August 2001 Message Archive

JOHN simopson WOMACK OF CHEROKEE CO.AL.; HIS NAME MAYBE JOHN H WOMACK ////
IN ETOWAH COUNTY,HOAKES BLUFF PRECINT 1900 IS// JOHN H WOMACK b JUNE 1864// SOPHRONIA a B DEC 1863//CLAUDE C DAUGHTER 6 YRS OLD //JOHN B SON 4 YRS OLD //GRADY 2 YRS OLD.

GRADY WOMACK WAS BORN JAN 9 1898 AT HOAKES BLUFF AL./HE MARIED ESTER PRUDENCE FLOYD (THIS CAME FROM ESTER'S BIBLE) CLEOPHUS WOMACK B JUNE 18 1904 IN AL.
(MY GRAND DAD)MARRIED MINNIE MYRTLE FLOYD cleophus wasn't born in 1900.

SO JOHN SIMPSON WOMACK MAYBE JOHN H WOMACK /JOHN B'S AGE IS RIGHT/ GRADY'S AGE IS RIGHT ALSO/// A STORY ABOUT CLEMMY WHO DIED YOUNG as told by louie womack (my dad) she came back from the barn and said i saw the prettiest angel at the barn a few days later she died

Here is a Brown Marrying a Womack if the LDS is correct:
Sarah WOMACK (AFN: G064-20)
Birth: Abt 1772 Virginia
Parents:
Father: Jesse WOMACK (AFN: G063-XB) Family
Mother: Sarah DANIEL (AFN: G063-ZH)
Marriage(s): Spouse: Richard BROWN (AFN: 1RGJ-SZD

Just for fun and with some info supplied by Jim Garner,
I ran a check on Sarah Daniels/Jesse Womack. I find:

William Womack, b abt 1647 and Jane ??
Thomas Womack, b abt 1670 and Mary ?
William Womack b abt 1720 and ??
Jesse b. abt 1743 and Sarah 'Sallie" Daniel (Daniels has been used also)
(Sarah remarried to Edward Hancock in Sep 1792)
Jesse and Sarah begat Sarah who m. Robert Brown

From Jim Garner:
From Bedford Co. VA marriage records:
Dec. 2, 1794; Richard Brown & Sarah Womax; John Folden, Surety; Consent
of Sarah Hancock, mother of Sarah; Married by James Turner, Dec. 4,
1794.
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John I Daniel and Elizaneth ? JOhn II Daniel and Mary Williams(my 9th)
John III Daniel and Anne Bates(my 8th)
William Daniel and Elizabeth Watkins
Sarah Daniel and Jesse Womack
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William was the brother to
John IV Daniel who married Anne Williams(my 7th)
and had Sarah "Patsy" Daniel who married John Harrison(my 6ths)
Anne Williams was the sister to
John Williams who married Mary Womack
Mary was daughter of
William and Mary Woodson Womack
William son of Abraham and Sara Somerscales Womack
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So--William Daniel was the uncle of my 6th great
grandmother Sarah "Patsy" Daniel who was a first
cousin to Sarah Womack..daughter of Jesse Womack
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Interesting also is that the Mary Williams who m. John II Daniel
was the aunt of John Williams who married Mary Womack; and
Anne who married John IV!! And her mother was Anne Watkins!!
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Anyway, goes to show you, we are all cousins in one way or another!!!

Anyone researching Womacks in Texas might find this helpful:

John Colville, b La, son of Joseph B. Colville mar Mrs. Nancy H. (Thompson) Womack 20 May 1855 Newton Co. Tx. She mar (1) John C. Womack 16 Mar. 1852 Newton Co. Tx.

In the North Lopham registers are a Margaret Womack married James Sare of bridgeham 21 october 1793.

Two days later another Margaret Womack married Thomas Gooch, both of North lopham, 23 October 1793. I am descended from these.


Can anyone help me sort out who the parents of both these Margaret Womacks are please.

Hello everyone,

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-Mark

my name is steve womack
im trying to find information on boyd & nannie womack lived in virginia early
1800's
steve womack
stevewomac@aol.com

I am looking for any information on Saul Womack born around the mid to late 1800's in Pittsylvia County Virginia or any area nearby. He had several children two of which where Obrey and Hester. The latter owned a barber shop in Danville Virginia. Obrey had 3 boys and 2 girls. Obrey,Woodrow,Henry,Izetta,and Cora. He(Obrey) was married to Mary Eva Fitzgerald. If anyone has any information please contact me. Thank you and God bless.

Thursday, August 02, 2001 at 16:53:27 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@qwest.net

John mebbe this help a bit:


66. William10 Womack (Edmund9, Edmund8, Robert7, John6, Lawrence5 Womock, Hugh4 Womocke,
William3, William2 Wamocke, William1 Wamuke) was born Abt. 1738, and died 1811.
He married Elizabeth Murton 1765 in S. Lopham.

Notes for William Womack:
He had a brother, Thomas, who maried as second wife Margaret Murton.

Of N. Lopham farmer & linen weaver. C. 1738 N. Lopham. Purch. prop. of Rob Watson of
Kenninghall & the Howlett prop. from Mary Mann w. 1790; bro. to Rob. 1794. bur N.
Lopham 1811 aet. 72 Will dat. 1808 pr. N/A 1811. m.S. Lopham. lic. 1765 Elizab. Murton.

Children of William Womack and Elizabeth Murton are:


95 iv. Margaret Womack, born 1771. She married James Sare.

Notes for Margaret Womack:

b. 1771, liv 1808. marr Jas. Sare of S. Lopham.
There are more children of William but...
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Interesting that later on we find these

Elizabeth SARE
William WOMACK
Marriage: 5 DEC 1822, South Lopham, Norfolk, England

Thomas SARE
Sarah Ann WOMACK
Marriage: 14 APR 1835, North Lopham, Norfolk, England
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On the Gooch side of it - I would say we have
brother and sister marrying brother and sister, but I
havent found parents for John and Margaret yet..

John WOMACK
Elizabeth GOOCH
Marriage: 27 OCT 1789, North Lopham, Norfolk, England

Margaret WOMACK
Thomas GOOCH
Marriage: 23 OCT 1793, North Lopham, Norfolk, England

Would like to find out how the Womacks who lived out west in okla. ark. and texas are related to the Womacks that lived in Tn. and Va. i am related to William Womac b1610 came from England settled in Henrico co. Va moved to Polk co Tn. my grandfather was Levi Womac b1854 would appreciate any information

Thanks to all of you for letting me know the WGN message page gave up the ghost for a few days. Mark was able to get us up and running again. "Thanks Mark"

I'm trying to find out some information on a Ron Womack that is curently in the Air Force, stationed in Oklahoma or Texas. Can anyone help me locate him, or have any information on him for my recors? Thank you.

Another Ron

Thursday, August 09, 2001 at 14:47:26 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@qwest.net

Ron

Try this one at Dyess Air Force Base, Abilene TX

Womack, Ronnie
238 Washington Loop
Dyess Afb, TX 79607
915-692-5386

Thanks for getting the messages back up guys! The only news I had was that the DAR at www.dar.org now has a lookup service for their patriot index. It's not automated, bizarrely enough, but has a human on the other end looking things up. So, if you have an index handy, it's of no use to you. OTOH, if you don't it could be handy. And it has the instructions for ordering an application. Fair warning that the older applications aren't nearly as accurate as the new ones. OTOH, the very first success I had on my Womack line was with the DAR who had a fairly close cousin's application and she was an absolute gold mine of information. Ann

I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT INFORMATION ON THE STEPHENS FAMILY.WHERE THEY ORIGINATED FROM. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT IF THE FAMILY ORIGINATED IN GERMANY.

I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT INFORMATION ON THE STEPHENS FAMILY.WHERE THEY ORIGINATED FROM. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT IF THE FAMILY ORIGINATED IN GERMANY.THE STEPHENS FAMILY RESIDES IN NEW ORLEANS LA, JOSEPH STEPHENS SUPOSSABLY CAME TO THE UNITED STATES FROM BODEN BOND GERMANY.

Mr Stephens
Just for the record, there is no place in Germany called Boden Bond--perhaps
you mean Baden Baden?? And, by the way, I lived in Germany so I am quite
familiar with it.

Looking for any info on Tacy Ann Womack ,b6-22-1842;d10-6-1876 maWilliam Allen Philipott 6-11-1856.Two teachers ,Bob and Sara Womack taught in Bedford County, Tn H.S.and both said I was kin to them thru Tacy Ann. She is buried on the west side of Mink Slide Rd just north of shelbyville,tn. Tacy is my gg grandmother.Who was her parents ,brothers or sisters and how do they relate to the Bedford County Womacks. Jesse Phillips

Jesse, Tacy Womack, was the daughter of Hawkins Womack and Jenny Cooper. Hawkins was the younger brother of Michael, b 1794 sp., Sarah Jones, who went to Arkansas.
They are believed to be the children of David and Elizabeth, David being the son of Alexander and Martha.

Roger, you helped me a lot some time back to connect my Womack family back several generations. I had a tape made by an elderly cousin and my mother which I was transcribing to FTM.
Now, I believe I have found my grandfather, Willis Womack(spelled Wamack on the census) and his parents, siblings on your 1880 Tennessee census listing here on WGN. On the tape my mother reminds her cousin that they are kin to the Wamacks as well. You even have a note at the bottom of it that they descend from Willis Lafayette Womack. The only name in the family on the census, not mention on the tape I have is Monroe. The other siblings are mentioned on it, and the ages are right, I believe. `I will keep looking to prove this. Thanks for all your help. Betty

Betty, don't be to concerned with the spelling on census records, many of of ancestors didn't read or write or their education was pretty limited to say the least. Census takers just wrote it down the way it sounded. My great-grandparents pronounced it Womick and that is how it appeared on the census. I've found over 40 different spellings of our surname that connect back to the Womack line. I think Sam may have found a few more. Some may have changed their surname, but I would guess most after learning to read and write found some record written by someone, wills, marriage records, census etc., and that became the spelling.

JAMES ROMEO PHILLIPS had a daughter SALLY PHILLIPS marry FRANK P WOMACK.Third Sunday August every year at HARMON FIELD TRYON,POLK COUNTY,NC FAMILY REUNION.

I found this infomation, and maybe someone can use.
Cemeteries-- Confederate Cemetery; Franklin, TN. 1864 ;
Franklin Cemetery.
(Tennessee Section only)
J. B. WOMACK
# 147-E16..Tenn
Tennessee Section 61---Microfilm--Roll # 209-- Tenn, State Library and Archives

Dee Brown,
Did I not share the info with you on Levi Alexander Womack?? I could have sworn that I sent you everything I had on him, and all his ancestors.. If not, let me know, and I'll be glad to send it. I know we have shared a lot of info with each other, but maybe this was overlooked . As far as the Womacks who moved west..well there was a big migration of people going west from TN, AL, GA, VA, etc. after 1880, and a lot of relatives made the move. Most of them settled in either AR, OK, or TX. A few examples of the Womack family are Elijah T Womack, who moved from Polk Co., TN to Meigs Co, TN and then settled in Benton Co, Ar from 1881 to about 1920, then he moved to McDonald Co., Missouri; Nep Womack, who settled in Latimer Co., OK.; my Howells, who were from Roane Co. TN, then moved to Polk Co, TN sometime after 1880, then Hunt Co, TX in 1900, and ended up settling in McIntosh Co., Lincoln Co, etc.. in Oklahoma.

Monday, August 13, 2001 at 12:14:34 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@qwest.net

Actually Roger,
I have recently found two more spellings, with help from another, in the US-
bringing the grand total to 46 different spellings in the US and 39 in England and two potentials in Germany - probables now up to 85 -

http://www.womacknet.net/plantagenet.htm
For those of you in Thomas Womack and Mary Farley's line or David Womack and Mildred Pryor's line this is what I have gathered back to Plantagenet, Count of Anjou. This line also descends to the present day Queen Elizabeth. With this information and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee, but I though it was interesting.

Variations in Spelling to Look for"

WALMACK, WAMAC, WAMACH, WAMACK, WAMMACK, WAMUCK,
WAMMUCK, WARMACK, WAMEC, WAMECK, WAMIC, WAMICK,
WAMOCK, WAMOX, WAYMACK, WAYMOCK WEMACK, WEYMACK,
WIMMICK, WOEMACK, WOLMACK, WOMAC, WOMACH, WOMACK, WOMMACK,
WOMACKS, WOMAK, WOMAX, WOMECK, WOMECKE, WOMIC,
WOMICK, WOMMICK, WOMOCK, WOMMOCK, WOMUCK, WOMMUCK,
WORMACH, WORMACK, WORMICK, WORMECK, WORMIK, WORNMACK,
WUMAC, WUMACK, WYOMACK

45 VARIATIONS IN THE US

Note: Checking on Wormeck, it is definitely German - all the names of the
parents - two sets are of German origin.. I also found one Womack, a female,
born in Brandenburg, Germany around the late 1890's. I have previously
found a Womack male born in or around Berlin, Germany, late 1890's also.


There are 39 variations in England alone!!

WAMUKE, WAYMACK, WEMOCK, WHOMAC, WHOMACK, WHOMIC, WHOMACH,
WIMICK, WIMOCK, WIMMOCK, WOMACH, WOMACK, WOMACKE, WOMAK,
WOMAKS, WOMICK, WOMAX, WOMEK, WOMECK, WOMOCK, WOMOCKE,
WOMOK, WOMUCK, WOMAKC, WOMVCK, WOMMACK, WOMMACKE, WOMMAKE,
WOMMOCK, WOMMOCKE, WOOMACH, WOOMACK, WOOMMACK, WOOMACKE, WOOMOCK,
WOOMMOCK , WOOMMAX, WOORMMOCK, WOYMMOCKE.

There are some duplications yes--both spellings used in both places..
But this is what you are up against when looking for the name in
documentation..

Hello all,

I have just discovered this wonderful site. I wish I had known it was here all along; it probably would have saved me hours of research ( although I must admit I truly enjoyed playing detective).

I was wondering if anyone could help prove or disprove the marriage of Abraham WOMACK to Sarah WORSHAM. They were married I believe around 1660. I seem to keep hitting road blocks with this one. I have seen posts in other areas showing either WORSHAM or a SUMMERALES as the wife of Abraham, but no one can provide documentation for either.

Fro what I have seen Abrahm married Sussanh Summerales in the mid to late 1680's therefore making it almost impossible for her to be the mother of his children. If he wasn't married to Sarah WORSHAM does anyone know who hi sfirst wife would have been? I apologize if this question has already been asked and ansewered. If it has been could someone steer me to the posting month and year?

Thank you in advance for any assistance:

Keith D. Pitner

pitner@iit.edu

Keith, the simple answer to your question is - no one knows who his wife was - everyone is guessing. The Sarah Sumerscales (whatever spelling) theory comes from a headright that he claimed in 1691 as part of a land patent. The thing is, you could claim those headrights years and years later, so there is no betting on when she actually came over. In the same land grant, he is connected with a John Worsham and an Edward Stratton. By 1692, he was being referred to as Abraham Womack Sr, so presumably at that point there was a younger one running around. As far as I know, and without dragging into my files, none of the references to him mention a wife's name or widow. I could be wrong about, there could be some deed that has his wife signing away a dower right, but off hand I can't think of one.

This is a great site and has inspired me to get back into Womack genealogy which I started 45+ years ago before it became a popular hobby. Before I married my late husband (Don Womack)I inquired into the nationality background, and the only answer I ever got from his father (Charles H.) was, "We're a cross between a skunk and a barb-wire fence." I try to avoid the skunks, but have been poking through many elusive barb-wires!

Thought some of the extended Womack family might enjoy the following letter, the original of which is in my file. This was addressed to William Womack at Panther Creek Post Office, Sangamond County, Illinois. AM copying it exactly as written, including misspellings. "September 20, 1839, Lynchburg, Virginia, Dear brother, I take the opportunity of informing you that I am well and I hope this will find you so too. I would be glad to see you but dont no when it will be. I wish you would come in and take the family out with you, for they are in a bad situation which I dislike to see very much and I supose you do too but cant help them yet. I am an apprintice to a trade but I think that you and James might take them out for they have no one to help them and try and come this fall. They are all well at present as common. I should like to no what harness makers bisness is like out there in your country. Perhaps I may want to come out there in the course of time. Larkin and John is both got religion. Joined the radical church here in Lynchburg. I believe nothing more at present but answer soon. Yours respectfully, Leroy Womack

Please,WGN.I don't get WMWB,So could get KidsWB,because I want it, because I need it,because I like it!!"" I'd 'presiate it

Sent by a friend of mine in Arkansas -

Out-of-state
JASPER, Ala. -- Gracie Gertrude Womack, 91, of Jasper, Ala., formerly of
Mena, died Monday, August 13, in Alabama. Graveside services will be 10 a.m.
Thursday, August 16, in the Pinecrest Memorial Park with Bro. David McCord
officiating. Visitation will be Wednesday, 6 to 8 p.m. Arrangements by
Beasley-Wood Funeral Home of Mena.(AR)

Will be outta town this weekend, rather till monday afternoon (Las Vegas);
But if you need to e mail go ahead---viva viva lost wages!!!

Nelda, thank you for posting that letter. I find old letters like that so interesting. I wish I had a few from my family!

Welcome to the WGN!
-Mark

Sorting out 45+ years of old Womack records, I find the following Viginia marriages from the records of Dorothy Ford Wulfeck of Naugatuck, Connecticut:
Byrd Womack, m. 15 Sept. 1800 in Pittsylvania County to Rebecca Haskins. Byrd died in 1823. Peter Womack, m. 29 Nov. 1786 in Culpepper County to Crissey Utterback. Marriage ceremony performed by Baptist minister, Rev. John Pickett.
William Wpomack, m. 28 Oct. 1797 in Bedford County to Rachel Gilpin. William, m. 5 June 1746, in Brunswick County to Juliana Harris, widow of Francis. (Order Book III, p. 37. William, Jr. Mr. Jane (Kyle) Poague from Prince Edward County. No date given. Sarah Womax, m. Richard Brown - no place or date given.

Wednesday, August 22, 2001 at 12:39:39 (PDT)
william cordell
c61357@yahoo.com

thru my goforth line I also go back to the plantagenets

I am looking for information about Jean Womack Collier Clemmons. My grandfather was Charles Edward Womack from Winchester, TN. Jean would be his niece. Robert Womack was Jean's Father.

Margena

an amzing method for loosing weight at

http://arv.hypermart.net/diet.htm

it worked for me!
ron
ron@yahoo.com

I hope y'all all have an antivirus running on yer e mail - had that worm
w32sircam try to get me 11 times since Tuesday - Norton caught it---if you
get mail from a rotoolmn with document as subject - or a crumpton with
John McElroy 21 something - delete immediately - do not open the attachment or you're done for!! no offense to the real Crumpton we know --

Does anyone know the parents of Rachel Womack who was born in
Gloucester Co.VA in 1717 and married William Tabor in Goochland,VA
in 1733? This is the second Womack daughter I have researched and
hope her name will ring a bell with someone out there!
Ann

Hi. I am trying to find information on my great grandmother, Lucy Eddith Wammack. She was born on 5/19/1905 and died in 1964 in a Phoenix nursing home. She was married to Alford Melton, born 7/13/1900 (although I hve seen it listed as 1901). I can't seem to find anything about her at all. Does anyone have any links to this branch of the family?

Thanks.
Teresa

I am trying to establish information regarding a Jane Womack,born Jan 10,1871. She was the daughter of David Daniel Womack, and Mary (Polly) Hayes. She married William (Willie) Kilgore and they resided in Falls County, Texas. She is buried in Calvary Cemetery, Marlin,Texas. I cannot find out anything to prove what family she is from, etc. She is my children's g-grandmother. Hope to hear from someone regarding this. Thank you in advance. Peggy Bozeman

Peggy
I forwarded to your post to a distant Kilgore Cuz in TX - we connect thru
another line - but he may have something - so I sent him your post along with your e mail addy and asked him if he had anything.

Hello folks. I've been out of touch most of the summer. My brother is dying of cancer and I have been in Tucson most of the time. He is in home hospice now and afer a quick trip back east to move from summer to winter house I am going back to AZ in two days. This is just to say that I am going to do that article on the early guys when this is over. I have a trip to UK scheduled end September, if events allow, including Norfolk. Tell me what to do. David.

Trying to contact tjoyner@stephens.com. Saw old posting and we are researching same Womack line. Please email if you are still out there.

Nancy in CA
nbeinhor@kings.k12.c.us

David,
Sorry to hear about your brother -
If you do get to the UK, perhaps a little look at that will of the Henry
you mentioned before, from abt 1627/8 that had a son William might be
profitable??

I am having a very hard time trying to find my family tree.I am looking for Abigail Mayo Tuten{father-William Washington Tuten,mother-Gertrude Sweat} She married{ran off with, she was 11 years old} a Willie Cinclair Smith.they had a house full of kids. When he died she married Daniel Webester Tanner{my grand father}they had kids.Looking for marrage recordes for Abbie&Daniel,Would like to know if any Cherokee blood run on her mother's side.I cant find anything .I'ts like they never were. you can e-mail me at gpalmer61@hotmail.com Thank You,Gloria

Gloria, you probably never will find them.

Tuesday, August 28, 2001 at 15:48:21 (PDT)
Roger Womack
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

OOPS!! didn't finish. Try Tuten and Tanner message boards. Unless they are related to Womack's this is probably not the best place to post. You might also want to post approximate dates, places etc., so someone might get an idea where to start looking.

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