July 2002 Message Archive

Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 18:49:42 (PDT)

I need some help from someone more familiar with the Womacks than I am. I've been researching the Mann's and discovered a grandmother named Susannah Womack born around 1814 in NC. In 1850 she lived in Wake Co.(Apex) NC. Does anyone have any information on her or know who she is?
She was married to Daniel Mann and her children were: Mary or Elizabeth, Silas, Caswell, William, Aaron, Adelaide, and Adolphus.
Any help would be appreciated.

Thursday, July 04, 2002 at 20:22:11 (PDT)
Kaye Fink

Need information on Jacob Womack, b. abt. 1740, father of Martha Womack Bean, wife of Capt. Robert Bean. Thanks, Kaye

Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 01:24:21 (PDT)

I think here is a good example of haste in posting to rootsweb or other collection sites:

Womack, William Jacob
Spouse: Elizabeth Gilpen Woods
Lula WOMACK b: 17 Feb 1877
William Breed WOMACK

Womack, William Jacob 11 Apr 1851 St. Helena Parish, Louisiana
died:3 Oct 1932 Kentwood, Tangiophoa Parish, Louisiana
Father: Abraham Burton Womack Mother: Elizabeth Gilpin Wood
Spouse: Frances Cook "Fannie" Quillon
William Breed "Rube" WOMACK b: ABT. 1871
Carrie Beth WOMACK b: 1872
Edgar WOMACK b: 1873
Nancy Tallulah "Lula" WOMACK b: 17 FEB 1877
Thomas F. WOMACK b: 21 OCT 1879
Mary Billie WOMACK b: ABT. 1881

If you will note the top one has him married to his mother! There was another entry on the same page by a different person that had the same exact info.

And I am still trying to get people to correct the name of my 4th great grannie from Mary Wills Cole to Mary Wills; AND, the wife of Major Jacob Womack from
Mary Wills Cole, Mary Wills and Martha Mary Wills to just plain Martha ? as no one apparently knows her real last name -- Ahhh! the excitement and thrill of the hunt!!

Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 06:58:34 (PDT)
Roger Womack

May messages have been moved to the archives.

Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 14:26:18 (PDT)
Linda Hart

Can anyone give me or send me in the right direction to find info on Bird Womack? All I have is the name and that Thomas J., born in Paulding County, Ga. around 1808. I have all of Thomas J. and Esther's children. My line is Thomas J., William Riley, James Monroe, Andrew Paul, Ida M., and myself. Thanks for any help.

Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 22:53:27 (PDT)

Approximately a week ago, I sent a message to the DAR with a DAR number requesting documentation or how to obtain same on the entry into that, well organization, on Major Jacob Womack - as someone was allowed into that somewhat organization on the wife of my 4th great being the wife of his cousin the so called Major...NOW, anyone who went into the DAR with the wife of "Major" Jacob being Mary Wills Cole, or Mary Wills or Martha Mary Wills, etc is in there under false pretenses - those people havent even answered me as of yet!!
So, until I get a straight answer, and I never will get one concering their error in acceptance, that organization is no better than one of those sleazy things that offer fake family crests!! I can see why there have been warnings of fake genealogies around -

And, Roger and Mark and the rest of you, castigate me if you will. But you all holler documentation, documentation etc and so on -- I want to see this one - I dang well know my 4th great granny and she dang sure wasnt married to her husband's older cousin!!
No more Mary Wills Cole! She wasnt a Cole, never was!! But thank God she had a nice step dad named Cole or I might not have had her as a granny!! Any time I see a reference to Mary Wills Cole from now on, I will raise hades! Here and any where else necessary!

Friday, July 12, 2002 at 09:35:20 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Sam, no castigation from me. I know that Mary Wills/Mary Wills Cole thing immediately bunches your undies up. Over the years someone brings it up and you do some straightnen, nothing is wrong with that. To play the devils advocate a little, we know those family crest are all pretty much bogus and even if there was a real one we know only the descendants of that particular line are entitled to use it. I do think those involved with DAR are at least trying to record what they believe to be the truth even though often they are walking in all the light they have and their source information is in error or non-existant. It was just a couple years ago most of us was sure ole William and Mary Allen was our first ancestor, through WGN and other information that has come to light, we have no verified proof he existed. We know someone had a bunch of kids there in Henrico County because we have those records. Just keep on posting and searching hopefully someday we will be able to correct the bad information out there.

Monday, July 15, 2002 at 23:09:50 (PDT)
Tracie Womack Easterling

It impresses me and saddens me to see posts where people know of relatives from the 1800's. I can't even get a clear picture of my grandparents, my father REFUSES to speak of his father. If anyone has any info for any of the following it would be VERY much appreciated. As far as I know, I am the last "branch" on our tree. I am working on a family tree for my 10 year old daughter. I am constantly adding to my husband's side, yet my side of the tree looks like it was hit with Dutch Elms disease.

Herman Kemph Womack-Copiah County Mississippi
married-Jessie Mae Dixon


Herman Lynn Womack
Bernita Mae Womack Moore
Myron Kemph (Sonny) Womack


Tracie WoMack Easterling

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 22:37:13 (PDT)
Garald Vincent Womack Spelbring

Looking for information about my father Carral Vincent Womack, born in Los Angeles, CA, about 1913, son of Frank and Edith Womack.

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 05:51:02 (PDT)
Jack Womack

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Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 08:01:35 (PDT)
Claytie Reed Shipley

I am a descendent of Jasper Newton Womack(he was a twin). He had a son Tolbert Itus Womack who was my greatgrandfather. TI as he was sometimes called or Itus was married 3 times lst/Mattie Arnold had l child Daisy Mae born around l906, then he married an Armstrong and had l son Ellis Snow Womack, and 3rd he married Jennie George Harrell who already had a child Youdie Harrell. Daisy Womack was my grandmother she married Floyd Rigsby and they had 6 children a set of twins which died at birth, Edmond, Lucille, Katherine, and Christeen. I never knew my greatgrandfather, my grandparents died l960 and l974. Christeen passed away December 25, 1998. The others are all still living and live in Murfreesboro. Lucille is my Mother and my Dad was Joe Reed his family from Bradyville, Tennessee. I am married to Spencer Shipley and I had one son Anthony Brian who was killed in an accident July3, 2000 and I have l grandson Casey Ashton Shipley. I would like to be in touch with cousins this is so interesting.

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 11:02:41 (PDT)

Have you any dates?" Such as your father's date of birth? Date and place of marriage? Did he always live in MS? And could his middle name be KEMP vs KEMPH?
Please post as much info as you can and someone may be better able to identify some small clue - and I will keep eyes open as I dig thru the web!!

Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 10:36:55 (PDT)
Tracie W. Easterling


Thank you for your reply.

It is definitely Kemph. My dad, Myron Kemph Womack was born April 30, 1936 in Hazelhurst, Copiah County, Mississippi. My grandfather, Herman Kemph Womack, went by the name Kemph. He was apparently not a very good person. Until I was almost an adult, I thought my grandfather died when my dad was ten. I found out though that he was sent to Parchman, Mississippi's State Prison. He apparently was there more than once. And one time was for murder, being so ashamed of this, my dad will not discuss anything pertaining to my grandfather. My grandmother died in 1996 and she would not discuss him either. The most I know is Herman Kemph Womack's mother was known as Roxie. I have no idea of his father's name.


Tracie WoMack Easterling

Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 14:10:51 (PDT)
carrie gann

I' looking for a Gould Womack. He has a brother name Alford Burl Womack
they was from Ok.

Friday, July 19, 2002 at 12:35:18 (PDT)

Mebbe this help - and if you get a copy of the SS5 from SSA, perhaps will list his parents - this is from the ss death index
Birth Date: 27 Apr 1898
Death Date: Feb 1965
Social Security Number: 419-01-3188
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Alabama

Friday, July 19, 2002 at 13:54:52 (PDT)
Ann McDonald

Tracie, I'm going to try to email you a LARGE JPG file - it's a photo of an extract the 1920 census listing for the family of Sam and Rosa Womack - spelled Wamack there, in Copiah Co. Kemph would be age 18 - hopefully you can read the rest of the family. I didn't copy the birthplaces for the group all MS but Rosa's parents were from GA and someplace else, but with that 1920 info, you should be able to start tracking them back with marriage licenses and birth certificates and the census, if I'm right this is part of the larger Copiah Co group and someone should recognize them. If the JPG doesn't come through, yell. Ann

Saturday, July 20, 2002 at 12:23:55 (PDT)
Karin Wammack

As I was reviewing something in the Womack Genealogy, I came across something curious that I have not heard mentioned in the last 4 years here. Would someone address this statement? I suspect it has already been disproved, or not considered valid.

What I am referring to is an entry regarding Archer Womack listed in 1619 as a resident of Jamestown. This is presented in Womack Genealogy, Vol 1, No 2 Dec 1957, whole No 2, Exchange Dept, Page 31, Item 33.

Thank you.

Saturday, July 20, 2002 at 13:03:29 (PDT)
Tracie WoMack Easterling

Thanks for the responses!!! I am truly grateful for any and all help.


Saturday, July 20, 2002 at 21:23:24 (PDT)

You will also note the person who wrote that in made many references to "books" or other "documents" without giving the specific reference -- and it appears there wass no further discussion even tho asked for them. Further, If there had been a Womack at Jamestown, he or she would have been listed in those lists of the living and dead, if alive at that time and involved in the massacre - or survived it - kinda smells like a typo to me...

Sunday, July 21, 2002 at 09:01:27 (PDT)
Armando Womack

Hello, I am Armando Lewis Womack born in bridgeport CT back on Jan 27 1982.I was placed up for adoption and im really interested in trying to find out info about my real father and perhaps my familly history. I Know that my fathers Name was Patrice Womack , and My mother was a Carmen Burgose. Im a person who truelly knows nothing of my past. Im not looking for money or anything I just want to know who i Am. I currently live in CT. If Anyone has any info... anything at at i beg please contact me.

Sunday, July 21, 2002 at 16:48:35 (PDT)
Ann McDonald

Armando - I'm assuming that you have done state records thing, if not - here's the drill. Sorry everyone else for the long message, but I figured it would be a lesson in tracking down current records as opposed to 100 year old ones.

In CT, State law requires each agency to maintain an adoption registry. Adopted adults age 18 or older can receive identifying information on their birth parents if the birth parents have filed their consent with the registry. If consent is not on file, the birth parents will be contacted for consent. Birth parents and birth siblings can receive identifying information regarding the adopted adult if consent is on file. If consent is not on file, a search will be conducted for the adopted adult age 18 or older to obtain consent to release information to the birth parents.

Connecticut Department of Children and Families
Office of Foster and Adoption Services
505 Hudson Street
Hartford, CT 06106
(860) 550-6578
(860) 550-3453

Obtaining an Original Birth Certificate:
An adoptee must petition the court in which the adoption was finalized to receive.

All that courtesy of the National Adoption Information Clearinghouse. Now, since you have the parents names, you've probably gotten that far, but you never know, the contact info may be there. Now, depending on what info CT required in 1982, all kinds of info could be mined from that certificate. Then you start with - the phone book. There is exactly one P. Womack in Bridgeport CT. And exactly one Patrice Womack listed as a full name in any national phone book (in CA). Can't hurt to actually write to all of the ones in the Bridgeport phone book to start.

Monday, July 22, 2002 at 18:12:16 (PDT)
Oliv Sullivan

I can trace my mother's father's family (Rowland) from Wake County, NC where they came in 1690 from Virginia. The first Rowland that I know of was named William and was married to a Mary Womack or Womach from Virginia. Does any of this ring a bell with anyone?

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 16:57:13 (PDT)

When the Wataugians Governed themselves in the first years.
This is now called the state of Tennessee.
The "Articles of Association" drawn up and adopted by the settlers of the new State in 1772 have long ago been lost. Their proceedings have not been preserved. But it is known that they proceeded to the election of thirteen "Commissioners" and those comissioners were:
John Carter
Charles Robertson
Zachariah Isbell
John Sevier
James Smith
Jacob Brown
William Bean
John Jones
George Russell
Robert Lucas
William Tatham
These commissioners proceeded to the establishment of a court as was evidently provided in the Constitution or "Articles" that has just been adopted. This court was the first one that ever met in what is now our beloved Tennessee, what there was of it then, being simply the "Watauga Settlement". The members of this first court were:
John Carter
Charles Robertson
James Robertson-- I believe this was a typo mistake, I think it was to be James Smith
Zachariah Isbell
John Sevier
Source: Tennessee Cousins, A History of Tennessee People, By Worth S. Ray Copyright 1950

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 18:19:19 (PDT)

Who was the other Jacob Womack there?

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 15:05:23 (PDT)
Peggy Hildreth

Would like to send you some schetches of people that Carlos Womack out of Pinehurt, North Carolina, drew, back in 1950's to 1970's.

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 21:16:03 (PDT)
Ray Bryan Womack I

To Jay Hoodock,
I would appreciate if you would send me a message with your address. I have questions to ask.
Ray Bryan Womack I

Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 12:38:29 (PDT)
Tracie WoMack Easterling


I swear if you were close enough I would hug you to death!!!! I have been at loss with my branch of the Womacks, until I saw your Womack Index here! I found my father, I know it is him, you have his full name and exact bithdate!
I found what I think is his brother and sister, their full names are here, but the birthdates aren't quite right and they do have abt. beside them. My aunt died a few months ago. I am so excited I can hardly type! Is there any chance that you have more info on the people listed on your index?

Thank you so much!

Tracie WoMack Easterling

Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 12:40:14 (PDT)
Tracie WoMack Easterling


P.S. This is also the first time I have ever seen my grandfather's on anything!!!!

Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 12:44:02 (PDT)
Tracie WoMack Easterling


I would love to have the picture. My great-father's name was Sam, I do not know if it was short for Samuel. His wife was called Roxie, I do not know if it was a nickname or not.



Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 14:36:39 (PDT)
barbara davis

in search of info and relatives of a nancy harris womack b:feb, 1830 in tenn. d:july, 1918 in wilson co, tn married to robert davis on 1-25-1849 in white co, tn. ch: william c, sarah e, robertp, hezikiah, jerimiah, mary. any info so apppreciated!sincerly, barbara davis

Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 20:31:11 (PDT)
Tracie WoMack Easterling

Had a little luck. Any info for the following would be appreciated.

Sam Womack m. Roxie

J.M.(died in WWII)
Baby Bea

Copiah or Calhoun Co. MS



Sunday, July 28, 2002 at 06:44:17 (PDT)

Well, feller Womacks, et al spellings, I have just completed a search of the online General Arms of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales - and, you guessed it! They ain't none for Womack other than mebbe the church one the Bishop had and I havent found that one yet..so, until someone can post a copy of one on the web with official certification from the College of Arms, lets lay this lil rumor to sleep!

Sunday, July 28, 2002 at 08:33:14 (PDT)
Tracie WoMack Easterling

I didn't know if anyone else had contacted the College of Arms in England or not. I have, I am waiting for a response. If I can find out anything from them, I would be happy to share.


Sunday, July 28, 2002 at 08:39:24 (PDT)
Tracie W. Easterling


The College of Arms states "There is no such thing for a 'coat of arms' for a surname. THe below is copied from there website.

Q. Do coats of arms belong to surnames?

A. No. There is no such thing as a 'coat of arms for a surname'. Many people of the same surname will often be entitled to completely different coats of arms, and many of that surname will be entitled to no coat of arms. Coats of arms belong to individuals. For any person to have a right to a coat of arms they must either have had it granted to them or be descended in the legitimate male line from a person to whom arms were granted or confirmed in the past.

If anyone would like to view the College of Arms website, it is:



Sunday, July 28, 2002 at 17:08:39 (PDT)

looking for ernest raymond cox jr. born may 1963 any help is great thank you

Monday, July 29, 2002 at 04:06:14 (PDT)
Carolyn Schmitt

I recently found out that a GGrandmother, Susie Mae Cobb, I have been researching, was raised by a Womack. She came from Ill.; with her parents who died. Family bible gives Womack name as Oliver C. Womack. There is a note: parents-Thomas Cobb and Katie?, maybe Hughes? She was born 1883 and said to have a sister and two brothers, Mary, Theodore(pete), Christopher Columbus (Lum). Can find no records on this situation.My cousin who was raised by her said that she mentioned her mother was a midget, that she could stand under her outstretched arm, but I don't know if she was talking about an adopted mother or biological mother. Maybe an adoption,I don't know. Any help would be appreciated.

Monday, July 29, 2002 at 06:13:01 (PDT)
Ray Bryan Womack I

The message I posted 24 July 2002, the name should have been FAY not Jay Hoodock.
Ray Bryan

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 01:27:40 (PDT)


Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 09:06:12 (PDT)
audrey hepburn-white

I am having a problem with my teenage daughter everyday I send her school but she doesn't go I got her a job in my office she comes late. I need help it is getting to the point I might get in trouble because of her. I going to take her to family court on August 5 to see what help I can get please judge Hachett I take you show everyday I need your help.
Thanx Audrey

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 12:36:14 (PDT)
Judge Hachett

Audrey, teenagers are a problem, the only solution is to raise the legal age of abortions to 25 years old. I'll introduce this bill to congress next week.
Judge Hachett

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 16:30:22 (PDT)

We would all like to know who the first Womack was here - then we might be able to go back further and further - that is genealogy.

As far as Adam and Eve, obviously - but as the saying goes - show me the paper!

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 23:16:36 (PDT)
mary predmore

Well here it goes hope someone can help me.....I am looking for a Pauline Womack who was married to an Ernest Day. I have no clue as to what year she was born only that she died in 1995. They lived in Kentucky, I am looking for her parents and siblings. I am at a loss as where to look. I am told that she was of Native American blood lines. If any one can help me locate her please contact me at Tat2lad@aol.com. I need this info because i am trying to do a tree for my fiance, and his family. Thanks so much in advance for taking the time to read this.

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