June 1998 Message Archive


Date: Jun 1, 1998; 17:21
Carolyn Powell
powell@blueridge.net

While researching other families, I came across a couple of "Womack" items and jotted them down. They may have already been posted, but didn't feel like going back to read all of the queries! "Rowan Co.,NC Index, Loose Estate Papers (1750-1927)", June Clodfelter Watson, Salisbury, NC: Loose Estate Papers, #69, pg 156: The namaes of the following WOMACKS were listed: James 1822; John 1827; Matilda J. 1911; Richard 1824; W. T. 1885. "Marriage & Death Notices", Southern Christian Advocate (1861-1867, Vol II, pg 170, Brent Holcomb: Under Issue of 1 September 1864 was a Lt. A. S. Womack, 45th GA Volunteers who was killed near Marietta, GA on 15 June 1864. He was 24 years old. Hope somebody can use this info.


Date: Jun 1, 1998; 21:58
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net

Hi Gang, Samsville hit 504 hits since April 26th 98.. I thank ye fer yer support. BUT, please dont leave query type stuff in the guest book..yes let me know ye were theah and what ye think;; BUT, remembah, Mark set this thang up heah fer us all to grindout cuzzies with each othah..I do not want to diminish from that. I am merely a "storage" area so to speak..the real action between all is heah on WGN!! Keep supportin WGN, and Mark, in its and his endeavors, OK?? Ain't nuthin like it out theah!! We got the Bestest!!


Date: Jun 2, 1998; 21:55
Mary W. Glenn
mwg914@aol.com

I just returned from a research trip to Ste. Genevieve County, MO. and I wanted to let everyone know about the great information that I located there on Wm R. Womack. I would like to say that I finally discovered in which family he belonged, but alas no such luck. However, I did find that the estate of LEVI B. WOMACK that WM R. served as administrator was his BROTHER. There had been many of us who wondered who he was. I also discovered that WM R served as a Private in Capt Rozel's Company of Alabama Volunteers for the Florida War. This was the reason that he was given Military Land in 1852. The second Florida War took place in 1832-1843. I already knew that Wm R. had seven children born in ALA between the years of 1830 and 1844. Of course, I still haven't definitely located in which county in ALA although I suspect it to be Jackson Co. ALA> I also located a copy of WM R.'s will in the courthouse. I was delighted to be able to find that. I do not know if Levi B died in the Civil War or where he is buried. He died May 1864. I have heard of a story that Francis Marion Womack, son of WM R., buried a relative on Lookout Mtn after the battle there. I hope this helps others to help those of us descended from Wm R. to locate in which family Wm R. and Levi B. belong.


Date: Jun 3, 1998; 00:41
Sergeant First Class Shaun Harniss
sfc_shaun_harniss_at_hfpose@ftdetrck-ccmail.army.mil

[ATTENTION: I received the email this evening and made sure I posted it immediately. I have responded to Mr. Harniss with the article that was published in the Dec 1959 Womack Genealogy newsletter. I'm sure there is more we can do! Is anyone in contact with any of Pfc Bryant Womack's living relatives? Please directly email Mr. Harniss with any information you have. Please CC me on any email as well. Let's make a difference! Thanks! -Mark] Dear Sir, I am looking for information and pictures of Bryant Womack, the Medal of Honor winner. I work for the Transition Office for the New Womack Army Medical Center and we are preparing the brochures and information packets and want to include as much information about PFC Womack as we can to inform and educate the soldiers and family member of today's Army about the heros of our past. Thank You for any assistance you can provide me. Sergeant First Class Shaun Harniss, Womack Army Medical Center Transition Office, (910)432-2215/2219/3065


Date: Jun 3, 1998; 13:29
Ann Lindsey Crumpton
Ann_Crumpton@tamu-commerce.edu

Has anyone communicated with B. J. Mason who posted this message? >Date: Apr 3, 1998; 01:10 >BJ Mason >bjmason@shore.intercom.net >[posted by webmaster] James Wammack, 1835-1879 Weldon, NC (Halifax Co) >was my g/g/g/gf (also spelled Wommack in later years). Be glad to trade >info on my research. Thanks, BJ Mason" I have sent him 3 or 4 messages. They have not been returned, nor have I heard from him. I am almost sure that this James is in my line and I would really like to exchange information with him. Perhaps he has another address by now. Any help would be appreciated. Ann in NE Texas appreciate


Date: Jun 3, 1998; 17:54
Ann McDonald
71210.2533@compuserve.com

I apologize for this being such a long message, I tried to email Dianne, who asked about it, but it bounced - the subject is the Elizabeth Puckett? who m. Richard Womack Jr. Note that this was my Puckett notes from only ONE file of Womack stuff. There is more lurking out there somewhere. I haven't worked my way this far up the tree - I'm still trying to find Kinchen Womack's wife's name - and Martha Mitchell Womack's parents - so, here's a place to start checking, anyway. So, trying to round up a few sources here - "A Southern Branch of the Lawrence Family" by William Lawrence Pritchett - chapter 4- The Womack and Puckett Family - summary - John Puckett Sr b. abt. 1616 Dorchester England, came to VA 1637, headright of John Groves. m. Anne Jefferys (d. bef. 1679) 6 known children - 1) John Puckett Jr. m1 Jane Treble m2 Elizabeth Allen (yep, one of them, too.) 2) William Puckett Sr. 1655-1723 m. Anne Womack 3) Mary Puckett m. Richard Womack Sr. 4) Thomas Puckett m. Mary Womack. 5) Ruth Puckett 6) Elizabeth Puckett So, at this point the question is now - Richard Womack Jr.m. Elizabeth or Elizabeth Ann Puckett, according to most sources - whose daughter was she? Now, first we ask how do we know she was a Puckett? At this point, we have "tradition says she was his first cousin." Ok so much for that. The Lawrence family book gives her parents as couple 2 - William and Anne Womack Puckett. William died in Henrico Co., his will proved May 1723, listed in Henrico Deeds 1714-1718, p. 48. I haven't seen it. But, I am wondering why they would name a kid Elizabeth Ann Puckett, and another Elizabeth Puckett (m. John Westbrook) Not only that, she'd be a double first cousin, not just a first cousin. Notes from Dempsey Monroe Kemp - passed down through at least four hands to get to me - written over 50 years ago and slightly messed up when it comes to my own Mansel Womack family. Dempsey said.....Richard II m. Elizabeth dau. of Richard Puckett (not one of the above 6 children, but he doesn't say how many children he thought John and Ann Puckett had or what he thought this supposed Richard's relation was to the Womacks) but gives as his reference for this as "Henrico Co. Records pages 716-717"


Date: Jun 4, 1998; 00:45
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net

HI, Just received some Womack marriages from AL in the mail today--know not complete but at least some thing On this William R and Levi B thang..there was a William R married in Benton Co AL Dec 30, 1847 to a Lucretia Taylor--if he had chillun earlier this prob isnt him unless a 2nd wife...There was an LB Womack married Mary Rodden in Jackson Co on Apr 13, 1853. My G-Gf was married in Jackson Co in 1881--He went from TN to relatives there. Not sure of their relationship tho..but can bet cousins were involved if not an uncle or two!! Will have this on line as soon as can retype--my scanner notorious for not doing columns right--I have both a Brides and Grooms list and they are alpha rather than by county--also we must keep in mind this is not a complere list--I also have the list of the "burned" counties for AL and the years of the "burns." That will go out about the same time. Hey, someone made an offer of lookups and so on in a chat, I took it to heart!! Ennyone got CD-3 fom FT--would appreciate a download of all spellings of ouah bunch and sending them to me to add to the page..that is one I dont have! CD3 got SC/GA/AL as I remember--


Date: Jun 4, 1998; 14:34
J. Lee Harvell
jlee2@erols.com

This is from the Ancestral File of the LDS Mary Womack, b. c 1755 Johnston Co., NC md. David HARVILL ( Harvell) b. 1754, Brunswick Co., VA children: 1. John, b. c 1773, Brunswick, VA md. Charlotte Elliott, b. 1775?, Surry Co. NC 2. Squire, b. c1774, ?, NC md. Mary Money, b. Dec. 1790, Person Co., NC 3. Ferryby, b. c1776, Brunswick, VA md. Jesse Sisk, b. c1776, Brunswick Co. VA 4. James, b. ca 1778, Brunswick Co., VA md. unknown, b. c1782, ?SC 5. Son, b. c 1782, Brunswick, VA (I guess he has not been identified) 6. William, b. c1786, Brunswick Co., VA md. Mary Crabtree, b. c1786, ?Brunswick Co., VA md. Mary Craabtree, b.c1790, NC 7. Son, b. 1788, Surry Co. NC (I guess he has not been identified) 8. Moses, b. c1790, Surry, NC md. Levina Williams, b. c1792, ?Surry Co., NC 9. Elizabeth, b. c1792, Surry, NC md. Milanton Finch, b. 1790, ?Surry Co., NC 10. Mary, b. 1794, ?Surry Co. NC md. Reuben Johnson, b.1795, ?Surry, NC 11. Son, b. 1796, Surry, NC (I guess he has not been identified) From the WOMACK GENEALOGY, Vol.II, No.I - June 1958 Whole No.3 p.34 "Mary Harvel was the daughter of David and Mary (Womack) Harvel. David Harvel was born around 1750 in VA or NC and died in 1817 in Surry (now Yadkin) Co., NC. David Harvel and Mary Womack were married around 1771, probably in Wake Co., NC and by 1774 had settled in Surry. (David is known to have had two brothers, Isham of Wilkes Co., and James of Cumberland, now Harnett Co. A very kind soul recently furnished the above info to me & suggested that these folks might be related to my HARVELLs. My earliest known HARVELL ancestor was William Richard HARVELL(b. 1824). He & his wife were from Rutherford Co but had settled in Rowan Co in the early 1850s. He was killed at the Battle of Seven Pines in June 1862. His wife Sarah NANNEY (b. 1827) died a few months later in Jan. 1863, reportedly of 'heart-break'. Their seven kids (Joseph Parker(my line), James, Samuel Kelsy Rankin, Catherine Isabel, Susan Elmira, Martha Jane, & William Richard/or Lee) were farmed out & most were lost track of. Joseph Parker HARVELL & apparently his youngest sister, Martha Jane went to the family of William Kennerly over in Iredell Co. Can anyone possibly connect my William Richard HARVELL to the WOMACK-HARVILL/ HARVEL family? Would appreciate any help I can get in cracking this 'brick-wall'. Thanks Much! Lee Harvell Clinton, MD (301)868-6545


Date: Jun 5, 1998; 00:07
ROBERT E. MOORE
R6CTommore@aol.com

Seek marriage place and date on my Womack grandparents: Lemuel Alexander Womack b 1883 in Johnson county, Illinois m NANCY REED b Sebastian county Arkansas in 1886; they were the parents of my mother Dorothy Beatrice Womack and her brother Homer Clarence Womack; appreciate any info.


Date: Jun 5, 1998; 01:47
Webmaster
womacknet@aol.com

All: The WGN site has just been awarded the Family Tree Climbers "Uniting All Researchers" award. Thank you to everyone for making this a great site. If you get a moment, you can visit the Family Tree Climbers home page by clicking on the picture of the award on the WGN home page. -Mark


Date: Jun 5, 1998; 02:05
Webmaster
womacknet@aol.com

I was just looking at the visit counter on the home page. Is it me or has the WGN logged over 1000 visits in one month? We were just over 8000 in the middle May. And now we are over 9000! Wow! I hope everyone is finding and sharing out there! -Mark


Date: Jun 6, 1998; 01:51
Connie Baumann
littletn@aol.com

The WOMACK/WOMAC family reunion will be held in McMinn County, Tn this Sunday, June 14, 1998, at Womac Cemetery. This reunion is held every year on the second Sunday of June. All the descendants of (James) ALEXANDER Womack, born 1797, married 1. Mary Neal, and 2. Freelove Thompson. are invited to attend. Actually, ALL Womac/Wommack/ Wamack/ Womack(and any other spelling) families and descendants are invited!! This is a covered dish affair, and begins about 11am. Dinner is at 12:00. After that graves will be cleaned and decorated. Everyone is invited!!


Date: Jun 6, 1998; 08:25
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net

Now have some Alabama Marriages on line--Grooms list and Brides List, straight alpha--to go firect to brides list, use search/find feature.


Date: Jun 6, 1998; 21:34
Sue Kelley
vk1770@sheltonbbs.com

Here is my little tidbits on our Womacks: John Wesley D Womack b 28 Sep 1839 in Hardin County IL;m Julia Ann Reynolds 12 Sep 1866; D 9 Nov 1902 Reynoldsburg IL Johnson County. Parents were John Wesley Womack & Elizabeth Moss Hogan. He served with Co B 6th IL Volunteer Calvary. He is buried in Reynoldsburg Cemetery in Reynoldsburg IL. His siblings were; Elizabeth E, Amanda C, William W, John Frank, Phoebe, Austin Brown,Lemuel Alexander, Judy F, Richard A, Zora J,Mary A. Hope this helps someone. I am searching for the final burial place of my g grandmother Elizabeth E Womack Mace Frazier who I think may have died in the bootheel of Missouri. Any one who can help, I would greatly appreciate.


Date: Jun 6, 1998; 21:58
Phyllis Kimbro Cata
PCata@4state.com

I am looking for links to my Great Grandmother Maggie Madora Womack B. March 4, 1870 in Arkansas probably around Logan County possibly Franklin County around the town of Paris, Logan County, Arkansas...However, the census shows them in Reville County, Arkansas. Maggie was the daughter of John Womack B. Alabama and of either a Marg or Mary Womack from Alabama....one census rather revealed that Maggie's mother was Mattie Womack before she married John Womack. My Maggie Madora Womack Died October 5, 1945 at Eufaula, McIntosh County, Oklahoma and she is buried in the Greenwood Cemetery at Eufaula, McIntosh County, OK by her husband Franklin Joseph Stauss who was B. in Iowa but lived in Paris or the Ratcliff or Caulksville area of Logan County or Franklin Co., Arkansas....he and Maggie moved to Indian Territory when my Grandfather John Vincent Stauss B. 1889 was 11 or 12 yrs old, just at the turn of the century, they moved to the Eufaula, McIntosh County, Ok. area then Indian Territory, Franklin Joseph Stauss and his older brother Peter Wolff Stauss B. 1862 in Iowa and his wife Mary Belle (Horine) Stauss from around Magazine Mountain in Franklin and Logan Co., ARK ...Pete and Mary Belle moved to I. T. with their family of 5 children. I have very little Womack information. If anyone out there can link to me or thinks they know where I belong in this big family of Womack's please EMail me, I would appreciate finally linking up with the Womacks. t


Date: Jun 7, 1998; 15:23
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net

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Date: Jun 7, 1998; 21:32
Kay Sloan
jmsloan@gower.net

My WOMACK lineage is: 6 great-William WOMACK 5 great-Abraham WOMACK b. ca 1726 Halifax Co. NC d. May 1800 in Casewell Co. NC m.Elizabeth Stubblefield (dau of Robert & Ann) 4 great-Lucy WOMACK b. June 16, 1761 in NC m. Charlton Ingram on Nov. 2, 1778 d. Nov 1816 in KY 3 great-Marmaduke Ingram b. 1776 in NC d. Feb. 14, 1853 Trigg Co. KY m. Margaret P. McConnell 2 great-William B. Ingram b. ca 1813 in TN d. in Trigg Co. KY m. Elizabeth Howard 1 great-Charlotte T. Ingram b. 1844 Trigg Co. KY d. Apr. 1, 1880 Trigg Co. KY m. Oran Wilson Marlow Would like to locate others working on same Womack line. Thanks


Date: Jun 8, 1998; 04:29
Webmaster
womacknet@aol.com

April 1998 messages have been moved to the Message Archives. Just a few reminders: 1) Try to type your message correctly the first time (mind you this is coming from Mr. Typo himself :-) 2) If you post and don't see your message, force your browser to RELOAD the message page before reposting a 2nd time. Browesers are dumb and can't sense that the page has changed. Thanks all! -Mark


Date: Jun 8, 1998; 20:47
Cecil Wammack
tank@dixie-net.com
http://www.tank.home.dixie-net.com

Hi Ann this is cecil your cousin in Tippah Co. Mississippi I went to Ripley to get my wifes car tags for the van while i was there i looked for the marriage record of J.H Wammack and Mary E. Crenshaw in 1858 but did not find it. I did find this though! Allen Monroe Wammack the son of William Calvin Wammack and Ellen Allen. was married to a Fannie Fragier on 8/30/ 1897, 3 years before he married Carrie Lambert, Allen was only 15 so he had to have William sign the marriage affidavit, it show's that Fannie's dad signed for her also. I am going to do a little more research on this if you have any info. on this let me know, bye for now Cecil


Date: Jun 9, 1998; 00:17
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net

No names, but please do not leave family stuff on me guest page..let me know ye were theah and whut ye think...BUT..leave the family information heah on WGN fer all to see, OK?? Thankee And Mark, congrats on that second award!!


Date: Jun 10, 1998; 13:35
Robert Staley
rstaley01@sprynet.com

I am searching for the ancestors of Jesse WOMACK who was born in Georgia on Nov. 29, 1813 and who died in Texas on May 28,1880. He married Patsy EMANUEL who was born in Florida or Georgia on Oct.5, 1817 and who died on March 9,1894. They had 12 children by the names of Jack, Mary, Rebecca, Edward, Lucinda, Nancy, Elizabeth, Louis, Zeariya, Martha, Monroe, and Asa. Any help on his ancestry would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


Date: Jun 10, 1998; 21:21
Linda S. Davis
ldsed@aol.com

I need anything that connects a William Womack b? d 1827 Effingham Co,Ga to an Elizabeth ? possibly Shuman OR anything leading me to his parents, I've been told he is Abraham's brother or son, Richard's Abraham, but I've yet to be able to connect him to them. I have info that William and Elizabeth of Effingham Co, sold property in Hancock Co,Ga in 1797. I don't know if they actually lived there or just had property. Thank You for ANYTHING, I am ready to give this line up. Williams ch-Frederick,Charles, Thomas,John,William H,Nancy.


Date: Jun 11, 1998; 02:27
Webmaster
womacknet@aol.com

FYI, I have reset the Vital Records/Birth Records-Announcments web page. Several enthusiastic members had posted their own birth information. I can't fault their enthusiasm, however it is not a good idea to give away such private information on people still alive. Of course, if someone wants to steal your identity they'll probably find the information anyways. But why make it easy? A word to the wise. -Mark


Date: Jun 11, 1998; 02:30
Webmaster
womacknet@aol.com

Well, the WGN site has been honored with another award: the Genealogy is My Hobby - Excellence in Genealogy Home Page Award. Our thanks for the recognition! If you know of any other awards, and feel the WGN should be recognized, please feel free to nominate the site. Thanks to all! -Mark


Date: Jun 11, 1998; 10:58
Robert E. Womack Moore
R6CTommore@aol.com

Ref: Womack Coat of Arms. Several years ago I found the following in the LDS Church library of Los Angeles. It is found in "Miscellania Genealogica Et. Heraldica" Vol 8-- 5th Series published London, England in 1932-1934. On pages 317-320, a Womack pedigree is given, starting before 1500 with William Wamuke.. It reads: Womack of Mautby, co. Norfolk communicated by Arthur Campling, Esq. Arms.--Argent, a lion rampant gules. Crest,--A cross-crosslet. ( Borne by Laurence Womack, Bishop of St. David's 1683-85, and on memorial slabsin churches of Bradwell, Caister, Fersfield, Mautby and Winterton. I have a copy and it is beautiful. I also found it in the Pomona public library but I can't find the information on that book this morning. Robert E. Moore


Date: Jun 11, 1998; 19:17
Dan Stevenson
Dan_Stevenson@lajolla.sparta.com

JOSIAH WOMMACK was b. 22 Sep 1787 at Old Rowan Co., NC; the son of RICHARD (DICKEY) WOMMACK (b. c1760 in VA and died c1820 in Old Rowan Co., NC) and RUTH OWEN (b. 1763 at Halifax Co., VA and died 1850 at Greene or Webster Co., MO). JOSIAH married c1828 (probably Davidson Co., NC) to MARY KEPLEY (b. 20 Jan 1807 at Old Rowan Co., NC and died 20 Mar 1868 at Texas Co., MO). In about 1839 the family moved to Weakley Co., TN and in about 1852 to Illinois where JOSIAH died 13 Dec 1854. MARY packed the family up and moved to Texas Co., MO where all the children raised families. There were eleven known children: WILLIAM (b. 1829), SUSAN (b. 1831), REBECCA (b. 1833), HENRY (b. 1834), STANFORD ROBERT (1839-1909), JAMES (b. 1840), SARAH (b. 1842), PETER (b. 1844), MARY ELIZABETH (b. 1846), JOHN WILSON (b. 1848) and JOSIAH Jr. (b. 1850). Does anyone have any information to trade on this family? Dan_Stevenson@lajolla.sparta.com


Date: Jun 11, 1998; 19:34
Dan Stevenson
Dan_Stevenson@lajolla.sparta.com

HENDERSON WOMMACK was born 09 Jul 1838 at Davidson Co., NC. He married MARY ANN (POLLY) MURRELL on 24 Jul 1859 at Fair Grove, Greene Co., MO. POLLY was born 09 Aug 1838 at Davidson Co., NC and died 07 May 1872 at Greene Co., MO. HENDERSON died 04 May 1893 at Greene Co., MO. They had eight WOMMACK children at Fair Grove, Greene County, Missouri. Some cousins have told me that HENDERSON was descended from a WILLIAM WOMMACK (born in England?) who married JANE ALLEN (died about 1685 in Virginia). WILLIAM died about 1697 in Virginia. One of their children was ABRAHAM WOMMACK Sr.; who had ABRAHAM WOMMACK Jr. Among ABRAHAM WOMMACK Jr.'s children was THOMAS WOMMACK, who was born in Virginia and married SARAH OWEN in about 1747. They moved from Halifax County, Virginia to old Rowan County, North Carolina in 1784. SARAH had died by 1790. THOMAS died in about 1801. SARAH was the daughter of RICHARD OWEN and ELIZABETH NELSON OWEN of Halifax County, Virginia. Among THOMAS and SARAH's children was RICHARD ("DICKEY") WOMMACK. DICKEY was born c1760 in VA, married c1785 and died c1820-1821 in Old Rowan Co., NC. DICKEY married RUTH OWEN (b. 1763 at Halifax Co., VA and died 1850 at Greene? Co., MO). RUTH was the daughter of Col. JAMES OWEN and NANCY ANN OWEN. DICKEY and RUTH had nine known children: 1. JAMES M. (c1786-Jan 1820, married POLLY WISEMAN and stayed in NC); 2. SARAH (SALLY) WOMMACK (c1788-???, married first JOHN HODGE and stayed in NC); 3. DANIEL HENDERSON WOMMACK (1793-1867, married MARY POLLY OWEN (1795-1883) and moved to Greene Co., MO with his widowed mother); 4. EDITH WOMMACK (c1794-???, married DAVID OWEN and stayed in NC); 5. NANCY WOMMACK (c1797-???, married SAMUEL COOPER and stayed in NC); 6. JOSIAH WOMMACK (1797-1854, married MARY KEPLEY and moved to Weakley Co., TN, then IL and then Texas Co., MO; see separate query); 7. HEZEKIAH WOMMACK (1798-1878, married PEGGY OWEN, then MARY WINDOWS and then CAROLINE N. HUTCHENS; he came to Greene Co., MO also); 8. REBECCA B. WOMMACK (1804-1867, married JESSE WILSON HARTLEY and moved to Greene Co., MO); 9. AGNES WOMMACK (1804-c1866, married LOUIS GIBBONS and moved to Greene Co., MO). The family members that moved West left NC in the time period about 1839 to 1845. Does anyone have any information to trade on the HENDERSON WOMMACK (1838-1895) family? Dan_Stevenson@lajolla.sparta.com


Date: Jun 11, 1998; 20:33
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net

I have just uploaded the 1920 census (from soundex cards only) for Arkansas Womacks..This concludes my lil endeavor in putting Womack data on line...If I run across a juicy lil tidbit somewheah, I'll prob put it out there on one of the two pages I established for Womacks..However, I will make no further announcements of uploads---Its been a lot of work, it was a challenge to do-- I more or less did what I set out to do with one exception.. Challenges made are seldom taken,,,,


Date: Jun 12, 1998; 20:08
Nancy Schoonmaker
nschoonmaker@ibm.net

Our Lucinda WOMACK was born 13 May 1821. We think her parents were Charles and Capander, but have had no luck tracing them. Census citations for a Charles in 1850 in Marion Co. and 1860 in Schley Co. Any ideas? Nancy Schoonmaker


Date: Jun 13, 1998; 14:40
Daniel Ray Womack
danielrwomack@hotmail.com
www.geocities.com/heartland/park/5835

First, to Joyce Wommack, I'm sorry it's taken so long, but I can't thank you enough for all your help. To Markie and Roger, thanks for welcoming me with opne arms and generous hearts. One problem, though. I've gotten the link/image code for WGN mixed up and the image won't come up on my webpage. I think it has to do with the end (X-SAS USEImagewidth, etc.) If I could get that, I'd greatly appreciate it! As soon as I get that info from Wanda Irene Womack I'll let you know about my uncles, aunts and cousins, so you all can enter it into your lists!


Date: Jun 14, 1998; 10:42
Joyce Wommack
joylin@henge.com

Hello All. Because of some recent correspondence, I would like to bring up a controversial matter. It was stated to me by my correspondent that Carlos Womack said that the family that spelled the name with two "M's" came from Wales and were not related in the U.S. to the family with one "M". Needless to say, this upset me very much because we, as Womack researchers know better. I personally, have proven my line from Thomas (Henrico Co., VA ?>Halifax Co, VA>Rowan Co., NC) to the current generation and we spell it with 2 "M's" although Thomas (still looking for proof of his father, Abraham) and his children used one "M". Several in this branch changed the spelling as they migrated west. The reason I bring this up is because it points out the problem we have all faced at one time or another and continue to face. Before the age of technology, (aren't we lucky?) info was gathered from many, many sources, books were written, etc, etc, and much of this was passed on without any proof whatsoever, just names and dates with very little documentation. In recent years, (and sometimes in the past), we have begun to gather census, cemetery, birth, death, marriage, land, court and other records to prove our own individual lines which I believe is what we should do so that when we pass it on, it will be documentated. Now, I realize that this may take more than this generation of people to accomplish this task but if we each do that, it will eventually get done. Until then, what is passed on must be understood by the recipient that it is up to him/her to dig up that documentation if it exists if it is his/her own family. Many of us have large databases that we have gathered for many years and cannot possibly check it all out, that is why I think we should continue to gather and pass it on as info/clues only and include sources/documentation as far as possible. Sorry for this long message, but I felt it needed to be said. I would really like to hear some feedback on this. Thanks, Joyce


Date: Jun 14, 1998; 14:38
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

Joyce: Good point and I agree. Personally, I have gathered more information than I will be able to document in my lifetime. Oscar Womack, in the Womack Genealogy Newsletters from the 50's, said we should be able to prove our lineage as in a court of law (paraphrased). In many of his responses to people he would make statements to the effect, "Send verification;" "Your lineage is not complete until you can support and verify each statement." It's a wonderful idea, and I agree, it would be wonderful to have documentation on all the info we receive. However, just as important, are those who do not have the documentation. We want everyones participation at WGN. Family Tradition is good, as Joyce said, just let us know. Most importantly, participate. I would rather have 10 wrong names than no names. At least it's a place to start.


Date: Jun 14, 1998; 17:38
Carolyn Powell
powell@blueridge.net

Joyce: I agree with you completely. PLEASE DOCUMENT. I do not fully agree with Roger. I would rather not have all of the misinformation as it tends to muddle the actual facts. I honestly believe that there are researchers that want to get "quick family trees" and do not care whether it is documented or not. It is a waste of time, because in future generations, if it is not documented, it is going to be thrown out anyway. In some respects, this is already true. To become a member of DAR, the family histories are not always accepted for documentation. The DAR realizes that a lot is heresay, legend, myth, etc. They want proof and we should, as researchers, demand proof, too.


Date: Jun 14, 1998; 18:01
Ann McDonald
71210.2533@compuserve.com

Re: Carlos Womack's book "Descendants of William Womack and Mary Jane Allen." Let me put this right out here. I have a copy of this book - the last copy of the last version. It's actually 7 4-ring binders of stuff. Carl is my 3rd cousin twice removed - as in of my granddaddy's generation. In this book, he does NOT say that the Wommack were Welsh and not related. In fact, he's got notes in there of approximately when lines got their names changed. When I give people information from this book, I state that it is from this book and that as with all published genealogies, you should check it out yourselves. Let me put it this way, Carl and I connect up our lines at Kinchen Womack Sr. None of us, though we have searched mightily, know Kinchen Womack's wife's maiden name. Her name was Mary Agnes - her surname has eluded people for years. There is stuff in Carl's book that we agree to disagree on. There is stuff in Carl's book that I have updated and sent him the updates on. It is not the holy grail of genealogies. It's there, it's a useful tool, it's source notes are better than many but not the best. I reiterate my advice - it's a published genealogy, as with ALL published genealogies, you should check the data yourself. Ann


Date: Jun 14, 1998; 19:59
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

Have I been Misunderstood, or do I misunderstand? I did not know the WGN message should be likened to DAR, which should be proven before posted. From time to time I get emails and correspondences from people who are not sure about their family history. The only information that they have is from family tradition. I encourage them to post that information on WGN so perhaps one of us will have the proof they need or the correct information. If the information is not posted no one can do anything. My hope is that we don't become like some "bless my little church group" with a sign out front that reads, "NO SINNER'S ALLOWED." The letter of the Law will keep people from participating.


Date: Jun 14, 1998; 21:42
Joyce Wommack
joylin@henge.com

Whew! I didn't mean to start all this fuss. Let me qualify what I evidently did not make very clear earlier. The person I received the e-mail from told me they were told the above by telephone a few weeks ago and it sounded to me like they were ready to accept it as fact. Of course, I was not in on this telephone conversation so have know way of knowing if there was a misunderstanding or not. I too have Carlos' work and have never seen any such thing in it, have also talked to him and he has never said anything such thing, in fact, his work belies the statement. It was the pure acceptance (whether misunderstood or whatever) that I objected to. Yes, we do need to share what we have, but as I said before, the receipient of the data needs to be aware that much of it is not documented and if they are working on their own personal family, they should do their own checking. The rest of us cannot possibly do it all for them nor should we be expected to. Sometimes, there simply isn't a written record for a particular person we are looking for. I myself, am accepting family tradition in an important area where I have been unable to find records. No, we should never get to the point where we are like the DAR, we should keep it friendly and share, share, share, keeping in mind that much of it is undocumented. Again, I am sorry my message has caused some hostility, that was not my intention. I thought it would be a good subject for discussion.


Date: Jun 15, 1998; 03:12
Webmaster
womacknet@aol.com

Everyone: First, I just want to make one thing clear to those of you joining us late in this recent discussion: You do not have to have your family line proven to share what you know or guess on this message page. If that was the starting point for genealogical discourse, we wouldn't get beyond our grandparents. The WGN Message Page is an open forum for research. I know everyone knows this, I just want to make it extra clear with no confusion. Second, I think that an important point has been made about accepting any published genealogy information at face value. If one truly cares, then one should prove the information to themselves by collecting and proving the info they find in these sources, Carlos Womack's work is no exception to this. I've found more than one mistake in simple indices of data. Not everyone has the time or inclination to do this, but hey, genealogy is a life long hobby. Third, when publishing or communicating about ones family line, it is a good idea to indicate which parts are proven (and how) and which parts are educated guesses (and why). My only complaint about Carlos' book is that it doesn't always have enough references to records and in which counties so that one can followup efficiently. But then if it did, it would probably be 100 notebooks long (and growing) and never be published. Everything is a tool. This message page, Carlos' book, the census, everything. This has been a good discussion on this topic. It would probably make an even better feature article. Any takers? Thanks, -Mark


Date: Jun 15, 1998; 08:47
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net

Nice lil ole diskusshun on the relative merits of documents and heresay. Agreed, documentation is necessary; but sometimes all we have or are going to get is heresay. Who is gonna tell ye granny was a liar when she told you all that stuff, names , dates, places that aint in no family bible, there were no birth records then since most states sis not start mandatory birth records til, ah thank, 1914 or thereabouts..and even then not all births, nor deaths, were recorded as well as marriages..and even if in a family bible, what makes that more plausible than heresay..it is merely what someone wrote down on a piece of paper--but is the only tanglible bit of info you may have.. Secondly, on this DAR thang, it is an overrated, outdated organization that because of infighting, unreasonable demands for documentation, that not even the originall founders could meet the standards today--many of us are not interested in the so called "prestige" attached to some quasi-patriotic organizations..merely to find and establish our roots.. And whether it takes 10 wrong pieces of info to find one good one, then so be it! Like one of you sed, rather have 10 wrongs to work with rather than no rights! Cause when ye done wif them 10 ye have probably picked up a couple good leads sumwheah jest fer tryin..leads ye wudnt have had otherwise! So, those of ye that wanna be prestigious, so be it! Those of us who couldl care less, so be it! BUT..no reason why we cannot all work together and help one another, IS THERE??


Date: Jun 15, 1998; 21:40
Cecil Wammack
tank@dixie-net.com
http://www.tank.home.dixie-net.com

Hello all I just come a cross a book called History and Families of Tishomingo County Mississippi this is just a few lines for the book. The Womack's were in England in the 1100's The name means literally," Holly Oak" Bishop Lawrence Womack was buried in St. Margaret's Church, Westminster. in 1685 on one of the pillars in that church, there was placed a beautiful tablet in his memory, which shows the Womack coat-of-arms that dates back to 1192 PS: this is part of the Family of Thomas Womack born Abt.1664


Date: Jun 15, 1998; 22:55
Paula Womack Berube
pwb@hargray.com

I know I have Aunts and Uncles in Maryland, possibly in the Baltimore, Frostburg area. There names are Lloyd, Ernest, David, Oscar (who moved to Florida),all Womacks and Juanita Womack Marsh, possibly a sister named Mildred who moved to Florida. Their parents were Oscar Womack, possibly Oscar David, and Katie Belle Ezell. My father is Paul Leon Womack. He resides in North Carolina. Am looking for information on these aunts and uncles, plus children of same. Would like to find out information on my grandparents.


Date: Jun 16, 1998; 00:05
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net

Cecil, there is NO repeat NO specific Womack Coat of arms assosicated with the Immigrant William as of yet..Bishop Lawrence's only known male heir was a nephew..also, to be in line for any coat of arms, you have to be a direct descendant of the person granted..i.e. as I explained earlier..two brothers, one granted a coat, the other none..only direct descendants of the one granted may lay claim and "bear" that coat of arms..Bishop Lawrence had two poss three wives, one daughter is only child known..the dude in england wants 65 bucks to look and see if any othah than Lawrence had one and for the name--when I get the 65 bucks will send and let them look it up, this is the College of Arms,or whatevah they call it, official, in the UK...in othah words, they aint no official coat fer ole Will yet!!


Date: Jun 16, 1998; 03:39
Webmaster
womacknet@aol.com

Maybe we should start a 'Coat of Arms' fund to help offset the $65 research fee. Is this guy over in England legit? -Mark


Date: Jun 16, 1998; 13:15
Alton W. Womack
roo@mccoy.as.udayton.edu

Hello all. Based on current discussion I would like to ask assistance in a discrepency between Carl's book and another book called "Some Descendants of William Womack, The Immigrant, by Martha McDaniel Thompson from Redding Ca. Carlos has the following information: #1 William & Mary Jane (Allen) Womack, #6 John & Mary (Akin)Womack, #21 Abraham (youngest) & Mary Somebody, #73 Abraham II & wife unknown, #199 Abraham III & Ann Somebody Womack, #377 Abraham IV & Judith (Minter) Womack, #824 William & Mary Ann "Polly" (Hunt) Womack, #2135 Nathaniel Green & Elizabeth (Ryals, #4941 George. This ends the line in the book I have by Carlos. I believe that George here could be George Washington Womack who married Frances Carolina (Hunter). One of their five children was Andrew Jackson Womack who married Mary Jane (Skelton) Womack who had 16 children one of whom was Elmer Andrew Womack who Married Ruth (Cummings) who had one child Andrew Alton Womack who was my Father. I am very confident on the information from Andrew Jackson on down but the book by Martha Thompson has a different line to William; 1. William & Mary Jane, 2. Abraham I & ?Sarah Summerscales, 3. Abraham II wife unknown, Abraham III wife unknown (?Tabitha Hudson), Abraham IV & Ann Somebody, Abraham V & Judith Minter, William & Margeret Ellis with ch: Mark Sanders, Green William, Dignychin, Abraham Minter & Mary Ann. She then indicates that Mark Sanders Womack m Elizabeth H. Avent and had a son G.W. Womack who married Francis Caroline Hunter in 1938 but later lists Green William Womack as Father to George Washington Womack married to Frances Caroline "Frank" Hunter parents of Andrew Jackson Womack who married Mary Jane "Mollie" Shelton but only lists two children. The questions I have are: Does anyone have a "feel" for the accurate line to William? Does anyone have information as to George Washington Womack's Father (Mark Sanders, Green William or Nathaniel Green)? I know this is long and I don't want you to think I am a lazy genealogist but I know several out there have been at this much longer than I and would appreciate help on this. I have much of the documentation available but it appears that the links of which Abraham belongs to whom is subject to question.


Date: Jun 16, 1998; 13:40
Carolyn Powell
powell@blueridge.net

Well, I guess I have been put in my place. When I brought up DAR it was merely to point up the fact that you don't get by with myth, grandma's memory, etc. I most certainly agree that WGN should not be the same as DAR and did not mean for it to be taken that way; however, I still feel that we are too free handing out our complete family trees that are not fully documented. At least tell where you received the information. It is very frustrating to keep receiving the same stuff over and over without anything to back it up. I did not mean to offend anyone and have always been happy to share what information I have regarding Womacks or any other families I have been working on. The slur against DAR is not fair to that organization. Not everyone wants to be in it for the "prestige." I liked having a goal to work towards when I first started researching my first family. It taught me a lot about where to find information and how to document. Truce? The next time I will keep my "mouth shut!"


Date: Jun 16, 1998; 19:19
Webmaster
womacknet@aol.com

Carolyn, please don't feel like you should 'keep your mouth shut'. This is an open discussion. I don't know much about the DAR (Daughters of the American Revolution, for the uninitiated), but I think that Sam's assessment was a bit harsh and he is just speaking his opinion. Using their standards for a level of genealogical proof is an excellent idea. Even back in 1957, the DAR guidelines were mentioned numerous times in the Womack Genealogy Newsletters to give people an idea of what was 'acceptable' proof. And if everyone can reach that level of proof, that is great. But we all know that genealogy research is ongoing and the amount of proof one has for each part of their family tree certainly varies. You have a very good point about information being passed around, some of it incorrect or unproven. I think we should do this: Create a set of online family group sheets for the first 8 or 10 Womack generations starting with William, the Immigrant. The starting point would be Carlos' research, but maybe we could all augment it with specific references to records that prove the various lines. We could get very detailed. I mean, this site is dedicated to Womacks, but I just recently realized we have little to no info about William, the Immigrant on the site. Duh! This would be an open project with the pages hosted from the WGN site. Everyone will be invited to provide information from their area of expertise within the family tree, since I doubt one person knows all the details. What do you guys think? Is 10 generations too much? How about if we build the tree a generation at a time, giving everyone a chance to comment and work out details/controversies? -Mark


Date: Jun 16, 1998; 20:46
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net

(1.) Mark, the guy in the UK works in the College of Heraldry or what ever they call the official place where they are all recorded and approved. I brought up the subject will take care of the situation when time comes........................................ (2). Carolyn, apologies! didnt mean to point to ye specifically. BUT, some info on me mums line came straight from her mum and it is the only avaliable info on that family anywhere--and fer a 88 yeah old (at the time) woman to have a mind like that, will take the info without of grain of salt--she died at almost 97 in 1991, and evah thang she told me has been proven about 99 44/100% accurate so far--that I have found so far in paper documents.. (3). IF we are to use a straight papertrail as proof and documentation, it will never hold...I have marriage certs back to my GG-grandparents, photos, etc, a couple of bible records..but I was only told these were related to me..I was not named in these documents, therefore, what proof is this that the Sam Womack who is writing this is related to those people? I guess the old adage about not believing anythang ye heah and only half of whut ye see would apply well in genealogy?? Ennyhoo, lets not let this be a bickering point and lets press on towards as much truth as we can find, not matter where or how we find it, OK?


Date: Jun 16, 1998; 22:51
Carolyn Powell
powell@blueridge.net

Mark: Thank you for your response to my message. As I have explained to a few people tonight, I think I need a "Womack Vacation!" If you don't hear from me for a time, don't worry, I'll be back. I have obtained a lot of excellent information from WGN and appreciate every bit of it. Maybe when I get back, my lineage will be figured out for me!!


Date: Jun 16, 1998; 23:02
Cecil Wammack
tank@dixie-net.com
http://www.tank.home.dixie-net.com

Carolyn I know how you feel I am having a hard time typing as you can see I think i will keep my mouth shut to------Sam in the article i wrote, I do not lay claim to no coat-of-arms for William the Immigate I found this little tidbit of info. and thought that the new comers "like me" would find this interesting. I guess the phrase Roger used "no sinner's allowed" or carolyn"s "dar" takes in account for this. To all WGN's remember this the coat-of-arms or what ever it may be, is like your daddy watch just because your dad dies and his watch is given to your brother that does not mean he is not your dad to PS:it is not nice to shout!


Date: Jun 17, 1998; 00:46
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net

Point taken by all including me..fergit paper, fergit ennythang but finding bones.if y'all need a break and if ye were or are offended by whut I sed, ah apologize..ah jes have no truck wif no organization when it tries to set standards fer me family and whut ah kin use or say that sez they be family!! papah proves not a dang thang! someone writ it, wuz they correct?? see the point? Now, use the family legends or heresay, use the papah when ye find it..but dont let a piece of papah..mess yer whole innards up and let ye lose a family membah cause it aint theah.ah am trying to make a point heah..papah aint 100%..thankee and that nuff on this stuff me thinks!!


Date: Jun 17, 1998; 01:54
Vickie Allen
vjallen@flash.net

[Posted by Webmaster] MY NAME IS VICKIE ALLEN. I'M NEW AT THIS RESEARCHING OF MY FAMILY TREE. MAYBE SOMEONE OUT THERE MIGHT HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT I CAN USE. MY GRANDFATHER JOHN R. WOMACK WAS BORN JUNE 6, 1889 AND DIED JUNE 15, 1960. HE MARRIED HALLIE FERN THORNTON AND THEY HAD 9 CHILDREN. WILLIAM VICTOR B.D. 4-5-1918, JOE B. BORN 3-3-1925, JONNIE G. BORN 11-12-1922, KATHERINE I. BORN 5-28-1922, MOLLY R. BORN 8-11-1930, ALVA L. 8-21-1926, JAMES P. BORN 11-18-1920, JOHN D. BORN 1-31-1929, J. CYLENE BORN 12-12-1935. JOHN R HAD A BROTHER CHARLES FROM LAMBERT, MISS. BORN 6-5-1885 AND SISTERS MAUD CLAUSSEN BORN12-13-1892, ALVA REED BOTH FROM LAMBERT. ANY INFOR WOULD BE APPRECIATED. THANKS VICKIE ALLEN VJALLEN@FLASH.NET


Date: Jun 17, 1998; 07:03
CHARLES SHERRER
ISCES@EMORY.EDU

I, TOO, WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE OR MORE COATS OF ARMS THAT HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO THE WOMACK SURNAME. ------------------------------- TO WHOM DO I SEND MY SHARE OF THE COST?


Date: Jun 17, 1998; 11:11
Roger Womack
MLWomack@aol.com

In responce to Vickie Allen: June 16th message, John R. Womack is the son of William M. Womack b March 29, 1859 sp Mollie Logan son of Charles W, sp Elizabeth Hale, son of Michael (The pioneer Arkansas who named Nashville Arkansas) Virginia Buxton compiled alot on Michaels line back in the fifties. William Victor. William Victor, (son of John R ). was lost at sea, a member of the 113th Naval Construction Battallion Asiatic Area, December 14, 1944.


Date: Jun 18, 1998; 01:07
Markie Owen
mowen@linknet.net
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1118/

Hi All... ...thought I'd check in tonight, lots of msg. here since the other day, so I thought I would throw in my two cents, or my hat into the ring. Why I started my genealogy 30 years ago....In the beginning all I wanted to find was my Indian ancestors that my Grandpa Womack had "told" me about when I was a little chile. After that, we just wanted to join the "UDC"....(United Daughters of the Confederecy) (since I'm from the south)... Ok... found all of that... then came the DAR.... found all of that....Now after all these years, there isn't hardly any of these organizations that I can't join in the US of A....but, I never took the time involved to join any of them. I admire the ones who do work so hard in them. Somehow tho, after I knew I could, they didn't seem important anymore. But in defence of them, they are wonderful places to have your documented family tree that will be there "forever" I reckon, for everyone who follows us through this thing called life. I believe in both the documented "and" family stories. Like Sam... most of my family stories have proven to be about 99 44/100% pure! When you come across a cousin from CA. who hasn't been back to LA. for 40 years, and they have heard the "exact" same stories you have heard.... you can bet your bottom dollar it's soooo true! IMHO I think we document what we can, and use the rest for clues during our research. Ann, Carlos' book "does" have some mistakes in it....."I'M" in it .. But, I agree with you, "It's there, it's a useful tool, it's source notes are better than many but not the best." It truly is a life time labor of love. It's been several years back since I talked with him on the phone. I saw a copy of his book through the Family History Center here, it was microfilmed in 1986. I also saw a computer print out of it in the library at Greensburg, La. It seemed like it was about 15 or 20 three ring notebooks. There was a bunch of them anyway. So here I am now, and going through DAVID WOMACK who married MILDRED PRYOR, we have all the kings and queens of Europe we can handle.....and all .I want is PAPER PROOF of one little American Indian!!!! Cause my Grandpa "said so"!!! :)


Date: Jun 18, 1998; 01:54
VICKIE ALLEN
VJALLEN@FLASH.NET

JOHN R. WOMACK FAMILY TREE - A BIG THANK YOU TO ROGER. YOU HAVE GIVEN ME INFOR ABOUT MY MOTHERS FAMILY TREE THAT SHE DIDN'T KNOW. MY MOTHER, MOLLY ROBERTA WOMACK, DID NOT NOT KNOW HER GRANDPARENTS NAME. THANK YOU. VICKIE


Date: Jun 18, 1998; 02:32
Mark Womack
markwomack@aol.com

Getting back to family research, I have talked to many of you in the past about my family tree and my ongoing attempt to link my lost branch to the family tree of William Womack, The Immigrant. I, and some fellow cousins, have been able to prove the family line back to my gggg-grandparents, William Womack & Rebecca . They lived in Halifax Co, VA at least by 1800, but probably as early as the 1780's. I have been trying to 'swipe' one of the William's mentioned in Carlos' mighty tome that seemed to match. The William that was the son of Thomas Womack (the one that moved to NC around 1780) seemed like a good candidate. But alas, there is little or no data to support such a theory. But recently, I figured out that my William had a lot of connections withe the HUDSON's of Halifax Co. And there is an Abraham Womack m Tabitha Hudson in 1785 in Halifax Co that is most likely William's brother. So, I am asking for all of your help once again to try and figure out who the Abraham's in early Halifax Co might be. There is the one in 1785 I just mentioned. There is also an earlier Abraham that might be their father. 17 Nov 1768 Daniel Hudson of Charlotte Co sold 480 acres of land along Beavers Creek to an Abraham Womack. Daniel Hudson's wife was named Tabitha. It appears that Abraham sells this plot of land ("being the land whereon the said Womack now lives") to a John Coleman in 1779. Don't know if he moved on or stuck around. It is possible that my Abraham and William moved into the county just as he moved away. If anyone has any ideas about these Womack's or Hudson's, let me know. I appreciate all your ehlp and advice. And the search continues! -Mark


Date: Jun 18, 1998; 08:37
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net

Vickie It appears that if your John R is in Michaels line that the following applies: William and Mary Jane Allen Womack- Richard and Mary Puckett Womack Richard and Elizabeth Ann Puckett Womack Alexander and Martha ? Womack Sr David and Elizabeth ? Womack Michael and Sarah Jones Womack Charles W and Elizabeth Hale Womack and Roger gave ye the rest methinks David above was a brother to Alexander Womack Jr who was my 5th great grandaddy.


Date: Jun 20, 1998; 01:12
Darrel & Judy Womack
DARRELCAM@worldnet.att.net

I'm new to this so please be patience. I hve been working on my husbands line which is ; Rchd lll, David Sr, Rchd, Abner P b 1806 GA, d 1893 Morgan TX, Abner Carroll b 1835 MS, d 1910 Morgan TX, Mark Blaine b1884 Morgan TX, d 1962 Seattle WA, Earl Lewis b 1910 Plattsburg NY, d 1982 Grand Coulee WA, Darrel Lee b 1934 Seattle Wa, m 1960 Judith Arthur , three children Edith, Margret, Mark. Need help with some proof from David to Abner P, for SAR, any help, out there. My husband and I were in the LA Ms and NC this last May, didn't find much.. Have pictures of Head stones in Mendellhall Ms, of Rchd & Dicey Jane Womack, there line. Also pictures of the Womack/White cem. in Bosque Co TX. We love to take pictures of History, to put with the story. Thanks Judy


Date: Jun 21, 1998; 00:29
Walter Elliott
wellott@webtv.net

[posted by webmaster] I have done some research on my ancestry. My grandmother was Victoria Womack Elliott. Her father was William Womack who fought at Gettysburg. He was there with 2 brothers, Anderson and John. John was killed the first day. July 1 fighting under Heth. These 3 brothers and 2 sisters were the offspring of Gazaway Womack, born 1908. I have a family tree of Gazaway's family written around 1948. I would like to update it.


Date: Jun 21, 1998; 02:15
Webmaster
womacknet@aol.com

Site update is now complete. We now have over 180 researchers listed, 14 success stories, and various updated links. Enjoy! -Mark


Date: Jun 21, 1998; 02:43
Jan Womack
womack@mcmail.com

[posted by webmaster] I've been researching my husband's family in yorkshire england for 15 years. I have discovered the origins of the name womack and lots of other interesting information. anyone interested?


Date: Jun 21, 1998; 09:24
Pat Wommack Jones
pjones@awanet.com

I am searching for the parents of William Wommack b 1801 N. Car. m Elizabeth Sheppard 1824, Moore Co. N. Car. There were two William Wommack's that married Sheppard sisters, one m Nancy, the other one m Elizabeth. John Sheppard or Andrew Sheppard,(s/o John) may have been there father. Any one working on this line, please email me. Thanks for all of your help. Mark, a great job, thanks for including me. PJ


Date: Jun 21, 1998; 19:57
Farris Wade Womack
fww@umich.edu

William Harrison Womack, Sr. was born in 1840, probably in GA, joined the Confederate Army in 1862, fought with Co. I.,3rd Regiment, Georgia Cavalry in the War Between the States, lived in AL until 1878-79, moved to AR, homesteaded land, raised his family, died in about 1912-14 and buried at Mt. Zion Cemetery, Cleburne Co., AR. Ten children, eight of whom lived to be adults. William Harison Womack, Jr. moved to TX and died in tarrant Co.,TX. I am looking for cousins and ancestors.


Date: Jun 21, 1998; 21:22
Mary W. Glenn
mwg914@aol.com

In my continuing saga for Wm. R. Womack born 1807 NC, I found a site for searchable Civil War Cemeteries. I looked for WRW's brother, Levi B. Womack on the off chance that the story about WRW's son, Francis Marion, being in TN with a relative who died. Sure enough, he was listed as being buried in the Chattanooga National Cemetery Section L Grave 9105 as a Private from MO. One baby step at a time. Eventually, I hope to locate these boys parents.


Date: Jun 22, 1998; 02:06
Markie Owen
mowen@linknet.net
http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/6277/index.html

I wanted to tell everyone that I have uploaded "Martha McDaniel Thompson's" (of Redding, California) manuscript to my web page. I just copied and pasted it, so it is not formatted for the web. It will take me a long time to get it "just right", so for now, it's just up there. (laughing) I broke it up into pages hoping that would make it easier to read/decifer who is who. I placed it there for "research" purposes only. I "have no idea" if everything is correct and documented. I placed the link on the same page as Jessie Womack Moorhead's manuscript. Just scroll down the page some to check it out. Both manuscripts are located at the address above. You're just a click away!!!...... I hope it helps someone with some clues as to where to research next. "Old Genealogists never die... they just loose their census" heehee..... Markie


Date: Jun 22, 1998; 06:58
Irvin Padgett
ipadgett@erols.com

Several years ago, my wife's Butler family cousins traced their ancestors back to Samuel Butler, who married Mary Womack, daughter of William Womack, abt 1773, in Halifax County, NC. Will Book II of Halifax County, NC, shows William Womack's will, dated 18 February 1774. It lists his children as Thomas, John, Frederick, James, Brittain, Mary (wife of Samuel Butler), and Martha. This William Womack, his family, and Mary Womack's marriage to Samuel Butler are shown in the book "The Descendants of William and Mary Jane Womack", by Carlos Womack. Carlos Womack's book also shows this William Womack to be the son of John Womack and Mary Akin, with John being the son of William Womack (the Immigrant) and Mary Jane Allen. Other than Carols Womack's book, does anyone have any additional source that shows John Womack and Mary Akin having a son, William (who made the Halifax County, NC, will in 1774)? Thanks!


Date: Jun 23, 1998; 13:40
Webmaster
womacknet@aol.com
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/980623/at_t_1.html

Very interesting article at the above link: "Use of Internet to Trace Family Roots is Soaring, AT&T Survey Reveals - Nearly One-Third of Survey Respondents Have Used the Web For Genealogical Pursuits; 98% Want to Learn How - BASKING RIDGE, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 23, 1998-- According to an AT&T survey conducted to discover how people use the Internet, nearly one-third said they have used the Web for genealogical purposes. Beginning today, an AT&T Genealogy Page will be featured on the AT&T WorldNet(R) Service Web site (www.att.net/find/genealogy). ..."


Date: Jun 23, 1998; 16:48
Jeanie Hill
hillj@brightok.net
http://www.cjnetworks.net/~fruendt/hill.htm

I think my Womack's must be related to Vicky Allen's Womack since they all are traced back to Nashville, AR! I sure wish I could figure out how to tie them all together? If anyone out there can tell me how please get in touch with me. My Berton Lee Womack was born in Nashville, AR on Oct. 23,1903 to a John Franklin and Rhoda Asque Womack. I just can't seem to get back any farther than that! Vicky if you have any information on my Womack's would you please get in touch with me!!!!! Thanks again to Mark and Sam for all of their help. Jeanie Seabolt Hill


Date: Jun 24, 1998; 09:26
Dixie Sharp
dsharp@clandjop.com

This is a great site!!! I am trying to find information on my ggggrandfather, Levi Womack, born in TN (no date) married Polly Ann Baker, born in IL, on 11 Nov. 1834 in Shelby Co., IL. They had two children in IL., Elizabeth Rose, b 1836, and Joseph William (my gggrandfather), b 22 Feb, 1838 in Effingham, IL. They moved to MO. where the other 5 children were born: Benjamin, May 1841; James, 1842; Hester Ann, 27 Aug 1843; John, 1846; and Levi, 1848. From an article in the local newspaper several years ago, Joseph and Benjamin are buried side by side in the Saratoga Springs Cemetery in McDonald Co., Mo., but during the civil war they fought on opposite sides. Any help would be appreciated and I would be willing to share what I have on the Womack family with anyone who is interested.


Date: Jun 24, 1998; 10:46
Pat Wommack Jones
pjones@awanet.com

Hello All: Has anyone indexed the surnames of the book, "THE DESCENDANTS OF THOMAS AND LOUVISA RICE WOMACK'? If so, could I have a copy. Thanks. PJ


Date: Jun 24, 1998; 22:36
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net

In the next 30 days or so, will be changing main server, the pages you access thru heah and thru yer bookmarks will remain unless they have an AOL extension.. will post new URL when done change made and when transfer done..setting up with phone company all biling done on phone bill and etc, If I can brand AOL to the new server, no changes will be made then.. other than the E mail.


Date: Jun 25, 1998; 15:36
jan Womack
womack@mcmail.com

Thanks for all your E.mails. Haven't got time to reply to all individual requests just now (end of term etc)I am preparing a feature with all of my info regarding the origin of the Womack family in England. Hopefully it will be ready within the week.


Date: Jun 25, 1998; 22:47
Sam
none

Barbara, On the Scott Powell/Mary Isabella Womack marriage..me thinks Mary wuz me GGG-GF sistah, in fact, sans papah, ah know dang well she wuz.. thankee


Date: Jun 26, 1998; 16:00
Susan Houston
houstonl@usit.net
http://www.public.usit.net/houstonl/index.html

I am looking for the parents of Thomas Henry (Benton) Wamack who was born in 1842 in AL according to the census and in KY according to his death certificate. He married Ludemia Jane Gullion in Virginia. Please help!! Thank you Susan Houston


Date: Jun 26, 1998; 23:55
Jan Womack
m014t101@mcmail.com

[posted by webmaster (you may want to also email womack@mcmail.com)] I have had some E.mails from other Womacks, which pleased me greatly but have lost the messages through my computer inexperience and so please could you put this message on the message page and say I will try to do better next time! I am interested on any information on William Womack the immigrant and would like to know if any one has any DEFINITE info as to where he came from as there were several William Womacks born in various English counties between 1600 and 1610. -Jan


Date: Jun 27, 1998; 14:23
sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net
http://members.tripod.com/~dubbie/womac/sam.html

y'all might wanna reset yer bookmarks to the above URL as mine be changin shawtly...it wurks fairly well but got some work to dew yet..either will work until porb about Jul 26th or so..aaftah that.. who knows??


Date: Jun 27, 1998; 21:25
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net
http://members.tripod.com/~dubbie/womac/sam.html

Wayell y'all jest today received a special recognition award kin look at it at the above URL if'n ye want to..


Date: Jun 28, 1998; 00:46
Webmaster
womacknet@aol.com
http://www.womacknet.com/message/archive/05.1998.html

May 1998 messages have been moved to the message archive. The above link will get to there. Thanks, -Mark


Date: Jun 28, 1998; 01:34
Sam
samsawadee@worldnet.att.net
http://members.tripod.com/~dubbie/womac/sam.html

Wayell, wayell! Wondahs nevah cease!! Got anothah of them thangs for Sam's Place. That make 2 today!! Thankee one and all fer lookin!!


Date: Jun 28, 1998; 17:53
Miles Womack
mylzw@worldnet.att.net

Update concerning Robert Staley's message in search for his Womack connection. Tracking the family tradition he provided on Jesse Womack and wife Martha (Emanuel), Martha was found on page 86 of the Travis Co. Texas US Census. There about her were other members of her family. Household 169: Charles Tharpe, age 25 and Wife Zenna [Womack] Tharpe age 28, Jesse E.age 7, Ruth A. age 5, Adeline age 2,John M. age 2/12. Household 170: Martha Womack, age 62, Nancy Womack age 35, Monroe Womack age 23, Elizabeth [Womack]Killen age 31, Earcer Killen age 10. Houshold: Owen Jones age 36, Lusinda [Womack] Jones age 36, Ida age 7, Jessie age 5, Virgina age 1. Household 173: James Killen age 35, Mary [Womack} Killen age 41, Ellen age 11, Annie age 8, John age 4, Harrie age 3, Martha age 1. Household 174 John Pennington age 35, M. A. [Martha Womack] Pennington age 24, E.W. age 5, Ace age 4, Ira age 1. Unconnected to this census, other information has recently been discovered about other children of Jesse Womack and Martha (Emanuel) Womack. Updaet on the other children: John Womack seems to have died in the war. Edward Womack was found in the 1870 US Census of Winn Parish, La. He is married and has one son. Rebecca Womack married Soloman Teddlie and had two children. I have chosen to submit this new find with the hopes that these new Sirnames might help tie together others who have Womack ancestry. If you connect to any of these links, you are a descendant of David Womack of Gadsden County Florida who died in that county ca. 1831-36. [7Jesse,6David,5Abraham,4Richard III,3Richard II,2Richard I,1William, The immigrant}


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