November 2001 Message Archive

I am not sure how to go about posting this message, but here we go. My great grandfather's name was James Issac Womack. I think (according to my grand father) that my great great grandfather's name was Andrew. James Issac was from Tenn., but moved to Oklahoma in the earle 1900's. What I would like to have is a direct line all the way back as far as possible. I have found the WGN king of hard to read and follow. Way too many abbreviations for my simple mind. Is there anyone who is able to help. I am very proud of my name (as most Womacks are) and would like to know as much about it as possible. I would appreciate the help.

James, I believe James Isaac Womack's , father was Andrew J. from Cannon Co., TN. Andrew was the son of James Jasper Womack, sp Julie Ann Parker. The problem with this line is it is a Thomas Womack sp Louvisa Rice line and no one to date has shown any proof who Thomas Womack's parent were. I have no doubt he is connected to the main branch because of his association with other Womacks and his children married into other Womack lines that we do know. Glad to have you on board and hopefully you can help us sort this one out.

Thanks to those that either gave me Ray Bryans' email address or told him I was trying to reach him. He made contact with me.

Thank you Roger for the info. James Jasper.... What a cool name. I may have to recycle that one so we can really confuse the later generations. I am assuming that James Jasper's dad was Thomas. Is that correct? Thanks for the help. By the way... if your home page is the one called Womack Family News.... WOW!!! What a site. Oh yeah... I loved Porky's! Thanks again!

Hi all,
I was digging through the VA land patents on the LVA site. I found the May 1673 grant to Richard Womack and James Akin. Just out of curiosity, I looked for other patents granted to James Akin. There is one earlier to James Akin on 20 Octber 1665. Take a look at it.

Some items I noticed between these two patents:

1) The 1665 patent starts at "a White Oak at the head of Thomas Webb's land". The 1673 patent starts at "a White Oak at the head of Thomas Well's land". I think one of these is a mis-transcription and it is either Webb or Well's in both place. It is kind of hard to tell from the digital copy.

2) Both of the patents are North of the Appamattock River, and have the exact same pole measurements for the first 4 lines: 160 poles North, 250 poles West, 160 poles South, 250 poles East. The 1673 patent has more measurements after that, which I cannot follow well on the digital copy.

If you assume that Webb/Well is the same guy, these patents are for the exact same patch of land, pretty much. Why would Akin be compelled to re-patent land he was already granted? Was he unable to improve it in the required time and his grant was about to run out? So, he partnered with Richard Womack to re-patent it? I don't know what it means, but I find it interesting. Does anyone have a decent transcription of the May 1673 patent? I would not trust myself with the digital version.

-Mark

WOMACK, 1830s & 1840s, Knoxville, TN

I am specifically looking for info about a Mary Womack who married Jeremiah Journigan/Jarnigan. They were reared and married near Knoxville. Their three children were Monroe, William A., and Charles Alexander b. Sept. 4, 1860 in Webster Co., MO.

This family first moved west to MO and in the spring of 1861 they left for California supposedly for two reasons: gold and to escape the Civil War. They were in a wagon train of 125 wagons out of St. Joseph, MO. The father, Jeremiah, drove a 4-yoke team and the mother agreed to cook for eight men.

Jeremiah died near Mud Springs, NV and was buried there. No record. This probably was on the Lassen Trail. The mother, Mary Womack, continued on to Susanville, CA with another wagon train. It took 6 months to make the trip. The littlest son, Charles Alexander, was 6 months old when they left for CA, so he was 1 year old when they arrived in Susanville. His mother had little money, so ran a boarding house and cooked for the miners. She later married again... a man named Jonathan Thoroughman (later changed to Thurman) and had mroe children.

Does anyone recognize any of these names? Appreciate any help!

To those interested, I found a trascription of the May 1673 patent. William Perry Johnson of the Womack Family Association provided this for the December 1957 Womack Genealogy newsletter (there are transcriptions of many other patents too, see link above.):

To all &c whereas &c now know yee that I ye sd Sr Wm Berkeley Knt &c give & grant unto James Akin & Richd. Womack 335 acres of land in Henrico Coty. on ye north side of Appamattock River beginning at a wt. oake being a corner(?) tree at ye head of Tho. Wells his land, extending into ye woods N 160 po. to fflintons River then W 250 po. S 160 po. E 250 po. then at the heads 106 po. N W by W 160 po. to a small slash running into fflintons S S W 160 po. E 116 po. N 60 po. to the place afore mentioned, 250 acres of ye sd land being formerly granted to ye sd James Akin by Patt. dated 20th of Octobr 1665 the remainder being 85 acres due to ye sd James Akin, & Richd. Womack by & for ye transortacon of 2 psons into this Collonny to have & to hold &c to be held &c yielding &c provided & Dated this 26th of May 1673. [Names of persons transported:] Phillip Childers, Anne Dally.

I don't know what the n/nw s/sw parts are since the first 4 measurement seem to form a perfect rectangle. But I still think the patents are for the same piece of land. Still puzzled as to why James Akin would need to do this. I'm going to post a message on the VA-Southside email list to see if anyone else has an idea. Let you know the outcome.

-Mark

WOMACK, 1830s & 1840s, KNOXVILLE, TN

I am specifically looking for a Mary WOMACK who married Jeremiah JOURNIGAN/JARNAGIN. They were reared and married near Knoxville. Their three children were: Monroe, William A., and Charles Alexander b. Sept. 4, 1860 in Webster Co., MO.

This family first moved west to MO and in the spring of 1861 they left for California supposedly for two reasons: gold and to escept the Civil War. They were in a wagon train of 125 wagons out of St. Joseph, MO. The father, Jeremiah, drove a 4-yoke team and the mother agreed to cook for eight men.

Jeremiah died enar Mud Springs, Nevada and was buried there. No record. This probably was on the Lassen Trail. The mother, Mary Womack, continued on to Susanville, California with another wagon train. It took 6 months to make the trip. The littlest son, Charles Alexander, was 6 months old when they left for CA, so he was 1 year old when they arrived in Susanville. His mother had little money, so ran a boarding house and cooked for the miners. She later married again... a man named Jonathan Thoroughman (later changed to Thurman) and had more children.

Does anyone recognize any of these names? Appreciate any help!

Duh. Guess I should have read the 1673 transcription closer, to wit:

"...250 acres of ye sd land being formerly granted to ye sd James Akin by Patt. dated 20th of Octobr 1665 the remainder being 85 acres due to ye sd James Akin, & Richd. Womack by & for ye transortacon of 2 psons into this Collonny..."

So, duh, yeah, the original 1665 patent is included in the 1673 patent, and it even says so. I'll look at this a bit more to see if there might be some clues as to why James Akin did this re-patent with Richard Womack. Maybe he was going to have Richard improve the land and threw in the extra 85 acres as his payment? There has to be a clue here for a knowledgeable patent person.

I can only claim delerium due to sickness (from a cold, not a softening of the brain) that I did not see the obvious bit of info in the 1673 patent before posting it in my last message. Should have engaged the brain before engaging the fingers at the keyboard and mouse.

-Mark

You may have noticed that the WGN home page changed format slightly. Not much, but some. We are now listing a selection of the various feature and source articles, and we will rotate the selection every now and then. I have also updated the complete list of feature articles, and I have to apologize to some of the great folks that submitted articles and then they didn't get linked properly. I apologize; it won't happen again. So, check out the links. You may discover something you didn't know before, or at least be entertained.

I will be doing a similar update to the source articles as well.

-Mark

Mark this thing is scrolling funny again

I don't know if anyone else is following the World Series, but I get a kick everytime the announcers mention Tony Womack, shortstop for the AZ Diamondbacks. Go Diamondbacks!

It would be interesting to research Tony's family history to see where it goes. I did glean his birthdate from the MSN site that has a short excerpt of his baseball talents (see above link). September 25, 1969, Danville, VA. I don't know if we can do much with it, it being so recent, and none of us directly related (the VA BVS is kind of strict about giving out info to non-family related folks).

If anyone has any ideas of where to go from here, let me know. I don't want to break any privacy laws or anything, just interested. On a baseball related note, I have been told that there was a Womack that played for the Yankee's some time ago. Don't remember the full name this moment.

-Mark

In the process of canceling my AOL account (that I haven't used in a gazillion years), I was cleaning off some old WGN stuff. I ran across the old vital records pages, and to my surprise, found that they were still linked to the main home page. Folks have been posting queries and info there. I thought we had done away with them in favor of the message page, but I guess I missed it in the neglect.

So, I will be reposting the items for everyone to see here on the message page.

I will be removing the link from the main home page, and we will resurrect the vital info pages at some point. There is some neat information that people have shared.

-Mark

Looking for a friend's family Ancestors, Juanita Alphise Womack(Allen) married Leonard E.Allen of Bon Secour,AL Born March 18,1924 we believe in Texas. Died in Bon Secour,Alabama in Dec 12,2000. We need to know who her parents were and where she was really from. She has two sisters in Texas: Nell Womack Page of San Antonio,Texas Betty Joe Womack Stephens of Corpus Cristi,Texas Would appreciate any information concerning this family. friend, Littlewolf

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 12 Sep 2001 -Mark]

I looking for a Saul Womack born around the mid or late 1800's in Pittsylvia Va, or around that area. He had atleast two sons Obrey and Hester. The latter owned a barber shop in Danville, Va. Obrey had 3 sons and 2 daughters. He(Obrey) was once married to Mary Eva Fitzgerald. Thank you and God bless.

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 18 Aug 2001 -Mark]

I am looking for Edward Womack or possibly Womich. His daughter was Martha A. Womack. She was born June 9, 1885 in Yellville, Arkansas. She married George G. Roles sometime bef. 1900 and were divorced bet. 1912 and 1913. She remarried a man named Hardaway and is buried as Martha A. Hardaway in Chetopa, Labette County, Kansas. She died on August 22, 1968. The funeral home listed no know next of kin and her mother was unknown as well. She had three children Troy, Golda, and Melvin. Also her nickname was Meadie. Any help would be appreciated.

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 2 Aug 2001 -Mark]

I'M LOOKING FOR ANY AND ALL INFO REGARDING MY GRANDMA MAEFON FRANCIS WOMACK SHE DIED JUNE OF 94" AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF ANY ONE KNEW HER BECAUSE SHE WAS A WONDERFUL MAMA AND I MISS HER THANKS!

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 2 Aug 2001 -Mark]

I am looking for information about a person named Marilyn Womack, who would have lived in East Saint Louis area of Southern Illinois during the late 1960's.

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 11 Jan 2001 -Mark]

I'M LOOKING FOR ANY AND ALL INFO. ON MY GRANDFATHER GRANT CURTIS WOMACK OR GRANVILL CURTIS WOMACK BORN JUNE 24, 1912 DIED AUGUST 1966 IN OR AROUND FANNIN COUNTY, TEXAS.

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 2 Jan 2001 -Mark]

Am looking for Ida Belle Womack. She married Oliver Hance. She was born Dec 22, 1876 and died July 21, 1953. Are there any descendants who could respond?

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 31 Oct 2000 -Mark]

I'm looking for my two halfs sisters and any family I don't know about, I know their names are Pam and Stacey Womack. I'm to sure if they got married or not. I haven't seen them 16 years. My dad died when I was 5 years old and I really never got to know any of my family from his side. I would love to get to know you if your intrested in me. My name is Patrisha Fawn Womack. Some people call me "Patti." My dads name is Billie Geen Womack and my mothers name is Cheri Womack-Sexton. So if anyone can please help me find my relitives I will be greatly thankfull.

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 14 Sep 2000 -Mark]

I am looking for my great grandfather Henry Logan Womack he was married Mary Loudella M. Black Walker. If you have any info on this subject please email me. Thanks.

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 29 Aug 2000 -Mark]

Searching for family info on Robert Henry Womack b. 29 May 1893, SC, d. 5 Feb 1961, Mont Co., AL. He was married to Minnie James Taylor b. 18 Feb 1893, d. 2 Oct 1983, Mont Co., AL. Robert Henry was born in South Carolina ( per grave hd-stone ), told that his parents moved to Franklin Co., Tenn ( date Unk ) then moved on to Alabama and married. They resided in Butler and Montgomery counties, Alabama. In the earlir years i.e. 9 Mar 1998 issue of WOMACK GENEALOGY, published 1957-1960, Vols I-IV, Mrs Clifton Wolfe, Rt 14, Knoxville, TN listed on Item # 26: Charles Edward Womack b. 5-28-1905, d plane crash 12-31-1954 near Ramer, AL. This is my wife's family. So if ya are FAMILY "PLZ" contact us. Have other info willing to share if ya - R. Dave Any assistance appreciated.

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 1 Aug 2000 -Mark]

Looking for information on George Woodrow "Woody" Womack born 1880's in Cuba Landing. TN. Married Orpha Brady. Children - George W. Womack, Jr., Otis Womack, Gladys Womack, Doris Elnora Womack.

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 21 Jul 2000 -Mark]

Information on Lillie Fay Mantooth Womack and Husband Raymond Womack and daughter Deliluh Sue Womack. Members of my fathers family and i would like to contact Delihuh Sue.

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 2 Jul 2000 -Mark]

I am looking for information on Mary Ann Warmack, born April 27, 1827, in Georgia, probably Franklin or Habersham County, Georgia. She died March 15, 1913 in Habersham County. Mary Ann Warmack married Silas Alexander Addison On February 8, 1849, in Habersham County, GA. They are both buried in the Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery in Clarkesville, Hab. Co., along with one of their sons, William Alexander Addison and his family. I believe Mary Ann to be the daughter of John Warmack, born abt. 1789 in South Carolina. Thanks.

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 9 Jun 2000 -Mark]

Seeking info. on Martha Ann Womack--born Sept. 17, 1854 in MS died Dec. 8, 1937 and Married George Washington West, March 25, 1875.. She is daughter of John M. Womack (born July 5, 1836) and Sara Basten. This is the only informtion that I have on Martha as I have just began to research the WOMACK side of my family. Any info. would be appreciated...

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 2 Jun 2000 -Mark]

Need any info on Mary Elizabeth Womack, birth date unknown, believed to have married William Counce or Counts Bowen. Their children were Lu born May 1865, Jessey William born March 1868, John born Oct 1875, Mass born abt 1881 and Julia Ann born Aug 1881. They possibly had other children; Ell, James and Joseph.

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 16 Apr 2000 -Mark]

Trying to locate information on my husbands great grandfather - Earl Womac from Cleveland, Tenn married to Mary Woods Had several children - Lorena, Toni, Hazel,Frances, Clarence, Russel, and Chester. Need information on family tree as well as information relating to Indian heritage. I believe he was part Cherokee. Thank you in advance for your help.

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 16 Mar 2000 -Mark]

Temperance (Tempy) Womack m. 3-13-1783 James C. Alsobrook in Southampton, VA. Need information on the Womack line. Thank you.

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 9 Mar 2000 -Mark]

Looking for any info on my grandfather James Stedman Womack (1898 - ?). Apparently, he died in his 20's or 30's and as a result, his children were scattered among relatives. Believe they lived in Johnston County or Orange County, NC.

[originally posted on the old lookup page on 25 Feb 2000 -Mark]

I apologize if any of the beloe messages are duplicates, but better safe than sorry. If anyone can help these folks, contact them and let us know of any success!

-Mark

Please change my e-mail address in researcher list.

Thank you

Trying to locate marriage certificate in Mexico Married James Haywood Naylor, on August 1968 my name Patiricia Ann Davis Bradshaw, trying to find this out for my Aunt she is not having any luck finding anyone that can help her, any suggestions will help a great deal. At least some directons have wrote Mexico and called no one seems to know what department we need. Please e-mail me with any information. Thanks a bunch

Well, I ordered every Accomack Co. VA. record in the LDS catalog (for the time period, c.1650-1715, when members of that alleged Henry Womack family supposedly were there) and they have arrived (15 films) at my FHL so am about to go out and start searching! By the way people frequently patented the same land twice. I don't know why.

I am doing research for a paper on the Battle of Doctortown. So i need all the information i can get on this Battle. It was around Dec. 19, 1864 took place near Jesup, Ga. as sherman's army crossed the altamaha river. That's about all i know. I anyone knows anything i would be very thankful for your assist.

For those of you who dont already know, our "Cuz" Lee Ann Womack took top female
vocalist at the CMA awards Wed Nite!! Way to go Lee Ann and congratulations!!!!

Update. In Re: Alleged Henry Womack family of Accomack Co. VA 1650-1715. Have done 12 of 15 LDS/FHL films and unless these people never died, owned land, or in any other way found their way into court or public record, they didn't exist.

It has been awhile since I have visited the Womacks. I am just letting you know my new email address.

I dont hit my guest books often but did today and feel the Oct 27 post on one should be shared with Roger -

"Your web site is terrific. I commend you for your effort in placing this wealth of information on the internet for all to see. It is often difficult to get to a facility to find census information, and much of what I know about my Womack family has come from your web site and Roger Womack's web site. You two guys are true genealogists. Keep up the good work."

David,
inre: Henry.
Do you have access to these? They supposedly, allegedly, and probably are a figment of someone's overwrought and expensive imagination as far as Henry goes.
The Womack & Allied Families by Thomas pub. 1932, p. 154
Early Settlers of Mass. by Stull pp19-33
Vital Records of Massachusetts by Stiles Vol 3 through 9

I am doing research on my Womack connection. I am wondering if anyone knew of William R. Womack, he was born in 1807 in North Carolina. His second marriage to Hannah produced my GGGrandmother, Mayette Jane Womack. She was born in 1852, in Missouri and passed in 1933. My Grandmother tells me she was of Cherokee descent. If anyone can support this, please let me know. If you have any info on William I wuld appreciate it also. thank you, Lisa

Sam. Thanks for the question. I believe I've covered this in the past, but it's worth repeating. The answer is I've tried to see those references. Two, Stull and Stiles, I cannot find, either by author, title, or subject, in the catalogs of: the Library of Congress, the Family History Library, the DAR Library, the Allen County Public Library, the library of the New England Historical and Genealogical Society, and the library of the National Genealogical Society. I conclude that they do not exist. The third, Thomas, appears in the catalog of the LOC but the book has disappeared from the library. Without checking my records, at least one of the sources for these bogus references is a contribution by someone in one of the old Womack Family periodicals. That source also was one which cited the famous "XVII Cent. Applic" or something like that which I'll bet a doughnut the person citing had no clue what it meant. As always, happy to be shown to be wrong.

Now then. More on all known records of Accomack VA of the time. Have done all but two films (on back order). No Womacks or conceivable variants. Have ordered all Northampton County records on basis part of the time Accomack was Northampton. But will bet another doughnut: there will be no Womacks. To repeat another posting: supposedly Henry and Phoebe were in Middlesex MA before Accomack but I spent days going through the Birth/Marriage/Death records of all Middlesex towns with same result. No Womacks. I'll bet a dozen doughnuts this time: this whole family, at least in MA and the Delmarva peninsula, is a fabrication.

Finally (for tonight) on this subject. Does anyone out there claim descendancy from Henry and Phoebe? If so let us hear from you.

My Great-Grandfather was John Souheaver (12/1/1882-12/1972)fromSaline co. IL Harrisburg area He was Married to Callie Womack. I have been searching all over for a referance to this "Callie", possibly short for Carolyn or other. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you. Please e-mail me at Danso88@excite.com

I would like to thank all Womack,Wamack and Warmack and others for Genealogy
research they have done and shared. I am looking for info on John Warmack B.
1810 Ga. He and family moved to Ms. after he was born. He mar. Sarah M.? and
had kids. First one B. 1834 Ms.John had a brother William Warmack Mar. Rachel
Penney. Also a sister Patience Warmack Mar. Henry Moffitt.Maybe other brothers
and sisters. Would like to have info on parents and syblings. Have hit a wall
I can't get around or over. Anything would help.

Sincerily, M. W.

MW
Have you looked in Copiah Co MS? That is where Patience married a Henry spelled Muffett in 1824 -- Her name was spelled Womack on the marriage record.
Because of the similarity in Henry's name and her first - believe this to be them... go to my web page and click in on Womack Wonderings then on Georgia and Mississippi Womacks...

My gggrandmother is Angeline Womack Smith. If anyone knows about her I will appreciate any information. Thank you, Carol

Dear Sam ,Your web site was very helpful. Many ,Many,Many thanks. As to Patience, she and her family followed John and his family to every County they
lived in. Want to wish all a Happy Thanksgiveing.
M. W.

Roger, et. al:

I have pulled this information because I have been searching for Mary E. Womack
the "widow" of Tignal Archer Womack (son of Dick and Harriet Womack of Carter County, KY.) At the time of this census, Archie/TA and Mary's daugher Jesten (Livonia Jesten Womack was leaving in Carter County with Dick and Harriet. She was just 15 and had ridden on horseback from VA to KY to find her grandparents.
TA/Archie had disappeared during the Civil War and was presumed dead (found to have simply begun a new life with another wife & kids in LA and TX).

Do any of you know if the Mary E in this household could be my Mary E. (Moore) Womack? The age is off a little...but she is the only Mary E. I can find in the 1880 Census who looks like a possible match. And, does anyone know the relationship between CW Womack and Dick Womack's family. I'm thinking that he may have been a nephew or a close cousin. It seems like 15 yr old Jessie wouldn't have ridden from VA to KY alone...Could another Womack have escorted her?

I'd appreciate any insights. Here is the info Roger posted on this site (Thanks Roger!)

Sharon
Buffalo NY

Census Place: Danville, Pittsylvania, Virginia
Source: FHL Film 1255385 National Archives Film T9-1385 Page 535A
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
C. W. WOMACK Self M M W 27 VA
Occ: Lumber Merchant Fa: VA Mo: VA
Mary E. WOMACK Other F M W 33 VA
Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: VA
Bellie WOMACK Dau F S W 12 VA
Occ: At School Fa: VA Mo: VA
Sedan WOMACK Son M S W 8 VA
Occ: At School Fa: VA Mo: VA
Maud WOMACK Dau F S W 5 VA
Fa: VA Mo: VA
Mary WOMACK Dau F S W 3 VA

Got a couple of queries that have drifted my way in the last week or so.
1) Anyone have any ideas about Jesse Womack, the brother of Indian Abe Womack? I've got zippo on him, although it's possible that the second family I have for Jesse son of Mansel has gotten confused with this Jesse (hard to say, as the wife Jane Lewis Melvin Womack seems to be related to all the other Lewis people who married into the Mansel family).

and the related question
2)any ideas of what happened to Jesse and William, Mansel's half brothers? Last heard from in GA when they were minors in 1797 at the probating of their father's estate. I don't think they were the ones marrying in the 1830s in GA, they would have been in their 30s or 40s at that point.

Ann

I am trying to identify the relationship between three Womacks who lived in Chatham County, NC in the early-and mid-1800's and married women in the Taylor fmaily.
GREEN WOMACK(b. Nov 12, 1782, d July 23, 1856) was married first to Mary Walker Taylor(m Mar 19, 1817) and second to Ann McBryde (m Mar 2, 1825). Mary Walker Taylor (b Feb 1 1799, d Apr 20, 1823)had children Mary, who married Rev. Dr. Jones, a Methodist minister and James (Dr. James Womack). Mary Walker Taylor was the daughter of James Taylor (d Feb 24, 1830) and second wife Mary Lucas(b Aug 19, 1776, m Apr 30 1795, d Jan 15, 1860)
JUDGE THOMAS B. WOMACK married Susie Taylor. Susie Taylor(b. 1865 d Oct 4 1906) was the daughter of Cpt. John Wesley Taylor and Sarah Ann McClennehan (m. Nov 27 1854 and had 18 children). Sarah Ann McClennahan was b Feb 16, 1837 and d Dec 24, 1878.
Susie Taylor also had a niece who married a "JUDGE T. B. WOMACK". Susie's brother Philip, who married Jennie Poe had six children, one of whom was Carried (an unusual name, so I wonder if my info has a typo and it should be Carrie. "Carried" was married twice, first to Judge T. B. Womack and second to a Mr Roper (In 1939 they lived in Petersbury, Va.)
So...can someone tell me how these three Womacks are related? I suspect that the judges may be father and son, but can find no proof of that idea.
Thanks for any help you may be able to give!
Drusilla

My grandfather, Edgar Allen Hawk, came to Wash. D.C. from Nashville TN (?) shortly before the turn of the 20th cen. His mom's name was Womack. He came with 3 siblings: Rush, Etta, and William. 'Went to work for the old Times Newspaper. Lived in Mrs. Toones Boarding House in S.W. Washington. He met my grandmother, Marie Theresa Hutton, who lived with her family down the street.

My gran was born in 1883, his birthdate would've been a few years before that. We'll get more information but for now- anyone have any information on Gr. Grandmother Womack?

Thanks, Barb

RE: TONY WOMACK......SHORTSTOP FOR AZ DIAMONDBACKS...I TELL EVERYONE
THAT WE ARE TWIN BROTHERS..THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS...I WAS BORN DURING
THE DAY...AND HE WAS BORN DURING THE NIGHT...HENCE WE WERE KNOWN AS'TNT
I AM TRYING TO GO BEYOND MY GRANDFATHERS RECORD..ie: JOHN DAVID b. 2/19/1871 d.8/20/1963 MARRIED BEULAH DELL HIX...b.7/16/1876-d.9/5/1945 I HAVE HIS LINE OUT OF
FLAT CREEK, TENN. TO ARIZONA...BUT BEYOND THAT,I THINK MY FAMILY TREE..
WAS A TELEPHONE POLE......(NO BRANCHES) THANKS FOR ANY HELP..TIM WOMACK

Tim, the daylight half!
I have had some contact with the Womacks here in AZ; some who moved outta TX into here (AZ) -- will have to dig a bit deep into some old records -- I do remember some were into the area around Wichita Falls TX then moved westward --
If you can refresh me with some names and dates in between TN and AZ mebbe I can ge tto it quicker..

Tim & Sam,
That is one of Michaels descendants. John David, was the son of Jordan Hale Womack, son of Charles W. Womack, son of Michael Womack & Sarah Jones.

Roger, are you sure? I thought John David was the son of Andrew Jackson Womack, Jordan Hale's brother. I know in 1880, Andrew Jackson was in Bedford Co., TN, district 22, with a 9 year old son named J.D. Ann

Ann, to say I'm 100% sure, no. I have Andrew Jackson Womack sp Sarah Pearson with children; Sallie Womack,

Oops, hit the wrong button. Once again Andrews children; Sallie, Lucille, Oliver, J.D. Womack b 1870, Bertie, Eustace, and Bettie.

His brother Jordan Hale sp Mary Almeda Ray, their children I have as: John David Womack born 19feb1871, Jesse b 1872, Charles Marion b 4mar1873, Elisha Eddy b 10apr1875, Eva and Emma.

I'll do some checking to confirm I just don't have the proof right in front of me.

Ann, based on this census info you sure may be correct, I sure don't see John David here with Jordan and he should be, thanks for the correction, now I need to chase down where that info came from or whether I just input the data wrong.

1880 Census Place: District 22, Bedford, Tennessee
Source: FHL Film 1255244 National Archives Film T9-1244 Page 362B
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
Jordan H. WOMACK Self M M W 32 TN
Occ: Manufacture Of Lumber Fa: TN Mo: TN
A. M. WOMACK Other F M W 28 TN
Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: TN
Charlie M. WOMACK Other M S W 7 TN
Fa: TN Mo: TN
Eva WOMACK Other F S W 3 TN
Fa: TN Mo: TN
Emma WOMACK Other F S W 2 TN
Fa: TN Mo: TN
Marvin QUINN Other M S W 4 TN
Occ: Works At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN
Note: Jordan Hale Womack, sp. Mary Almeda Ray. RGW

1880 Census Place: District 22, Bedford, Tennessee
Source: FHL Film 1255244 National Archives Film T9-1244 Page 361C
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
A. J. WAMACK Self M M W 40 TN
Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN
Sarah C. WAMACK Wife F M W 33 TN
Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: TN
Oliver WAMACK Son M S W 10 TN
Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN
J. D. WAMACK Son M S W 9 TN
Fa: TN Mo: TN
Blanche WAMACK Dau F S W 8 TN
Fa: TN Mo: TN
Eustace WAMACK Son M S W 5 TN
Fa: TN Mo: TN
Jennie WAMACK Dau F S W 3 TN
Fa: TN Mo: TN
Bettie WAMACK Dau F S W 1 TN
Fa: TN Mo: TN
Alect DEAN Other M S B 24 TN
Occ: Hired On Farm Fa: TN Mo: TN

A nice Lady named Sharon Benda tracked these down and sent this to me - She is a Denton descendant - thought this might be of some interst to some of you:

WOMACK PRINTING CO., INC
105 Donnell Street
McMinnville, TN 37110
Phone (615) 473-7212
Fax (615) 473-6252

The following books are still available for sale:

McMINNVILLE AT A MILESTONE by Walter Womack A comprehensive history
of McMinnville and Warren County, Tennessee from 1810-1960. - .$25.00

SEDBERRY INN RECIPES - A collection of the favorite Southern recipes of
an historic McMinnville hostelry; copyright 1941. - $3.50

1850 CENSUS of WARREN COUNTY, TENNESSEE - Lists name, state of birth and age
of every free person living in Warren County in 1850. - $6.50

MARRIAGE RECORDS OF'WARREN COUNTY, TENNESSEE (1852-1900) Copied from the county
records. - $6.50

SOME OF THE DESCENDANTS OF REV. RICHARD DENTON - The genealogy of this family
in England & America with emphasis on the Tennessee branches, published in 1959
by Edythe Whitley. - $6.50

THE DESCENDANTS OF THOMAS & LOUVISA RICE WOMACK - A family genealogy compiled
by Oscar B. Womack, published in 1970. - .$6.50

EARLY HISTORY OF WARREN COUNTY A brief form of the early history of Warren County
compiled in 1902 and published in 1930. $6.50

Please add $2.00 for Postage & handling to all books.

Hi All,

According to my father, his maternal grandmother was named Nancy Arphelia Wammock or Wammack, who married Julius Andrew Rhoden in Richmond Co. GA about 1894. He remembers having uncles named Eli, Barry, Harris, George, Tom, and John. Looking at census records, I found:


1880 Census - Appling Co. GA

p. 15b, Dist. 442
James Wannock, 48, Farmer, GA-GA-GA
Margreat, 44, Keeping House
Francis (m), 23, Works on Farm
Eli, 21, "
Mary J., 15
Ardelia (f), 10
Olief L., 8
Burnell, 11, Works on Farm


I _believe_ this is her family - at least they're in the right place and the names are close enough.

Does James Wammock or Wammack, born about 1832 in Georgia ring a bell with anyone?

Thanks,
Jeffrey


PS Roger - it looks like you need to broaden your search of the 1880 census to include Wannock, Warnock, and any other way of mangling the name you can think of. ;)

ROGER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INFO YOU SENT...I AM NOT SURE IF I UNDERSTAND THE INFO YOU SEEK...ie: FILL IN THE BLANKS...BUT SINCE THERE WAS NOT MUCH ON ME....AND I BEING THE SEMI-ARROGANT JACKASS THAT I AM....I TOO,. WAS IN RODEO,FROM BEING THE 1963 ARIZONA HIGH SCHOOL BAREBACK RIDING CHAMPION, TO A CAREER AS A CLOWN/BULLFIGHTER FROM 1960 TO 1980.....A 2nd GENERATION CLOWN/BULLFIGHTER AFTER ANDY OF COURSE...AT 18 YEARS OF AGE I WAS THE YOUNGEST CLOWN/BULLFIGHTER, EVER TO BUY MY CARD TO JOIN THE RODEO COWBOYS ASSOC.
TIMOTHY ANDREW b.11/24/1945 MARRIED JUDY CURILO 10/5/68..1 CHILD..GIRL..TANYA AHNA..divorced..1973.........1975 MARRIED RUTH KENNEDY..1 CHILD..BOY..TRAMPAS ANDREW...divorced..1978 1980..MARRIED GAYLEEN WATTS.....divorced..1985..NO CHILDREN...I HOPE THIS HELPS ! P.S. PORTER WOMACK DIED ON 1/20/69

I've been searching and recording, and have suffered with Excel and Word long enough. I'm now willing to spend money on a top notch Genealogy/Family Tree Program for my PC at home. I was hoping I could get some suggestions on what to look for and what programs are most popular with serious researchers. Thank you in advance for any help I can get.

Daniel, asking about one's favorite genealogy program is a little like asking about one's favorite operating system - it tends to start flame wars! The key thing to do is make sure that it has GEDCOM import and export ability. That will allow you to exchange files with relatives with some ease. Now, as to which is the best, alot depends on what operating system you have (well, obviously!) I trust from seeing that you use Excel that you don't have a Mac or Linux box, but a PC. There are quite a few programs around, for the PC - PAF, FamilyTreeMaker, TheMasterGenealogist (TMG), Generations, and a bunch of others. Personally I use Brother's Keeper. What?!? Yes, I started back with these programs back in the days when PCs ran DOS and BK was a dominate program. It now runs under Windows, and is still shareware, and John Steed, the author is still quite a nice person to deal with. It is limited compared to some of the others that are new and native Windows instead of ported programs. I may switch one of these days to one of the others.

PAF aka Personal Ancestral File, is a) free b) done by the LDS church library and c) has more tools than I really need and since I don't want to submit anything to the LDS temple, I don't really care about that.
http://www.ldscatalog.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=369179&prmenbr=1402&CGRY_NUM=373032&RowStart=1&LocCode=FH

(all on one line) will get you the link to the program and a description.

FamilyTreeMaker is a nice program, a tad clunky for my tastes design-wise. It comes in various flavors http://www.genealogy.com will get you the main page with links to it. You can also buy it at virtually ANY computer store on-line - it is probably the most available program. Some of it's varieties come with data CD-ROMs that may well be helpful depending on how far along your research already is.

TMG is made by by Wholly Genes (www.whollygenes.com)and also comes in a couple of versions - standard and gold I think. It's also fairly available at stores. I know a couple of professional genealogists who greatly prefer TMG, so I will probably look at it at upgrade time, in part it'll read my native BK files without having to trot through a GEDCOM transfer.

Generations I don't know much about, sadly.

Anyway, if you hit the various sites, many of them have screen shots and demos that you can look at, then shop for price - which vary wildly. I've seen slightly older editions of the programs going for shipping on the discount sites, then enabling you to use the free or cheap upgrade price for the latest version. But, then I'm notoriously cheap. Happy Shopping.

i found this site while searching for information about my grandmother for a geneology project. her name was clarabelle mosby and was the neice of john s. mosby. she married benjamin lewis johnson and had a son andrew mosby johnson. i would appreciate if anyone has any information or source that i can go to to email me. thank you very much. rakfet johnson

Rakefet, assuming we are talking about John Singleton Mosby the Grey Ghost of the Confederacy - he was b. 1833 d. 1916, and he was the son of Alfred Daniel and Virginia Jackson McLaurine, and from there you can go back about 7 generations of Mosbys in VA. He had somewhere between 7 and 10 sisters and one brother. Now, since your grandmother was named Mosby, I'll assume then, that means her father was supposed to be his brother. That would be William Harrison Mosby b. 1846 - he apparently became a postmaster someplace in VA and died in 1913, and was apparently married twice - once to Lucy Booth and second to Mary Wilson and he did serve as a teenager with the Rangers. Now, while some Mosbys are related to the Womacks, this particular line of Mosbys is more related to the Woodsons as I recall, so I'm trying to recall if I know a Grey Ghost person. Off hand, I can't think of one. You might try Lisa Pender, she was researching this same topic some months ago - she's penderlj@yahoo.com
Or you can try the Mosby Museum, which has a website www.mosbymuseum.org and see if they know - John S did write a memoir, so you'd think that someone would have written the thing down.

Now, that said, it seems to me that your grandmother probably died in VA after 1912, and so probably there is a death certificate for her, and it likely names her parents. Also, it should be fairly simple to find the family in the census in 1870, 1880, 1900

Update on the alleged Henry Womack family of Accomack VA. Am now halfway through the Northampton VA records (Accomack was sometimes Northampton) and not a trace of any Womacks. One more night at my local FHC should seal it. David.

David, I'm also pretty much of the opinion that the Henry line is bogus. I've loaded a little over 64,000 Womack descendants in my database, thousands of pages and this line consist of about 5 pages. The dates are just to perfect in the 1600's and early 1700's and the only line to present that I have in my database is Eleanor, b. 1710 who married Thomas Weaver b. abt 1705, marriage date November 20, 1731 in Augusta Co., VA. Eleanor was supposedly the dau of Daniel Womack sp Sarah Liston, son of George, son of Henry. I think we are going to find that Eleanor if she existed is in the main Womack line somewhere. I've just never been able to prove who she belonged to.

Please Help Me! I've been trying to find a "Callie" Womack. My Great Grandfather's Name was John Souheaver (12/1/1882 - 12/1972) From Saline Co. Illinois. His wife was "Callie" They had 8 children Elmer,Claude,Lucian,Bessie, Judy,Marci,Hazel,and Lillian. No one in my family knows anything about Callie except her name. I would love to be able to connect her to a past. or even just find out if her first name was really Callie. any help would be very much appreciated.

Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 19:03:29 (PST)
Joe Birdwell
taffi@kiski.net

My aunt, Annie Birdwell married Love Womack in Texas approx. 1919. Had three children. Thelma born 1921, Frank, 1923, Loyd born 1920. All were born in Texas, then moved to California never to be heard from again. Found info that all children are deceased. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks

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