March 1999 Message Archive

Maybe this will help.It is from the booklet "The Browne Family of Virginia, North Carolina and Alabama" by Col.Woolsey Finnell, 1956."The first record we have of this family in North Carolina is the record of John Womack's will, made in Johnston(now

Sorry about the previous message, guess I hit a wrong button.Anyway, to continue about John Womack's will, made in Johnston (now Wake) county NC in 1764, which was probated in 1766.John Womack's children were:William, Mary Jane, Martha ,and Lucy. William married in NC and had a son, Benjamin, who married Anne ?. They had a son, William, who moved to Alabama, and a daughter, Lucy, who was born in 1769 and married Henry Browne about 1789.She died in Wake co Dec.3,1844.Records of Johnston County (now Wake)NC show that one Hardy Sanders administered on the estate of Lucy Womack's grandfather, John Womack.The will was made in 1764 and witnessed by Thomas Harrell and John Norris, and probated in 1766.

Got a small idea--everyone take a column--write the oldest William, etc list his children underneath as well as wife if known, you have at the top and keep on column by column until you exhaust your supply of Williams. Mebbe we can get to and agree on some time frames here??

Sam, what would this column thing accomplish? Is this in regard to William & Mary Jane? I don't think that listing every William will help. If anyone has information about a William prior to 1673/1700, let's hear from you. Cite your sources, primary or secondary, if you know them. We really need to sit down with some actual records here. There's is only so much you can do with speculation. I'm ready for a trip to Richmond. If only my family and boss would agree...:-) -Mark

Great network! Did you know that there are numerous Womacks in Emanuel County, Georgia? I am the daughter of Frank Randall Womack, my grandfather-Joseph Paul Womack,wife Annie Medlock Womack, and my great-grandfather was James Womack, wife Edny(?) Womack, ALL OF Emanuel County, GA. Could you help me establish my lineage? I'll find out the dates of birth and death of Joseph (g-father) and James Womack (ggrandfather) as soon as possible.

Regina, welcome and glad you found us! I'm sure you will be hearing from some of our members, if you haven't already. I would also suggest you check out our Researcher Index By Location. You can access it via the link above. Using this index, you can locate other Womack researchers researching their ancestors from a given country/state/county. I don't think we have an researchers for your particular county, there are quite a few for GA. Feel free to contact with queries. Good luck! -Mark

Mark, merely trying to get some adrenalin pumping! I am sure there are a lot of nice folks around Richmond that can take care of looking into some of these matters?

I don't think anyone has brought this up yet. Are we saying that the Abraham b ca 1644 is the same Abraham that d 1733 and left a will (Valentine Papers p 1798)? We realize that would make him almost 90 years old? Now, people could live to a ripe old age, no doubt, but we are talking about a frontier setting here. Life was rough. Indians were roaming the landscape. Unknown dangers behind every hill. We really think that someone could live to 90 in this environment? Are there any other indications that the 1733 Abraham is the same as the 1644 Abraham? -Mark

Regina, I have a James Womack that i am looking up he was born Abt:1810 in Halifax Co. NC and Died Bef: 1871 in Georga this is the notes that i have on him ( Halifax County, NC. Grantor deed Vol. 32, p. 168 - Abstract of deed, 8 Oct 1844, James Womack of Jones Co. GA. appts. Joseph(?) B. Rose, of Jasper Co. GA. his atty. to receive from Joseph Powell Atty. & ?? administrater of estate of Martha Womack, all my money, atc. due me from said estate.) I do not know if this will help this James is the son of Carter Womack, looking forward to hearing from you all

You know i have traveled the web in many ways;I have found people, right here on WGN that have placed my research on the web as theirs. Not only under Womack, but other names..to put it bluntly that pees me off!! I will not name any names, but the bluthering idiots will get no more from me..I have tried to give credit where due when I have received info from someone. If I havent yet,will get to it...and I apologize for the delay..but parasites, and if you consider me one,then so be; tell me..but I have found my family on the net under other peoples "own research" as if they have personally expended the energy and time etc to do so..because some seem to need the "esteem" and "excitement of discovery!" I know who you are and if you continue, will name here on WGN and so be it..keep me stuff off Family tree maker, Ancestry com and that crap.. I know know who y'all are.. you are parasites and not worthy of the Womack name!! I take info as found, or given, and do not take credit as as my own research. I put it out there for all. I do not think any one of you can say I have done otherwise..And, yes I am po'ed...I will continue my reasearch and will continue to accept and correlate info. but not openly..

Sam.... I do understand your concern. I do think that sometimes it's not their intention. I know when I first started gathering information I was just so excited about getting the information I didn't get sources for everything, and I didn't realize the importance of why you had to source everything. I wish I had. It's alot more difficult going back and sourcing everything I did way back when.... I do feel a little different about people using what I give them, if I'm their source fine if not at least it's getting out there for someone to prove improve or disprove either way I think we can benifit from it. So get your undies out of a wad and keep on truckin. we enjoy you just way to much. and you are an asset. I'm still trying to trying to digest the Homer W. info., so back to that later.

Joyce, that William Womack who m. Mary Allen, d/o James Allen & Elizabeth Sims, is s/o William Womack and Mary Gower. Needless to say, he ALSO has a William. Too many Williams.

I am searching for Mary R. Womack's parents and sibblings. Mary was born 10 April 1798, and married Thomas Jefferson in Jones Co., GA on 5 Dec 1814 (Jones Co. Marriage Bk A, Page 17. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I have information on the Jefferson line, if you are interested.

hey cuzins, i have been deep in the tombs of virginia lookin for the rascal that begat this bunch..my frustration runneth over! i have dropped other lines of inquiry to concentrate on ol william, bless his bones, and i know the someway, somehow, he will be found! what we find on the journey is spice for the feast...and cuzin Sam, please don't hide yer beaming light..there are always others who don't play fair,we too, know them by their deeds.. the stalwarts of this site are well known and most sincerely appreciated..thankee,yer womackin joeann b.

To all Womack researchers: Hello., I heard to day that LDS is on line at: http://lds-online.com/family.html, I think this is correct. Maybe every one already knew this. Pat.

I am new to the Womack line and am trying to verify the information I have and obtain more. Here's the main individuals I come through and any information on any of these families would be greatly helpful. I'll share what I have but it looks like you probably already have it. Here goes: Anne Womack b. ~1745 Virginia, m. Daniel Driskill, Sr., daughter of Alexander Womack, Virginia, m. Martha Alexander, son of Richard Womack II b. 1676 Virginia, m. Elizabeth Ann Puckett, son of Richard Womack b. 1655, m. Mary Puckett, son of William Womack b. 1607 Kent England, m. Mary Jane Allen. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Please e-mail me: fox@trilobyte.net. Heather

It has been a very long time since I've been here. Some of you have written me requesting info, and I've given what I can. One new news to note. For anyone who actually has me on any of their lines (HAHA) I am getting married August 14th to Victoria Lynn Bartlett, born June 21, 1978 in San Diego, CA. I'll be getting married by my bishop in the Chula Vista Stake center in Chula Vista, CA. I'm happy to be back, yet in the same breath, I won't be here often due to stresses of work and planning the wedding. It is taking a lot out of me. I know in the end it'll be great, and the day I have my temple wedding will be even better!

Heather, does your Driskill m Anne Womack, have a middle name? I have her married to Adam Driscoll, b. unkn in Ireland. Also, I note that you and others have Alexander's wife's last name as Alexander..in the past never queried this at all hav ejust left mine as an unknown last name..now, I would like to know where this last name is coming from..I have never seen any thing with her last name on it.

This is just a note to let you know that their are still Woomack's out here. Spelled with 2 "OO". With the help of WGN I have traced my Ancestors to the Arkansas Woomack's of the 1800's and have located family still living there. My son's and I must be the last of the line that spell our name Woomack. Why the family remaining in Arkansas droped 1 "O" in the mid 1920's I don't know but the name prior to that had 2 "OO". If any one out there knows I would be interested in hearing. Jim

Jim, for your information, there was another group of the Womacks that used the double "o" and they went to Australia and now use only the one "o" also..

Hello, everyone! This site is really great! I'm amazed at all the Womack's out there. It seems there are a lot of us here in Ga. but I haven't seen anything about Wayne county; which is where our family settled. Grandfather Loren Lee. It's also amazing how many things I've heard for years that I see popping up here. For example the Cherokee indian connection and that the family was from Tenn. before it came to GA. The most interesting recent bit is the fact that all my life I've been told I bear a resemblance to the actor James Gardner; and then I find out he has Womack roots! I'm not really interested in the ancient history but I would be interested in where this branch fits into the tree. My gf moved from Tenn. Coppertown area I think. His brothers and sisters Charlie, Pearl, Emma, and Grace one more I think? If you can tell me where we fit in I'd be interested to know. Thanks keep up the good work. Ronald L. Womack Jr.

I must post a correction to the message I posted 2/24/99. The Jesse W. Womack that married Martha Emanuel is NOT the same one that owned the store in Taylor, Texas. After traveling to the Taylor Library last week, I discovered that the Jesse W. Womack storeowner came to Taylor from Alabama in 1877. He was married to Aggie Yell of Montgomery, Texas in 1876. This is from the Taylor Sunday Press article in a Womack vertical file. Another article in the vertical file was a copy from a History of Texas book (date unknown) that indicates that Jesse W. Womack was born in Washington Co., Alabama in 1849, a son of ??(page is blurred on the side) and Nancy (Grimes) Womack. They came to Texas in 1845, joined the Confederate cause in 1863. This article states he died in 1875. Children of J.W. Womack and Nancy Grimes were , ??(blurred), John F., William, Fannie A., Jesse W., and James B. This Jesse W. Womack, son of Jesse W. and Nancy Grimes, was educated in Montgomery Co, Texas, and also attended a commercial school in New Orleans. where he graduated at age 21. In 1877 he opened a mercantile store in Taylor, in partnership with John Sturgis. In 1878 the store burned, was replaced by a one-story brick bldg, which was shortly torn down and replaced with a two-story brick building in 1889. (There is a picture of it in the vertical file which mentions an opera house operating on the top floor.) Jesse married Aggie Yell , daughter of Judge P. M. and Mary (Rodgers) Yell in 1876. Their children are listed as Cecil, Olga, Frank B., Jessie, a babe unnamed and one deceased when young. Again, this is NOT the Jesse W. Womack that married Martha Emanuel. He died in 1880 and they are both buried in Merrelltown Cemetery, Travis Co., Texas. I apologize for any confusion resulting from my assumption that the two Jesse's were the same. I am grateful for the many messages I have received on my Jesse W. Womack and will post more information as I learn it. BTW, while looking in "A History of Central Texas" by Mary Starr Barkley, I noted a Jesse Womack that donated land for a cemetery next to a church in Lee County, Texas, near Paige, Texas. I would guess this is a third Jesse in the area. It must have been a popular name.

Heather, I have some info on descendants of Anne (Womack) & Daniel Driskill. Some of them intermarried with my Rowan Co., NC Womack's. I will send via e-mail this weekend.

I grew up in Etowah County AL. I remember hearing my mother speak of "Aunt Frances Womack" (in fact I was named after her - my middle name) She was a sister to my grandfather, Richard R. Shields b. 1856 in Cherokee Co. AL. I have not found anything on her yet. If anyone has any information regarding her, please let me know. Thank you. Connie

Connie Fleming......would be interested indiscussing Fleming with you via E mail,

Open to any message or query. Need info on Oscar Clifton Womack Sr.. Born in Alabama died in Florida

Hi Folks. A funny thing happened right after my last message. My Internet provider burned down! They only just got back on line. I missed reading this site. Some really intriguing stuff since then. Sam is right - if Mary Jane was "the widow Allen" then there's a good chance Allen wasn't her maiden name. And like Mark I've wondered whether Abraham b.1644 lived to be 89 or 90. But how do we know he was born in 1644? Does that come from an assumption about how old he would be to own land in 1665? Do we have depositions about his age? And some good things from Robert E. Womack Moore showing the Womacks were in VA from the very early 17th century. If only we knew who they were!

Back to the age question. As I understand it you could be any age and be given land or inherit it. And the original definition of a tithable was any head of household age 16 or over.

David, glad to have you back. In some notes I have gathered concerning Abraham says: The date of his birth can be fixed approximately from court records. It is stated he was about 35 years old on 2 June 1679., and he is referred to as being about 42 years old in Aug. 1687. The earliest reference seems to be in the minutes of the coucil and general court at page 369, where it is stated under date of April 8, 1674, with difference between Abraham Womack and William Clarke about the estate of William Womack deceased.

You find the darndest things on eBay. The above url points to an auction of a Popeye colorforms set. I have reason to believe it was owned by one of our Womack cousins in TN: "You are bidding on one neat set of COLORFORMS. This is the 1959 King Features Syndicate set featuring Popeye the Weatherman. It is in the original box and appears that it was never used. Inside the box, you will find the Instruction Booklet and the Workboard. The Workboard has some minor peeling along the bottom edge. You can see this in the picture (in the areas where you can see the green background). The Colorforms are still mounted on their original sheets. There should be 61 pieces. Two pieces are missing (one snowflake and one blue dot). You can dress little Buddy for winter, spring, summer or fall. If you live in Tennessee, you can dress him for each season during any seven day period. It was 18 degrees over the weekend and in the 60's today. The box has warped some and two corners have scotch tape on them. The original price of 98 cents is stamped on one end. On the back, someone wrote a note - "Miss Edna Darlen Womack - June 30, 1962 - Age 4 yrs. and 5 mo. old - My Daddy got this for me. He gave me $6.00 to go to town with."" Don't know if anyone knows or cares, but I thought it was interesting. -Mark

I have a Jesse w. Womack that lived in burtbernett TX around late 1800's married to a Alice Jolly. Alice is buried in rosemont cementery wichita falls TX> Jesse in buried near witchawa fall TX. Children frances eveline womack, guss killed in war. hermon L., dollie, leeno, jesse. all womacks some were born in Alabama. cant locate them,HELP>>>

Came across Indiana State Library Genealogy Division (Indiana Marriages through 1850 while researching Althisers. While there, I searched for Womacks and came up with the following: Womack, Aaron H. m. Higgins, Mahala Womack, Almeda m. Greenlee, Alfred Womack, Charlotte T. m. McCahren, William C. Womack, Elizabeth m. Bless, William Womack, Hannah m. Davis, Michael Womack, James E. m Creek, Elizabeth Womack, John D. m. Turpin, Matilda Womack, John D. m. Barnes, Mary Womack, Lucinda m. Noblet, William Womack, Mahala B. m Higgins, Moses B. Womack, Malinda m. Kitchen, Clark Womack, Pamelia m. Keeler, Ira Womack, Parmelia A. m. Hargood, Anson Gave dates and County married.

Yikes! Very hard to read my previous message. Forgot it doesn't go in like it was typed. I will try again and place semicolons between marriages. Womack, Aaron H. m. Higgins, Mahala; Womack, Almeda m. Greenlee, Alfred; Womack, Charlotte T. m. McCahren, William C.; Womack, Elizabeth m. Bless, William; Womack, Hannah m. Davis, Michael; Womack, James E. m. Creek, Elizabeth; Womack, John D. m. Turpin, Matilda; Womack, John D. m. Barnes, Mary; Womack, Lucinda m. Noblet, William; Womack, Mahala B. m. Higgins, Moses B.; Womack, Malinda m. Kitchen, Clark; Womack, Pamelia m. Keeler, Ira; Womack, Parmelia A. m. Hargood, Anson.

Can anyone tell me where to look to find documentation of the families/family members of Alexander's, Richard II's, Richard I's, and William Womack's families? My records are getting kinda sketchy. Any ideas let me know. Heather

Does anyone have information on Womacks of Fulton County(Sandy Springs)prior to 1930's. If so please send me what you have.

Mark, the colorforms you were talking about on E-Bay did belong to our East Tennessee Womack family. As a matter of fact, they belonged to my first cousin, Darlene Womack, daughter of G. W. and Cleo Smith Womack. GW & Cleo are both deceased, but (Edna) Darlene still lives in Hamilton County, TN..

I want to thank Mark and MIWomack for finding my queries on the various surname boards and getting me into the web for Womack news. My mat. grandmother was Lillian Iola Womack Fallaw(18Sep1872-23Mar1953) from Georgiana, Butler Co.,Ala. She was the oldest child of Lewis Green Womack and Sarah C. Bryan. LGW packed his family up and headed west before 1909 leaving Lillian & family in Ala. Would like to make further contact with cousins..have access to family pictures from visits in 1925 era.

Roger and Mark: Thank you for answering my message. I love WGN. First of all, after doing some digging up in my own back yard (that is a relative, Fred Womack), I have a discrepancy in the lineage. According to a family bible and land deeds, Thomas Hardy Womack is actually Thomas "Han" Womack, b1835,d.1854. His wife Rebecca remarried a ? Barnhill and therefore, Ellen Womack b1868, d.? is actually Ellen Barnhill. My cousin also has documentation that Thomas "Han" Womack's father was named Thomas H. Womack b.11/15/1791 and d1837. This Thomas H. was married to Eleanor Jones. Now, Thomas H.'s father was William Womack, and all I have on him is a death date of 1830. Need-less-to-say, I'm stumped. Can you guys help? I can give you the more current lineages of James Madison Womack b.6/3/1855 d.10/7/1923. Thanks again for all your help!!! Regina Womack Paul

Got this off of a mailing list that I subscribe to. It might pertain to the Abraham Womack that got 2/3 of William Womack's estate. It might suggest he was a son as opposed to a brother? I need to look at the records and the laws of the time to have a real opinion, but here is what was posted: "DOWER: An estate for life, which the law gives the widow in the third part of the lands and tenements, or hereditaments of which the hushand, was solely seised, at any time during the coverture, of an estate in fee or in tail, in possession, and to which estate in the lands and tenements, the issue, if any, of such widow might, by possibility, have inherited. Watk. Prin. Con. 38; Litt. 36; 7 Greenl. 383. Vide Estate in Dower. This is dower at common law. In this sense it is the land a widow received if the husband died intestate. It was not a right, note that the definition says "might, by possiblity". When a man left a will usually the widow was only given the right to live on the land during her life or until her remarriage at which time the land passed to the

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Connie, Roger sent me this information regarding the ColorForms. Seems to match what you posted:

I think this is the Ebay Edna # 2.
Descendants of George Washington Womack
Generation No. 1

1. George Washington10 Womack (John Pleas9, William R.8, John C.7, James
Alexander6, Alexander5, Alexander4, Richard3, Richard2, William1) was born
1922, and died August 01, 1988 in Tennessee. He married Cleo Grant in
Tennessee.

Notes for Cleo Grant:
Chattanooga Free Press
Sun., Nov. 2, 1997
Cleo Grant Womack of Soddy-Daisy died Saturday, Nov. 1, 1997, in a local
hospital. She was 78. She was of Methodist faith. Survivors include one daughter, Darlene Smith, Soddy-Daisy; four sisters, Mae Green, Dode City, Fla; Kay Winn, Concorde, NC; Pearl Lecroy, Soddy-Daisy; Beulah Hughes, Soddy-Daisy; three brothers, Denton Smith, Signal Mountain, Andy Smith, Texas, Henry Smith, Goshen, Ind; and one grandchild. Services will be Monday at 3:30 pm in the Williamson & Sons Funeral Home with the Rev. Mark Clark officiating. Burial will follow in Hamilton Memorial Gardens. Visitation will be today after 2 pm in the funeral home.

Child of George Womack and Cleo Grant is:
2 i. Edna Darlene11 Womack

So, would she like her ColorForms back? :-)

-Mark

January 1999 messages move to the message archive. You can use the above link to access them and all other archived messages.

I'm behind in processing new WGN members (as usual), so my thanks to all of those patient folks out there. And I'm still working on that early Womack/"Where the heck is William?" article.

-Mark

I'm going to try a little experiment.

1) I'm usually behind in getting new members into the researcher index.
2) New members ususally have a lot of detail to mention about their family, details that don't make it to the message page easily.
3) I can't help everyone make their connections. As much as I love it when it happens, I don't have enough time.

So, I have set up a WGN New Member Alert mailing list. This mailing list is meant for the 'serious' Womack researchers that have a lot of information and are willing to share it with potential cousins. If you want to participate, send an email message to wgnnewmemberalert@womacknet.com with the word 'SUBSCRIBE' in the subject. Once you are subscribed, you will receive a reply letting you know.

We'll see how it works out. I reserve the right to remove anyone from the mailing list at any time for any reason. This is a simple group address that I am maintaining through my email program (Claris Emailer), so it can't handle a ton of traffic. If it gets too crazy, I may have to discontinue it. As I said, this is an experiment.

-Mark

Mark, thanks for your response concerning my cousins COLORFORMS...I did bid on that item, and lost...Oh well, things happen..Also, thank you for posting the info from Roger, although it is info I provided to him..You had no way of knowing that, and I appreciate the thought..

See message Sept.11, 1998. Have new email address. Thanks

I've been reading with interest the messages about the age of Abraham when he died in 1733. I don't have my records in front of me so this is just off the top of my head but I've long thought that the Abraham of the 1733 will was Abraham Jr. For one thing, there is a 1712 deed from Abraham Womack Jr. to his son Thomas for land on Swift Creek and Coldwater Run. I think this was the land that Thomas (died 1734) lived on. Now this Thomas who was supposed to have married Mary Farley has always been identified as the son of Abraham Sr. and was supposed to have been born abt 1665. At least some of Thomas's children were minors when he died (his son Abraham died Lincoln County NC 1801) so I believe Thomas was much younger than 70 when he died in 1734. One more thing is that Mary Farley was suppposed to have been born in 1707. It would be highly unusual for a man to marry a woman 42 years his junior and father so many children. By the way, this raises the issue of whether Mary Farley? Womack was really a Farley. She made a Chesterfield will in 1750 for which I've never seen a date of proof. She is mentioned in John Farley's will of 1754 so it is possible she was still alive but I don't know for sure.

I am seeking information (Birth,Marriage, and Death) on Anne Womack who married Daniel Driskill about 1765 in Lunenburg or Bedford County. I beleive Anne Womack was the second wife of Daniel. Daniel married Agnes Hawkins 9 Sep 1788 in Lunenburg County. It is also believed that Daniel Driskill was also married to a daughter of Thomas Watkins.

Looking for: Thomas Wamack m. Ludemia Jane Gullion; Thomas was born about 1842 in AL/KY?? He married in VA. 1870 he was in Wayne County WV. I am looking particularly for his parents. Family info (may or may not be reliable)includes:
1. He was born in AL and left after killing a slave
2. Changed name from Womack to Wamack after #1
3. Brother to Robert Womack Cripple Creek Colorado
4. Was born in ship coming over from England
5. Middle name Henry or Benton (census lists as L)
I am at a complete loss on him. Have been trying to find him for about 10 years now. Please email me if you have any info. Thank you Susan

I am the granddaughter of Ruth and Colvin Womack (Prince Edward Co?, VA) just beginning to search my geneology. I live in Richmond VA and was just surfing through name meanings when I came upon this site. I don't even know where to start.

Ruth has two sisters, and two brothers: Margaret, Merle and Billy, Roy, respectively. Colvin had/has numerous brothers and sisters. I was too young to know many of them. I remember hearing that either Ruth or Colvins' father was adopted, but I'm not sure. This is all of the information that I have. I do not know dates of birth, places, etc.

Can anyone help me get started? Please email response. Thank you.

I've done some more checking since my last message and found a death date of 23 July 1760 for Mary Farley Womack, wife of Thomas. So she made her will in 1750, her father made his in 1754 and she died after that. I'm satisfied with the Farley connection. It also convinces me more than ever that Thomas could not have been born in 1665 or anywhere near. Another problem, though. Assume for a moment that Thomas was indeed the son of Abe Jr. and born say 1685-1690. He marries a woman (a girl actually) born in 1707-8 and they manage to have ten kids by the time of his death in 1733, when she would have been 25-26, possible but cutting it close arithmatically. Either Mary was a real child bride or was born a little earlier. It also means they didn't take much of a break from producing offspring

I just wanted to let everyone know that due to server problems, I have changed servers, also changed E-mail address to: mlo99@bellsouth.net...

If you find any links that are broken on my pages, I am working on it now, as I have to move everything around. Hope to have it all fixed SOON! :)
Mark, would you change my e-mail here for me?? Thank You... Markie

I am the (4th)great granddaughter of Thomas A. Womack and Louvisa Rice Womack. Thomas was born in 1743 @ Prince Edward Co. Va. They married about 1763 supposedly in Halifax Co or Prince Edward Co.They moved to Burke Co., N.C. @ Womack Fort. Thomas died in N.C. between 1781 and 1790. Louvisa was on the Rutherford Co., census with 6 son in 1790. She was in Kentucky with her youngest son David and his wife Esther in 1810. I have almost all of the generations of all of the children of Thomas and Louvisa (thanks to some generous people I have found along the way and would certainly like to give credit to them). What I need is the connection from Thomas backwards. I have lots of information but nothing that I can string together for sure.I would really appreciate anything that anyone has that might help. I have copied all of the Womacks on the wft and sat and compared and studied until I have a pretty good idea of all the Williams,Richards, Thomas's, & Abrahams.Sincerely Lenda

in addition to my previously posted message:

I have more info regarding my genealogy:

Ruth Womack's mother was Myrtle "Burtee" Bailey. Colvin "Mac" Womack's father was Hunter Marshall Womack. Still not exactly sure where they were born. They would be my great-grandparents. I will be 30 next month, and I'm not sure how old they were when they died. Many of our family records were lost during a flood, according to my mother.

Ruth and Colvin also have two daughters, Nikki and Katherine "Kitty" Womack.

Again, any help would be greatly appreciated! I want to learn more about my ancestors! Thank you.

I'm researching the "other" Womacks of Virginia: Henry Womack (b. Abt 1625) and wife Phoebe Rondall of Accomack Co. (They were originally from Massachusetts.) Also their son George and wife Elvira Lansing and grandson Daniel (b. 1678) and wife Sarah Listen (Daniel and Sarah lived in Augusta Co., Va.). There are many references to these families in the LDS IGI database, but little else in the "standard" references. I have been told of these references:

The Womack & Allied Families by Thomas pub. 1932, p. 154
Early Settlers of Mass. by Stull pp19-33
Vital Records of Massachusetts by Stiles Vol 3 through 9

but I have not been able to find any of these three publications. Any information would be appreciated.

Robert, your MA Womack's seem pretty early on in the settlement of the colonies. Do you know about what time they would have settled in VA from MA? And there is a mention of MA Womack's in Cherry Grove by Egbert Hudson, but there are no real details if I remember correctly. -Mark

Family Tradition:..... In a letter written by Fannie Mae Doria she says; Larkin (my gggrandfather) told his children, all Womacks of Virginia were related and had descended from 2 (not 5 or 1) Womack brothers whose families "had died off" so they came to the colonies to make a new start. I wonder if the Womack brothers were William the father of the Henrico Co., Womacks and Henry Womacke who settled on the Eastern Shore (Accomac Co.. Some genealogist of today swear Henry was a Warwick---but this I know, he did business with Wm. Watters a planter in Barbados under the name of Henry Womacke. This Henry was not in VA, apparently , 1624--- but was at Accomac 9apr1653 when his son George was born". There was a Henry Womack and wife Phoebe Rondoll of MA., who had a son named George b 9 apr1653 Accomac Co., VA., m Elvira Lansing b 1656 Middlesex Co., MA d/o of George Lansing and Mary Afton. The children of George and Elvira Lansing were all born in Accomac Co., VA; Daniel b 1678 m Sarah Listen; Jerry b 1680 m Emily Payson; Martha b 1861 m George Todd; Mary b 1682 m William Lerner; Henry b 1684 m Sarah Scranton; David b 1686 m Mary Thomas; Phoebe b 1687 m John Creighton; John b 1689 m Eleanor Huntley. The children of David and Mary (Thomas) Womack were; Nicholas b 1710 m Phoebe Nerbe; Tilley b 1712 m Jonathan Upsall and Eliza Ann m James Pitkin. Reference: The Womack and Allied Families by Thomas pub. 1932, p 154 Early Settlers of Mass. by Stull pp 19-33. Vital Rec. of Mass. by Stiles Vol 3 thru 9. I have not seen these publications either. Roger

Thanks, Roger, for the information. Actually, the LDS IGI contains almost all the information you mentioned, and their data shows the migration of the Daniel Womack family across the Bay to Gloucester Co., then on to Augusta Co. in about 1705. I have a (small) web page of the descendants of Henry Womack (as given by the LDS IGI) at the URL:

http://members.aol.com/EGenealogy/hwomack.html

For you people who view the page, my interest is in Eleanor Womack, daughter of Daniel and Sarah. Eleanor married a Thomas Weaver of Halifax Co.

Robert, thank you for posting your homepage. At least I know where some of those early Womacks went that I couldn't find a home for. Recently I have been asked about Eleanor sp Thomas Weaver who died in Halifax. I hope we can find others seriously researching this line because I'll just bet we get some descendants who have been attached to one that belongs to the other, in some of these early more confusing lines. I wonder if Henry actually immigrated to MA., or migrated there from Virginia and met his wife then came back to Virginia. The possibility of 2 brothers coming to the colonies per my gggrandfather Larkin's oral history and others may have some credibility. Interesting.

Roger wrote: "I wonder if Henry actually immigrated to MA., or migrated there from Virginia and met his wife, then came back to Virginia."

The IGI says (if we want to believe it) that Henry was born AND married in Mass., but his first son George was born in Accomack Co.

I suppose he could have gone down to Virginia, back to Mass. to get married, then returned to Virginia where his first son was born - but that seems a bit unlikely. (Again, assuming the IGI is correct)

As you know I did a bit of haranguing lately about some unauthorized submissions to WFT..I know the culprits, and have contacted Broderbund about deleting the info and if they want, reissuing the CDs to those who bought them.
To those of you who were offended, I truly apologize..I do not mind you using info I find and post in your personal histories..but WFT is not personal, they sell info they get for free..think about it..how much money and time have you expended getting where you are, then let some bloody company make money off it.
My real pleasure is sharing what I have and what I find with cousins of all walks of life anywhere..the money I spend, and the time is worth helping someone find a granny or grandpa somewhere..an unk or aunt, a cuz, not to make money....
Think, again, the real purpose of WGN. That is to further WOMACK research amond WOMACK descendants around the world; pleasure not profit..
Let me relate something..I recently, thru a Barnes and Noble search, located an out of print book on one of my family lines running form 979ad thru 1977..that book was in a little bookstore in a small town in OK.. Luckily, I have a cuz that lives in that lil Okie town..she purchased the book for me, and must have drove a hard bargain for she paid about $25 less that the price on the net, and after she reads it, I get it for me..I will share that with cuz' in that line, no charge...
Again, I offer my humble apologies to any I have offended that are innocent..to those whom I know are not....shame on you!!

I am trying to determine if a Rachel Womack, assumed daughter of one of the
early "Abraham Womacks" ever actually existed. And if she did, did she in
fact marry into the TABOR family of Virginia/N. Carolina? Any "Rachel
Womacks" will be helpful!

Have you ever put your ring finger of your left hand on the key above the tab key, it takes off making this dotty line. For the past year I thought my hard drive was ready to go, I would be typing and that line would take off, it don't take much to make me happy. (you might be a redneck if) Anyway concerning the previous message about Rachael it would be helpful if we had an approximate date to narrow her down.

ROFL...Roger, I MUST be a redneck!!! Been there done that!!!

(posted by Markie from my guestbook)

I'm trying to find my Great -Grandfathers name which turns out to be Jacob Moore Womack. All I know is that he was originally from Miss ssippi and moved to the Alexandra LA. area. I have no dates for when he moved or his birth date. His wife (My great grandmother was named Elizabeth Peters Womack.) I hope there is someone out there that can help me find more info. Thanks a bunch

Markie, I have been in touch with Tracie some time back. Jacob was the oldest of five children of Alfred G. Womack and Sarah McLemore. son of Jacob and Keziah Beard. She is suppose to be getting back with more info in her line, still waiting.

Roger and Markie -
I just saw your posted messages. I haven't been able to do much research lately. I've been busy with work and had a death in the family.
I believe tho...My Jacob Moore's father is Albert G. Womack. He is listed in a family bible as A.G.B and I am told he is listed that way in the census. I did some searching about 2 months ago at the Arkansas History Commission and found an A.G.B. Womack listed in Jackson Parish LA. I believe it was the 1870 or 1880 census. As soon as I can I will be getting back to researching him and I will let you guys know what I find.
Tracie

William George Womack, b.11/7/30, d. 11/9/97, son of Walker Karl Womack b.Home, Kansas, d. Long Beach, CA AND Beatrix MacMorran, b. Illinois, d. Long Beach, CA. Married Melinda S. Oliver, 7/3/85. One daughter, Gena L. Womack, b. 9/16/70.

Melinda....The SSDI list Walter's birthdate as 25sep1890 and died Nov1976 in Long Beach, CA. Beatrix's b 13feb1894 died Nov1982 Long Beach, CA., if we could get back a couple more generations we may be able to tie them in.

My gg-grandfather Levi Womack m. Polly Ann Baker in 1834 in Shelby Co., IL. A short time later they moved to MO. (1840 census of Taney Co.). Levi d. before 1850 and Polly Ann returned to IL. When Polly Ann d. the children were sent to live with relatives. Some ended up in McDonald Co., MO. Levi is said to be the son of William and Rebecca Parker Womack. Two other Womacks, Joseph and Clement, found in the 1840 Taney Co. census are said to be brothers, as is Green Womack b. abt 1782 who resided in Shelby Co., IL and is said to have later moved to Iowa. I am looking for comfirmation of Levi's parents and any other info that may be available.

Re Malinda: If it is Walter Karl Womack sp Beatrix rather than Walker Karl Womack I do have him and Beatrix as the son of Stephen Maddox Womack; son of John Watson Womack sp Elizabeth Maddox; son of Massanello Womack.

Tracie and Roger,
I didn't connect A.G.B.Womack, with Albert G. Womack.. I'm sorry. I know A.G.B.!!! From Jessie Moorehead's manuscript. I posted Tracie's query from my guest book.. hoping she would get help here. Sure enough, the Womack's to the rescue.

A few years ago I was researching at the Copiah Co. Courthouse, and came across a Keziah Womack's will. I have wished ever since that I had copied it also. Is she the mother of A.G.B. Womack, and wife of Jacob Womack??

I have a copy of Keziah Womack's will, dated 7 day of March 1864. I also have a copy of the guardianship of the children, A B Womack,Sarah, Jacob M, Jefferson D, Mary and David Womack, dated 7 of May 1860. We got it last May when we were in Copiah Co. I sent a copy to Tracie. Willing to share.

I went to the library yesterday to follow up on some research for the article, and I happened to find a copy of Adventurers of Purse and Person VIRGINIA 1607-1624/5 that was mentioned by Robert E. Womack Moore earlier. It has the reference to the letter of William Byrd I of Westover that mentions that a Womack (and others) was killed by Indians. The reference is to a book edited by Marion Tinling, The Correspondance of the Three Williams Byrd of Westover, Virginia, 1684-1776. If anyone runs across this book, please let me know. I'd like to see if there happen to be any other references. -Mark

Well, I was doing a little puttering around the web, actually checking to see if there was any unclaimed property down in Florida from my late grandfather's estate. I'm not sure what you Womacks down in Florida are up to, but about 100 of you have misplaced some property that the state would like to give back to you. 8-) LOL! Actually, looks like Uncle David did finally manage to track down Grandad's last stupid little account - so that's probably the last time I'll drift by that way. Most of the states have those databases up on line, BTW. Happy hunting!

I want to start by giving my thanks and praise to all the help that we have gotten from our fist message last month. I have found more information than I would have ever expected that fast. I am still trying to sort some of this information out at this time but I have alot of information on the Dorsey Bristo Womack's child George Willard Womack if any one is interested in this information. We will be traveling this summer to confirm some of the dates. I still have some very confusing information on the George Washington Womack information that I have received so far. Is anyone sure of how many children he had I have found I think 12 but some say that there may have been more or less. I would really like to also tell you how much help you all have been and very quick on the responses. Thanks again

Looking for information on Homer Eugene Womack of Wickes, AR. Died around 1928 (suicide). He was my Grandfather's father, and my Grandfather (now 84) would like to have a tombstone placed on his grave, but he can not remember his birthdate or deathdate. This would mean alot to our family. Have had no luck locating any death record. thank you marcia

Looking for information on Homer Eugene Womack of Wickes, AR. Married Mary Evaline Commander. Died around 1928 (suicide). He was my Grandfather's father, and my Grandfather (now 84) would like to have a tombstone placed on his grave, but he can not remember his birthdate or deathdate. This would mean alot to our family. Have had no luck locating any death record. thank you marcia

Some additional info I forgot to put on my 1st message. Homer Eugene Womack married Mary Evaline Womack.

ABRAHAM WOMACK, (Senior?) of Virginia. I was at the library a few days ago &
found a book reference to the above Womack, c.1660. It stated that there was a
good horse racing track at the settlement of "Bermuda Hundred" & that Mr. Womack
and another Gentleman engaged two horses in a race! Neither of the owners rode
the steeds, and one of the jockeys was a "servant". The book states that Mr.
Womack was a horse racing enthusiast & that on another occasion a group of men
were at Mr. Womack's residence when a 'racing controversy arose'. This second race did not involve one of Mr. Womack's horses but he appears to have been present. The controversy finally would up in a lawsuit. As it turned out one of the horses did not start the race or cross the finish line, but the other horse did. Then the owner of the second horse claimed that he had "won the stake" by default , because his horse did in fact RUN & CROSS the FINISH LINE FIRST! Therefore, being the winner & he being entitled to the proceeds of the original bet!!! How the court ruled, it does not say. This Mr. Womack appears to be my
Grandfather, many generations removed & I'll bet he just may be one of
yours!

Indeed, the Abraham you mention is probably the Abraham b ca 1644. Previous research has said he was the son of William the Immigrant, but with all of the recent research/controversy this is probably not correct. Some think he may be the son of an elder Richard Womack. Me, I'm agnostic and reserve judgement until I see more information. You can find records of the lawsuit you mentioned in the Womack Henrico Co records in The Valentine Papers edited by Clayton Terrence. I would be very interested to learn what book gave you all of this information. Do you have a title & author? -Mark

I recently made a visit the to genealogical library in Salt Lake City, UT. Found lots of information verifing some the Womacks and the Puckett families that marry in. Will be glad to share what I found. Drop me a line if you're interested.

Heather

Mark in regard to the horse race, it took place July 1678, the owners were Abram Womack and Richard Ligon, one rider was Joseph Tanner a servant and the other was Thomas Cocke. Abram Childers was to act as starter. This came from the book "The Ligon Family in America", no idea the author or pub. I got the few pages with Womack's on them about four years ago. There is a referce to Elizabeth Womack (pg R1- Martha McDaniel Thompson) marrying Timothy Harris, the Ligon book. There are some commets about buying and selling land, and the neigbors around them. Need more information let me know.

Another interesting eBay item:

Railroad Pass
Kansas City Southern 1937-40

Railroad------The Kansas City Southern
Employee----Mr. O. B. Womack
Pass#----------B 6807
Material------ Thin stock
Condition---- Very good
Color----------white
Comments--"Port Arthur Route"

So, now we can track where ancestors went and and what time. :-) "O. B. Womack", now I bet that is not a very common Womack name. Any ideas? Looks like me may have worked for the railroad. -Mark

Mark on the railway pass!!
Mebbe our Oscar B Womack,perhaps??

Mark, I pulled a few out of the database that should have been alive then during that period.
Ora Byrd Womack....b abt., 1892
Orville Benjamin Womack... 18dec1916
Oscar B. Womack.... 10apr1895 Sam's Oscar)
Oscar Benton Womack... abt., 1880
Otis M.B. Womack... 14apr1920

The above page has some history on the Kansas City Sourthern. An excerpt below. Note the Port Arthur, TX. Roger, any of this O. B. Womack's in TX? Of course, maybe Oscar B. was taking a trip to TX...

"The Kansas City Southern Railway Company, 1,711 miles long, is not one of the pioneer lines that opened vast areas of virgin land. Rather, the railway was built after the major settlement of the Midwest, as a means of marketing the region's fast increasing productivity. But the building of the Kansas City Southern did result in many new cities and towns, including Port Arthur, Texas, now one of the nation's largest ports. The railway also tapped important resources in the six MidwesternSouthwestern States through which it originally passed Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Louisiana and Texas. The recent merger with MidSouth Corporation now includes the States of Mississippi, Alabama and Tennessee. This area provides much of the world's petroleum, chemicals, major shares of America's zinc, lead and bauxite, together with an extensive production of coal, natural gas, timber, livestock and grain."

Mark, everywhere but Texas, maybe on the route though.

Ora Byrd Womack....b abt., 1892 ..............................AR
Orville Benjamin Womack... 18dec1916.....................IL
Oscar B. Womack.... 10apr1895 (Sam's Oscar).........TN
Oscar Benton Womack... abt., 1880.........................MO
Otis M.B. Womack... 14apr1920 ...............................KY

I'm looking for the parants or siblings of RACHEL CARLAIN WOMACK
b. 23 Sep 1838 m. 2 Feb 1858 to William Kyle BURNHAM. Thanks

My grt gr father, John R. Womack b. ca 1855 Ky and grt gr mother , Virginia Ann Spencer b.Oct 28 1863 York PA or Tn ran off to marry. She was 14. They came to TX 1877 in covered wagon . I think her father was J. G. Spencer. b. PA d. VAHer parents d. when Virginia was young. She was given to a Mrs Gill. Need info before 1877. John's son had a record number of children--at least 24. That included several twins and one or more triplets. Thank you Carol

Just a note about a new service being tested out on the web. The LDS have put the IGI on-line in testing mode.
http://32.96.111.13/default.asp
BUT, and this is a major major BUT, unfortunately, they have not cleaned it up at all. I have unfortunately always told my relatives to avoid the IGI like the plague, because so many of my lines are incorrect in there. So, as a test, since I know that this is a completely messed up line, I entered in Mansel Womack, my ancestor. Sure enough, about 10 Mansels pop up, all but one of which attempt to refer to my Mansel (the other belonging to Mansel Nolan Womack) 1 or two of those is correct, the rest are wrong. For example, Mansel m. Sarah Rogers in Greene Co., GA this is one of the correct ones - two of the incorrect ones try to put that marriage in North Carolina. WRONG!
So, I have a terrible feeling, that like the Family Tree Maker files that now seem to be set in stone, this is going to lead to more trouble than putting the thing on-line is worth. So, when it hits the genealogy news that it's available, and everyone gets all excited about accessing it, personally, I'd continue to avoid it. Just my opinion....Ann

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