July 1999 Message Archive


Thursday, July 01, 1999 at 17:35:32 (PDT)
Sanford G. Etheridge
Sanfordeth@aol.com

Looking for descendants of John Hawkins Womack (1806-1854) of Bedford Co TN, also for his parents. It seems to be widely accepted that he is son of David, son of Alexander. But years (decades!) ago I was led to believe his father could possibly be Alexander Jr., brother of the said David. The basis for this was the tradition in our family that "Hawkins had two brothers, Elisha and Mike." I wrote this to a distant cousin, Helen Womack, school superintendent in Shelbyville, and she drew the conclusion (which I wasn't smart enough to draw), "If they were his brothers, and there were no more, David Jr. was not his brother and David Sr. could not be his father. That leaves Alexander Jr. as a possibility." She went on to add: "This was given to me by a friend (not a relative)," and imparted this piece of information:

"From Chancery Court Records--
Bedford County at State Library
Alexander Womack Dec'd.
This citation had the name Hawkins Womack in it."

Has anybody seen this or does anybody know anything about it? Would appreciate hearing from anybody who is interested in Bedford County Womacks.
San


Thursday, July 01, 1999 at 21:03:57 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLwomack@aol.com

San, Yep this is a confusing line. This is what I have: However, it is more supposition than fact. Alexander Jr.'s first child was William who married Margaret Ellis his 2nd spouses was Francis they had John Hawkins born abt1832 sp Cassie Morris. The tie from Alexander Jr. to William is based on the fact Alexander Jr. paid William's taxes on some land when he was under age. I have a copy of that record. Also William Womack, that married Margaret Ellis in 1790 in Lunenburg Co., VA., was witnessed by Jacob Womack, son of Alexander. Since Jacob had bought land from Alexander and lived near by, it was a pretty good guess he was his brother. still just a guess at this point but I have seen family connections made on less evidence. Hawkins sp Jenny Cooper was the brother of Michael and Elisha H, and David Jr., and a few more. But I have never seen any records that Hawkins first name was John. Their parents were David sp Elizabeth son of Alexander Sr. I would be interested in what others have on this bunch also.


Thursday, July 01, 1999 at 21:22:16 (PDT)
Roberta Fleischer
RFleis5113@aol.com

Looking for Abraham Lincoln High School (Brooklyn) graduates 1956-57. Is there an alumni group? When will reunions be held? Any graduates living in Southern California? Especially looking for Zella Klein (maiden name Rosen) Look forward to hearing from an ALHS fellow alumni.


Thursday, July 01, 1999 at 21:41:33 (PDT)
sam
samsawadee@uswest.net

Roger me cuz!
Ye be so livid that ye didnt note that the perpretrator's name wuz Adam rather than Andy?? But I agree that Mark should delete and the rest of us should shun any one that posts such drivel to WGN as some dang chain letter type thang! I can assure you, if the so called learned individual contacts me I will ignore as I have some others who pulled some stunts and used my web page stuff to WFT or Ancestry and so on.. They can send till blue in the face, I dont forget and I do not forgive!!...Call me selfish? OK!


Friday, July 02, 1999 at 08:19:21 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

For those interested, The LDS church has just released the 1881 ancestors in Great Britain on CD-Rom. Over 30 million-plus names. The data has been divided into eight regions: East Anglia, Greater London, Midlands, North Central, Northern Borders and Miscellany, Southwestern, Wales and Monmouth, and Scotland. Price $33.00. a reasonable price.


Friday, July 02, 1999 at 13:47:51 (PDT)
Roger Womack
RGWomack@aol.com

After several days of no e-mail I realized I had a problem. If anyone has been trying to get in touch please send to my RGWomack@aol.com address: For some reason no mail is coming through the MLWomack address. I sure hope it gets straightened out soon.


Friday, July 02, 1999 at 13:56:10 (PDT)
Roger Womack
RGWomack@aol.com

Forgot to mention on the 1881 British ancestors cds. That is 25 cds for 33.00. I ordered them today. 1-800-537-5971 or http:// www.familysearch.org
very affordable.


Friday, July 02, 1999 at 18:54:14 (PDT)
Barb Rakers
phusion@midwest.net

Looking for Rachel Womack, daughter of Henry & Sarah Womack. She married William Tabor. She was born December 17, 1717.


Friday, July 02, 1999 at 21:38:05 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

Barb, recently someone else was looking for this Rachel and William Tabor, they believed she was the daughter of Abraham Jr. son of Abraham b 1644. If she was the daughter of Henry Womack born 1683 and Sarah Scranton he was the son of George Womack born 1653 sp Elvira Lansing son of Henry Womack born 1625 sp Phoebe Randall. Notes: Some genealogist of today swear Henry was a Warwick---but this I know, he did business with Wm. Watters a planter in Barbados under the name of Henry Womacke. This Henry was not in VA, apparently, 1624 --- but was at Accomack Co., VA., 9apr1653 when his son George was born". Don't have a clue if he was related to our Henrico Co., Womacks. You might get in touch with Robert Edwards EdwardsRG@aol.com this is his line.


Friday, July 02, 1999 at 23:35:48 (PDT)
Jeff Womack
wbears@home .com

Looking for information on Oliver Cromwell Womack reportedly born 1869 in Flat Creek, Bedford Co, TN and died 1911. Son of Andrew Jackson Womack (born October 29, 1839, Bedford, TN, died 1904) and Sarah Pearson (no info), Oliver married Minnie Mae Baxter (born 1874, died 1942) and was the father of Thomas Roy Womack (born September 5, 1891 in Huntland, Franklin Co, TN, died July 6, 1964). I have what appears to be otherwise reliable information from a record left by Baxter G. Womack. Despite his unique name, Oliver has eluded my electronic efforts to uncover his vital statistics. Can anybody confirm or refute the connection between Andrew Jackson and Thomas Roy? Please provide sources if possible.


Saturday, July 03, 1999 at 07:49:31 (PDT)
Robert E. Womack
rewomack@juno.com

Can you identify the parents and ancestors of either John Thomas Womack (born ~1743) or his wife, Louvisa Rice, daughter of John Rice, (born ~1745) of Lunenburg or Halifax County Virginia?


Saturday, July 03, 1999 at 14:17:09 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest.net

Robert,
Curious as to where you came up with the John Thomas instead of Thomas..
Care to elucidate?


Saturday, July 03, 1999 at 14:59:07 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest.net

Jeff,
If yer Oliver wuz born in 1869 he should show on an 1870, 1880, 1900
and 1910 census somewhere..check the soundex and them miracode cards out fer 1880, 1900 and 1910..in TN if that wuz wheah lived and died.


Saturday, July 03, 1999 at 15:56:15 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

Jeff,
I don't have the proof you need but have the same line. It seems all his siblings died of TB. You may be able to do some backtracking on the cemetery records in Flatcreek also.

Andrew Jackson Womack son of Charles W. Womack sp Elizabeth Hale; son of Michael Womack sp Sarah Jones. A.J. was born June 29, 1839 in Bedford Co., TN, and died December 27, 1932. He married Sarah Pearson. She
was born Abt. 1840.

Sarah and daughters Sallie, Lucille, Bertie and Bettie all died from T.B. and are buried in Rosebank Cemetery, Flatcreek, TN

Children of Andrew Womack and Sarah Pearson are:
2 i. Sallie Womack.
3 ii. Lucille Womack.
4 iii. Bertie Womack.
5 iv. Bettie Womack.
6 v. Oliver Cromwell Womack, born 1869 in Bedford Co., TN; died 1909 in Huntland, TN. He married Minnie Mae Baxter Abt. 1890 in Bedford Co., TN; born 1871 in Bedford Co., TN; died 1943 in Presott, AZ.


Saturday, July 03, 1999 at 16:08:50 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

Jeff, forgot to mention the birth and death dates are different than the ones you have on AJ.............Sam, I was wondering about the John Thomas also. Very few middle names were given before the late 1700's so I'm a;ways a little suspicious when they show up before 1750. Thats not to say there were not some. But I think in most cases it is in error. Such as Mary Jane Allen, Mary Ruth Puckett, Tabithe Jane Hudson ect.


Saturday, July 03, 1999 at 20:02:38 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest.net

Yep Rog,
and even if two names wer given , mostly they used one--i.e. James Alexander
was Alex Sr and Alex Jr in the records--only reason we know James is because of
James Alexander III son of Alex Jr..then he had IV as I remember..


Saturday, July 03, 1999 at 23:15:43 (PDT)
Jeff Womack
wbears@home.com

The dates I have for Andrew Jackson Womack are taken from his tombstone in Rosebank Cemetary in Flat Creek, TN (as recorded in a compilation by Baxter G. Womack). The birthdate is confirmed by Andrew's "Soldier's Application for Pension" signed on February 11, 1904. How do these compare to your sources?


Saturday, July 03, 1999 at 23:21:38 (PDT)
Jeff Womack
wbears@home.com

I should update my info on the subject dates:
Andrew Jackson Womack: born October 29, 1839; died October 29, 1904.
Sarah Pearson: born March 19, 1847; died December 18, 1898.
All four dates as shown on tombstones in the Rosebank Cemetary.


Sunday, July 04, 1999 at 00:03:54 (PDT)
Webmaster
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com
http://www.womacknet.com/message/archive/index.html

March and April 1999 messages have been moved to the archive. You can access them via the link above.

Have a safe and sane 4th!
-Mark


Sunday, July 04, 1999 at 08:43:47 (PDT)
Sam Womack
samsawadee@uswest.net

Subj: Hawkins Womack
I too have Hawkins as the son of David who was son of Alex. Do not know about the Elisha connection but the Mike could have been the Michael Womack m. Sarah
Jones who ended up naming Nashville AR. Michael was the grandson of Alex Sr as my records show Hawkins was..
Then I have William who married a Frances ? as the parents of John Hawkins,
b. abt 1834. John H married Cassandra Morris, had Charles Benjamin who married
Clercy Mae Harnby, had Arleigh Dewey Womack, who married Gladys Vaugh, had
Robert Bently who married Minnie ? and had Bobby Faye, Ronnie and Suzie. I got this from a descendant of William who lives in AR..waiting for her to tie in which of the last three she connects to. Will keep posted whe I get it.


Sunday, July 04, 1999 at 09:04:22 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest,net

I am beginning to have serious doubts about Jacob Womack, b. 1765-79, m. Mary Wills, as being the son of Alex Jr.. I realize they lived close, that Jacob had a land transaction with Edmund a son of Alex Jr..but this could have happened between cousins as well. Also the same as the land transaction between a Jacob and Alex Jr.
What I am going on again is the naming process--either Jacob was pretty well put out with Alex Jr as a father and didnt name a child after him; or Alex was not Jacob's father..Secondly why would Alex Jr name a son Jacob when he had no
uncles of that name (that we know of) nor did his wife have any that fit the description..the only Jacob nearby was Major Jacob who was Alex Sr's brother Richard's son; and the cousin of Alex Jr..perhaps this Jacob of Watauga being somewhat of a celebrity caused the naming??..
Jacobs sons in order of birth as close as we have them--Jacob Jr; John,
Thomas Pannell, Daniel Joseph...No David's, No William's, No Richard's--
No Alex nor James..no Richard even..nada, zilch...unless there are siblings missing from all these lines...I do know there have been only three of Major Jacob's children found..two daughters and one son, a William also..anyway if it werent for these lil mysteries what fun would there be in genealogy??


Sunday, July 04, 1999 at 12:43:53 (PDT)
Barbara J. Hendricks
thetoad@SKTC.net
none

I am trying to locate a MERRILL (not sure of spelling) WOMACK. He is hopefully still alive. He is a Christian who was active in a music ministry 20-25 years ago. He made some records and tapes. I am trying to replace some tapes that have been lost.

I realize that this is not the usual type of request you probably receive, but I would appreciate any information anyone might have regarding this man.

Thank you very much.

Barbara J. Hendricks


Monday, July 05, 1999 at 13:21:00 (PDT)
Webmaster
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

FYI,

The WGN pages stored on AOL (Vital record message pages) will be going away very shortly. I will back them up and maybe repost them in some form on the Earthlink site. I am canceling my AOL service as I hav threatened to do in the past. Just never got around to it. There shouldn't be any other interuptions.

-Mark


Monday, July 05, 1999 at 19:37:41 (PDT)
Rhonda
lytledr@aol.com

I thought that some of you might be interested in Ancestry.com's database that is free for searches at this time. It is a Civil War database. It is still under construction, but there were many Womack's listed. The address is http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/cwrd/cwrd_index.htm


Tuesday, July 06, 1999 at 00:07:31 (PDT)
Fannie
myxandra@aol.com

I am looking for the parents of LOUIS EVERETT WOMACK born July 20, 1861, died appox 1940. Married MARY FRANCES RUSHING Dec. 31, 1884. They are listed in Amite Co. MS 1900 census. Or any information on these people would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


Tuesday, July 06, 1999 at 12:34:19 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

Fannie, I have your Louis Everett as the son of Lewis P. Womack and Minerva Middleton; son of William Washington Womack sp Charity; son of David Womack and Mildred Pryor. I'll send you what I have from Louis descending.


Wednesday, July 07, 1999 at 09:07:34 (PDT)
Roxanne Martin
joeroxm@aol.com

I would like to connect researchers of Sarah Womack(Abt. 1730-Amelia Co. Va. - 1795) who married James Cody/(Archdeacon III)(Abt. 1730-Ireland- 1795 Ga.)
I have her Parents as Richard Womack(1710-Eng.-1785-Hancock Co.Ga.)and Ann
Sherwood.
Thanks, Roxanne


Wednesday, July 07, 1999 at 14:32:28 (PDT)
Daisy Goldenstein
daisy@verdenet.com

Jeff how great to see your message , there arn't many inquiries about Andrew's line. Happy your sill inerested. Andrew Jackson was my grandfather, Oliver "Ollie" Cromwell was ggrandfather, Thomas "Roy" was my father. Roy was 13 yrs old when Andy died and 18 yrs old when Ollie died. He told us about Andy being crippled from the war. I personnally knew Andy's second son, John Dick, "Uncle J.D."We visited in his home in Phx several times as children When his wife Beulah died he spent his summers in Flagstaff. He often stopped by the theater where I worked to visit with me when I wasn' busy. I don't have a death date but I think it was about 1960 when J.D, died..Ollie's dau., Maude Mae, died about 6 wks. after her gr andmoher Sarah. She is buried next to her grandparents in the Rosebank Cemetary. The headstone reads Maude Mae, Dau. of O.J. and Minnie Mae Womack. Andy and Ollie both died in Huntland, Franklin Cty, Tnn. There has been a lot of confusion over Ollie because he was not listed in the geneology book on Michael Womack written by Virginia Buxton. Hope this clears up some of t he confusion.


Thursday, July 08, 1999 at 01:02:51 (PDT)
TRACIE LEE WOMACK EASTERLING
tracieeasterling@hotmail.com

MY NAME IS TRACIE LEE WOMACK EASTERLING. I AM LOOKING FOR INFO ON MISSISSIPPI WOMACKS. MY FATHER IS MYRON KEMPH WOMACK, BORN APRIL 30, 1936; IN HAZELHURST MS. HIS PARENTS WERE HERMAN KEMPH WOMACK WHO MARRIED JESSIE MAE DIXON. IF ANYONE HAS ANY INFO TO SHARE ON MISSISSIPPI WOMACKS; PLEASE CONTACT ME AT tracieeasterling@hotmail.com. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!


Thursday, July 08, 1999 at 18:58:17 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

The 1881 British Census and Index came in the mail today, if anyone would like a look up let me know. I have found over 500 Womack's so far, don't have a clue who they are. But on some of your other lines may be able to help. It list age and children pretty much like our census does.


Friday, July 09, 1999 at 11:02:25 (PDT)
Joni Case
jcase@texramp.net

Last Sat. we photographed all the Womack/Wommack headstones in Oak Ridge Cemetery just outside Marietta in Cass county TX. I am going to make a typed list. I would like to know if there is any interest in this area? I will e-mail any pic requested.


Friday, July 09, 1999 at 18:03:34 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest.net

Joni,
If you will send the listing, and the name location of the cemetery, will post
to my web page for all to see..your call.


Friday, July 09, 1999 at 21:34:13 (PDT)
Trusty
sdwolan@aol.com

Hello from your yankee cuz,
I was forwarded a message about some info on L.D.S which states that my gggrandfather (Aaron H. Womack) parents were Jesse Womack and Hannah---.
I know that Jesse was married to a Miss Blackledge, dau. of Icabod Blackledge.
Looking further I found that Icabod had a dau. named Hannah. I guess my question is How accurate is LDS and does anyone know of any records which state that Jesse in fact married Hannah Blackledge?


Saturday, July 10, 1999 at 18:05:02 (PDT)
casaundra yenor
mkoondog1@cfi.net

looking for people that are named hayward at birth then were adopted at
somepoint after birth two names that i have are gregory hayward and judy
hayward their mothers maiden name was virgina gaddie father was lee hayward
cant get information from family they are holding big secreat!I known that
they the mother and father went to prison in littleton co.they have a brother
name charles yenor he went to foster home till mother got out of prison.They
have a sister name joan yenor who went with her father at time.they have
another brother name harry yenor he went to foster home to then went in
marines.i know where later three are need to find the ones adopted out.
happened around year 1952 or so. please help


Sunday, July 11, 1999 at 09:19:20 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest.net

Ennyone got access to the 1800 and 1810 censuses for Lunenburg Co VA?
If'n so..wouldja take a looksee for a Mary Cole. Or a Josiah Cole with a
female about 60ish in 1800 living with...
thankee muchley


Sunday, July 11, 1999 at 10:43:52 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

Sam.....1880 Federal census was lost for all counties except Accomack and Louisa. The District of Columbia west of the Potomac River is also Lost.

Notes: Virginia in 1800 included what is now West Virginia.....The District of Columbia was enumerated in 1880 with the Virginia schedules.

1810 Federal census extant for all counties except Alexandria ( in DC), Grayson, Greenbrier, Halifax, Hardy, Henry, James City, King William, Lee, Louisa, Mecklenburg, Nansemond, Northampton, Orange, Patrick, Pittsylvania, Russell, and Tazewell.



Notes: Virginia in 1810 included what is now West Virginia. The independant cities of Norfolk, Petersburg, and Richmond have extant 1810 censuses seperate from their adjoining counties.



Sunday, July 11, 1999 at 10:57:14 (PDT)
Roger Womack
Mlwomack@aol.com

Just looked on the map, almost all of those Virginia censuses that were lost in the 1810 census except for three bordered NC., TN., and KY. Perhaps those census takers strayed to far.


Sunday, July 11, 1999 at 13:05:44 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest,net

Rog, Ole Cuz!
Not lookion fer 1880 only 1800 and 1810..they OK?


Sunday, July 11, 1999 at 13:47:12 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

Sam...sorry, the 1880 in both places should have been 1800. Don't know what happened there, may have been my carple tunneled index finger or brain. LOL


Monday, July 12, 1999 at 10:24:13 (PDT)
Webmaster
wgnwebmaster@womacknet.com

Joni, re cemetery listing:

Joni, if you not already done so with Sam, I'll be more than happy to post the cemetery info, pictures and all to the WGN site. Always interested in invaluable primary source information like that. Email me and let me know.

-Mark


Monday, July 12, 1999 at 18:07:56 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest.net

Yep Joni,
heah on WGN is ok by me also..the important thang is to get the info out theah no mattah who do the showin!!


Wednesday, July 14, 1999 at 06:15:24 (PDT)
Carolyn Powell
powell@blueridge.net

Re LDS: My experience with info in IGI records on familysearch.com, was that the records are not reliable; however, use what you find as clues, but please try to document their info. It is my understanding that LDS simply takes what people give them in the way of family genealogy and do not document anything. I have written to one of the submitters re a family of mine. I have documentation that what he has submitted is incorrect, but it is still out there for all to see....incorrect. This said, I still think the LDS has done a lot of good in putting more genealogy info online.


Wednesday, July 14, 1999 at 15:40:56 (PDT)
Brian Wamack
bwamack@ptialaska.net

I'm sure this has been asked before, but, are the Wamacks and the Womacks related? I did look for a FAQ sheet. but didn't find one. I read that the Womacks are from Yorkshire. Can I assume that the Wamacks are also from there?
Thanks for any help provided! Again, I apologize for what probably is a very old question.

Brian Wamack


Wednesday, July 14, 1999 at 20:59:27 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

Brian,...I would venture to say a very high percentage of the Womacks are related. I have found Wamack; Wammack; Wammock; Wamic; Wamick;
Wamck; Wamoc; Wamac; Wamach; Womach; Womack; Wommack; Woomack; Womacks; Wemack; Wammick; Waymack; Waimack; Warmack; Warmack, Wolmack and many other variations that I have been able to tie into our line. There was a Wamack family who immigrated from Germany in one of Sams Arkansas censuses. Don't know much about them.


Thursday, July 15, 1999 at 10:46:16 (PDT)
Brian Wamack
bwamack@ptialaska.net

Thanks Roger, for the reply! Thanks to Ann too, she e-mailed me direct. Does anyone know about the military hospital at Ft. Bragg NC? I've heard that it's named after a Womack, or Wamack.

Brian


Thursday, July 15, 1999 at 14:59:29 (PDT)
Melissa Womack Durant
melissa@kennmarkgroup.com

I am seeking any information on my paternal grandfather Stanley Eugene Womack born in or about 1920. He married Ethel Marchand in California around the year of 1943. He is the father of three (known) boys: Kenneth Ray, Ronald and Richard (from a subsequent marriage). I would appreciae any help in locating his vital stats. Thank you.


Thursday, July 15, 1999 at 15:28:00 (PDT)
Mark Womack
markwomack@womacknet.com
http://www.womacknet.com/sources/wgv3n2.html

Brian,

At the above link is an article written about Bryant Womack, the person the Fort Bragg Hospital is named after. Somewhere on the web is a listing of National Medal's of Honor, and it describes his actions that brought him that distinction in more detail than the above article. Been meaning to make a web page covering Bryant Womack, but just haven't gotten the chance yet.

-Mark


Thursday, July 15, 1999 at 20:51:07 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

Melissa, I believe this is your Stanley.

1. Stanley Eugene10 Womack (Reasie9, Richmond8, Richmond7, David6, David5, Richard4, Richard3, Richard2, William1) was born April 08, 1920 in California, and died June 1966 in Modesto, CA. He married (1) Ethel Marchand Abt. 1943 in California. He married (2) Betty Jean Jones October 08, 1949 in Chico Butte Co., CA, daughter of William Jones and Ida Miller. She was born August 08, 1931 in Nelson, Butte Co., CA, and died June 25, 1995 in Butler, Butte Co., CA.

Children of Stanley Womack and Betty Jones are:
2 i. Kenneth Ray11 Womack,
3 ii. Ronald Womack, born . He married Gail Lynn Komerek; born Abt. 1955.
4 iii. Richard Womack, born

Let me know if this is the right one.


Thursday, July 15, 1999 at 21:06:12 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.co

Stanleys death was in 1996 not 1966, hit the wrong button again.


Friday, July 16, 1999 at 12:35:22 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

CORRECTION....Stanley's children with Ethel Marchand were Kenneth Ray and Ronald. Richards spouse was Gail Lynn Komerek. Melissa made the correction for me on Kenneth and Ronald. Thanks


Friday, July 16, 1999 at 23:51:27 (PDT)
Meredith Adams Sheridan
Msheridan@pandora.be

[posted by Mark Womack, markwomack@womacknet.com; I got this some time back and thought it might apply to someone out there.]

Dear Mark, I have no idea if your Womacks cross the path of my Adams, but... There is a bible in the Nashville archives that includes the Adams, Power, Paine, and Womack families. I know for a fact that my Henrietta Power Paine married Wm G. Adams and that on the page including the Adams there are Womacks. I believe that the Adams (George bnC@1795 in Va) are in Va, move to Orange and Caswell Cos NC and then on to Tenn. Robertson and Montgomery Cos as well as Dickson. Can you tell me the names of your Womacks @ 1800 and if they intermarried with the Adams Family?. The other family in there is the Hobdy family of whom I have no knowledge. (Yolanda Reid tells me there were many Hobdy families in Robertson. She is the County archivist.) Many thanks, Meredith Adams Sheridan Msheridan@pandora.be


Saturday, July 17, 1999 at 13:30:03 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest.net
www.samsawadee.net

Mark I tried that E mail address on that last posing yours..It is a bad address
got it back as a no go!!

Note the new page designation--major links such as Sam's Place, Samsville and Womack Wonderings are up and running--others are slowly being worked in..lot of old URLs to change and cross reference also--there will be a lot of construction going on; but in due time should have it about 90% or better most of the time..

Would like to ask those who do visit any page with a guest page, please leave a message if ye want to..or ask me about my personal line. However, please post all queries about Womacks heah on WGN for all to see and you will certainly get more responses!! Thankee muchly..


Saturday, July 17, 1999 at 16:49:14 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

Does anyone know anything about the organization, Sons of Confederate Veterans? Like, are they a good organization or some right wing supremo group . Qualification for joining seems to be proof of a veteran who served honorably in the Civil War. I just don't know anything about them. site is; http://www.scv.com


Saturday, July 17, 1999 at 18:36:19 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest.net
http://www.samsawadee.net/

Dudettes and Dudes!
Ah done goofed on that URL below fergot the heytch tee tee pee stuff!!


Sunday, July 18, 1999 at 17:45:58 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest.net

Rog,
As for the Sons of the Confed Vets; dont think no right wing supremo bunch; jest a lot of good ole boys who got a closet full of dixie cups!!


Tuesday, July 20, 1999 at 07:03:54 (PDT)
Janet Womack Parker
janpark@aol.com

Hi! I'm just getting my feet wet with researching my father's family, so I really don't have a lot of information at all about them. The only thing I know for sure is that my great-grandfather's name was John Drewry Womack and that he was most likely born in the 1860's. His wife's name was Cora Williams, and I don't have any info on her either. Their children were: my grandfather, Algie Bertram (b. 1/21/1899 d. 2/2/81), Dillard Kermit, Amie, Hubert, Lester and Lovick. I know that's not a lot to go on, but if anybody has any information at all on this line, I would love to hear from you! Thanks!


Tuesday, July 20, 1999 at 07:23:26 (PDT)
Sara Womack White
DRSARA @compuzone.net

On the who is father of Hawkins discussion, my late aunt, Helen Womack, who was mentioned gave me some information saying that Alexander was the father but later sent information that had David as the father. She cited some other researchers who were cousins who had used the DAR Library publication. I do not know which she believed to true, but I would assume that she was then going along with the David as the father scenario.

As always, I enjoy reading the site and finding out about so many Womacks.


Tuesday, July 20, 1999 at 11:42:43 (PDT)
Mark Womack
markwomack@womacknet.com

Re: Sons of Confederate Veterans

Roger,

I think the SCV as a whole is a good organization. From what I have been able to gather, they are at least trying (now) to handle Confederacy issues (ie flags, monuments, etc) in a way that is fair and true to the spirit of rememberance. However, they are uncompromising on a few issues (I think their website outlines a lot of this). I don't know anything about local chapters or past actions. I sure there are a few yocals.

They have a tough line to walk nowadays. On one hand they want to honor the men that fought for the South during the Civil War, and I think that is a good thing. But on the other hand, you can't escape what it was they were fighting to retain. Yes, there is a strong sense of creating their own country, but the right to own slaves is still at the heart of the entire conflict. And with yocals saying stuff like "The South shall rise again!", if I was African-American I'd be very concerned when there is a group out there working to keep Confederacy history 'alive'. I'm white and I'm concerned. I have several ancestors that fought in the Civil War. I'm still trying to understand their motivations (there is a really good book about soldiers in the Civil War, I'll dig out the title later). But I think the SCV appears to be trying to stop the history from being erased or eradicated. Maybe someone else has another opinion. I'd love to hear it. Opinions, not flames.

-Mark


Tuesday, July 20, 1999 at 13:55:41 (PDT)
Sanford G. Etheridge
Sanfordeth@aol.com

Roger, I don't think the issue is whether the SCV is a good or bad organization. It is, historically, one of the premier patriotic organizations, like the DAR, SAR, and United Daughters of the Confederacy. Even the DAR has taken its lumps lately. Every organization is what you, we, or they (the members) make of it. The issue is why you, and doubtless millions of others, have never heard of it. In your case, it is probably your youth. Old dudes like me can even remember when there were Confederate veterans around, not just sons (now, mostly great-grandsons and great-greats). As long as the old veterans were around, there was no thought of depriving them of the honor that was rightfully theirs. I used to belong to the local chapter some 35 years ago, but dropped it because they were already beginning to cave in to the modern revisionism. The older members were mostly yokels (Mark's word, thank you, Mark) in their dotage and the young ones mostly gun nuts. That revisionism is now almost universal. In the old days, when the GAR was still around (that's Grand Army of the Republic, Union vets, and they probably still are around, but you never hear of them), you never heard of any aspersions cast on the Confederate vets or their descendants from that side--valor respected valor. While vets on both sides were still alive, it was common to say that bitterness and recrimination about the "late unpleasantness," where it existed, was kept up exclusively by those whose service was done many miles behind the lines.
San


Tuesday, July 20, 1999 at 15:14:40 (PDT)
TRUSTY
SDWOLAN@AOL.COM


RE,SCV;
Hello from the Yankee cus.
I read with interest the discussion about the S.C.V. While not a member,I do know some friends of my brother,who lives in Ky.have a chapter in Franklin Ky.
From what I have seen this chapter is mainly re-inacters,but they do get into
the flag issue somewhat.One of the more honorable achievments of the Franklin chapter was to excavate the graves of two confederate soldiers who were executed
and quickly buried alongside some railroad tracks in the Frnklin area. The bodies(remains) were reinterred in the Franklin Cemetary beside some other
Confederate soldiers. I have not heard any subversive or rightwing kind of talk from any of these men while I have been in their company.So at least as far as this chapter of the SCV is concerned,I don't feel they are a threat,just some people who feel that their history should be kept alive, as do most ethnic groups in our country. On another note, the south confederated because they felt it was unconstitutional for the federal gov. to make decisions which were reserved for the states to make. While I don't think this was the case ,the south certainly did. TRUSTY


Tuesday, July 20, 1999 at 15:55:53 (PDT)
Norma Lawhon
Suschase@hotmail

Looking for more iformation on my Uncle Robert Otto Womack. He lived in Okemah Oklahoma from 1919 on.Also any information John P Womack my grandfather. He was born 27 may 1861 in Warren County Tennessee.John's wife was Lena Bell e Webb.They had my mother abt 1893 probably in Warren county Tennessee.Need information on Maud's husband who went by the name Arthur Johnson.Maud died in 1919 and Arthur raised a second family.Would like their information.


Tuesday, July 20, 1999 at 16:05:36 (PDT)
Norma Lawhon
Suschase@hotmail.com

Forgot to mention that the daughter of John P Womack and Lena Belle Webb was Maud Lee Womack.


Tuesday, July 20, 1999 at 20:35:37 (PDT)
Hermann Miskelly
hlmiskelly@aol.com

I am looking for a George Lester Womack who was stationed in Karlsruhl,
Germany in 1957-58 as an MP with the US Army. He was friends with my
father and mother, Herman and Erna Miskelly, and my mother is trying
to locate him. I would appreciate any assistance. Thank you.

Hermann Miskelly, Jr.


Tuesday, July 20, 1999 at 21:37:49 (PDT)
Mark Womack
markwomack@womacknet.com

Re: SCV & Civil War

I have the name of the book I mentioned earlier: For Cause and Comrades, Why Men Fought in the Civil War by James M. McPherson. My attempting to describe it in this tiny space would not do it justice. I highly recommend it for researchers with ancestors that fought in the Civil War, North or South. Mr. McPherson has done an excellent job of going to original sources, the letters of Civil War soldiers, to determine what their thoughts, attitudes, and goals were in fighting the Civil War. Very well done book.

I am glad to hear some other voices in the discussion, and I am happy to hear good things about the SCV. Sorry if my 'yokel' crack offended anyone. We have them out here in California as well. :-) I would like to learn more about this 'modern revisionism'. I don't suppose there is a book written on the subject specifically in regards to the Civil War?

-Mark


Saturday, July 24, 1999 at 05:24:10 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest.net

For info on CW resources of all types, go here and then into the home page and scroll thru all the available data.

http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/


Saturday, July 24, 1999 at 16:46:19 (PDT)
Connie Baumann
Littletn@aol.com

FYI...For all you Womac/Womack researchers in McMinn Co., TN.. The McMinn County Historical Society now has for sale a McMinn County cemetery book. It was written by Samme & Marvin Templin, the couple who have put all the cemeteries online.. I have no financial interest in this book, just passing info along..


Sunday, July 25, 1999 at 13:57:48 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest.net
http://www.samsawadee.net/

Fer yer info-may-shun, I have added the data I had on Alexander Womack of
IL/UT as an item to teh homepage above; including some photos, they are fair as they were xerox copies prob of copies. I can tell one of the people is definitely a related Womack! Look at Walters ears!! Exact dupes of me own!!


Tuesday, July 27, 1999 at 11:43:22 (PDT)
Jo Ann Wommack Garner
jgarner2@accucomm.net

Tuesday, July 27, 1999.
Hi,
I'm just beginning to search my father's family-The Wommack's. I'm from the Middle Georgia area, Sandersville, Washington County, GA. I am searching for info on my ggg grandfather Wiley Wommack b. about 1756 probably in Wake County, NC. Some info has him listed as the son of Albridgton Brittian Wommack b. abt 1730 in Isle of Wright, VA d. abt. 1817 in Moore Co. or Chatham Co. NC. We do have some info that says he was married to a Sarah Kendrick in Wake Co. NC but we have been unable to locate any other info on either one. My gg grandfather wasWilliam Wommack born Nov. 6, 1809 d. Sept.7,1878. He was married To Mary A.Brantley about 1832. Their son, William Stewart Womack was my great grandfather married to Corena Holley of South Carolina. If anyone has any info
on these Middle Georgia families, I would appreciate hearing from them. Thanks.


Wednesday, July 28, 1999 at 15:31:54 (PDT)
Carolyn Berdecia
jcbvsb@aol.com

I hope someone can help me. I have very little info to go on and it has proved to be very difficult trying to find my lineage. I am looking for Richard and Sarah(Owens) Womack. I know of one child--Agnefo, Agne Fo, or Agnes Womack. She married Louis Gibbens, Gibens, or Gibbons. Both Louis and Agnes were born in N.C. Their children are John C., Charles A., A H , Rutha. All born in NC except Rutha. She was born in Oct. 30, 1839. Died May 12, 1924. They could have had more children. Rutha Ann Gibens married Giles P. VAn Zandt. I know that Louis Gibens (?) was a trader and he was listen in the 1850 Census, Greene co.,Mo. Please contact me at jcbvsb@aol.com if you can help me. Thanks. Carolyn Berdecia


Thursday, July 29, 1999 at 18:37:30 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest.net
http://www.samsawadee.net/

OK y'all
As mentioned Roger has graciously did a bunch marriages and WWI draft stuff and it is available thru the above URL and Wonderings...On the listings, We would
appreciate your letting us know if you found a rellytive and whom and what state. WE would like to know our efforts are paying off for people. Anyone with lists, etc you would like posted; Give WGN and Mark a chance to use them..If he runs outta space he can send to me and I will post..regardless of the two different pages, we are all in this together...and WGN will remain your Womack home away from home on the net..I am merely a tag-a-long heah..a back-up to the Big Guy if needed...


Friday, July 30, 1999 at 05:33:29 (PDT)
Sam
samsawadee@uswest.net

Well, Well
ko-inky-dinks do happen!!
Rog and I have found out that we are double related
thru a line that married into the Womack's on his side;
and thru that same line came my great grandmother
marrying into the Womacks!

Any by the way Rog, there was a Pattillo married a Womack
in TX and I think that is on the TX stuff I have on the net.
Dubble Kuz', dubble truble??


Friday, July 30, 1999 at 17:59:02 (PDT)
Ronald W. Womack
Carwom@NTWS.net

Seeking to verify parents of John Abner Womack b. 12/15/1820 d. 03/27/1895 in Wise Co., Texas (dates taken from marker)who married Elizabeth Boykin b. 05/14/1828. They had six children, Robert Mansel Womack b. 11/08/1853 in Smith Co., Ms. d 01/10/1940 in Edna, Jackson Co., Tx., Francis Marion Womack b. 07/24/1854 in Smith Co., Ms. d. 11/19/1906, Mary Cordenia Womack b. 09/18/1856 in Smith Co., Mississippi d. 03/16/1936 in Columbus, Lowndes Co., Ms., John Alexander Womack b. 08/18/1859 d. 03/29/1884 Wise Co., Tx., Jesse Lee Womack b. 08/28/1866 in Raleigh, Smith Co., Ms. d 07/22/1932 Edna, Jackson Co., Tx. He was a medical doctor, and William Fletcher Womack b. 08/09/1869 d. 04/04/1884 in Wise Co.Texas. Some descendant charts show that his parents were Francis Marion Womack and Elizabeth Kennedy while other information shows his parents to be John N. Womack and Francis Coleman. Can anyone prove or disprove either of these. Any help will be appreciated


Saturday, July 31, 1999 at 08:06:47 (PDT)
Lori Tabor-Finch
jlelectrical@olg.com

I descend from Rachel Womack, the daughter of Abraham Womack, who married
William W. Tabor, Jr. Any information you can provided regarding Abraham Womack back would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


Saturday, July 31, 1999 at 10:17:18 (PDT)
Heather DeGrendele
hcdegrendele@yahoo.com

Hi!

I am trying to find more information about my great grandmother Gertrude C. Womack Clendening. She was born in Tennessee 4/10/1878 and died 8/9/1937 in Pennsylvania (I think). She was married 2/6/1929 to Broda D. Clendening.

Thanks!


Saturday, July 31, 1999 at 12:21:49 (PDT)
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

Heather,
Below is what I have on this line.

Descendants of Jim Womack
Generation No. 1

1. JIM WOMACK, son of BURGESS HARRELSON, son of JOHN BURGESS, son of ABNER, son of THOMAS sp Louvisa Rice, it's pretty much speculation from Thomas back. Jim or James was born October 02, 1845 in Warren Co., TN., and died January 05, 1900 in Nashville, TN.. He married AMANDA MOORE. She was born 1853, and died December 1898.

Children of JIM WOMACK and AMANDA MOORE are:
i. PEARL11 WOMACK, b. Abt. 1873, Warren Co., TN.; m. (1) STREET; m. (2) E.J. PENEGAR, May 14, 1893.
ii. FAULKNER WOMACK, b. Abt. 1875, Warren County, TN.; m. CONNIE BELLE NEWBY, December 26, 1897; b. May 29, 1876, Warren Co., TN.; d. July 29, 1926.
iii. GERTRUDE C. WOMACK, b. April 10, 1878, Warren Co., TN; m. BRODA D. CLENDENON, February 06, 1929; b. Abt. 1874.
iv. FLORA WOMACK, b. 1879, Warren County, TN.; m. GEORGE MASON.
v. BELLE B. WOMACK, b. May 17, 1880, Warren Co., TN; d. February 27, 1969, TN; m. DAN PARKHURST; b. Abt. 1875.
vi. ANNIE WOMACK, b. Abt. 1882, Warren County, TN.; d. September 1967, Brighton, AL.; m. OLIVER WILLINGHAM.
vii. MATTIE MAE WOMACK, b. Abt. 1885, Warren County, TN.; d. August 1909, Nashville, TN.; m. T.J. QUINN, 1902; b. 1881, Nashville, TN.; d. March 04, 1965.
viii. JESSE WOMACK, b. July 17, 1889, Warren Co., TN; d. July 1972, TN.
ix. ZOLA WOMACK, b. Abt. 1891, Warren County, TN.; d. 1895, Warren County, TN..
x. BURGESS HERMAN WOMACK, b. Abt. 1893, Warren County, TN.; d. 1899, Warren County, TN.


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