 12:26:29 (PDT)

Look at the dates on that Jacob and Jane Wilmoth thang - she remarried in 1862/3 to Goad - the census shows a Jacob with a Ruth in 1861 -- also the marriage of Jacob and Jane was given as I had it there, in 1848 -- so Jacob died before 1862/3 somewhere. And, she remarried Goad --


Monday, October 07, 2002 at 15:13:03 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Sam, I noticed that, maybe Ruth is Jane. Just about every census I read on my own family the ages are wrong, they either spell the surname wrong or their given names, or have, some god-awfull nickname that only those involved understood, because by the next census they went by something else or they got a census enumerator less educated than the last one and they gave the family a whole new set of names. Thank goodness for those censuses, but, my my my!!!


Monday, October 07, 2002 at 18:23:56 (PDT)

No, Sam, I don't think I saw a message from a Maher about Henry. Where?


Monday, October 07, 2002 at 20:59:57 (PDT)

David D
This one
Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 23:11:32 (PDT)
Dave Maher
hi sam,
haven't been in touch for a while,
the Henry Womocke you mention, was married to a Ann, they had two children,
Salathiel Womack, and a Henry Womach, that was a Tailor in London.
This is the guy we wer trying to get the 1628 will on...


Tuesday, October 08, 2002 at 13:30:11 (PDT)
Laurie Dale

Laurie here, I have some more questions to ask if they can be answered. 1. I have tracked Walter Womacks back to San Deigo area, (thanks Ann for that info.) Did Walter have any kids?. My mom, aunt and g aunt did not think so, but do not know for sure. There are family stories that Walter had gotten into some trouble with the law and gggrandmother Jenny had to go to help him out of it, then he got into more trouble and at that point she had refused to help anymore and disowned him, thus he was considered a black sheep. They family then had next heard back from him only after gggrandmother Jenny had died. He came back to Corning for the reading of the will. Only to discover that nothing was left to him. This is the very last that anyone had heard from him. Did he marry and have family of his own? If so, we would love to know them. They are not black sheep to us. Is the researcher Daniel Ray Womacks a relative of his? This I had found by going through the archive records. 2.I know the Etta Womacks, Peter Shaw and Jenny's daughter died young, 14 or 15 yrs. old, what did she die from? Where is she buried? In Russelville, Ohio? 3. I know Roy Hunter Womacks was adopted by Peter Shaw and Jenny in Russelville. Mom found a very old newspaper article matching the name the Roger had sent me, Gilbert. The twins a boy (Roy Hunter Womack) and a girl(?) Was she adopted too? Could we posible find her or could you point me in a direction to look in for her? These twins were left on the door step of a Mr. Henry. What can we find out about this all? Thanks.


Tuesday, October 08, 2002 at 17:15:54 (PDT)
Ann McDonald

Sam, I'm not at my computer that has the Womack files at the moment, I'm on a Mac catching up on my mail and email. But that should be Martha Watkins? - the name Watkins is deduced from the fact that someone named a kid Martha Watkins something or other. Anyway, yes, there are kids from the second marriage. There were, I'm thinking quickly here, 5 kids, 3 girls and 2 boys - now, I've lost the boys - the families that Carl gives for them in GA are I think the wrong ones. I know one is William, I think the other is Jesse. Then of the 3 girls, I think I only have one line followed - I'm thinking here that it's Sarah, Elizabeth and ...Lucy? I'll have to look on the other computer which is the one with the line followed. Anyway, I have a copy of Abraham's will around someplace. The second wife survived him and the kids were mostly minors. I'm thinking if you have a line proved from one of the boys, it's news to me! So, I'll check the other computer and see. The second family is one I've particularly been trying to clear up. Well, that and Martha Mitchell Womack's ancestry in NC/VA I'll see if I can find it in my copious free time tomorrow and email you. Ann


Tuesday, October 08, 2002 at 21:28:33 (PDT)



Wednesday, October 09, 2002 at 05:23:40 (PDT)
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Wednesday, October 09, 2002 at 06:57:19 (PDT)

I wouldnt say it was proved, but some of the names came from census data for AZ, then where it showed they were born in TX, went that direction, then used Ancestry and LDS as fillers -- and because of some of the dates of death, was able to locate on SSDI--If I remember off the top of me head, Freestone Co TX
was the TX location.


Wednesday, October 09, 2002 at 10:17:57 (PDT)
Ann McDonald

Sam, I am back on my big PC, having (I hope) beaten the Mac back into shape and rescuing it from the spinning beach ball of death by deleting Internet Explorer. Anyway, I had the names of the 5 known kids right for Abraham and Martha Watkins? Womack. The only line I've followed down with any accuracy is that of Elizabeth who married Benjamin Coleman and ended up in Greene Co, and Butler Co., AL hanging around with the rest of the family. I am fairly sure that the lines Carl has for both Jesse and William are wrong. That would be the 2 marriages in Monroe Co., GA and then the family of William with a son Mansel Eugene and other kids in 1850 in GA - I just don't see it connecting up. There are just too many Williams and Jesses to distinguish in the area, and the name Mansel is NOT unique to this family line, since it shows up as Richard Mansel in at least 2 others. I suspect that what happened is that someone saw that kid Mansel, said, hey his father must be William son of Abraham. Nah, you need more than that.

Now, Freestone Co., TX is a hotbed of my family, however, so let me see if I can figure out who that might be. Ok, a couple of Mansel's kids ended up in Freestone Co including a couple of grandkids who married some Womack cousins....so there were definately a lot of Womacks running around. In particular, I'm thinking about Noland Lewis Womack, and his brother John B. Womack's family who moved to TX after John B died, and I think Jacob, a son of John son of Abraham, who was the county clerk in Freestone Co. Anyway, I don't have any detail down to someone moving to Mesa, most of those lines I have petering out ca. 1880 or so. If I drift around the 1900 census, I may be able to connect some dots for you....Ann


Wednesday, October 09, 2002 at 14:26:42 (PDT)
Philip Noland Lowe

I have been reading your site for some time but this is my first posting.

The Jacob Millege Womack that died in AZ in 1922 was my mother's brother. He was the son of Robert Noland Womack and Ida Allen Reynolds. They had nine children. Robert was the son of Noland Lewis Womack and Jane Livingston. They moved to Freestone Co., TX about 1856 from Butler Co., AL. I believe Ann has all the information that I have preceding that time.

If anyone would like further information on Noland Lewis Womack's desendants, I will provide what I have.



Thursday, October 10, 2002 at 12:39:12 (PDT)

Thanks for your feedback - I was looking thru the census stuff and started copying all the Womacks, et al spellings, I could find in AZ 1920ish..
then worked with the census, Ancestry, and the LDS IGI to find the others and
then look them up on censuses -- obviously I am missing many offspring - If you dont mind posting or emailing them to Roger and I, and of course Ann and any others that would like to update and add to their data base, we would certainly appreciate it --

If anyone has looked up the 1880 census for Jackson CO AL yet, and found an odd Thomas or TA Womack holed up with someone, let me know -- I do know that all the census data is not on line as claimed - a lot of mine for 1850/60/70 in TN are totally missing --


Thursday, October 10, 2002 at 14:15:56 (PDT)
Pinkney (Pink) Womac

Need to locate any info possible on Pink Womack. He was my grandfather and came to Louisiana in the 1940's to work for a doctor. He was the plantation overseer and manager for a Doctor Bates. I have not been able to find anything about him on the genealogy info on the internet. If anyone out there knows or knows anyone who does know anything about him please contact me and will be most grateful. I don't even know who his parents were, though I remember him quite well as I lived close to them when I was a child. I was about 10 years old when he died in Gilbert, Louisiana where he lived and worked. So I covet any help anyone can give me. Vivian Stinson Carraway Please respond


Friday, October 11, 2002 at 05:29:12 (PDT)
Elbert Moon

My gggrandmother was Desmonia or Testimony Womack, daughter of Jacob Womack and Mary Wills . Printed sometimes as Mary Wills Cole.
Desmonia or Testimony married Richard Moore born ABT 1790 in Va.
Their son ,George Moore was born abt 1838 in Tennessee and was suppose to have married a Mary Jane Womack. I am wodering who her parents were.
I have just found out about the Womack connection and I am intrigged by it.
Elbert Moon elbertm@crosstel.net
P O Box 397
Quinton, OK 74561


Saturday, October 12, 2002 at 02:39:44 (PDT)

You know, it is nice to have the census images on line - but they should all be there not half-mast (I was nice here!)..I ran a exact/soundex name search on Womack for 1850 McMinn/Rhea/Meigs co in TN - I only came up with 4, none exact in Meigs - I then ran the same searches on TN for 1850 and came up zilch.
I know my GGG-GM was on the 1850 as head of household, I have seen the microfilm on it -- as well as other years that show nothing - Meigs Co, 1850, is so mixed up it is almost impossible to do a district by district search - they are not in any semblance of order -- so take those things, we unfortunately paid for the privilege of incomplete data, with a couple spoonsful of salt!!


Saturday, October 12, 2002 at 10:04:59 (PDT)
Ann McDonald

Vivian, well, there were several Pinkney Womacks - I'm just not sure which you have there. Most of them tend to use Pinkney as a middle name and then use Pink as what they are called. My best suggestion, is that since you know where and when he died is to get his death certificate. But my guess is that he's probably from one of the TN lines, in that most of the families that use the name Pinkney are from there. Specifically, I'm guessing that you want to look in Meigs Co or Cannon Co TN.


Saturday, October 12, 2002 at 22:58:51 (PDT)
Beth Howser

On 22 April 2002, David Dunn wrote: "Hening's "Statutes at Large" Vol. 7 lists the Lunenberg County Colonial Militia in 1758. Included are Jacob Womack as both Ensign and Sergeant (are these the same man or were there two there at that time?) and Abraham Womack as Private. Am I correct in assuming these are sons of Richard III?"

I believe there were two Jacob Womacks at that time. Maj. Jacob Womack (son of Richard III), who was one of the elected commissioners of The Watauga Association and another Jacob Womack, who signed the Watauga Petition.

The second Jacob Womack might possibly have been the husband of Sarah Johnson of Lunenburg Co., VA. She was the daughter of Joseph Johnson, born in Goochland Co., VA., the son of Michael Johnson of the Tuckahoe Creek area. Jacob and Sarah Johnson Womack are the proposed parents of Johnson Womack, who migrated to Arkansas and died in Madison Co. From the research of Karen Steely: "From Madison Co. Musings, Volume IX, Fall 1989, No. 3, pages 114-120. States that Jacob Womack is Johnson Ashley's (Womack) father and that Sarah Johnson is his mother; states that Jacob is listed on the Washington, Tennessee Tax Lists in 1778, that he is listed in Burke, North Carolina and that he is listed in the 1790 census for Pendleton, South Carolina."

Jacob and Sarah were probably in Lunenburg Co. in 1761 as Joseph Johnson's will was recorded 3 Mar 1761 and his death followed closely as Joseph Johnson's widow married Charles Sullivant 8 May 1761. Johnson Womack stated on his RW pension application that he was born in Goochland Co. in 1762. And as Roger stated recently, Larkin Womack, b. 1785 (my 3rd great grandfather) might be the son of Johnson Womack.

I haven't found much written about Maj. Jacob Womack after the Watauga Petition of 1776, but I also wonder if he participated as one of the "Overmountain Men" in the Battle of Kings Mountain. If you read the names of the men who signed the petition, you will find John Sevier, who later became the first governor of TN. The Overmountain Men mustered in late September 1780 at Fort Watauga for their march to Kings Mountain, SC. Col. John Sevier commanded 240 men from Washington, NC (later a part of TN). In 1999, Sam mentioned the possibility of a Jacob Womack listed as a participant in this battle. Is there a possibility that it could be either Jacob Womack? Does anyone have a copy of the book, "Kings Mountain Men" that Sam referenced?


Sunday, October 13, 2002 at 19:05:06 (PDT)
John Thomas Womack,Jr.

I am interested to know if anyone knows about my great-grandfather Jim Womack. He lived in Chapel Hill N.C. and later moved to a farm in Cary,N.C. The farm was on High House Road in Cary. My Father says nobody talked about Jim's past. He did not talk about where he can from. He was probably raised by his Uncle, around Durham or Chapel Hill.


Tuesday, October 15, 2002 at 19:53:08 (PDT)
Vivian Carraway

Need info on Andrew J. Womack in the descendant line of Andrew J., Andrew A., Richard Mansel, David, Richard, Richard, Richard, Richard & William, as far as I have been able to detect. Please Respond. Appreciate your help. Vivian Carraway


Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 12:24:05 (PDT)

WE all pretty much have the info that Jacob Womack had a fort near Watauga or that vicinity -- but two Womack's with forts in that area?? Somethin' amiss somewheah!!
CARTER CO TN - Extract from Goodspeed's
"Carter Womack is also said to have had a fort near the head of Watauga.
Another fort is said to have been near the site of Carter's depot."
He wasnt on the list of signers - so who is he??? Same time period-1770's.


Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 18:59:05 (PDT)
David Dunn

Sam, thanks. Yes I had seen that one; I was confused and thought you were referring to that other Henry, the fictional one from Accomack. Actually we know a lot about the Rev. Henry, including that he had 4 sons (Salathiel, John, Henry and William - Venn's History of Caius College, quoting his will). They are of the right age to be the father of The Immigrant. That's why we want to see the will. And son Henry was a "merchant tailor" (dry goods dealer) not a tailor. David.


Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 19:08:48 (PDT)

Thanks, now what we gotta do to get them brits to let loose of the dang will?


Thursday, October 17, 2002 at 12:37:47 (PDT)
David Dunn

Well, I had a trip to Norfolk planned for this Sept/Oct but had to cancel at the last minute because my blood pressure went berserk. Maybe I'll call and ask if the Record Office can recommend someone who can read the old script and make me a readable copy for a fee.


Friday, October 18, 2002 at 23:17:20 (PDT)
Beth Howser

This is possibly one of the two Jacob Womacks on the Watuaga Petition:
WOMACK JACOB 1798 7 8 Grantsborough commissioner

27. William Hancock, Sr, a gift to JACOB WOMACH (#27 is the lot number in the town of Grantsborough, Campbell Co., TN)

Grantsborough, a small community located at the fork of the Clinch and Powell Rivers, was one of the first towns incorporated by the State of Tennessee. In December 1789, the Tennessee State Legislature granted a charter to James Grant, JACOB WOMACK, and John Owen to locate a town. After several visits to the region, James Grant selected a 100 acres of land located on the north bank for the location of the new community. Since he had been to Philadelphia and liked the way it laid out, Grant used this city as a model for the new community which would bear his name.

In 1777, the General Assembly of North Carolina created a commission that was composed of ***Charles and John McDowell, Ezekiel Smith, JACOB WOMACK and Samuel Bright. They were "to lay off and mark a road, the nearest and best way from the house of Charles Robinson (where court was held in Washington County; now Johnson City, TN) to the Edward Smith home (where court is held in Burke County; near Hickory)". Burke stretched to the Mississippi then and our Tennessee neighbors were in the WATAUGA SETTLEMENT. (***This is Col. Charles McDowell, who was a RW leader. Johnson Womack volunteered in a militia company of "Horsemen" commaned by Capt. Jonathan Kemp (Maj. Jacob Womack's brother-in-law). They marched to Caney Creek near the county line of Rutherford Co., NC. Here they were joined to other groups and altogether about 300 men placed under Col. Charles McDowel.)

This is the one that throws me.....

1781 - Burke County - JACOB WOMACK - paid 261 Spanish milled dollars (to bear interest at 6%) - for 378 lbs. of fresh pork.

1782 - Salisbury - ENSIGN JACOB WOMACK - 15 Pounds - 4 Shillings - "for services done by him & company of foot Mil[itia of?] Burke Regmt."

1784 - Morgan District - JOHNSON WOMACK - 3 Pounds - for militia service

(In 1782 Burke Co. was taken from Salisbury and made a part of Morgan District. When Morgan District was divided in 1784, Burke Co. remained in Morgan District)


Saturday, October 19, 2002 at 07:11:11 (PDT)

The Jacob you have listed below is the Jacob that was one of the 13 commissioners on the Watauga Petition and commonly known as Majro Jacob, altho not sure I have ever seen him called as such - did see him referred to as MaYor; and unless that is misread and written, isnt Major...

Since no one has offered any hint of who the second was..let me throw one out
here - the second is Jacob Jr?? With Ole Jake being born sometime around 1730;
Martha his daughter born ca 1758; he certainly could have had a son old enough to sigh the petition in 1776..
Now, where are you getting that Kemp was Major Jakes Bro in law?? the last name of his wife has been nil for years!! if this is so, you have made a major break thru in this area for shure! So that would place her as either Martha or Sarah Kemp? Remember, even those who went into the DAR had the Major's wife's name wrong...
jest a lil food fer thot...


Saturday, October 19, 2002 at 15:08:18 (PDT)

OK little help people!!
It appears this Jacob Womack, which I will list by the arious spellings on censuses may be the same one - but just whose Jacob is he?

1790 Pendleton SC
Jacob Womack -
5 males 16 andover - 2 males under 16, 5 females

1800 and 1810 cannot locate--

1820 Wilkerson Co GA
Jacob Wommack
3 males to 10 - 1 to 45; females 1 to 10 - 1 to 45

1830 Muscogee C0 GA
Jacob Womack
1 male 10-15; 1 15-20; 2 20-30; 1 40-50
1 female 10-15; 1 40-50

1840 Muscogee Co GA
Jacob Wamack
3 males 20-30; 1 50-60 - 1 female 15-20; 1 50-60

1850 Muscogee Co GA
Jacob Wammock age 68 born NC
Sophia age 67 NC
John 43 NC
Cerena 36 GA
Riley Or Wiley hard to read 33 GA
Eugenia 11 GA
male 5 years old GA cannot read name
Any clues peeples??


Saturday, October 19, 2002 at 16:02:34 (PDT)
Jack Womack

There were two Issac Wilsons signing the Watauga Petition, and if you check that out and their dates of birth it is easy to see the possibility of father and son both signing. Seens like the use of Senior and Junior was not the norm, alltho looking at some of the old tax rolls 1750 through 1900 the Sr. Jr. thang was used but not on the census.


Saturday, October 19, 2002 at 19:04:11 (PDT)
Beth Howser


Major Jacob Womack and Martha Sally "Patsy" Womack were the children of Nancy Ann Childers/Childress and Richard Womack, III. Martha was the 1st wife of Captain Jonathan Kemp. I cite the following sources:

"Kemp Family" "...Captain Jonathan Kemp, 1742 - 1814...The following was taken from: "THREE GENERATIONS OF CAPTAIN JONATHAN KEMP FAMILY". The official records of Captain Jonathan Kemp, compiled by his great great grandson, Dempsey "Demmy" Kemp of Greensburg, Louisiana, with data of his children and grandchildren...."

"Womack Register" web page of WGN researcher Joyce Wommack http://members.fortunecity.com/jdw4/Womack1/rr01_042.html#P1782

"Womack Genepool" http://www.womacknet.net/genepool/womack16.htm
Sally Patsy Womack 1748 Henrico, Co, VA 20 January 1791 Biurke Co, , GA, 1773 St Georges Parish, , GA Jonathan Capt Kemp Richard Womack Ann Nancy Childers

If this is true, Captain Jonathan Kemp was the brother-in-law of Major Jacob Womack.

Now, take a look at this: "170. Major Jacob WOMACK. Born ca 1738 in Lunenburg Co., VA. MAJOR JACOB DIED IN KENTUCKY CA 1836; he was 98" This is also from "Womack Register" (Joyce Wommack) http://members.fortunecity.com/jdw4/Womack1/rr01_042.html

We'll have to ask Joyce her source on Major Jacob's Kentucky death site!


Saturday, October 19, 2002 at 20:02:47 (PDT)
Roger Womack

The only Jacob that I have born about the right time in NC is Jacob who married Delphy Jones Feb 3, 1807 in Wake Co., NC. and I believe he was the son of Albridgton Womack, Jr. (yet to be proved) I know Albridgton Womack, III was in Walton and Monroe Co. Also, Eugenia T. Womack, married Thomas C. Parham, Dec 3, 1861 in Muscogee Co., Georgia. And there was a bunch of Wiley's in the Albridgton descendants and many of them ended up in Georgia.


Saturday, October 19, 2002 at 20:10:22 (PDT)

Then the Eugenia on that 1850 census must be the same Eugenia prob a Granddau of the Jacob shown - wifes name Sophia as shown - ahh well, just something I hit on for some reason --
Also believe Jacob had a son hamed George who showed with him on the 1840 as between 20 and 30, wife between 15 and 20 and one son under 5 and one 5-10.

Saturday, October 19, 2002 at 20:45:38 (PDT)
Beth Howser

While I'm being "long winded", I might as well bring up this subject:

Many researchers have inquired about the father of Fanny Womack, who married Elijah David Weaver. My cuzzin, Dale Daley, wrote queries on WGN and other web pages about this. In following this line of thought, I've come up with the following: (I have to cite names, places and time to correlate family associations)

George Hutson was a signee of the Watauga Petition. This was probably George William Hutson, b. 1735, who m. Lucretia Weaver, sister of Sam Weaver, Sr. (and I use the designation "Sr." loosely because there were so many Sam Weavers in this family) There were two Sam Weavers on the "Pay Roll for Captain Womack's (Maj. Jake) Company of Militia stationed at Womack's Fort in Fincastle County". At the bottom of the doc it says, "Washington County...Captain Jacob Womack makes oath that the within is just pay roll of men called to duty under his command. Signed Thomas Madison, 4 Feb 1777". (The Watauga Petition was signed 5 July 1776)

(Now I'm thinking in terms of the "other Jacob Womack" at Watauga, who I propose was the father of Johnson Womack and my Larkin being the son of Johnson Womack). Samuel Weaver, Jr.'s son, Elijah David Weaver, m. Fanny Womack, b. abt. 1780. Fanny Womack and Elijah David Weaver named one of their sons LARKIN WEAVER. As Dale Daley did, I wonder if Fanny Womack Weaver were the sister of my Larkin Womack, b. 1785.

Further proof of my Larkin Womack's relationship with the Weaver family:
Matilda Weaver, dau. of Elijah David Weaver and Fanny Womack, m. James Quincy Carrico, son of Vincent Carrico and Frances Estes. Vincent Carrico m. 2nd. Susannah Quick. My Larkin Womack's wife, Frances Bayse m. 1st Jonas Quick, brother of Susannah Quick. Frances Basye Quick Womack's aunt, Frances Piggott, m. David Quick, another sibling of Susannah and Jonas Quick.

If all of this were true, then Fanny Womack, who m. Elijah David Weaver, was not of Native American descent (many researchers have indicated her to be Cherokee). And the Weavers (Wever) were Hugenots and were among the first settlers of Manakin Town, Goochland Co., VA.

Another thought.....a couple of researchers have three children for Maj. Jake...Martha, b. 1758 (m. Robert Bean), Sarah, b. 1760 and WILLIAM. In Sam's "Arkansas Sheriff's Census, 1824-1829", there was a William Womack in Crawford Co. 1829, who I cannot identify. My Larkin, Johnson and a couple of Johnson's sons were enumerated there also. Johnson didn't have a son, William, according to Karen Steely. It was too early for Larkin's William (b. 1835) to have been enumerated. Of course, Johnson, b. 1762, could have a bro., William.
Does anyone have any thoughts who this William could be?


Sunday, October 20, 2002 at 08:06:13 (PDT)

A little Egg on face here - I didnt think that way when I leaped in there - of course he could have had a brother in law because of a sister!

However, I found a Womack after me own heart: Guy (could be Gary) V Womack,
Age 22, Barkeeper in Saloon in Willcox AZ 1910, born TX, fth born AL, mth born AR!!

BTW y'all, those census thangs on Ancestry are not all a bargain - nice to have yes, but accurate no way!! I had one lising of Womacks in Ar that showed the view image thing - the click in didnt take me to the image where any were suspposed to be - and I looked at every image in that series and only found one and not sure if he was one of those in the index-- he was image 1 when the clicker took you to 25!! This is the 1830 -- AR
The AR 1830 will show none unless you use specific counties - the general search will not work

also I again ran a general search on the 1830 TN and found only one Womack of any spelling, the 1840 none, and the 1850 none - I ran separate on three specific counties and again none -- except for the one mentioned -

So again tho nice to have you'd do better saving your money for a visit to your local FHC!!

Sunday, October 20, 2002 at 19:46:34 (PDT)
Charlotte Jones Harrington

I am trying to locate a Nancy Womack, Wommack, Wormick(sp.?) that is mentioned in an estate file for Mark Jones who died Stanly County, NC 1858. It states her name or heirs. I am "assuming" that this Nancy is a sister or neice to Mark Jones. He had a huge estate and it listed several family members in it. Mark Jones was brother to William and Allen Jones of Montgomery/Stanly County, NC and their father was Charles Jones. Charles Jones had land holdings there in Montgomery/ Stanly County as well as Chatham/Moore/Cumberland County on the Cape Fear river at BUCKHORN CREEK. This creek was at the tip of where these counties meet. Deed records show that a John Wommock or Wommack 50 sh. for every 100a. -on the south side of Cape Fear joins the county line. Date isAugust 1779.

Chatham County NC deed book c page 132 recorded the 12th day of Feb. 1783, James Allen of the county of Wilkes and state of Georgia sells for forty pounds to John Wommock of Chatham County, NC for acres of Land on the south side of Cape Fear River. wit. Herison Pharow and Raimon Ennis.
May 1779 James Booker and Pheby his wife of Albridgton Womack -500 pds - 300ac. in the county of Chatham and Wake joins Robert Jones on the waters of Little Creek wit. John Wommack, Valentine V. Braswell, James and Pheby Booker.
Does anyone have any info on the Womack history that shows a member marrying a Jones? I have searched for Nancy Wommack and cannot find this lady. I was hoping to reach some of her heirs so I can get some details on this lady. Since the estate mentioned that it was Nancy Wommack or heirs it may be that she was dead by 1858.
Any help would be appreciated very much! I have searched the local libraries as well as the net and not had any luck finding her.
Thank you very much!!!!


Monday, October 21, 2002 at 13:13:21 (PDT)
Nancy Womack Mitchell

Looking for reasearchers in the Arkansas area. My dad is William Randall Womack: DOB 9-12-33. He has a brother Willard Womack, and a sister, Vestal Womack Hipp. I think Dad was born in Sylvania near the Ward and Cabot area. His dad is Rev. William Marion Womack: DOB January 1912. Born & grew up in the Ward/Cabot area. He married the late Altha Clara Lenderman of Sylvania on October 11, 1932. (I know that papaw has a brother named Pete, who lives in Searcy, and had a sister named Nan). Both dad & papaw currently live in Heber Springs, AR.
My grandfather's father was Kit Carson Womack who was married to Nancy Elizabeth Womcak. I believe Kit's father was Joseph Womack.
Just beginning to research the family ties. Would love any info to help me get started on the Womack family tree.

Monday, October 21, 2002 at 15:29:00 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Nancy, Kit Carson Womack,sp Nancy Elizabeth Gammil was the son of John Thomas Womack, sp Nancy Elizabeth Harrison, John Thomas was the son of William V. Womack.
Will Extracts, White Co AR
William V. Warmack, Book A, page 192 may 11, 1867
Named Sons: Stephen C Executor)William C., John T., daughters: Mary Brandon
Elizabeth H. Osborn, Martha T. Wormack, Nancy V. Warmack,
I have not found where William V. belongs yet, maybe someone else knows something on this bunch?


Monday, October 21, 2002 at 15:30:35 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Charlotte, just who this Nancy is I don稚 know. But I would bet the family in question is William Womack, sp Martha. There is a bunch of Nancy痴 in this line. Albridgton Womack, born abt., 1730 sp unknown Has a daughter named Nancy, I have no information on her. Albridgton痴, brother John has a daughter named Nancy but she married a Battle, I don稚 have any other information on her. John also has a son named Rorie Womack who married Elizabeth Booker, who is the daughter of James Booker and Phebe who you mentioned. Now Rorie also has a daughter named Nancy who marries Abel Douglas. John also has a son John Jr. who has a daughter named Nancy who marries a Burt. Jones is such a common name I have about 50 of them marrying Womack痴 but none seem to fit the time and place.


Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 02:09:42 (PDT)

Go here and you will find some info on your Womacks -- http://dubbie.tripod.com/samsville/womack02.html


Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 14:47:26 (PDT)
Rita Ellis

Bell Womack born abt 1859 in Kentucky was listed on the 1870 Logan County, Kentucky, census living with William and Mary Grogan. In 1880, Bell was living with her cousin, Virgil Adkins. Virgil's wife was Elizabeth Womack. Was Bell youngest daughter of Chapman and Nancy Moore Womack. They had a daughter, V. B. who was born in 1859. Virgil Adkins mother was a sister to Nancy Moore Womack. William and Mary Grogan were parents of wife of Joseph Alexander Womack, perhaps eldest son of Chapman and Nancy Womack. Any info on any of these people would be appreicated. Have into to share.


Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 15:31:45 (PDT)
Beth Howser


I did find a little bit more to help you. This is from Sam's web page:

Elizabeth Womack m. Allen Jones 24 Dec 1829, brother of Mark Jones


GRIFFIN, Cannon WOMACK, Winafred 11 Jun 1817
GRIFFIN, Kinchen WOMACK, Ferebe 25 Apr 1817
JONES, Allen ****** WOMACK, Elizabeth ***** 24 Dec 1829 *****
LYNCH, Arnold WOMACK, Eliza Ann 25 Mar 1865
WAMMACK, Jacob JONES, Delphy 03 Feb 1807
WICKER, Kane WOMACK, Caroline 16 Nov 1866
WOMACK, Benjamin F UTLEY, Elizabeth R 30 Sep 1837
WOMACK, Britain WILLIFORD, Lucy 21 Aug 1816
WOMACK, Meridy LEVINS, Tisha 22 Dec 1802
WOMACK, Willie HINESLY, Winafred 21 Aug 1816

I don't have a clue who this Elizabeth Womack is. And I cannot find anything on Nancy Womack relating to these families.

My first thought on this situation is: James Allen was found in a land transaction there in 1783. He was probably the father-in-law of Charles Jones if Allen Jones is the son of Charles Jones. Susannah Allen, common-law wife of John Womack, was also probably related to this Allen family...either James Allen's daughter, sister or maybe widow. I would imagine James Allen was a comtempory of John Wommack's. I think the clue to Nancy Womack is: who was Elizabeth Womack.


Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 22:48:45 (PDT)
Jerry Cody-Griffin

I recently came across a web site with this information:
William Womack had a son Arthur Womack, born in England and died 1607 in Lopham, England. Arthur married Alice Rouse. Arthur and Alice had a son, Lawrence Womack. Lawrence was born 1550 in England. He died 1642 in Kent, Exeter, Devon, England. Lawrence was the father of William Charles Augustus Womack born about 1575 in Kent, England. William C.A.Womack was the father of (1) William B Womack Sr, born 1607, died 1 Aug 1697, (2) Lawrence Womack Bishop of St David's, born 12 May 1612, died 12 May 1685, (3) Jane Womack, born about 1615. (#1) William B Womack Sr was born 1606 in Wragby, Lincolnshire, England. He died 1 Aug 1697 in Henrico, Virginia and was buried in Henrico, Virginia. William married Mary Jane Allen about 1637 in Henrico, Virginia.

I do not know how accurate this information is. If it is correct, I wonder if any Womack researcher has ever traced the family of Alice Rouse who was married to Arthur Womack?

I am a descendant of James Cody and Sarah Womack down my Father's Cody line. My Mother's parents were Stephen Powell and Amma Rouse. I know very little about my Grandmother Rouse's family, but I remember her telling me that her family initially came from England.

I know it is a long shot, but since the Powell & Rouse BRICK WALL is so high, I thought it was worth a try.

This is a great site, please keep up the good work!!!

Thursday, October 24, 2002 at 04:44:44 (PDT)

Dont know whose site you got that info from; but William CA was not the father of Lawrence Womack, Bishop, et al -- this appears to be another of those "tainted" genealogies running rampant thru the hallowed halls of history!

If you go to Rogers page and look at Womacks of Mautby or to mine at
www.womackonline.co.uk - I think you will find the difference --


Friday, October 25, 2002 at 13:07:18 (PDT)
Emmett Womack Hines Jr

I am the great grandson of Emmett Womack who served in the army of the Confederate States of America and who later was a director of the Pension Fund in Washington (purpose being to give pensions to Veterans of the Union side but not to Emmett's Confederate comrads at arms. Nelle Womack Hines was his daughter.

Anyone wanting more information, please email me at ehines2@erols.com. Anyone with advice on how I might learn more about Emmett Womack or my family, please let me know.


Friday, October 25, 2002 at 15:41:01 (PDT)
Ann McDonald

Hi All. Just a note to pass along. The LDS right now has posted on their site www.familysearch.org , a free index to the 1880 US census, and the 1881 Canadian census, and the 1881 UK census. Normally I don't visit the LDS sites much, given that I happen to know that 90% of what is in the IGI about my Womack family is wrong, but the 1880 census index is an all name index, and it managed to pop up a family I'd been looking for in MA for quite a while that had managed to hide away due to bad name indexing and the huge number of reels I'd have to read individually to find the guy. Combined with ancestry.com's 1880 census on-line I managed to spot the guy finally. So, now I have a MUCH better picture of that family. And no, these weren't Womacks - sadly enough. Ann


Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 09:04:17 (PDT)
Tawsha Hubbard


My father's mother is a Womack. I don't really know much about her or her family but I would really like to trace my Womack roots. I have done a lot of research on my mother's family and now I am ready to trace my father's.

This is what I know:

1 Wiley Womack

Spouse: Oler ?

Children: Eutive ?(my grandmother)

1.1 Eutive ? Womack
Reli: Church of Christ
Idabel Oklahoma McCurtain County

Spouse: Olen ? Huckabee
Birth: 13 Jan 1912
Death: Jun 1977
Father: Wesley Huckabee (~1877-~1945)
Mother: Mollie Leatherwood

Children: Womack Wayne (1948-)(my father)
Gloria Ann Huckabee (1939-)
Nancy ? Huckabee

Does anyone know anything about Wiley Womack etc.

Thank you



Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 22:06:32 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Tawsha, I have one Eutive in my database, she is the daughter of William Wiley Womack, sp Ola Dossey, William Wiley Womack's brother John Emery Womack married Blanche Dossey. Ola and Blanche may have been sisters, but I don't know that for sure. Their parents were Elisha L. Womack sp Nancy Chandler, son of William Wiley Green Womack sp Mary Jane Morris, son of William Womack 2nd sp Francis.
William married first Margaret Ellis, Feb 4, 1790 Lunenburg Co., Virginia. and it was witnessed by Jacob Womack, son of Alexander. Since Jacob had bought land from Alexander and lived near by, it was a pretty good guess he was his brother. and the son of Alexander sp Amelia Buckner aka:Mealy/Meely/Milly.

Tax lists for the year of 1787, Alexander Womack sp Milly Buckner, of Lunenburg Co., VA., was charged with the payment of William Womacks Tax for 1787, a strong indication that William was his son. William was listed next to Alexander as (16 to 21 Yrs.) No other sons were listed as they were to young.


Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 23:09:57 (PDT)

Roger are you saying that Alexander and Milly (Amelia)'s other sons were younger than the William you mentioned? My Jacob, his brother, was born between 1760 and 1770 and he was younger than a 16-21 year old? Also, I beleive there was one older than Jacob, and that was Edmund b.ca. 1764 -- For Jacob, 1830 and 1840 Rhea Co Tn says 60-70 and 70-80 respectively indicating 1760-70.


Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 23:53:06 (PDT)
mary a mitchell
looking for lost family members

annie mae potter,and jessie potter born in missippi,matson,drew,mother mattie, bsrother james,sister, maryalice,jessie lee, uncle edward and emma mitchell last seen 65years ago in mississippi or new orleans looking for siblins of the potter family jonnie ,jt ,jerry miles.


Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 00:03:54 (PDT)
mary mitchell

dorthy chapman from memphis .tenn lived on forth street,went to larose school been gone for,50 or55 years to omahaw nebras please get in contact with the heavenly bound singer,mary, dorthy bloth.eula mae fragier mrs emma mitchell


Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 07:44:49 (PST)
Roger Womack

Sam, the note (No other sons were listed as they were to young) came from the original source, I didn't think much of it until you said something. I do have William as the oldest in my database, but it's just a guess based on the census and tax info.


Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 08:10:44 (PST)

I have William as third b. ca. 1768, which would put him at 21 in 1787.
I have Jacob at 1765 splitting hairs based on the census data - Edmund at 1764 is from Ray I think..
Hey, but thats Ok, thats what this stuff is all about, eh?


Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 07:34:25 (PST)
Charlotte Aleta Womack Hill

Charlotte Womack Gay changed to Charlotte Womack Hill 4/10/02 and email changed from busybb1@aol.com to charlottehill@comcast.net



Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 16:35:06 (PST)
Vivian Carraway

Roger Womack - I first want to thank you for the very much needed info you sent me a few days ago. I need you to help me with determining which William Womack is in our Abram Pinkney Womack line. I can't seem to figure out the right one that descends down to my granddad's dad Andrew J. Also do you know what the J. stands for in his name? I found an Andrew Jr. Womack and am wondering if Jr. is what the J. stands for in his name. I will appreciate it much if you can help me with the William. Who he married if possible and when he was born. That would help me bunches. If I have another question from time to time will it be ok if I bother you with it. Like I said you will never know how much this much info has helped me. Will be waiting to hear from you. Thankd again...................Vivian Carraway


Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 17:55:07 (PST)
Ed Bowen

I am trying to find any information on my grandfathers family. I have very little information and only found out after my mothers death that the grandfather that raised me was my mothers step-father. All I have is my mothers birth certificate showing the name as J.H. Womack. He lived in Durant, OK in 1919 when my mother was born. He was 26 at the time (1-20-1919), which would give him a DOB of around 1892.. He was born in Michigan and married to Pernia Conditt. I elive that he died shortly after the birth of my mother. I have checked the 1920 Cenus for Durant, OK by did not find any Womack listed. I am still searching the census records for the surrounding ares but have not had any luck. Any help and or hints would be appreciated. Thank You........ Ed Bowen


Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 18:21:00 (PST)
Ann McDonald

Ed, I think your guy probably died between 1919 and 1920 - I am guessing your grandmother is the Perney Womack listed with the Conditt family - she is listed as age 21, widowed, with a girl Dorthea (?) - that's Bryan Co., OK 1920, Albany township, page 1b


Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 18:36:23 (PST)
Ann McDonald

Ed, sorry to do this in two postings, but my knowledge of OK records is limited, so I had to look it up. You should be able to get the death certificate from the state vital records office. This is in theory - apparently the state started in 1916, but if Arkansas is any model, 1919 -1920 they may or may not have it on file. http://www.health.state.ok.us/program/vital/brec.html has the details. Or there may be an obituary or funeral home notice.


Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 18:41:24 (PST)
Geneie Everett

RE: Nancy Kansas Womack.
I found a record for on ancestry.com (Womacknet.net/genepool) showing Nancy Kansas Womack married to Richard Westover. I have a Richard Westover born in Missouri 1840; Union soldier enlisted in Kansas, 6th Calvary 8/1861; discharge Camp Moonlight, Ark. The location of Camp Moonlight", was at the spring, on a county road in Springtown in NW Arkansas north of Arkansas Highway 12. He may have had a Civil War pension.

Any infomration on marriage to Richard Westover? Any chance the spouse (James Copeland) was her second husband and that Richard was her first?

Many thanks,

Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 21:15:29 (PST)
Remona Turner

Looking for someone that would know something about Mary Alice Brownlow and her family, wife of Daniel Webster Womack. Mary Alice is the sister to my grandmother, Margaret Belle Brownlow. Thank you very much.


Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 22:03:31 (PST)
Roger Womack

I don稚 know who J.H. Womack and Pernia Conditt are, but these Conditt痴 ended up in Oklahoma and William Afton Conditt, died in Durant, OK

1. Frances Delona3 Womack (William Harrison2, Joel W.1) was born April 23, 1870 in Tallapoosa Co., Alabama, and died 1906 in Cleburne Co., Arkansas. She married James Bennett Conditt August 07, 1887 in Independence Co., Arkansas. He was born Abt. 1867.

Notes for Frances Delona Womack:
Frances Delona Womack married James Bennett Conditt about 1887. She was listed on the 1900 Census for Cleburne County, Arkansas, Grassy Township. The five older children were also listed. There may have been other children born after 1900. Frances died in 1906, perhaps from complications of child birth, He son, Euel Ivan also died in 1906 while still and infant. She was buried at Mt. Zion Cemetery. James Conditt moved the family to Oklahoma after Frances died and little is known about her descendants. William Afton Conditt returned for a visit shortly after World War II but no further contact with the family after that.

Children of Frances Womack and James Conditt are:
2 i. Nellie M.4 Conditt, born June 1888 in Cleburne Co., Arkansas.
3 ii. William Afton Conditt, born November 1890 in Pulaski Co., Arkansas; died 1973 in Durant, Oklahoma.
4 iii. John E. Conditt, born October 1892 in Cleburne Co., Arkansas.
5 iv. James E. Conditt, born February 1894 in Cleburne Co., Arkansas.
6 v. Ruth E. Conditt, born November 1896 in Cleburne Co., Arkansas.
7 vi. Euel Ivan Conditt, born January 19, 1906 in Cleburne Co., Arkansas; died 1906 in Cleburne Co., Arkansas.

Abram Pinkney9 Womack , was the son of (Andrew J.8, son of Andrew A.7, son of Richard Mansel6, son of David5, son of Richard4, son of Richard3,son of Richard2, son of William1??? This is what I have)He was born Abt. 1872 in Cains, Franklin Co., Mississippi, and died July 02, 1942 in Gilbert, Louisiana. He married (1) Lizzie Fairchilds January 29, 1893 in Copiah Co., Mississippi. She was born Abt. 1875. He married (2) Hattie Ophelia Smith Abt. 1906, daughter of James Smith and Mary Carter. She was born Abt. 1879 in Lawrence Co., Mississippi

aka: Pink Womack
aka: Pink Abram Womack
aka: Pinkney Abraham Womack
aka: Abram Pinkney Womack

1880 Census, Place: District 146, Cains, Franklin, Mississippi
Source: FHL Film 1254647 National Archives Film T9-0647 Page 82B
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
A. J. WOMACK Self M M W 40 MS
Occ: Farmer Fa: GA Mo: LA
J. WOMACK Wife F M W 43 LA
Occ: Keeping House Fa: GA Mo: LA
Franklin J. WOMACK Son M S W 15 MS
Occ: At Home Fa: MS Mo: MS
L. M. WOMACK Son M S W 13 MS
Occ: At Home Fa: MS Mo: MS
T. A. WOMACK Son M S W 11 MS
Occ: At Home Fa: MS Mo: MS
Occ: At Home Fa: MS Mo: MS
Fa: MS Mo: MS
Uriah WOMACK Son M S W 5 MS
Fa: MS Mo: MS

This is in the information I sent you. I don稚 know what J. stands for, maybe someone else does.

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