April 2000 Message Archive

Saturday, April 01, 2000 at 04:45:57 (PST)
Ernest L. Womack

I have in my file a Green B. Womack who is the brother of my Great Grandfather, Newton Womack. (B.1835; d 2/28/1916.) Green B. Womack d 10/15/1920 in Anna, Union County, Illinois. He was in a mental hospital. His death cert. shows his age to be 83 but, his obit lists his as 88. Nether show his wife or parents. The obit lists a son Robert of Cambridge, Ohio, two daughters Mrs. Harry House and Mrs Coe Melvin both of DuQuoin, IL. He was buried in the Odd Fellows Cemetery in DuQuoin, IL. without a stone.

Any info on either Newton Womack or his brother Green Womack would appreciated.

Saturday, April 01, 2000 at 14:59:17 (PST)
Roger Womack

Hey, you have to check out this site! This site offer a free FBI / public records service check to everyone! Check it out at: http://www.thecenter2000.com/access_public_records.htm

Saturday, April 01, 2000 at 18:23:30 (PST)

Roger that friggin URL is a joke!

Saturday, April 01, 2000 at 19:02:50 (PST)
Alva Gregory

April Fools Sam! Made me look to.

Saturday, April 01, 2000 at 19:08:06 (PST)
Roger Womack

What can I say, its April 1, had to try and get someone, just didn't expect it to be you Sam.

Sunday, April 02, 2000 at 08:30:58 (PDT)


Sunday, April 02, 2000 at 08:44:38 (PDT)
diana elledge

I am searching for information on SARAH/SARA/SYRIA WOMACK b. ca. 1850 Randolph Co. Ar. married to JOHN C. WISNER ca.1870 I sure could use her parents names and any other information on hersuch as birth date death date siblings names thanks in advance Diana Jury Elledge

Sunday, April 02, 2000 at 10:34:59 (PDT)

You wait, Alva and I will get you yet!!!
By anyone try the free ISP thru Excite?? Works fine, and they got 6 numbers here in the Phoenix area: and again Roger, they got two in your city!!

Monday, April 03, 2000 at 06:10:52 (PDT)
Ivan Bauknight

Our group of Navy Veterans is searching for Bob and "Itty Bit" Womack (twins)that served at Astoria, OR in 1946/47 with us. We think their given names were Robert and Roland, but are not sure. They were from Flagstaff, AZ at that time, but a thorough search of that area was negative. They should be 72 years old at this point. ANY assistance will be appreciated.

Monday, April 03, 2000 at 10:16:50 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Ivan, you might contact Jeff Womack, (below) this could be the Womacks you are looking for.

Thomas Roy Womack son of (Oliver Cromwell 9, Andrew Jackson8, Charles Wiley7, Michael6, David5, Alexander4, Richard3, Richard2, William1) was born September 05, 1891 in Flatcreek, Tennessee, and died July 07, 1964 in Presott, Arizona. He married Ollie Jane Norman Abt. 1915. She was born October 17, 1898 in Perry, Payne Co., Oklahoma, and died February 11, 1978 in Reding, California.

Notes for Thomas Roy Womack:
Source: Jeff Womack e-mail : wbears@home.com

Children of Thomas Womack and Ollie Norman are:
i. Thomas William Womack,
ii. Jeanetta Caroline Womack,
iii. Robert Edward Womack,
iv. Roland Everett Womack,
v. Daisy Marie Womack,

Monday, April 03, 2000 at 16:30:34 (PDT)
Pam Pugh

I would like to ask if anyone knows about the James Knowles listed as Nancy Crim's husband. I'm from the knowles line and my ancestor is James Knowles, who's wife is Nancy ?. They had a son John Knowles born 10/1779. If anyone knows of this connection please contact me at pkpugh@aol.com

Monday, April 03, 2000 at 20:06:25 (PDT)

Dedicated to: "those of us who search the dust for ashes of those gone by, may we always find a trail in the sand that leads to a secluded haven our ancestors found and revere." (By Sam--April 3, 2000)...
and yes that is (c)..

Wednesday, April 05, 2000 at 16:37:25 (PDT)

Didnt mean to scare anyone off with that last lil ditty!!

Wednesday, April 05, 2000 at 17:53:19 (PDT)
Roger Womack

There you go Sam, offending folks with verse now. Actually, I liked it.

Ivan's message dated April 3, looking for Bob and "Itty Bit" Womack, for their Navy reunion. It was the Robert and Roland, son of Thomas Roy Womack. Robert has passed away, Roland is still living. This is the Michael Womack b 1794 sp Sarah Jones line. WGN is still making connections and finding folks so keep on posting.

Wednesday, April 05, 2000 at 19:11:41 (PDT)
Dorothy Womack

We know a Womack that is looking for his ancestors. Really doesn't know much about them. His name is Kenneth Ray Womack. His ggrandfather was John Edward Womack; his grandfather was Johnny Ray Womack who had a brother named Lonnie and sister named Elsie. His dad was Donald Ray Womack. Kenneth says that the family lived in Hebert in 1927 and then later in Columbia, LA. He would appreciate any info anyone can supply.

Kenneth lives in Benton, LA. Any info can be forwarded to me. Thanks for the help.

Hi Roger. William D. Womack has been diagnosed with multiple myeloma (cancer of
the bone). He has had so much in the last five years. He is doing oral chemo as the refraction rate on his heart will not allow him to take it IV. He is battling it and seems to be holding his own for now. Keeps me busy so I don't have a lot of time to work on the computer. Have some info on John Womack family that we got at their reunion in Bastrop last Sept. Plan to get it off to you as soon as I can. Just been a frantic, busy time. Dottie

Wednesday, April 05, 2000 at 20:34:55 (PDT)
Doris Womack Cox


I don't know you or William D. Womack or what relation he is to you, but my heart goes out to you and to Mr. Womack. I will keep you'll in my prayers. My father had cancer of the lymph nodes and took chemo. I understand how much strengh it takes for the patient to fight and how much strength it takes to support your loved one during that fight. May God be with you.
Sincerely, doris

Thursday, April 06, 2000 at 08:27:10 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Dotty, I'm certainly in agreement with Doris on the prayers. Give William our best. I'm looking for Kenneth Ray Womack's ancestors, no luck yet, if he could get some approx dates on his GF and GGF, it may help us.

Friday, April 07, 2000 at 07:58:29 (PDT)
Dottie Womack

William Dolton Womack is my husband 0f 48 years come December. He is a retired Navy Chief Firecontrol Technician. Also retired from the private sector. We were Navy folks and moving all over while our children were young. He got the opportunity to come back to his home state after he retired from the Navy so we had children in high school here and helped them through college. We have had rough times but a whole lot of good times too. Really appreciate your prayers Doris. I have him on prayer lists all over the country. He has had many medical problems, surgeries, etc. for the last five years.

Friday, April 07, 2000 at 13:50:45 (PDT)

You may recall that Sam bullied me into delving into the record offices over here.
Well, I got my place at the Yorkshire Archaeological Society today and, braving the grumpy old fossils they call archivists, I spent the morning searching through the poll tax returns of 1379 from the reign of Richard II.

I read the name of every adult in Yorkshire at that time.

It was fascinating because it was at the time when surnames were just coming into vogue. Thus:-

1. There were the obvious Norman names:- French sounding and with a "de". "de wynter" , "de warrene".

2. Many had place names as surnames, mostly such as "Bradford", "London", "Ackworth", "Wales & de Wales". Many were very localised eg someone would be called Willm Pontefract just 6 miles from Pontefract.

3. Descriptive names, "gossyp" (!!), "crypples", "whyte akers", "stone", "croft", "garlik"

4. The majority of people were simply described as "robertus filius ejus" or Margareta serviens dicte Isabelle". Fiona (my daughter) tells me that this means Robert's son & Isabelle's servant, Margaret. Presumably Robert's son would have a Christian name and so by the end of 1300's would have been known as "Richardus" Robertson etc.

5. There were only a few "odd" names. One was Wyghman which I presume is Wyman (as in Bill), perhaps either from white man or Wymer (anglo-saxon Christian name).

The other was altogether more interesting it was "WOMBOK". I think this is it! The "b" in womb is silent, so if you pronounce Wombok, not as in womble but as in womb it comes out as woomock --- doesn't it?

Johannes Wombok & Emma, iiijd. Villata de Barmby Super Done.

(I don't know what iiijd means, before anyone asks.)

In the whole of Yorkshire in 1379 this was the only name that came anywhere near Womack. The village mentioned is now called Barnby Dunn, it is near Hatfield (where my earliest Womack was found about 1500), near to Doncaster, South Yorks. It is on the road from East Anglia to York, now the "A1", previously the Great North Road.


Friday, April 07, 2000 at 19:07:42 (PDT)

Jan Milady!!
Such a quote "You may recall that Sam bullied me into delving into the record offices over here."
Milady, that sorely aches me heart! I was just appealing to your kind and generous nature, knowing you were such a sweet person. I hoped you could not resist the urge to delve further in to the ancient mysteries of the clan--and
find a small morsel or tidbit to present in some kind fashion to your cousins in the far and distant colonies. I am crushed!!

Saturday, April 08, 2000 at 19:52:51 (PDT)
Alva Gregory

Mary Womack born Mcminn Co Tn.9-19-1853 Died Lenior City Tn. 7-24-1938 Buried Decatur Cemetery Meigs Co Tn.
Married William Tapley Gregory 12-4-1874 Marriage date recorded in Gregory family bible {currently held by JoAnn Sligar Herley}
Childern {ones I know of could be more]
Annie 12-9-1875 Only date you can read on stone
Kelly married James Kincaid
? married J. E. Ward
? married Harvey Moon
Jim 3-26-1880 6-12-1935 married Ethel Finley 4-1-1897 7-3-1946
Joe 7-11-1892 4-13-1919 married Millerd Moon 12-13-1893 1-4-1950
While I can trace the sons lines on to present. Would love to know Where did the girls go? Aunt Kelly had ten childern. Three are living but are not talking.
Any grand childern out there? If there is help me record this line. A few more years and a lot of the stories will be forgotten.
GGrandma Mary use to sit on the front porch, rock and watch the sunset. One hundred years later I do the same. A May sunset on the Womack- Gregory farm can't be beat!

Monday, April 10, 2000 at 14:58:11 (PDT)
Pat Wommack Jones

Who is searching the William Womack line that John Womack settled in
the 1760's or 1770's in Chatham Co. NC that Womack Genealogy by Oscar
Womack talks about on page 69, Vol III, No. 1. June 1959.
This John Womack Elenor Rorie, d of John Rorie of Halifax CO. NC.,
After her death, John takes a common law wife by the name of

Monday, April 10, 2000 at 19:58:06 (PDT)
shelley oppenlander

I am a newbie here. I am in search of information about my grandmothers side. Her name is Georgia Amelia Womack. Her parents names are Abraham Felter Womack & Amelia Jane Hill Womack. Georgia was born in Catahoula Parish, Louisiana. I have absolutly no other info on her parents. It seems as though she (Georgia) had a sister named Lilly. It is thought that Georgia had been married befor, but that isn't the side I'm trying to trace. Any Womack help appreciated. Great site.

Monday, April 10, 2000 at 21:39:36 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Shelley, I have Abraham Felter Womack as the son of Stephen G. Womack, son of Jacob Green Womack, son of David Womack sp. Mildred Pryor. Lots of folks working this line. Glad to have you onboard with us at WGN.

Monday, April 10, 2000 at 22:41:48 (PDT)
Lois Payne Hoover

Earlier this evening I sent an e-mail query requesting information on the marriage of Elizabeth Womack to Robert C. T. Gill. Being new at the internet I then tried to read the back newsletters and found the entry which was contained in a document submitted in 1960 and written by F. M. Womack who was born 26 May 1833, if I understood it correctly. This entry was in Vol 4:1. Do you know if the original of this family history is still in existance? Perhaps it has been copied by LDS. I would appreciate hearing about this. Robert Gill and Elizabeth Womack were the parents of Mary Isabella Gill who married in Jackson Co., Alabama 24 Oct 1872, David Walker Joyner and ancestors of my son-in-law James Walter Joyner. This is the first website I've tried and find it exciting to see so many wills and land records entered as well as family histories. Many thanks to the operators.

Tuesday, April 11, 2000 at 05:38:44 (PDT)

Go to the WGN home page, click in on Source Articles, then
on Womack Genealogy Newsletter - there is amongst those
volums you will find FM Womack's sketch--

Tuesday, April 11, 2000 at 15:34:58 (PDT)
Dianna Nading

I am stumped re: NANCY Womack (19 April 1823--26 Sep 1913) wife of Malachi/Malciah Trafton. She was suppossedly born in MS and is buried in Gonzales County, Texas. She married 23 Feb 1841 at Copiah Co., MS. Whose child was she? Is the Thomas Womack living in her household in the 1850 census of Copiah County, MS AND 1850 census of Fayette County, Texas her brother? (The Tx census spells the name "Tafton".)
Direct replies would be appreciated---we're traveling. Thanks, Di

Tuesday, April 11, 2000 at 16:09:53 (PDT)
PAMELA mcquaid

Looking for wife or children of Donald Warmack who lived in Little Rock ,Arkansas and was music director at UALR >whom purchased property from Adriel Dale Martin whom was my father. I need his wife or children to sign a chain of title on a parcel of land so I can pay the taxes.

Tuesday, April 11, 2000 at 19:27:07 (PDT)
Lois Payne Hoover


Thanks for the information re the article of F. M. Womack written in 1905. Do you know if this manuscript still exists? I like to use DAR standards for documentation and a copy of the original would be nice to have now that we have such good copy machines.


Tuesday, April 11, 2000 at 22:29:15 (PDT)

Have no idea if the original still exists nor where it is if it does - sorry

Wednesday, April 12, 2000 at 16:54:54 (PDT)
Marjorie Adams Cummings

I am looking for John B.Lowery parents, brothers and sisters in TN but don't know what county or city.John B.Lowery married Martha Walker of ALA. John died in Oct 1877 in MS. From the census he was born in TNN. Any information would be appreciated. John B. and Martha had 11 chidren.

Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 15:41:40 (PDT)
Doug Mc Intyre
De maroon

What has happened to Eddiie Schwartz? Would you kind enough to keep me informed. Thanks!

Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 16:32:16 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Dear Doug De Moron, Its been slow on the WGN message page (WOMACK GENEALOGY MESSAGE PAGE) the past couple of days. At least I know its still working.

Monday, April 17, 2000 at 10:39:00 (PDT)
Randall W. Connellrwc5c@aol.com

The Phillip S. Womack that I am researching from Bosque County Texas had a Grandfather named Phillip Howard. This should have been the father of Phillip's mother. Was wondering if anyone had information on the Howards, where they were from etc.

Monday, April 17, 2000 at 10:39:15 (PDT)
Randall W. Connellrwc5c@aol.com

The Phillip S. Womack that I am researching from Bosque County Texas had a Grandfather named Phillip Howard. This should have been the father of Phillip's mother. Was wondering if anyone had information on the Howards, where they were from etc.

Monday, April 17, 2000 at 13:37:20 (PDT)
Randall W. Connell

I meant to post my message on Phillip Womack only once. Sorry I did it twice.

Monday, April 17, 2000 at 20:09:31 (PDT)
La Rue Ann Guy (Alegria)

I am looking for a womack in the womack blood line who my grandfather raised, who was my grandmothers son from a pervious marriage.
My grandfather was Walter Alexander Guy, he raise womack like he was one of his own sons, I believe that his name was costello, they called his cos for short.
He was raised in Texas, his mother was named Liddie Ann Tomlinson , Tomlinson was her madien name. She was born in Decatur Texas.
If you have any info on my womack that I am looking for please respond a.s.a.p
Thank you La Rue Ann Guy (Alegria)

Monday, April 17, 2000 at 20:36:40 (PDT)

Ho Hum is what this page is getting - c'mon open the trunks and the closets an get the dang Womacks out theah!!

Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 14:39:19 (PDT)

I've known for a while I had a Womack ancestry from my Grandmother's stories, but just found the connection. Susanah Womack married Nicholas Sandlin in Lincoln Co, TN on 28 Oct 1857. One of their children was Susannah Priscilla Jane "Susie Belle" Sandlin. That's all I know, so any help would be appreciated.

Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 19:13:11 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Mary, perhaps someone has something on this family, its one of my loose Womacks, I've not been able to connect to anyone. This Susanna, according to the 1850 census would have been born abt 1831.

1. Peter1 Womack was born Abt. 1794 in South Carolina?. He married Priscilla. She was born in North Carolina.

Notes for Peter Womack:
Spouse and children taken from the 1850 Lincoln Co., Tennessee Census.
Womack, Peter 56 SC Lincoln 186-235
Priscilla 43 NC
Susanna 19
Elizabeth 17
Thomas 15
Amanda 12
Henry 08
Yarborough 04

Children of Peter Womack and Priscilla are:
2 i. Susanna2 Womack, born Abt. 1831.
3 ii. Elizabeth Womack, born Abt. 1833.
4 iii. Thomas Womack, born Abt. 1835.
5 iv. Amanda Womack, born Abt. 1838.
6 v. Henry Womack, born Abt. 1842.
7 vi. Yarborough Womack, born Abt. 1846.

Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 19:21:46 (PDT)
Leland Keith Womack

Are their any other researchers looking into the Abner Clements Womack line from NC. to Marion Co. TN to Jackson Co. AL. I am trying to find the burial place of him and his son Alexander Patton Womack. The AL state Archives have no record of his burial, although they were a good source for his rebel records. Thanks for any info. I guess its time for a road trip to ask the librarian.

Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 21:58:49 (PDT)
Doris Womack Cox
dcox@kerrlake. com

Some time ago I joined the WGN and listed my Womack line and will now place it in the query section to give Sam something else to read :) and to remind Mark that the researchers haven't been updated since 17 Jan 1999. I know you are busy Mark, forgive me. I am researching the Halifax County VA Womacks and their ancestors in particular and all Womacks everywhere in general. My line starting with me. Doris Madeline Womack Cox b. in the last century in Halifax County VA m. Phillip McKinley Cox currently living in Mecklenburg County VA. I have two children. Father: Johnnie Henry Womack b. 1923 Halifax d. 1997 Lunenburg County VA m. Mary Estelle Martin - Living - They had 3 children all living. G-father: Henry Watson Womack b. 1881 Halifax d. 1972 Halifax m. 1. Emma Jane Newby b. 1882 d. 1923 Halifax with 11 children 9 lived to adulthood, m. 2. Nannie Elizabeth Owen b. 1906 Halifax d. 1998 buried Halifax with 11 children 10 lived to adulthood. GG-father: William Watson Womack b. c. 1855 d. ? 1927 Halifax m. Betty Francis Davis d. Halifax with 13 children. GGG-father: (maybe - need to prove) Charles Henry Womack b. c. 1835 d. 1863 m. uncertain. And beyond this depends on the proof of Charles Henry Womack. Sincerely, doris

Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 05:15:29 (PDT)

Hi...I noticed that most WOMACK's listed are from USA. Anyone have WOMACK connections to Yorkshire?
I am looking for ELIJAH WOMACK, born at Sheffield in 1835. He married EMMA BINGLEY born Wath on Dearne Nov.10,1835. They had several children (HENRY;FRANCIS J.;ALFRED;AGNES [my GGgrandmother];MARY; FRANCES;BERNARD;TERESA;CLEMENT). They (except Henry and Alfred)immigrated to Pawtucket, RI USA in 1890-1. Agnes came in 1887 with her husband JOSEPH DAWSON and baby FRANCES. EMMA died here in 1893 but ELIJAH seems to have disappeared after April 9th 1903. Perhaps someone out there has a clue to pass on...thank you in advance. Peggy

Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 17:44:48 (PDT)

Well, shugah, we think we got connections to Ole Yorkshire but we cannot
prove it - gotta be some lil ole tinge of a connect or we all wouldnt have
the same name - spelled the same way, mebbe pronounced a bit diff in some instances - Howevah, would appreciate your input of any of the Yorkshire Womack's that you can - we have some but mebbe you have a lil but different something; and, who knows, a clue not hither cometh to us..Mebbe also youhave some more that the few that have filtered across the pond on flotsam or innertubes or logs or puffs of wind!! Or, mebbe you got the name of the alien mother ship that dropped all them Womack's in Virginia as none seem to have taken a boat..

Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 17:53:26 (PDT)

Y'all pickin on me?? Ah got plenty to read shugah...yassuh, got plenty to read.
Been working anothah line recently but checking on on this lil place in the cyber ocean to see if mebbe someone found ole William was really a figment of someones overworked imagination or a real peeple...but good to see someone is a figment of my imagination and that theah really be peeple researchin Womack more that the few that show up heah now and then - some stay a spell, the othahs in and out like a will-o-the-wisp - or heah then poof gone - well sumtin lak thet anyhows..y'll keep on searchin ..

Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 18:41:46 (PDT)
Betty Phea

Roger, I can't thank you enough for all the help you have given me with connecting my family back several generations. But I think I have to thank you for the encouragement to listen to all of that tape, the information helped so much, but making myself listen has given me peace of mind. It was actually good to hear my mom's voice after all these years of refusing. anyway, Sam's comment on our folks coming over on flotsam, brought to mind another story when I was a kid that same 'aunt' told us about a stowaway, maybe the same guy that changed his name. guess that was one way to get here.

Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 15:16:55 (PDT)
Joyce Wommack

Here are the notes I have on Abner Clements Womack:
Probably buried at Mud Creek Baptist Church Cemtery, Hollywood, Al. per Fay F. Hoodock, Family Historian, 2182 Dairy Farm Rd., Gambills, Md 21054(1986) Abner was a farmer & member of the Primitive Baptist Church, s/o William & Lucinda Womack. Data sources: THE DESCENDANTS OF THOMAS & LOUVISA RICE WOMACK (DT&LRW) by Oscar Womack (1970 print). WOMACK GENEALOGY Jun 1960 pg 109 paragraph 2. "7th Uncle Abner Womack married Ibby Patton, sister to Alex Patton who died near Pelham, Tn. Uncle Abner was a nice man, a strict Baptist. Aunt Ibby was a nice woman. They both died and were buried in Jackson Co, Al. They had one daughter, Mary who married Robert Gill, father of Lemm Gill who married your cousin Mary Womack, sister to Jimmy and Billy Womack. all lived in Texas. They had several boys, William Pleasant, John Benton(?), Berry, Alex, Charley and George. all living in Jackson Co., Al. Dr. Charley lives at Spring Hill, Marshall Co., Tn. Berry, a Baptist Preacher, can't tell where he lives. Uncle Abner had a nice intelligent family of children". (written by F.M. Womack, s/o Isham Rice Womack IR17681869). Above John Benton must have been John Tipton, (RBW.) Pauline Womack, 307 E. Monroe, Greenwood, Ms 38930 (1986)
Hope it helps. Joyce

Friday, April 21, 2000 at 05:46:35 (PDT)

Found this on one of me guestbooks - mebbe someone got some info..havent seen
it heah but if a dup-lee-kate sorry--
Referred by: Net Search
From: Elliston Va.
Time: 2000-03-21 01:55:48
Comments: I am related to Joseph L Womack of Montgomery Co. Va. He is my Ggrandfather.His father was Zachariah Womack b. in Campbell Co. Va. Zachariah married Nancy Boulding. She died ,then he married Sarah Brooks. Zachariah's father and mother was Joseph P. and Creasy A. Womack. But i can't find much about them. Have you come across any of these names? Nancy Staples

Friday, April 21, 2000 at 15:09:35 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Joseph P. Womack, sp Creasey A.Daniels, was my Great great uncle, brother of my gggrandfather Larkin A. Womack, They were the children of William Womack, born abt 1765 sp Catherine. Joseph P. and Larkin are mentioned in Catherine's letters to their other brother William Womack who ran off to Illinois rather than being indentured to learn a trade after their father William died, which was the custom if the family could not afford an education. Joseph's family seemed to stay in Virginia, My Larkin headed to Tennessee then to Arkansas. and William's family stayed in Illinois, then into Ohio.

Friday, April 21, 2000 at 16:00:01 (PDT)

If everyone sends for their DNA profile, male line due out May 2000, from www.oxfordancestry.com. Then you'll all discover whether you have a common ancestor and also where the DNa line originated.

Friday, April 21, 2000 at 16:05:43 (PDT)

Sorry, it's www.oxfordancestors.com. not the address previously given. Jan

Friday, April 21, 2000 at 17:26:47 (PDT)
Roger Womack

I don't know if I want to send out my DNA profile, might have to start this genealogy from scratch again. Interesting though.

Saturday, April 22, 2000 at 14:57:59 (PDT)

I am with you and for many reasons,
1. What kind of a scam is this??
1a. Or, just a big joke!!
2. Where they get the bones of the 7 women to do DNA on?
3. I remember no mention of any daughters of Adam and Eve, tho surely
they must have had some.
4. They would have been long gone before the flood.
5. They'd probably make the DAR roster tho; just on heresay..doubt if any
paper trail exists here..

Jan, honey this is not poking fun at you, I know you mean well and are
just forwarding something you fund. So please dont take offense, OK??

Saturday, April 22, 2000 at 19:59:23 (PDT)
John Clark

I am researching the John and Sarah Womack Family that live in the Dallas, Texas area near Love Field Airport. We have seen a newspaper article at headlines read: Dallas Woman Gives Birth To 34 Children. The article went on and explained Sarah had 1 set quintuplits, 1 set qualdruplets, unknown how many triplets, twins and singles. It did say Sarah had trouble keeping up with all thier names sometimes. Sarah also stated, that one son was named after one of his brothers that had died. Any Womacks heard of this?? Suspose to be a Guniess Book Record. If so let me know for I can get ahold of Mike Womack and put to you....Thanks in advance.

John For Mike Womack

Sunday, April 23, 2000 at 14:33:26 (PDT)
Daphna Reed Cunningham

Hi, I would like to find some of my cousins,My grandmother was Flora B. Womack married James Scott Reed. I belive that Flora B. Womacks's dad was Elijah Thompson Womack,decensents of William Womack born 1620 Kent England married Mary Jane Allen, both died in Henrico Co, Va. can any one fill in the missing information thanks

Sunday, April 23, 2000 at 16:25:11 (PDT)
Daphna Reed Cunningham

Thanhs Roger that was fast on the Womacks,I will look it over and get back with my side,Just wish I would have the same luck with the Reed's Thanks again

Sunday, April 23, 2000 at 16:42:29 (PDT)
Anne Browning

Looking for information on Abraham Womack, father of Lucy Womack McFarland, of North Carolina in 1700s.

Sunday, April 23, 2000 at 19:02:25 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Does anyone out there have a good source for Virginia marriages after 1800?

Sunday, April 23, 2000 at 21:49:58 (PDT)
Shirley Szczeblewski

Iwould like to know how to get the address for THE DAUGHTER OF THE KENTUCKY REVOLUTION WAR. I can not find any info on tham and i have family that would like to jjone.thank you -shirley

Monday, April 24, 2000 at 11:23:39 (PDT)
Jim Baker

To whom it may concern;
My g-g-grandfather was Charles Augustus Gibbens. His father was Louis(Lewis)Gibbens.Louis Gibbens,b. ca 1801 in NC md. Agnes Wommack(Womack) b. ca 1804.
She, Agnes, was supposedly a twin of Rebecca Wommack who were two of the children of Richard & Ruth(Owen)Wommack. Richard is alledged to have been born in VA ca 1760. As I have it;Richard is the son of Thomas womack. Ruth Owen's father is supposed to be one James Owen. She, Ruth, came to Greene Co.,MO--The 1850 census shows her as age 87 b. VA ca 1763.
Somewhere in my files there is a reference to Col. James Owen and if memory serves he was associated with Geo. Washington in some way.
I am not actively researching these surnames but I will share my data with any interested parties.

Monday, April 24, 2000 at 17:36:24 (PDT)
David Dunn

For Anne Browning. Ann McDonald is the best source for this line, but I will lead off. The Abraham father of the Lucy who married William McFarland is the son of the Richard Womack usually known as Richard III who started out in Henrico VA and ended up in Jefferson GA dying on a visit to his son Abraham in Hancock GA. Lucy's half-sister Cicely married James H. McFarland; they were among the members of the Richard III bunch who went to Hancock/Warren/Jefferson GA. I don't know where Lucy and William ended up.

Monday, April 24, 2000 at 17:50:33 (PDT)
David Dunn

For Jim Baker. I don't know how much research you have done on the Womacks (especially in the AF)or how far back you have read on this site, but will you be surprised to hear that for many of us the most piquant part of your posting is the juxtaposition of the given names "Charles Augustus"? That is because some sources give a "Charles Augustus Womack" as The Great Progenitor (late 16th/early 17th century England) of all US Womacks. As a starter would you happen to know whether "Charles Augustus" came from your Womack or your Gibbens ancestors?

Monday, April 24, 2000 at 18:19:34 (PDT)
Sharon Umiker

Hi! I am looking for Kentucky and Virginia Womacks. My great-great-great-maternal grandfather was Richard Womack born about 1817 in Reedville (then Greenup County, now Carter County)Kentucky. His son Warren (Archie) was born about 1835. Archie was in Virginia in the last 1850's and married a one named Mary (possible last name Moore). They had 3 daughters Margaret, Elizabeth, and Jessie (Jessica)? During the Civil War Archie/Warren was transferred (served in the Confederate army) and then "disappeared. In the mid-1860's my great-grandmother Jessie traveled from Wise County, Va to Kentucy looking for her grandfather, Richard (Dick) and stayed with him until she married John Counts. After several children were born, John died. She later married Josephus Baker (County court judge) and had several more children--one of who was my maternal grandmother, Mona Baker.
Can anyone give me details on Richard or Warren/Archie. Apparently Archie just decided to "start over" without going home to his family in Virginia. He remarried in another state (bigamy!) and had more children. Later one of the daughters from this second union contacted his children from his 1st/legal marriage.
Does this sound familiar????
Sharon Umiker

Monday, April 24, 2000 at 18:24:35 (PDT)
Sharon Umiker

Correction to my message: Jessie made her trip in the mid to late 1870's. She was born in the early 1860's in Wise County (it might have been known as "Lee
County then), Virginia. Her mom, Mary, was orphaned at an early age and raised by one of her granfathers, a Dr. Moore. We are not sure if Dr. Moore was her maternal or paternal grandfather so we aren't sure if Mary's maiden name was Moore.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Monday, April 24, 2000 at 22:25:13 (PDT)

Would like to address one thang, theah was no Kentucky what evah Daughters of the revolution as mention below - and as far as the DAR goes, any one accept theah info as gospelanothing more than merely a clue is in the wrong hobby--theah info is NOT always based on fact; but heresay.. and that stuff about paper trails is not good genealogical thought - oftentimes, we have nothing more than family history or tradition, written or word of mouth, to go by.
That is history, that is the Bible! written and word of mouth, mans translations of both--I accept neither for nothing more than a point of contact and clue where to start looking.. we only fool ourselves if we copy or adhere to some quasi partiotic or whatever organization that makes rules to suit themselves - SAR, DAR, Sons of Confederacy etc, all subject to more questionable contributions than grannies word of mouth that YOU and I copied and shared with others... do not tout these organizations here as any authority for any genealogical info other than a clue where to look - as an absolute authority, now way! I read once on a search that theah were many genealogies manufactured because the person searchin wanted to be paid, and the person wanted to be apprised of some conncection with this world ot nation - hence a scam, and many of the pedigrees and whatevah done in the 1800s (late, if I remember) were just that, manufactured.
If anyone,or the DAR or any other self righteous organization takes this in offence, then so be it! The truth is the truth - we werent theah, we dont now what happened, we only have word of mouth. Evah play the game of gossip??
And theahfore, theah documentation heresay anyway; or what someone wrote in a Family Bible or a ledger trying to keep track; were these authoritative?

Let's cut the bull and do genealogy - those who push prestige are not researchers, but egotists - we have no physical or otherwise inherent responsibility to recognize them or any thing else - nor do we have to recognize theah offspring if they will be included in the total package.

Tuesday, April 25, 2000 at 07:13:03 (PDT)
Randall W. Connell

Samm - Not sure about the DAR but I belong to Sons of Confederate Veterans. They are not very strict in requiring documentation. I have seen people join on photographs of ancestors graves. Usually a military or pension record will do the job.

Tuesday, April 25, 2000 at 07:29:35 (PDT)
Randall W. Connell

There were Womacks who came to Trinity County Texas from Mississippi and Louisiana in the 1850's. The names A.J. Womack SR and William B. Womack seem to be mentioned. Not sure who else is researching this but they seem to be kin to the Phillip S. Womack I am researching from Bosque County, TX.

Tuesday, April 25, 2000 at 08:14:22 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Sam! Sam! Sam!, I think someone from DAR kicked your cat. As far as Shirley's, "The Daughter of the Kentucky Revolution", you might want to post a little more info of your family line here on WGN. If you wait until you find DOKR, this could be a slow process for you.

Tuesday, April 25, 2000 at 11:12:28 (PDT)
Ann McDonald

Hmmm, I thought I heard my name! Slight problem here - it was, as I recall, Cicely Womack who m. James McFarland - he was one of the people in charge of her father Abraham's estate in GA when Abraham died. Their son Joseph McFarland m. his cousin Nancy Womack. Now, Abraham had two daughters you might be talking about - Lucinda (but she married a Howard) and Lucy - about whom I know nothing. This Lucy was a younger daughter from Abraham's second marriage. Both of Abraham's wives were named Martha - the first being Martha Mitchell, the second possibly named Martha Watkins. Not much help. Ann

Tuesday, April 25, 2000 at 14:12:53 (PDT)
Sharon Umiker

Kentucky Womacks: I found an RD Womack age 65 on the 1880 Carter County Census.
wife: Harriet T age 62. Daugher Livonia at 36. If if the "R" in RD is Richard...he would be abouthte right age for the Richard I am seeking (father of Archie/Warren. RD was a farmer. Does anyone recognize these folks?

Tuesday, April 25, 2000 at 16:06:10 (PDT)
Roger Womack

There was a Richard D. Womack born abt 1813 sp Harriet Bragg Ward, who was there at that time. He was the son of James Tignal Womack and Nancy Rudder.

Tuesday, April 25, 2000 at 16:33:43 (PDT)
Sharon Umiker

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! That info on Richard Womack really fits what I need. I am going to check the 1850 Census to see if he has a son Archie/Archer. That would be my ancestor. And I know that Archer is a name which shows up a lot in Womack lines. I will be checking both Greenup and Carter County records. I'll find him yet! :-)

Tuesday, April 25, 2000 at 16:46:16 (PDT)

Roger, Roger, Roger,
Twerent me cat..someone picked on me granny and put her with the wrong
husband - and if that is all the Sons of The Confederacy needs - heck I can go into that fer real on one GGG-GF; and 3 GG-GF's - I got the documentation on them to boot - I think that other GG-Gf hid in the AR hills - not one of me Womack greats was in the shoot out-
And Roger bidin me time till some one can come up with a lil on ole Edmund Womack, wife Mourning, of Nottoway County VA - that is more than jest theah
names anyway--

Wednesday, April 26, 2000 at 06:23:34 (PDT)
Jackie Perry

I was surfing and found this on the web. pbs is going to have a new series starting in June 2000, it is Ancestors,the address is www.pbs.org

Thursday, April 27, 2000 at 20:43:58 (PDT)

Thankee fer the info - just hope they professional enuff to compete with us heah on WGN!!

Friday, April 28, 2000 at 08:46:48 (PDT)
Eva Smith

I am so glad that I came across this page, I sure hope that I can find the information that I need. I am at a brick wall, I have a Nancy Womack m. to John Henry Slavens. About the third generation down ends up in Kansas, but I have no idea about Nancy Womack. HELP HELP

Friday, April 28, 2000 at 13:36:06 (PDT)


Hi, I am trying to find out about a MARY LOUISA WOMACK b. abt 1827 in TN. She married PETER T. PURSER abt. 1849. They moved to MO from about 1848 to 1859. They then settled in Washington Co., Arkansas. PETER PURSER and MARY LOUISA WOMACK had the following children:

1 Martha b. abt. 1850
2 Charity Melvina b. 4/15/1855 MO
3 Sarah b.abt.1858 MO
4 Peter Thomas Jr. b. abt. 1859 AR
5 Harriet b. abt. 1861 AR
6 Burgess "Morgan" b. abt 1863 AR

Does anyone have any information on MARY LOUISA WOMACK or her parents and siblings?? I do know that she went by her middle name LOUISA. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Saturday, April 29, 2000 at 11:51:25 (PDT)
Patsy Seay

This morning I was in Moody, Texas at the cemetery. Moody is in McLennan County which is the same county Waco is in.

The following are Womacks who are buried in a curbed lot. America Womack, b 17 Oct 1855 ~ d 15 Aug 1891, Grace Womack, b 08 Mar 1898 ~ d 15 Feb 1900, next, inscribed on marker is 'Mother,' Ida H. Womack, b 12 Aug 1871 ~ d 23 Jun 1934, next to her and inscribed on the marker is 'Father,' and also has a Masonic symbol, Rev. F. P. Womack, b 24 Nov 1861 ~ d 07 Jul 1939, A. A. Womack, b 15 May 1894 ~ d 17 Jan 1945, J. F. Womack, b 26 May 1902 ~ d 05 Oct 1981, and these final two are next to each other in a row to themselves, Oscar P. Womack, b 26 Jan 1909 ~ d 10 Aug 1998, Jewel L. Womack, only one date, 30 May 1905.

Hope this helps someone.

Patsy Seay
McGregor, Texas

Saturday, April 29, 2000 at 20:07:06 (PDT)
Ronald W. Womack

I found a site today which shows land patents. http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/search.asp which shows land patents in different states and by counties. Now does anyone know if there were specific days in which individuals could patent land or if it could be done anytime. Am hoping that it could be done anytime as I have found different Womacks getting them on the same day and was hopeful that it might indicate that they had traveled to the government office together and possibly closely related. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance and keep up the good work.

Saturday, April 29, 2000 at 20:26:43 (PDT)
Roger Womack

Patsy, thank you for the post. This is another one of those Thomas and Louvisa Rice, descendants. Below is what I have gathered on Francis' children. Kerry Pedigo is working on part of this line, her email address is below.

1. Francis Pinckney Womack, (son of Soloman, son of William, son of William, son of Thomas Womack,sp Loucisa Rice) was born November 24, 1861 in White Co., Tennessee, and died July 08, 1939 in Moody, Texas. He married (1) America. She was born October 17, 1855, and died August 15, 1891. He married (2) Ida Mae H. Talley October 18, 1891. She was born August 12, 1871, and died June 23, 1934 in Moody, Texas.

Children of Francis Womack and Ida Talley are:
i. Gola Pearl Womack, born August 02, 1892; died 1915. She married Frank Taylor; born Abt. 1890.
ii. Arsey Arbalee Womack, born May 14, 1894; died January 17, 1945.
iii. Wendell Kirkendall Womack, born March 07, 1896. He married Lena Taylor; born Abt. 1899.

Source: Kerry Pedigo e-mail: Pedigo k@aol.com

iv. Grace Enzie Womack, born March 05, 1898; died February 15, 1900 in Moody, Texas.
v. Wilda Womack, born December 15, 1899. She married Bert E. Crawford; born Abt. 1896.
vi. James Frank Womack, born May 26, 1902; died October 05, 1981.
vii. Zalpha Mae Womack, born June 24, 1903.
viii. Zetta Rae Womack, born June 24, 1903. She married Claud Alliston Van Doren; born July 24, 1898; died May 07, 1954.
ix. Jewel Womack, born November 23, 1905. She married Thomas Jefferson Ford.
x. Dollie Marie Womack, born 1906.
xi. Oscar Powers Womack, born January 26, 1909; died August 10, 1998. He married Jewell Pauline Lilly Abt. 1928; born May 30, 1905.

Sunday, April 30, 2000 at 08:07:37 (PDT)

Hi, Thank you Sam for your note...not that I am all that sure what you were asking, lol. I thought I would add a few tidbits. Elijah Womack's middle name I found out was Henry. He died in Dec. 1909, maybe in Illinois. My Womack's obviously hung out in England a lot longer than the rest. They immigrated in 1890 settling in Pawtucket RI. The Womacks came into this country through Boston. Recent information tells me that a branch of the family went to Belleville, Ill. The last names of Jackson--->Abbott.

Sunday, April 30, 2000 at 17:10:54 (PDT)
Don Womack

Hi all Womacks!!

Have enjoyed reading your postings. We can go back to Robert Womack (my GGF & a medic in the Confederate Army - South Carolina, (wife ?). He had at least one son, Matthew B. who married Sally (?). Their son was Walter Alonzo Womack (my GF)who lived in Paulding Co. and Rome, Ga. in the 1970's.
Would really appreciate any info you may have on Robert, either forward or back. Also looking for a Mary Irene Womack, born 1851, who came over the Cumberlands to White Co. Tn. and is a daughter of William (?) Womack.
Any info on above would be greatly appreciated.
Don Womack

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