December 2000 Message Archive
Friday, December 01, 2000 at 15:24:09 (PST)
Tony Dell

To David and Jan,
Thank you for the reply to my query. Sounds as if there were some sensible fellows keeping their heads down, when you consider that even being king was no gaurantee of safety.
Best of luck
Tony Dell


Friday, December 01, 2000 at 18:17:45 (PST)
Dave Maher

To all those Americans trying to claim Rev Laurence Womack as an Ancestor.
It may be difficult as Our line went to Australia and New Zealand.
From the 11 Great Grandson of Laurence
Dave in Sunny Australia


Friday, December 01, 2000 at 19:27:53 (PST)

Which Lawerence, the father of Bishop?? We kinda realize that bottomed out
with the bishop - but didnt the bishop have brothers, his father have brothers and all have progeny?? Those are the ones we are looking at, etc mebbe we tie in with them - if you have information that would open a lil window or whatever, led on MacDuff!!

Friday, December 01, 2000 at 19:35:30 (PST)

reference your earlier post of only a family or two in Yorkshire; and Jan's post that there were a number of them - this is getting confusing -

And yes the Summer/Somerscales or whatever they chose to answer to were in Yorkshire..


Saturday, December 02, 2000 at 07:42:43 (PST)
Roger Womack

October messages have been moved to the archives.

Saturday, December 02, 2000 at 20:23:26 (PST)
Dave Maher

Hi Sam,
I will give you a rough down load of my family.Each Generation from
Rev Laurence Womack
John Womack
Robert Womack
Edmund Womack
Edmund Womack
Robert Womack
Robert Womack
John Womack
John Womack
Walter Womack
Anna Jane Womack
Amelia Ludkin
Mercia Hart
David Maher
Ronald Maher
Shaun Maher.
If you would like dates and spouses let me know.
There are a few messages on religion,I don't know of any of the early Womacks being Catholics, the first I have found is early 1900.
All through the generations they have been in Religious Orders.
Early 1800 in Norfolk were Primitive Methodist,and several were ministers.
I have some early photos of the areas they were in(if I can find them)
Dave Maher

Sunday, December 03, 2000 at 12:09:59 (PST)

I meant David Dunn,
But, appreciate your input also - anything you may want to share here with all of us is a welcome addition.. Thanks


Thursday, December 07, 2000 at 08:00:42 (PST)
Roger Womack

Our Researchers list is updated. We now have over 550 researchers. If you find a link that does not work, let us know!!


Thursday, December 07, 2000 at 23:38:26 (PST)
Mark Womack

I would just like to add that if you submitted your information to be listed in the WGN Researchers, please check your listing to verify that we got your information correct. If you have any additions or corrections, please email You can use the link above to jump to the researchers page.

This update includes many hundreds of additions, so if you are looking for fellow researchers in areas where your ancestors lived, we recommend you check the listings and contact any new researchers you might find. After all, that's what the listings are all about.



Saturday, December 09, 2000 at 22:45:29 (PST)

Thought this was interesting -
Database: Revolutionary War Courts-Martial
Combined Matches: 1
Wright, John Womack, Col. Some Notes on the Continental Army.
Cornwallville, New York: Hope Farm Press, 1963.
(Library of Congress: E255 .W7)


Wednesday, December 13, 2000 at 19:23:14 (PST)
David Dunn

Sam and Jan and everybody. Been away for two weeks. Yes indeed, the Summerscales folk were in Yorkshire. Jan, can you give us details about the other 1600's Womacks in Yorkshire other than the Wragby family I detailed?


Wednesday, December 13, 2000 at 20:16:36 (PST)
Eleanor Edmondson

Seeking descendants of ALEXANDER WOMACK who died in Campbell Co. VA leaving a Will in 1784. I assume that he had been a resident of Bedford Co. before the line change in 1782. Therefore, the majority of his land purchases should be located in Bedford as well as other records of importance.

Would also be interested in identifying his parents and siblings as well as his wife.

Will exchange info.on sons who went to Bedford Co.TN ca the early 1800's and later to Pike ca 1850's & 1860's and Scott Cos. AR in 1860. Then into TX in the 1880's and 1890's. Michael, Hawkinks, David, Charles, Alexander.


Thursday, December 14, 2000 at 04:28:59 (PST)

If this is the Alexander I think it is, his name was James Alexander Womack Sr,
Wife Martha (some say her last name was Alexander, not sure yet).

Father Richard Womack Jr - Mother Elizabeth Ann Puckett
Sibling known Richard Jr - purported Thomas

Grandparents - Richard Sr and Mary Puckett Womack

Childdren, Jane, Martha, Matthew, Alexander Jr, Ann, Elizabeth, Jean,
Judith, Richard, David

David was the father of your Michael and Hawkins.
E Mail me if you need more.


Saturday, December 16, 2000 at 09:19:28 (PST)
Laura Womack McDonald

Seeking information on siblings or children of T. Willie Womack. He was from Chattanooga TN., and stationed at the Army base in Bryan, Tx. He was killed in an automobile accident in late 1956. He is thought to have a brother named Bobby. Any information would be greatly appreciated.


Saturday, December 16, 2000 at 12:27:53 (PST)
Daniel Glenn Womack

I am looking for ANY information regarding Woamcks that originated in Yorkshire county, UK (I think possibly near Sheffield). My Grandfather was Wilfred Womack (married to Melinda Hague - Womack). My father was Leonard Womack (born in 12/1913 / 1 brother, 2 sisters (Ken, Nora and Mary). My father came across to Canada around 1929 or so, and settled in Ontario. This is about the extent of my knowledge on the family and I am very interested in learning more.
Any help would be appreciated. Please email me through my son-in-law's address.


Saturday, December 16, 2000 at 16:12:54 (PST)
Rebecca Haden

I'm a descendant of Richard Wommack of VA, then TN, then Lincoln County, MO. His parents were Catherine Streetman and Richard Wommack. I have a lot of info about his life and times, but no kin before his grandfather, and am reliably told that there are no records to suggest who his grandparents were. However, I noticed (while looking up Motleys) that Abraham Womack, son of William the Immigrant, married a lady whose family used the name Permelia. Richard had a daughter Parma Lee and the name has shown up a few more times, with various spellings. Abraham had a son Richard, as well. So I'm emboldened to try again to see whether anyone knows of any connection between the Lincoln County Wommacks and the Virginia family. Thanks!


Saturday, December 16, 2000 at 17:18:10 (PST)
Nelson Womack

I hope someone finds the following information useful.

The Military Annals of Tennessee Confederate. First Series: Embracing a Review of Military Operations with Regimental Histories and Memorial Rolls.
Regimental Histories and Memorial Rolls.
Seventh Tennessee Infantry

Womack, John R., k. at Seven Pines.

The Military Annals of Tennessee Confederate. First Series: Embracing a Review of Military Operations with Regimental Histories and Memorial Rolls.
Regimental Histories and Memorial Rolls.
Sixteenth Tennessee Infantry

Womack, W. M., d. Oct., 20, 1861.
Captain, J. J. Womack.
Womack, Elias, k. at Murfreesboro.
Womack, C. W., d. March 20, 1863.

Regimental Histories and Memorial Rolls.
Twenty-fifth Tennessee Infantry

Womack, Willis, k. at Murfreesboro.
Regimental Histories and Memorial Rolls.
Thirty-fifth Tennessee Infantry

"In Capt. Towles's company (D), commanded by Lieut. B. H. Womack, privates J. D. Smith, Douglass Brien, and J. T. Pennington are mentioned as having distinguished themselves by their bravery and daring.
Regimental Histories and Memorial Rolls.
Thirty-eighth Tennessee Infantry

Womack, W. J., k. in battle.

Saturday, December 16, 2000 at 19:37:40 (PST)
David Dunn

For Dave Maher. Following up on Sam's enquiries, I gather from looking at your postings that your earlest Lawrence is the Lawrence died 1656 Rector of South Lopham. Your next generation is John Womack son of the aforesaid Lawrence baptised 1616 and brother of Bishop Lawrence. Your next generation is Robert son of aforesaid John, married Margaret Fisher 1668 at Fersfield. Is that correct? Who went to Australia? The Lawrence d. 1656, his six brothers and their sons all are candidates for the title of Father to the Immigrant to America or in the case of the sons for the title of Immigrant Himself; the point being that none of the people we can see in pedigrees by name is known to have emigrated.


Sunday, December 17, 2000 at 18:56:57 (PST)
Alva Gregory
Link for Womack familiies in and around Smith Co. Tn.


Sunday, December 17, 2000 at 20:16:22 (PST)
oscar c womack

I am looking for info. or family members of otis arthur womack b. abt. 1910 in rome, ga. son of andrew paul, and minnie lee womack. otis was a ships captain in the merchant marine during ww2, after the war he moved to san pedro, cal. for many years he remained out of touch with his family from ga. for no apparent reason.he is believed to have died recently, perhaps in 1950 otis was known to be married and to have a step daughter, while living in san pedro. however their names are unknown,all his immediate family from ga. have passed on,iam his nephew. any info concerning otis would be appreciated.


Monday, December 18, 2000 at 18:27:09 (PST)

Genealogical research is much like eating peanuts: the more you consume,
the more you want. Similarly, it is often said of any learning: "the more
you learn, the less you know."In the case of exhuming the past, the desire
to know "who I am and where did I come from" approaches obsession. Most
researchers find this to be truer than true!

Be that as it may, it is a thrill to search for and find descendants of one's
clan. It should be stated that margins of error exist in conducting such a human study. A comfortable percentage of the material collected is documentable with family ties based on recorded facts.

But -- there are times when a logical deduction of a relationship is the only means available to continue. This is where that information handed down from generation to generation, by word of mouth, comes into play; as well as that 16 year old on the 1850 census living with his father and mother. Then on the 1860 there appears a 26 year old of the same name, with a family right next to the older person of the 1850 census.

Logic dictates that these people are related, are of the same family, and that we have a father and son living next to one another.

Tuesday, December 19, 2000 at 07:11:15 (PST)
Emmett Womack Hines Jr

I am the great grandson of Emmett Womack who served in the army of the Confederate States of America and who later was a director of the Pension Fund in Washington (purpose being to give pensions to Veterans of the Union side but not to Emmett's Confederate comrads at arms. Nelle Womack Hines was his daughter.

Anyone wanting more information, please email me at Anyone with advice on how I might learn more about Emmett Womack or my family, please let me know.


Tuesday, December 19, 2000 at 10:50:03 (PST)
David W. Womack

I am the great, great, great grandson of a Francis Green Womack from Fayette County, IL; My fahter's name is George Wesley, his father is Everett, and his father is William (son of Francis) who was married to Sara Shives. This is as far back as we have been able to go. Does anyone have hany info on Francis, who he desenced from, where he came to Illinois from (we were told Warren County, Kentucky)?

Any info would be appreciated.

Tuesday, December 19, 2000 at 12:28:47 (PST)
Mark Womack

Sam, your lucid comments about the deduction of relationships from various sources, such as the census you mention, are great. I would have to agree with your analysis of the data (not knowing all of the data), particularly for that time period. The only thing I would add, is that your conclusion and the evidence used to reach it, should be summarized in whatever document you (or anyone else) create for that family line. It will make it that much more clear for those researchers that come after you to understand exactly what evidence is being used to reach which conclusions.

It is that kind of information I wish we had from some of the earlier Womack researchers from the 50's. Why did they conclude the existance of William Womack and his wife Mary Jane Allen? Everyone has been doing various things to dig up evidence to support what has been said, which is good, don't get me wrong. But imagine all of the time we could have saved if Oscar Womack or William Perry Johnson had simply published the evidence they collected and conclusions they reached. We could still argue/discuss it, but there would be a much better grounding and understanding from which to work from.

So, to anyone out there that wants to listen: document and explain as much of you research as you can. Detail your evidence, detail your conclusions, and if you have the stomach, detail the weaknesses (and strengths) of your research. That last part can be hard. I can't tell you how many times I have felt like chucking the entire search for my family branch because I felt the evidence was superficial. But you have to be willing to face up to this stuff, otherwise you don't push yourself to find the sources you need to make the strongest connections.



Tuesday, December 19, 2000 at 12:32:15 (PST)
Mark Womack

To David Dunn and others that have been participating in the ongoing push to make the Womack connection across the pond...would someone be willing to write an article for the WGN detailing all of the research etc? I would really like to see this stuff captured for other researchers to find and read.



Wednesday, December 20, 2000 at 05:59:57 (PST)

I think that David Dunn is the best candidate for an article on the "over the pond" research - perhaps in collaboration with Jan who certainly has made some
great contributions.


Wednesday, December 20, 2000 at 17:05:07 (PST)
David Dunn

Mark and Sam and everybody. Sam, it is kind of you to propose that I write the article Mark suggested. I'm honored you thought of me, and to be honest, I'd like to try. But I'd like to make some comments first. Most important if I do write something I'd like a lot of editing help and contributions from others before the piece goes on the WGN. I'm thinking getting inputs from Jan certainly but also you two, Roger, Ann and others. I think the piece needs to review what we really know about the earliest Womacks on these shores as well as what we know about Womacks of the appropriate era in Great Britain. And I would want to summarize what we know isn't true, and what is legendary and probably not true or at least not supported by fact. The article should be scholarly, that is with footnotes identifying sources etc. I'd have to have it typed up and sent to Roger or Mark to be scanned onto the site. Now then, I'd welcome comments on these comments but on the WGN please so all can see; and for information I'm not going to be in touch for 8-10 days as I'm off to Sam's part of the world (Tucson to be exact) to see my brother and sister-in-law (who got me into this genealogy stuff in the first place).


Wednesday, December 20, 2000 at 18:45:10 (PST)

Since you have time to go places; and mebbe we dont--that is why you were thought of--LOL< Really since you got those films and did yer thang with them,
you go a bit more up front than the rest of us do - we can assist, yes, but you need to drive the wagon so to speak......


Wednesday, December 20, 2000 at 18:52:16 (PST)

Forgot to say that I posted two pages about Womacks in Australia and Canada today--It seems we kinda neglect our Northern and S Pacific kinfolk at times -
and other places also - I have found them in Denmark, Germany, Spain, Italy,
England---I know there are some in Mexico but havent found a listing for them yet - there may be others I havent found yet also--but will sooner or later!

Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 11:27:50 (PST)
Bob Moore

Morning. Recently in research at the local FHC, I found the following marriages for Womacks in Essex, England. 1633 Womack, Rob & ...Robgent; 1638 Womack, Rob & ...Foster; 1683 Womack, William & Mary Smith; 1692 Womack, George & Mary Dillow. I found this on an old microfilm which is on permanent loan to this FHC. It said the original was on file in London, England. No other info was included.


Friday, December 22, 2000 at 13:00:15 (PST)
F. K. Crump

Looking for the parents of my gg grandfather, Charles Womack, born @1787. He married Casandry Benton 31 Jan 1815 in Jones County, Ga. They had the following children, Lucinda, Nancy, Amanda, Caroline, Martha, Charles and Elizabeth.
Lucinda Womack married David M.Phillips 18 Aug.1840 Monroe County, Ga. David and Lucinda raised a large family and died here in Claiborne Parish, La. Can anyone help me wiht Charles Womack's parents and siblings?
Thank you for this consideration
F. K. Crump


Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 11:31:21 (PST)

Merry Christmas everyone,
Just to let you know I haven't dropped off the planet! Been in London. Back now but it's much too do ....and it's going to snow tonight,
Any way when things return to normal I will answer everybodys questions and give what help I can. LOL xx jan

Monday, December 25, 2000 at 08:02:15 (PST)
Roger Womack

"Merry Christmas" and "Happy New Year" I hope all of you (Y'all) have a safe Holiday season, best wishes, Roger

Monday, December 25, 2000 at 12:01:44 (PST)
Mark Womack

I would like to wish everyone a Happy Holidays! I am looking forward to the New Year with everyone here!

Take care,


Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 16:21:55 (PST)
Stephanie Chesshire

all i know is that my last name is chesshire, but it originated from chesshir. thanx :-D


Friday, December 29, 2000 at 17:23:49 (PST)

Hmmm at least I can be the first to say:



Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 06:54:41 (PST)
Clydene Gage

I am searching for any info on my gggranfather, Edmund Womack of VA. He moved to to Hays Co., TX I believe around 1860. His father maybe Daniel Womack of VA. Edmund first married Sarah F. Smith. And second married Virgina B. Hawkins. My grandfather was Walter Daniel Womack married to Lalah Daily. They lived mostly in Travis Co., Austin, TX. Walter Daniel Womack died in 1966. And my grandmother died in 1972. Both in Austin, TX. Any info would be appreciated.


Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 10:58:54 (PST)
Rhoni La Rue

In response to Lavondas messages nov. 4th and 16. I regret now not finding the time to read these pages. I am looking for info on my ggrandparents and grandfather. My ggrandparents are also Clyde and Clara Womack of Kerman, Ca. I am so excited to have possibly found a connection. Actually there were 11 boys in that Family. I only have 7 of the names which are. Raymond (my grandfather, born 9-2-36),Bob,Gene,Cecil,Kenneth,Jimmy,Jack. My grandmother and Raymond were about 16 or 17 when they married and had my dad. If anyone has any more info please contact me. Raymonds name however is on Rogers list of Womacks.


Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 15:46:27 (PST)
Peggy Hunt Nader

I would like to know about Abraham Womack married Judith Minter, and had Elizabeth that first married a Bass and 2nd married William Hunt, they had Thomas Hunt married Sara T. Pope. I would be grateful for knowledge on this Womack. Thanks, William's father Judkins Hunt was RWS. Peg


Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 16:16:08 (PST)
Jack Womack

Am trying to find a source of a Published diary about the Civil War by Captain J J Womack with information on the history of the Company E 16th. Tennesse Infantry ,formed in Warren co. TN. in 1961, I have several brothers of my G GF who along with him died in the CW. Have a testament from the brother of my GGF Solomon Womack also have the correct dates and place of Elias Womack death. Am doing research about Womacks from Warren co. who fought in CW If anyone has info to contribute, please do. I have found little about the history of the 16th. Reg. Jackl


Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 19:01:37 (PST)
Roger Womack

Rhoni, I don't know if this is your Clyde, might be a good place to start.

1. Clyde Alonza10 Womack (Asa Lorenzo9, Alexander Selkirk8, Green7, William6, Thomas5, Abraham4, Abraham3, John2, William1) was born October 06, 1882 in Emmettville, Idaho, and died September 26, 1943. He married Clara Card November 19, 1922.

Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 20:33:12 (PST)
shelia kemp

looking for any information on fellie kemp.he was my grandfather.the only
things i know about him is that he was born march 15 1901 ,that he was an
indian,he married my grandmother sallie harding they resided in edgefield sc
they had one son fellie kemp jr.all the above are deceased.
i would be thankful for any information


Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 11:27:19 (PST)
Steve Womack

Jack-There is a copy of the John J Womack diary at the Nashville Tennessee Library Archives room. I have read from it several times. They will not check the book out but it is available for reviewing in that room.


Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 11:49:15 (PST)
Ann McDonald

Sheila, if you know where or when your grandfather died, chances are you can get his death certificate. If you are lucky, it'll show who his parents were. Alternatively, you can look him up in the census starting in 1920, and work back. If you have an idea of which tribe he may have belonged to (and I looked up the Eastern Cherokee, as I have the index handy, he isn't listed there) you can also check their rolls.


Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 14:04:47 (PST)

My grandfarther was James Thomas Muir Womack born- 5 June 1889 Pontifract Yorkshire England Marr- 20 Oct 1919 London England(to Alice Doris Martyn) Died- 18 June 1972 Croydon Surrey England.

Son of Frederick William Womack Brn-17 Jan 1858 Pontifract Yorkshire England Marr- 14 June 1887 Cretleford Yorkshire England (Ann Muir)Died- Abt 1903

The last piece of info I have is about my great great grandfarther who was

William Walshaw Womack christened- 17 Jan 1817 Pontifract Yorkshire England
Marr- (Mary Prior) Died before 1887

If anyone is able to help me extend this line or would like any other info please contact Martin Parkins e-mail


Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 20:09:11 (PST)



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